Ali Hammuda, an Imam at a Cardiff mosque, seems intent on maintaining a position as one of the most hateful and extreme voices in the West when it comes to Islamic values. Hammuda first attracted international attention when three young men from his mosque who became extremists in ISIS in Syria. He is now back in the news after a secret recording shows him telling his followers that it is permissible and moral under the teachings of Mohammed to have sex slaves.
Hammuda influenced the three ‘Cardiff jihadis’ – Nasser Muthana and Reyaad Khan, then 20, and Muthana’s younger brother Aseel, then 17 – who became terrorists with ISIS in Syria. He is shown in the latest recording telling teenage Muslims that they can morally force women to be sex slaves under the teachings of the Koran (Quran). The recording from the Al-Manar mosque by an undercover reporter shows Hammuda, who (despite his extremist past) the English Islamic Programmes officer at the mosque, explains the Hadiths, or sayings of Mohammed.
Hammuda is recorded as saying:
“One of the interpretations as to what this means is that towards the end of time there will be many wars like what we are seeing today, and because of these wars women will be taken as captives, as slaves, yeah, women will be taken as slaves. . . . And then, er, her master has relations with her because this is permissible in Islam, it’s permissible to have relations with a woman who is your slave or your wife.”
He then explains how mothers also become little more than slaves under the teachings of Mohammed: “The one I think is strongest is that towards the end of time you will see a lot of Muslims disobeying their mothers and fathers . . . you see children speaking to their mothers and fathers as if they are your slave.”
Thousands of female captives, particularly Yazidi women and girls, have been enslaved and sold at auctions to ISIS terrorists. Their rape and slavery has been found to be moral acts by the clerics supporting the Islamic State.
While rape and slavery is perfectly moral under the teachings of Mohammad, Hammuda is disgusted . . . by music. Music turns out to be the “tool of Satan” so when you are raping your Yazidi sex slave, you should not listen to music. He also says that it is forbidden to engage in the “free mixing” with women . . . unless of course you are raping them as an Islamic right.
What is really frightening is that, until 2013, Hammuda was allowed to hold lunchtime sessions at Cathays High School in Cardiff. Many Muslims have condemned Hammuda and his hateful, disgusting teachings. After the release of the tape, Hammuda insisted that he has always condemned the “so-called Islamic State” and “this evil phenomena.” He insisted that “The undercover recording and quotations referred to seem to have been deliberately taken out of context to portray a religious perspective that I do not ascribe to.”
While context is often important, it is hard to see the different meaning to explaining how the writings of Mohammad state “And then, er, her master has relations with her because this is permissible in Islam, it’s permissible to have relations with a woman who is your slave or your wife.”
What is troubling is that people like Hammuda indoctrinate young people that they can forgo the basic human values in the name of Islam and commit war crimes while claiming to be moral Muslims.
Thank you all for contributing your obviously heart felt, viscerally articulate arguments. It’s apparent you care or you wouldn’t say anything.
My life is a major s-storm right now and the current political quandary we are in doesn’t help, being the political crack user I am.
Some thoughts. . .
This whole election to me boils down to: You can’t argue with someone who has nothing to loose.
If the federal government is so entrenched with its supporting incestuous cast of characters then the institution itself will function regardless of its navigators, IE, the military will remain independent of the politicians, the Fed will do so as well, then why not give a rat’s a%$ about the administrators at the top?
I’ve come to the conclusion that it’s ok to vote for whomever one chooses because the system needs a correction, not its leaders.The leaders just adapt to serving the system regardless of their own contribution to its existence.
Thanks again for caring so much to articulate your thoughts.
And everyone denounces Trump for wanting more info,on people entering our country. If we don’t fix our immigrant vetting process before followers of this Imam are brought in, we will see chaos for our little girls up to who knows. Why do people not understand why some of us fear bringing this, and other, ways of life here. Kill infidels, have female sex slaves, convert to Islam or lose your head, literally. Mr. Kuhn’s (spelling?) appearance and demeanor frightened me. There is nothing in the Constitution about immigration. There is “protecting us from enemies foreign and domestics”. I think Obama has ignored that part. Soldiers murdered by a soldier he calls workplace violence. Someone ask Hillary if she agrees with his decision. I was offended by the man’s accusation that a citizen of our country doesn’t know the Constitution. I value his son’s service to his country. I wonder how he would view his father’s tirade.
@SteveG
On the money, the day is coming when the whole Federal Reserve stuff will go bye-bye. The U.S. will simply print it’s money into existence, or transfer 1’s and 0’s to bank accounts.
That will happen because there aren’t enough people in the world to pay all the debt that is out there. And as birth rates decline, there will be even less. Sooo, one day, the U.S. will print the trillion dollar coins, or Billion Dollar Bills, and pay off the debts. There will be some inflation. I doubt it will be hyper-inflation, unless we delay the inevitable for too many years. I would not put it past Trump, if he surprises me and wins, to do something wild like that to fix things. He is a realist on economics.
It will usher in a new Garden of Eden on Earth! Well, maybe not that. But once the monetary bag is opened, it will become obvious that demand can be stimulated by printing money, and that as long as there is economic activity, the inflation should be survivable.
IMHO.
Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter
@NickS
On your Canuck cliff notes, you forgot the, “I’m really smart, and Republicans are really stupid!” chapter.
Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter
Assad dropped more chlorine gas today. Thanks Obama. That line he drew vanished.
Canadian Cliff Notes. Republicans suck. Dems suck less. You’re welcome.
So Steve
Obama should have not aided in pushing back ISIS and the Taliban? Whatever US support given has stopped, turned back, and will hopefully take out these thugs. I am somewhat surprised at your comment. Not surprised at all at the comments of some of the others. Read the Washington Times and you can find more of that drivel.
One can accurately criticize Obama for many things but regarding stabilizing the US economy-not fixing it-after the chaos and stupidity of eight years of the three stooges and regarding taking the US core out of the problems that the locals should and must be dealing with and assisting and training only; Obama has done a yeoman’s job and more.
Criticisms of Obama in light of what he has accomplished amount to whining that he squeezes the toothpaste tube from the middle, when compared with the other side.
Issac writes, “So Steve
Obama should have not aided in pushing back ISIS and the Taliban? Whatever US support given has stopped, turned back, and will hopefully take out these thugs. I am somewhat surprised at your comment. Not surprised at all at the comments of some of the others. Read the Washington Times and you can find more of that drivel.
One can accurately criticize Obama for many things but regarding stabilizing the US economy-not fixing it-after the chaos and stupidity of eight years of the three stooges and regarding taking the US core out of the problems that the locals should and must be dealing with and assisting and training only; Obama has done a yeoman’s job and more.
Criticisms of Obama in light of what he has accomplished amount to whining that he squeezes the toothpaste tube from the middle, when compared with the other side.”
Issac: You’ll need to clarify what “aided” means? Does it mean sending in special forces or does it mean selling beans and bullets to the Iraqi government? If it means the former, then I infer you believe this is a moral and righteous objective, which is b*llsh*t, so, ‘no,’ Obama should not have intervened. I won’t bore you with the Smedley Butler analysis, but it’s why we’re there.
As for Afghanistan, why didn’t we ever learn from Vietnam? Because the lesson to be learned wasn’t humanitarian in nature but economic. The only plausible reasons for the US still having a presence there otherwise are twofold: 1) so that Obama can kick the can down the road rather than being the president to “lose” what was an apparent lost war on the surface but which underneath was an economic stimulus after the Great Recession of 2008; and, 2) Pakistan’s nuclear weapons to which we acquiesced and may have even provided. Once again, I won’t bore you with the Smedley Butler analysis, but it’s why we’re there.
As for the US economy, it’s oil-based and finance-based, and it must grow to survive. Apart from pitting human beings against each other, it requires war with any sovereign which won’t allow it to grow, and we’ve all seen how it operates in unforgiving cycles. We need a fundamental change in this economic model.
I happen to be one of those who think the current economic model is unsustainable. The three stooges? There are more than three. The only reason we appear to be in a period of economic stability is because the government has borrowed so much money.
Speaking of finance, Obama doubled the national debt. It was about $9T when he took office, and it’s now about $18T. How do you propose we service that debt now? Never mind, the next down cycle. I don’t know that Oama fixed anything. Sure, he gave temporary relief where he mistakenly thought it was needed – in the business sector – and the rest of us are left to pay the debt. A yeoman’s job? A yeoman’s job with interest rates hovering around 1% and falling while the wealthiest Americans are seeing records profits at the expense of everyone else?
Sending production off-shore with trade agreements has worked wonders for temporary corporate profits. Obama would have us believe it’s the key to our success to gut the labor force and unions (let alone avoiding government oversight in such agreements as the TPP). There’s just one problem that he ‘s not telling anyone: when you send production overseas and then bring home the product for retail, there’s no middle class to buy it. It’s been that way for decades, and that’s why the banks started handing out credit through liars’ loans. When no one can afford to pay the loan, production slows to a standstill, goods stockpiled and unable to ship, which is what is happening in China right now. Yeoman’s job. Right. Perhaps it’s been a yeoman’s job for the corporate executives who can show record profits before bailing, but not for the middle class.
It’s predicted we’ll see negative interest rates soon enough and the big banks buying foreign public securities knowingly accepting a return less than the purchase price on the rationale that at least they’ll get something back when our economy collapses again. And it will collapse. How many more downturns will it take for you to realize this?
Yeoman’s job. Surely, you jest.
I know a medmar clinic which guarantees epiphanies. Get one before the City of San Diego slaps on a 5% tax on its recreational use.
@NickS
If Medicare or her insurance doesn’t cover epiphanies, maybe she could fly to some place like India, where they are more affordable??? Maybe even Mexico, if they do them there??? I hate to be cruel, but what she did she expect from Obamacare!!!
Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter
Steve, SWM is like Baghdad Bob. But, she’s tough and committed. I can abide that. I think she’s too old to have an epiphany.
In the last 7 years, Nobel Peace Prize winner President Obama has bombed:
• Iraq
• Afghanistan
• Pakistan
• Yemen
• Somalia
• Syria
• And again yesterday, Libya.
– codepink.org
Autumn, I listened to CNN on my satellite radio and heard the press conference. I love being lectured to by Obama and a foreign leader on how TPP is good for us. I flipped the bird @ my radio. Both the Singapore PM and Obama have that pompous attitude that gets my Irish up! Brexit was the shot heard around the world. Elitists in both parties love taking cash from corporations and sticking it to regular folks. Hillary is lying about TPP and anyone who doesn’t see it is an idiot or a liar..like her.
@steve
I was sorry that Nina Turner did not decide to run with Jill. This guy is an unknown entity to most of us. But we still firmly JillnotHill
Nina’s delusional if she thinks she can adroitly maneuver the Democratic-Party cancer into remission. And by attempting it, she becomes part of the problem.
So Obomber sez “The Republican nominee is unfit to serve as president,”
Obama said at a White House news conference with the Prime Minister of Singapore.
Really? He’s hanging with a TPP accomplice from another country and saying that Trump is unfit?
http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/02/politics/obama-says-trump-unfit-for-presidency/
@karenS
Dubai is an absolute nightmare IMO. While I admire the architecture I realize the horrid conditions for the workers. AND it is an environmental horror show like Las Vegas.
Autumn:
“But there are other countries with Muslims that are very peaceful.” Absolutely. It’s only where there is Sharia Law or based on Sharia Law where human rights are abused each and every time. This is true even in Dubai, which is such a safe country you could leave your suitcase in the middle of the street, and come back for it half an hour later to still find it there. Of course, it’s safe because they still chop the hand off of thieves. But more than that, there have been terrible scandals about sex slavery, and the treatment of foreign workers, especially the abuse of foreign women workers, that rocked even this comparatively cosmopolitan nation. And I won’t get into the horse doping scandal, which is a blight on a region once famous for its reverence for horses.
Hmmm. I guess SWM hasn’t heard the persistent rumblings:
Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter
@SWM
I would say “buh-bye” but I know you’ll be back as you are a Correct the Record troll and have to make some Clinton cash (pardon the pun!). Cheers!
If the moral values displayed by Hillary are “our deepest moral values” then we should all just off ourselves right now and let God start over.