By Darren Smith, Weekend Contributor.
In May of this year, we reported a disturbing allegation of an unlawful use of force against a then fifteen-year-old girl by a Tacoma Police Officer working an off-duty assignment at a large shopping mall.
Originally filed in with the Pierce County Washington Superior Court, on September 19th the case was removed to the U.S. District Court of Western Washington.
Surveillance video shows what appears to be disturbing actions by a professional police officer used against a petite fifteen year old for alleged criminal acts against her that were later dismissed. Plaintiff alleges in her tort claim that race discrimination was a factor in the incident.
In May of 2014, plaintiff Monique Charlene Tillman and her brother claim earlier in the day they sold clothing to earn money to buy food. Afterward they biked through the Tacoma Mall parking lot on their way home. It was during this crossing that off-duty Tacoma Police Officer Jared Williams, who was working a paid detail for the mall and not on official assignment with the police department, stopped the siblings. The event is shown in the below video.
The lawsuit claims that after being stopped by Officer Williams, accompanied by three mall security guards, Monique began arguing and tried to ride away. During this stop, the lawsuit alleges that the teenagers where told they would be banned from mall property for creating a disturbance.
As Monique started to ride away, Officer Williams yanked her from her bicycle and aggressively arrested her, finishing the incident by firing a Taser at her.
This is surveillance video showing the incident.
Plaintiff alleges the stop was unlawful, but your author does not have information regarding the reasonable suspicion or probable cause stated by Officer Williams who charged Monique with Assault in the Fourth Degree claiming assault on the officer. Several months later a Pierce County Juvenile Court dismissed this charge. For the purposes of discussion, we will not discuss the reasonable suspicion alleged for stopping Monique or her brother. In my opinion it is really only tangent to the use of force engaged by Officer Williams. I do not consider his actions to be justified by whatever crime Monique could be accused. I believe the force used was facially unlawful.
In the amended complaint filed in State Court, and subsequently entered into the federal court’s record, Plaintiffs allege that TPD Officer Williams, “had [not] seen Plaintiffs engage in any criminal activity prior to Defendant Knaack and Defendant Williams stopping Plaintiffs,” and further allege, “Defendant Williams allegedly responded that Plaintiffs were causing a disturbance and were being “trespassed” from the Mall because of their disruptive behavior. Plaintiff Tillman responded that she believed was being harassed because of the color of her skin.”
Plaintiff states, and the video seems to support, that Officer Williams, “tossed Plaintiff Tillman around like a child’s doll, slamming her into parked vehicles, forcefully shoving his hand and forearm into her chest, grabbing her by the hair and body slamming her into the pavement. Once Defendant Williams had flung Plaintiff Tillman to the ground, he deployed his Taser, sending painful electric shocks through Plaintiff Tillman.
Plaintiff Branch [her brother] was horrified by Defendant Williams’ brutalization of his sister and attempted to come to her aid.
When Plaintiff Branch tried to help his sister, Defendant Williams ordered Plaintiff Branch to back off and pointed his Taser at him, threatening to deploy it.
Defendant Knaack either grabbed or shoved Plaintiff Branch to the ground
after Plaintiff Branch backed away from Defendant Williams.”
Plaintiffs generally allege Unlawful use of force, negligence in preventing excessive use of force and failure to upholding constitutional rights of persons in the community, Assault and Battery, intentional or reckless infliction of emotion distress, false imprisonment, malicious prosecution, section 1983 violation–excessive use of force and deliberate indifference, and violation of the Washington Civil Rights Act.
My personal analysis of the surveillance video cited in the complaint is as follows:
- The video begins with Monique and her brother riding through the parking lot, followed by Officer Williams and the security guards.
- 00:17 Personal contact is made with Monique who is upon her bicycle. She begins talking and directing his attention ahead with hand gestures probably indicating her destination as she passes through the parking lot.
- 00:48 Officer Williams pulls a notebook from his shirt pocket, Most likely to begin writing information about the incident or Monique’s name.
- 00:56 Monique leans forward, appearing to ride away. She has her right foot on the ground and her hands probably on the handlebars.
- 00:57 Officer Williams, using both hands while still holding the notepad grasps her left arm and pulls her toward him. If Williams did not allow Monique to leave simply stepping forward and holding her back with a hand or grabbing the handlebar I am certain would have been sufficient to stop her from leaving. Preventing Monique from leaving an investigation would be lawful, provided in this case a minimal amount of force is used.
- 00:58 Officer Williams pulls Monique from the bike quickly while attempting to put Monique to the ground using a Straight Arm Bar Takedown. Monique does not fall to the ground and stands. I believe pulling Monique from the bicycle in this manner is unnecessary and a reasonable action would be to have her dismount the bicycle and remain standing, or even ordering her to sit on the pavement. She was not given any opportunity to do so. An Arm Bar Takedown can cause minor injuries to a person upon striking pavement as it is common for the target of the takedown to suddenly fall to the ground. Used properly the takedown can be mitigated by holding the arm and setting the person down but this is not always successful. But, again, I do not believe it was necessary.
- 00:59 Monique turns in a manner consistent with being spun around by Williams who is trying to restrain her. The two then go off camera. One of the security guards holds back her brother briefly.
- 01:08 Monique is held to the black SUV, restrained by a palm to her chest. Monique appears to be holding onto Officer Williams’ left forearm.
- 01:24 Officer Williams attempts to put Monique’s right arm behind her back to cuff her but this does not happen. Instead, Williams spins her around and walks her to the from of the vehicle where he again pushes her into the SUV, probably in another attempt to handcuff her.
- 01:29 After another unsuccessful attempt to put Monique onto the ground, and she stands, Officer Williams grabs her by the back of the head using a hair-hold while using a wrist clench.
- 01:32 Officer Williams strongly yanks Monique, by the hair, to the sidewalk. Given the hardness of the ground, the physical size of Monique compared with Officer Williams, his strength, and training, and the fact that this incident was a minor violation at best, lesser means should have been employed. Officers are permitted by state law and common law to exercise reasonable force to overcome resistance, which defendants are likely to argue. However reasonableness is by both forms of law mandated.
- 01:38 Williams straddles Monique and draws a Taser.
- 01:40 Officer Williams shoots Monique with the darts of his Taser as evidenced by her clenching and the reflection of a wire in the video. He then holds his Taser while standing above her. In my view there was no reason to deploy a Taser against Monique given that she was on the ground and could have been cuffed with little difficulty. In fact, she was where Williams wanted her to be given that he used Straight Arm Bar Takedowns before. He was already standing above her and unless she displayed a weapon, which there is no evidence this occurred, the Taser use was excessive.
- 01:53 One of the security guards comes forward and handcuffs Monique while Williams stands over her, holding the Taser. She remains on the sidewalk at least until the video ends.
While the complaint alleges that race was a factor in defendant’s alleged assault against the plaintiffs, I personally believe this is likely the least provable fact and no evidence to support this claim was proffered by Plaintiffs in the amended complaint other than mentioning that the “color of her skin” elicited the unlawful actions by Defendants. If however it is so proven, it would not only satisfy the Section 1983 race/color elements but greatly increase, obviously, the damages.
I do however feel this case has strong merit; sufficient enough to warrant a settlement offer by Defendants.
And, as I have mentioned repeatedly in the past, this is yet another shining example of how such small things can mushroom into a protracted controversy that is very costly to officers choosing to clamp down when it is not necessary. Those in authority need to understand that simply looking the other way on stuff that does not matter is often the best course of action. It is not worth it to anyone.
By Darren Smith
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Working off Darren’s description of the event alone, she was resisting arrest. She would be in juvie in Arizona.
She might deserve to be in juvie. Who knows what her ‘rap sheet’ looks like. But, Paul, with your 150+IQ, tell us if it would still be OK to slam her around like that? If your answer is yes, then the next step is just shooting her because the officer thought she might have a gun, hidden somewhere. Of course you might just take refuge in your typical contrarian for contrarian’s sake refuge, but give it a try.
These two videos illustrate diametrically opposed attitudes of the responsibilities of being a cop. In the one, perhaps because there were so many other cops and firemen there along with citizens or perhaps better training, the out of control brat was treated with kid gloves. In the other an out of control cop erupted on a teenager for what could only be at its worst, disrespect. In one incident the cops should be commended. In the other the cop should be fired.
Those who can’t differentiate between the two are part of the problem, the extremes, those that contribute to the chaos and mayhem.
issac – my guess, and it is a guess, is that she said something that hit a hot button with the officer. Police are held to a higher standard, however there is a limit they have to put up with. There was a failure to communicate and the officer was getting the young woman’s attention. I do not generally agree with his tactics, however I was not there and do not know what was said to aggravate the situation. Is that contrary enough for you?
The point is that nothing ‘said’ should result in a cop losing it like that. France lost the world cup over a smart remark from an Italian. Zidane responded to a typical taunt physically and his replacement missed the kick. Here the cop diminished his profession and should be benched. Nothing anyone says should result in a physical assault from anybody, let alone a cop. If another person had done that to her, regardless of what she said, they would be slammed legally both publicly and privately. This cop’s bar is way to low for his profession. And no, your contrarian response is lame, not indicative of a 150+ IQ.
issac – there is a concept in the common law called ‘fighting words.’ Words that would cause an ordinary person to take a swing at you. There is also a concept of ‘mutual combat.’ No major harm, no foul. You are living in a world of unicorns and fairies.
Paul
Common law varies from place to place and from time to time. In this time and the place where the girl who hit the car with her bike, the police acted properly. The girl was a teenage, poorly raised, disrespectful, brat and the police treated her as such, a brat that presented no danger to anyone but herself. The way the police performed is a benchmark for proper procedure. The girl and her lack of respect exists in all cultures and times. Cops everywhere deal with this. Watch ‘West Side Story’ to see how street kids talked to cops. Growing up we were no different and the cops just laughed it off as they remembered their youth.
The cop at the mall was simply out of control and not performing as the police should. Any other interpretation including extenuating circumstances under pseudo legal gibberish such as ‘fighting words’ and ‘common law’, leads one to believe that the person doing the interpreting probably has no where near a 150+IQ; probably not even breaking 100. Your comments deny you credibility as someone with a high IQ as well as an inventive contrarian. You really fell flat on this one. I would quit while I am no further behind if I were you. G’nite.
issac – West Side Story uses the word ‘fu+k’ once. I worked with teenage gangsters. They were several levels beyond West Side Story and more heavily armed. West Side Story is a fairy tale compared to what is really happening with the teen gangs.
Paul
You sound more and more like Trump, disconnected from the issue, grabbing at straws, and oblivious-simply for the sake of argument. Confuse and confound. The kids in both videos were of the ‘West Side Story’ level of ‘backtalk’: not armed heavily or otherwise, in no way whatsoever a threat to the cops or anyone else, and simply a product of poor parenting, regardless of the ‘Black’ thing some might attempt to apply. In one instance the kid was treated exactly as she presented herself, a mouthy little brat of no threat to anyone but herself. In the other the kid was assaulted by an out of control Nazi cop. You do win one point, however, you suckered me into responding one last time, one last time because there is no way out of your hole, the bottom of which you must realize by now you have reached. I would say stop digging but how can a relentless, and in this exchange feeble, contrarian stop digging? So, enjoy the last word, however nonsensical it might be. This recent exchange predicts next to no if no sense at all.
Wise decision Isaac, DON’T FEED THE TROLLS it only encourages them and you have a snowflake’s chance in hell that you will change their minds.
Carlyle Moulton – Issac is a special snowflake. Please be extra careful with him.
issac – you have NO idea how those kids talk to you. They think they are golden and cannot be touched. If you so much as look at them funny (or they think you did) they are calling CPS and the cops and claiming you molested them. You wouldn’t last 5 minutes with them.
I have never met a cop who didn’t like to hunt or fish.
They are wired to be predators who just happen to be armed thus elevating their superiority over their prey.
How dare any one challenge their judgment.
Too bad the taxpayers have had to pay for his salary.
@phillyT & @Roscoe P let me know what venue you guys are playing, your better then the Marx Bros.
It’s time to start drug testing the police after every violent encounter on their part. How many officers are taking steroids? How many are on illegal drugs?
Also time to start doing random searches of their vehicles for throw-down weapons.
And more background searches for connections to white power groups.
This job is not for everyone. It’s Protect and Serve, not What the Hell Are You Looking At?
Can someone tell me what the ratio is of police violating the rights of blacks vs blacks violating the rights of others? I noticed how a white supporter was beaten by 8 blacks that was on the news for 5 secs, the supporter shot in the head (no rubber bullets used), the black guy shot water he’s lawn by a black on a bike for his wallet.
The news carried it all for about 5 seconds guess it don’t fit the narrative.
What’s the proper ratio for justifying the harassment and violence against blacks by the police?
I would suggest that every ten violent acts by blacks against each other or especially against white people, gives the police one free beating, assault or shooting of a random black person.
Does that seem about right?
Philly T.
What is the proper ratio of Blacks killing police officers?
If Blacks are about 13% of the population, and responsible for over 40% of murders of officers, “Does that seem about right” to you, given your fondness for “ratios”?
Since you are so obviously dense, I’ll answer the question straight up.
It doesn’t matter what civilians do. Period. It is NEVER OK for the police to harass, murder, rape, assault, or otherwise abuse the public. They’ve been doing it for a hundred years in black and poor neighborhoods. The only difference now is that people have cameras so we’re starting to see the proof.
As I said, the job is not for everyone. If you don’t have the temperament to be a GOOD police officer, go find another job. These bullies and steroid junkies give a bad name to every good cop on the line.
And furthermore, police deaths in the line of duty are the lowest they’ve been in more than 30 years. Smoke that.
Philly T.
I didn’t see anyone suggestioning that it was OK for police to “harass, murder, rape, assault”.
I see that you dismiss the murder of police with your “It doesn’t matter what civilians do”.
You show a great deal of consistency in your use of specious, ridiculous comments.
You continue to purposefully misinterpret or misrepresent things others say on the board. People are on to you.
Police deaths in the line of duty are at a 30 year low. Civilian deaths at the hands of the police are rising at an alarming rate.
And if you go back and look at Ms Squeeky’s comments, she IS in fact saying she doesn’t care what the police do at this point, so there ARE people saying it’s OK for the police to do what they’re doing.
If you are stupid enough to interpret my saying that it “doesn’t matter what civilians do” as condoning police murder, then you are probably beyond redemption. My entire point is that police are bound by their duties to the public. Criminals are criminals. Crazy people are crazy. Drunk people are drunk. The job is dealing with all that. And a thousand other things. I’ll say it again: If you’re not cut out to do the job, and not everyone is, find another damn job.
Thanks for playing. You can go back to your mom’s basement now.
philly T.
This exchange started with your absurd comment about “ratios”.
As far as your comment that I misteprent your comments and that people “are on to me”, your posts speak for themselves.
“Misrepresent”
Actually the first mention of ratios came from J Cheevers Loopehole at the top of this chain, not me. Once again you are about making things up, reading what you like into what people say and misrepresenting.
You simply must be a Trump supporter, given your fantasy relationship with facts and the truth. The only thing that seems to matter to you is your emotions.
And yes, if you ever were to actually read one of my posts, they do speak for themselves. Sadly, you only read what you want.
Carry on.
Philly T., I’ll try to stop misrepresenting your comments by quoting them.
I guess in your mind, half a truth is better than none. Sloppy work, sir. Sloppy work. You pretend that quoting me somehow takes the place of dealing with the fact that someone else started the “ratio” discussion and that I was just commenting on it.
Quoting me does nothing to correct your sloppy work.
Philly T., I’ll try to stop misrepresenting your comments by quoting them.
I don’t think quoting= misrepresentation, but if quoting you causes you that much concern, I’ll ease up.
Quote me, don’t quote me.
Has nothing to do with your sloppy thinking and writing.
I don’t care what the police do anymore, because I am sick of black thugs and misbehaving Negroes whining about their alleged “mistreatment.” Screw ’em. If they would listen to the cops, and comply, they would not have these troubles. Reporting this kind of stuff to the degree it is reported only occurs because it plays into the Democratic Part race-baiting narrative.
When is the last time you saw a “Cops Shoot White Person” brouhaha? Or, “Cops Slap Crap Out of White Punk” story. Because white people generally do not care much what happens to the criminal class. Sometimes we take this reluctance to concern ourselves to the extreme, as in the case of prisons, which really are often deplorable cesspools.
But frankly, “Cop Is Rough With A Sassy Pickaninny” is just not worth much attention, much less a lawsuit, etc. The majority of black kids are being raised by crazy, savage black whores and the real injustice is that we continue to foot the bill for these horrible pieces of crap to procreate, and make excuses for their primitive, nasty behavior. Single Black Mothers are the real danger these kids face, and the chief source of the systematic abuse they face. Which white liberals must ignore, because it don’t fit the Narrative.
Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter
Squeeky often asks for examples that prove she is a racist.
Easy as pie:
But frankly, “Cop Is Rough With A Sassy Pickaninny” is just not worth much attention, much less a lawsuit, etc. The majority of black kids are being raised by crazy, savage black whores and the real injustice is that we continue to foot the bill for these horrible pieces of crap to procreate, and make excuses for their primitive, nasty behavior.
And Pietro?
You are just as disgusting as Squeeky.
Professor.
Do you ever reflect on how it is that you have assembled such a wonderful assortment of humanity around here?
9/11 truthers, off-their-thioridizine conspiracy aficionados NOS, birthers, commies, votaries of Jabba the Crapumentarian, people who’d love to see the mullahs drop the big one on Tel Aviv, and people who think 2/3 of the black population consists of criminals and welfare-moochers. Quite a clown car.
Complying with a police officers command is harassment? Get out there and do one week tour on midnights you come back and Ill listen to you. Until then you and all the libs here are just Spectators. You have something to say when your asked a legitimate question but a guy like Pietro says “kill cops” and you say nothing.
You and people like you and your buddy Pietro are a big problem.
Just stop.
Try reading comments before you post.
I said the job is not for everyone. I know it’s a tough job. I know that cops have to deal with the worst elements of society. That’s why it takes a special person. That’s why it takes special training. The job requires more than being a big dude with a bad attitude. Or pumped on steroids. Or being a racist sh*tbird who can’t wait to shoot a black man. Or kid.
If you’re not cut out for the job, DO SOMETHING ELSE. There are plenty of jobs for former high school football players or ex-military looking for another adrenaline high.
I said nothing about killing cops.
True, Philly T. You said nothing about killing cops.
You just said “it doesn’t matter what civilians do” in response to my comment about murdered cops.
You have thrown everything but the kitchen sink at what a police officer is, in your opinion “drugs, steroids, adrenaline high, high school football player, ex military, racist, what have we missed in reading your comments?
From Police Chief Magazine. About the problem of steroid use among the police.
http://www.policechiefmagazine.org/magazine/?fuseaction=display_arch&article_id=1512&issue_id=62008
Get a clue about what’s going on.
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/steroid-cops.jpg
One of the first places my kid and their friends went to on the ‘a little further from the neighborhood’ adventure, was the local mall. They either biked or skateboarded and ‘hung around’. The only difference here is the girl does not recognize the authority of the police and/or the security guards. In attempting to leave she is disrespecting the cop. Malls do have problems with kids cutting through and stressing out old people who are trying to maneuver their Escalades.
However, this cop is not in control of himself and should not be a police officer. Ms From presented a video of another incident where the kid broke the law, did damage, and totally flipped out. How the police officers handled the girl who damaged the car was exemplary. The girl was a spoiled brat who, perhaps, couldn’t control herself. The police detained the freaking out brat with substantial care. One cop per arm is all that is necessary. When you weigh three times the kid, there is no need for a taser. In the mall incident, simple holding the bike would have been the appropriate first move. The immediate grabbing of the girl and tossing her around illustrates clearly that the police officer was out of control and not an appropriate person for the job. He exploded into action that was totally unnecessary. Perhaps it is working two jobs that contributes to a stress level or whatever. The bottom line is that there was no threat from the kids in both videos. In one the kid was treated as a spoiled and disrespectful brat, but with care and attention; in the other the kid was treated as a violent and dangerous criminal.
In this society where the police are allowed to determine what is and what is not a threat and to use lethal force resulting from a ‘judgement call’ alone, there has to be some balance in the realm of common sense and self control. Police officers need more training, more scrutiny, and above all need to understand that they are there to protect and serve and if a teenager shows disrespect that doesn’t justify this sort of treatment. Juveniles have always been lipping off and disrespecting authority. This cop acted like a Nazi.
Unfortunately the police have to deal with those who are unreasonably critical as well as those that back them up even when they are wrong. That is why we have the courts. Hopefully this officer will lose his job and end up where he should be, a mall cop, if he is lucky, and if he passes a psychological scrutiny. He has no business being a cop. There simply have to be better prospects out there.
I have friends whose kids are cops, friends who are cops, and have only heard how hard it is to become a cop, how discriminating the forces are, etc. Perhaps they have to discriminate more and be ever more vigilant. You don’t taser a teenage girl on the ground who you have just yanked off of her bike and slammed around for a while, against parked cars and onto the ground. Society does not need this guy protecting it.
Thanks for the analysis Darren, I appreciate your unbiased account. It’s a shame how quickly any situation can become emotional and uncivil. Just look at these blog posts. Is it too much to ask that these law enforcement officers just be detached and professional?
“Is it too much to ask that these law enforcement officers just be detached and professional?”.
YES, it is far too much to ask.
That’s a shame, because that kind of professionalism is what separated us from the rest of the uncivilized world. If everyone adopts a situational ethic, that is not good for society as a whole. A police friend of mine notes that himself. He admitted to being “pretty quick to put someone on the hood, but you have to maintain control.” Seems that the officer lost that pretty quickly as Darren points out.
Pig Lives Don’t Matter. PLDM.
All four pigs involved in this assault on this kid need to be shot and killed. Soon.
Retribution is justice when there is no “public” justice.
The punk cop needs to be dead.
I can imagine someone shooting the cop when he leaves his home this morning to go to work. One shot to the head and two down below.
Can you imagine a cop saying “stop or I’ll keep talking”.
In my previous comment should be “react withinappropriate uppitlyness”.
All of these incidents could have been avoided had the teen simply complied with the officer’s directions. My parents always told me to comply with the cop’s orders, even if he is being a jerk, you can file a complaint later, but at the time you are dealing with him on the street you have to cooperate. Maybe these black kids are never raised to be cooperative and respectful, or maybe being unruly and belligerent is just their nature. I really can’t imagine fighting a cop when I was 15! It would have never even entered my mind to be so bold.
There you said it “your parents always told you”, when there are several kids in the home each with a different father and none around who will teach them respect for anyone? The libs condone this lifestyle, why they flat out support it. Amazing isn’t it how these people are out till late hours week days hootin and holeran, how do they get up fresh to go to work, Oh that’s right they don’t.
As the Sqeeker said its coming to their backyard and they will be crying like little girls “where are those police”.
Blacks are learning that even when they comply with the police’s directions, they may get killed anyhow. So, I completely understand why some of them resist; I’d fight for my life, or the life of a loved one, too. I have a lot of respect for many cops. But some of them are violent thugs and should be in prison.
Blacks are learning that even when they comply with the police’s directions, they may get killed anyhow.
This is a social fiction, but one useful for certain sorts of people.
It’s the Democratic Party Victimology Narrative. Which is just the Old Race Baiting in new clothes.
Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter
Absolutely right. And we have the video to prove it now. Comply, Don’t comply. If the police are of a mind to shoot, stomp or taze you, too bad for you.
And anyway, non-compliance is not a death sentence. Failure to comply may be an arrest-able offense, but it is not a death sentence.
“All of these incidents could have been avoided had the teen simply complied with the officer’s directions. ” Do you include the incident, oh maybe a year ago, when a black motorist was told to get his license and registration after he had pulled into a gas station? As the man reached into his car to get his wallet he was shot.
I think that motorist was giving complete compliance of the officers direction and he was shot. Or, wasn’t the incident I just described one of “these incidents”?
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What a shame!
The continued attacks on police will end with cops sitting back and doing nothing. Why protect and serve when your setting yourself up for lawsuits. Get a call man with a gun, put lights and siren on and get there nice and easy. Guy has a gun drive away. Stay out of all the neighborhoods where crime is the highest. Kids going into Mall lots stealing from cars take a report.
You cannot perform a police job when no matter what you do your wrong. Let the public see what it’s like when cops back off and give them just what they want. Let the libs in the burbs feel the pain.
Yep. That is what the police are already doing. I can’t wait for the violence to hit the Northern/Blue State burbs. Because the young black savages are learning and developing new strategies all the time. Soon, it won’t be the liquor store in their neighborhood,but the strip mall in the bedroom communities. And the downtown business areas.
Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter
Darren’s thoughtful post post was ruined for me by this racist claptrap. If anyone tries to tell you that we are post racial just read the Turley blog and you will see otherwise.
Some chose to ignore these posts but remember white silence is white consent.
Yes, I agree.
Prejudice against blacks hasn’t gone away. It just went underground after the civil rights era because it was no longer okay to tar, feather, and lynch black people and you might actually go to jail for doing it. And people were less likely to say “n******” or complain about integration, at least in public. But the anonymity of the internet [you can say nasty stuff without consequence], the election of Obama [how dare a black man become president!] and the emergence of Trump has allowed racism to come out of the shadows and emerge full blown again.
Of course, racism is not limited to just one ethnic group, political party, etc. And it should be called out when it occurs. However, right now, the brightest light is shining on Trump and some of his supporters, and it is loathesome and ugly.
Prejudice against blacks hasn’t gone away. It just went underground after the civil rights era because it was no longer okay to tar, feather, and lynch black people and you might actually go to jail for doing it.
The practice of lynching went into rapid decline after about 1893. The frequency of lynchings declined by about 2/3 between 1920 and 1935 in spite of the popularity of the 2d incarnation of the Klan in the 1920s. The last bloc lynching occurred in Georgia in 1946 and there were a scatter between 1946 and 1959, with the last occurring in Mississippi in 1959. The ‘civil rights era’ was not coincident with the demise of lynching. Lynching had disappeared earlier. Regarding blacks, it was always a Deep South phenomenon; it was rare anywhere else.
the election of Obama [how dare a black man become president!]
If it helps you feel better, I suppose it is harmless enough, but the notion that BOs critics are incensed by this Uppity Negro cannot survive reading the actual critiques of his person and administration. Leftoids cannot deal with the opposition they deal with caricatures.
While we’re at it, Obama’s connection to the domestic black population is that he married into it. There is a modest population of blacks in Honolulu. There is no ‘black community’ in Honolulu. He had no proximity to the domestic black population until he enrolled at Columbia in 1981. At a later point, he and Mooch lived in a section of Chicago proximate to the University that is just this side of a gated community. Their circle of friends among Chicago’s blacks was small – a handful of couples drawn from mulattish old-money (e.g. Eric Whittaker and Valerie Jarrett). Other than his mother-in-law, BO has scant history with rank-and-file blacks.
So according to you shut your mouth and forget the rule of law and MY right to speak up. Let me know how that works out for you when you need the police and they take their sweet time getting to your wife who is being attacked in the Mall lot.
Nope, I love free speech and am okay with people saying whatever they want, including racist comments. I was simply saying that racism is alive and well and more visible than ever. Just because it’s repugnant and ugly doesn’t mean I want anyone to shut up.
If you are referring to me, please explain why you think what I said was racissst!
Because, if you just label the speech, but don’t explain why it is the thing you are accusing of it being, you haven’t really made a cogent argument. You are just name-calling.
Thank you!
Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter
SQUEAKY, Nope. Wasn’t responding 2u. It was to someone who referred to “my wife” in the comments. I remember the mistake since I’m a woman. Thanks.
No problemo. I wasn’t fussing at you or anything. It’s just that I get called a racist a lot, without any real explanation. In legal terms, it’s never “connected up.”
Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter
Ha, maybe it’s time to move to S. Africa?
“…Preventing Monique from leaving an investigation would be lawful…”
Investigation of exactly what? Riding a bike while black? How and why does the author arbitrarily eliminate from discussion that the defendant, to reader’s knowledge, apparently did not witness nor hear report of any real or potential crime?
It’s rather offensive to readers for the author to make unsubstantiated claim (“an investigation” of apparently nothing) then prohibit conversation of the claim.
Investigation of exactly what?
Something out of the view of the security camera.
I suppose this white “LEO” laments the “good ole days” when he could have just beat this black girl to death, claimed self defense, and forget about the whole thing.
Maybe she was going to ride home, get a gun, and kill him? If yes, then I suppose this was self defense, right?
QUOTE “Preventing Monique from leaving an investigation would be lawful”
Huh? Investigating what? What crime was committed that he was ‘investigating’?
More like harassment to me. And it seems to me that he has no right to stop anyone if no crime is committed.
I don’t have any sympathy for these little idiots. About time somebody knocked them around a little. Plus, their age and size are not really relevant. Look at the prolonged fight this 15 year old scrawny girl put up, in Hagerstown:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNiDs0q06kE
I hope the cops win this one.
Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter
The pigs are evil. Why were they screwing with her? Beat, beat bo beat. Cop on the beat. Gotta beat.