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Duterte: I Personally Killed Suspects To Show The Police How It Is Done

rodrigo_duterte_and_laotian_president_bounnhang_vorachith_croppedWe have previously discussed the disgraceful reign of Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte, a foul-mouthed, patently unstable leader who relishes extrajudicial killings. Duterte who has unleashed profanities at the Pope, President Obama, and anyone else objecting to his evisceration of human rights and the rule of law. Now, Duterte, undeterred by global condemnations and withholding of aid programs, he is now publicly bragging about how he personally murdered suspects as an example for police who were a bit more reluctant to engage in extrajudicial murders. The question now is whether the Filipino government contains enough sane and honorable leaders to finally move to remove this unhinged, tyrannical figure. While China clearly loves what it sees in this murderous authoritarian, most Filipinos were raised in a nation that has struggled to create true democratic institutions based on the rule of law.

Duterte used a speech on Monday night to businessmen to casually discussed how he used to personally kill people suspected of drug ties. Various witnesses have said that they witnessed Duterte murder people, but this is the first direct confession to murder. Thousands have reportedly been killed without charge or trial under Duterte’s short but blood-soaked rule. In referring to his time as mayor of Davao, he said

“In Davao I used to do it personally. Just to show to the guys (police) that if I can do it why can’t you . . . And I’d go around in Davao with a motorcycle, with a big bike around, and I would just patrol the streets, looking for trouble also. I was really looking for a confrontation so I could kill.”

A lawyer by training, Duterte, 71, reportedly thought it was funny to recount his past murders: “I (would) sometimes go along with them. If you say I shot someone, maybe I did. I was closing my eyes because I am scared of firing a gun.”

Duterte is a little different from most tyrants. Most assume control of government based on promised of democracy or justice. There was no “bait and switch” by Duterte. He ran on a pledge to kill 100,000 people would die in the crackdown and to feed the fish in Manila Bay with their corpses.

Since taking office, he has made good on an established 2,086 killings in police operations and more than 3,000 others who have been killed in unexplained circumstances. He has promised police that no one in the force will go to jail for such murders.

In the United States, there might be an issue of impeachment for crimes that occurred before taking office. However, that is hardly a problem for a president who ran on the promise of extrajudicial murders and his government has carried out such murders.

126 thoughts on “Duterte: I Personally Killed Suspects To Show The Police How It Is Done”

  2. Turd Boy runs the Phila Peens !
    Turd Boy like to suck on weens.
    He got married to the widow next door.
    She’s been married seven times before.

    And every one was a turd boy.
    It would not be a Willy or a Fred.

    For there ain’t no guy like Turd Boy.
    Turd Boy the 8th I am!

  4. @Bams

    Amen! The first order of being a civilized society, is maintaining law and order. Druggies openly flaunt the laws, and send a country spiraling into crime, poverty, and disorder. I have been on Duterte’s side since I first read about him. He “gets” it. You either kill the criminals, or the criminals will kill you, and your society.

    Squeeky Fromm
    Girl Reporter

    1. So opiate addicts should get the death penalty? Should we change the laws to reflect that? What about marijuana users? Drunk drivers flaunt the laws. Should they also receive the death penalty in your world?

      2. Personally, if I was the Fuhrer, I would phase it in. I would spend the first few years executing drug dealers left and right, and then, when there was a significant decrease in their numbers, I would start in on addicts. Under the same theory that we use to prosecute consumers of kiddie porn – – – that there would be no seller if there was no buyer. After a few years of that, I would then extend it to mere users and possessers of drugs, too.

        But I think before it came to offing users and possessors, and maybe even addicts. once the druggies knew that the threat was real, you would see a lot of people in rehab, and even most of the sellers deciding they needed a new career.

        Squeeky Fromm
        Girl Reporter

        1. Squeeky – Hitler (der Furher) and the Wehrmarcht were hopped up on meth during WWII. To compete we had our troops on bennies. The Germans had a real addiction problem, especially after the invasion of Russia. Since is was available OTC, soldiers would have their parents sent more in their monthly care packages.

        2. Um Squeek – do you realize that a lot of people who become addicts are because of the pharma companies increasing the dosages? I know several people — otherwise outstanding –who have fallen into that and almost destroyed their families — and my husband’s bro OD’d on fentanyl. A lot of addiction issues are due to genetics and Big Pharma has profitted mightily off OxyContin, etc.

          So I think we need to go after Big Pharma AND the docs who so easily prescribe this crap! As I type this I have a bottle of Oxy in the kitchen cabinent – prescribed by a dentist after a tooth extraction almost a year ago- 16 tabs and I only needed 1. Luckily, my body does not respond to opiates unless I am in pain so there is no danger getting hooked. But others are not so fortunate and I feel for them greatly.

      3. Dave – drug addicts are on the road to death anyway. All that is happening is a faster death and savings to the state. He does give them a choice.

    2. Bernie Sanders ā€@BernieSanders 15m15 minutes ago

      Even though the same proportion of blacks and whites use marijuana, a black person is almost 4x more likely to be arrested for possession.

  5. Say what you will about this guy, but crime in the Philippines was down, allegedly, by around 49%–according to an article published in August, 2016. Yep. 49% folks. If it takes shooting drug dealers, on the spot, dumping their bodies in ravines. . .well, them’s the breaks. Reducing societal crime by half is hard to ignore. Want to clean up the barbarism in the streets of Chicago, where the deaths–directly attributable to violent and unrestrained drug dealers–have hit an all-time record? Employ just one iota of this guy’s mentality and techniques and watch Chicago transform into one of the safest towns in the country. No one has the b@lls to say that. Why, that’s downright scandalous. Obscene. Outlandish. No problem for me. I have more b@lls than most men.

    1. Bam bam, this guy sells himself as a crime-control maven from his years as Mayor of Davao City. Well, if police departments are run by local authorities, why would you expect crime rates to go down by a change in the identity of the chief executive of the national government?

    2. bam bam — Haven’t much use for the rule of law principle have you. The answer to lawlessness and crime on the part of criminals is not for the government, its agents and the citizens to whom government is answerable to also engage in lawless and criminal behavior. Your solution is a draconian nightmare, one that would surely bring any nation to a state of savagery and barbarity. Damn glad you have no more power or influence than a single vote. Should you ever gain enough power to attempt to enact your dystopian vision I’ll be one of the ones resisting you.

  6. I think Duterte is like Jimmy Piersall, who would often say, “I’m crazy and I’ve got the papers to prove it.”

    1. I’m section 8, head to toe.

      I’m wearing a Warner bra.

      I play with dolls.

    1. Killed drug users too. With the opiate epidemic here not so sure that is a popular choice as they do have families.

    2. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2016/09/30/duterte-happy-slaughter-drug-suspects-mentions-hitler/91311046/ “Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte said Friday he would be “happy to slaughter” 3 million drug addicts just like Hitler killed millions of Jews.

      “Hitler massacred 3 million Jews ā€¦ thereā€™s 3 million drug addicts. There are. Iā€™d be happy to slaughter them,ā€ Duterte said Friday after discussing his anti-drug campaign with Vietnamese leaders.” Hope Trump does not follow his lead and I doubt he will. Now what Sessions does to those who use legalized marijuana is open for discussion.

        1. He’s trolling you all. Davao City has an average homicide rate for a Filipino metropolis. The smart money says the babble about extrajudicial killings is just performance art.

  9. Playing the devil’s advocate, how do torture kill lists, extrajudicial assassinations, and drone strikes killing innocent citizens of a foreign sovereign on which Congress has not declared war differ other than the lipstick on the pig?

    1. If I can find the link of the story Chomsky provided about the jailed journalist who Obama droned, I’ll add it in here. Dutudy is a bum, Obama is the Don.

  10. Marcos will soon look like a hippy after Duterte ends his term, if he doesn’t enact martial law like his predecessor.

  11. Interesting parallel. Took a break from the computer yesterday. Turned on the worthless TV (how can there be SO many TV stations with nothing to offer. TG for the science channel…). Passed by MSNBC (my wife yells as soon as she sees me stop on that station…). Anyway, the pundit actually used this reasoning as a basis for proving Russia hacked the election–his words were along the lines of, “They (meaning the CIA) have a pretty good idea behind it, and they kill people when they have a pretty good idea like that.”
    Is it only me, or is this the same application as Duturdy, or whatever his name is.

    Glass house and all that???

    1. I heard Obama on NPR (I should be yelled at, too) this morning trying to convince people in the US who may “like” Putin to remember that he was employed by the KGB and thwarted democracy and freedom in his country.

      There’s a mouthful of dripping irony.

      1. Steve – knowing that you listened to NPR, I will never be able to see you the same way again. Personally, between who would I trust most? Obama or Putin? I am not sure I could make the choice.

        1. Paul, you may have a point, but I’ve achieved new highs in filtering BS from the subject matter. That perspective POs me, too, but there’s little else and the local news is good through KPBS at San Diego State and KQED in San Francisco, which is my go-to alternative for the arts and esoteric.

          I haven’t put enough effort into finding/connecting with Pacifica Radio on my cell phone. Then again, you’ll probably never view me in the same way listening to Pacifica either. šŸ™‚

          Happy holidays, ol’ goat.

          1. Steve – we have NPR on one station during the day with jazz at night and classical music 24/7 on the other. I listen to the classical station when I am in the car.

        2. Well, Putin seems to be gaining more trust around the world. Seem to write a good bit. They won’t publish his op-eds here… Chattin’ up Israel, Maneuvers with Egypt… Man, he might just be a straight up guy. Maybe he doesn’t assassinate his allies.

        3. Something seriously wrong with your judgement filters if this is a difficult choice for you.

      3. Steve, you SHOULD be yelled at for going to Nominally Public Radio for newz. =) I only listen to them now for features – love “Science Friday” “Car Talk” reruns, “Fresh Air” whenever Terry Gross is NOT hosting, etc.

        1. Autumn: How did Terry Gross incur your wrath? Supporting a Clinton? If so, I feel your pain. It’s the same old comfortable suburban liberal that’s been too lazy over the past eight years.

          Do you have a favored radio station for national news? If you do, let me know what it is, and I’ll check it out. I’m “so sick, so sick” of the red-baiting plugs and other Democratic Party teasers from NPR.

          1. Steve, some years ago I came across “The Middle Mind” by Curtis White. He wrote about the whole Terry Gross delving into pathos that forever changed me. Like Tim Black sez – once you see you cannot unsee. Utimately, White showed how Gross always delved into the interviewees’ most painful situations — NO matter that it had nothing to do with his / her (ze’s??) accomplishments. She digs into terrible things each person has experienced which IMO takes away from their respective accomplishments — esp given their works are not about those life episodes. White irritated so many fans he actually got death threats.

            Since then I cannot listen to her interviews. Hmm, what to listen to on the radio? I have no idea. I just got a slew of “The Teaching Company’s” videos at the last library booksale on everything from literature to biology. So, aside from music that’s what I tune into.

            1. Meant to say DVDs which can be put on CDs.

              Right now listening to: “Books That Have Made History: Books that Can Change Lives” by Prof. J. Rufus Fears.

  12. PaulS, I think the Canadian needs an intervention. He’s made 2 comments so far on this thread and they have nothing to do w/ the topic. It appears Bush Derangement syndrome has mutated to Trump Trauma Disorder.

    1. Nick – I agree, but we cannot doxx him, so where and how would we do it? šŸ™‚

    2. Isaac makes sense…… We are seeing the Trump administration fill up with pro tpp types, Iraq war supporters, investment bankers and oil men. Reminds me of the Bush admin although quite a bit crazier.

      1. On top of all that Cheney is back in the picture counseling Rubio to go along with Trump’s appointees. Here is the most reviled hatchet man in recent American history, the Bush puppeteer, now in the mix. Take a look at what has been slithering out of the woodwork.

  13. Fox News reported that his name is a derivation of two french words: Du terte. Which means The turd.

  14. Obama popularity is over 50% thanks to the boost in the economy by Trump being elected.

    1. Another DDT supporter. Obama has been riding his own successes for the last few years. It took several years to clean up the Republican mess by the three stooges. It will be Trump claiming that he created all the positive results of the moves made by Obama. It takes a year or more for stuff to materialize. Paul your statement places your IQ around 60. Where did you get the idea you had a 150 IQ. Did you make up the test yourself like DDT makes up his medical report, the truth?

      2. issac – Rasmussen says this last little boost is because the economy is getting better. Obama was driving it into the ground. Business optimism is up. Housing optimism is up. The stock market is up. Hopefully my pension is up.

        1. Take a moment out from your sleuthing and sleuth a few statistics. Under Obama unemployment went down from near 10% to 5%. In the past three years wages have been going up, job security has been improving, and worker’s rights have been increasing. The US is light years behind the rest of the developed world regarding the well being of the vast majority of workers. This trend would have continued under Clinton. Trump has appointed people who are against minimum wage, worker’s rights, increasing wages, etc.

          The same false buoyant economy followed Reagan’s BS until the bills came in and the economy fell into the worst recession since the Great Depression. The same thing happened again under Bush. Wall Street loves change regardless of whether it is up or down. So, now the market goes up for no real reason at all except the boys are rolling the dice.

          The only index that moves the economy in real terms is job security. When people feel secure about their jobs they buy things like houses, cars, etc. The optimism that is up has nothing to do with Trump and everything to do with Obama and his eight years of stability. Your vitriol and delusion won’t change statistics and history.

          1. issac – by changing they way they reported unemployment figures they were able to drop the unemployment figures. However, the real unemployment did not go down. It is figured at about 14%

            1. They did not change the way they were reported. The way ‘unemployment’ is defined has been consistent for decades.

              The employment-to-population ratio did decline and the raw number of employed persons is 5% lower than it was in 2007. Some of this is driven by demographic trends (the non-institutional population over 16 has more in the oldest age cohorts).

                1. Paul, they’ve never counted people who identified themselves as being out of the workforce and they’ve enumerated ‘discouraged workers’ for decades.

            2. Exactly Paul. Obama chose to overlook people who were employed part time but looking for full employment as well as those whose benefits had run out. A total fraud.

        2. If a Democrat can get love from Rasmussen, it’s quite an accomplishment. Check your IRA. it should make you happy.

      3. Duterte has been called the Philippine’s Trump. Certainly hope Trump does not shoot drug addicts.

      4. Obama is handing off a good economy to Trump. Obama inherited an economic crash from Bush. Let’s see what Trump does with this.

        1. What began during Bill Clinton’s watch with lender’s making millions of high-risk housing loans actually blew up during Bush’s watch. Trump will have none of the coddling and protection by the media that Obama has enjoyed, but make no mistake, Trump will get things moving in the right direction.

          1. Trump has put investment bankers in power instead of draining the swamp. Why do you think things will turn out better with the same old same old in charge?

            1. It won’t be same old same old. Each of Trump’s appointments is just one piece of a larger picture. Trump thinks strategically. And most importantly, TRUMP is not Obama.

        3. The growth rate for domestic product per capita this business cycle has been 1.31%, the lowest of any business cycle since 1938.

            1. The business cycle began in May 2009. The previous cycle, trough-to-trough, ran from the 4th q of 2001 to the 2d q of 2009. The one prior to that from the 2d q of 1991 to the 4th q of 2001. The one prior to that from the 4th q of 1982 to the 2d q of 1991.

              My data are accurate. I’m just not fool enough to think a quarter-on-quarter improvement is indicative of economic performance. The Bureau of Economic Analysis publishes this data.

        4. After 7 years in a recovery cycle, the federal deficit remains at 2.8% of domestic product and the ratio of federal debt to domestic product is the highest it has been in more than 60 years.

            1. Data are available from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the Bureau of Economic Analysis and the Bureau of the Fiscal Service.

        5. See Casey Mulligan on how the administration’s policies have promoted employment loss.

        6. Again, the employment-to-population ratio is 12% lower than it was in 2007.

          1. A lot of people have retired and are now out of the labor market. There is not much slack in the labor markets. Now, the jobs might not be good jobs but there are jobs. The fed raised the rates because wages have gone up and unemployment has gone down. Help wanted signs are everywhere.

              1. dim – they had been hinting that the rate would be raised in the 4th qt for some time. Some thought they might raise it in the 3rd qt.

              2. Had been signaling a rate increase for months. Ten year went on its own due to market forces. Fed had to catch up.

      5. What successes? The Democrats have been obliterated under Obama. And while Obama inherited a stable Iraq, he leaves the middle east on fire and in shambles for Trump to deal with.

        1. The economy is much better than when Obama took office. Iraq has not been stable since it was invaded and broken. Obama has made mistakes in the mideast for sure. Trump has filled his administration with neocons so I am not looking for things in the mideast to improve are you? He appointed an extreme neocon as ambassador to Israel. Like I said the Trump administration is reminding more and more of Bush’s. Trump’s opposition is going to come from a combination of the libertarians and democrats on foreign policy I hope. Rand Paul appears ready to stand up against some of these neocon appointments.

          1. Dave,
            – Iraq was largely stabilized, due to the surge, by 2008.
            At great cost. Obama made good on his promise to “end the war in Iraq”, and the American military and diplomatic withdrawal under Obama unraveled the benefits of the surge.
            There is a $20 Trillion debt the incoming administration will inherit…that debt roughly doubled during the 8 years of Obama.
            GDP growth is stuck at around 2%….we have a very slow growth economy despite years of massive stimulus.
            The Libyan “Gaddafi must go” intervention destabilized that country.
            Obama did inherit a troubled economy and, through massive deficit spending, has kept it from sinking back into recession.
            With $10 Trillion of additional debt stacked on during his administration.
            Neither candidate spent much time on the debt issue, and it remains to be seen what how the economy will perform during a Trump administration.
            But an honest evaluation of the Obama administration is not nearly as rosy as you make it out to be.

            1. Libya was a horrible mistake and Obama was encouraged in this endeavor by Hillary and Sam Power. He now admits it was mistake.The economy is rosy if one has the right skill set but not so much if one does not. Do you not think that Trump will increase the debt if he is allowed to proceed with massive tax cuts for the wealthy and much needed infrastructure spending? Do you think the freedom caucus should put a stop to his plans and keep the country on an austerity path in order to not increase the debt?

              1. Dave,
                – I think that the debt will keep increasing dramatically in a Trump administration
                As I mentioned, neither candidate seriously discussed slowing the growth of the U.S. debt.
                I view Trump as a “wild card”, in that he has never governed, nor has he been consistent on policy positions.
                He may largely “delegate” policy decision-making to his cabinet and advisors, or he may be more “hands on”.
                Back to the debt/ deficits…we have had extraordinarily low interest rates for the past 8 years, and the debt and annual deficits would be much higher in a normal interest rate environment.
                If the Fed tightens significantly, all bets are off on containing the deficits.
                A $20 Trillion debt serviced with interest rates averaging 1 or 2% is far more “managable” than a $20 Trillion debt serviced at 5-6%.

                1. tnash – the Fed just went up a 1/4 and intends to go up 3/4s in 2017, now that Obama is gone.

                  1. Paul Sculre…- I saw the Fed’s announcements…I think the Fed will proceed very carefully in raising rates…2 or 3 1/4 point raises next year….but they nack off if they see continued weakness in GDP growth.

            2. The stimulus came from the fed as the congress did not provide it. Trump needs the stimulus as the fed raises interest rate due to inflationary trends and low levels of unemployment. Hope the infrastructure spending goes through and he can get gdp up to the 3 percent that Goldman has predicted.

              1. Dave..
                There was both fiscal and monetary stumuli in the Obama administration.
                The Fed was obviously very accomadative on interest rates.
                On the fiscal side, Obama had a couple of major stimulus programs…tax cuts, “shovel ready” ( supposedly )infrastructure spending, large crwdits for homebuyers, etc.

                  1. Dave – wasn’t the problem with ‘shovel-ready’ that nobody had anything that was ‘shovel-ready.’?

          2. Iraq has not been stable since it was invaded and broken.

            Actually, 60% of the country was pacified by the beginning of 2008 and the remainder saw a decline in the clip of violence by more than half. Partisan Democrats lie effortlessly.

              1. Remember when Joe Biden told Larry King that Iraq would be one of Obama’s great achievements? Yeah, not so much.

                “I am very optimistic about — about Iraq. I mean, this could be one of the great achievements of this administration. You’re going to see 90,000 American troops come marching home by the end of the summer. You’re going to see a stable government in Iraq that is actually moving toward a representative government.” Joe Biden

                1. dlm – Joe Biden is the current Oracle of Delphi. He can accurately predict anything.

        2. I would hope you could agree with me that Trump needs to end his bromance with Duterte.

    2. Paul — No, I tObama’s ratings were over 50% well before Trump was elected.

      “(CNN)President Barack Obama’s approval rating stands at 55% in a new CNN/ORC poll, the highest mark of his second term, and matching his best at any time since his first year in office.” This poll was conducted in early October.

      The Gallup poll consistently showed Obama at 51% or above from late July 2016 to present. (http://www.gallup.com/poll/116479/barack-obama-presidential-job-approval.aspx). So your claim that Trump’s election and its affect on the economy is the reason for Obama’s poll numbers if demonstrably false.

  15. I’ve sworn at Obama so that makes him alright in my book. šŸ˜‰ And I think some Cardinals have sworn at this Pope. So that is not a big deal. From the article he says he shoots with his eyes closed, which is never a good idea because you cannot see the target. It seems he does not know if he hit anyone or not.

  17. So does he kill in the name of Catholicism?
    If not specifically in the name of his religion does he expect to be forgiven?
    Where does the Pope stand on this man’s behavior?

  18. These people eat dogs. Yeah. They eat Fluffy and Rover. You expect them to be civilized? Someone ought to tell Pizza Face that consuming dog meat turns your facial skin into something that resembles the surface of the moon.

      1. Tell me–were you just as critical, shocked and taken by a case of the vapors at all the alleged “teens” in the media and elsewhere who, relentlessly and repeatedly, lambasted–and continue to lambast–Trump over his hairstyle, hair color, skin color, etc.? Huh? Of course it’s juvenile to mention this guy’s face full of craters. No doubt about it. Now, send us a copy of the open letter that you penned to all of the major television stations, not to mention, the prominent newspapers, in which you take them to task for relentlessly and constantly portraying and/or mocking Trump’s appearance. After all, I’m quite sure that it exists. After You are the voice of maturity. We’ll wait. Teens are nothing if not patient.

    2. bam bam — Why is eating dogs any more objectionable than eating any other animal?

  19. Well, it’s about time you jumped on the Fake News bandwagon.

    Duterte has an 86% approval rating by the Filipino people – let’s see… Obama 6% – Duterte 86% hmmmm… Duterte has made it clear from the very beginning as the Mayor of Davao that criminals who surrender peacefully are to be arrested, but if anyone resists and displays a weapon they are to be shot, the police are not to jeopardize their lives because of a crazed drug addict/dealer. THIS is what Duterte was trying to display to the police when he went out “looking for trouble”. I don’t think there is a single politician in the US will balls that big. Nobody wants to kill another person unless they have to, including police officers. Duterte wanted the police officers to overcome any hesitancy they might have in such a situation where their lives are in jeopardy. It worked. Very few police (I happen to know some of them) are injured or killed on the job, and drug trafficking has been reduced by 93%!!!!!!!!!! So now Mr. FAKE NEWS let me hear about all the billions in America’s drug wars and how drug trafficking has been stopped. I really want to say some bad stuff about you, Turley, right now, but I don’t want to stoop to your level in the gutter. Maybe you could go to work for ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, Fox, etc…

    1. You must have voted for DDT. Obama’s approval rating is 56%, with 36% disapproving. This is because he did, and continues to do an incredible job in fixing the economy. When you lie like this you take your place with DDT, the world’s most prolific liar. On election day 58% of Americans disapproved of DDT.

  20. I patiently await to read similar outrage over Obama’s private extra-judicial so-called “Kill List” of American citizens. One of the known persons on the list who Obama murdered was a 16 year old American child named Anwar Al-Awlaki.

    What’s up with that, Doc?

    1. No, not Anwar al-Awlaki. He was the father of 16 year-old Abdulrahman Anwar al-Awlaki, who was killed in a CIA airstrike. Obama doesn’t get involved in the CIA’s murder business. He leaves that to the professionals.

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