The Clinton supporters have been campaigning hard to convince electors to switch their votes from Donald Trump to Hillary Clinton. It was a remarkably hypocritical stance for Clinton who repeatedly called Trump’s failure to promise to abide by the election results “horrifying” and unAmerican. Clinton maintained that shocked demeanor all the way up to election night when she found herself the loser. She then broke from tradition and refused to concede that night before her supporters. Her campaign then supported challenges in various states and actively sought to convince electors to switch their votes. Well the results are in and it is rather surprising: Of the 10 electors who did not vote for their designated candidate, eight were actually Clinton electors who refused to vote for her. Only two Trump electors switched and neither voted for Clinton.
Four of the electors who were set to vote for Clinton were in Washington state. Of those, three voted for former Secretary of State Colin Powell, and the fourth voted for Native American tribal leader Faith Spotted Eagle. They each will face $1,000 fines.
The two electors who did not cast their votes voted for Kentucky Sen. Ron Paul and Ohio Gov. John Kasich.
In the meantime, Bill Clinton went public with an interview to continue the spin that his wife lost because of FBI Director James Comey and “fake news.” Once again, he did not point to the fake news that was so decisive in the election since the Wikileaks emails were not fake but real news. However, Clinton added that Trump won because “he does know is how to get angry white men to vote for him.” It is the same identity politics that was pushed by Clinton during the campaign — only now it is the nemesis of white males being blamed for her loss.
The problem is that white males could not and did not secure the election for Trump. According to the New York Times, Clinton carried only 54 percent of the female vote against Donald Trump. However, nearly twice as many white women without college degrees voted for Trump than for Hillary and she basically broke almost even on college-educated white women (with Hillary taking 51 percent). Trump won the majority of white women at 53 percent.
Other Clinton supporters have explained the results by denouncing women as slaves to their “internalized misogyny. So it is either “angry white males” or self-hating women who toppled Hillary Clinton. Of course, there could be a more obvious answer: people really did not like Hillary as a leader regardless of her gender. It may be that the large numbers of women refused to vote for Hillary simply because she was a woman. Clinton and Trump were the most unpopular politicians ever to be nominated for president and over 60 percent of voters viewed Clinton as fundamentally dishonest. None of that stopped the DNC from engineering her victory over Bernie Sanders who presented precisely the populist campaign that many voters were looking for. Clinton had the Democratic establishment and many allies in the media — everyone agreed except the public. That was enough . . . until the voters had their say on November 8th.
What is striking about this story is how leading Democrats still refuse to acknowledge that the party was seriously out of touch with the electorate. Indeed, after securing her own reelection as minority leader, Nancy Pelosi promptly announced that voters really do not “want a new direction.” Yet, after a huge effort to get electors to move against Trump, most moved against Clinton. The Mae sentiments are not likely to pass despite the coordinated effort to blame Comey or white males or self-loathing women. Few people outside of the Clinton core supporters are buying the spin. The question is how steep this learning curve will be for a party that has continued the same leaders on the same course after the electoral defeat.
https://www.thestreet.com/story/13888539/1/thought-trump-would-end-the-oligarchy-not-likely-since-he-s-part-of-it.html “”Donald Trump is and always has been an oligarch,” Jeffrey Winters, a Northwestern University political scientist who specializes in the study of such systems, said in a phone interview. “His primary base of power until this point has been his wealth.”
Indeed, Trump’s entire public image is built around displays of pomp and riches, from his private helicopter, jet, and yacht to his Rolls Royce, mansions, penthouses and high-powered friends.
Although he championed populist causes such as halting free trade, slowing globalization and deporting immigrants, “it’s almost unbelievable that anybody in society would actually think that this oligarch is going to deliver policies that threaten American oligarchs,” Winters said. “There’s no reason to think it.”
Add to this that his sources of income are almost entirely the uber rich. His Dad developed housing for the average income earner. DDT works exclusively for the ilk he is rewarding with cabinet posts and ambassadorships. When it walks like a ……
http://thehill.com/homenews/news/311296-gingrich-trump-doesnt-want-to-drain-the-swamp-anymore LOL… that was fast.
The oligarchs tried to buy Clinton the presidency for $1.2 billion. The oligarchs must be furious losing to the host of Celebrity Apprentice. A guy who had the highest unfavorables in history and who had never even been elected to the PTA before. Nobody wants to accept responsibility for THAT result.
HRC may be done with politics. But many of the highly paid consultants, strategists, operatives, etc. still have careers. For their own self interest they have every incentive to try to convince the oligarchs she lost because of Comey; “fake news”; Russians; the anachronous electoral college, whatever. Anything other than taking responsibility for their own failed campaign.
The true oligarch won by pretending not to be one. As the hedgies say Trump pulled a con on working people. They should know.
Talking-heads painted the Steak-Salesman as an outsider while he bragged numerous times about being an insider. He’s the very swamp he pretends to drain.
The chickens that elected DDT to administer the chicken house unfortunately elected to guard all the chickens. And, DDT is hiring more foxes to help. DDT will be managing the coop with his business like acumen. He will take as much as he can/what the market will bear but not too much at first. The real damage will be done if he gets in for a second term. This is where Reagan screwed the country and Bush topped Reagan. Americans like their entertainment. DDT will be more entertaining than watching Clinton continue the recovery of the economy and the advancement of the American dream. But then that’s what almost half of Americans want, to be entertained. Just look at the tan and the hair. Review some of the BS DDT spewed during the campaign. Nobody likes a boring leader. Well he does sever for material. How comedic is yet to be seen. So far it has been more tragedy than comedy.
The only positive thing that will come out of this is that America will again show itself to be bigger than its leaders. It showed that with Reagan and that mess. It showed it with Bush the idiot, thanks to Obama, next the buffoon and his mess will be cleaned away from the memories and we will probably get another even bigger fool, if that is possible. Compare and contrast, Republicans bring us the idiots, no disputing that.
LOL! Trump obviously didn’t get ALL the angry w/m votes.
I’m afraid ambassadors are becoming more like future Archdukes.
We shall see what happens in Turkey.
I’ve noticed more folks are saying Merry Christmas with a smile this year, Merry Christmas to all the socialist, Marxist and closet commi losers. Hilly was going to win heeheehee.
Merry Mythmas (giant smile).
Well, at least we can now look forward to individuals assigned as ambassadors based upon merit and not how much loot they could bundle for election campaigns.
And the eradication of nepotism is welcome as well. It’s great to see that his kids won’t utilize their father’s position to lubricate international deals.
I would not wager too much money on that.
Yeah, like Friedman, DDT’s appointment to Israel: funds illegal settlements in the West Bank, is a rabid zionist, is against the two people state, reported $50,000 contribution to DDT’s campaign-how much not reported, has been DDT’s best pal for 40 years, was and probably still is DDT’s bankruptcy lawyer-the best pal who made DDT hundreds of millions through going bankrupt or screwing the people that didn’t get paid, one wonders exactly what Friedman knows about DDT’s taxes and bankruptcies-the one’s that we don’t get to see. Yeah, DDT is all about merit.
Not to mention Flynn who was axed by Obama at the request of his own co-workers and lies almost as much as DDT. The term Flynn facts is due to the fact that half of what he says is delusional.
Check out the rest of DDT’s appointments, Clinton has nothing on DDT. DDT is the yugest liar to make it to Washington ever. The fact of the matter is that Clinton comes across as a white background where her stains stick out and are easily identified and targeted. DDT’s background is solid stain therefore nothing stands out. DDT is a pathological liar and cheat but no one notices as his sheep simply accept that.
One thing is indisputable, DDT won by focusing anger at Clinton, not his own merits, unless for less than half of voters, mindless angst is seen as a merit.
They seem to see Clinton’s corruption but are blinded by Trump’s. Remember what he said about being able to shoot someone on 5th Avenue.
They seem to see Clinton’s corruption but are blinded by Trump’s.
That is the nub of the problem. Both tribes.
Yeah, what did he say about that, Joe? What was the exact quote and context? FFS.
Rachel Maddow, Joy-Ann Reid and Amanda Marcotte, my favorite excuse making, petulant
Debbie Double Downers.
The irony is sooo sweet.
Congratulations to Donald Trump, Mike Pence, Exxon Mobil and Goldman Sachs. You have managed to convince the little people that you are on our side. Hillary did not even pretend to be on our side. I sincerely hope big OIL and the bankers and hedge fund guys do better this time. They do have the power.
Interesting that other than Donald and Mike, you could have congratulated the exact same people regardless of outcome.
Yes, they always had influence but more billionaires, OIL Men, and Goldman Sachs officials actually will be in the cabinet, and that is a fact. Being a billionaire or a general almost seems a requirement. Being an over 60 white male seems to be one too. Do the research. Other administrations relied more on academics and think tanks to fill their ranks. This is the farthest right group of billionaires to be chosen in all of history. Trump did run on draining the swamp and the opposite has occurred. I think people with some investments that are not reliant on government services like Medicare will do okay for the most part. Enjoy the Trump party and I will try not to interrupt the celebration. 🙂
Think that those that live in blue states like California will fare better as those states will keep some level of social services and provide a barrier against draconian laws concerning women’s healthcare.
Joe, we could haggle over minutia all day and frankly, that is the problem when one takes a hard cold look at what the Democratic party has become and what the DNC up-chucked as the only choice we were allowed for a so-called progressive choice of candidate. Over the last 20 years, they have managed to turn the term itself into a vile insult. Someone who is willing to go to war at the drop of the hat, create fake scandals about hacking, cheat in every manner possible – yet we sit around quibbling about academics and think tanks that are deep in the billionaires pockets vs. the billionaires themselves.
That’s depressing to me, it absolutely justifies the contempt we get from the right.
I am old enough to be a McGovernit BB. Believe me I got plenty of flack from the right back then. We were called every name in the book. Does not seem to matter. We will always take flack from the right. The problem this time was the well deserved flack from the left. For now I will work for candidates in my progressive community. Ranked choice has caught on here so it is not r vs d. We must keep our sanctuary cities save. 🙂
My point about Trump is that he is not cleaning out the swamp as he said. Watch what politicians do not what the say. Bernie might have and Clinton was deep in the swamp so of course she would not have.
I hear you. It was the mention of Goldman Sachs which gives more corrupt money to Demorats than to Rethugs that got me.
I suppose it’s fair to point out the swamp, but I must say anyone who ever imagined for a moment (other than rhetorically) that Trump would clear the swamp needs to see me post haste about an absolutely FANTASTIC deal on a bridge I just happen to have. The swamp clearing, btw, was quickly and easily disposed of as pure campaign malarkey by just about every site around within 15 minutes of the time it first popped out of Trump’s mouth, except, of course, the Baghdad Bob and Tokyo Rose prop. outlets who are truly Bipartisan, or, highest bidder, when exercising that particular comedic art form.
Several sites, such as Counterpunch, ran articles that made serious attempts to gauge which Trump ephemera agreeable to both sides would be likely to subsequently stick in Trump’s mind.
1) A more peaceful (or business oriented) relationship with Russia (just about anything would qualify as more peaceful than what Hillary had in mind)
2) A break on the toxic (and totally secret – until recently ) trade deals that take away our national sovereignty
3) A different model than, Empire At Any Cost in the MIddle East.
So far, Trump’s choices are somewhat frightening on all of those things and I would have suspected those on the left to go after them rather than whole-cloth hacking as if it is something new or out of the ordinary or truly hair brained schemes obviously cooked up by the Clinton camp to thwart the Electoral College or whacked out groups that are so paranoid all they can manage to articulate is, “Faciest”, over and over.
But even more than sour grapes, I was (and am) hoping to see the beginnings of a discussion regarding what should be done regarding the demise of Democrat party, what can be done to create a party that represents the people rather than the corporate interests, a fair nomination processes, and so on. That is the closest we can come to actually cleaning out the swamp.
At a bare bare minimum, it seems only fitting that the Democrats, liberals and progressives would start the process of introspection, rather than simply tearing the country apart with their own brand of McCarthyism.
Akk! forgot to close the bold directive. Darn, I wish there was an edit feature.
Actually this year the investment bankers supported Clinton and the hedge funds supported Trump. Now he has them all.:)
“Other administrations relied more on academics and think tanks to fill their ranks.”
Good point! It’s about time we had an administration that actually competent at governance.
Perhaps you are right…..Maybe Goldman and Exxon CEOS will prove to be better than those pointy headed academics. The investment bankers and hedge funds have always been behind the scene so having them out front might just be the solution to good governance.;)
You missed the portion of the campaign which disclosed Hillary took millions from Goldman & other banks for 30 minute speeches. Do you really believe they gave this money without the expectation that Bill & Hillary would take care of them.
Absolutely not, but we knew that didn’t we? Trump campaigned against Goldman and turned around and made three of their officials his earliest hires. What do you think about that?
I thought, “hardly surprising.” Seriously, just about everyone agreed that both candidates were deeply flawed. That was certainly the case on this site. The notion that we can hold Trump up to some high standard now, or that we are “shocked, shocked – I tells ya”, is nonsense. He was specifically chosen as the easy monster bogyman for Hillary to beat, so suddenly claiming he should be the honest prince is disingenuous. The reason the left aligned with the right is because Hillary would take us below anything acceptable (such as all out nuclear war with Russia) under any circumstances, not because anyone for a single moment imagined Trump to be telling the truth. Po-leaze.
I think Trump has true believers here. Go to any blog post about Muslims and you will find them. 😉
Or on a post about Trayvon Martin or the confederate flag.
Yes he does. But some are true believers in the sense they simply want Trump to get the same fair deal we would insist on if (I just can’t get “hillary” out of my mouth) some decent progressive candidate had been nominated and had won the election fair and square under the same rules that applied for everyone before and after the election took place.
They have witnessed the most amazing onslaught of down right dangerous temper-tantrums possibly in our history and it’s only reasonable they would react with a certain amount of circling of the wagons.
As to the last remark about Muslims, I think it’s unjustified. Every site seems to have some people with those issues, this one fewer than many. What you will find here is an awareness of how immigration law -or lack of one – is used and abused to depress workers wages and ability to find work.
Olly,
My thoughts too. I find it humorous that people point to something different as bad while ignoring what they believe to be good, is what got us to this current sad state of affairs.
And the new labor secretary is against the minimum wage and overtime pay. 😞
Our job should be to let what ever may grow out of the ashes of the Democrat party know that we will continue to insist on real progressives and real choices in our elections until they produce them. Should they continue to provide us with fake Republicans we will continue to choose the real ones.
Good, minimum wage is silly. Let the market decide what a burger flipper should be paid.
The puppeteers have always had the power. But they do prefer an easier puppet. That’s why the mantra has been so harsh against Trump.
But as the rinse cycle ends, I am afraid we are set to lose our alternative media. (Never let a good crisis go to waste). May our Constitution not end up in the dustbin of history.
The question is how steep this learning curve will be for a party that has continued the same leaders on the same course after the electoral defeat.
The Democrat party is beyond revival. The Clinton’s led the charge against the last vestiges of the New Deal Democrats and turned the party from something honorable to a sneaky, corrupt, pay to play
Trojan horse exploiting workers and the middle class in the most hypocritical way for the benefit of the 0.1%.. Their foreign policy alone has caused potentially more damage to the human race than global warming itself, and Obama has sealed that history with his own neoliberal and neoconservative efforts.. Beyond out-roving Carl Rove, there is nothing the Democrat party can learn from this election as they are demonstrating right now by trying to out do the party of Joe McCarty with the most vile anti-democratic aspects of American fear mongering. The country needs an honest and honestly progressive party.
Joe McCarty-> Joe McCarthyDon’t you ever preefrood before you hit the Post Comment button, Brooklin?
Just testing you, Tiger; good catch! 🙂
Thank God. This country would not have survived Hillary
Two folks: Tim Black and HA Goodman have been incredible throughout this horrid election. A welcome non partisan POV away from the inane lamestream media (and that includes TYT and DemocracyNow who caved to HRC):
I must agree with Nick and/or Paul; your videos are outrageously good and on point!
Clinton lost because she lost. That’s all there is to it.
(Fake news, Russia, the media, and conspiratorial uncles sought to influence the election: nothing new. Hacking, however, should be addressed, as it is a bipartisan problem.)
Unfortunately the Steak-Salesman remains an apathetic buffoon. He whines for weeks about a rigged election and then, post-election, claims millions of people voted illegally. And then he complains that people actually question the election! Well I wonder why.
So he now boasts that it doesn’t matter because the gold-toileted, wanna-be pharaoh won. Shouldn’t he, being the most presidential, want to correct the system if not for now then for after his term in office, for the legitimacy of future elections? No, of course not. His lies were just tools for rattling his base. (At the very least he could dispatch his birther investigators, who discovered just amazing stuff.)
SS Trump knows as much about the Constitution as Governor Perry understands irony. This should be a far greater concern than the opinions of either Clinton.
When you say “hacking, however, should be addressed…”, do you mean US hacking of foreign elections which has been going on via the CIA since 1948, or do you mean hacking by other countries since they virtually all do it, or do you mean some effort to require our government to provide actual proof of such hacking when they make such claims for purely political ends? So far, we have nothing but anonymous allegations, allegations, of possible hacking but by players we can’t even identify by agencies that have a known and provable history of messing with foreign elections themselves. Yet we apparantly still have a considerable population that will swallow these allegations hook, line and stinker as long as it is for their tribe even know they know full well that the MSM does virtually nothing but lie..
even know they know-> even though they knowHacking is a problem generally. And clearly the DNC was hacked by someone. Russia and China are hitting our systems incessantly as we are them; so again, it should escape partisanship.
In terms of evidence, of course more information should be released.
Clearly the DNC was hacked by someone
What’s clear about it? Because you saw it on the main stream media news? Because the WaPo says it got allegations from anonymous sources in the CIA that may or may not be real at all? Because Hillary says so? Because Obama sort-a kind-a says so and then says we’ll get even? Because it’s too hard to do any research on it at all and find out that the most likely scenario is STILL an internal leak?
Oh yes, because the bad ol Russians made hacks that informed the American people about emails that are completely TRUE? Because you’re hoping that internet sites that don’t agree with your pov will be shut down? Cause that’s where they’re going with this, even if you are not.
When you say “hacking, however, should be addressed…”, do you mean US hacking of foreign elections which has been going on via the CIA since 1948,
You’ve been asked to provide an example of this, and you fail. Why not just quit lying?
Glancing around, I can’t find anyone asking me to provide an example and anyway, I don’t do assignments.
But in the event you are challenged in formulating a simply query on the internet all by yourself, copy the next sentence and then paste it in the query box of a search engine such as Google.
CIA history of meddling in foreign elections and regimes
Hit the return key.
Presto and Bravo; all sorts of answers! Here’s one of them in case any of that was too technical:
http://www.fff.org/2016/11/03/washingtons-meddling-foreign-elections/
Oh yes, the date “1948” should indicate to you (well to most) that my use of the term, hacking predates the internet and can include all manner of meddling, including but not confined to electronic, media manipulation and so on. But there is plenty of evidence of Hacking in the modern sense as well, such as Stuxnet used on Iran, or the CIA admitting hacking/spying on the US congress, though knowing how to use a query box and hit the return key is most helpful.
It hurts doesn’t it well we have been in that same prison cell for 8 yrs. let’s see what our new President will do .
It’s like quicksand. The more one struggles the worse it gets. Admit you screwed up, relax and float to the top.
Just stop blaming everybody else. It’s so much like the symptoms of an addict and the addict’s family.
It’s interesting how this election seemed to almost parallel the recent “Madam Secretary” episodes.
It’s also interesting that with Obama nearing the end of his tenure there are more and more reports of defections by his “loyal” friends.
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A most fitting response–Clinton being the biggest loser.
Despite the claim of the so called Hamiltonians, the purpose of the Electoral College is to not assign a system of electors who vote on behalf of their own conscious thoughts and opinions. It is instead to prevent tyrannies of a few largely populated states from dominating the selection of a president at the expense of many small states. This is one of the reasons for having a bicameral Congress, one for representing each person, the other for representation of each state equally.
This entire affair was organized by democrat operatives at high levels to sew seeds of discord, keep themselves “relevant” in the national media, and continue the rhetoric that President-Elect Trump is an existential threat of which can only be dispatched by the vanguard Democrats.
Why should we not expect this national party to have respect for the system of federally elective government, that we’ve had for over two hundred years, when the party leadership completely usurped any candidate challenging Clinton during the primary season. They electioneered Hillary Clinton’s victory, and this and numerous other contributing factors led to her loss of the election.
The disgust was so great with Clinton, the only way the democrat leadership could possibly succeed was to both destroy any competition with her party peers and to craft Trump into the ideal loathsome candidate: an evil incarnation second only to the worst historical despots known. And, right on cue, they conjured this entire electoral college outrage. Well, it backfired–she was the one who had more faithless electors go against her–just as her entire campaign of alienation and sleaze backfired when the American people threw her to the curb.
That is why this is such a fitting response and outcome to this whole affair.
Now that the electoral college usurpation attempt failed worse than they expected, what’s next–pressuring the Chief Justice to refuse to swear in Donald Trump as President? Given the asininity behind the far left and democrat leadership’s behavior recently it is certainly possible.
What other boogiemen can be blamed by the democrat leadership for Hillary’s defeat? All those previous have previously been unconvincing and certainly unproven, so what will it be? The Chinese? Boy Scouts? Dead Raccoons? Photons?
Now what we can probably expect is a non-stop effort of the democrat leadership and the far left to insert themselves into every aspect they can by manufacturing threats to the people, the locus of which is Donald Trump. If we see good change occur in our country as the result of many people performing admirably for everyone’s benefit, these disruptive actors will continue the cry wolf and lay pipelines of sewage to muddy up any brighter future for which we may enjoy. And, they will look even more ridiculous than they have in the last year.
As long as the democrats’ leadership and its liberal sycophants continue to keep their heads buried in the sand and further alienate their traditional supporters such as working families and such, and instead embrace these idiot social justice warriors, special snowflakes, corrupt politicians, corporate sponsors, foreign despots, and radicals that no average person in America respects, then four years from now if things improve and the democrats did nothing for the average person then they will lose more elections and wield less influence.
In our state thirty-three percent of the democrat’s electors acted faithlessly. It shows how totally disgusted people are with the democrats, even in their own party! Though it is illegal in our state for presidential electors to disobey their oath–pursuant to RCW 29A.56.340–such violations only carry a thousand dollar civil penalty.
A thousand dollars? Bah, it would be worth a thousand dollars just to slap the Democratic Party in the face. I don’t believe in breaking oaths, but when the democrats declared themselves to be so sanctimonious that one could break their oath of office and usurp the legitimate system of elections we presently have; when one of their own electors goes rogue…good for him! Give those idiots a taste of their own medicine! That was glorious in my book.
It’s worthwhile to watch this party founder so soundly. After foisting upon the American people one of the most corrupt presidential candidates in modern history, the only tribute the democratic party leadership deserve is schadenfreude.
So well said, thank you!
Word of the year for Democrats: asininity. Word of the year for Republicans: schadenfreude.
Who even mentions the rigged voting machines, and illegal votining for Hillary, when the Mainstream Media Disinformation (Fake News) promoted the Lie that Hellery won the “Popular Vote”….
“37% of the Detroit Precincts Cast More Votes Than Registered Voters All for Hillary”
No problem with political correctness getting trashed.
My problem is we are a constitutional democracy and most if not all of Trump’s cabinet believes in fundemental Christian doctrine, which for openers opposes the LGBT community and especially the T portion thereof.
That is both seriously flawed Christian propaganda and unsupported by either the Constitution or the First Amendment.
Bathrooms (outhouses) were hardly an issue for the Founders and modern facilities truly Warrent no enhanced concerns.
‘brucerealtor’ –
“Most if not all of Trump’s cabinet believes in fundamental Bill of Rights doctrine” (fixed it for ya, there).
A member of my extended circle of family and friends is post-op Transgender and voted for Trump. WHY? “Because nobody is gonna stop you from using any bathroom you belong in as long as you’re carrying a gun” (with apologies to Archie Bunker, “All In The Family”).
So quit ‘yer whining, and look into “Pink Pistols”, a gay gun rights organization in the USA and Canada:
http://www.pinkpistols.org.
“31 states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. “
–. Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000.
And these days in Arizona, where the freedom of the Wild West still survives, and thanks to a Republican state legislature, anyone can legally carry a gun concealed even without a permit.
Concealed carry laws were designed to protect cops and business owners from armed criminals. Sort of defeats the purpose to penalize that part of the population who would never harm cops or rob businesses.
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They are still in bully mode. They have bullied the last 8 years and remain propagating the lie that everyone is progressive therefore you better get in the program and go along with the community collective. That no longer works when you have lost power. No one is any longer intimidated; no one will buy these lies; they haven’t figured it out yet. The new power is pointing out the lies, dragging the media against its group think will that is allied with the Democrat losers. The tables have turned. Eight years of political correctness is being flushed down the toilet!