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Transgender Texas Wrestling Star Raises Difficult Questions Over Competition Rules For Students On Steriods

There is an ongoing controversy over the new wrestling champion of Euless Trinity High School, Mack Beggs, 17.  Beggs was born a girl but is now a transgender boy taking testosterone as part of his treatment.  However, the UIL Wrestling State Tournament officials decided that Beggs would still compete as a girl despite the fact that he is taking steroids that have bulked him up in a way that would be normally a banning offense.

Beggs is 110 pounds and has been met by some boos by those who view the decision as unfair to the girls who have to play against someone who has added considerable muscle through doses of testosterone.  The decision however was not Beggs but the state’s governing body which requires him to compete as a girl.  The result is a lawsuit seeking to ban Beggs from competition as a girl next year.

The more than 600 Texas school district superintendents voted last year to determine gender by birth certificate — a decision that contradicts NCAA policy and International Olympic Committee guidelines.
The decision on how to handle transgender athletes has presented difficult issues for schools.  It seems that the one clearly wrong answer is to force girls to compete against a player who is taking steroids and bulking up as a transition to a male.  This seems pretty unfair to the female competitors.  That leaves a couple of choices. One would be to require competition as a boy in such cases.  However, there is also the questions raised when a boy transitions as a girl and thus has more physical muscle mass.  Likewise, you could prevent any students from competing while taking steroids for any purpose or at least high levels of steroids.  Yet, such exclusion rules can make will make if clearly more difficult for transgender students who are seeking to participate in sports and clubs as part of their new identity.
What do you think?

167 thoughts on “Transgender Texas Wrestling Star Raises Difficult Questions Over Competition Rules For Students On Steriods”

    1. They were not pretending to be a gender other than the one to which they were born. They were enhancing their bods to compete.

      1. Nancy: “They were not pretending to be a gender other than the one to which they were born.”

        It’s really sad that you don’t get it. I was discussing this concept with some of the attendees at TransCon yesterday, and what we came up with is that since most people never question the “gender they were born with,” they can’t understand that genitals don’t necessarily make a gender identity. After all, once you’ve reached adulthood, if you’ve got breasts and a vagina, most people will treat you as a woman without a second thought, just as your parents (who are aware of your genitalia) did when you were young, dressing you in dresses and perhaps braiding your hair or providing other “clues” to what your gender is supposed to be. Likewise, after a boy is encouraged to engage in sports, go fishing with dad, or is provided other male gender clues, if he has a beard, no breasts and shorter hair, most people will treat him as male. But what if, deep in your mind, you don’t feel natural doing traditionally male things, dressing in shirts and slacks or jeans, and a whole host of other “clues” that reaffirm your genital gender? Such is the case with transsexuals, and their feelings of their gender identity are just as strong as yours are about your gender identity. The fact that you can’t imagine that others who may look like you don’t necessarily feel like you is sad.

        1. Nancy: “They were not pretending to be a gender other than the one to which they were born.”

          It’s really sad that you don’t get it. I was discussing this concept with some of the attendees at TransCon yesterday, and what we came up with is that since most people never question the “gender they were born with,” they can’t understand that genitals don’t necessarily make a gender identity. After all, once you’ve reached adulthood, if you’ve got breasts and a vagina, most people will treat you as a woman without a second thought, just as your parents (who are aware of your genitalia) did when you were young, dressing you in dresses and perhaps braiding your hair or providing other “clues” to what your gender is supposed to be. Likewise, after a boy is encouraged to engage in sports, go fishing with dad, or is provided other male gender clues, if he has a beard, no breasts and shorter hair, most people will treat him as male. But what if, deep in your mind, you don’t feel natural doing traditionally male things, dressing in shirts and slacks or jeans, and a whole host of other “clues” that reaffirm your genital gender? Such is the case with transsexuals, and their feelings of their gender identity are just as strong as yours are about your gender identity. The fact that you can’t imagine that others who may look like you don’t necessarily feel like you is sad.

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          LOL………….. I do woodworking, know more about sports than many men, excelled in a business field which, at the time, was dominated by men.I played sports. Though I wore suits and dresses in my professional life, I changed into Levis as soon as possible.I also am very comfortable with my gender. I am not that all unusual among females.say this only to point out your stereotype of females is not at all spot on

          BTW, I would agree that a parent(s) do try to shape their children by how they dress them and to what activities they introduce. Mothers whose babies did not line up with their desired choice of sex have been dressed per the accepted style and provided toys and introduced to things thought of interest to that gender.

          The fact is, there are a variety of reasons a boy might “feel like what he thinks a girl is suppose to feel”, but few are caused by mutated DNA. I don’t doubt the strong feelings. However, I feel the best way to help these people is to help them understand how they came to this place of identity. Actually, it is something all people should come to understand before they leave this life …………… and that has to do with identity — not merely gender identity.

  2. I am no misogynist, but come on. Genders are the same until they conveniently aren’t, huh? The rhetoric we live through every day has probably wasted enough energy and resources to fix the world several times over. Enough, already. Use your damned brains, people. Life isn’t always fair, and politically correct mommies and daddies have lied to you your entire lives.

  3. The decision on how to handle transgender athletes has presented difficult issues for schools.

    Like the man said (about 35 years ago): society gets a drizzle of dumb little laws when it neglects the big wise laws of life.

    While we’re at it, why is there such a thing as ‘girls wrestling’???

      1. I’d long thought that much of progtrash public policy had a motive similar to vandalism. Thanks for the admission against interest.

        1. Thanks for confirming what I have long suspected: that your ideological blinders render you clueless. You actually thought I was serious? My remark was intended to be as intellectually hobbled as was the question to which it is a reply.

    1. Yep. Half a generation ago, Ann Coulter offered the hypothesis that the multiplication of ‘fancy learning disabilities’ was a sociological phenomenon: a mollification of professional class parents having trouble processing their child’s mediocre school performance. I’d wager the ever shizzier definition of ‘autism’ has some of its origins in that as well.

      1. Mann Coulter should be able to offer some insight as to what it’s like to be transgender, as well as learning disabled.

        1. She’s a graduate of Cornell and the University of Michigan Law School, so the learning disabilities didn’t hold her back much.

  7. You cannot give a competitor a PED advantage, I don’t care which gender she was to be allowed to wrestle with.

  8. Taking steroids has its advantages. Worth every penny…Until you get caught cheating.
    Alex Rodriguez says he’s sorry. Which sorry is it? Sorry I got caught?

    1. That would be a good solution, IMHO. The problem is that transgender whiners are told over and over that they “really are” the sex they wish they were, to the point that they believe it (or at least pretend they do). When trans people are offered an alternative that does not completely validate them as the sex they wish they were, and reminds them of the fact that they actually are the sex they were born as, they start crying “transphobia.” They want their way and will settle for nothing that “others” them. Transgender-only athletic events remind them that they are not the sex they want to be. Using the nurse’s bathroom at school reminds them they are not the sex they want to be. These things are therefore abusive and unacceptable.

      During the recent Women’s March on Washington, males who claim to be women cried “transphobia” over women marching with posters depicting or mentioning a uterus or XX chromosomes. They also demanded that women not wear the pink hats which symbolize female genitalia. It’s so sad how third-wave feminists go along with this and let men tell them how to set up their feminism to benefit men.

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  11. If merely claiming that I am a girl would put me in the same shower at the same time as Taylor Swift, where do I sign up?

    1. antonio – putting me in the shower room with the high school’s girls was all I needed in high school. 😉

      1. Why didn’t think of this when I was sixteen?

        Oh, wait. I am sixteen. And a Syrian refugee.

    3. The line forms behind me in which it’s illegal for Scarlett Johansson to shower without me.

      Move along, people. Nothing to see here.

  12. I do not think they should be allowed to compete in physical sports while taking drugs above the normal level. There is always chess, debate, FFA, drama, choir, etc.

  13. http://www.wnd.com/2016/08/johns-hopkins-shrinks-warn-against-going-transgender-with-kids/

    Johns Hopkins shrinks warn against kids going transgender
    McHugh, Mayer: Little scientific evidence for ‘born that way’ theory

    Mayer is a scholar-in-residence in the Department of Psychiatry at Johns Hopkins University and a professor of statistics and biostatistics at Arizona State University.

    McHugh is a professor of psychiatry and behavioral sciences at the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine and was for 25 years the psychiatrist in chief at the Johns Hopkins Hospital.

    1. Transgenderism is a mental disease with a 41% suicide rate and about 70% of the survivors reversing their feelings and returning to their biological identity.

      1. Just perhaps, I could be wrong, but might the suicide rate be so high because of societies condemnation of them? Yes, even in today’s environment (as the comments on this page show) many people are quite vocal about how weird transgender is.

        1. “Yes, even in today’s environment (as the comments on this page show) many people are quite vocal about how weird transgender is.”

          What’s weird is the settled science of gender that should now be questioned because of some mysterious force happening between one’s ears. Using that logic, forget the physical evidence in question, climate change deniers have a legitimate argument simply because they feel they are right.

  14. The decision on how to handle transgender athletes has presented difficult issues for schools.
    This is not difficult. The student in question is female until a DNA (chromosome) test shows otherwise. A male soldier looses his genitals in combat. He is still male. YOU can call yourself whatever you wish but medical treatment will be based on reality.

    1. That’s the rule in Texas. The issue is the steroid injections which increase mass and hence wrestling strength, thereby ruining the competition.

      1. He is. Over 300 prophecies in His Word have come true already.
        I would not ‘bet’ my life on it if I were you.
        But if you are still holding on to the fairytale, that you share a common ancestor with chimps, bananas and turnips (Dawkins),
        Science has moved on…showing DNA/genome pointing to intelligent information=Intelligent Design. That’s why 55% of atheist are BELIEVING in the possibility of ALIENS. In other words anyone but GOD.

        2. Darwin, not Dawkins, LOL. Please cite your sources for your “scientific” proof of intelligent design.

    2. No kidding. Not to mention that allowing this girl to wreck her body in conformity with a mental disorder is nothing less than child abuse.
      I will ask again: If she’s 5’5″ and weighs 100 lbs, and believes she is obese, do we agree with her desire to have a gastric bypass?

  16. If the meds are an analog of what is used in performance enhancing drugs then it might pose a disqualification.

    On another matter, how often does this happen? Is it really necessary go for the There ‘ought to be a Law Against thatTM meme.

    1. The girl turning boy was 54-0 with several competitors forfeiting to avoid potential injury in the regionals. Houston we have a problem.

    2. Conversely, there are so few true transgenders, does there have to be a law? or executive order?

      1. Nancy: “Conversely, there are so few true transgenders, does there have to be a law? or executive order?”

        That’s right: Bash the minority. Didn’t your parents teach you better?

        1. Nancy: “Conversely, there are so few true transgenders, does there have to be a law? or executive order?”

          That’s right: Bash the minority. Didn’t your parents teach you better?

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          Not bashing anyone, Mark. I learned early that the enacting a law should be the last resort in solving a problem. This is especially true when the “problem” involves different cultural or moral views. Expecting positive results by forcing a person to either change their cultural/moral has a long history of failure.

          By the way, why do you feel the need to make personal denigrating remarks? Just curious. My parents taught me to have respect for others and not fear if their ideas differed from mine. I would always have the opportunity to learn. I was also taught to question and to think for myself. I enjoy hearing differing views – even from those who insult me.

  17. Has this guy been castrated? I don’t know if the female wrestlers would enjoy rubbing up against some creep with a boner.

    1. Considering that the individual was born female, I don’t believe castration is necessary.

      1. Hugh is exactly the type of person that is keeping us in the dark ages. Far better to believe in alternate facts than face reality. It is sooooo much easier.

  18. Since the testosterone used in gender transition is about normal for a male in puberty, and not usually in superclinical levels, it’s only fair to let this athlete compete with the boys. I know there could be other sexual issues, such as with parents not wanting their boys to wrestle with someone who has female anatomy, however those concerns can be somewhat addressed by the natural supervision that wrestling practice always has.

  19. The solution to this problem is simple. In any competition, the playing rules must be fair and level. Consequently, the solution is that no testosterone injections or absorption through other means can be permitted, regardless of the reason. Simple. Fair. Easy. End of story.

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