Rand Paul Calls For Congress To Demand War Powers Authorization . . . John McCain Says Paul Is “Wrong” and Alone In The Senate

I have been discussing how the Congress is again willfully ignoring its constitutional duty on the declaration of war as our intervention in Syria expands.  Democratic leaders like Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer have fallen over each other to praise the attacks even though Congress never authorized the action.  Hillary Clinton was calling for attacks in Syria just hours before the attack, as she did in Iraq, Libya and other past conflicts.  The United States just attacked a foreign nation that had not attacked the United States.  It was done with little consultation and no authorization from Congress.  However, as with prior wars, the attacks remain politically popular so Congress is silent with the exception of a few members like Sen. Rand Paul.  Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) however has gone further to denounce Paul as simply “wrong” and virtually mock him as a nonentity in calling for such congressional authority.  He is alone in the Senate, McCain insisted, in his demand that Congress fulfill its Article I duties. It is a sad moment for those who believe in a textualist or formalist approach to constitutional powers.  All of those textualists who proudly embraced Neil Gorsuch are now apparently living constitutionalists as the subject turns to yet another war.

James Madison once said “the executive is the department of power most distinguished by its propensity to war: hence it is the practice of all states, in proportion as they are free, to disarm this propensity of its influence.” As shown by the Syrian strikes (and passivity of Congress) wars are popular and can bring accolades to “strong leaders.”  However, our politicians have shown that it is not simply the executive branch that is “most distinguished by its propensity to war” but also the legislative branch.  Politicians however want to enjoy the popularity of wars without shouldering the responsibility should the war go badly. Thus, few of our hundreds of military interventions have been the result of declarations or even specific authorizations.

 McCain, the chairman of the Armed Services Committee, refused to even respond to Paul’s principled demand for congressional authorization by saying “I don’t really react to Sen. Paul.”  He added that Paul “doesn’t have any real influence in the United States Senate . . . I don’t pay any attention frankly to what Sen. Paul says.”

The same might be said about what Article I says.

245 thoughts on “Rand Paul Calls For Congress To Demand War Powers Authorization . . . John McCain Says Paul Is “Wrong” and Alone In The Senate”

  1. Obama had converted the executive branch into a corrupt spying/disruption operation directed at his political enemies, years ago, and when Trump came into view, he was fully in the target scope.
    _____________

    Annnnnnndddd… here we go again!

    Da Libruls! Da Libruls! Da Libruls! Da Libruls! Da Libruls! Da Libruls!

    No matter what happens, it’s always someone else’s fault, especially a Republican’s… hey, Pat?

    No Russian connection? What sort of parallel universe do you live in?

    1. Well, obviously, I live in the universe where no evidence of a Russian connection has been produced. The same one where we now know that the whole bureaucracy was essentially an opposition research branch of the Democrat machine. Everyone knows this. Have you been reading the news?

  2. Partisanship again and again! Turley ignores the 180 degree turns of Republicans like Ryan and McConnell.

    1. Ryan could call the House back in session to debate the actions in Syria at any time should he chose to. Some members of congress including my rep are asking him to do just that but I doubt he will.

  3. “War is just a racket. A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of people. Only a small inside group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few at the expense of the masses.

    I believe in adequate defense at the coastline and nothing else. If a nation comes over here to fight, then we’ll fight. The trouble with America is that when the dollar only earns 6 percent over here, then it gets restless and goes overseas to get 100 percent. Then the flag follows the dollar and the soldiers follow the flag.

    I wouldn’t go to war again as I have done to protect some lousy investment of the bankers. There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket.”

    Major General Smedley Butler, 1933

    https://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.html

    1. “Linda Graham” LOL! Barry Manilow came out of the closet to a chorus of “Duh!” When does Linda come out? NTTAWWT.

      1. Can you maintain a policy disagreement with Lindsey Graham without making personal assaults on him? It’s not as if he’s one of the louts who populate this combox.

  4. Trump is merely following orders, as so many presidents before him have done. In the end, they ALL follow the orders of the Military Industrial Complex (MIC) that President Eistenhower warned America about before he left office. President Kennedy, the next President after Eisenhower, took that warning very seriously and he actually opposed the MIC when they wanted war. This greatly angered the MIC and they surely said to themselves, “Who is this young punk Kennedy to tell us what to do?” And so, November 22, 1963 happened, and the MIC was back in charge with Lyndon Johnson to follow orders. Thus began the decades long Vietnam War. EVERY president since has obsequiously followed the orders of the MIC, having learned well the price that JFK paid for opposing the MIC. The MIC’s reach is far and powerful, as John F. Kennedy, Jr. found out when his plane was taken down to eliminate him as a future presidential candidate. Trump may be a billionaire, but even billionaires have to follow orders from the MIC–if they and their families want to continue to enjoy the high life.

    “Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.”–Carlos Santana

      1. I understand that you’re not ready for the truth and lack intellectual reasoning ability to understand patterns in history. An attack from an unschooled assembly line mentality like yours merely affirms the truth of what I’ve said.

        “All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.”–Arthur Schopenhauer

      2. Sandi,…
        A. I don’t think he should be driving himself
        B. Since he is one of the chosen few who knows “the truth”, since he is “an expert”, and since the shrinks would have “no understanding of the depth of his knowledge”, they probably can’t help him
        C. The hospital staff has better things to do than listen to the rants of conspiracy theorists, and irrelevant quotes from Santana and Schopenhauer.

        1. tnash and sandi–I have laid the trap for you and you both proved my point, i.e., that you are ignoramuses, even dumber than the typical dope, dupe, or dolt who can only regurgitate the propaganda they’ve been programmed to say.

          In the first quotation, I deliberately put the wrong name of Carlos Santana as the source. Carlos Santana is a Grammy award winning guitarist/musician, not a philosopher. Santana has been performing since about 1966 and was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1998.

          The person who said “Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it,” was philosopher and writer Jorge Agustín Nicolás Ruiz de Santayana y Borrás, known in English as George Santayana. So, that’s George Santayana, not Carlos Santana.

          Feeble minds like yours should stick to what you do best: regurgitating preprogrammed propaganda like the assembly line mental-midgets that you are. Observation, knowledge, learning, understanding, ratiocination, thinking, and debating are completely outside your reach and always will be.

          1. Very, very clever Ralph.
            I remember a teacher who, on a True or False quiz, asked if the secret ballot was also known as the Austrian ballot.
            In scanning the question, or assuming a misprint, many students who knew the correct answer got “caught” by the teacher.
            Like you, he probably considered himself to be absolutely brilliant due to that stunt.
            Most students recognized that he was merely chickensh**.
            Congratulations, Ralph.

            1. Ralph,..
              – I think you should keep telling yourself and everyone else what an “expert” you are, about you great “depth of knowledge”, and about how you’re entitled to discard evidence presented by others because they “no nothing”.
              This seems to be working well for you.
              Now that you’ve discovered that the JFK Jr. plane crash was the work of the military industrial complex, your work may be completed.
              I don’t know if you also believe that the younger brother of JFK Jr. was also done in by the MIC, but maybe you’ll put your Clouseau-like skills to work on that issue.

  5. I see what the problem may be. It has an f bomb in it. I’ve removed it so I hope it will go into the comments.So every person who thinks Trump’s base isn’t angry about this:

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-08/hacker-group-releases-password-nsas-top-secret-arsenal-protest-trump-betrayal

    “Don’t Forget Your Base

    Respectfully, WTF are you doing? TheShadowBrokers voted for you. TheShadowBrokers supports you. TheShadowBrokers is losing faith in you. Mr. Trump helping theshadowbrokers, helping you. Is appearing you are abandoning “your base”, “the movement”, and the peoples who getting you elected.”

    Reply

      1. Edward Snowden
        @Snowden

        Bitter lesson: When any government conceals knowledge of vulnerabilities in common software, those vulns will be found and used by enemies. twitter.com/Snowden/status…

        10:51 AM – 8 Apr 2017

        Edward Snowden
        @Snowden

        NSA just lost control of its Top Secret arsenal of digital weapons; hackers leaked it. 1) github.com/x0rz/EQGRP 2) medium.com/@shadowbrokers…

        10:44 AM – 8 Apr 2017

    1. I voted for President Trump, but can’t celebrate his victory because I live in CA where we have more parties than the whole country combined. And a vote for anyone not big D is meaningless.

  6. Hi Darren,

    I put in a link to a group of hackers who released a password on NSA “tools for tools”! It’s over a Zero Hedge. The comment, which is not against any blog rules is in moderation. would you please get it for me?

    Thanks,

    Jill

    1. Jill,

      It wasn’t the link that the filter snagged it was the expletive. If you repost without that it should work.

  7. Rand is right on this one. Especially with Zionist Jared having influence on Trump.

    McCain is Bombs Away LeMay reincarnated. Remember he wanted to take aggressive action during the Cuban Missile Crisis – fortunately Kennedy had some saner advisors. Does Trump have any? that remains to be seen. If he bombs N Korea it is going to be a major disaster.

    1. “Especially with Zionist Jared having influence on Trump.”

      Well, Autumn, this anti-Semitic statement of yours destroys any aspect of credibility you might have had! Anti-Semites like you need to be ignored!

        1. I’m not anti semetic….. I am anti Zionist.

          You’re under the illusion that you’ve actually defended yourself with this characterization.

    2. The problem with Paul’s request is the world would know every word spoken. Perhaps Congress should have a very private committee (Senate/House and Rep/Dem) to meet with President? Would they turn him down? I doubt it, but if it satisfies the Constitutional requirement?

  8. It would have been good to have Ryan, Pelosi, McConnell, and Schumer meet privately to be informed. Or were they? Have any said anything? Our world moves too fast to get total votes of both houses of Congress. We are a moral country and shouldn’t watch with no reaction!

    1. “We are a moral country and shouldn’t watch with no reaction!”

      A point well taken. So what are some of the things we can do to give support to the targets and the victims of Assad?

    2. Sandi – I did read somewhere that Congressional leaders were briefed before the attack.

    3. “We are a moral country” WTF? We are not a moral country – plenty of blood on our hands domestically AND abroad. People may choose to make decisions but countries/governments are not “moral” None of them

      1. Autumn – Niebuhr contents that governments can be amoral or immoral, but never moral.

            1. Which ‘something’?. Moral Man and Immoral Society was published during the Depression. It’s been an age since I read it, but I do not think that was the thesis he advanced.

              1. dds – I do not know what he wrote it in. It was passed on to me in a History of Religion class.

  9. Reading through these comments, it strikes me as remarkable how no one seems to see the point. It has nothing to do with war powers, or the Constitution.

    Obama had converted the executive branch into a corrupt spying/disruption operation directed at his political enemies, years ago, and when Trump came into view, he was fully in the target scope. They invented a phantasmagoric, completely fake ‘Russian connection” when it appeared possible that even though the fix was in to install a third Obama term, the “clown” might actually pull off a win.

    What was the politburo to do?

    When he DID win, and nothing they they tried could stop his ascension to power, all they had left was a plot to “delegitimize” him. Which he kept outwitting at every turn.

    Yet, the corrupt media/politics complex kept insisting their crazed promotions were really true. Watch their ridiculous behavior on Tucker every night, and shake your head in wonderment how they think anyone takes them seriously as Tucker shreds any aspect of legitimacy they retained before they agreed to go on the show.

    So here was an opportunity for Trump to kill lots of birds with a single stone. No one can any longer claim that he’s in bed with the Russians. He launched the attack while dining with the Chinese–whose client state of North Korea has to be brought to heel. Obama was the biggest weakling the world had ever witnessed, and American power was laughed at; not any more.

    Princes need to understand that it is better to be feared than to be loved,. Perhaps Trump thought he wouldn’t have to govern that way, while he was running, but his enemies at home were doing everything possible to destroy his ability to govern. So he saw his chance, and took it. Now, they are all standing down.

    Did he want to play Machiavelli’s script? Probably not. Politics is a dirty business, though, he found out–worse than New York real estate. He won an impossible game by adapting to one evil landscape in his youth, and he knows what it takes to do it again. If he wants to make peace and the warmongers are intent on destroying him, he throws them a bone (he probably doesn’t even believe the “gassing” story). He blew up some buildings and runways, without killing anyone; he walks away and everyone is convinced he’s a scary tough guy. Perfect.

    All we need do is await the script the genius will hand us, page by page, in the days and weeks and months to come. One thing we can count on: it will always surprise. And if it does not delight, you are missing out. My advice is to enjoy the ride. The man is a master of suspense.

    1. Well written, Patrick. I learned a long time ago (if we cannot have both), that it is always better to be respected than to be loved!

    2. Pat,
      would you lavish such praise on a president Hillary who would’ve done the exact same thing in this instance (she is on record calling for exactly the type of airstrike that occurred hours before Trump did it)? At least CNN is not a hypocrite in this instance now are they? How bout you?

      1. I’m not certain, Jacques, you can call my remarks “lavishing praise,” but have it your way. I admire the man’s talents, and I think everyone should. You might have hated Mike Tyson, but you had to give him the credit he was due. Great fighters are admirable.

        As for Hillary, if she were to have done exactly the same surgical maneuver, it would have been for a completely different purpose, so no, I find it impossible to imagine appreciating the action, were she to have done it.

        That is, Trump, I surmise, as I explained, did it to shut down the conspiracy of the elite establishment that he found to be in motion to delegitimize him. It is impossible to imagine Hillary-as-president in that predicament. Were she to have attacked anyplace, ever, it would have been for completely different motives. She’s the darling of the elites; she wouldn’t have to defang them.

        Trump is like the sword fighter in a movie like The Princess Bride, but fighting three foes at the same time. Hillary would never be put in such a desperate struggle. Were she to have hit Syria, it wouldn’t be because she’s fighting for her own life.

        This is what you have to admire about Trump. He is crafty. He accepts danger as normative, and finds tools to hand as he goes along, and uses them. And always wins. Those pictures of dead kids, even if they are fakes, moved the hearts of the world, and he knows everyone believe them to be true documents. That was his opportunity to shut down the conspiracy against him. He used it masterfully.

        Like him or no, you have to admire his skill.

        How, on the other hand, anyone could like Hillary, ever, is beyond my ability to fathom. They fired her from the Watergate investigation for corruption, right out of law school, and she has proved corrupt every step of the way for all the decades since. Her one true skill is escaping being sentenced to prison, over and over again, no matter how blatant her crimes.

        1. With Trump’s poll ratings in the mid thirties, a case can be made that he was aiming for a bump in the polls. If he gets the bump, look for more bombs to fall. The MSM certainly is cheering him on along with some neocon democrats.

    3. The thesis that Trump did this to divert attention from his Russia-Gate quandary is gathering steam. Some are arguing that the whole thing, including the initial so called chemical attack, were staged and that Trump was either part of it or it was CIA originated but exploited by Trump for a Cod-Piece WAR diversion (like George Bush in his manly -or girly man- cod-piece flight suit on the good ship, Mission Accomplished)..

      http://www.moonofalabama.org/ -April 8, 2017


      The “chemical attack” at Khan Sheikoun was faked and a show; though a number of people were killed or hurt during its production.

      This video for example, of doctors and patients in an emergence room was pure theater, taken over a longer time period. The main presenter was a well-known criminal Takfiri but with links to the British secret service. The whole show was perfected, by specialists one would think, to fit for U.S. TV screens.

      [snip]

      The pictures and scenes were not constructed for Trump’s consumption. They were constructed by Trump for consumption by the “western” public. Never forget that Trump is also a successful professional TV presenter who knows how to act in front of cameras. The plot followed Trump’s persuasion style. The same style he used during the campaign and that let him win. Trump had several reasons to create such an incident. It was perfectly timed for the visit of the Chinese President Xi. This was a stunt to Trump’s liking. It was his production. The blond children were there to allowed for his “Beautiful babies were cruelly murdered …” punch line. Trump proudly produced and presented to you: “Trump the NEW President”.

      Calling this genius, where innocent people get killed for Trump’s political whims, is like calling kiddie porn a high art form. It takes a special breed.

      1. Another take on the same theme, perhaps closer to the mark than the 11 dimensional chess theme in the sense that if you can’t cry at human tragedy – laugh:

        Trump Confident U.S. Military Strike On Syria Wiped Out Russian Scandal
        http://images2.onionstatic.com/onion/5676/5/16×9/800.jpg


        WASHINGTON—After ordering the first U.S. military attack against the regime of Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad, President Donald Trump held a press conference Friday to express his full confidence that the airstrike had completely wiped out the lingering Russian scandal. “Based on intelligence we have received over the past several hours, the attack on the al-Shayrat air base in Homs has successfully eliminated all discussions and allegations about my administration’s ties to the Russian government,” said Trump, adding that at approximately 4:40 a.m. local time, 59 Tomahawk cruise missiles fired from U.S. naval ships obliterated all traces of the widespread controversy in news outlets across the media. “Ordering this strike was not a decision I took lightly, but given that it was the only way to decisively eradicate any attention being paid to congressional investigations into possible collusion between key members of my staff and high-ranking Kremlin officials, I decided it was a necessary course of action. If we learn that any remnants of this scandal remain after this attack, I will not hesitate to order further strikes.” Trump went on to say that he is leaving the option open for a potential ground invasion of Syria if any troubling evidence emerges that the Russian government manipulated the outcome of the 2016 presidential election.

        1. Prediction by some: All references to Trump being in bed with Russia will now cease.

          Of course, it is almost certain that Trump never was in bed with Russia, nor any of his transition team, in any sense damaging to US interests or US national security. But he was cornered and up a tree by giant trans national energy interests, US Security agencies and the MIC; those that want Assad deposed at any cost. What is on Trump, however, assuming his buy in to this ultimatum against Syria and Assad is a ruthless, cynical disregard for human life.

          While it is not guaranteed, had the US Congress assumed their Constitutional responsibilities, it is at least more likely that some effort to calm down and analyze the event that took place in Syria, and who was really behind it would have been undertaken. But the corruption of our Congress is such that they are representing the same interests that want Assad deposed at any cost.

      2. “Calling this genius, where innocent people get killed for Trump’s political whims, is like calling kiddie porn a high art form. It takes a special breed.”

        It was anything BUT a “whim.” He had a choice: allow the establishment to emasculate him, on the way to destroying him, or beat them at their own game. Bad things happen in war–both shooting wars and political ones.

        By doing what he did, he outwitted all of his enemies. And since these are the most powerful enemies anyone can have, to stop them in their tracks, over dinner, can only be described as genius. He understood the incredibly high stakes, and used the minimum of movement to overcome them.

        He put the establishment in its place. No one thought he’d be able to do that.

        1. To summarize, you are glorifying capitulation, you are giving the President authority the Constitution reserves for Congress and you are claiming genius for lynch mob tactics.

          1. He was emasculated? Well, then bring on the killing! Nothing shows you’re a man better than killing other people. What a man! Oh, and the bombs were so beautiful. And the ships shook afterward too! WOW. It is time for that Viagra ad.

            How about taking the ideas of the shadowbrokers instead. The said to Trump: “Double down. Not only is Putin my friend, he’s my BFF!” Now that would be a strong person. A person who can stand up for himself. A person who doesn’t need to kill others to deflect from idiots.

            But sure, just go kill some people. It’s the right thing to do!

            1. Both of you simply don’t comprehend my point. It’s neither good nor bad. It’s the way of kings, or as Machiavelli calls them, Princes.

              Princes do what they need to do to survive, and perhaps prosper. It has nothing to do with killing people, as if you think that was his objective. Omelets require the breaking of eggs, and all that.

              The point of my initial comment was that this has nothing to do with war powers or the Constitution. It has to do with the attempt to emasculate the new president: no one will he allow to do that. They wanted to believe he is a clown, and since he’s a complete outsider, he would be easily taken down. Well, he’s learning the game fast and well. They should have read his books.

              As I say, my observation has nothing to do with the morality of Machiavelli’s advice to Princes. It is just to point out that THAT’S what we are witnessing. A president the pretorian guard thought was easily made a eunuch, revealing that he’s capable of being a Caesar capable far beyond anything they have witnessed before. They are soon going to be afraid that HE will be the one to be removing THEM from their places of power. My guess is, VERY afraid.

              Each of us has the choice to like it or not. But we should understand what we are observing. I’m not saying that I like it. I hate politics, and would slit my wrists if forced to decamp to Mordor, as Lew Rockwell calls the District of Columbia. How anyone can endure it is beyond me.

              1. No, the problem is, I do understand your point. You see Trump’s capitulation to the dictates of the Deep State (take out Assad or else) to be a Machiavellian coup in a land you can’t decide is made up of Kings, or Princes, or Emperors – but which is glamorous to you as a romantic intrigue, in the hard boiled American – war is hell and ain’t that grand sort of way with Machiavelli thrown in for a dash of cynical shrewdness.

                Trump’s display is hardly genius, much less Machiavellian; it’s just weak character bowing to external pressure in the form of blackmail. Trump didn’t think this up, he was told to respond militarily and reverse acceptance of Assad, OR ELSE. Moreover, the US is not a kingdom, nor is its political structure an empire nor is Trump an emperor like Caesar. Hogwash. Toying with a nuclear power like Russia just to get out from under a personal threat is sheer insanity. It is the reckless gesture of a demented narcissist putting human existence at risk for his political survival. Wake up.

  10. (music- Country Joe and the Fish)

    Don’t ask me I don’t give a damn…
    Next stop is Viet Nam!

  11. December 7th, 1941 is a day which will live in infamy.
    — FDR

    Yeah. The last time we declared war on another nation state. Or the next day, December 8th.
    For the millennials out there: Dec 7, 1941 was when the Japs attacked Pearl Harbor.

  12. I completely agree with Senator Paul there was no threat to the continental United States and therefore Congress needed to give approval which did not happen. I think that it is time for a Congress to be elected that will put the needs of the United States first and not use the office for a platform for personal power and wealth. Unfortunately this is not the Republican or Democratic party members currently in office’s view.

  13. The US has no compelling reason to insert itself in Syria. However, chemical weapons are a different matter. There has to be some rules to the madness of war. If Hillary were elected I imagine she would have responded as did Trump. Here’s the difference. Does anybody know WTF Trump will do next? I don’t. And neither do our enemies. That is a double edged sword.

    1. We had a good high school baseball team but we could never beat a small school way down in the sticks. The reason was their 6′ 6″ pitcher who threw hard but he had no control whatsoever. Every at-bat was an adventure for both batter and pitcher and a knock down pitch was just as likely as a strike. The kid knew no one had the guts to stand in there and risk the high heat. That pitcher is Trump, and most of these international types have far less guts than the guys on my high school team. You can learn a lot from baseball.

    1. More nonsense from the anti-Semite who calls himself/herself “Patriot”! “Patriot’s” main goal in posting is to promote an anti-Jewish and anti-Israel agenda!

      1. Your comment about “Zionist” is bigotry. Trump and Jared want to start a process toward peace. It sounds impossible, but it needs to be tried. If there is one Muslim who lives in today’s world could offer suggestions it could be that start. Israel has a right of sovereignty, as did France, Germany, Italy, etc. who we fought two world wars to save. Can someone tell me why?

        1. And Iraq, Libya, Syria etc do NOT have right of sovereignty? Ask the Palestinians how well it’s working out for them as Israel seeks more Lebensraum.

        2. What is an acceptable and descriptive word to use then? Would Israeli mafia cross your red line in the sand?

        3. You are so right Sandi. the best way to bring about peace is for a guy who supports torture and has already committed murder on Yemen civilians; men, women and children, to bomb another nation who isn’t at war with our nation. It all makes sense!

    2. Oh please! Is wanting peace (or at least acceptance/tolerance) a bad goal?

  14. Here is what Ron Paul says to RT,

    https://www.rt.com/usa/384021-ron-paul-syria-strike/ Published: 8 Apr, 2017


    ‘They’re [neoconservatives] terrified that peace was going to break out’

    This is not the first time something like this has happened in Syria or elsewhere, Paul said, but now it is convenient to pay attention and react immediately.

    “If any of this was true, I don’t know why they couldn’t wait and take a look at it. In 2013, there were similar stories that didn’t go anywhere, because with a little bit of a pause, there was a resistance to it built in our Congress and in the American people. They thought that it was a fraud and nothing like that was happening, and right now, I just can’t think of how it could conceivably be what they claim, because it’s helping ISIS, because it’s helping Al-Qaeda.”

    “From my point of view, there was no need to rush. There was no threat to national security. They have to give a reason to do these things,” Paul added.

    It bears repeating: ” I just can’t think of how it could conceivably be what they claim, because it’s helping ISIS, because it’s helping Al-Qaeda.”

  15. “I agree with the bombing of the Syrian air base, for humanitarian reasons, ”

    Sort of like killing for Jesus”

  16. The rule favoring Executive Action without prior Congressional Approval had always been limited to imminent threat upon the U.S.its territories or possessions, or its armed forces. That’s how it should still be. (See War Powers Resolution 1973)

    I agree with the bombing of the Syrian air base, for humanitarian reasons, but I think Congress must grant that power to the Executive prior to such intervention.

    J.T. is absolutely correct when it comes to textualists relying on a living constitution when it suits their political ambition.

  17. Posted again as it is germane to this thread.

    The simple fact that our media is putting out the information everywhere that Assad is to blame, should make one suspicious. When they print something about President Trump, it is often if not always a lie and everyone here assumes as much. A good assumption, but not necessarily just because it is Trump, but rather because that is all the media does; LIE and so if they are talking about President Trump, it is probably a lie.

    If they are talking about Assad, it’s probably also a lie. Consider. Thanks to Russia, Assad is winning the war in Syria. The US, just the day before the attack, relaxed it’s requirement that Assad must be deposed. What possible motive would Assad have for using chemical weapons at such a point in time? It just doesn’t make sense unless someone absolutely WANTS it to make sense.

    So, is there an alternative explanation that would fit the facts? The following, from Moon of Alabama, is just as plausible and perhaps more so. Remember, what the media is calling “Rebels” in the target area, Khan Sheikoun, are actually members of al-Qaeda . Ideologically, they are just as likely to be putting bombs in planes that attack American cities as to be fighting against Syrian Forces. But when they are fighting Syrian forces, then they are considered “Rebels” (or friendlies) by the US and the MSM

    http://www.moonofalabama.org/ – April 7, 2017


    The nerve agents in Khan Sheikoun, should they be confirmed, came either from stashed ammunition at the place attacked by the Syrian government or it was willfully released by the local ruling terrorist groups -al-Qaeda and Ahrar al-Sham- after the strike to implicate the Syrian government.The relatively low casualty numbers of mostly civilians point to the second variant.

    Several reports over the years confirm that Al-Qaeda in Syria has the precursors and capabilities to produce and use Sarin as well as other chemical agents. This would not be their first use of such weapons. Al-Qaeda was under imminent pressure. It was losing the war. It is therefor highly likely that this was an intentional release by al-Qaeda to create public pressure on the Syrian government.

    .So the idea is that “the rebels”, that is, al-Qaeda and/or al-Sham, exploded some canisters of low grade chemical weapons – much inferior to what the Syrian military manufacturers – that they, “the rebels”, had put together themselves and which “would not be their first use of such weapons.” Unlike Assad, they had a motive; they were NOT winning the war, they were loosing it in their battle against the Syrian military combined with the Russian support. So they set these canisters off by themselves shortly after the planes sent by Assad (the Syrian Air Force) completed their mission, and they did so in order to lay the blame at Assad’s feet.

    This would fit the facts as known since there was no one on site when the incident happened that can be considered neutral or even qualified to say the agents came from the plane or even what they consisted of.

    Of course this is not proof positive, but it suggests that, just as with claims that Russia hacked our elections, we need to get to the bottom of the incident with a careful, methodical, fact finding mission. Simply sending off missiles, while it produces shameless unconstitutional lynch mob support from both sides of our political den of thieves sometimes referred to as our “honorable” Congress men and women, does not make America look tough so mush as like a trigger happy buffoon or like an empire that has a hidden agenda it is trying to accomplish with it’s usual shock and awe of massive propaganda.

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