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“You Are A Good Man”: Trump Praised Philippine President Duterte For His Blood-Soaked Crackdown On Drugs

We have previously discussed the worrisome affinity that President Donald Trump has appeared to show toward authoritarian figures like Turkish strongman Recep Tayyip Erdogan.  Now the Department of Foreign Affairs has reportedly released a transcript of the call between Trump and its blood-soaked president Rodrigo Duterte.  The transcript shows Trump heaping praise on Duterte specifically for his crackdown on drugs — the very program that has made him an international pariah over its extrajudicial murders of suspects. Thousands have been reported murdered under Duterte’s reign of terror for criminal suspects.  The White House has not denied the accuracy of the transcript.  Duterte is now threatening to remove any semblance of a democratic system and declare martial law over the entire island.

On the April 29th call, Trump praised Duterte (who has faced calls for both prosecution and impeachment for his admission of murders going back to his time as a mayor) for his war on drugs.  Trump says that Duterte is doing an “unbelievable job.”  Trump seems to have bonded with the unstable strongman and said that like him, Duterte doesn’t sleep much.  “I just wanted to congratulate you because I am hearing of the unbelievable job on the drug problem,” Trump told Duterte “Many countries have the problem, we have a problem, but what a great job you are doing and I just wanted to call and tell you that.”  Trump seems oblivious to the fact that Duterte has destroyed due process and embraced extrajudicial killings as part of that “great job.”  Despite Duterte’s profane attacks on the Pope and others (and his bragging about personally killing suspects), Trump declared “You are a good man . . .  Keep up the good work . . . You are doing an amazing job.”

This “good man” has declared  “Hitler massacred three million Jews [sic], now, there’s three million drug addicts. I’d be happy to slaughter them.” He has encouraged citizens, particularly the unemployed, to “kill all the drug addicts.” Yet, Trump seems intent on conveying a new position of the United States on our view of such killings.  In distinguishing his Administration from the critical Obama administration, Trump basically professed that “I get you.”  At one point he says “I understand that, and fully understand that, and I think we had a previous president who did not understand that but I understand that and we have spoken about this before.”  That sounds a lot like the United States is now supporting authoritarian extrajudicial murders.

What is equally bizarre is that Trump asked the notoriously unstable Duterte for his view of the stability of North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un, who Trump described as a “madman with nuclear weapons.”  He also revealed that two nuclear submarines were moved into the area.

The statements made on this call would go well beyond Trump’s tolerance for authoritarian figures and push the United States into praising — even encouraging — such abuses.  Duterte has destroyed the legal system of his country and openly mocked basic human rights.  Like Trump’s call congratulating Erdogan on acquiring near dictatorial powers, Trump’s praise of Duterte is chilling.

121 thoughts on ““You Are A Good Man”: Trump Praised Philippine President Duterte For His Blood-Soaked Crackdown On Drugs”

  1. You libs sure like to name call those with whom you disagree!

    Sure, Appalachia is overwhelmingly white but has nowhere near the random violence of the ghetto or most minority areas.

    And btw – I’ve practiced law in that part of the country. Will take it anyday over the hood or being around SJW’s.

    Bet you live in an upper middle class area yourself.

    I love who libs love to ‘virtue signal’ their innate goodness so as to be invited to the right parties but send their kids to private schools and live in gated communities. Most libs are absolutely PHONEY and I detest them.

    1. You are as lacking in knowledge as Squeeky about the opiate problem in America. The dealers are the pharmas. Do you advocate assassinating them? Maybe you are a wannabe paralegal like Squeeky.

      1. Actually, I am admitted in several US jurisdictions.

        But you’re missing the larger point. I’m Hispanic and to criticize me is a racist act!! Where is the $PLC when you need them.

        If I were a liberal Hispanic, you would be k**sing my a** right now in an attempt to suck up.

        Don’t you just love identity politics?

    2. I live in a small town in the midwest. We don’t have gates like they do in Dallas and Houston.

      1. Yeah, because the idiot who actually puts the crap in his/her mouth, or smokes it or snorts it, or shoots it, is totally BLAMELESS! If some people are sooo weak, then all the more reason for doing what Duterte is doing, because the drug dealers are basically shooting fish in a barrel, right? We can kill the drug dealers under the aegis of protecting the weak people who are powerless in the face of drugs.

        Squeeky Fromm
        Girl Reporter

  2. This caught my attention. I know that we have the freedom of speech and that we can say what we want without even researching about the person involved or will just base from the newspaper or social media. But as a Filipino, eventhough that I didn’t vote for President Duterte because I was in Copenhagen that time. I should say that he is really a good man. I witness corruption in the Philippine government offices and when the moment that I heard about Pres. Duterte planning to stop the corruption. I praised him with all my heart because that was one of the problems of the Philippines. Yes! a lot of people died because of drugs. And it was because of the suspects. They fought with the policemen instead of surrendering. And you know what?. Drug pushers kills fellow drug pushers just to keep their mouth shut! It is easy for the international media to just write about the Philippines, about the war on drugs. But you would only understand our situation if you lived in our country for a long time so you’ll notice the difference and the progress. There’s a lot of news about Father who rapes his daughter, worst is they are toddlers. Because of what?because of DRUGS!. and there’s a lot more cases. So now, Did the International Media reported about it? Never. I hate drugs and i like Duterter’s “war on drugs” because my brother-in-law is addicted to it. He ruined his family. He steals, he’s gone crazy and leaves his family behind. He ruined my sister’s life. You would only understand if you were in the situation. . I remember last year, my friend’s cousin died because of drugs, because he was a pusher and they said that he wants to have a new life and stop using and selling drugs so their drug lord killed him. So who’s fault it was? Was it the president?. Sometimes we have to look on the other side of the story. He has been elected by the majority because it’s time for the Philippines to have a president who has an iron fist to fight with the evil. We even feel sorry for him. Because His life is in danger now because of that. As well as his family. Before he can just walk on the street and go to the grocery on his own but now with a lot of bodyguards. I know other politicians are involve in drugs, I tell you! They are also financing the rebels to do some moves against the president. Why do I know all these things? Because I am a filipino. So whenever my employer’s son tells me that our president is a killer,murderer, crazy! My only answer was ” You have to live in the Philippines for a long time before you can say that Pres. Duterte is a murderer. Don’t just based from the media. Because money is powerful. Money can buy anything, even lies”. Guys, we leave everything to the President. The majority chose him. Let him do his job.

    1. Thank you for sharing that! A lot of the white people here who do not like what Duterte is doing, live in safe, predominantly white areas, and do not take the time to understand the devastation that drugs bring to a community. Plus, it is very important to them to be seen as civilized and tolerant of all things, without any concern for the people who don’t live in nice safe areas. They are infected with the noblesse oblige virus..

      Squeeky Fromm
      Girl Reporter

    2. fortyforsixtythree

      HRC beat Trump by three million votes.

      1. You are failing High School civics here. But you do show what any politically astute person knows – US is politically divided nation.
        We are a Republic, not a mob ruled direct democracy.
        Your ignorance of the basics; persuades me to rebuke your other conclusions.

  3. I think Jonathan has a hard time imagining the responsibility of being head of state, especially in a country like Phillippines which is coming apart at the seams with lawlessness and loss of public order. Islamist terrorists just took over a major city in Mindanao at gunpoint. (Pres. Durterte’s home island is Mindanao).
    Strong measures are called for when the forces of criminal cartels and terrorists are gaining the upper hand over government.

    Go back and look at the extrajudicial killings that could be laid at the feet of Pres. Lincoln.

    We should be encouraging the Phillippines to crush its cartels and Islamist militias using state-of-emergency powers, be hyper-vigilant to official corruption, and aspire to a return to normal Constitutional processes in the 2020s once the lawless element is brought to heel.

  4. I fail to see that there is anything worthy of praise in Mr. Duterte’s actions. His popularity is not surprising, however, since we know from human experience that most people will readily accept authoritarian rule if they perceive that it brings safety and security. That is confirmed by some of the comments on this thread. But those who complain that “process” is a foolish luxury are misinformed. The Constitution is essentially a booklet on process, an outline of the institutional structures created to promote the common good while preserving personal freedoms. Process is all we have. Government sanctioned vigilantism is a repudiation of the social contract in favor of the state of nature, relieving the contracting parties from all societal obligations.

    1. That is where your philosophy fails. You put too much reliance on maintaining “process”, to the point where you completely miss what you have ended up with. I have called this “The Paradox of Civilization”, where a society becomes sooo civilized that it can no longer protect itself. This the Eloi and the Morlocks here.

      Due process rights may be a good thing, for individuals accused of individual crimes. But due process does not apply to battlefields. You don’t “try” the enemy soldier before you drop a bomb, or an artillery shell on them. You just try to kill them in large enough numbers that they stop wanting to do bad things to you.

      IMHO, drug dealers, and gangs in general, are closer to be enemy armies than they are individuals. That is why they are more dangerous, and more deadly. To insist on proper due process rights for them is a silly notion, and misplaced, logically.

      Take Chicago, for example:

      Chicago is the gang capital of the United States. According to the Chicago Crime Commission, a 2012 Chicago Police Department gang audit found there are more than 600 gang factions in the city, with a minimum combined membership of 70,000.

      http://www.cbsnews.com/news/by-the-numbers-chicago-area-gangs/

      That is the military equivalent of 3 1/2 to 7 Divisions of troops*. Just in one city. I suspect the combat potential is even higher, because you don’t have support staff. These are armed and organized individuals acting openly in defiance of the law. And you, want to treat them as individual criminals, and give them a trial, and then imprison them, and then let them out to do it again. And you even think that is the smart and proper way to do it, even as the problem grows worse.

      Now wonder our country is going down the tubes. Open your eyes, and your mind, and get a grip on reality.

      Squeeky Fromm
      Girl Reporter

      *PS: This is also why law abiding citizens need assault rifles, and high capacity magazines.

      1. Rather live in Chicago than whatever Klan infested hood you call home.

        1. Dave T

          You would only live in Chicago proper, if you could live on Lake Shore Drive or along the Magnificent Mile. If you were working class and couldn’t escape the undertow, you wouldn’t be so crazy about it. But you would sure condemn those working class folks for engaging in “white flight”.

          I love “virtue signaling”. Not to be confused with actual virtue.

          1. Young people of all ethnic backrounds are moving into the city. Ukranian Village is hot these days. You don’t seem to know much about it other than some random stereotypes of yesteryear.

            1. Dave T

              You didn’t address my point about white flight. Bet you are upper middle class and can avoid the undertow and would condemn working class whites for engaging in white flight.

              And btw – I know Chicago well, used to live there.

              And lastly, it is racist for you to criticize me!! I am a Hispanic. Authentic and certified with a Spanish name and everything. Where is the $PLC when you need them?

              If I were a liberal Hispanic, you would be ki***ng my a** right now in an attempt to suck up.

              There, sir! I’m playing the ethnic card. Don’t you love identity politics?

    2. Mike A:
      I share your adherence and reverence for legal process but a simple fact of life is that inordinate complexity breeds inaction which in cases of extremis can’t be tolerated. We have an ongoing shooting war against the West that the courts here and abroad are loath to admit and even more reluctant to stop. Foreign policy is the traditional and explicit bailiwick of the Executive and levying war the realm of the legislature. One branch of government is conspicuously missing from that endeavor and with good reason. We’ve used that cliche’ incessantly but it’s true the “Bill of Rights is not a suicide pact” and we must at some point conclude that elected leaders have to act to defend us whether the law has caught up to the issue or not lest we have nothing more than stirring epitaphs on our graves and not much else. Lincoln had no problem ordering the arrest of Justice Taney when he challenged Lincoln’s declaration of martial law in Ex Parte Merriman and no one calls the Great Emancipator a tyrant save only a few disembodied, faint voices of northern copperheads who almost cost us the Union. I agree not every crisis calls fro extreme action but in world where children are murdered for attending a pop concert, pedestrians are run done in the street before being stabbed not a base path length from Parliament and the threat of a dirty or airborne nuclear device being carried or landing on our shores is a distinct possibility, don’t you think the primary concern for government is is good ol’ substantive self-defense and not the niceties and machinations of due process? As for your on-point social contract comment, I hasten to remind that the fundamental quid pro quo of that hoary deal is some of my freedom in exchange for your provision of safety.

  5. “Saving the world is fine, but I have to save myself first” People here posting about Palestine/Israel….and other topics unrelated to Philippines.
    If this topic interests you, watch free documentary from Australia’s journeyman pictures. Its closer to them than it is to us. Its more complex than you think.

  6. A lot of hyperbole flying around today. I suspect people’s real opinions (even Trump’s) hew closer to the rule of law than the applause for Mafia style rule -as a show of do-or-die support- suggests. Any thug can kill guilty and innocent alike, political opponents, drug pushers, addicts from children to grannies and sundry others who just get in the way from the back of a motorcycle and call it law enforcement. To call such terrorism rule of law, particularly by claims of effectiveness as justification, appears more closely related to a bad acid trip than common sense.

    Trump may feel that his flow of consciousness, free style form of expression permits such exaggerated attitudes when the context calls for it (a phone call between himself and the Thug O The Philippines) without defining the “real” Trump and that as the President, it falls to others to make allowances.

    But he fails to take into account that there are many who simply don’t have such a robust sense of humor, and whether or not it is up to them, not him, to make such allowances – the net result will come back to bite him; fairly or no.

  7. Why do Americans feel the need (and right) to tell the rest of the world how to live or run another countries internal affairs?

    Tell an American (on the mainstream right or left) that a certain part of the world may be none of our business and they will look at you like you are crazy.

    “Of course, it’s our business, we are only trying to help and we have a duty to spread democracy, freedom, human rights, etc.”

    Americans simply do not have the ability to see themselves as others do. –Henry Kissinger

    The communists (and I detest communism, family were Cuban refugees) may have had a point when they talked about American imperialism.

    Personally I am sick of the wars and interventions, both on the ‘right’ and ‘left’. How’s that working out for us?

  8. Duturte does not have sanctuary cities like we do in America, where drugs are legal and aliens can come in and sell the drugs with impunity. We need to make California secede and then build up a border wall on the adjoining states.

  9. To Trump Duterte is a good man. I think that says everything we need to know about Trump, his administration and the GOP.

    1. I bet it does to you, because you are not real big on things like “thinking” and “explaining.” Plus, if we just accept that the “Duterte is Evil” meme, like it was “settled science”, then people like you can skip over all those inconvenient truths like the 30,000 dead people we have each year in America, deaths that you are willing to accept, because we tolerate drug dealing, drug use, and drug dealers.

      You see, a sovereign country has the right to decide what things should be crimes, and then punish those crimes accordingly. Further, what you call “extrajudical murder” is the same as the old “Wanted Dead or Alive” posters we once put out in this country when we were taming the Old West.

      The operative questions are, why does Duterte, and others think killing drug dealers is peachy. Lee Yew, prime minister of Singapore, is quoted above saying:

      17:38 Lee Kuan Yew: If we could kill them a hundred times, we would, because you destroy whole families. It’s terrifying to see because you’re then drug-dependent. You steal. You cheat. You rob your own parents. I mean, it’s– it’s soul-destroying. And they come in knowing that death if they are found with these goods on them, but the rewards are so great.

      That’s the real question. Does being a drug dealer constitute a rational basis for executing someone? The devastating ways that drug destroy a community, I think it does. But you, being the smug and arrogant type that you are, don’t even think the question is worth raising. Yeah, we wouldn’t want you thinking any new thoughts, would we.

      Squeeky Fromm
      Girl Reporter

        1. Like Justice Holmes, you are not real big on the whole “thinking” and “explaining” thing, either, are you? Maybe I shouldn’t say that to you, because maybe you just lack the intellectual capacity to form your own thoughts, and then explain them.

          Squeeky Fromm
          Girl Reporter

  11. Privacy is every Americans right. Freedom of speech and freedom of the internet,. We must keep the internet free from the government. Stop the Government from spying on everybody, we have a constitutional right to our privacy. Use the search engine that does not change its results for political reasons and respects your privacy, just good old fashion results that are not tracked. Lookseek.com Have a great day

    1. Privacy is every Americans right. Freedom of speech and freedom of the internet,. We must keep the internet free from the government. Stop the Government from spying on everybody, we have a constitutional right to our privacy.

      Sounds good, but your advice is misleading. 1) As far as privacy on the internet goes, people should do their own research as much as possible. Don’t trust advice from anyone without getting it from multiple sources; as many as possible. 2) Thanks to recent legislation signed by Trump, by default, your internet service provider can and does collect information from your searches, as well as every thing you do on the sites you visit regardless of which search engine you use. It doesn’t matter if your search engine doesn’t share (typically sell the data), if your ISP does. If you want to give factual advice, take that into account and make it explicit to anyone you warn.
      3) Even if you use a privacy respecting search engine, AND can opt out of information sharing with your ISP, the sites you visit can and often do collect data about what you do while you are on their “pages”. Every add you see on a site can see that same data which includes your IP address as well as where your cursor goes, what you click on, what you type once you send that text as an html request and so on (those are just the more obvious ones).
      4) You can tell a certain amount of what is being collected by looking at some of the more “personalized” ads you see.

  12. US-occupied Afghanistan, Source of 90% of The World’s Heroin

    How does 415,000 kilograms (913,000 pounds) of heroin from Afghanistan get to US each year?
    War in Afghanistan was “to restore the CIA sponsored drug trade to its historic levels and exert direct control over the drug routes.”
    Trillions were spent on War in Afghanistan because Taliban outlawed opium.
    U.S. soldiers are guarding Afghan opium.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/heroin-dealer-in-chief-afghanistan-source-of-90-of-the-worlds-heroin/5502813

    1. Right, US CIA is source of heroin to keep our banks solvent.

      “That sounds a lot like the United States is now supporting authoritarian extrajudicial murders.”
      We have been once Obama started targeting individuals with drone bombings, bombings that wiped out more than the target. What else is undeclared war but extrajudicial murder?

    2. ^^^^
      Damn blog is turning into nothing more than TROLLS and haters.

      I hate repeating myself….

      The Internet is the first thing that humanity has built that humanity doesn’t understand, the largest experiment in anarchy that we have ever had.

      Eric Schmidt

    2. US OFFICIAL TO ISRAEL: WESTERN WALL NOT YOUR TERRITORY
      The US told Netanyahu not to join Trump at Western Wall
      The Western Wall is not part of Israel

      The Temple Mount and Western Wall – Judaism’s holiest site –
      is reclassified as exclusively Muslim by the UN in major victory to Palestinian cause

      Israeli government furious at UNESCO decision.
      UNESCO renewed resolution accusing Israel of denying Muslims access to Jerusalem holy sites.
      The Temple Mount is revered by both Jews and Muslims, though UNESCO only referred to it by its Arabic name, the Haram al-Sharif.
      Palestinian Authority praises resolution as ‘important message to Israel.’

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3837427/Blow-Israel-United-Nations-body-passes-resolution-denying-Jewish-link-holy-sites-Jerusalem-giving-Palestinians-victory-cause.html

      http://buenavistamall.com/Wallofshame2.jpg

  14. If Duterte is as irredeemably evil as the Left claims why do efforts to impeach him invariably fail in the Phillipino legislature? Are they hopelessly corrupt, too? Duterte seems to be a blowhard like Trump but he has tapped into the sentiment of the Phillipino people as evidenced by his 76% approval rating that Trump can only envy. http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/886721/dutertes-approval-rating-drops-but-popularity-remains-high Maybe the Phillipino people are irredeemably corrupt too, but at some point you can’t claim the whole world is corrupt so,as to justify your point of view. People eventullay tire of coddling (and paying for) the mischief of society’s miscreants. The Left refuses to accept that fact but it is real as history demonstrates and leaders who embody that manifestation of popular will rarely face ouster.

    1. Nice phrase, ‘manifestation of popular will’. Please consider Hitler, Stalin, Chavez, Castro, Mao, Erdogan, the Saudis.

        1. I seriously consider it an admirable phrase. I wished to point out that popular will does has it failures.

  15. Maybe we should really have Catholic Charities sponsor a few..say 3 Million Filipino Drug addicts to come to the United States to escape Duerte’s purge.
    WELCOME DRUG ADDICTS..get together on the tarmac in Portland, with hot soup and clean needles.

      1. Refugee wolves?

        Jeezus, Mespo. You gotta stop the Infowars crap.

        1. Richard:

          Here’s the latest peace offering from the wolf den:

          From the Telegraph on our Manchester bomber: “His parents, mother Samia Tabbal and father Ramadan Abedi, a security officer, are Libyan-born refugees who fled to the UK to escape Gaddafi. It is thought they returned in 2011 following Gaddafi’s overthrow.”

          and

          An article from the Washington Times quoting the CIA about the ISIS strategy of embedding terrorists among the refugees:

          http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jan/29/isis-finds-success-infiltrating-terrorists-into-re/

          Who needs to be cautious; we’re compassionate!

        2. Richard

          If you are about to face a jihadi attack, just tell them you are a good liberal and I promise they will stop.

          I super douper promise they will stop!!

  16. Catholic majority countries are no worse than Islamic ones when it comes to showing how afraid they are of people thinking for them selves especially while altering the state of their minds.
    It’s basically a non government controlled free enterprise the government can’t control and profit from so it’s banned as illicit using the moral high ground of a religion to assuage the genuflecting masses that horrific treatment of other human beings who sway from the cloth is acceptable but necessary to maintain purity in their faith.
    Trump’s authoritarian provenance supports the business side of it.

    1. What’s wrong Richard? Can’t take a view contrary to the othordoxy? I’ll send you a coloring book and some crayons.

      1. Interesting take on orthodoxy, Mespo.

        My opinion was written when Squeeky was writing most of the comments. And, yes, Mespo, I absolutely reject her poison. Her views are repugnant and vile and should be strongly rejected by all people who value justice, law, civility and the value of human beings. If you support her values, in my opinion you, as an officer of the court, should be considered for sanctions, perhaps even disbarment.

        1. Boy do you not understand America. We don’t disbar people for their thoughts no matter how misconstrued. That’s what tyrants do.

          1. Don’t worry mespo, disbarment and worse is coming. The United States will have European style hate speech laws in 20 years.

          2. Mespo,

            Am I to understand that you object to tyrants? That is surprising considering that Duterte is the epitome of a tyrant.

            As for the possibility of sanctions or disbarment for an officer of the court who supports the likes of Duterte or the morals of a Squeeky, I had thought the Bar had once required its officers have ‘moral turpitude and ethical conduct. But perhaps I am misled, and such standards no longer apply and perhaps we are a better country, and you a better attorney, for dismissing such expectations.

            However, if you truly believe Squeeky to be a model citizen and her values worth supporting, I pity your children. I guess the Law, such as you represent, will take care of itself.

            1. Richard:
              “Am I to understand that you object to tyrants? That is surprising considering that Duterte is the epitome of a tyrant.”
              **************************
              I prefer dealing in fact over invective. Duterte is a tyrant as an elected official like Obama was a tyrant which is to say neither were/are tyrants. They act with the express will of the people who elected them by overwhelming majorities. You may not like his style or his policies but there is no valid evidence to suggest his involvement in extra-judicial killings despite his blustering support for the death of drug dealers. The Philippino legislature has reviewed the evidence several times and concluded it was nothing but vicious hearsay so I fail to understand how we, 8000 miles away know better.

              1. Is the Phillippino legislature anything like our present Congress in their ability to hold the president accountable?

                Come now, Mespo. We both know political bodies are not always the best judges.

                And I guess I would be fruitless to begin posting Duterte’s words calling for the killing of drug users while you insist on playing the ‘I’m stupid’ game.

        2. I really don’t mind you calling me vile and repugnant, because everybody is entitled to their opinion. But I am disappointed that you find it sufficient to stop at name calling. And “pose adopting”, where you adopt the pose of a morally outraged person. Why don’t you actually try addressing the substantive issues.

          One person here from the Philippines has told you what life is like with the druggies, and I have posed a very reasonable argument that a society has the right to criminally proscribe certain behavior, and execute a death penalty if one engages in that behavior. I have argued that the sheer number of gang members mitigate against treating them with full due process.

          You eschew addressing all that, and just strut around prattling your platitudes as if you are such a wonderfully intelligent source of knowledge, that your opinion overrides every other consideration. I am pretty vain, but even I deign to argue my beliefs, and not just plop upon the forum like I am the Queen of All That. Even though to me, I truly am The Queen of All That.

          Squeeky Fromm
          Girl Reporter

          1. Squeaky:
            “I am pretty vain, but even I deign to argue my beliefs, and not just plop upon the forum like I am the Queen of All That. Even though to me, I truly am The Queen of All That.”
            ********************
            And to us all, Your Highness! Noblesse oblige, no doubt. LOL

        1. Every time your leader opens his ignorant loud mouth, you Trumpkins loose ground.

              1. Funny, we feel like winners with the market up, illegal immigration down, energy independence, unemployment at historic lows and more international respect in decades with ISIS on the run and by avoiding the mistakes of our Leftists nut jobs across the pond. Maybe it’s just you who are the loser.

                1. Any idiot knows that markets are cyclical. So when the market tanks after the Trump agenda fails will you then be a “loser”? Lots of of moderates don’t much care for you and Squeeky’s far right fascist authoritarian agenda either. See it is finally getting to the prof.

                2. Good work on trumpeting the accomplishments of the Trump administration. Just a few notes…

                  The market grew many thousands of points during the Obama administration. Trump took over as it was breaking records. Let’s see if Trump matches those gains at the end of four years.

                  Unemployment fell many points during the Obama administration. Trump took over as it was trending downward. He’ll never match Obama’s accomplishment.

                  International respect? I’ll give you the Saudis who love the arms deals, and I’ll give you the Israelis who hated Obama’s opposition to the growth of settlements. Otherwise, we are thought of as very dangerous country of fools run by an imbecile. Did you happen to notice the Pontiff’s gift to Trump?

                  Interesting that you use the term ‘nut job’ in your comment. It’s a common phrase these days, no? Although, it’s rare to have a president use it in describing the FBI Director to a couple of Russians.

                  You’re not an uneducated man, Mespo. Why do you play the fool?

                  1. Richard:
                    I see what you don’t — a country on track again after being mired in indecision for a decade or so. Obama did plenty of good domestically but he’s a disaster as an international leader. In this world, you’re either respected by your foreign adversaries or you’re bullied. We’re the former now since we’re placing security above sentimentality. If that’s all Trump accomplishes, that’s plenty.

                3. Yeah.

                  Let’s be sure to avoid the errors of all those nut jobs across the pond with their universal health care and affordable college and highest rankings on ‘happiness’ rankings and lowest scores of gun deaths.

                  Let’s keep up the good work and avoid all those horrors.

                    1. Sorry, Mespo. The Times article does not seem to have much bearing on the advantages of universal healthcare on a civilized society. And I look forward to your alerts when the happiness ratings change and look forward to when Americans come out on top.

                      And while we’re waiting for those European nut jobs to wise up, I’m hoping you will join me in looking forward to our maternal death stats improving to the rates of the rest of the developed world.

                    2. Richard:

                      Actually, I’m looking forward to your bon voyage party as you sail off to the happyNever-Never Land with Peter and Tinkerbell since the Garden of Eden awaits you across the pond.

                    3. Mespo @ 10:11

                      Well what can one respond to such an impressive, thoughtful and yet, devastating argument, barrister? Your precise response to each of my points was jaw-dropping.

                      You must be truly remarkable in court.

                      Good night and good-bye. Enough wasted time.

                    4. As I bid you farewell on your journey of health and happiness in the Old World, I leave you with the words of Jefferson who always seemed to have the perfect sentiment for every occasion: “Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions.”

      2. Too funny. On FLIPBOARD, the first sentence of their community standards reads:

        “DON’T BE A JERK.”

        Check it out.

      3. Has Prof Turley come down with a case of Stockholm syndrome & is now identifying with his captors that hate Trump’s Swamp Draining in DC? Along with some cognitive dissonance?

        “Definition of Stockholm syndrome

        : the psychological tendency of a hostage to bond with, identify with, or sympathize with his or her captor”

        https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Stockholm%20syndrome

        “Cognitive dissonance
        In psychology, cognitive dissonance is the mental discomfort experienced by a person who simultaneously holds two or more contradictory beliefs, ideas, or values.More at Wikipedia ”

        ‘Don’t f**k with me about ISIS’: Duterte invokes Eastwood, Jesse James in anti-militia pledge

        https://www.rt.com/news/389564-duterte-martial-law-isis/

    3. It’s a free speech zone. Remember when our whole country used to be like this? Me neither.

  18. Squeeky and The Donald condone murder in the first degree.

    1. Uh, if it is legal, then it ain’t murder. No more than an execution is murder. Once again, the Liberals show themselves unable to show any capacity for rational analysis.

      Squeeky Fromm
      Girl Reporter

      1. Extrajudicial means illegal. I.e., murder.

        Also, learn the various meanings of liberal. Don’t just throw words around.

  19. Chilling is an understatement. I can’t wait to hear what the Trump apologists (at Fox News & Beyond) will have to say about that–and the spin by the White House on it. Duerte was in Russia before he rushed back as he declared Marshal Law…..and “begged” Putin for arms….

    1. There is a lot more to the Duerte story.
      He was a darling of the Obama administration and the International bankers.
      Maybe this guy really wants the best for his people and like Malaysia is just taking out the trash.
      These drug cartels and synthetic drug users who bite off parts of people’s faces is something nobody wants in their neighborhood.

  20. Yeah, because the Philippines should do like the United States, and spend billions of dollars on half-a$$ed methods, and put up with 30,000 dead victims per year! Yeah, they should nurture their drug dealers like we do, and worry more about being nice to the druggies, than worry about the decline of cities and families. Yeah, Duterte should care more about process, than lives. Like us smart Americans do.

    Personally, I wish Duterte success in his endeavors to take the only sensible course to get rid of the drug problem.

    Squeeky Fromm
    Girl Reporter

    2. Yeah, the prisons here are jam packed with people being coddled for heinous things like possessing an ounce or so of marijuana. In fact, the coddling is so awesome in our sardine can prisons, I hear folks fill their car trunks with bricks of dope just in hopes of being sent there. We really should do less coddling and more arresting, like Squeeky says. Not enough non-violent guys in prison yet. That’s the ticket.

      1. Quit emoting, and find me the number of people actually “jam-packing” the prisons for an ounce of marijuana.

        If those people do not exist, then you need to admit that you are simply overwrought.

        Squeeky Fromm
        Girl Reporter

        2. You’re always entertaining..that’s for sure–But insulting is not debating–but it appears that you don’t understand that. As an FYI, if you had reviewed this report, you would have realized that it is from 1997–about 20 years old. If you have more updated data, feel free to share it–Also, FYI, the Administration you seem to implicitly champion (as evident in your zealous advocacy of climate denial based on very very dubious sources) has a proposed budget that would gut Drug Control Office by about 90%. Since you also seem to be a fan of Duerte, you are implicity saying–laws don’t matter..so, let’s then have summary executions–Maybe you should move to Saudi Arabia.
          Cheers.

            1. “We should be treating our nation’s drug epidemic for what it is — a public health crisis, not an excuse to send people to prison and turn a mistake into a tragedy.” Avedon Carol

              Maybe we should be sending more banksters and other financial tricksters to prison. They poison far more people than coke or Mary Jane users do.

              1. First, I am all for putting more bankers in jail, and more of the financial pirates.

                BUT, IMHO, drugs are no more of a “health” crisis, than alcoholism, or gambling addictions. These are behaviors that people knowingly and willfully and selfishly engage in, to the detriment of society at large, and to their friends and families. It is no more of an addiction than some idiot saying that he has an adrenaline addiction, and therefore must rob banks to get his fix. Calling it a “health crisis” is just some bullsh*t so that we can kick the can down the road, and not have to deal decisively with the real problem.

                Treating it like a health problem means you spend billions of dollars and untold hours of time to basically correct some idiots who refuse to behave in conformity with society’s rules. And you still don’t end up fixing over the half the people you try to “cure.” Screw them. I am all for having a zero tolerance and executing the dealers first, for a few years, then adding addicts to the mix, and a few more years after that executing casual users. I see nothing wrong with society having some rules that are rigidly enforced, and drug use is a prime candidate for that.

                Earth has too many humans already, and there is no need to try to not get rid of the intentional deadbeats and losers. But, taking out the trash will have to wait for the next Fuhrer.

                Squeeky Fromm
                Girl Reporter

      3. Sessions wants to crack.down on the marijuana users. Bloody Trump and Duterte will be of assistance. Hope the constitution saves of us.

    3. Guess you want to murder the citizens of West Virginia. The nations largest drug problem is in the Appalachians.

    5. Squeeky, scroll forward to the 17:22 mark of this video. It’s an interview between Charlie Rose and Lee Kuan Yew conducted in the year 2000. CR provides a transcript. I’ve pasted the relevant part:

      17:22 Charlie Rose: And throw them out! (crosstalk) Now, you also have one of the highest rates of capital punishment.
      17:26 Lee Kuan Yew: Yes. That’s for drugs.
      17:30 Charlie Rose: That’s for drugs.
      17:32 Lee Kuan Yew: Yeah, and we–
      17:34 Charlie Rose: Because you think drugs deserve to be treated with the maximum punishment.
      17:38 Lee Kuan Yew: If we could kill them a hundred times, we would, because you destroy whole families. It’s terrifying to see because you’re then drug-dependent. You steal. You cheat. You rob your own parents. I mean, it’s– it’s soul-destroying. And they come in knowing that death if they are found with these goods on them, but the rewards are so great.
      18:04 Charlie Rose: You don’t–
      18:07 Lee Kuan Yew: And they try very– very unusual people– women from Africa, big mammies come to sell clothes, and in between the clothes are kilos of heroin.
      18:15 Charlie Rose: And if you say, ”If you bring heroin into Singapore”–
      18:20 Lee Kuan Yew: You hang.
      18:22 Charlie Rose: You hang.
      18:23 Lee Kuan Yew: You hang. Anything beyond 10 grams, you hang. Below 10 grams, maybe–

      https://charlierose.com/videos/18331

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