UK Moves To Make Wolf Whistles and Misogynistic Speech A Hate Crime

Metropolitan_Police_FlagWe have previously discussed the alarming rollback on free speech rights in the West, particularly in France (here and here and here and here and here and here) and England ( here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here). Much of this trend is tied to the expansion of hate speech and non-discrimination laws. Once allowed to criminalize speech, individuals and groups demand more and more prohibitions.  England is in a free fall over free speech and this week is yet another example.  The police have indicated that they are considering making wolf whistles the latest category of hate speech.  

The change is part of an new assessment in the works by the Metropolitan Police and other UK law enforcement organizations.   The pilot program has been started by Nottinghamshire Police in making arrests for street harassment, verbal abuse and taking photos without consent.  The target is any speech or sounds deemed misogynistic.

Dozens of women reported misogynistic crimes under the new program.

The result is that England will continue to criminalize speech and sounds deemed offensive or misogynistic in its continued plunge into speech regulation.

56 thoughts on “UK Moves To Make Wolf Whistles and Misogynistic Speech A Hate Crime

  1. Do gay men make cat calls and whistle at other gay men? How about lesbian women, do they find the behavior of some women offensive?

  2. Judicial Watch: State Department Made Deal with Hillary Clinton to Keep Call Log, Schedules Secret

    DECEMBER 14, 2017
    (Washington, DC) – Judicial Watch today released new U.S. Department of State documents showing former Secretary Hillary Clinton and her then-Deputy Chief of Staff Huma Abedin were permitted to remove electronic and physical records under a claim they were “personal” materials and “unclassified, non-record materials,” including files of Clinton’s calls and schedules, which were not to be made public. The documents show the Obama State Department records would not be “released to the general public under FOIA.”

    See https://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-state-department-made-deal-hillary-clinton-keep-call-log-schedules-secret/?utm_source=deployer&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newswatch&utm_term=members&utm_content=20171215000856

    [But the following was very interesting.]

    The documents indicate that Clinton removed a physical file of “the log of the Secretary’s gifts with pictures of gifts.”

    The receipt of gifts by federal employees in the Executive Branch is regulated:

    […And this was added]

    “We already know the Obama State Department let Hillary Clinton steal and then delete her government emails, which included classified information. But these new records show that was only part of the scandal. These new documents show the Obama State Department had a deal with Hillary Clinton to hide her calls logs and schedules, which would be contrary to FOIA and other laws,” said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. “When are the American people going to get an honest investigation of the Clinton crimes?”

  3. And to top it all off, in “Merry Olde England,” a Royal proposes to marry an impure divorcee and commoner
    making the Royals common. The emperor has no clothes. It’s plain for all to see that the Royals are actually commons.

    “Uh, Uh, That’s All, Folks.”

  4. Everyone needs to face reality. Men are unable to control their behavior and need tightly enforced laws to help them do so. Women are fully ready, willing, and able to control their behaviors and need neither men nor laws to weigh in on that control.

    • You are a real piece of work. That’s all you get. Please take your mental illness to a professional.

      Britain has been in this downward slide for awhile, now. It’s incredibly sad, and I hope common sense prevails.

  5. Under new plans being considered by police chiefs, misogynistic language and behaviour would be treated as an aggravating factor in crimes such as harassment and assault.

    Apparently a different crime would have to have been committed before they’ll layer this on. Still, personal bodycams might be a necessity in the future.

    • Slippery slope; give 3rd Wave Feminists an inch, they’ll take a mile. The term “misogynistic” WRT language is too vague. I can see a lot of awkward blokes getting accused of misogyny by feminists brainwashed by this PC groupthink. DC McAllister has a decent piece over at The Federalist talking about women and their behavior toward each other and men. Millenials and Gen Z SJWs ignore evolutionary biology at their own peril. I don’t think the male population anywhere is comprised primarily of beta cucks who love to be verbally berated about their “toxic masculinity” when they get home from work.

        • Autumn, I missed it. Frankly, I’ve been avoiding this place–real-life obligations and a’ that. Those songs are tongue-in-cheek, right? It’s hard to tell nowadays, nobody gets irony anymore (plus, I’ve got an ad guy in the extended family, so I know how culturally/socially superior that lot are :-). The Good Queen Wenceslas song is particularly eyebrow-raising. Women want to free themselves from cooking to go run the government 24/7? Of course, look how well it’s worked to date! Jiminy Cricket, the MGTOW men are starting to look rational to me right now. Merry Christmas, autumn!!

          • CCS – I hope so! Since I’m still housebound believe it or not this blog is a good outlet / diversion for me. There’s only so much Netfix and Amazon I can watch =)

            Merry Christmas to you as well!

            I assume you’ll have a white one? Despite all these years of living in Charleston still not used to not having 4 seasons =)

            • Autumn, I forgot you were recovering….hope that’s going well. WRT Netflix, I just finished binge-watching Broadchurch 3rd season. Just brilliant. It’s been snowing here all morning, don’t know if it’ll still be around for Xmas. It’s a pain, actually. Most of the Cape is surface roads and plows are slow to get out. However, it’s better than being back in CA; my friends are safe, thankfully, but it’s just tragic out there.

              • Hey CCS – just got back from the ortho – bones looking good – start PT in Jan!

                I too am a binger — watched all five seasons of “The Americans” – excellent show – brought back lots of Cold War memories. Will check out Broadchurch – never heard of it =)

                • I need to watch the Americans…..Broadchurch has one of my fave Brit actors in it, David Tennant.

                  So glad to hear you are knitting up nicely!!

                    • Paul, the family binged Stranger Things and Mindhunters already. Mindhunters has some legs, no? No limit to the psychopathy in the US. I’ve yet to get pulled into The Crown. Narcos looks good. Have you watched Mozart in the Jungle? It’s on Amazon Prime, but it’s fabulous. I watched it primarily for Bernal, but Peters and McDowell are in top form. To continue OT: disregard Lincoln in the Bardo–tedious stuff that should never have made it to Mann Booker final list, never mind winning the darn prize.

                    • CCS – I have Amazon Prime but have not set it up, so I just watch Hulu and Netflix. I did the first season of The Crown, which was excellent. I have the second teed up. 🙂 However, I am watching some crime shows first. And I am taking a course on art appreciation. 😉 And I have many other things to watch as well. 🙂

                    • Paul, what did you think of Foyle’s law?

                      It’s subtle, expressive and paints a picture that includes the best and the worst.

                    • Allan – loved Foyle’s Law although I think it is over now and I think I have seen them all. The same actor is in George Gently. Also like Murdoch Mysteries, Miss Fisher’s Mysteries and Dr. Blake’s Mysteries. There are a lot more I cannot remember right now. 😉 I like mysteries because they are like comfort food. 🙂

                • What happened to you Autumn?

                  Broadchurch was great. I like a lot of the British shows on Netflix. Take note of House of Cards, the British version. You can compare it to the American version.

                    • Paul -yesss! The Brit who played Francis was amazing. That’s why I generally don’t like U.S. remakes of foreign film (The Bird Cage is an exception).

                    • I think Kevin Spacey was tremendous, but I loved the British version. Watching the two was quite educational. I’ve compared plays that I saw in London and the US. The British are incredible and their stars are very approachable. After seeing Arcadia in London I had to take the tube a distance and met 3 of the stars talking to them for about 20 minutes. On Broadway, the stars seem to get right into a limousine and drive off, that is unless they go to Don’t Tell Momma.

                  • Allan I saw that a few years ago. US version too over the top. One good film I saw recently was an Amazon original about a lobbyist – Miss Sloane

  6. ” Unwanted sexual advances AND verbal contact” are now considered hate crimes under Nottinghamshire’s new pilot project, and incidences of misogyny were reported every 3 days once the program was implemented. Was the crime rate so low in Nottingham that the police needed to invent it? I predict a significant increase in unmarried spinsters with houses full of cats.

  7. They really have so little crime they have to come up with this? Are they nuts? How long will it take a bobby to come to where you are to take a report if they are having problems with property crimes already? Will they have the hate crime police? This could get interesting.

  8. London has fallen to the immigrant horde. Now it’s Londinistan as the Stanley Baldwin’s of today sacrifice democracy in favor of the totalitarianism of diversity. They feckless, modern British males obviously aren’t interested enough to maintain their Republic, more interested in preening on Savile Row than clearing Muslim “no go “ zones. As Queen Victoria once observed to Benjamin Disraeli, “we can only rule that which we can hold.” Of course, that little bit of truth was spoken when Britain was a sovereign state and not a bus stop for every third world migrant. Rule Britannia? More like RIP Britannia. In memorial of its demise, I’m going to see “Darkest Hour” with the incomparable Gary Oldman next week. Nice to remember the good old days when existential threats to England’s survival were foreign and not domestic. That rumble you hear in that little churchyard cemetery in Oxfordshire is Sir Winston rolling in his grave after learning that he magnificently defended Britain from one tyrant only to see it whimperingly handed over to another.

    • Mespo re ” Now it’s Londinistan as the Stanley Baldwin’s of today sacrifice democracy in favor of the totalitarianism of diversity. ”

      [Londistan] “‘Snowflake students’ get University to apologize for calling snow white”

      “University College London was forced to apologize after a “dreaming of a white campus” tweet was deemed racist by “snowflake students.” The tweet had been intended to let students know the campus was still open as some parts of Britain remained covered by 13 inches of snow.”

      https://www.rt.com/uk/413049-snowflake-students-white-tweet/

  9. Well, we need to cut right to the chase and force us women to be less sexually attractive in the first place! Victoria’s Secret needs to be banned, along with push-up bras, and all forms of make-up, and low cut or tight fitting blouses.

    No more short shorts, Daisy Dukes, tight-fitting jeans and fancy hair stuff. We need to go back to hoop skirts and no more bustles. And two piece swimwear? Eau neau! We all need to look like them Pentecostal women in their little cotton dresses and tennis shoes.

    Squeeky Fromm
    Girl Reporter

    • Hmm, it seems Squeeky you have hit the nail on the head. Maybe in the future, a well-dressed woman demonstrating the wonderful features of a woman will be considered an attractive nuisance.

    • Squeek – I watched a funky film last night – reminded me of you somehow – maybe it was the gun she carried in her purse. =) “Miss Meadows”

  10. Essentially, they are criminalizing sexual attraction, lumping wolf whistles and clumsy pick up lines in with sexual assault. Do they believe that women are somehow unequal to the task of navigating interactions with the opposite sex? Will this absurd law be applied equally, and women will be carted off in the paddy wagon for making comments about a man’s bum or calling out to him? My goodness, entire rock concerts will be emptied by all the lawbreakers screaming at the rockstars. The Beatles and Elvis Presley could have easily removed an entire generation of mainstream society to the penitentiary.

    And these are the wages of Big Government combined with erosion of individual rights. Cede freedom of speech at your peril.

    • It is only a consideration. You would have to spend some time in midlands England to fully understand. However, I opine that the problems come from the male immigrants from the Middle East and Maghreb. They have quite a different culture and don’t understand the need to adapt quickly to the local mores.

    • This is exactly it. Any woman who calls herself a feminist (in the original sense of the meaning, that women should be treated as equal to men) should be OUTRAGED at this. It implies women are fragile creatures who must be protected by absurdly intrusive laws that micromanage human sexual interaction so intensely as to stamp it out (or at least take the allure and mystery out of it so that it becomes an unappealing business transaction complete with forms signed in triplicate to ensure “consent”). Women cannot have it both ways. Either we are equal to men, in which case we can hold our own without a hyperreactive bubble of laws to cushion us from the male libido, or we are essentially children.
      Surely even the UK government can’t be this insane? I feel like this is going to be deployed as a means of disposing of inconvenient individuals, meaning analogous laws will be passed in the US within the year. Thought they had this covered with the ever metastasizing “hate speech” laws, but I guess they have to cover all their bases. Complete insanity.

  11. Any and all conceivable rights and freedoms are natural and God-given and they existed before government was established; they exceed the boundaries of the United States and any and all other nations; they are provided to citizens while government is restricted to effecting security and infrastructure in order to facilitate the enjoyment of all rights and freedoms by citizens.

    The requirement of free people is self-reliance.

    Charity is industry conducted in the free markets of the private sector.
    _______________________________________________________

    9th Amendment

    “The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.”

  12. I fail to see how a wolf whistle is a hate crime.

    Rude, disrespectful, even harassing, but not hateful speech.

    If anything a wolf whistle suggests liking, lust, admiration, or even approval.

    Suggests that the Nottingham police – tasked with writing new laws – don’t know their a$$ from a hole in the ground.

    • I can see that it would be considered demeaning and objectifying to women, and possibly even intimidating, depending on the context. But not really reflecting hatred. However, all “hate speech” is fairly vague, as we don’t know what the person who said it intended. Hate speech crimes are based on ASSUMPTIONS about the defendant’s intent, not what the defendant actually meant.

    • There is nuance to a wolf whistle. It can impart admiration, and put a spring in a girl’s step. Or it can come across as creepy if, for example, someone follows you.

      It’s certainly not a hate crime and the people of the UK need to grow up. This is embarrassing for them.

  13. “Metropolitan Police and other UK law enforcement organizations.”
    ~+~
    That is a dangerous precedent. Law enforcement agencies acting as Parliament. The fact that everything seems to be subject to arbitrary criminalization is enough, but having a government agency doing this becomes self-serving and opportunistic. The potential for abuse is self-evident.

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