Rich Family Sues Fox Over “Sham Story”

150px-Foxnewslogo.svgThe family of the late Democratic National Committee Staffer Seth Rich has sued Fox News for intentional infliction of emotional distress and related torts in the airing of allegations of a conspiracy involving Rich and Wikileaks.  Despite my great sympathy for this family in the loss of Seth Rich, the complaint (below) is in my view without serious merit.  The causal connections are too attenuated and liability would undermine first amendment protections for the free press.

Rich was shot and killed in July 2016 while walking in Georgetown.  He was shot in the back several times and died hours later in a hospital.  Police saw the crime as a likely mugging, but critics immediately latched on the fact that the 27-year-old staffer had access to key information at the DNC and might have had a role in the Wikileaks material released during the election.

The family denounces the reporting as a “sham story” advanced by Fox News Investigative Reporter Malia Zimmerman and Fox News Commenter Ed Butowsky.  While claiming intentional infliction of emotional distress, it reads more like a defamation action on behalf of the deceased.  I have long advocated the statutory elimination of the torts doctrine barring defamation actions on the part of the deceased. The rule that “you can’t defame the dead” often protects outrageous lies written about famous deceased persons as detailed in this prior column.  However, it remains the common law and the parents could not file such an action even if the filing was within the statute of limitations (which it is not).

Torts doctrine has occasionally been limited to offer breathing space for constitutional rights like the freedom of speech and free press. Defamation is a good example where the New York Times v. Sullivan opinion imposed a higher burden on public figures and public officials in seeking recovery for defamation.  The intentional infliction of emotional distress has also been curtailed out of the same concerns.

The Supreme Court ruled 8-1 in favor of the Westboro Baptist Church in a case in 2011. Westboro is infamous for its deranged, homophobic protests at funerals of fallen U.S. troops. The father of a fallen Marine sued the small church under claims of harassment and an intentional infliction of emotional distress. I have previously written that such lawsuits are a direct threat to free speech, though I had serious problems with the awarding of costs to the church in a prior column.

The Court held that the distasteful message cannot influence the message: “Speech is powerful. It can stir people to action, move them to tears of both joy and sorrow, and — as it did here — inflict great pain. On the facts before us, we cannot react to that pain by punishing the speaker.” Chief Justice John Roberts added

Given that Westboro’s speech was at a public place on a matter of public concern, that speech is entitled to “special protection” under the First Amendment. Such speech cannot be restricted simply because it is upsetting or arouses contempt. “If there is a bedrock principle underly- ing the First Amendment, it is that the government may not prohibit the expression of an idea simply because society finds the idea itself offensive or disagreeable.” Texas v. Johnson, 491 U. S. 397, 414 (1989). Indeed, “the point of all speech protection . . . is to shield just those choices of content that in someone’s eyes are misguided, or even hurtful.” Hurley v. Irish-American Gay, Lesbian and Bisexual Group of Boston, Inc., 515 U. S. 557, 574 (1995).
The jury here was instructed that it could hold Westboro liable for intentional infliction of emotional distress based on a finding that Westboro’s picketing was “outrageous.” “Outrageousness,” however, is a highly malleable standard with “an inherent subjectiveness about it which would allow a jury to impose liability on the basis of the jurors’ tastes or views, or perhaps on the basis of their dislike of a particular expression.” Hustler, 485 U. S., at 55 (internal quotation marks omitted). In a case such as this, a jury is “unlikely to be neutral with respect to the content of [the] speech,” posing “a real danger of becoming an instrument for the suppression of . . . ‘vehement, caustic, and some- times unpleasan[t]’ ” expression. Bose Corp., 466 U. S., at 510 (quoting New York Times, 376 U. S., at 270). Such a risk is unacceptable; “in public debate [we] must tolerate insulting, and even outrageous, speech in order to provide adequate ‘breathing space’ to the freedoms protected by the First Amendment.” Boos v. Barry, 485 U. S. 312, 322 (1988) (some internal quotation marks omitted). What Westboro said, in the whole context of how and where it is entitled to “special protection” under the First Amendment, and that protection cannot be overcome by a jury finding that the picketing was outrageous.

The same logic could apply here.  Rich himself could well have sued if he were alive for defamation. However, the family is likely too removed to maintain this type of claim (even if one were to dismiss the first amendment concerns).  Likewise, the complaint contains an interference of contract claim that seems utterly meritless.  In the end, success on these claims would require major extensions of not just the underlying torts but concepts of factual and legal causation.

 

Here is the filing: Rich Complaint

85 thoughts on “Rich Family Sues Fox Over “Sham Story””

  1. It’s weird that they are suing – wonder if the Clinton cabal is behind it? You’d think they would want to find out who killed their son. His laptop taken into the possession of the DC police has still not been released to the FBI according to what I’ve read.

    Shot twice in the back – 2K watch and wallet untouched – a “botched robbery”?

    Wikileaks for the first time ever offers a reward? KimDotcom has offered to talk with Mueller – still insisting he has information.

    Seth Rich remains in our hearts and minds and this will not disappear.

    1. Seth’s family wishes “conspiracy minds” would remove him from their head spaces and, to stop using their son for media ratings and clicks. Autumn erroneously applies the word “mind” to conspiracists when what is occurring is illogically spinning.

    2. Autumn brings him up to help Putin. She could care less about Seth or his family and has expressed support for Putin on this blogger.

      1. ha ha ha. As usual “Linda” and OK make me laugh even though this is a grim topic. SO annoying to all y’all that Seth will not be forgotten!!! And neither will Clinton’s crimes.

        1. Autumn, pretending to carry the eternal flame for a young man who deserves respect and who was loved by those who knew him, reflects the immoral depths of the Putin regime.

    3. Autumn said, “Shot twice in the back – 2K watch and wallet untouched – a “botched robbery”?

      Seth Rich was found alive at the scene, still talking and died hours later in the hospital.

      Autumn also said, “wonder if the Clinton cabal is behind it?”

      Behind a botched assassination??? What assassin leaves the victim alive and talking with a fighting chance at surviving the assassination attempt? The same assassin who neglects to stage the assassination as a successful robbery by stealing the victim’s watch and wallet???

      1. From the article linked above:

        “Rich’s family did not “thank the Internet” for spreading the false story. On the contrary, they sent a cease and desist letter on 18 May 2017, threatening to sue Wheeler if he continued to make comments about the case to the media. The family also responded vehemently to the rumor through their spokesman Brad Bauman, saying the claims were false and that the stories were exacerbating their grief.

        The video supposedly showing Rich’s parents “thanking” people was originally posted to the family’s GoFundMe page and uploaded to YouTube on 24 April 2017 — weeks before Wheeler made the claims. In the video, Rich’s parents thank people who donated money to the family’s campaign to keep the investigation active until the murder is solved:

        Despite the fact that the video demonstrably does not show Rich’s parents “thanking the Internet” for spreading bogus claims about their son, popular right-wing conspiracy site The Gateway Pundit on 21 May 2017 picked up the tweet and reported the false claim along with incorrect details about the murder, while alluding to another debunked (and outlandish) story — that Rich was en route to meet with the FBI but was taken out by hit men acting on behalf of Clinton.”

        The above citation is but one example of the shamelessness of the Seth Rich conspiracy theorists. Surely that qualifies as “intentional infliction of emotional distress.” While Fox News did not report on that particular aspect of the hoax, Fox News and Sean Hannity went well out of their way to create the environment in which such shameless hoaxes were perpetrated by such shameless hoaxsters as Gateway Pundit.

      2. Autumn turns every news story into an anticlinton spinner. It is her job to make T rump and Putie look good.

      3. Assassination wasn’t botched – the story that it was a robbery is the botch. It was a lesson to others who might leak information imperiling the DNC and Clinton cabal.

        1. The assassin wanted the assassination to be discovered? That’s why the assassin left Seth Rich alive and talking for hours before he died? That’s why the assassin left the wrist watch, the cell phone and the wallet behind at the scene? So that no one would think it was a robbery? And everyone would know it was an assassination?

          1. Diane – didn’t the Chief of Police step and mention that it was not a “botched robbery” and she did not know where people got that from?

  2. Somebody subpoena Julian Assange!

    This is like watching the JFK assassination conspiracy unfold before our very eyes.

    Everyone ignores the elephant in the room.

    The truth is a hot potato that no one wants.

    Rich and Rago were political hits.

    “VEROPHARM”

    Joseph Rago –

    “Wall Street Journal Reporter Asks Russia For “Clinton Information” —-Turns Up DEAD 2 Days Later”

    “A Wall Street Journal Editor who was investigating how a Russian
    Pharmaceutical firm could have been purchased in 2014 by an American
    Pharmaceutical firm while Sanctions against Russia existed against such
    business transactions, has been found dead in his New York City
    apartment. The crux of the dead journalists investigation was how
    then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton influenced the transaction to be
    finalized, but only AFTER her husband Bill was paid $500,000 for giving
    a speech in Moscow.

    The Russia Consulate General’s office in New York City was contacted
    by Wall Street Journal reporter/editor Joseph Rago who requested a
    Thursday (20 July) in person interview with consular officials regarding
    an upcoming article he was preparing on Hillary Clinton and her links
    to Russia. Rago failed to attend the meeting and was later discovered
    dead in his apartment of as yet “unknown causes” just hours prior to
    this meeting occurring.”

    http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/world-news/878-wall-street-journal-reporter-asks-russia-for-clinton-information-2-days-later-turns-up-dead

    1. Please post more of this material. Do not let the naysayers or your court-ordered psychiatrist disuade you. Keep on keepin on the good fight against the black helicopters, vaccines, and fluoride. That is all.

      this is to (we all know who it’s to) georgie

      1. Spanking Redux
        _____

        Allan
        March 7, 2018 at 8:29 PM

        “Character matters. ”

        Get over it, Mark. Your parents bought a condo when they should have bought a condom.

  3. Does this mean there will be “discovery”? If it does, family members opposed to Rich having dealings with wikileaks may want to drop the suit immediately.

    1. Jill, the evidence that you supposedly seek in “discovery” does not exist. Therefore, your threat against the family of Seth Rich immediately to drop their lawsuit against Fox News is an empty threat. Moreover, your belief in the existence of evidence that Seth Rich had contacts with Wikileaks is largely based upon your own psychological need to believe that such non-existent evidence is being deliberately suppressed. That’s why you’re now demanding that the family of Seth Rich drop their lawsuit against FOX News immediately so that the non-existence of evidence connecting Seth Rich to Wikileaks will never be “discovered.” How convenient for you, Jill. You might want to learn more about the workings of your own mind than other people can learn about the workings of your own mind just by reading your posts on the blawg, Jill.

      1. No surprise that Assange phoned Hannity, who he assumed would be receptive to tales about Dems, like Mark Warner. Dems., unlike Repubs, are willing to fight Putin and oligarchs. It is the game plan of Russia and America’s richest 0.1% to destabilize the U.S.

  4. @TIN, March 15, 2018 at 10:42 AM
    “The one time in my life that I agreed with Donna Brazile, was when she expressed her opinion on why Seth Rich was murdered: ‘He was a white guy walking in D.C. at night.’ ”

    After Rich’s shooting and subsequent death in the hospital, I ran across this testimony (on several sites) of the 4th year surgical resident who operated on Rich the day he was shot:

    “Seth Rich was shot twice, with 3 total gunshot wounds (entry and exit, and entry). He was taken to the OR emergently where we performed an exlap and found a small injury to segment 3 of the liver which was packed and several small bowel injuries (pretty common for gunshots to the back exiting the abdomen) which we resected ~12cm of bowel and left him in discontinuity (didn’t hook everything back up) with the intent of performing a washout in the morning. He did not have any major vascular injuries otherwise. I’ve seen dozens of worse cases than this which survived and nothing about his injuries suggested to me that he’d sustained a fatal wound. [emphasis added]

    “In the meantime he was transferred to the ICU and transfused 2 units of blood when his post-surgery crit came back ~20. He was stable and not on any pressors, and it seemed pretty routine. About 8 hours after he arrived we were swarmed by LEOs and pretty much everyone except the attending and a few nurses was kicked out of the ICU (disallowing visiting hours -normally every odd hour, eg 1am, 3am, etc- is not something we do routinely). It was weird as hell. At turnover that morning we were instructed not to round on the VIP that came in last night (that’s exactly what the attending said, and no one except for me and another resident had any idea who he was talking about).

    “No one here was allowed to see Seth except for my attending when he died. No code was called. I rounded on patients literally next door but was physically blocked from checking in on him. I’ve never seen anything like it before, and while I can’t say 100% that he was allowed to die, I don’t understand why he was treated like that. [emphasis added] Take it how you may, /pol/, I’m just one low level doc. Something’s fishy though, that’s for sure.”

    https://medium.com/@shepardambellas/d-c-surgeon-who-operated-on-seth-rich-the-dnc-staffer-was-alive-and-well-after-surgery-before-a-1a3e5ea501c

    1. Why don’t you tell us what “sites” you found this on. Doctors are forbidden from revealing information like this, which is a violation of federal law, HIPPA. I can’t believe any fourth year surgical resident would be so stupid to jeopardize his career like this.

      So I call BS.

      1. A medical student with ethics – he/she probably disguised herself to get the truth out.

  5. The one time in my life that I agreed with Donna Brazile, was when she expressed her opinion on why Seth Rich was murdered: “He was a white guy walking in D.C. at night.”

    1. TIN – this is the same Brazile who was scared cause she was hacked? The woman is a consummate liar.

  6. JT sure knows his rubes, he knows this post will fire up his right-wing base on this site. And I’m sure as the Trump story becomes clear and the facts are sure to come out he will bring up “PizzaGate” or some other story that keeps his rubes in line. It’s becoming like clockwork when the news is bad for Trump he pumps out some BS about HRC or Obama to detract and deflect from the incompetence of Trump. “FOXNEWS” is a propaganda outlet for the willfully ignorant that only want to hear what they already believe.

    1. The sob story about the 22-year-old guy in the military, who received a year’s sentence for photographing U.S. defenses, was broadcast on Fox. Then, Turley agreed in his column that the punishment was unfair. Yep, it’s really wise to slap the wrist of a person working in the military who does something like that, because that will deter others in the future. And, it wouldn’t help at all with spy recruitment (sarcasm).

    2. As an attorney myself, I have to agree with Turley’s evaluation. By the way, it includes an analysis of the law, something which escapes you.

    3. FW – if ONLY it was “right wing” Fox viewers… LEFT progressives have been on this as well

    1. Kim Schmitz is an online pirate who has been indicted for racketeering, money-laundering and copyright infringement and is facing extradition to the US to face those charges that could put him in prison for several decades. Schmitz’ purported connections to Seth Rich were shamelessly concocted out of whole-cloth for the express purpose of attempting to plea-bargain a sentence reduction for his crimes. To lend credence to that sham is to be either gullible beyond relief or shameless beyond redemption. Unless, of course, Mr. Kurtz is an accomplice of Kim Schmitz.

      1. Diane – innocent until proven guilty is usually the standard. You have already convicted Kim Dotcom. Now, I have convicted Snowden, but I am willing to give him a fair trial before I hang him. Assange, I am up in the air about. Still, have not decided.

        1. So there’s a conspiracy to suppress the evidence that would prove the existence and operation of a conspiracy to suppress the evidence. Therefore, the simple fact that no one can prove that Seth Rich leaked the DNC emails to Wikileaks is absolute proof positive that Seth Rich leaked the DNC emails to Wikileaks. Why else would the evidence that proves the Seth Rich conspiracy theory true be so obviously, blatantly suppressed??? Because that evidence does not exist, never existed and never will exist. O! But can we “prove” the non-existence of evidence that proves that Seth Rich leaked the DNC emails to Wikileaks???

          Seth Rich was found alive at the scene, still talking and died hours later in the hospital. What sort of an assassin leaves the victim alive and talking at the scene to be transported to the emergency room where heroic measures are undertaken to save the victim’s life??? The same sort of assassin that neglects to stage the assassination attempt as a robbery by stealing the victims watch and wallet???

          If Seth Rich was not assassinated because he leaked the DNC emails to Wikileaks, then what other evidence exists that would prove that Seth Rich leaked the DNC emails to Wikileaks? Is that evidence is being suppressed as well???

          1. From an article in VOX entitled The Bonkers Seth Rich Murder Conspiracy Explained:

            “The police found Rich on the sidewalk with multiple gunshot wounds, at least two in the back. He still had his watch, his cellphone, and his wallet. There were signs of a struggle: bruises on his hands, knees, and face, and a torn wristwatch strap. According to the police report, he was still “conscious and breathing.” Family members say they were told that Rich was “very talkative,” though it is not publicly known if he was able to describe his assailant or assailants. Rich died a few hours later in the hospital.”

            The facts cited above cannot be explained on the theory that Seth Rich was assassinated for leaking DNC emails to Wikileaks. No assassin leaves his victim alive and talking to be transported to the emergency room for heroic efforts at saving the victim’s life. No assassin misses the opportunity to stage the scene of the assassination as a robbery by stealing the victim’s watch, cell-phone and wallet.

            It is a well known fact that facts do not matter to conspiracy theorists. It is an equally well-known fact that facts do not matter to political dirty-tricksters, propagandists and disinformation operatives. The perpetuation of the Seth Rich murder/Leak conspiracy theory places those who perpetuate it into one or the other of the foregoing categories: tin-foil hat conventioneers versus shamelessly lying sacks of manure. There are no other alternatives remaining.

            1. There’s more. If Seth Rich was murdered because he leaked the DNC emails to Wikileaks, and since police and paramedics who arrived at the scene found Seth Rich alive and talking, then why wouldn’t Seth Rich have told the police and the paramedics who transported him the emergency room that he had been shot for having leaked the DNC emails to Wikileaks??? If Seth Rich did tell the police and the paramedics at the scene that he had been shot for having leaked the DNC emails to Wikileaks, then why wouldn’t the police and paramedics either release or leak that information to the press??? How many staggering improbabilities can one tin foil hat conventioneer or one shamelessly lying sack of manure explain away on the presumption of a conspiracy to suppress the evidence that would prove the existence and operation of a conspiracy to assassinated Seth Rich for purportedly having leaked the DNC emails to Wikileaks???

              1. Diane – how many murders tell you why they are killing you when they shot you in the back? Focus, girl.

                1. You, fake-dolt, you. If Seth Rich leaked the DNC emails to Wikileaks before he was murdered, then Seth Rich knew that he had leaked the DNC emails to Wikileaks at the time that he was shot but found alive and still talking. Would Seth Rich neglect to suspect the motive of his assailant? Would Seth Rich neglect to mention the suspected motive of his assailant?

                  1. Diane – my favorite twit, you still don’t realize that when one is shot twice in the back one is not sure why one has been shot. And at no point would I (as the victim) want to point out that the DNC might be after me because I leaked their emails, just in case I survived. 😉

                    1. The police found Rich on the sidewalk with multiple gunshot wounds, at least two in the back. There were signs of a struggle: bruises on his hands, knees, and face, and a torn wristwatch strap.

                      Multiple gunshot wounds. Not just two in the back. Bruises on his hands, knees and face. Bruises on his face, Caviler. Now go back a reread the part where L4D said, “facts do not matter to conspiracy theorists nor political dirty-tricksters, propagandists and disinformation operatives.” Then apply that lesson to your most recent claim that the victim of an assassination attempt would dare not implicate his assailant nor his assailant’s co-conspirators while speaking with the police and on the odd chance that he might soon die.

                      This is the critical flaw in all conspiracy theories, Caviler. The evidence must be suppressed in perpetuity so that the conspiracy theory can never be disproven.

                    2. Diane – it seems to me that the full autopsy report on Seth Rich has not been released yet.

            2. Diane – the fact that he was murdered does not preclude that he leaked to Wikileaks. The 2 questions are 1) did he leak to Wikileaks and 2) who murdered him?

              1. So it’s a question, now–eh, you Yaqui Brujo burden shifter, you? Remember:

                Onus probandi incumbit ei qui dicit, non ei qui negat.

                1. Diane – you still are using it incorrectly. I am not asking you to answer the questions, I am presenting the questions. Focus, girl.

                  1. You need to demonstrate a foundation for those questions. The foundation for those questions cannot be an appeal to ignorance based upon an absence of evidence.

  7. Remember when Hillary said there is a “vast right wing conspiracy” out to get her? She too is a conspiracy theorist! As are all lawyers, in the end, isnt that so? Going into court all the time pleading illegal schemes! They simply don’t exist.

  8. There may be a lot of plausible explanations for why poor Seth Rich was murdered. The paranoiacs who think that maybe he was whacked because he leaked the DNC dirt on Hillary? Paranoaics, conspiracy theorists! Likewise, the long list of people who ended up dead after associating with and crossing the Clintons from years past, giving rise to the term, “Arkancide”

    Here snopes, who, btw, is just a guy with a computer, “Debanks” and explains away that long list of dead Clinton former associates.

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/false-clinton-body-bags/

    The Wall Street Journal are conspiracy theorists too, here, they talk about the Mena Arkansas airport that was a busy juncture in the narcotics trade, that was pure nonsense! The WSJ is just another conspiracy broadsheet.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB920421328276427000

    The two boys who saw the CIA contractor planes flying in coke from Nicaragua? They too, killed themselves, in an odd way, laying their heads down on a railroad tie in front of an oncoming train, but, authorities from Arkansas assure us that was a suicide, however unlikely. Oh the WSJ coverage was so feckless, so unsubstantiated, so paranoiac! The Clintons are ANGELS!

  9. They are not only stretching, but, considering what Kim Dotcom said, and Assange, Seth Rich very well may have been the leaker!

  10. Sometimes winning a judgment is not the real purpose of a civil suit. Sometimes making a statement of righteous indignation is the real purpose of a civil suit. Make Fox News defend itself in a court of law. Make Malia Zimmerman, Ed Butowsky and, most of all, Sean Hannity take the stand in defense of their reporting on the Seth Rich story. Make them admit that it was all a shameless lie manufactured by the dirty trickster, Roger Stone, for the benefit of his former business partner, Paul Manafort, and their former employer, Donald Trump. Make them all smear themselves the way they all smeared Seth Rich and they can all keep their filthy Russian money for the remainder of their days on Earth however many those should be. Teach them all the hardest way possible that the truth still matters. Then let them go run and hide behind their legalistic Mommy’s skirts, thee panty-waisted little school girls, thee.

    1. No one I am aware of is “smearing” Seth Rich. We just want answers. There is something odd about the parents filing this law suit.

      At any rate, it’s not about them it’s about him.

      1. Sure, Autumn, because you care more about their son, who you never met, than they do.
        I hope Seth’s parents win billions from the lawsuit and buy Fox so that they can stop its lies, distortions, propaganda and bigotry. Then, I hope the American people sue the network operating the cyber fronts for MAGA, Trump 2020, Hannity Fans Official and Sean Hannity Fans which operates out of a town in Kosovo.

        1. Nope, there is something seriously wrong with parents who go along with shutting down inquiries that could lead to answers about their son’s death. I feel a bond as a former Berniebot because this guy stood up against the Clinton machine and may have paid for it with his life.

          1. Autumn,
            You’re a bot but, you have no connection to Bernie nor to Jill Stein.

  11. In Milwaukee today a poor family sued a shoe store over bad soles. They spelled it “souls” in their lawsuit.

  12. I was a dog in a prior life and because of such I can recall what happened at the Pearly Gates when I had my interview and got sent back to Earth as a human. I was a bad dog and hence not sent back as a dog. But. Dogs who come back as humans can recall the meeting at the Pearly Gates. During my day in court there were several humans who got sent straight to Hell by Saint Peter that day. They were former news media people who worked for the old New York Times back in the 40’s. They had lied about Harry Truman and called him a “failed haberdasher”.
    So. If you are in the news media do not lie. You will go straight to Hell in a handbasket when your interview comes up at the Pearly Gates.

  13. I completely agree with Prof. Turley’s analysis. Fox wins this case.

  14. The “Free Press” refers to a printing press which can be had for no payment. Fox News does not “print” news. Fox News has some foxes but I am referring to some of the women who are on the air. It is not about “news”. Fox News is about making money off of the companies who pay for all those ads. If the Rich family is not rich enough then maybe they should sue the companies who advertise on Fox. Birds of a feather stick together.

  15. The Seth Rich story is yet more proof that Fox News is a malignant cancer on American society. Shame on those who concocted this fantasy story, shame on those who lied in reporting it, shame on those viewers who spread it throughout the conspiracy network. What a deep sickness they all share.

    1. What a twit you are! Here Jill Abramson walks around with a plastic Obama voodoo doll, and you think that you non-FOXNews folks have the High Ground, nay let’s say the Smart Ground??? After all the fakenews of the last year, you are just running thru the obligatory “FOXNews Sucks!” routine in a jaded fashion, much like Stormy fakes an org*sm on film.

      Squeeky Fromm
      Girl Reporter

      1. You’d be wise to sit with shame for a while and see if it helps you come to your senses. ETTD.

      2. Squeek, Jill Abramson is a nut job. She probably uses that “Obama doll” as a d!ldo. Pathetic creature.

        1. But you know how Dems are. They think we are mind-warped by FOXNews, when all along it is the people they listen to who have these massive prejudices and strange behaviors. It never even occurs to them that it is them, who have been mind-warped.

          Not to mention but even people like that Watergate reporter are calling them unhinged.

          Squeeky Fromm
          Girl Reporter

    2. lizlaw – you are on the family’s legal team and think you can win this case? There is no case here. Seth Rich is now a famous murdered person and cannot be defamed. He stands the same as the President. Fox wins this one.

    3. On the bright side, Pravda Faux News i s probably the driving force behind the utter destruction of the party which now calls itself “Republican.” The “base” of the Republican Party has a disproportionate effect on the direct of the party since they dominate the voting in primaries. However, because the “base” of the Republican Party (old, scared white people) are transfixed on the alternative universe and recounted “facts” promulgated by Pravda Faux News, they are motivated by objectively verifiable untruths. Such errors of fact will not survive in the long term in a free society when controverted by objective truths. Thus, the winners of Republican Party primaries are those who can play to the “alternative truths” that the base subscribes to. However, in a general election (where others than old, scared white people vote), such nonsense is rightfully dismissed as comedic tomfoolery to be sopped up by gullible rubes–and nothing more. Thus, the party which now calls itself Republican will continue to lose elections at an increasing pace as manifested on a repeated basis since the ascendancy of the day glo bozo. All the rational member of the party which now identifies itself as Republican have abandoned it. These people, these moral, ethical persons who place country above party, will be necessary to repair the American political fabric as they right the Republican Party after its downfall; returning it to its rightful role as the protector of authentic conservatism, and restore its status as the party of Buckley, Will and Reagan. For America needs a healthy and legitimate Republican Party; our system does not fair well when one party is ascendant over the other.

      this is in response to liberty’s post

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