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How A Porn Star Can Take Down A President

440px-Official_Portrait_of_President_Donald_TrumpBelow is my column in USA Today on the real danger of the Stormy Daniels case.  The danger in the campaign finance allegation is the fact of the investigation not necessarily the charge itself.  The fact that there is an ongoing investigation presents a more straightforward basis for prosecutors to allege obstruction than in the Russian investigation.

Here is the column:

Despite the well-earned criticism of Rudy Giuliani for his first interview as President Trump’s new counsel, the fact is that Giuliani was given a daunting task.

The legal team had clearly concluded that (with the raid on Trump’s personal counsel, Michael Cohen) it could no longer factually or legally defend the president’s prior blanket denial of an affair or knowledge of the agreement with porn star Stormy Daniels. Giuliani failed in the pivot rather spectacularly and might have done the impossible in making Cohen look competent in comparison. Giuliani later corrected his statements, and Trump went public to rebuke him to “get his facts straight.” Trump added the general advice to “learn before you speak. It’s a lot easier.”

The danger, however, is far greater than a lawyer learning about a case live on television like some legal reality show. The problem for Trump is that the Daniels controversy could supply the obstruction case that has long evaded special counsel Robert Mueller.

In a Sunday interview on ABC’s This Week, Giuliani continued to search for terra firma. At one point, Giuliani was reduced to insisting that while he could no longer assert facts as counsel, “I can prove it’s rumor. But I can’t prove it’s fact. Yet. Maybe we will.”

Somewhere in there is a good defense lost in bad delivery.

Giuliani was continuing to try to advance a line of defense called the “irrespective test” under the Federal Election Commission (FEC) rules that allow for a finding that an expenditure is personal if it’s “any commitment, obligation or expense of a person that would exist irrespective of the candidate’s election campaign.”

It is a valid defense, and it is particularly familiar to White House counsel Donald McGahn, who was an FEC commissioner.

But the legal legacy of the Trump administration is a litany of self-inflicted wounds. Trump insisted recently that you cannot obstruct a case if there is no underlying crime. In truth, that is no easy feat, but Trump is making an impressive effort.

The problem has never been his case (or cases). He has a strong defense in his choice to fire FBI Director James Comey, for example. A president can have multiple reasons for firing a political appointee, and Comey was viewed by former attorneys general and career prosecutors as warranting termination at the start of the administration. Virtually all of the claims of obstruction in the Comey matter have come from Trump’s own interventions and comments to Cabinet members, Russian diplomats, staff and news media.

Despite Trump’s best efforts, the evidence falls substantially short of a credible obstruction case. The case is made all the more difficult by the president’s use of discretionary constitutional authority to retain or remove political appointees.

The Daniels case, on the other hand, could present a much easier case for obstruction or related crimes. There are no complicating constitutional powers or political judgments. The New York prosecutors are investigating the payments and have conducted a raid that, in part, sought information related to payments to Daniels as well as similar payments to Playboy model Karen McDougal.

Efforts to withhold evidence, encourage false testimony, or influence witnesses could present credible foundation for criminal charges ranging from witness tampering, obstruction to subornation.

The Trump team appeared to finally recognize that Cohen had put the president in the worst possible position with his payment of hush money and incriminating past statements. Giuliani then took a bad position and made it far, far worse. He tried to reframe the payment of the $130,000 from a gift to a loan from Cohen, thereby tripping a series of new potential criminal and ethical violations without (as he seemed to assume) getting the president out of the campaign-finance threat.

The greatest danger of the campaign-finance allegations, however, is not the charge itself. These violations are rarely charged criminally and, as shown in the failed prosecution of former Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards, difficult to prove.

Rather, the greatest danger is the response to the investigation into campaign-finance violations or fraud. Again, all the prosecutors need is a criminal investigation to lay the foundation for more serious crimes such as obstruction.

Perhaps for that reason, Trump went out the morning after Giulliani’s first disastrous interview to deny the former New York mayor’s assertions. Then, in an even more embarrassing turn, Giuliani himself insisted that he was “not describing my understanding of the president’s knowledge, but instead, my understanding of these matters.”

However, the “matter” at issue is the president’s knowledge. If the president was involved in sending out a false public account by both his private counsel and White House staff, it could be treated as a potential criminal matter. Likewise, any evidence that Cohen was warned or in any way protected by government officials before the raids could prove incriminating.

Even more worrisome are accounts that Trump continued to call Cohen even though he was warned about the danger of interception and possible cooperation. According to NBC News, Trump made at least one call after his own Justice Department raided Cohen’s office and Cohen was rumored to have recorded conversations with his clients. The recklessness of such a call is impossible to overstate. If prosecutors believe that there is a campaign-finance violation or fraud, such contacts could easily lay the foundation for more serious criminal allegations for Trump.

Trump has always portrayed himself as a vicious “counterpuncher.” However, the federal code has a crime designed specifically for counterpunching in the midst of a criminal investigation. That is how a porn star could succeed where a special counsel fails. Indeed, if Trump is not careful, that is how a porn star could take down a president.

Jonathan Turley, a member of USA TODAY’s Board of Contributors, is the Shapiro Professor of Public Interest Law at George Washington University, where he teaches constitutional and tort law. Follow him on Twitter: @JonathanTurley.

315 thoughts on “How A Porn Star Can Take Down A President”

  3. Boy Don, you’re the real man today! Pro torture and pro war!!! You could stop both, but then you wouldn’t be getting money to cover your lousy business deals gone wrong And heh, what ‘s WWIII when you’re getting all that blood money! Do other people deserve to live when MBS and Bibi hand out all that money to you so you’ll help kill them? Certainly not!

    The earth itself? With all that money just think of the complete shithole you and your BFFs will rule over. Why who on earth wouldn’t want to rule over a cinder block of pain and suffering??? What a great man you are! We are all impressed with your groveling and unwilliness to look at your allies and tell them to immediately stop this insanity. What amazing courage you have!

    And who could have seen this false flag coming? WOW, you and Bibi and MBS are so smart! I’m sure the entire international community won’t have a clue that this was started by a set up.

    You could have been somebody. Now you’re just a murdering, torturing, groveling suck up to power and money. Congratulations on choosing to harm everyone and our beautiful earth for your narcissism.

    1. How is President Trump pro-torture and pro-war? You’re full of bullsheis. Gina Haspel is not pro-torture. And as for pro-war, YOU and your fellow leftists are pro-war and won’t be happy unless the US engages in nuclear combat with Russia. President Trump is ANTI-WAR. Fools like you claimed that President Trump’s strategy with North Korea was going to plunge the US into a war with North Korea. But the very OPPOSITE has happened because President Trump’s strategy has WORKED. Of course, you can’t admit that, so you ignore President Trump’s accomplishments, one after the other, as you mentally masturbate to stories about the Anal Queen (when not performing the physical variety).

        1. Only in looney left would chaos be defined as bringing North Korea to the negotiating table where all other presidents have failed and the prompt release of American prisoners. And, according to the loony left, chaos is also defined as helping to bring the unemployment rate to a record low. What you really mean is that you suffer from TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome). This is the inevitable result when the leftists stick their heads deep into their own cloacal zones (sometimes their own, and sometimes each others) for an extended period of time.

          1. The Donald has nothing to do with the unemployment rate.

            As for the other, correlation is not causation.

  4. Sorry, Stormy Daniels is just trying to sell tickets to her performances on her strip club tour and her so-called attorney (who used to be close with Rahm Emmanuel) is about to sign a deal with MSNBC or CNN. That’s all this amounts to. They can impeach Trump today and it doesnt’ mean he leaves the White House.

    1. I don’t think Professor Turley is interested in promoting Stormy’s strip club tour. The main item here, of course, is this shell company Cohen set up to process laundered money and hush payments. For Donald Trump this is one of the most damaging revelations yet.

      1. I think Peter is pis-sed because he went to see Stormy with a pile of dollar bills and didn’t get anything in return.

        Peter, you are supposed to put the dollars somewhere on Stormy, not leave them in your pocket. However, you are probably better off .

        1. Hey Ralph, that link you got there is some fake paper with a pop-up for MacKeeper; a well known scam. Legitimate publications don’t accept their ads.

  5. On page 395, second paragraph, in the book “Shattered” (last spring’s bestseller written by two progressive journalists with inside knowledge of the failed Hillary Clinton 2016 campaign) we learn how the whole Russia collusion narrative was moved from the 7th floor of FBI headquarters into the media. It’s a pretty stunning admission and one nobody is talking about.

    1. Andrew, if you go to Amazon Books you could better tell us which book you are talking about and quote a small sentence. Many times everyone else will be able to read a few pages about it.

    1. William, the only question is why should we be surprised? These idiots have been running the country to the ground and spew lie after lie even after so many lies have been proven wrong.

      The fuel these guys must use in their brains must be the same fuel that makes sailboats sail.

      1. ChuckG, you mentioned Breitbart so I figured you would be interested in one of today’s Breitbart headlines.

        Food Stamp Enrollment Drops by 1.3 Million in Two Months

        People have jobs. Isn’t that something to cheer about?

        1. It’s been declining for a few years after increases due to the recession

          1. You do know what caused the recession, right? You do know how Obama’s policies were mostly poorly thought out and Obamacare made the job market worse, right?

    1. Only stupid people latch onto this crap time after time and never realize that they are being taken for a ride. If everyone had to pay every time what they said was proven to be wrong a lot of these leftists would be bankrupt financially. They are already bankrupt emotionally, morally, and ethically

  9. While discussing the 10-year-old accusation of Trump I thought it might interest a few about how hard it is to get similar discovery about Obama people and Obama himself.

    A lot of the leftists on this blog seem to be voyeurs so perhaps this bit about up-skirt might interest them.

    “A White House official convicted for videotaping and photographing up women’s skirts on government time received numerous rapid promotions and pay increases in a short time, records obtained by Judicial Watch show.

    It marks yet another case of a handsomely paid senior government employee behaving badly. In this case, the public official rose through the ranks unusually fast during the Obama administration until he got arrested for taking up-skirt pictures and videos of random women on the escalators of the Washington D.C. metro.”

    Contued at:

    http://jw.structure.email/corruption-chronicles/obama-white-house-official-guilty-of-voyeurism-got-many-rapid-promotions-pay-hikes?utm_source=deployer&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=corruption+chronicles&utm_term=members&utm_content=20180509215043

  10. I’m delighted that Jon Turley has decided to become a presstitute for the Anal Queen on a full-time basis. When the Anal Queen and her attorney Avenatti are proven to be frauds, Mr. Turley will try to distance himself from the Anal Queen, but it will be too late. “Marriage” to the Anal Queen, like type 2 herpes, is forever.

    1. ralph

      your ignorance is stunning. you either simply don’t know anything about Avenatti or you do know and are acting intentionally dumb. not impressive. fake news.

    2. George Will, the last honorable connection to William F. Buckley remaining in the party once known as Republican, lays out the bitter truth of what the gullible rubes, dupes and clan-wannabes have done as he describes the most unpopular politician in America, it’s pure artistry:

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trump-is-no-longer-the-worst-person-in-government/2018/05/09/10e59eba-52f1-11e8-a551-5b648abe29ef_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.d68261c6db8a

      1. George Will turning on his own. Let us not forget he willingly stirs up these dupes and rubes when it is to his benefit. TRump is too vulgar for the country club types but he is accomplishing their agenda.

    1. How about a legitimate source?

      And if this is true, then MA definitely needs to issue a public apology. Obviously, most of the transactions have been verified but it still doesn’t excuse sloppiness on the others.

      2. Further, the U.S. Treasury Department has now opened an internal Inspector General investigation to see if they can find out who accessed the records, conducted an unauthorized search under the search name “Michael Cohen”, and unlawfully passed the results to the porn star’s lawyer, Michael Avenatti.

        WASHINGTON – The Treasury Department’s inspector general is investigating whether confidential banking information related to a company controlled by President Trump’s personal attorney Michael Cohen may have been leaked, a spokesman said.

        1. I’m remembering the IRS creature who turned confidential information about the National Organization for Marriage over to bodies of the gay lobby. Don’t think he was ever punished. #Obama for America.

  12. THE MOST FASCINATING TRUMP-RELATED STORY YET

    DON JUNIOR’S WIFE DATED LATINO GANGSTER FOR YEARS!

    AND NOW, AMID BITTER DIVORCE, TRUMP FAMILY GOES PUBLIC WITH STORY

    According to Talking Points Memo, the Trump family put “The New York Post” onto this story in an effort to sully the name of Don Junior’s soon-to-be divorced wife. It’s actually a fascinating tale. Vanessa Trump was a rich, 15 year old high school student when the fell in love with the Latin son of an Upper East Side Building Superintendent. Their relationship continued for years until he found out she was dating actor Leonardo Dicaprio.

    No wonder Don Senior dislikes Latino gangsters so much! The mother of his grandchildren dated a Latin King!

    https://pagesix.com/2018/05/08/vanessa-trumps-first-love-was-member-of-violent-street-gang/?utm_source=facebook_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons

    1. @Peter Hill May 9, 2018 at 4:25 PM ”
      “THE MOST FASCINATING TRUMP-RELATED STORY YET[!]
      “DON JUNIOR’S WIFE DATED LATINO GANGSTER FOR YEARS!
      “AND NOW, AMID BITTER DIVORCE, TRUMP FAMILY GOES PUBLIC WITH STORY[!]”

      Peter, you really just must consider a career as an online gossip columnist. You’ve got the temperament, the sociological interests, the contacts, and the intellectual chops to be at least a medium-speed quidnunc.

      Just one thing: you missed several chances in this back-fence buster to use exclamation marks, which reduced somewhat the ontological significance of your revelations. Other than that, Bravo in a double twaddle basket!

      A Latin King and Leonardo DiCaprio! You must have had multiple eargasms when you heard that!

      Thanks for sharing THE MOST FASCINATING TRUMP-RELATED STORY YET!!

      1. Ken, that newspaper is owned by Rupert Murdoch, owner of Fox News. Why did they print the story??? Answer: “Trump wanted them to”.

        1. ” Why did they print the story??? Answer: “Trump wanted them to”.”

          Peter, are you able to provide a source or is this just more of your malarky?

        2. @Peter Hill May 10, 2018 at 1:49 AM
          “Ken, that newspaper is owned by Rupert Murdoch, owner of Fox News. Why did they print the story??? Answer: ‘Trump wanted them to.’ ”

          Well, even though you weren’t the original source (gossips seldom are) of THE MOST FASCINATING TRUMP-RELATED STORY YET!, you bravely called this bombshell-which-changes-everything to the attention of readers here, so credit where credit’s due. 🙂

  13. Dietrich Bonhoeffer certainly understood the minions dutifully following the progressive movement. This article would go very well with Kant’s What is Enlightenment. Good luck getting those Bonhoeffer was talking about to connect the dots. 🙂

    The fact that the stupid person is often stubborn must not blind us to the fact that he is not independent. In conversation with him, one virtually feels that one is dealing not at all with a person, but with slogans, catchwords and the like that have taken possession of him. He is under a spell, blinded, misused, and abused in his very being. Having thus become a mindless tool, the stupid person will also be capable of any evil and at the same time incapable of seeing that it is evil. This is where the danger of diabolical misuse lurks, for it is this that can once and for all destroy human beings.

    https://religiousgrounds.wordpress.com/2016/05/11/bonhoeffer-on-stupidity-entire-quote/

  14. Please, JT, hurry up with your article on the payments made to Mr. Cohen’s LLC for his “expertise.”

  16. TRUMP THREATENS MEDIA IN PRE-DAWN TWEET

    TWEET COULD BE REACTION TO EVENTS SURROUNDING MICHAEL COHEN

    Trump just tweeted that it might be time to “take away credentials” from some news media. He cited a report claiming that “91% of the Network News about me is negative (Fake).” Trump explicitly defined all merely negative stories about him as “fake.” This is basically a declaration that the news media’s efforts to hold him accountable are inherently illegitimate, or at least are grounds for retributive action. Is Trump even capable of imagining that criticism of him flows from the crucial institutional role the press plays in our democracy? This sort of thing isn’t mere bluster: It has convinced a majority of Republicans that the press is the “enemy of the people.”

    Text edited from “The Plum Line” by Greg Sargent

    Today’s WASHINGTON POST

    1. Der trumpenfuehrer was on fire this morning, Whats next? shooting drug addicts?

  17. Porn star payoffs, incompetence, bribes, slush funds, money laundering, will never take down Trump among his tribal willfully blind apparatchiks because they admire kakistocracy. FOX NEWS and others have worked for years to make the cabal of trumpanzees because the right-wing does not want their supporters to know that they are the ones who move jobs oversees, keep wages low, and make filth of our water and air. So all of you just keep cheering on Trump and wave your flags when Trump and Bibi start a war in the middle east, If you cannot see that you have been played and conned, I really do feel sorry for you because it will be our nation and yourselves that will be hurt the most.

    1. LOL! You are a hoot. Rational is not your strong suit. Try this one on for size; imagine just how anti-American the Left has become when the leader of North Korea is more interested in negotiating with President Trump than the Democrats.

      1. Why not? The dear leader in North Korea has more in common with Trump then anybody else.

        2. Using your logic, Obama has more in common with the Iranian mullahs than anybody else.

          Your turn.

          1. You have formidable obstacles when it comes to humor. Apologies for the frivolity.

            1. A crusty old Chief found himself at a gala event downtown, hosted by a local (strictly women’s) liberal arts college. There was no shortage of extremely young, idealistic ladies in attendance, one of whom approached the Chief for conversation. She said, Excuse me, sir, but you seem to be a very serious man. Are you this way all the time, or is something bothering you.
              No, the Chief said, just serious by nature.

              The young lady looked at his awards and decorations and said, It looks like you have seen a lot of action.

              The Chief’s short reply was, Yep, a lot of action.

              The young lady, tiring of trying to start up a conversation, said, You know, you should lighten up a little – relax and enjoy yourself.

              The Chief just stared at her in his serious manner.

              Finally the young lady said, You know, I hope you don’t take this the wrong way, but when is the last time you had sex.

              The chief continued to stare at her and replied, 1955.

              She said, Well, there you go; you really need to chill out and quit taking everything so seriously – I mean, no sex since 1955, isn’t that a little extreme.

              The Chief, glancing at his watch, said in his matter-of-fact voice, Oh, I don’t know. It’s only 2130 now!

              I just don’t find soft coups humorous.

      2. What does the leader of North Korea want?

        Attention? Celebrity? Trips to glamorous foreign capitols? Legitimacy? ..Or ‘all of the above’?

        1. See, it’s that kind of negotiating skills that had Obama dumping a pallet of cash in Iran in exchange for their unverifiable agreement to halt their nuclear enrichment/arms program.

          1. Unverifiable? Even Trump’s buddies the Ruskies were in on that deal. Oh, and France and GB, and China and etc etc.

            1. 🙂 Inspectors would have been allowed in with what, 26 days notice? Not quite an FBI no-knock raid.

        2. Trump will most likely give the codes up for some beach front property for his new Trump Tower. He’s gotta make a buck ya know.

        3. We are not sure what the leader of North Korea wants, but we will find out. That is something the Democrats came close to. Hopefully, Trump will succeed in denuclearizing North Korea but that is something not wanted by the Democrats because it puts them in a bad political position despite the fact it would enhance world security.

          We knew what the Iranians wanted, nuclear weapons and Obama gave it to them along with 150Billion dollars that stabilized the regime. This is what Democrats applaud, terrorist regimes with nuclear weapons.

          We know where you stand Peter. It isn’t in the interest of Americans or the world. Your petty desires are all you care about.

          2. Allan how is that you always sound like mean-spirited old man? I visualize you as Mr Potter from “It’s A Wonderful Life”; just a nasty old guy who likes to yell at people.

            1. “Allan how is that you always sound like mean-spirited old man?”

              That is what you get when you act in an asinine fashion. I actually think you are very mean-spirted in the fashion you refer to Trump. You use innuendo and leave out the facts. Originally, I thought otherwise but after a period of time one takes note of your lack of fair play.

            2. Allan how is that you always sound like mean-spirited old man?

              You say that like it’s a bad thing.

    2. “kakistocracy” DEFINITION—Government under the control of a nation’s worst or least-qualified citizens. Of course this actually refers to 2009-2017(The years when the country was run by Obama and his gangsters!)

      “apparatchiks” DEFINITION–apparatchik—A member of a Communist Party apparat. An official in a large political organization.

      Used in a sentence—‘Old apparatchiks have given way to the Russian government’s young reformers’.

      SO TRUMP SUPPORTERS ARE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNIST PARTY OR ARE ALL OFFICIALS IN A POLITICAL ORGANIZATION?? WHAT??

      Trumpanzee DEFINITION–A person who has a blind, cult-like admiration and devotion to the worst President in American history, Donald Trump. Trumpanzees verbally
      attack people who contradict their narrow outlook on life. If you argue
      reasonably against Trump’s racist, xenophobic and misogynistic politics,
      you are called a snowflake. If you mention anything you’ve read in The
      New York Times or have seen on CNN, a Trumpanzee would label it fake news.

      Trumpanzees tend to be fat, pasty-faced high school dropouts who:
      Live in the suburbs of Palookaville;
      Read the National Enquirer and some fake news site that blames Obama for America’s problems;
      Watch Fox News, Maury, Jerry Springer and NASCAR;
      Either work part-time at McDonald’s or fake illness for a monthly check from the government;
      Use bad grammar and frequent f-words on social media – then call other people idiots; and
      Pop out future McDonald’s workers, carnies, pole and lap dancers, baby mamas and daddies, and other useless people, often having a trailer
      full of kids with different fathers.

      Trumpanzees are also known for their low IQs, almost laughable devotion to God, and getting their 15 minutes of fame on the People of Walmart website wearing either ridiculous clothes or nothing at all.

      ONLY A DERANGED MIND COULD BELIEVE THAT THIS TERM AND ITS DEFINITION WOULD DESCRIBE THE 62 MILLION AMERICANS WHO VOTED FOR TRUMP!

      “when Trump and Bibi start a war in the middle east”–This would mean the destruction of Israel, and that Bibi supports the destruction of Israel! THE STATEMENT IS OUTRAGEOUS AND ANYONE WHO BELIEVES IT HAS OBVIOUS CEREBRAL DYSFUNCTION!

      1. I’m sure it sounded better in the original Russian text.

    3. The easy marks have a difficult time acknowledging that they were conned. Watching how easily Trump manipulated them at rallies was instructive.

        1. Both of my statements are true.

          And, I’m as tired of toying with you today as I was yesterday so it’s time to say goodnight. No point in responding to your inanity any more.

  18. If there are any attorneys on this blog, please tell us if cases are ever thrown out due to technical/procedural errors by prosecutors.

    Regarding Manafort’s claim of “being pursued by the wrong cops,” as Professor Turley phrases it, and the severe admonitions by Judge T.S. Ellis III of Mueller’s team, it would seem that a fraudulent appointment of a special prosecutor without a crime or probable cause and the subsequent investigation of a person not a crime constitute abuse of power and malicious prosecution which are crimes and crimes of high office and grounds for dismissal.

    Professor Turley, can you see the forest for the trees? This entire “Mueller Inquisition” is not only a gross miscarriage of justice, it is weaponization of the DOJ/FBI as corruption at best, and subversion as a coup d’etat at worst.

    “We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America.”

    – Barry Soetoro

    Speaking of a coup d’etat, if Moochelle Obama is America’s “Forever First Lady,” is Obama America’s “Forever President?” Let’s ask John Kerry, Hillary, Clapper, Brennan, Comey, McCabe, Wray, Rosenstein, Lynch, Rice, Strzok, Page, Baker, Power, Yates, Ohr, Steele, Simpson, Farkas, Huma, Lerner et al. if they are “America’s Forever Administration.”

    1. George: please stop watching Fox News, or at least question the tripe they spew. There not only was probable cause, but Manafort and Flynn pleaded guilty. It has just come to light that Cohen received $500 K from a Russian oligarch. What was that for?

      Fox keeps claiming there’s no probable cause or a crime as to Trump, but they don’t know what Mueller and his team have. There is no “weaponizing” of the DOJ or FBI. This is some of the Hannity rhetoric. BTW: Mueller has always been a Republican.

      2. Fox News is TRUE NEWS. CNN, MSNBC, CBS, NBC, NYT, WP are all FAKE NEWS. I prefer TRUE NEWS!

  19. JFK, Monster

    By Timothy Noah

    “I knew that John F. Kennedy was a compulsive, even pathological adulterer, given to taking outlandish risks after he entered the White House. I knew he treated women like whores. And I knew he had more than a few issues with his father about toughness and manliness and all that. But before I read in the newspaper that Mimi Alford’s just-released memoir, Once Upon A Secret: My Affair With President John F. Kennedy And Its Aftermath, described giving Dave Powers a blow job at JFK’s request and in his presence, I didn’t know that Kennedy had an appetite for subjecting those close to him to extreme humiliation.”
    ____________________________________________________________________________________

    “Clinton pays Paula Jones $850,000”
    Associated Press

    “WASHINGTON (AP) – Paula Jones is awaiting the arrival of an $850,000 cheque from President Clinton, bringing an official end to the four-year saga spurred by her allegations of sexual harassment.”
    ____________________________________________________________________________________

    “FDR and His Women”

    “… she was deeply wounded to discover that Franklin had been having an affair with her secretary, Lucy Mercer.”
    ____________________________________________________________________________________

    Bill Clinton as enabled by Hillary Clinton

    1. Eileen Wellstone (1969) Allegation: Sexual assault
    2. Anonymous female student at Yale University (1972) Allegation: Sexual assault
    3. Anonymous female student at the University of Arkansas (1974) Allegation: Sexual assault
    4. Anonymous female lawyer (1977) Allegation: Sexual assault
    5. Juanita Broaddrick (1978) Allegation: Rape
    6. Carolyn Moffet (1979) Allegation: Sexual assault
    7. Elizabeth Ward (1983) Allegation: Unclear
    8. Sally Perdue (1983) Allegation: Unclear
    9. Paula Jones (1991) Allegation: Sexual harassment
    10. Sandra Allen James (1991) Allegation: Sexual assault
    11. Christy Zercher (1992) Allegation: Sexual assault
    12. Kathleen Willey (1993) Allegation: Sexual assault

    2. George: stop the Kellyanne pivoting. JFK has been dead for decades. Bill Clinton has been out of office for decades. None of their peccadillos has any relevance to Trump or his criminal activities.

    3. So George, are these unrelated tidbits supposed to make so-called leftists hyperventilate with humility?

      Not only are you reaching back 20-30 years with Clinton, but 60 years with JFK and 80 years with FDR

      2. These tidbits reflect on your character or lack of character for you completely neglect Hillary Clintons enabling of Bill Clinton’s acts which were vicious and involved character assassination of the female victims. Hillary ran against Trump while people of your ilk were silent and now are so concerned with an act that may or may not have occurred 10 years ago while Bill Clinton was doing his business in the White House.

        What separates your ilk from those you argue with are character, morality, and ethics. You guys don’t seem to have any of these in a positive fashion

        1. And Allan I’m sure you’re the rich old man at your church who makes decisions on the hiring and firing of pastors. You have a special pew right up front where no one else can sit.

          1. Actually, when I go to things of that nature I sit in the back to stay away from those that stab others in the back so they can sit up front. You strike me as that type of guy.

  20. The problem for Trump is that the Daniels controversy could supply the obstruction case that has long evaded special counsel Robert Mueller. – JT

    You do you, Mr. T, and maybe you’ll get that judgeship.

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