University of Exeter Apologizes For Use of Inspirational Quote From Erwin Rommel

Exeter_University_Crest_Colour400px-Bundesarchiv_Bild_146-1977-018-13A,_Erwin_Rommel(brighter)The University of Exeter has had the embarrassing task for apologizing for its distribution of an inspiration quote to students that “One cannot permit unique opportunities to slip by for the sake of trifles.”  The problem is that the quote is from General Erwin Rommel.  What should be the most alarming aspect of this story is not the use of the Rommel quote but that the university personnel did not know who the “Desert Fox” was.

As a military history nut, I cannot let the story pass without noting that the quote actually came from the North African campaign. In the campaign, Rommel was subordinate to Italian commander-in-chief General Italo Gariboldi who had ordered Rommel to stop his drive against the British at Mersa El Brega.  Rommel instead pushed the British out of Benghazi and when Gariboldi severely reprimanded him for insubordination, Rommel responded “One cannot permit unique opportunities to slip by for the sake of trifles.”

According to Sky News, the National Union of Students issued a statement that the use of the Rommel quote added to the feeling of Jewish students that they are unsafe on campus.

Rommel certainly did lead the Afrika Korps to sweeping battlefield victories but he was not viewed as a Hitler follower.  Indeed, a Nazi tribunal found that he was complicit in the conspiracy to kill Hitler on July 20, 1944.  Two generals came to Rommel with the choice of surrendering for a trial or taking his own life. To protect his family and staff, he killed himself.


74 thoughts on “University of Exeter Apologizes For Use of Inspirational Quote From Erwin Rommel”

  1. According to Sky News, the National Union of Students issued a statement that the use of the Rommel quote added to the feeling of Jewish students that they are unsafe on campus.

    How in the world can words spoken 77 years ago make anyone feel unsafe anywhere.

    You pathetic children trapped in adult bodies may you understand the folly of your ways sooner rather than later.

    In a world based upon reason all members of the National Union of Students would be sent off for remedial nursery rhymes:

    Sticks and stones may break your bones but words can never hurt you.

    1. How in the world can words spoken 77 years ago make anyone feel unsafe anywhere.

      They get positive feedback for displays of borderline personality disorder, so you get more of it.

    1. David Benson owes me four citations after five weeks, one from the OED, and the source of a quotation – Think really hard. Do you think the Tooth Fairy took it because you still owe me citations?

        1. David Benson owes me four citations after five weeks, one from the OED, and the source of a quotation – tsk. tsk. Temper. Temper.

  2. But I thought he was one of the “good Nazis”?
    Yeah, him and Albert Speer.
    Wasn’t there some propaganda movie about him too, Rutger Hauer?

      1. Not only that I have never heard of any accusations of any sort of war crimes being committed by any of the forces he commanded.

        1. Hard to know during the battle for Normandy. Allied forces did towards the end of that campaign.

      2. I will be going to Germany in July, and will visit the grave of Rommel in Herrlingen. Perhaps some from U or Exeter should accompany me. Also, on my itinerary are the graves of Manfred von Richthofen, Field Marshall Erich von Manstein and Richard Wager.

        1. Edited.

          I will be going to Germany in July, and will visit the grave of Rommel in Herrlingen. Perhaps some from U of Exeter should accompany me. Also, on my itinerary are the graves of Manfred von Richthofen, Field Marshal Erich von Manstein and Richard Wagner.

          1. Have a great time in Bayreuth. There’s a lot more to do there than just see Haus Wahnfried, where Wagner was buried. The Opera Haus was just recently reopened after extensive renovations. The Lohengrin Thermal bath great place to relax. Lots of good restaurants and beer gardens, too!

    1. There were no ‘good Nazis’. Speer was in control of the armaments industry that used slave labor, worked them to death. Von Braun did the same, worked tens of thousands to death: no food, no sleep, just a steady supply of corpses leaving and walking dead coming in. But, hey, he made the cover of Time magazine.

      1. According to Wikipedia, Wehner von Braun had no way to influence the use of prisoners.

  3. What typically fails to be understood in these instances of correcting history or blocking out reality, is that pretty much everything has been said many times over. Rommel probably jacked the statement from someone he encountered in his studies. So, does the reiteration of something profound, by someone who is no longer known, demand that it never be used as a reference point? If one researches, if only in a cursory manner, the pre-Socratic fragments that come down to us from a few thousand years ago, one will come across just about every famous and/or infamous quote.

  4. Even Churchill paid tribute to Rommel as a “great general.” I have not seen anything to indicate that Rommel was an anti-Semite or did anything to persecute Jews, especially later in the war when he commanded the French coastal area where the Allies were expected to invade.

    1. Furthermore—that EXACT ***SENTIMENT*** was expressed by Obumer Hussein!!!! Did not Obama say something to the effect “Do not let a crisis go, it is a time for opportunity”?

      If Hitler and Rommel said, 2+2=4, Logic of the Leftist Libtards would say we would now have to reject Mathematics—because—-because Hitler used Mathematics! ou.ou.ou.

      I had this posted on my user page on the now defunct Wikinfo site:

      “Democracy is the road to socialism.” Karl Marx
      “Democracy is indispensable to socialism.” Vladimir Ilyich Lenin
      “Modern Socialism is inseperable from political democracy.” Elements of Socialism, (1912) pg 337.
      “The view that democracy and Socialism are inwardly related spread far and wide in the decades which preceded the Bolshevist revolution. Many came to believe that democracy and Socialism meant the same thing, and that democracy without Socialism or Socialism without democracy would not be possible.” Socialism, Ludwig von Mises, pg 67.

      Notice I quote the author of the most bloody genocidal ideology of International Socialism, Karl Marx. Karl Marx and Friedrick Engels called for the Genocide of reactionary peoples and classes!!! I quote him with no problem. Many Catholics, Orthodox and Monarchists were victims of Karl Marx’s bloody genocidal ideology.

      He spoke a Truth. I, as a traditional Catholic and Monarchist, would have been a victim of his. I have NO problem quoting from him. No one said “Boo” about me quoting a Genocidal idiot.

      But when I posted this to add to the list above:

      “The Western democracy of today is the forerunner of Marxism which without it would not be thinkable.” Adolf Hitler as a young man watching the Social Democracy marches in Vienna. (Mein Kampf, pg 78. Manheim translation, Mariner paperback)

      The sysop of Wikinfo immediately banned me from the site. And deleted all my work!

      Truth is Truth. No matter who speaks it. And that Truth offends people—well, not only are they snowflakes but they are ingenious cunning reprobates. Rommel spoke a Truth, a commonsense one at that. If one has a problem with Truth and commonsense, then one hates Truth.

      Hypocrisy is a sign of evil. The sysop of Wikinfo had NO problem with me quoting Karl Marx. But when I quoted Hitler, that was persona-non-grata. This is how some people “CONTROL” our discourse and subvert history and knowledge. We live under a tyranny.

      1. I got it now, Obumer Hussein said, “Don’t let a crisis go to waste”!!!! That commonsense statement and Rommel’s quip is ensconced in the Latin, Seize the Day, Carpe Diem.

        Now I think we need to expunge all things Obummer, Rommel and all Romans.

        1. I believe it was Rahm Emmanuel who said that (‘ere the Chicago electorate in its wisdom granted said rude and crooked incompetent the mayroalty).

          1. Nutchacha, you are right. It was Emmanuel. But another guy at another blog, a TJ Hessmon wrote: [quote]The “Political” use of the phrase “Never let a good crisis go to waste” is based upon the points made in Saul Alinsky’s rules for radicals, page 89, in the section marked communication “in the arena of action, a threat or a crisis becomes almost a precondition to communication”

            Taking advantage of any crisis whether real or manufactured is a common tool used by those waging war in antithesis.(often incorrectly referred to as Political purposed). When used in this way, crisis and its extreme amplification as “thinking and acting as a group”, is no longer a tactic of protest but instead a tactic of ideological subversion, which is used to bring about totalitarian government control, via Socialism or Communism.[/quote] (ref: )

            I found TJ’s observations quite succinct. That is exactly what is going on. The “War of Antithesis”.

  5. Don’t see that they should apologize. It is a good quote, irrespective of who first uttered it.

  6. Professor Turley notes that Rommel was subordinate to an Italian general. Which raises an interesting point: ‘the invasion of North Africa was Mussolini’s idea’. He was trying to recreate the old Roman empire.

    In other words, Hitler was not completely responsible for W.W. II in Europe and North Africa. The ambitions of Joseph Stalin figured as well. He and Mussolini weren’t allies, of course. But the share of trouble started by Stalin and Mussolini was equal to Hitler’s.

  7. Erwin Rommel was just a general in the army doing what good generals do.

    Compare with Scipio Africanus Minor.

  8. One of my most recommended interviews, and one I surely propose be shown to high school children during history instruction is Errol Morris’ The Fog of War.

    The film presents personal reflections of Robert McNamara and lessons he derives from his experiences in relation to opposition between individuals and nations, and human nature. Why this strikes me as being so important to teach youth is that few and eventually none will have the opportunity to know Mr. McNamara’s G.I. Generation cohorts, their culture and application of their thinking. It is not explicitly mentioned but if one takes this advice prior to watching they can surely understand their thinking and what led to their actions, which is one of the his recommendations though not expressed as being of his generation.

    As others suggested here. Failing to understand others’ words and actions within the context of their station and times for which they lived is not only a loss of knowledge, but it can be dangerous in that we repeat many mistakes or allow others to deathly control others.

    In The Fog of War, Mr. McNamara quotes a conversation he had with Curtis Lemay, commander of the Army Air Force wing responsible for firebombing Tokyo and many other cities resulting in greater numbers of immediate death than the atomic raids. General Lemay expressed that if his side had lost the war he and others would have been tried as war criminals. And he was likely right. In modern warfare it is the victors who become the judges of the vanquished regardless of what actually happened and who was the perpetrator. I believe that many of these students and others fail to recognize this fact and their definition of evil follows this guide.

    Various German and Japanese officials were tried and executed as the result of military and civil tribunals after their nations surrendered. Yet no mention is made of Thomas Ferebee the bombardier aboard the Enola Gay and Kermit Beahan of Bockscar. These men through their own physical actions in throwing a switch killed more human beings as a direct result of these actions than any other two human beings. This was not of course through command or directions as in the case of government leaders or generals but they essentially were the trigger men.

    And yet, despite these facts, few individuals today know of these men much less assign them to the ranks of war criminals.

    Yet while Field Marshal Rommel commanded, he was still a functionary of the German military, and more realistically he was also a man just the same as any other in the succinct sense.

    1. Darren Smith – when Waffen SS colonel, Otto Skorzeny was considered for trial as a war criminal, several Allied officers offered to testify on his behalf. I am sure the same would have happened had Rommel survived the war. Patton would have testified for him for sure. 😉 Check the Dachau Trials section of the article.

    2. General Lemay. A commander of the formation known as a wing is a general.

    3. Darren,…
      Gen. LeMay was an interesting character.
      He is sometimes thought to be the “model”, or inspiration for, the George C. Scott character in “Dr. Strangelove”.
      Or maybe a composite of Scott’s character and Gen. Jack Ripper, played by Sterlin Hayden.
      LeMay was a pioneer in the early days of aviation, and was considered brilliant as a military strategist and “problem solver”.
      He was a superb pilot and navigator, and still in his 30s as a General in WWII.
      First in the European theater, then the Pacific.
      He also was a key figure in forming the Strategic Air Command in the 1950s.
      I’ve read that LeMay was likely the best man for the job in revamping the USAF in the nuclear age.
      He was in the JFK administration as Air Force Chief of Staff, reputed to be recklessly aggressive ( especially his disputes with JFK during the Cuban Missle Crisis).
      From studying LeMay and this period, I think both JFK and RFK thought that LeMay was something of a loose cannon, but preferred having LeMay connected with the administration rather than publically attacking JFK as an outside critic.
      They also recognized his status as military expert and architech of SAC.
      Had LeMay left public life after forming SAC, and stayed out of politics, I think his reputation would have been much better.
      But his clashes with JFK, and then his VP candidacy with George Wallace in 1968, largely overshadowed LeMay’s earlier accomplishments.
      After 1968, he faded from public life and lived quietly until his late 80s, I think.
      Interesting and controversial figure; I read one military historian with the view that if faced with an insolvable (military/ strategic) problem, you’d call on LeMay to solve it.
      Didn’t mean to digress so much, but your mention of LeMay reminded me of some things that I’d learned about him.

      1. Tom Nash – that is what I have read about LeMay, great strategist, lousy Chief of Staff. A perfect example of the Peter Principal.

        1. Paul C. Schulte,…
          I saw a video clip of LeMay at a gathering with running mate George Wallace.
          LeMay was musing about how we may overstate the dangers of using nukes in war, and said something to the effect that “these rats and some other wildlife were still healthy” after the above ground Pacific island tests we conducted, common until the 1963? Nuclear Test Ban Treaty.
          Wallace overheard LeMay and got an “oh, sh!t” look on his face.
          Wallace hurried over to LeMay, said something like “I think what the General means is….”.
          The expression on Wallace’s face when he heard what LeMay said what priceless.😄

          1. Paul C. Schulte,….
            I have a pretty good idea of what Gen. LeMay thought of JFK, LBJ, and McNamara.
            And it’s likely that FDR deferred to LeMay’s judgement during WWII.
            An interesting question for me is the relationship LeMay had with Truman and Eisenhower….I’ve seen very little about that.
            My guess is that it was far less contentious than his dealings with JFK,LBJ, and Mac.
            I think LBJ dropped LeMay about a year after JFK was assassinated.
            Or LeMay quit on his own.
            SOME of the advice LeMay might have given to LBJ and McNamara would have had value, given LeMay’s known excellence as a strategist and tactician.
            I’m not talking about policy or overall management of the Vietnam War.
            But I think LeMay’s input on effective use of air power should have been considered.
            Modification of the LBJ/MCNamara “bombing policy”, (targets selected and prohibited) was probably warranted; not a wholesale adoption of LeMay’s advice, but some reliance on LeMay’s knowledge and expertise in the use of air power.

    4. Darren, I saw that movie – interesting, but also creepy – McNamara never took any responsibility for anything. His connections to Ford and all the other companies who made billions off Vietnam are sickening. Rommel was a military hero.

      McNamara was an opportunistic jerk responsible for pointless deaths.

      “He was also a traitor – ordering the fighter jets back on their way to protect the USS Liberty

      Nor, the survivors said, did they understand why the American 6th Fleet, which included the aircraft carriers America and Saratoga, patrolling 400 miles west of the Liberty, launched and then recalled at least two squadrons of Navy fighter-bombers that might have arrived in time to prevent the torpedo attack — and save 26 American lives.

      J.Q. “Tony” Hart, then a chief petty officer assigned to a U.S. Navy relay station in Morocco that handled communications between Washington and the 6th Fleet, remembered listening as Defense Secretary Robert McNamara, in Washington, ordered Rear Adm. Lawrence Geis, commander of the America’s carrier battle group, to bring the jets home.

      When Geis protested that the Liberty was under attack and needed help, Hart said, McNamara retorted that “President [Lyndon] Johnson is not going to go to war or embarrass an American ally over a few sailors.”

      McNamara, who is now 91, told the Tribune he has “absolutely no recollection of what I did that day,” except that “I have a memory that I didn’t know at the time what was going on.”

      “New revelations in attack on American spy ship”

  9. This can be readily applied to our present situation in the USA.

    “One cannot permit unique opportunities to slip by for the sake of trifles.”

    The unique opportunities are readily apparent. The trifles are a comparatively few not useful trifles Page and Strzok for example. Not really useful trifles but just useless.except as examples. Another would be some Governors who have not realized they are suing the federal government over a federal law or do realize and are doing it to obstruct. Either way now useless trifles.

    The method however also known as the tactic or even strategy is all important. They are made to seem to self immolate. and thus are driven out of the way …. as shunned pariahs.

    I see no reason to apologize for Rommel statement the apology should be the students for failing to teach the importance of such statements.

    “It’s not important for them to now when I’m really enraged. I’ts only important that I know.”

    “It’s not important for them to know if I would push a certain button. It’s only important that I know and for them to know I can and would.”

    To reach that state one must demonstrate the Will or willpower such as firing the individual to made the mistake to begin with.

    Lesson learned one goes on with civilized behavior but the lesson remains hanging over head by a Damocletian Thread.

  10. “I love my wife and children.”
    – Erwin Rommel.
    The horror….the horror.

  11. Rommel was considered an honored enemy. The Allies wanted to know where Rommel was, the Axis wanted to know where Patton was.

  12. Rommel was an excellent soldier and tactician, doing a job for his government… just as our generals did for our countries during the second world war as well as before and since. While he may have been on the wrong side, an enemy, that does not mean he was necessarily an evil man.
    Turley is not an apologist, and his article certainly did not read that way. And as for the idiots who were saying that the Jewish students don’t feel safe on campus because the quote was used, they need to grow up.

      1. JH – Das stimmt. Und sein Sohn Manfred war Stuttgarts Oberbürgermeister. Both father and son have an outstanding legacy.

        Manfred Rommel (24 December 1928 – 7 November 2013) was a German politician belonging to the Christian Democratic Union, who served as Mayor of Stuttgart from 1974 until 1996. Rommel’s policies were described as tolerant and liberal, and he was one of the most popular municipal politicians in Germany. He was the recipient of numerous foreign honours. He was the only son of Field Marshal Erwin Rommel and his wife Lucia Maria Mollin (1894–1971), and contributed to the establishment of museums in his father’s honour. He was also known for his friendship with the sons of his father’s two principal military adversaries.

    1. “…an apologist for Rommel? He killed thousands on the battlefield…”

      Rwandan genocide

      “The Rwandan genocide, also known as the genocide against the Tutsi, was a genocidal mass slaughter of Tutsi in Rwanda by members of the Hutu majority government. An estimated 500,000 to 1,000,000 Rwandans were killed during the 100-day period from 7 April to mid-July 1994, constituting as many as 70% of the Tutsi population. Additionally, 30% of the Pygmy Batwa were killed. The genocide and widespread slaughter of Rwandans ended when the Tutsi-backed and heavily armed Rwandan Patriotic Front (RPF) led by Paul Kagame took control of the country. An estimated 2,000,000 Rwandans, mostly Hutus, were displaced and became refugees.

      The genocide was planned by members of the core political elite, many of whom occupied positions at top levels of the national government. Perpetrators came from the ranks of the Rwandan army, the Gendarmerie, government-backed militias including the Interahamwe and Impuzamugambi.”

      That ineffectual milquetoast, Rommel, couldn’t come close to those ambitious Rwandans.

      Good to know.

      1. Then Turley can be an apologist for them as well? Going back to the was being discussed, let’s salute France who conscribed hundreds of thousands of Africans to fight their war and work in their factories, calling them heroes… until the war ended.

        1. “Let the best man for the job do the job.”

          – Anonymous

          It’s kinda like football and basketball juxtaposed with theoretical physics.

      2. Given the starting population of the Tutsi, it would seem that this genocide was proportionally greater than what the nazis did.

    2. It’s not important for you to interpret correctly. It’s only important to know we will interpret the outcome correctly..

      1. At some point in the future it is probable, though uncertain, that humanity will actually bid farewell to arms. We will not achieve this within our lifetimes. Presently, it is collectively in our nature. All we can hope for is to craft a structure in the world’s societies that minimizes the underlying causes that lead to war and the removal of “hair triggers”.

        The atmosphere and zeitgeist of Europe in the 1910s created political and social pressures so tenuous that an ordinary event, a wrong turn, led to the first world war and the deconstruction of European society and governance along with millions of lives destroyed and ramifications lasting generations. That wrong turn involved a vehicle carrying the Archduke of Austria-Este to his assassination. Again the conditions of the time had no safeguarding structure and WWI resulted.

        Conversely, more recently the CIA presented President Clinton several times with the opportunity to assassinate Usama bin Laden during his presidency. Each time he rejected this opportunity and as a result we entered seventeen years of war and a chain of events that unraveled much of the Middle East and others. Though this might seem contradictory to the previous example, by not fully addressing the al-Qaeda threat and taking substantial steps to dismantle a terrorist structure, the world was made worse off.

        1. The Middle East has not been ‘unraveled’. You have over 30 countries in the Near East, North Africa, and Central Asia. There’s a great deal of political violence in six discrete areas over the last 25 years. In one case, it has been ongoing since 1978, in another, it’s the fifth episode of internal rebellion there has been in the last 60 years, and in three other episodes, the violence does not find its origins in the activities of al Qaeda ca. 1998. It’s just a troubled part of the world where people are not adept at building a civil society and political order which doesn’t rely on cohorts of cousins wielding guns.

      2. Maybe we should erect several Nazi war hero statue’s to go alongside the Confederate ones remaining. Nazi’s seem to be experiencing a rise in popularity in this country.

        1. “Maybe we should erect several Nazi war hero statue’s to go alongside the Confederate ones remaining. Nazi’s seem to be experiencing a rise in popularity in this country.”
          Rommel wasn’t a Nazi but courage and adherence to duty are always admirable human traits regardless of who exhibits them. That some see people as only saintly or evil with nothing in between says a lot about them and their black and white world.

          1. “Following World War II, the Western Allies, now locked in an ideological struggle with the Soviet Union, made efforts to resuscitate Germany’s reputation. In so doing, they portrayed Rommel as a chivalrous combatant, pointing out, among other things, that he apparently never joined the Nazi Party. Yet his devotion to Hitler was incontrovertible. When Hitler took power, Rommel approved of his remilitarization plans, calling him the “unifier of the nation.” Later on, as the two men became better acquainted in the lead-up to the invasion of Poland, Rommel wrote to his wife that “the führer knows what is right for us.” He also attended Nazi indoctrination courses and signed his letters “Heil Hitler!” Hitler even gave him an autographed copy of “Mein Kampf.” Only later did Rommel grow disillusioned, believing that Germany must negotiate with the Allies rather than fight to the bitter end.”

            I liked the “devoted to Hitler” part. Does it matter that he didn’t join the Party?

              1. There seems to be considerable doubt about Rommel’s involvement.
                “In the days that followed, Hitler ordered a massive hunt for conspirators which continued for months. This search netted most of the conspirators, along with those who were more peripherally connected such as Field Marshal Erwin Rommel. Rommel’s name arose in interrogations but it was likely he was not directly involved.”


        2. He was a military professional, not implicated in any war crimes, not implicated in the slave labor system, and not implicated in the network of concentration camps. He wasn’t a member of the Nazi Party and he was an associate of Count Stauffenberg. He was not anathematized in the Allied countries in the immediate postwar period. Quite the contrary, as you can see here:

        3. As a Southerner, you, Enigmainblack are quite mistaken and clueless. “Nazi” is an abbreviation for the German phrase National Socialism. National Socialism or Fascism is a Revision of Marxism. (Sternhell, Birth of Fascist Ideology, pg 5). See in order to have “National Socialism” there would have been a need for International Socialism. International Socialism, a bloody genocidal ideology, came first!!!!! Let me make it even more clearer:

          “If there was NO International Socialism—there wouldn’t have been any National Socialism”.

          But your case breaks down even further. The Confederates were defending their way of life and the ability to control that way of Life. Abraham Lincoln was a reader of Karl Marx. Lincoln said, “Labor has to control Capital”. That is Marxism. The New York Herald Tribune, edited by Horace Greeley, published some 400 articles by Marx and Engels!!!

          Abraham Lincoln was a proto-communist.

          The Abolitionists were Gnostic Christians. Slavery is an instutition. It is not morally wrong. These Gnostic Christianity did not want to obey the Tradition of the Church. Marxism is a carrier of Gnosticism. Gnosticism is marked by a hatred of particularity, hatred of Nature, dislike for history, tradition/custom. Karl Marx was a Gnostic. (I point you to the book, “The ‘S’ Word, A Short History of an American Tradition: Socialism”. Great book)

          The evil was in Abraham Lincoln and the Abolitionists. The Righteous were the Confederacy.
          The Confederates were honest, bible-believing Christians.

          The Nazis like their Communist counterparts were Idealists.

          Idealists are cosmopolitans, genociders. That is why the adjective “International” appears before the word Socialist. Cosmopolitans are about ending race/nation. Race/Nation are particularities. To end race/nation is genocide.

          The evil is in International Socialists. The evil is the Globalists. The evil is in those engage in deracination.

          The Confederacy was Honorable and Righteous.

          It is the Liberals the precursors of International Socialists that are morally wrong.

          1. Incoherent and vile prattle, but it looks right on you.

            this is to “even the klan won’t have me, so I just post racist sh*t when I git drunk” wheelerfreak

            1. Mark M. spoken like a true Genocider. The Virtue of Righteousness teaches to do one’s Duty to the Fatherland. I will do my duty. Despite the ravings of the reprobate Globalists, Multiculturalists as yourself.

              The Kan was a Defensive unit against the depredations of Yankee Imperialism and their multiculturalist genocidal ways. The Abolitionists were the first genociders.

              According to MacDonald King-Aston, in his book, “Yankee Babylon”, Lincoln wanted a war to end slavery and used every method to goad the Confederacy to fire the first round. Lincoln being a true liberal was not about to compromise. He hated compromise–being the atheist he was. Lincoln was a jack-booted Thug worthy of his mentor Karl Marx and Friedrick Engels, those International Socialists. Lincoln drank well from them.

              See, Mark, I quote from books that teach history. All you have is snark, vile ad-hominem—the ammunition of a liberal. You can’t fight on facts, on History, what people said, but on ad-hominem. How sad.

              1. Mark is shattered inside and compelled by NPD to lash out.

                To wit,

                Narcissistic personality disorder — one of several types of personality disorders — is a mental condition in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of empathy for others. But behind this mask of extreme confidence lies a fragile self-esteem that’s vulnerable to the slightest criticism.
                A narcissistic personality disorder causes problems in many areas of life, such as relationships, work, school or financial affairs. People with narcissistic personality disorder may be generally unhappy and disappointed when they’re not given the special favors or admiration they believe they deserve. They may find their relationships unfulfilling, and others may not enjoy being around them.
                Treatment for narcissistic personality disorder centers around talk therapy (psychotherapy).


                Signs and symptoms of narcissistic personality disorder and the severity of symptoms vary. People with the disorder can:
                Have an exaggerated sense of self-importance
                Have a sense of entitlement and require constant, excessive admiration
                Expect to be recognized as superior even without achievements that warrant it
                Exaggerate achievements and talents
                Be preoccupied with fantasies about success, power, brilliance, beauty or the perfect mate
                Believe they are superior and can only associate with equally special people
                Monopolize conversations and belittle or look down on people they perceive as inferior
                Expect special favors and unquestioning compliance with their expectations
                Take advantage of others to get what they want
                Have an inability or unwillingness to recognize the needs and feelings of others
                Be envious of others and believe others envy them
                Behave in an arrogant or haughty manner, coming across as conceited, boastful and pretentious
                Insist on having the best of everything — for instance, the best car or office
                At the same time, people with narcissistic personality disorder have trouble handling anything they perceive as criticism, and they can:
                Become impatient or angry when they don’t receive special treatment
                Have significant interpersonal problems and easily feel slighted
                React with rage or contempt and try to belittle the other person to make themselves appear superior
                Have difficulty regulating emotions and behavior
                Experience major problems dealing with stress and adapting to change
                Feel depressed and moody because they fall short of perfection
                Have secret feelings of insecurity, shame, vulnerability and humiliation
                ***When to see a doctor***
                People with narcissistic personality disorder may not want to think that anything could be wrong, so they may be unlikely to seek treatment. If they do seek treatment, it’s more likely to be for symptoms of depression, drug or alcohol use, or another mental health problem. But perceived insults to self-esteem may make it difficult to accept and follow through with treatment.
                If you recognize aspects of your personality that are common to narcissistic personality disorder or you’re feeling overwhelmed by sadness, consider reaching out to a trusted doctor or mental health provider. Getting the right treatment can help make your life more rewarding and enjoyable.
                *** Emphasis

              2. You left out another possibility. Maybe you’re merely a worthless, lonely, left-behind loser who has determined that your sorry lot in life is due to some other racial category, rather than being a perpetually drunken fool. So, you began to frequent obscure racist websites run by other lonely losers to commiserate yourself for your failures; frantically cutting and pasting the vile thoughts of others in the same boat. So you see, you’re really not worth my time; I’m not trying to “argue” (as if), change your mind, or convince you of anything whatsoever. You just keep on going about your same way, getting the same result. Cheers, and bottoms up!

                this is to “how did he know?!” wheelie

        4. Werner von Braun took America to the moon.

          Is there a Werner von Braun statue at Kennedy Space Center?

          Looks like the American Founders thrice iterated their intent in the Naturalization Acts of 1790, 1795 and 1802 that American citizens be “…free white person(s),…” They implemented freedom, free enterprise and self-reliance, not national socialism.

          Looks like America was abducted by some insidious, subversive force from its engineering blueprints.

          1. Look up the Frankfurt School. Or Frankism.

            Yes, America was abducted—subverted. And what allowed that to happen? The foolishness of the liberal Free Speech dogma. Free Speech to let the likes of Horkhiemer, Adorno, Marcuse, Pollack and Fromm to spread their filth.

            America has many genetic defects. I have great amounts of schadenfreude to see that the tools of revolution used to destroy Christendom, destroy Throne and Altar being turned on the past revolutionaries, against the Liberal Founding Father of America. Leftists eat their own. In some respects, I guffaw over the predicament that has fallen America.

            As they say, What goes around—comes around!!!!

            1. Please, please post more of this type of material. It reinforces my smug sense of self-superiority.

              this is to “but everyone of my online friends think the same way I do” wheelie

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