In Search Of The “Happier Prospect”: Trump Moves Toward The Removal Of McGahn and Sessions

160px-Official_Portrait_of_President_Donald_Trump_(cropped)Below is my column in The Hill newspaper on the departure of White House Counsel Don McGahn.  Trump is now strongly suggesting that he may allow Attorney General Jeff Sessions to remain but only until after the approaching November elections.  At that point, the situation could change rapidly and dangerously with a divided Congress.  With the expected departure of both McGahn and Sessions, the next chapter appears a paraphrase of Dick the Butcher in Henry VI ”The first thing we dolet’s kill fire all the lawyers.”  Obviously, much will depend on their replacements but Sessions’ removal (and the reason for the removal) is far more problematic.

Hunter Thompson once remarked that “going to trial with a lawyer who considers your whole lifestyle a crime in progress is not a happy prospect.” President Trump seems to be actively seeking a happier prospect after the November midterm elections.

Trump announced on Twitter that White House counsel Don McGahn would be gone in a matter of weeks, reportedly a surprise to McGahn, who expected to leave but had not settled on a departure date. At the same time, sources say Trump has returned to his earlier internal demands for Attorney General Jeff Sessions to be sacked. Both McGahn and Sessions have clashed with Trump over the Russian investigation, including his push to fire special counsel Robert Mueller.

Trump’s changing of his two top legal figures could represent a more aggressive strategy following midterm elections. It also could represent a far more dangerous stage for the administration. The changes would occur just as current investigations move into a new phase, including a possible Democratic takeover of the House of Representatives. Trump could be looking at immediate calls for his impeachment and most certainly will face a flurry of investigations under a Democratic leadership.

A president clearly is entitled to a White House counsel of his choosing and, despite the criticism, there are good reasons why this might not be a bad time for McGahn to depart. McGahn gave 30 hours of testimony to Mueller and could be in an increasingly difficult position as both a key witness and White House counsel. If Congress or Mueller move aggressively after Nov. 6, McGahn would have to make decisions on disclosures and privilege assertions that directly relate to his own testimony or actions. Or, like Sessions, he would have to recuse himself from critical decisions. He even could be cited as a witness against the president. Trump will need an unencumbered White House counsel who can advise him without reservations or conflicts.

While Trump often seems to confuse the White House counsel with his personal counsel, presidents historically have appointed loyalists to the position. It is a delicate balance between trust and competence. Some White House counsels, like Charles Colson for Richard Nixon or Alberto Gonzales for George W. Bush, were criticized as too closely tied to those president as opposed to the office.

The first White House counsel, then called special counsel, took office in 1943 with Samuel Rosenman under Franklin Roosevelt. Since that time, their quality and turnover have varied greatly. Bill Clinton set the record with six different White House counsels. Lyndon Johnson was second, with five, followed by Richard Nixon and Barack Obama, with four each.

Presidents have a right to choose their counsel, but the same is not true about the attorney general. While presidents have put allies in charge of the Justice Department, it is not solely their choice, as attorneys general must be confirmed by the Senate. Senators of both parties likely would demand an assurance from any replacement for Sessions that Mueller will be allowed to finish his work unimpeded.

The problem is that the replacing of Sessions could create some immediate difficult issues. Absent the conflict in the attorney general, there would be no reason why Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosensteinshould be the ultimate authority over Mueller. Indeed, I have long objected to Rosenstein continuing in that capacity since he is a key witness in the controversy surrounding the firing of James Comey, as well as other aspects of the Russia probe. The investigation could then be put under the supervision of the new attorney general, who would make the decisions as to any expansion of Mueller’s mandate and and other issues.

It is a new level of complication that neither Trump nor the country should welcome. The question is what would be achieved beyond a better working relationship, which is not insignificant, but is an insufficient reason, at this time. Trump would be insane to appoint someone to fire Mueller or derail the investigation. The Senate is unlikely to approve such a person, and the move could put his entire presidency at risk. If there is not going to be a material change, why add to the optics of obstruction?

The best option is to keep Sessions in place. While the two men have a poor relationship, Sessions has been effective in pushing Trump’s agenda at the Justice Department outside of the Russia investigation. In this sense, Trump could take a lesson from Bill Clinton. He clearly disliked and distrusted Attorney General Janet Reno, who ordered the investigation of his administration. But he swallowed hard and kept Reno in place to avoid an act that would have been viewed as retaliatory and obstructionist.

Trump clearly does not fully appreciate what either McGahn or Sessions did for him and his administration. McGahn has been credited with standing firm against Trump’s reported desire to fire both Mueller and Sessions. In doing so, he may well have protected Trump from both impeachment and even indictment in refusing to fire Mueller and others. The same is true of Sessions. He did the right thing in recusing himself, upon the recommendation of career officials at the Justice Department. His ethical action preserved the integrity of the investigation and, potentially, the legacy of the Trump administration if no crimes are found.

Yet, Trump’s rhetoric stands in sharp contrast to his actual actions. It is to Trump’s great credit that he allowed such significant access to his White House counsel without a court challenge, including significant document and testimonial productions. It is almost universally omitted in coverage, but the Trump administration has been far more transparent in this investigation than many of its predecessors. If Trump’s tweets are disregarded, his record of action is largely cooperative in waiving privilege arguments and producing evidence.

Trump would be wise to follow his past course of conduct rather than his ongoing rhetoric. He has a legitimate interest in a new White House counsel to take the reins during the next phase of this investigation. Conversely, he should not change his attorney general. In the end, there is no “happy prospect” likely to be found on the other side of the midterm election. However, there are far, far worse prospects.

Jonathan Turley is the Shapiro Professor of Public Interest Law at George Washington University. You can follow him on Twitter @JonathanTurley.

 

81 thoughts on “In Search Of The “Happier Prospect”: Trump Moves Toward The Removal Of McGahn and Sessions”

  1. Lisa Page, “POTUS wants to know everything we’re doing.”

    Lisa Page, “The texts mean what the texts say.”

    What did Obama know and when did he know it?

    What did Christopher Wray know and when did Christopher Wray know it?

    What did Mueller know and when did Mueller know it?

    We know that Rosenstein and the 7th Floor are guilty of “No. No he won’t. We’ll stop it,” building and protecting “fire walls” and presenting false, fabricated evidence to the FISA court.

    “Malicious prosecution,” abuse of power and subversion are crimes.

    It”s long past time to prosecute the entire complement conducting the Obama Coup D’etat in America.

  2. An unassuming viewpoint seldom seen in the MSM. This will be of special interest to Peter as both the writer and Peter come from the same state.

    The entire article should be read but I recognize that to many of the leftists anyting over a sentence or two becomes a drain on their mental resources so I will copy just one paragraph.

    “In sum, we are witnessing one of the great ironies of the modern age. Minorities who are not Trump supporters are doing better under Trump than any past president, liberal or conservative. Environmentalists who despise him know that America has become more effective than its green European critics in reducing carbon emissions, largely through the breakneck production of natural gas. Diplomats who loathe Trump find their good cop talk and soft power has more resonance once it is backed up by a better military, a better national security team, and an unpredictable commander-in-chief who might just be capable of doing anything at any time to anyone anywhere in the defense of American interests and sovereignty.”

    Trump on the Ground
    Victor Davis Hanson

    https://amgreatness.com/2018/09/02/trump-on-the-ground/

    1. Ho hum. Just another sellout for this charade of an administration because he, like many other authoritarian wackjobs, doesn’t want women to have control of their reproductive systems. They hold their noses trying to shoot a wackjob judge at Roe, thinking they can get off this day glo bozo crazy-train when the time is right. Hanson should stick to ancient history.

      1. Back in your hole again sending sweet nothings. It appears you can’t face the heat like you were forced to face at the http below and multiple other comments on that thread:

        https://jonathanturley.org/2018/09/02/papadopoulos-claims-trump-and-sessions-approved-his-outreach-to-the-russians/comment-page-1/#comment-1776460

        Your finished Mark. We already have seen how you are a blowhard nothing and can only repeat your constant slew of meaningless insults.

        1. Fun times. Who is this “we” you refer to? What, you got a mouse in your pocket; because I doubt you know any real people. Thanks for playin,

          this is to “In my reality, allen/allan is always right” allan/allen

          1. Mark, the we is everyone that can see that you are a coward. You are unwilling and unable to engage in any serious debate. That is why you hide bethind your repetitive nonsense.

            Go back in your hole being your former cowardly self. You are useless.

            1. More fun. As I told you and your ilk previously, I also don’t dialogue with flat-earthers. Your type of mental shortcoming is no different at all from the delusional beliefs of those who think the Earth is flat. Consequently, I’m not trying to “educate” you, “convince” you, “show you the way” or–as if–“debate” you. Rather, I’d like it just fine if you, your ilk, the gullible rubes, dupes, klan-wannabees, pocket traitors and grifters on the make just keep on keepin’ on, ’cause crazy gonna do crazy. I post here for my benefit, and those others who are also entertained and / or interested in hearing the unvarnished truth about the goggle-eyed klown kar posse of the 36% which still supports the antics of the day glo bozo. In short, I point out the ridiculous and delusional positions of you and your ilk by using …. wait for it …. ridicule. Of course, all of this raises the salient question: what is that ticking sound?

              this is to “but I don’t even have a shine-box!” allen / allan

              1. ” I also don’t dialogue with flat-earthers.”

                Then why do you talk to yourself so much and why is all your rhetoric repetitive? I don’t need to learn how to repeat myself over and over again like you do so don’t worry about having to train anyone differently. Your rhetoric sucks. Is that how you write your appeals?

                What a sucky life you live.

              2. Marky Mark Mark – you do not point out anything. You do try to ridicule people, but we are all beyond that. You have nothing to ridicule us with. You are totally unarmed. BTW, does the word “ilk” show up in your appellate briefs? Asking for a friend.

                1. Very nice. I guess by “we” and “us” you mean either the voices in your head or the addle-brained 36%?

                  this is to “what IS that ticking sound?” paulie

                  1. Marky Mark Mark – given the number of people who have responded negatively to you, yes there is a “we.” However, as a demigod, I speak of the royal we. We are not pleased.

  3. president should appoint special counsel to review all DOJ and FBI material requested by JW and Congress to advise him on whether it should be ordered released by them. If needed, the attorney could ask a court to review any claims that information should be withheld. But get the decision out of the DOJ and FBI hands.

  4. It was an impressive omission from Turley to not cite either Holder or Lynch when mentioning a President having loyalists serving, especially as AG.

    The same is true of Sessions. He did the right thing in recusing himself, upon the recommendation of career officials at the Justice Department. His ethical action preserved the integrity of the investigation and, potentially, the legacy of the Trump administration if no crimes are found.

    Integrity? After 2 years, millions of dollars, documented evidence of corruption at the highest levels of the FBI/DOJ, and still searching for a crime involving Russia and only one side of the political ledger; Sessions’ recusal has certainly preserved something, however integrity wouldn’t make it in the top 10.

    1. Haha. Perhaps you could convince hannity to release this mythical “documented evidence of corruption … ?”

      this is to “I gots mo ‘whataboutism’ buts nuttin else” olly

      1. I’m not surprised to find you once again completely whiffing on an opportunity to show some integrity or ethics. You may believe shadow-boxing Hannity is profound, but like most everything else you post, it’s simply a reflection of your OCD.

        Once again, if you work pro bono, your clients are paying too much! 🙂

        1. Mark has no ethics. He has a boring job and is the lacky of the firm. He probably is the one they use to add the supercilious adjectives to the appeals. He had his chance to shine but showed he was nothing more than a low level uneducated jerk.

          ttps://jonathanturley.org/2018/09/02/papadopoulos-claims-trump-and-sessions-approved-his-outreach-to-the-russians/comment-page-1/#comment-177646

        2. More awesomeness. So now, it’s about me …. Whatever happened to this “documented evidence …. ?” That’s what I thought. Thanks for playing. Pro tip: no matter how many “tweets” you send him, hannity’s never gonna answer because he can’t, uh, “locate” his “evidence” at the moment.

          this is to “but he sounded so sincere on the tube” olly

  5. “Trump would be insane to appoint someone to fire Mueller or derail the investigation.”
    Or, to be fair, exceptionally stupid or some combination of the two.

    1. Trump’s actions have been called stupid many times but turned out well. Therefore based on the faulty record of people like wildbull one has to consider that though he makes mistakes many of the perceived mistakes have worked out well.

  6. ” It is to Trump’s great credit that he allowed such significant access to his White House counsel without a court challenge, including significant document and testimonial productions. It is almost universally omitted in coverage”

    ” It is almost universally omitted in coverage”

    That is a major reason the MSM is correctly known as Fake News. That is also a reason that many supporters that might be offended by some of Trump’s actions accept those actions because the President has been transparent while most other Presidents have been secretive hiding their misdeeds.

    It seems those on the left prefer secrecy to transparency.

  7. ”Let’s kill all the lawyers,”

    My understanding is that Shakespeare was referring to unethical lawyers and in fact praising ethical ones. We do have a lot of unethical lawyers starting with Rosenstein who should have recused himself and not been a part in corrupting the FISA process. We also have a bunch of unethical lawyers at the FBI and then we have the Clintons.

  8. Trump is crazy like a fox – knows better than to fire Sessions, Rat Roenstein, Muler etc and was right (and within his rights) to fire girly-man/leaker Jim Comey. By not firing Sessions et al Trump is free to rightfully criticize the one-sided investigation initiated without specific probable cause. Trump was dealt bad cards and is working masterfully with what he has to work with which is driving lefty loony toons to commit emotionally-driven unforced errors.

  9. Life is too short. I have had enough of this Russian apCray. I am going South for the winter and avoid CNN, KGB, CSPAN, FOX et al.

  10. “Yet, Trump’s rhetoric stands in sharp contrast to his actual actions. It is to Trump’s great credit that he allowed such significant access to his White House counsel without a court challenge, including significant document and testimonial productions. It is almost universally omitted in coverage, but the Trump administration has been far more transparent in this investigation than many of its predecessors. If Trump’s tweets are disregarded, his record of action is largely cooperative in waiving privilege arguments and producing evidence.”

    But yet still no charges of collusion. Two damn years and millions of taxpayer dollars on a case that has turned into a quest to catch people contradicting their memory so they can be charged with obstruction of justice of a crime that never happened or lying to a prosecutor because they can’t remember every single word said to every single person on every single day of their lives because no human can! So far the only thing they’ve found is corruption at the highest level of the FBI, Justice department, DNC and the Clinton campaign and yet this badgering of an elected president continues. If all these great attorneys and investigators can’t get this done in two years they should be all be fired for incompetence. As Professor Turley has stated in the past, they are investigating a person iin search of a crime which they still haven’t found. This really needs to stop. As Obama would say “This isn’t who we are.”

    1. Pamela Barber – guesstimates are in the $20 millions spent by Mueller and his merry band.

        1. L4Yoga enables David Benson, R. Lien and Marky Mark Mark – that is slightly more that $1 million per attorney working on the team. They refuse to give an accounting, even though Judicial Watch has filed for numbers.

          1. Are you seriously suggesting that all of the money goes to the lawyers and none of the money is spent on anything else like staff, computers, rent and the like?

            Here’s an idea: Trump said that whatever money raised for the inaugural wasn’t spent on the inaugural would be donated to charity. The figure of $50 million has been bandied about. What better charity than The Office of the Special Counsel could Tom Barrack find for the unspent inaugural funds?

            1. Dear Late4HotStinkyYoga: News flash – MOST of the money goes to the attorneys. That’s all I got for you today Lady.

      1. “Malicious prosecution” as aggressive offense is but one tactic of the Obama Coup D’etat in America.

        “A sharp point is a peremptory fact, which makes short work of illusions.”

        – Baron de Bazancourt, “Secrets of the Sword,” 1862
        __________________________________________

        What did Obama know and when did he know it?

        All roads lead to Obama.

  11. Are you nuts changing Shakespeare’s “kill” to fire. Is this because you’re a lawyer and fear that once the people realize how lawyers are behind all of the government corruption they will seek to assert their Second Amendment right and kill them all to protect the nation?

    1. Eliot Bernstein – if you fire them, you still have to pay them for previous work done. I do think changing it from kill to fire was in self-preservation.

  12. Turley wrote, “Trump would be insane to appoint someone to fire Mueller or derail the investigation. The Senate is unlikely to approve such a person, and the move could put his entire presidency at risk. If there is not going to be a material change, why add to the optics of obstruction?”

    Here we go again. When one assumes that obstruction of justice is the only serious legal risk facing Trump, one is forced to conclude that “Trump would be insane to . . . derail the investigation.” Were one, however, willing to entertain the possibility that Mueller fully intends to fulfill his mandate to investigate any coordination between the Trump campaign and the Russian election meddling, then one might not be so quick to ascribe insanity to Trump’s clearly signaled threats to take over the investigation, if he has to, and just get in there and run it, himself. After all, I seriously doubt that Trump, himself, would indict his own son and son-in-law for conspiracy to defraud the United States. But Mueller will.

    On a related topic, wouldn’t you like to find out whether or not Trump and Mnuchin are actually enforcing the sanctions against Russia? The Congressional Republicans appear to be profoundly unwilling even to pose that question. I’m guessing that a Democratic Majority in either or both The House and The Senate would have no such qualms about investigating Trump and Mnuchin’s efforts at actual enforcement of the sanctions against Russia.

  13. Since most Democrats and of the left are in a perpetual state of outrage over most anything relating to President Trump, how would the status quo change if he sacked Messrs. Session and McGahn?

    Can CNN become greater than 100% negative in its coverage of the president? Can Maxine Waters devolve into a more primordial level of screaming? Will Antifa’s clothing be a greater shade of black?

    I do not believe they have the ability to expend any more resources or energy to attack the president because they are redlined all the time. But of probably equal importance is that many of these people cannot be reasoned with or convinced to accept a different approach to facts and thus it is futile to try to convince them otherwise, and it is certainly not worth the effort or aggravation in attempting to do so. Consequently, their opinion and needs become less worthy of consideration until they finally others have such contempt for them it because somewhat joyful simply to do the opposite of what they want just to spite them and watch them unravel.

    If others want to waste their lives tethering their souls to politicians in the hope of receiving table scraps for their unfettered loyalty or to alternatively pipe an outlet from the billowing steam explosion of rage compressing their brain to vent against the rest of the world, that is their affair. It’s a waste of what little life we have.

    1. The error here is conflating whatever the hell “Antifa” is with the majority of Americans who disapprove of the day glo bozo. I, for one, don’t know any “Antifa” or know anyone who knows an “Antifa.” Moreover, whatever the hell an “Antifa” wants doesn’t involve me, or most of the other majority of Americans who disapproves of the antics of the day glo bozo. Further, Maxine Waters is merely a Representative from California. So? Rather than regurgitate what is likely an hourly update on Pravda Faux News while constructing your own straw-man argument, a realistic and objective survey of the actions and omissions of the day glo bozo and his minions as they implicate reasonable suspicion, probable cause or further investigative activity might be more productive; however, you won’t get a “go-by” on that analysis from Pravda Faux News.

      this is to “I think the scarecrow needed a brain, too” darren

      1. “whatever the hell an “Antifa” wants doesn’t involve me” Wanting to turn the country fascist, doesn’t concern you? Thanks for showing us only care about you, and your Leftist cronies. Something you just accused Trump of. lol, Morally Bankrupt Hypocrite!

        1. Haha, excellent. So, Mr. “Leftist” expert; what does an “Antifa” want? Further, what specifically have I accused the day glo bozo of which is related in any way to what an “Antifa” desires? Finally, you can use an initial after your name, your parole officer won’t be able to figure it out.

          this is to “ya, he’s an old white guy imbicilic buffoon, but he’s my kind of fascist” “Ron”

          1. Excerpted from the first link above:

            What effectively negative altercasting does is to hold up an image of a socially undesirable person who breaks shared values. This implies that if they do not do as you ask, they will be like this bad image, and the result of breaking social rules would be that nobody else will like them or want to associate with them. Esteem from others is a very important need for many people, making the thought of being ostracized particularly powerful. The result should be that the person retreats from actions that may result in social disapproval.

          2. Excerpted from the second link above:

            What effectively Positive Altercasting does is to hold up an image of a socially desirable person who sustains shared values that include doing as you are suggesting. This implies that if they do as you ask, they will be like this good image, and that the result of following social rules would be that other people would also approve of their actions. Esteem from others is a very important need for many people, making the thought of being admired particularly powerful. The result should be that the person takes actions that may result in social approval.

            1. b> L4Yoga enables David Benson, R. Lien and Marky Mark Mark – one of the nice things in life is that some of us to not bow to peer pressure regardless of what you call it or how you dress it up.

              1. L4D neither advocates nor condones the compliance-gaining strategies described by Kellerman and Cole. L4D salutes all non-conformists, social misfits and whosoever else marches to a different drum. L4D has no expectation whatsoever that anyone else should seek her approval. L4D seeks no one else’s approval. They may have been, at one or more times, certain exceptions such as applying for a job, applying for a loan, or accepting a marriage proposal, for instance, that necessarily presuppose the search for someone else’s approval or necessarily entail either granting or withholding one’s own approval to or fro another. But those days are over and done with a long time ago. And that’s why you’ll never get your OED citations from Dr. Benson, either, you hypocritical compliance-demanding strategist, you.

                1. L4Yoga enables David Benson, R. Lien and Marky Mark Mark – this is a behavioral psychology strategy. Besides, what do I have to lose.

                  BTW, I don’t march to my own drum, I have my own damn orchestra.

        2. Darren,

          President Trump is a depraved and loutish dope, so when you report accurately about him it’s bound to come out bad.

          But that’s not the fault of the messenger.

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        1. Gee Willakers, Mr. Smith. We’re sorry for making you so sad (if that is what you’re getting at). But it might be well worth our effort, anyhow.

        2. Mr. Smith said, “Consequently, their opinion and needs become less worthy of consideration until they finally [realize that if] others have such contempt for them it [is]because [it is] somewhat joyful simply to do the opposite of what they want just to spite them and watch them unravel.”

          Yeah! Now that’s the Spirit of Trump, for sure. It is, indeed, quite the simple pleasure to do the exact opposite of whatever “the authority figurines” demand of us just to spite them and watch them unravel. Darren Smith has Donald Trump down cold. Throw temper tantrum after temper tantrum until the liberal media elitists infantilize themselves 24/7 on national TV. Brilliant! A very stable genius, indeed.

      3. Marky Mark Mark – since they like to wear masks, how do you know you do not know you don’t know any members of Antifa? You could know two or three of them and not know it was them under their masks. The could be meeting next door to you and you wouldn’t know.

        1. I’m guessing that if Mark M. were ever introduced to a masked person, then Mark M. might reasonably suspect that that masked person was a member of Antifa. Thus, when Mark M. says that he doesn’t know any members of Antifa, a reasonable person–as opposed to an extreme skeptic poseur–might surmise that Mark M. has never been introduced to a masked person. But that’s just a guess.

          1. L4Yoga enables David Benson, R. Lien and Marky Mark Mark – so Marky Mark Mark has never met the Lone Ranger, Batman or Black Lightning? What a boring life he leads.

              1. L4Yoga enables David Benson, R. Lien and Marky Mark Mark – who do you think taught Zorro to sword fight?

                  1. L4Yoga enables David Benson, R. Lien and Marky Mark Mark – Shirley you jest. He was dead before Zorro was born.

  14. LONGER-THAN-NORMAL TURLEY POST WARNS OF TROUBLE

    Turley is warning conservatives, “If Trump fires Sessions, all hell breaks lose”.

    Trump imagines he can appoint a hatchet man to replace Sessions. And Trump might try it as a Hail Mary pass to end the Russia Probe.

    Sessions’ replacement would be under enormous scrutiny during the confirmation process. That could deter anyone looking beyond the Trump years. Being remembered as ‘Trump’s Hatchet Man’ could limit a career.

  15. Straight up spaghetti with the red sauce not the white kind. But trouble is it doesn’t like me. So I’ll share my diet secret. 1. Eat Less Exercise More. 2. Stay off of scales they are depressing. Instead buy a belt that will barely let you get your pants on and two or three weeks later marvel at the extrsa two inches. Then if you have to get a smaller belt.

    1. Red Sauce, I know, Sunday Gravy, I’ve got a great receipt, …. Drink more water, anything one can brew booze with don’t eat… bread, rice , corn, potatoes, etc …

      Ph’in Doctors, if they knew what they were talking about Life expectancy would be going up inside of down! LOL:)

  16. Best thing for now GOP Senator from Arizona by appointment then the rest of them. the only iffy thing I see is how are they going to administer an oath of office to Ocasio to the Constitution as an avowed socialist and enemy of our Republic? Not smart enough to run as an Independent like Bernie Sanders. Her situation is cut and dried

    That aside it will all be over in two months and four days.

    As it stands while they might do the impeachment part it is of little consequence and I don’t see the left getting 67 votes on anything.Right now the Republic Party is knocking on 49 to 55.

    But I know when the blue wave will strike our shores. The morning after the election with all the impotent rage they can manage. For it will mean that 2020 is too high a coastline to climb.

    1. ”The first thing we do, let’s kill fire all the lawyers.” And the meddesome priests.

      1. Could not resist to add politicians

        Six great Shakespeare quotes about power and politics

        The King in Henry IV, Part 2 (3.1.31)
        King Richard in Richard II (4.1.200-203)
        King Henry in Henry V (4.1.105)
        Angelo in Measure for Measure (2.1.1-4)
        Brutus in Julius Caesar (2.1.19-20)
        Kent in King Lear (1.1.164-167)

        Six great Shakespeare quotes about power and politics
        https://shakespeareandbeyond.folger.edu/2016/10/31/shakespeare-quotes-power-politics/

  17. Sessions, at the very least, before recusing himself from the DNC/Obama sponsored Russia lie, should have given Trump the option of Session’s resignation. I thought the Executive who appoints all such persons has a resignation form pre-signed by the appointed officer, with blank date line which the Executive fills in. No?

    1. Yes he does. It’s just a matter of giving them their last date and hopefully this time pulling their security clerance while leaving them responsible.

    2. Please post more materials on this ominous group which you’ve identified: this “DNC” entity seems dangerous. It fully appears that through your indefatigable sleuthing, you’ve uncovered a nefarious cabal of ne’er do wells, seemingly hell-bent on misleading god-fearin’ ‘Mericans who only want to burn crosses in peace. The entire blawg waits with bated breath for you to identify further the dastardly deeds of these malfeasants.

      this is to “who needs laws when we gots our own day glo bozo” joey

      1. Marky Mark Mark – do you use a template for your appellate briefs? You stuff all looks the same. Seen one dragon you’ve seen then all. Do you just paste a never cover sheet on the brief and file it?

  18. Yep, Prof Turley has clearly lost his mind & Trump & his supporters clearly can have there way with his American Hating Commie/Nazis.

    Sorry ole friend Turley, sometimes in a war you’re ether with us or against the USA, so may your chains rest lightly on you ankles in your slavery, but go from us in peace.

    1. Hurts to have to identify yourselves publicly doesn’t it. But I’ve seen precious few of the left even attempt what you just did. Gotta give you credit for clearly identifying the American Hating Commie Nazis as the leftists.

      We’ll take our destruction of your International and National Socialism with pride for having lived up to our oaths of office and citizenship and go back to our representative Constitutional Republic knowing at least one of you got it.

      1. Excellent. You’re so cross-wired and f*cked up, I can just see the spittle flying out of your mouth and coating your old-school monitor. Even more fun, you refer to yourself as “we” as if you know real people. Just keep on keepin’ on.

        this is to “should I have used more oomph by adding “Klingon” to “commie/nazis” or not? mikey

      2. Micheal, I remember my long retired friends from the DOJ in early 2000 time frame discussing these same matters & it’s working out just as we invisioned the Commie/Nazi’s vision loses on it’s merit

    2. Prof Turley, look at it like this, ask a couple of your trusted friends that are away from the risk of Potomac river fever like yourself & your friends .

      It’s Late & I lost my focus other then Turley & you other buds fail to realize the great crowds of Americans are now firmly supporting DJ Trump.

      Go against at your own peril!

      Red Wave Buddy, It’s here!

      1. Haha. Awesome. So, how is the latest batch of ‘shine?

        this is to “I’m sorta hard to understand because I don’t have many linear thoughts” okie

        1. LOL, I heard a sick ph’kin joke earlier tonight that you have a licence to practice law, that sheet aint right,.

          If that be the case I pity anyone you represent if they come up against one of my legal team.

          Cause I already knew you look just like the dirty water of a mop bucket.

          I can only imagine your hell of facing constant defeat day after day!

  19. If you can’t lie as well as Trump, if your lies don’t jive with Trump’s, if you don’t give up all for Trump, well; you have to go. Stalin was a lot like that.

    1. You should know Comrade Issack. Above all you should know. but unlike the other guy you still live in your foreigner fairy tail world and no doubt will die as you lived. Stupid and Socialist.

    1. Dr. Benson, you seem to be suggesting that lawyers vary by the shape of the hole through which their noodles were extruded.

      Am I guessing incorrectly on that count?

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