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Michael Cohen Disbarred In New York

As someone who has called for the disbarment of Michael Cohen for well over a year, the belated decision by the New York bar this week to disbar the disgraced lawyer is welcomed news. There are few ex-lawyers that you can say this about, but the removal of Cohen from the bar has materially improved the value of everyone’s license across the country.

The panel of Justices Dianne Renwick, Sallie Manzanet-Daniels, Angela Mazzarelli, Jeffery Oing, and Peter Moulton found that disbarment was warranted by Cohen’s guilty pleas to tax evasion, campaign finance law violations, and lying to Congress.

Notably, the Attorney Grievance Committee filed for disbarment back on October 3, 2018.

As I have said before, repeatedly, Cohen has spent his career as a legal thug whose only appeal was his willingness to do things that most lawyers would not do.

As a longtime critic of Cohen, I argued for Trump to sever ties with Cohen at the start of the Administration. Trump instead pushed Cohen into greater prominence and publicly embraced him as his lawyer. In the end, the only concern of Cohen is Cohen himself. When Trump promised access to wealth and power, he was his loyal hatchet man, promising to take a bullet for him. When the special counsel discovered his myriad criminal acts, Cohen became a Mueller man.

Cohen distinguished himself as a thug who threatened journalists, university students, and anyone else deemed a threat to Trump. In 2015, when Harvard Lampoon staffers played a prank on Trump by having him sit in the stolen “president’s chair” from the Harvard Crimson for a photo and an endorsement, Cohen threatened the students with ruin. He is quoted as saying: “I’m gonna come up to Harvard. You’re all gonna get expelled. If this photo gets out, you’ll be outta that school faster than you know it. I can be up there tomorrow.”

Then there was his threat against former Daily Beast reporter Tim Mak, who simply wrote about a biography by former Newsweek reporter Harry Hurt. The biography, titled “Lost Tycoon,” includes allegations in a sworn deposition from Trump’s first wife, Ivana, that Trump raped her. In a phone call recorded by Mak, Cohen told the reporter: “You’re talking about Donald Trump, you’re talking about the frontrunner for the GOP, a presidential candidate, as well as private individual, who never raped anybody and, of course, understand that by the very definition you can’t rape your spouse,” the latter, of course, being legally incorrect. Cohen declared: “Mark my words for it, I will make sure that you and I meet one day over in the courthouse and I will take you for every penny you still don’t have, and I will come after your Daily Beast and everybody else.”

None of these acts seemed to prompt bar action in New York though the action in October was not widely known. It was only after his criminal plea that he was finally and thankfully disbarred.

I will listen to the testimony of Cohen today, though with a considerable level of skepticism. It is not a matter of credibility. Cohen has none. The issue is whether Cohen can support allegations with hard documents and evidence. Otherwise, the testimony will be a useless as Cohen’s word. The one improvement however is that Cohen will not continue to disgrace and degrade the legal profession. He has that distinction with Trump’s other lawyer, Roy Cohn who was also disbarred.

In the end, the White House attacks on Cohen come at a cost. As bad as Cohen was, he was the President’s choice as counsel both before and after the election. Moreover, even a serial liar and crook can do damage in a hearing when he was once your serial liar and crook.

301 thoughts on “Michael Cohen Disbarred In New York”

  1. It’s tiresome listening to the mixed up logic of Natacha, Peter Shill and all the goofy others that can’t seem to understand what evidence and proof are so I am going to copy two of the most important questions of the day.

    “How can we corroborate what you’re saying?” Democratic Rep. Deborah Wasserman Schultz of Florida asked Cohen

    Cohen: ““I don’t know, but I suspect…” (suspecting means nothing)

    ““Have you ever been to Prague?” South Carolina Rep. Ralph Norman, a Republican, asked Cohen during a House Oversight and Reform Committee hearing.

    Cohen: “I’ve never been to Prague,” said Cohen, adding: “I’ve never been to the Czech Republic.” (this ends any claims of truth in the Steele dossier)

    1. I.Bob,…
      Based on Cohen’s accounts since he came out of the darkness and now walks in the light of righteousness…
      It was the Svengoli-like spell Trump cast over him.
      I remember Flip Wilson’s Geraldine and “The Devil made me do it” line.
      Just change the characters a bit from the Flip Wilson line and you see why Cohen fell from grace when under Trump’s control.
      I’d be interested in a review of Cohen’s career and life BEFORE his association with Trump, to see if he’d been corrupted by someone else who had this kind of powerful control over him.
      It’d be interesting to review details of his law practice pre-Trump.

    1. FF Sierra, Farce has its place in theater.
      And in another medium, there are long-running soap operas.
      Then then there are the puppet shows.
      This package has all of those great elements, and might be renewed season after season.

  5. BASED ON COHEN’S TESTIMONY..

    TRUMP COMMITTED AT LEAST 5 FELONIES

    Cohen’s testimony includes accusations — relating to Trump’s racism, his lack of concern for the public weal and his attempts to conceal his academic record — that, if true, are simply embarrassing. But, as noted by Max Bergmann of the Moscow Project at the Center for American Progress, the president’s former lawyer also implicated him in at least four felonies:

    1. Conspiracy to defraud the United States. Cohen testified that he was present in July 2016 when Trump took a call on the speakerphone from Roger Stone, who said “that he had just gotten off the phone with Julian Assange and that Mr. Assange told Stone that, within a couple of days, there would be a massive dump of emails that would damage Hillary Clinton’s campaign.” According to Cohen, Trump replied, “Wouldn’t that be great.” (Stone has denied that account, in possible violation of a judge’s gag order.) Trump cannot claim that he did not know where the leaked emails ultimately came from: It had been public knowledge since mid-June 2016 that Russian hackers had penetrated the Democratic National Committee.

    2. Lying to the FBI and the Justice Department. According to CNN, Trump, in his written testimony to special counsel Robert S. Mueller III, claimed “that Roger Stone did not tell him about WikiLeaks, nor was he told about the 2016 Trump Tower meeting between his son, campaign officials and a Russian lawyer promising dirt on Hillary Clinton.” Cohen contradicted those assertions.

    3. Suborning perjury. Cohen testified that Trump encouraged him to lie to Congress about his attempts in 2016 to build a Trump Tower in Moscow and that his personal lawyers reviewed the mendacious testimony.

    4. Violating campaign finance laws. Cohen testified that Trump told him to pay off a porn star and reimbursed him for doing so. Cohen even produced a check Trump signed while he was president and another one that was signed by Donald Trump Jr., implicating the president’s son in this felony, as well.

    To these four offenses, one may add: 5. Bank, wire and tax fraud. Cohen testified that Trump inflated his assets to win bank loans and deflated them to reduce his taxes — precisely the kind of scheme for which Trump’s former campaign manager, Paul Manafort, is now facing lengthy prison time. And Cohen added that he knew of other offenses that federal prosecutors are still investigating.

    Edited from: ‘Here Are Five Felonies Trump Committed – If Cohen Is Telling The Truth”

    Today’s WASHINGTON POST

    1. DEMOCRATS USE CONVICTED LIAR AS EVIDENCE

      Michael Cohen will be going to jail. Why? He lied and then he lied again and again so he seems a perfect person for Democrats to use against a President when they could not find anything on the President after a 2 year extensive investigation by professionals out to get the President.

      The claims that Cohen made were false, more of the same, had no bearing on criminality etc. Cohen didn’t even submit his testimony 24 hours in advance per the rules of the committee. That is simply more of the breaking of the rules mentality of Cohen’s orchestrated by Clinton’s attorney ‘sweep the sh-t under the rug and bury the corpses’ Lanny Davis.

        1. FEINSTEIN EMPLOYED A CHINESE SPY.
          DEBBIE WASSERMAN SHULTZ EMPLOYED AWAN WHO STOLE SECRETS FROM THE COMPUTERS USED BY HER AND MANY DEMOCRATS,

          Trump was a private citizen and a lot of lawyers are crooks. How many lawyers were in his employ over a period of over 50 years and one of them, probably quite minor, turned out to be a crook who was self-serving and never really deeply involved in the more sophiticated mechanics of the Trump organization. He was most likely a highly educated gopher.

          The most significant thing Cohen may have been involved with is paying for a story that you might call hush money. People pay for stories all the time. Your Democratic friends on intelligence committees etc employed crooks and spies. You don’t talk about them do you?

          1. “FEINSTEIN EMPLOYED A CHINESE SPY.
            DEBBIE WASSERMAN SHULTZ EMPLOYED AWAN ”

            Allan, there you go again, pissing off Peter Shill by shedding light on the darkness of his political tribe.

            Did Cohen state whether Obama had a US birth certificate?
            Did he mention how many times Bill Clinton lied in the span of 30 seconds while talking about womyn last year….vs 20 years ago?
            Did Cohen disclose where Hillary’s “Russia reset” button went after it proved to be nothing worthy of anything but memes?

            One more: How many bullets did Hillary take when her plane landed in ? Surely Bill & Hilary’s 50+ years of lying from Arkansas to DC to NY got some mention by WaPutz?

            1. Estovir, Trump has probably been the most transparent President. Every time he tweets we know what is on his mind. We even know when he changes his mind.

              Democrats are habitual liars so telling the truth is like soap to a kid who likes to remain dirty.

            2. Estovir,..,
              You need to be called out on you embellishment; Hillary’s plane was NOT hit.
              The snipers were zeroing in on Hillary herself, who dodged the bullets on the tarmac until she reached safety.😏
              Also, her motocade dodged most of the tomatoes and shoes thrown at her when she did her heroic victory lap in Egypt after insisting that “Mubarek must go”.
              It’s not known if she heard the shouts of “Monica! Monica!” from the grateful beneficiaries of the Arab Spring intiative.

        2. President employed a liar for 10 years?
          Wow, that’s serious.
          BTW how long have you worked for your boss?

          1. You’re so dumb,

            you probably think this post is about you, ’bout you, ’bout you.

            LOL!

    2. These are today’s talking points, brought to you in part by Soros stooges.
      In the course of this 2 1/2 year investigation, the alleged felonies/ impeachable offenses have included emoluments violations, violation of the Logan Act, violations of FEC regulations, etc.
      Looking at the situation with the benefit of the Soros-soaked spin/ speculation, we’ll either see an impeachment or we won’t.
      Trump will either face criminal charges ( even if he can’t be indicted under DOJ policy while in office) or he won’t be charged.
      We have 2 1/2 on nonstop bull**** from seemingly endless number of pundits and millions of overnight Constitutional Law experts who got their law degrees out of a cereal box.
      This thing either gets wrapped up, one way or the other, or we can continue f***ing around for an additional weeks?/ months?/ years? of the foolish, overblown soap opera.
      I’m not “arguing the case” one way or the other; I’m just joining the chorus of “it’s time ( or past time) to **** or get off the lot.
      We can have all the Soros Spin or Hannity Spin or whatever, and as much fun as all of that is😏😒 for pundits and hobbyists, it doesn’t mean squat.
      Maybe at some point the OSC and related investigators will recover their voice after being dumbstruck and remaining concealed behind the curtain as they do an marathon puppet show.
      I know…gotta protect the investigation, Mueller was a Marine, etc.

      1. For anyone who is interested, “The Center for American Progress” is one of many Soros-funded mouthpieces.
        Not sure if HHHNN is supported financially by Soros money……the chart of his various mouthpiece/ advocacy groups is very large and complex, where one organization with one name is funded by another entity with another name, etc. etc.

          1. Allan,
            Hollywood Hill Headline News Network…..I guess I haven’t used the abbreviations enough to expect it to be known what they stand for.
            Also, it may be HHHHNN if I add “Hysterical” to the front of the other words, so while it’s HHHNN for now, it could be HHHHNN when it’s finalized.😊😎

            1. Tom, it’s cute so you should occasionally repeat the full name so everyone can get to enjoy it. Putting up with Peter is a grind so a little humor helps.

        2. Tom, can Trump supporters ever discuss Donald Trump without the ‘what abouts’?

          Michael Cohen alluded to this today by noting that not one Republican on that committee wanted to discuss Donald Trump. And we see that every day here on Jonathan Turley’s blog. Anyone criticizing Donald Trump is immediately dismissed as a ‘liar’ and, or, an employee of David Brock or George Soros.

          Why is it that Trump can never be discussed as a stand-alone subject? Does he carry that much baggage?

          1. They are more than happy to go down with the ship. Then blame everybody but themselves.

            1. “They are more than happy to go done with the ship”.
              After over 2 1/2 years , “they” wonder when the ship will reach it’s destination.
              Failing any clear answer on that from the Captain and his crew, they’d at least like to know what direction the ship is heading in.

          2. DEMOCRAT COMMITTEE BUYS COHEN’S LIES.

            So does the NYTimes but nothing was said that hasn’t already been said. The issue of the Democrats is to embarrass Trump while he is negotiating for a nuclear disarmament of missiles in N. Korea and all the Democrats worry about is getting Trump because Trump legally won the election and is now President.

            DEMOCRATS CAUGHT WITH HAVING HEADS ON BACKWARD.

              1. Boy, you guys are very repetitive and have to copy what you say over and over again. OK, I’ll copy my former answer.

                It’s OK Fishwings. Blacks are doing better. You can deny it but that doesn’t mean a thing. I’m concerned for Americans. Too many anti-American Democrats so while you guys are playing around with a serial liar Trump is doing the heavy lifting and trying to get N. Korea to give up its nuclear ambitions.

                  1. Mespo,..
                    Fishwings is long-winded compared to the YNOT posts.
                    I don’t know why YNOT says “this is too easy” when it’s obvious that a lot of work and thought😉☺😂goes into those telegrams delivered by YNOT.

          3. I just saw clips of Cohen’s testimony and have read summaries….I will eventually read a transcript or view the video of today’s testimony.
            Can anyone with TDS get by without using the lame “what aboutism” dodge?
            If I posted something from a source funded by the Koch Brothers, I can just about guarantee you there’d be objections raised by some here.
            You can’t expect to get a free ride parroting a Soros or David Brock narrative, so I thought I’d point out some things about your source for The Five Felonies piece you quoted.
            Maybe if there’s a Hannity or Rush Limbaugh summary of today’s testimony, I’ll parrot those summaries here for to give “information and analysis” from an equally unbiased and objective source😊😏 as the ones used by HHHNN.

            1. https://needtoknow.news/2017/04/list-206-organizations-funded-george-soros-operating-us/
              I would estimate that the Koch Bros. name/influence has been mentioned about 10 times as often and the Soros name/ influence.
              It is evidently OK to question the objectivity of anything published that us connected with the Koch’s sponsorship/ funding……and that’s legitimate, in my view….
              BUT, IT IS “WHATABOUTISM” TO QUESTION THE OBJECTIVITY OF A SOURCE WHEN IT’S PRESENTED HERE BY A SOROS STOOGE.

              1. Tom, you’re starting to believe your own lies. I should flattered that George Soros would choose me as a spokesperson. Now if only I could get paid!

                1. But I guess to answer my own question, “No, Donald Trump cannot be discussed as a stand-alone subject by any Trump supporter”.

                  As a stand-alone subject Donald Trump is too problematic.

                  1. Take away the OSC, Manafort, Papadoufellous, Gen. Flynn, Gates, Carter Page, Comey, Stzrok, et,al, and we’ll discuss Trump as “a stand-alone subject”.
                    Fair enough?

                2. Rumor has it that you are already being paid.
                  If that rumor is false, then I apologize for starting it.

                3. The Democrats hire lots of Shills to protest which is essentially what you are doing and to hold signs at the polls pushing Democratic Party candidates and positions. Last time I voted I spoke to a few and found they were earning a few cents more than minimum wage. They didn’t have the slightest idea of what the signs meant or who the candidates. All they knew were they were going to be bussed in, paid a few dollars and get a free lunch. Yes Peter. I believe you. You are one of these spokesmen.

          4. Peter:

            Ever want some land in Florida … or maybe a bridge. If you believe a guy who admittedly hates the object of his scorn; has lied to the IRS and Congress; been convicted of felonious perjury and has an axe to grind before going off to jail, I’ve got some oceanfront property in Orlando for you with a wonderful bridge into Manhattan from your front stoop there.

            Let me know!!

            1. Surprise! Or not. You should know that people go to prison every day in this country based on convictions obtained through the testimony of their fellow conspirators–who are for the most part also untrustworthy, crimininogenic felons. The feds luvs them some conspiracy cases–which always have rats–and know very well how to garner convictions with such evidence.

              to mespo

              1. Mark M:
                They only go to prison if the co-conspirator’s testimony is corroborated by other reliable evidence. Do you practice criminal law? I don’t and know that.

    3. haha, lots of reasonable doubt there, even for people who find the accused unsympathetic

    4. I gather Diane is now emailing her posts to Peter Shill, who then posts them under this own handle with custom ALL CAPS.

  6. Turley says: “In the end, the White House attacks on Cohen come at a cost. As bad as Cohen was, he was the President’s choice as counsel both before and after the election. Moreover, even a serial liar and crook can do damage in a hearing when he was once your serial liar and crook.” Basically Cohen was a serial liar and crook who represented an even bigger serial liar and crook. We’ve all seen the proof that Trump is a chronic, habitual liar, and a racist and misogynist. Have you been watching the A&E Biography series on the Trumps? If not, you should tune in, if you can stomach looking at the fat loser’s face that much. It will help you understand the underpinnings of the pathology known as Trump. You will learn all about little Donnie whose Daddy financed his projects, who tried (unsuccessfully) to sue the Justice Department when he got caught engaging in racism in renting apartment, and who has always been an arrogant, narcissist attention hog.

    1. Hillary was taped dipping her test-i-clees in salsa when she lost the 2016 election.
      Eating Mexican salsa has never been hairier

      💩

      Maryville man faces felony charge for dipping testicles in salsa before delivery
      https://www.knoxnews.com/story/news/crime/2019/02/26/maryville-howard-matthew-webb-food-tampering-dinner-delivered/2993613002/

      Howard Matthew Webb, 31, is accused of placing his testicles in a salsa container that was then delivered to a low-tipping customer last month. Maryville police arrested Webb on Friday on a charge of “adulteration of food, liquids or pharmaceuticals,” a Class C felony.

      The woman who received the salsa had ordered food Jan. 12 from a local Mexican restaurant through Dinner Delivered, an online food delivery service. Webb was a passenger in a vehicle driven by an independent contractor who worked for Dinner Delivered, general manager Aliyah Wilson told the Daily Times

      After the pair picked up the food from the restaurant, they made a video, according to an arrest warrant.

      “Webb produced a video showing Webb placing his testicles in a salsa container and (the driver) is heard laughing and stating, ‘This is what you get when you give an 89-cent tip for an almost 30-minute drive,” Maryville Police Department investigator Rod Fernandez wrote in the warrant.

      1. NK, what does this have to do with Michael Cohen or Donald Trump..????

        It sounds completely unrelated to anything in the news today.

        1. “NK, what does this have to do with Michael Cohen or Donald Trump..???? It sounds completely unrelated to anything in the news today.”

          What does Michael Cohen have to do with the truth?

          1. But Allan…..Cohen has documents. He has Stormy Daniels backing up the hush-money payments. Then, there’s the little Donnie e-mail confirming the meeting. You’d have to be pretty deep into Trumpism to dismiss all of this evidence.

            1. Natacha:

              Documents that show what? Which documents weren’t already released to the public? Which documents weren’t released to Mueller?

              Stormy Daniels proves what? At worst it proves Trump liked sex outside of marriage. It doesn’t prove he paid her off and if he did it wasn’t illegal.

              “Donnie e-mail confirming the meeting” Which meeting what does the e-mail say?

              None of this means squat and I don’t think any of this was unknown before. This is a show provided by the Democrats that cannot accept the Presidential loss. They are not doing their jobs of protecting Americans or even balancing a budget.

              If the e-mail has to do with gathering of information on one’s opponent that isn’t illegal.

              1. Inter alia, Cohen produced: 1. copy of letters sent to Trump’s various schools and to the College Board, threatening them with civil and even criminal sanctions if they disclosed his grades. Trump claimed he was at “the top of his class”. He was not the valedictorian, salutatorian, nor even on the Dean’s List, and he didn’t receive any academic honors, according to the program from his graduation ceremony. Trump always claimed that Obama was a poor student, and that he is a “very stable genius”. Just more proof of his chronic, habitual lying and narcissism, seasoned with a taste of racism. 2. copies of checks to reimburse him for hush-money payments to adult film actress Stormy Daniels. Trump lied about this when questioned by a reporter. This payment constitutes a campaign contribution, since the purpose was to assist him in getting elected. Failure to report this is a campaign finance violation. The reason was to reel in gullible Evangelicals, which is the same reason for adding hypocrite Mikey Pence to the ticket. Trump isn’t loyal to anyone, including his third trophy wife.

                You can dismiss these matters all you want, and as Trump has said that for you believers he could murder someone in cold blood in broad daylight, but you’d still support him. Nevertheless, they paint a picture of someone not fit to occupy the Oval Office, and they help establish Cohen’s credibility.

                2. Natacha, I can’t read through all the junk. Just post the facts and or documents proving Trump did something illegal.

                  We need to differentiate what was created by the liar Cohen and what was a Trump product. Then we need to show the document and prove illegality. Assuming everything to be true in your first several statements, none of that is illegal. Obama prevented his school records from being opened as well.

                  If your first several statements are nonesense I don’t read any further.

                3. Trump still regrets relying on the legal advice of what he thought was a competent and ethical attorney, Anonymous.
                  And Trump is so disillusioned now that he’s now even leery of any Amorasa staff member, lawyer, or top DOJ official wearing a wire to take him down.
                  Talk about paranoid; “as if” any of those things could actually happen!

            2. There were is a hint of what will be in the counter-attack against Cohen’s allegations.
              I’m not talking about the tweets and other white noise going back and forth, but something more in line with an official/ legal response to the allegations.
              Trump was relying on the legal advice of Cohen when he handled the Stormy Daniels and the other woman’s payments.
              This “my lawyer was advising me” defense can be used in other areas as well, anywhere where there is Trump-Cohen activity alleged to be criminal.
              I’ve heard a couple of very brief “hints” of this…..one from Trump, and I think they other from Guiliani.
              I think they’ll try to turn this around on Cohen; so we have Cohen’s version, that he was (mis)-guided by Trump, the evil master.
              And one response will be “I relied on Michael Cohen and I trusted him” in these dealings.
              If it comes down to “he said/he said, it’s a wash.
              I don’t view any of the actors in this farce as being very credible, and if it plays out where it’s one guy”s word against another, I don’t think it’s “actionable” as far as impeachment or indictments.
              The major question is what Cohen may have captured on tape as he secretly recorded his client(s).
              One part of the testimony I did hear was Cohen’s description of how Trump gave orders; Cohen said “he speaks in code”, that knowing Trump, he knew what Trump meant for him to do without Trump specifying it.
              If that’s what Cohen has on tape, it won’t have the impact the House and/ or prosecutors need to move forward.
              If there’s something more direct and more specific,it’s a different ballgame,

    2. A&E hit piece is your evidence and proof?
      No wonder the first thing Stalin did when he took power was start killing all his low level supporters. He needed ones in touch with reality if he was going to conduct real world strategies that would hold on to that power.

      1. Why do you call this series a “hit piece”? Have you seen it? Everything is backed up with documents, statements from people who knew the Trumps, photographs, etc… Trump got caught red-handed engaging in racial discrimination in renting apartments. First, a black man went in to the rental office to inquire about a unit listed for rent. He was told the unit had already been rented. Immediately thereafter, a white woman went in to the rental office and was welcomed and given an application. She worked for the government. Trump arrogantly announced he would sue the Justice Department over this, which he did. He lost badly, and had to pay fines, etc.. To this day, he continues to insist that he “won”. Then, there’s his association with Roy Cohn, who taught him that the most important thing is attention, to spin your brand, and that lying doesn’t matter, so long as you get attention. No matter what the facts, continue to spin yourself as successful.

        Then, there was video of Trump putting down a NYC council member who opposed his demand for a tax abatement. The woman quoted to him the requirement that a property be either vacant or under-utilized to qualify. He wanted to raze the Bonwit Teller store, which was still open for business, so he claimed that he could put the land to better use by building a taller structure. He was openly insulting and condescending to her when she pointed out that this is not what “under-utilized” means. When he got his way, just out of pure spite and over the objections of the MMOA, he destroyed art deco façade pieces that the museum wanted and had agreed to remove so they could preserve and display them. A representative of the MMOA spoke about this. When she heard he had a wrecking ball there threatening to smash the pieces, she got into a cab and tried to get there to stop him. She was 8 months pregnant, and when her cab got stuck in traffic, she got out and ran on foot, but was too late. Trump is an arrogant, racist, misogynist turd, pure and simple. Watch the series.

        1. Natacha, I don’t want to involve myself in your fiction so I stopped reading after a few sentences, but there are documents on the net that demonstrate what you believe to be so isn’t true.

          1. What documents? Cite them or shut up. Do you really think the A & E network would make up all of this, fake videos and interviews, and show falsified documents?

            1. yes the bar for defamation of public figures is very low here. it happens all the time

              also news will evade the truth thusly:

              MICHAEL COHEN, Trump’s former lawyer, SAYS THE FOLLOWING:

              [HERE INSERT BALDFACED LIES]

              See just so long as it’s true that Cohen said such and such, the reporter is telling truth, even if the lies are embedded in the repeated statement.
              thereby getting around any rtruth issues

              that’s how it works, kids! fake news 24/7

            2. I am not saying anything of the kind. I am saying that you need to show the documents in order to intelligently discuss them. You make assumptions about what the documents may or may not imply. The solution to that problem is the actual documents.

              To date you have made statement after statement that didn’t pan out or were meaningless to begin with. Find a document proving illegality.

            3. “Do you really think the A & E network would make up all of this, fake videos and interviews, and show falsified documents?”

              Define the word “did”

              Did Hillary fight for women in Arkansas abused by male politicians?
              Scratch that.

              Is Bill a virgin?

              honest question: what do you get paid to troll? what’s the total compensation package?

        2. Carefully crated hit piece using mores from another time viewed through todays contrived liberal lunatic filter.
          BTW How many democrats in government positions have ancestors who owned slaves?
          Shouldn’t they all be fired immediately, stripped of their Rights and put in jail?
          Check the ancestry of obamas father. Does his family still own slaves? It’s still a very common practice to own slaves in Africa today. Why aren’t liberals taking up this cause? Oh right, Dems are still bitter about the last time America had to deslave them.
          They are not quite ready for that again…yet.

  7. The disbarment may answer why he is offering far more information about his lawyer-client relationship, than the Congressional inquisitors even thought to ask.

    1. Hillary bought it from the Russians to make it into a training camp for her imbecile mongrels in prepation for 2020: one way ticket with all the salmon and ice water you wish….because she is fighting for you

  9. “I did not have sexual relations with that woman.”

    – Bill “Slick Willy” Clinton
    ___________________

    “On this morning, 40 years ago, my life changed forever, On 4-25-78, I was brutally raped by Ark. AG Bill Clinton. I have spent the majority of my life trying to forget…and watching the Evil thrive.”

    – Juanita Broaddrick
    ________________

    Hillary Clinton destroys 30,000 e-mails as destruction of evidence.

    And so on and son and son on.

    1. Nobody cares about Bill Clinton or Hillary’s e-mails. Pivoting to them every time there is Trump bad news is old hat. We’ve moved on, and so should you.

      1. Trump got another Judge placed on the Federal Court.
        We have moved on toward MAGA

        Get over her losing sourpuss and move on

  10. I’m looking forward to the 2 hour PBS “Frontline” report about all of this in a couple of years after all the dust settles! Also, the made for TV movie….

    1. Jeffrey S.,
      – Some of the PBS Frontline documentaries are very good.
      I noticed some bias in the way things are presented in a few cases, but overall the ones I’ve seen have been pretty good.
      My favorite is probably “The Warning”, focusing on the role of the unregulated derivative market on the 2008 meltdown.

  11. How refreshing that GOP members of the committee are newly dedicated to truth. No doubt they will review the fully documented thousands of lies their leader has issued and continues with even today.

    1. Since you are such a champion of truth Anon, why don’t you help the Republicans out?
      Why don’t you state your lie case here?
      List all of the lies you allege Trump has told, all of the evidence and facts that prove they are lies and put in the all the mitigating circumstances that surround those things so they can be viewed in context.
      Here, I’ll start you off with one of the more popular MSNBC talking points alleged lies,
      Trumps Wall
      When Trump promised to build a wall to help protect American Citizens from all the murder and carnage from the Drug Cartels, Democrat foot soldiers and vote breeding slaves destined for Ye Ol’ Democrat Plantation being imported duty free by the Democrats, he probably had no idea the Democrats were so demonically possesed by the lust for absolute power they would be willing to destroy the Constititional Foundation of the United States, bring this Country to the verge of Civil War that will cost hundreds of thousands of lives, revive a New Fourth Reich in this Country, eradicate the middle class by bankrupting them into impossible to escape from poverty by forced massive taxes to pay for their Cloward and Pivening of the US economy by implementing and expanding psychotic level social programs to bribe the idiotic miseducated parasites who are just jonesing to sign up for a job free life of luxury with free stuff and willing to kill to keep that stuff, just to stop him.
      Yes, there’s no wall yet, but since things are far from over you can’t really call this a lie until either the wall is completely up or American Citizens are completely down.

      1. Haha. Excellent; and, congratulations. You win the prize. Exhibit A for the wackjob tomfoolery the gullible rubes, dupes, klan wannabees, pocket-traitors and grifters on the make will engage in because they’re scared of “those people” and think the day glo bozo will keep “those people” down. So sorry for your loss, and your condition.

        this is to “I see you’ve now figured out what that ticking sound is, huh?” dawnie

  14. Trump will resign and leave office on March 4th. Part of the reason is Cohen. Trump’s wife is pushing him to leave the White House and have some quieter years at Mar A Lago.

  15. its amusing to see some pile on Trump for hiring Cohen or on Trump due to what Cohen alleges. Cohen has gone from being a sleazy lawyer to an oracle for the Left. Sophia!

    This is a good place for attorney jokes

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    http://www.iciclesoftware.com/LawJokes/IcicleLawJokes.html

    “During the mid-1980s dairy farmers decided there was too much cheap milk at the supermarket. So the government bought and slaughtered 1.6 million cows. How come the government never does anything like this with lawyers?”
    – P.J. O’Rourke

    Q: What do you call a smiling, courteous person at a bar association convention?
    A: The caterer.

    Q: How does an attorney sleep?
    A: First he lies on one side, then he lies on the other.

    Q: How many lawyer jokes are there?
    A: Only three. The rest are true stories.

    Q: What do dinosaurs and decent lawyers have in common?
    A: They’re both extinct.

    Q: What do you call 25 attorneys buried up to their chins in cement?
    A: Not enough cement.

    Q: What do you call 25 skydiving lawyers?
    A: Skeet.

    1. “90% of lawyers give the other 10% a bad name”.
      I didn’t see that one in your list, Estovir, so I thought I’d throw it in.
      And as I mentioned once before, I’ve actually had good luck with the lawyers that I’ve known, worked with, or hired.
      There were 2 or 3 exceptions to that, but in those cases it was their competence more than ethical shortcomings that made me decide to “look elsewhere” for a lawyer.

  16. Cohen lied before Congress as part of his job working for Trump. Republicans calling him a liar only further indicts their leader, who is unfortunately our President and who has publicly denounced “rats” in Tony Soprano style. His “Christopher” Gaetz delivered the most recent message yesterday – “don’t stop lying for Trump or clam-up. It’d be a shame if something happened to that pretty wife of yours.”.

    Also, in contrast to our President’s daily lie, Cohen cannot lower his sentence based on his testimony today. He can however face new charges if he lies again before Congress.

    1. I’m not sure of the details of Cohen’s plea deal and sentencing memos…..but my understanding is that Cohen’s cooperation with the U.S. Attorney SDNY was limited, and that Cohen was not forthcoming on matters outside of those charges he already pled guilty to.
      In other words, it sounds like the SDNY could choose to bring additional charges against Cohen on additional offenses outside the scope of the offenses that he’s already been sentenced for.
      Those are unspecified areas mentioned by SDNY prosecutors during the sentencing process, and because of their belief that Cohen had not entirely “come clean” in all areas, they were the ones pressing for a harsher sentence.
      Mueller appeared to be satisfied with the cooperation that he got from Cohen in the areas he was concerned with, and in contrast to the SDNY prosecutors he would have been satified with a lighter sentence.
      Even if the New York prosecutors “can make” a case/ additional cases against Cohen, that does not necessarily mean that they will
      bring additional charges.
      While Cohen may not serve the entire three years, it’s also possible that he could be looking at more time on other offenses if the SDNY prosecutors had a case and went forward with it.
      If anyway has a different or clearer picture of where Cohen stands, I’d be interested in hearing it.
      I don’t have a comprehensive knowledge of the details of his plea deal and sentencing conditions, so what I presented was just based on my understanding of where Cohen is at, legally.

  17. What kind of gross, self-serving monster would hire Cohen at all and then crazily
    keep him on as a personal attorney for years and years?? That’s the person no one should trust.

    It’s like complaining about pay-for-play politics and then electing the Pay portion into office, because that person “isn’t a politician”, even though in reality such a Pay Person swampily reinforced the very swamp that voters today want drained.

    Those who employ minions are worse than the minions themselves. Fortunately we would never elect such a Swamp-Thing to high office, especially one that’s so inauthentic that even his outward appearance reflects it, from fake hair to a fake tan to fake reports of good health, or fake bone-spurs and fake universities, or spreading fake news about the former president and then ballsily complaining about his own coverage.

    Cohen is a liar who represented clients far, far worse than himself.

    1. well, being tight with Cohen certainly reflects poorly on Trump, no matter how it’s viewed.
      Of course Cohen is just telling different lies than the day before, that’s how he operates apparently.

      Sucks to be his lawyer I guess! Says he’s not paying him and neither are the Democrats? Oh, that was a big fib, and you can be sure the Democrats will be paying him.

    2. “What kind of gross, self-serving monster..”

      Would you please Hillary is contemplating a THIRD run ? Talk about beastly…venomous…Draconian even. The Clintons are seething about Trump winning 2 years later

      And Lo!!! Lanny Davis, a formidable gangsta mob monster orchestrated the Congressional appearance, a fact the NYTimes and WaPutz failed to mention in their quest for Amerikuh drenched in Debauchery

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      https://townhall.com/tipsheet/iansnively/2019/02/27/jim-jordan-slams-cohen-during-committee-hearing-n2542321

      Jim Jordan Slams Cohen During Committee Hearing, References Twitter Account Portraying Cohen As a ‘Sex Symbol’

      Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) slammed Michael Cohen, former attorney to President Donald Trump, for testifying before Congress about the president’s political career and “criminal activity.”

      Jordan, a member of the House Oversight Committee, blamed Cohen’s legal consultant, Lanny Davis, for organizing the whole committee.

      “Certainly it’s the first time a convicted purger has been brought back to be a star witness in a hearing,” Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) slams Cummings for Cohen hearing. “And there is the reason this is the a first, because no other committee would do it.” https://t.co/4McXejykRV pic.twitter.com/VhHLuoWsEi

      — CBS News (@CBSNews) February 27, 2019

      “This is the Michael Cohen hearing presented by Lanny Davis,” Jordan said. “That’s right. Lanny Davis choreographed the whole darn thing. The Clintons’ best friend, loyalist, operative. Lanny Davis put this all together. You know how we know? He told our staff. He told the committee staff. He said the hearing was his idea. He selected this committee, he had to talk Michael Cohen into coming, and most importantly, he had to persuade the chairman to actually have it. He told us it took him two months to get that job done. But here we are.”

      Davis was sitting near Cohen during the testimony.

      Everything you need to know about Cohen’s testimony is sitting behind him: Lanny Davis. This is about revenge for Clinton’s 2016 loss in 2020. pic.twitter.com/i84Ks8Pttt

      — Katie Pavlich (@KatiePavlich) February 27, 2019

      Jordan also shamed Chairman Elijah Cummings for allowing Cohen to present himself before the committee.

      “This might be the first time someone convicted of lying to Congress has appeared again to quickly in front of Congress,” Jordan said.

      Townhall reported yesterday that Cohen was disbarred in New York by the Attorney Grievance Committee for the First Appellate Division. Last year, Cohen pleaded guilty for lying before Congress for “making false statements, tax evasion of and campaign finance violation.” He testified falsely about the Trump Organization’s real estate project in Moscow, Russia.

      “And there’s a reason this is a first,” Jordan continued. “Because no other committee would do it.”

      Jordan later questioned Cohen’s intentions behind his illegal activity and whether or not they were done out of loyalty to Trump. This includes filing false tax returns from 2012 and 2016 and failing to pay $1.4 million in taxes at the time.

      He also questioned his involvement in the creation of a fake twitter account called “Women for Cohen.”

      Jordan pressing Cohen about a fake twitter account “Women for Cohen” pic.twitter.com/bCEYWIerF0

      — Washington Examiner (@dcexaminer) February 27, 2019

      “In a world of lies, deception and fraud, we appreciate this honest guy @MichaelCohen #tgif #handsome #sexy,” Jorden read from the account. Cohen chuckled in reaction to him reading the tweet.

      “Was that done to protect the president,” Jordan asked.

      “Mr. Jordan, I actually didn’t set that up. It was done by a young lady that worked for RedFinch.”

      Cohen hired the owner of the tech firm RedFinch Solutions LLC, John Gauger, to set up a fake account that would portray him as a “sex symbol” during the 2016 presidential campaign, according to Business Insider.

      “We were having fun,” Cohen said.

    3. “What kind of gross, self-serving monster would hire Cohen”

      Apparently Democrats who after 2 years of searching and finding no evidence now wish Cohen to lie for them and in lying potentially keep a reduced sentence as payment.

      The Democrats use typical Stalinist methods. First the man testifies one way. They put the screws to him and he testifies the same which is not to their liking. Then they increase the pressure until he lies the right way, the way they want. What a crock of sh-t comes out of Cohen’s mouth, but then again who is behind Cohen. None other than Lanny Davis the Clinton fixer who has fixed Clinton problems over and over again and at times hasn’t been fully truthful either.

      Take note todays hearings were supposed to start no less than 24 hours after Cohen released his evidence. in advance to the committee for their review. It was released late in the evening or at night but it appears CNN had all that information much earlier. Lanny Davis knows all the tricks on how to manage lies and protect the Clinton interests.

      Also take note that the hearings were limited in scope so the Republicans weren’t permitted to answer damaging questions. What is funny is how many answers to show himself in good light Cohen answered, but stalled with questions he didn’t want to answer until the questioning period was over.

          1. I know! Im joking. Like Cohen today…. what? what? I dont understand your question? stalling again and again

    4. Seven, count ’em, seven “minion” replies to Dave137’s most excellent post about The Great Deal Artist who once made a living pretending to fire people who pretended to work for him. Maybe they all want to be Apprentices for their beloved Sorcerer.

      Good job, Mr. 137.

  18. “Cohen has spent his career as a legal thug”

    There are a lot of lawyers that act in that fashion. Some of them even end up in Congress. However, with his testimony, the testimony of a proven liar, many Democrats will lionize him and declare him a hero who is trying to save the nation. Those Congressmen are as bad or worse than Cohen.

    1. Actually, I think lawyers in Congress tend to be people who had fairly brief and unremarkable careers in law ‘ere taking f/t public office. Walter Mondale, John Kerry, Handsy Joe Biden, and BO fit that description. A few are like upChuck Schumer and (reaching back) Tip O’Neill, who got the degree but never practiced. Joseph Lieberman gave up a mid-Law partnership for f/t public office, but (unless I’m mistaken) that’s atypical.

      1. A couple of well established, prominent lawyers with decades working outside of DC made their way to ( or near) the top of the DOJ.
        I don’t think that John Mitchell really coveted the Attorney General job, but took it anyone because of his close relationship with Nixon.
        Webb Hubbell was closely intertwined with both Clintons in Arkansas, but I don’t know how politically active he was before going to D.C.

      2. that’s right because if they were having really good legal careers, they would not have wanted to be Congressman.

        1. The one’s I can think of did not put too many years into it. IIRC, Ted Kennedy practiced law for < 1 year, Christopher Dodd and Tom Harkin for < 2 years, Obama for 3, Biden and Mondale for about 4, Jerry Brown for about 5, John Kerry for 6 and change, AM McConnell four about 6, Harry Reid for about 9, Richard Gephardt and Gary Hart for about 10, and Richard Durbin for about 13. Hellary had a lucrative career in law, but there's reason to believe she was hired for her connections as she had a spotty employment history (and bad references) prior to her husband taking office as state attorney-general. John Edwards had a lucrative career; the rap on him is that he got rich as a plaitiff's personal injury lawyer making ample use of Erin-Brockovich-style junk science.

      3. Joe Lieberman shouldn’t be placed with most of those guys. I might differ with some of his ideology but he was mostly a stand up guy.

        1. Ronald Reagan once offered that he wanted for his cabinet people for whom it was a step down to take the job. Politicians who’ve done other things with their life and could be doing other things are more appealing than the usual sort (ceteris paribus; Howard Dean and Ron Paul are among those with a life outside of politics).

      1. Tom, an article from 25 years ago..?? Apparently time is moving faster than you realize.

        1. One “monster” as president is just as good as another.
          If Trump was a “monster” for hiring and keeping Cohen, then
          by that logic Clinton was a monster for going farther than that and placing his buddy Webb in a senior DOJ position.
          I know that a fair-minded, objective person😒 like you, and the one who posted the “monster question,” would agree.

  19. In the end, the White House attacks on Cohen come at a cost. As bad as Cohen was, he was the President’s choice as counsel both before and after the election.

    Do you honestly think he’s the only lawyer the Trump Organization and the Trump family had on the payroll?

    1. a billoinaire employs hundreds of lawyers I’d imagine, various ways, indirectly or directly, but he was tight with Cohen, seems fair to say

      1. “but he was tight with Cohen, seems fair to say”

        Depends on what you mean by tight. I am sure he trusted others a lot more than he trusted Cohen.

        1. Trump wasn’t “tight enough” with Cohen to give him a job in the Trump Administration.
          Cohen was still able to cash in on his connection with Trump, with big payoffs from at least a couple of major companies.
          Selling them “access” to Trump. To really keep that cash machine going, Cohen wanted an actual official role in the Trump Administration.
          That factor was brought out in yesterday’s committee hearing.
          There’s no way of knowing if being rebuffed for a White House job factored into Cohen’s decision to “flip”…..he had plenty of other incentives to do so.
          But it’d be interesting to compare the pre-election Trump-Cohen relationship with the post-election Trump-Cohen relationship.
          If Cohen felt spurned, unrewarded for his loyalty, and he anticipate a set of legal problems that would be coming down the road, he may have leaned toward flipping against Trump long before the Cohen indictments were handed down.

          1. “he may have leaned toward flipping against Trump long before the Cohen indictments ”

            Tom, it is in Cohen’s nature to change loyalties at a drop of a hat. Look at his history. Look at how he was able to scam the Taxi industry; medallions. Look at how he was able to scam bankers, lawyers and Bank Presidents when in reality he was a complete nobody that never produced anything. Look at how quickly he turns 180 degrees in front of Congress and to many Democrats sounds so convincing. Those that believe Cohen are the dupes Mark M. is always talking about. Cohen reminds us all of that Nigerian prince who has to cash $10,000,000 and needs and will pay for your personal assistance by giving him your bank account

  20. If every source of evidence is suspect, then how can facts be determined? If truth is only a function of one’s “point of view”, ala Obi Wan, then there is no reality. Cognitive dissonance results in chaos.

    1. Trump signed a check. Cohen’s bringing it with him to Congress along with two other checks–one rumored to have been signed by Trump Organization accountant, Alan Weisselberg; the other, by Donald Trump Jr. Gee. I wonder what those last check was for?

        1. Roger Stone says Trump doesn’t pay for anything. So who actually paid Trump the money Trump used to reimburse Cohen? One of those Russian or Ukrainian attendees at Trump’s inauguration?

          1. It’s “highly probable” that the check Cohen produced was made out in rubles…..I could not see the copy Cohen produced.
            There needs to be a closer examination of the check(s) involved and the currency and bank the checks were drawn on.

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