Brunei Adopts Islamic Sharia Law To Stone Homosexuals and Adulterers To Death

Emblem of Brunei

The nation of Brunei has taken the final plunge into extreme Islamic laws with the adoption of the medieval Sharia law. As a result, the kingdom will stone to death homosexuals and adulterers. The expansion of Sharia law into Asia is a troubling development for human rights and civil liberties.

The new penal code will compel stonings to be “witnessed by a group of Muslims.”

While a country of only 450,000, the application of strict Islamic law will institutionalize the medieval Islamic abuse of homosexuals, religious minorities, women, and others.

The move is the latest example of the extreme views of the Sultan of Brunei, Hassanal Bolkiah, who previously banned joint celebrations over the holidays by Muslims and Christians. His views and practices are so extreme that his purchase of the famed Beverly Hills Hotel has led to a long-standing boycott. He has now combined his authoritarian rule with extremist orthodoxy.

83 thoughts on “Brunei Adopts Islamic Sharia Law To Stone Homosexuals and Adulterers To Death”

  1. This is from Bill Maher on the whole Brunei thing:
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    Bill Maher and his panelists S.E. Cupp and Andrew Sullivan slammed George Clooney for his call for a boycott of the Dorchester Collection hotel group because it’s owned by the government of Brunei, which will shortly implement a punishment of death by stoning for gay sex.

    Said Maher: “This really bothers me because it’s chickensh*t tokenism because, what about Saudi Arabia? If you really want to get back at them, stop driving. Don’t use oil.”

    Added Sullivan: “The nice thing about a free society is that you can have your political life, and then you can have your actual life. Love and sex and friendship and activities. Not everything you buy has to be filtered through this political lens. … We shouldn’t be dictating our lives like a religion, according to the dictates of wokeness. It kills the vitality of a society.”

    “It’s not just Saudi Arabia,” Cupp chimed in. “It’s UAE where Hollywood does a ton of business.”

    “And don’t go to a cocktail party with MBS (Mohammad Bin Salman, the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia),” added Sullivan, “a torturer and dictator. Hollywood sucked up to him incredibly. As if there was no worry about a dictator who is currently sweeping his own family of possible enemies.”

    Maher continued: “George Clooney’s a really smart guy who made a movie Syriana which is about the Middle East. … I don’t think you could make that movie if you really didn’t know what was going on. … This idea that the Sultan of Brunei is going over the receipts from the Polo Lounge, ‘oh no! We only sold two soups today!’”

    Sullivan piled on to take a swipe at Rachel Maddow: “People can smell it. Its just virtue signaling. It’s like that whole Rachel Maddow smug thing. And it’s like, ‘no you’re not.’”

    “Let’s just take down one liberal at a time,” Maher laughed.

    http://www.towleroad.com/2019/03/bill-maher-brunei/
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    Squeeky Fromm
    Girl Reporter

  2. What is this great love affair the West has with sodomy??? I mean really. is the act of putting your weenie in someone’s rear end all that important? So important that you have to overlook the filthy aspects of it, and the dangers to people’s health. What if there was no sodomy on the world? Would civilization continue? I think so. Just. Imagine. . .hmmm. …! VOILA!

    Imagine (There’s No Sodomy)
    A Parody Song by Squeeky Fromm

    Imagine there’s no sodomy…
    It’s easy if you try!
    No more rectal prolapse!.
    Or ascending U T I’s!
    Imagine all the Homos,
    Without HIV eeee!

    You might say that I’m a dreamer,
    That it’s just pie in the sky!
    But what about this story
    And the Sultan in Brunei???

    Imagine there’s no homos
    And no Gaystapo, too!
    No pedophile Scout Masters,
    Or people with loose poo.
    Imagine all the bath rooms,
    With no holes in the stalls alllllll-

    You might say that it can’t happen
    That the Gays are here to stay,
    But labs can make diseases!
    Financed by the C I A!

    Squeeky Fromm
    Girl Reporter

    1. Why don’t you try thinking about something other than what people do with their “weenies”?

      Just a suggestion.

      1. BECAUSE – there is always somebody acting like the world is coming to an end (word play?) if the homos can’t do it. I mean really, aren’t we in the West making way too much of a big deal about the importance of sodomy??? It’s not healthy for the people who do it. I mean heck, we spend a lot of money on waste water treatment in thsi country for that very reason, that poopy causes diseases, and here we are acting like if people can coat their various body parts with it, then life just ain’t worth living. Doing it without a condom is the main way HIV spreads in the U.S, and most of the West. Just what is the big deal about??? Why is the “right” to doit sooo important? I think it is because the MSM is just chugging full of homos.

        I mean why else would the country go nuts over finding a cure for HIV/AIDS? All that a person has to do to not catch it is make the “top” put on a condom. That and don’t do IV drugs.

        Squeeky Fromm
        Girl Reporter

      2. That’s an admonition for us? Wasn’t our type who insisted on obsessive public attention to a 2.8% minority we were content to ignore. Trouble is a critical mass of them are attention-whores.

        While we’re at it, we have the spotlight on Brunei for a legal provision which it’s a reasonable wager will scarcely ever be executed. Because your disposition toward sexual deviancy is a marker of in-groups and out-groups among a certain sort of bourgeois.

        1. Something tells me that we probably don’t want to visualize the sexual acts of the various heteros here with their mate – legal or otherwise – every time the word marriage is brought up. Just a rough guess on my part of course. Why absurd and Sqeaky’s mind seek out that image when gay marriage and rights of non-discrimination are brought up is for them to explain. But maybe again just a guess – we should encourage them keep it to themselves.

          1. I’m sure this statement struck you as something other than non sequitur when you were typing it out.

            1. If you’re going to use Latin phrases to appear smart when you actually have nothing to say, you should at least rotate them occasionally. You did that one today.

              1. I don’t know how DDS used the term in his other remark but take note that Latin Phrase has two distinct meanings. It is both a logical fallacy and a literary device so for all I know he might actually used the phrase differently.

                  1. Fromm practices “vice-signaling” as an antidote to “virtue-signaling.” If Fromm spent more time NOT writing about what gay men do with their penises, then Fromm would suspect herself of having become a snowflake instead of a smudge-print.

            2. This is absurd x 3 says: March 31, 2019 at 8:07 PM

              “I’m sure this statement struck you as something other than non sequitur when you were typing it out.”

              When someone posts a homophobic comment on the blawg, the observation that that homophobe is obsessed with the very sexual behavior that she dreads is relevant to the homophobic comment at issue. Because the community standards that Fromm upholds hinge upon shunning that which her community forbids. Conversely, no other community forbids Fromm that which Fromm dreads. Instead, Fromm only forbids herself.

  3. There are quite a few Americans that would agree with that kind of law here. Our own American Taliban comes to mind Or at least the ones who want to throw out the constitution, and replace it with “God’s Law” Their book also said to stone to death for wearing two types of cloth, or planting crops to close together. Also on March 20 2016, all the GOP delegates declared homosexuality a biblical sin punishable by death. Look it up, The Daily Beast published 3-20-2016.

    1. I had no idea FishWings was locating the few libraries who stock the work of RJ Rushdoony and poring over them.

      1. I try to read everything and anything I get my mitts on, right, left, and center. The far right and the far left crack me up. And they are both dangerous to any civilized society.

        1. I try to read everything and anything I get my mitts on, right, left, and center.

          That’s great. Trying to read is the important first step to understanding. Eventually you’ll have a breakthrough and succeed in actually reading. You’ll likely struggle for a while trying to understand what you’re reading, but don’t give up. It’s well worth it.

  4. They didn’t get the memo, that we are now in the 21st century.

  5. GEORGE CLOONEY CALLS FOR BOYCOTT OF BRUNEI-OWNED HOTELS

    Hollywood actor George Clooney is calling for a boycott of nine luxury hotels with links to Brunei, after the country said gay sex and adultery would soon be punishable by death.
    From 3 April, homosexuals could face being whipped or stoned in the tiny South East Asian state.

    In 2014, Brunei became the first East Asian country to adopt Islamic Sharia law despite widespread condemnation.

    Mr Clooney said the new laws amounted to “human rights violations”.

    “In the onslaught of news where we see the world backsliding into authoritarianism this stands alone,” the actor wrote in a column for the entertainment website Deadline.

    “Brunei is a Monarchy and certainly any boycott would have little effect on changing these laws”, he said. “But are we really going to help pay for these human rights violations?”

    He said Dorchester Collection hotels in the US, UK, France and Italy, which are owned by the Brunei Investment Agency, should be avoided by those who oppose the measures.
    Brunei, on the island of Borneo, is ruled by Sultan Hassanal Bolkiah and has grown rich on oil and gas exports.

    The Sultan owns the Brunei Investment Agency, which counts some of the world’s top hotels in its portfolio, including the Dorchester in London and the Beverly Hills Hotel in Los Angeles.

    Edited from: “George Clooney Calls For Hotel Boycott Over Brunei LGBT Laws”

    Today’s BBC

    1. sheep : what does the Bible say about this? in John 8 when people wanted to stone the woman taken into adultery, what did Jesus do ? none of us has the right or the authority to judge-to pass life death sentence,(James 8:12) because none of us can foresee the future, what if they repent later in their life? but for Christians love we out to find fault of one another for the sake our eternal interest.according to the Scripture the Word of God
      ****And Jesus said unto her Neither do i condemn thee: go and sin no more.

  6. Could have been worse. They could have forced that segment to have Ocasio or a Pelosi Schumer combination speak on their behalf. Seriously. It reminds me of the ban on pork. Put in place because of trichinosis etc. The intentional spreading of diseases should requrire some level of retribution. It’s no different than sending citizens to wars and then joining the other side as practiced by the Socialist (AKA DNC Party.)

    1. @Michael Aarethun says:
      ???
      So which of those 2 Bear ‘hunters’ are you in the pictures?
      Intentional spreading of disease to be sure….the disease is called ‘FEAR’.

  7. Let’s think abut this. The Muslim Brotherhood pledges itself to destroy the West and western values along with the Constitution replacing them with Sharia Law. It appears representative Omar has strong ties to the MB and CAIR. Her history in the US is questionable. Though publically interviewed by the left she has never been asked the questions of bigamy and fraud. Apparently when illegalities exist or might exist on the left these important things are ignored.

    One prominent individual writes about Omar: “Omar is a 35-year-old mother of three and is America’s first elected Somali representative. She was married in an Islamic ceremony in 2002 at the age of 19, but never officially led a certification in any government office. In 2009 she married a man whom people have accused of being her brother for citizenship purposes (and is still legally married to), and finally reunited with her first ‘husband’ in 2011, who she is still with today.”

    The left doesn’t feel the need to sort those things out but we need to recognize that the killing of homosexuals is a good thing according to Sharia Law much like the killing of babies is moral to the left. Breaking the law as an immigrant is acceptable for one that supports the MB just like breaking the law by Smollett is acceptable for those on the left that support Hollywood.

    I hope the homosexual community and all other communities not acceptable to Sharia Law (almost everyone) take note of who they support before they lose their heads when they vote.

        1. Diane, you don’t know how to dot your ‘i’s and cross your ‘t’s so I leave a few lying around for you to pick up.

  8. Saudi Arabia is a locale where the application of Sharia law has been abiding and vigorous. Over the last 10 years, they’ve executed a mean of 100 persons per year, at a rate of 0.33 executions per 100,000 residents per year. The homicide rate in Saudi Arabia is around 1.5 persons per 100,000.

    Brunei’s homicide rate is variable but averages about 0.54 per year. If the country’s propensity to apply capital sentences proves to be similar to that of Saudi Arabia, there should be 0.12 executions per 100,000 residents (per year). That would mean 20-odd executions over the next 35 years. The smart money says few if any will be for any crime other than murder.

  9. “the kingdom will stone to death homosexuals and adulterers.”

    Throw in the gluttonous and slothful, and the Western World would cease to exist.

    Now there is a thought

    Mespo need not worry. We have his arse covered 😉

  10. This is the grim reality of Islamic Law. It’s mainstream in Islamic countries. This is also why I hope very much that Islam can be reformed into a more peaceful religion. Moderate, Westernized Muslims who ignore the brutal parts could be considered Protestants, because they sure are not following the example of the life of Mohammad.

    People in the US can worship, or not, any way they want as long as they follow our laws. Everyone should get along. The reality of Islam as it’s practiced in its strict form is contrary to Western values, and highly problematic. It abuses human rights, according to our own belief system. Antisemitism is encoded in the Qu’ran itself.

    Every religion has gone through its reformation period. Catholicism, in particular, is due for another major overhaul. Islam is no different from any other faith that needs to go through such changes. I do hope that it reforms. It’s not the Pillars that are the problem. Reform is a bit of a touchy subject, however.

    I’ve known quite a few US Muslims who just ignore all the problematic parts, and take great comfort in the Qu’ran. They are tolerant, get along with everyone, close knit families, and good people. The problem is that this is not the general state of affairs in any Muslim majority country. If Muslim majority countries acted like Westernized Muslims, there would be no female genital mutilatin, women would be equal to men under the law, drive in Saudi Arabia, able to travel without a male escort, adoption would be allowed and those children would be heirs, there would be no jizya, no forced arranged marriages, no condoning wife beating, no anti-semtiism, or ISIS, or Boko Haram, or any of the thousands of terrorist attacks or persecution of Christians. No throwing gay men off buildings. No more capital punishment of gay men. No floggings. No stoning of women. No honor killings to restore the family honor. Daughters would be protected not executed. Can you imagine a world where Muslim majority nations lived like many US Muslims do? I can, and it’s lovely.

    1. This story reminded me of the reports of SJWs traveling in Muslim majority countries, intent on proving to the world that it is just like the West, only to be brutally murdered.

      The reality is that the world is not all exactly the same. Most places are not much like the US, at all.

      I am troubled at the downward trend in these regions. I was hoping for some improvement, that enough time had passed from the Arab Spring and a string of upheavals. A willingness to join the Western World. To some degree, there are similar problems now as the past thousand years.

      1. You speak as though the 40,000 people killed with guns in this country last year wasn’t brutal.

        1. Or all the animals killed by neglect or abuse? What about domestic abuse? Murder? Enron? DUI?

          No, I did preface a critique of Sharia Law with a condemnation of all crimes in the US, as that would make no sense. I also want to save the whales, if that makes you feel better.

          I also did not bring up the pedophilia and gay orgy scandals in the Catholic Church, but when I discuss that topic on relevant posts, it does come up.

          Relevance.

        2. Arlene, you might be using the number 40,000 to impress us with a high number but almost 60% of that number are suicides not murder and that doesn’t show the number of lives saved by others carrying guns. It’s stil brutal and the death rate could be reduced if the concentrated areas of death by bullet changed their politics since the greatest density of murder by bullet happens to occur in Democratic areas.

          Of course if one worries about death rates one can recognize that overdose deaths are rapidly increasing and passed 70,000 in a year. That too is a problem due to our border security something not taken seriously by Democrats.

      2. “I am troubled at the downward trend in these regions.” — Karen

        Why? Do you live there?

        You denigrate others while not noticing ‘downward trends’ in your own back yard?

        1. R Lien – am I not permitted to condemn brutality abroad, and must only discuss domestic problems? Women are quite lucky here. We do not face a fraction of the institutionalized brutality they must bear in the Middle East, that is so pervasive that even the women of their own family enable it.

          Luckily, I live in a country the free speech. I am allowed to have an opinion on whatever topic interests me. The global plight of women and children does, indeed, interest me.

          If you would prefer to only hear about troubles in another region, how about Africa?

          https://foreignpolicy.com/2010/02/11/africas-forever-wars/

  11. I wish it were not so, but the Sultan of Brunei is not the radical that professor Turley makes him out to be. The Sultan is merely adhering to orthodox Islamic law. The Reliance of the Traveller (sic.) is the classic manual of Islamic sacred law and is certified as a correct statement of Islamic law by the four Sunni schools of Islamic law, Hanafi, Maliki, Shafi’i, and Hanbali. Section o12 of the Reliance of the Traveller (sic.) is entitled, The Penalty For Fornication or Sodomy, and defines the offense as well as the penalty. The Sultan is merely following the guidance of Islamic law, i.e. shariah law.

  12. Back in the early 90’s I worked in Beverly Hills and had some acquaintance with the Brunei royal family. They were generous visitors to service employees of B H. Anyone who dealt with them was gratefully rewarded.

    But their visits to Los Angels mostly consisted of meaningless shopping expeditions. And meaningless visits to theme parks. Despite their billions in oil wealth, the family and their entourage was strangely unremarkable; far less interesting than locals of Beverly Hills.

    A faction of the Brunei family lives in London. Brunei is a former British Colony. So family members maintain London homes and a frequent presence there. At one of their London homes burglars stole millions in cash.

    There was so much cash, in fact, the burglars couldn’t bag it all. So millions were left behind! The incident was reported as a ‘Page 10’ story in American papers. Because the Brunei family was not that well known.

    More recently I read that the Sultan’s brother has a commercial-like parking structure at his Brunei palace. And there he keeps a fleet of Rolls Royces. But the parking structure has no climate control.

    Consequently the rubber tubing in all those Rolls Royces is rotting from Brunei’s tropical humidity. And apparently there’s more rubber tubing in cars than most of his us actually realize. So this fleet of Rolls Royces is just rotting away. One of those silly things that happens to insanely rich people in boring small kingdoms.

    1. The Royals are always running amuck in LA. When their family is here, they can be quite generous hosts.

      What a waste of those cars.

  13. Good for Brunei! They will probably stone a couple of homos a year, and the rest of them will be a lot more careful about their promiscuous hookups. Probably cut them down from 500 a year to a mere 50. Less homos will die of HIV/AIDS then get stoned, so paradoxically, this is even a good thing for the Sodomites. And, public restrooms and interstate rest stops will be safe again! (Brunei does have interstate rest stops, doesn’t it???)

    Plus, how very white of us to think that we are so superior to other cultures that we can dictate their morality for them.

    Squeeky Fromm
    Girl Reporter

    1. Careful Squeeky,

      Give Late4Dinner & his bros a chance to get their white KKK Robes & Hoods on & their Chains in their pickups to drag those homos & darkies down the road like their LA/NYC/Chiraq.Baltimore kind used to.

      1. Ha-Ha! I’m The Boogeyman of The Joad Family of Oklahoma, now. For the life of me I can’t remember the last time I came sweeping down The Plain on The Mother Road. I do have a vague memory of a surly little cairn terrier in a picnic basket, though. You remember anything about that Pa?

    2. Part of one of your sentences should read, “Fewer homos . . . than get stoned, . . .” Grammatically incorrect bigotry is so unbecoming, particularly in young women supposedly possessed of southern sensibilities.

      And yes, more powerful countries have historically dictated morality for the people of less powerful countries. That is fundamental to all empires created through policies of imperialism, colonialism and slavery.

      Finally, there are indeed legal systems that are morally superior to others, at least for those who take seriously the study of law and moral philosophy. Public beheadings, stonings and floggings are not punishments-they are state sanctioned acts of terrorism intended to impose by intimidation that which reason will not accept. They debase alike the victims, the executioners and the lynch mobs that gather for the spectacle.

      1. I should add that the fact that a legal system is based upon religious beliefs does not grant it immunity from criticism.

        1. BUT, one moral code is based upon one’s own morals. You think sodomy is just peachy, and that what two (or more) filthy perverts do in their own bedroom, or city park, or public restroom, is nobody’s business. Other people don’t think that way, and instead believe that perversion, filth, and corruption spreads beyond wherever the sodomy occurs. That it infects the community around it.

          Which, if you think about it, you probably believe that too. Which is why you don’t want people preaching anti-semitism, or neo-nazi beliefs – – – because evil things tend to spread.

          Squeeky Fromm
          Girl Reporterf

      2. And yes, more powerful countries have historically dictated morality for the people of less powerful countries. That is fundamental to all empires created through policies of imperialism, colonialism and slavery.

        Brunei isn’t part of any empire.

      3. Public beheadings, stonings and floggings are not punishments-they are state sanctioned acts of terrorism

        No, they are punishments. One might prefer a firing squad or a rattan cane. Capital and corporal punishments cannot be definitively ruled out.

        1. The execution of a death sentence does not have to be a public spectacle–not even if Triply Absurd says “it’s spinach.”

      4. @ Mike, yes, well said.

        “Public beheadings, stonings and floggings are not punishments-they are state sanctioned acts of terrorism intended to impose by intimidation that which reason will not accept. ”

        Exquisitely said, in truth.

    3. Fromm said, “fewer homos will die of HIV/AIDS than get stoned.”

      And fewer smokers would die of smoking-related illnesses if we stoned smokers to death. Paradoxically, if they were smoking marijuana, then more smokers would die of stoning than get stoned.

  14. Well, we can’t have it both ways. Either we admit that some religions are better than others and condemn the excesses of the inferior ones or we live the globalist fantasy that all belief systems are to be valued equally and toleration is the prime directive. Which will it be as the rocks are tossed?

    1. Mespo,

      Some religions are considered religions & not governing bodies, others “IE: Islam are ” Invading Armies” Governing Bodies Cloated as a Religion”. IE: Not qualified to be subjected to the 1st Amendment here but subjected to Crimes against the State.

      I don’t know, but I can’t help but wonder what was St James thinking in his time?

      1. The Apocrypha claims that St James was thinking about Louis Armstrong singing the blues like this:

        I went down to St. James Infirmary,
        Saw my baby there,
        Stretched out on a long white table,
        So cold, so sweet, so fair.

        Let her go, let her go, God bless her,
        Wherever she may be,
        She can look this wide world over,
        But she’ll never find a sweet man like me.

    2. What to make of the excesses of your implied superior religion? Do you forget those hallowed actions of same?

      1. R. Lien:

        What to make of the excesses of your implied superior religion? Do you forget those hallowed actions of same?”
        ***************************
        The Spanish Inquistion was about 500 years ago; the Muslim Inqusition in on-going. Maybe you can now discern a difference between the two religions. Or not.

        1. I made no notice of the Spanish Inquisition.

          Maybe someday you can discern the effects of foreign policy with blowback and sip your scotch more humbly while you puff your chest out.

          1. R. Lien:

            “I made no notice of the Spanish Inquisition.

            Maybe someday you can discern the effects of foreign policy with blowback and sip your scotch more humbly while you puff your chest out.”
            *****************************

            Foreign policy is designed to further the interests of the United States and no one else. That, of course, has no connection to your comment about religion ( i.e., “the hallowed actions of [superior religions]’) but then again disjointed thoughts are your speciality. Carry on, I like a good shipwreck.

            1. Virtually no administration – even including the current one – has as it’s policy only furthering the interests of the US. Besides for the obvious benefits of acting in consort with allies, who’s interests we share, we have a tradition of acting in support of human rights, within the reasonable limits of our abilities.

              1. Anon: You’re dreaming or just dumb. We don’t enter alliances for benefit of the other guy. It might benefit him But that’s collateral. Human rights promotion is in our interests since it creates a more stable works. It’s not some moral crusade except to the genetically naive. It’s why we don’t complain when our allies deny civil rights. See Saudi, UK etc. Get a book.

                1. mespo727272 says: March 29, 2019 at 12:25 AM

                  Either we admit that some religions are better than others and condemn the excesses of the inferior ones or we live the globalist fantasy that all belief systems are to be valued equally . . .

                  mespo727272 says: March 29, 2019 at 5:15 AM

                  [T]he Muslim Inquisition in on-going. Maybe you can now discern a difference between the two religions. Or not.

                  mespo727272 says: March 29, 2019 at 11:30 AM

                  Foreign policy is designed to further the interests of the United States and no one else. That, of course, has no connection to your comment about religion ( i.e., “the hallowed actions of [superior religions]’) but then again disjointed thoughts are your specialty.

                2. The Protestant Reformation contributed to the historical construction of The Nation-State. The Nation-States of Western Europe had also set out far and wide to colonize as much of the remainder of the world as they could for the express purpose of extracting sufficient wealth as to maintain the balance of power in Europe. Oddly enough, the doctrine of the balance of power dates back to Francis The First King of France in 1380, IIRC, and was specifically applied to French support for The Ottoman Empire in its effort to expand into Austria, which the French perceived as a potential peer-rival the growing power of which had to be checked.

                  Later on, during the reign of Henry The Seventh King of England, The English started propping up The Ottoman Empire for the same reason the French had. And that adherence to the doctrine of the balance of power continued even after Napoleon Bonaparte had temporarily invalidated it. Some observers claim the doctrine of the balance of power did not come to an end until it was replaced by the super-power conflict between the United States and The Soviet Union. But then, those are the same observers who claim that the doctrine of the balance of power is in the process of being revived by such luminaries as, say, Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump, for instance, just to name two.

                  So what’s my point? Well, the thing that Mespo derides as “the globalist fantasy” appears to be a historical product of the foreign policies of those Western European Nation-States who just so happen to practice what Mespo regards as a religion superior to Islam. Wait. Let me do a quick double check on that . . . Yes! I do believe that that is my point. Although, one might add a word or two about The Age of Atavism being wrought by Putin and Trump. But I’ll save that for another occasion.

                3. Mespo said, “We don’t enter alliances for benefit of the other guy.”

                  The historical process of decolonization was initiated on The Fourth of July in the year 1776 by the signers of our Declaration of Independence. Hoorah!
                  The historical process of decolonization has remained the peculiar genius of We The People of The United States of America as well as our finest contribution to world history thus far. We have been richly remunerated for our efforts at fostering and promoting the decolonization of the world. We have become the sole surviving super-power because of it. The greatest nation on the face of The Earth.

                  And along comes some juvenile delinquent street punk from Queens who wants to build a wall to shut the world out whilst selling the foreign policy of the United States for personal and family financial gain. We are now The United States of Amnesiacs donning baseball caps that read Make Amnesia Great Again. Pshaw!

                4. mespo – you posted: “…Human rights promotion is in our interests since it creates a more stable works.,,,”

                  Exactly. We can argue whether it is possible for humans to act truly in any other way than self interest, but that applies on any level, from international to national, local, and with individuals. It’s the same principle. Let’s not have the argument about what if anything constitutes altruism which I don’t think we’ll solve. If it is to our benefit to help others – and as social animals that is the basis for our success – the same principle applies on an international level., only once, twice, three times removed from the tribe.

      1. LOL, mespo………or Middle East Side Story featuring the hit song 🎵🎵 ” Sharia…..I just met a law named Sharia!”🎶

            1. Cindy,
              I saw him in concert in Spokane in about that same time period.
              He did one-man shows….it was a pretty good performance.
              Seems like he really faded out after a few years of selling a lot of records.
              I think he has a son who is an actor- singer….I saw his name in the credits of a movie, and he was billed as Donavan Lietch, not Donavan Lietch Jr.
              But given his age and the year of the movie, I assumed it was his son.

              1. Tom…..yes, according to wiki, that’s his son. How lucky you got to see his daddy in person.
                I used to teach his song ” I Love My Shirt ” to my school kids…..now to my grandchildren!

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