“Sharpiegate”: Trump Ridiculed For Altered Hurricane Forecast

Fox News joined other networks yesterday in ridiculing a truly bizarre moment from the Oval Office where Trump appeared to show a forecast map of Hurricane Dorian with a hastily drawn extension into Alabama. Trump previously claimed that Alabama was in the hurricane’s projected path and was widely contradicted (including by federal officials). He then showed up with the map that seemed to have an extension written by a Sharpie. It was another bizarre misstep that expanded a minor story into a major embarrassment. Trump had to personally deny that he took a Sharpie to the altered map in what people are humorously calling “Sharpiegate.

The apparent Sharpie job was no clumsy and amateurish that one had to wonder if someone on the staff was being passive aggressive and intentionally trying to make Trump look ridiculous. Anyone looking at that altered map would have said that it looked absurdly altered. That obviously did not include Trump himself.

Trump’s initial misstatement over Alabama was not particularly serious. Once could see how the mistake could have been made. Trump could have just let it drop or even, perish the thought, admitted that he was wrong. Parts of Alabama was likely to get heavy rain but was not really in the path. Trump however doubled down.

Trump had already objected to the critics over his Alabama claim and returned to the subject by raising the National Weather Service’s early forecasts of Hurricane Dorian’s path. In what was clearly an effort to quiet the criticism, Trump declared “We got lucky in Florida, very, very lucky indeed. We had actually our original chart was that it was going to be hitting Florida directly… And that would have affected a lot of other states.”

Fox correctly reported that this was not the map issued by the government. In discussing the scene with Bret Baier, John Roberts noted that there was never a forecast track into Alabama and “You can see somebody with a Sharpie or some other writing instruments added a little bit to the cone of uncertainty, which was not a part of the official forecast, which included the Florida panhandle and parts of Alabama.”

This is yet another example of how this White House and this President is ignoring a fundamental rule of life and politics: when you are in a hole, stop digging.

1,081 thoughts on ““Sharpiegate”: Trump Ridiculed For Altered Hurricane Forecast”

  1. A statement issued by NOAA said, “….information provided by NOAA and the National Hurricane Center to President Trump and the wider public determined that tropical-storm-force winds from Hurricane Dorian could impact Alabama.” Don’t hold your breath waiting for this to be reported on CNN or MSNBC.

    1. RSA, it’s been reported that Trump’s ‘Acting Head’ of NOAA was politically pressured to issue that ‘unsigned’ statement.

      1. Bwahahahahaaha

        🤣🤣🤣

        So true. Hill is a piece of work, a frustrated little gurl

      2. Peter it’s been reported that the anonymous reports that littered the Washington Post about the Russia hoax “was politically pressured” but you thought the Post reported the facts. Now we have proof of the hoax and the anonymous reporting which was politically motivated but you are still spewing your cr-p. You are a hypocrite.

  2. “The federal agency that monitors hurricanes said Friday that Hurricane Dorian could have impacted Alabama, backing claims by President Trump that he was right to tweet a warning over the weekend about the storm affecting the state.

    In an unsigned statement, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) said that “information provided by NOAA and the National Hurricane Center to President Trump and the wider public demonstrated that tropical-storm-force winds from Hurricane Dorian could impact Alabama.” The advisories in question were dated from Wednesday, Aug. 28 to Monday, Sept. 2, the agency said.”

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/weather-officials-say-dorian-could-have-impacted-alabama-as-trump-said

    Apparently, the brouhaha was over semantics. NOAA objected to Trump’s use of certainty in his description of the impact to Alabama, when NOAA’s initial information was that it could be impacted.

    It’s rather strange that this has become a major news story. It’s not that big a deal. NOAA did in fact inform Trump that Alabama could be impacted. Trump made a statement that Alabama was in danger. NOAA said it wouldn’t, and for some reason did not remark that Alabama was in the risk zone they informed Trump about. I don’t know if that was political sniping or what. Trump or someone else drew on the map to show what they had initially been told was the impact zone.

    Why is everyone getting upset? All Trump had to say was, well, I was told Alabama was in danger and was concerned. All NOAA had to say was, well, we did in fact warn Trump that Alabama could be impacted.

    Now we have ridiculous claims that Trump should be charged with a crime for writing on a NOAA map, just like weather girls and guys do all the time with graphics.

    Simmer down. The poles have not reversed and it’s not raining cats and dogs.

    1. “It’s rather strange that this has become a major news story. It’s not that big a deal. NOAA did in fact inform Trump that Alabama could be impacted. ”

      This demonstrates that the left has nothing to offer.

    2. Karen, look again at your post. It says, “In an unsigned statement”. That’s significant! It means no one wanted their name linked to that statement.

      1. “It says, “In an unsigned statement”. That’s significant! It means no one wanted their name linked to that statement.”

        Amazing how Peter HIll forgets that most of his reporting from the Washington Post relied on anonymous statements.

        Someone needs to write a book on the hypocritical standards of Peter Hill Shill.

    3. Karen, here’s the news.

      1. Your cult leader has no regard for facts and his followers like you – and his political appointees who head the NOAA and the Commerce Dept. – will bend over backwards to confirm whatever fantasy he comes up with.
      2. The unsigned NOAA letter, which has been denounced by it’s past head among others for corrupting the agency and it’s reputation, is even more alarming than the president’s self centered tantrum of the last week. Our previously respected, non partisan, and technical services are being politicized for the worst of reasons. This is in dictator territory for the subjugation of the people’s government to prop up the Dear Leader. Disgusting.
      3. The facts remain that the cone NEVER included Alabama and at the time Trump made his initial error – no big deal, issue a short correction from staff and move on – the cone was 200 miles from Alabama and heading away from it.

      If you buy this horses…t you’ll buy anything from this lying, self centered, low life.

      But I guess we already knew that.

      1. Anonymous, your cone is the dunce cap on your head. The cone represents probabilities and excludes the predictions of numerous models. Take a course in statistics. The number of nails you use is greater than the number of screws. If someone were to draw a graphic (cone) to show the probability of what you will pick next it would surround the nail, but that doesn’t guarantee you won’t use a screw.

  3. The bizarre antics of the day glo bozo are causing even his sycophantic minions to question his mental state: Business Insider and Reuters have the goods….

    He’s losing his s—‘: Trump’s advisers are increasingly worried about his mental state following days of erratic behavior

    Business Insider Sonam Sheth

    Reuters

    President Donald Trump’s aides and confidants are increasingly worried about his mental state after days of erratic behavior and wild outbursts.

    “No one knows what to expect from him anymore,” one former White House official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal conversations about the president, told Insider. “His mood changes from one minute to the next based on some headline or tweet, and the next thing you know his entire schedule gets tossed out the window because he’s losing his s—.”

    Trump has spent the past several days fixated on his false claim that Alabama was going to be hit by Hurricane Dorian. He has also taken time to lob attacks at his perceived enemies, like the actress Debra Messing, former FBI Director James Comey, and the “LameStream media.”

    “He’s deteriorating in plain sight,” one Republican strategist who is in frequent contact with the White House told Insider on Friday.

    But one person who was close to Trump’s legal team during the Russia investigation told Insider his public statements were “nothing compared to what he’s like behind closed doors.”

    “He’s like a bull seeing red,” this person added. “There’s just no getting through to him, and you can kiss your plans for the day goodbye because you’re basically stuck looking after a 4-year-old now.”

    President Donald Trump’s aides and confidants are growing more and more concerned about his mental state after days of erratic behavior, wild outbursts, and bizarre fixations.

    “No one knows what to expect from him anymore,” one former White House official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal conversations about the president, told Insider. “His mood changes from one minute to the next based on some headline or tweet, and the next thing you know his entire schedule gets tossed out the window because he’s losing his s—.”

    The president’s advisers are particularly worried about his stubborn refusal to acknowledge that a tweet he sent over the weekend claiming that Alabama was going to be hit by Hurricane Dorian was false. They believe that his frustration is compounded by stress about the 2020 election and the economy’s recent downturn.

    “People are used to the president saying things that aren’t true, but this Alabama stuff is another story,” the former official said. “This was the president sending out patently false information about a national-emergency situation as it was unfolding.”

    Trump’s latest outbursts on the matter came Friday as he railed against the media for fact-checking him on the claim.

    “The Fake News Media was fixated on the fact that I properly said, at the beginnings of Hurricane Dorian, that in addition to Florida & other states, Alabama may also be grazed or hit,” he tweeted. “They went Crazy, hoping against hope that I made a mistake (which I didn’t). Check out maps.”

    Trump went on to complain that “this nonsense has never happened to another President. Four days of corrupt reporting, still without an apology. But there are many things that the Fake News Media has not apologized to me for, like the Witch Hunt, or SpyGate! The LameStream Media and their Democrat … partner should start playing it straight. It would be so much better for our Country!”

    Later Friday, the president posted a misleading video that included a CNN clip from Wednesday, August 28, in which a reporter discussed how the hurricane was threatening several US states, including Alabama. The video then played the reporter saying “Alabama” on loop, cut to a clip of Trump nodding, and then to a doctored clip of CNN’s logo superimposed onto a moving truck which careened off the road and caught fire.

    But Trump’s first tweet about Alabama being in Hurricane Dorian’s path came on Saturday, by which time weather forecasters had determined that it was not going to be hit.

    As of Friday evening, Trump had posted 13 tweets and five maps about Alabama and the storm to try to prove his original tweet was correct, despite the fact that he’d been publicly rebuked by the National Weather Service. He also showed reporters an altered map of the storm’s path on Wednesday to defend his claims, a move that may even be illegal, according to federal law.

    “He’s deteriorating in plain sight,” one Republican strategist who’s in frequent contact with the White House told Insider on Friday.

    Asked why the president was obsessed with Alabama instead of the states that would actually be affected by the storm, the strategist said, “you should ask a psychiatrist about that; I’m not sure I’m qualified to comment.”

    Trump often airs his grievances publicly, either on Twitter or while speaking with reporters, which means the world has an unprecedented window into the president’s stream of consciousness.

    For instance, on Labor Day weekend, as Hurricane Dorian battered the Bahamas and made its way to the US’s mainland, Trump took breaks in between golfing to post more than 120 tweets.

    In addition to updates on Hurricane Dorian and quote tweets of fawning praise of his presidency from Fox News, the subjects of Trump’s tweets included:

    Former FBI Director James Comey.
    Four freshman Democratic congresswomen of color known as “the squad.”
    AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka.
    “Failing New York Times columnist Paul Krugman.”
    “Amazon Washington Post.”
    The “LameStream Media.”
    The liberal actress and activist Debra Messing.

    ‘He’s like a bull seeing red’
    Messing provoked ire from both sides of the aisle when she posted a tweet last week calling for a public list of Trump donors who will attend an upcoming fundraiser for him in Beverly Hills, California.

    The “Will & Grace” actress’ tweet drew a harsh response from “The View” cohost Whoopi Goldberg, who likened it to the McCarthyism of the 1950s.

    Trump had Messing on his mind as recently as Thursday, when he referenced Goldberg’s comments and tweeted, “Bad ‘actress’ Debra The Mess Messing is in hot water. She wants to create a ‘Blacklist’ of Trump supporters, & is being accused of McCarthyism.”

    The president also latched onto another tweet Messing posted in which she praised a sign in front of an Alabama church implying that black voters who support Trump are mentally ill. Messing later apologized for “recklessly” sharing the sign and added that its use of the term “mentally ill” was “wrong & hurtful.”

    Trump called Messing a “racist because of the terrible things she said about blacks and mental illness” and added that if the actress Roseanne Barr — an avid Trump supporter — had said the same thing, she would have been fired.

    Barr was fired from her sitcom last year after making racist comments about an aide to former President Barack Obama. “Will Fake News NBC allow a McCarthy style Racist to continue?” Trump wrote, referring to Messing.

    The actress responded by linking to a New Yorker piece this week that detailed Trump’s wild behavior over the past month.

    She added that she hoped “his family gets him the help he needs. Sad.”

    Anthony Scaramucci, the former White House communications director, also weighed in on Trump’s state of mind on Friday.

    “I think the president is in severe mental decline, and I’m not saying that now because I’m a political adversary or I disavowed him. I’m saying that objectively just looking at what’s going on,” Scaramucci said at the Toronto Global Forum.

    This isn’t the first time questions have been raised about Trump’s mental state and his fitness for office. In fact, Trump’s mental stability is a regular topic of discussion in the White House.

    This was confirmed by the anonymous author of a famous 2018 New York Times op-ed who said Trump’s aides routinely ignore or dismiss his orders for the good of the country. Michael Wolff’s “Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House” and Bob Woodward’s “Fear: Trump in the White House” detailed similar instances.

    And the former special counsel Robert Mueller also found that Trump’s myriad efforts to obstruct the Russia investigation were largely unsuccessful only because his underlings refused to carry out his directives.

    One person who was close to Trump’s legal team during the Russia investigation told Insider his public statements were “nothing compared to what he’s like behind closed doors.”

    “He’s like a bull seeing red,” this person added. “There’s just no getting through to him, and you can kiss your plans for the day goodbye because you’re basically stuck looking after a 4-year-old now.”

    The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

  4. “Agency reverses course on Trump’s Alabama hurricane claim

    WASHINGTON (AP) — A federal agency reversed course Friday on the question of whether President Donald Trump tweeted stale information about Hurricane Dorian potentially hitting Alabama, upsetting meteorologists around the country.

    On Sunday, Trump had warned that Alabama, along with the Carolinas and Georgia, was “most likely to be hit (much) harder than anticipated.”

    The National Weather Service in Birmingham, Alabama, tweeted in response: “Alabama will NOT see any impacts from #Dorian. We repeat, no impacts from Hurricane #Dorian will be felt across Alabama. The system will remain too far east.”

    But the president has been adamant throughout the week that he was correct, and the White House has deployed government resources and staff to back him.

    The latest defense came out Friday evening, when the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration issued a statement from an unidentified spokesman stating that information provided by NOAA and the National Hurricane Center to the president had demonstrated that “tropical-storm-force winds from Hurricane Dorian could impact Alabama.” The advisories were dated from last Wednesday, Aug. 28, through Monday, the statement read.

    Friday’s statement also said the Birmingham NWS tweet Sunday morning “spoke in absolute terms that were inconsistent with probabilities from the best forecast products available at the time.”…”

    https://apnews.com/b77db47e44954ee4b4ab948c3d898d8d

  5. “NOAA backs Trump on Alabama forecast, and rebukes Weather Service office that accurately contradicted him”

    Jason Samenow, Andrew Freedman and Matthew Cappucci, The Washington Post

    1. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-legacy-distorted-love/201105/the-narcissistic-family-tree

      It’s usually generational, so most likely, if one or both of your parents are/were a narcissist, then one or both of their parents (your grandparents) are/were narcissist, so on and so forth…

      Triangulation is the favorite game:

      Siblings Not Encouraged to Be Close.

      In healthy families, we encourage our children to be loving and close to each other. In narcissistic families, children are pitted against each other and taught competition. There is a constant comparison of who is doing better and who is not. Some are favored or seen as “the golden child,” and others become the scapegoat for a parent’s projected negative feelings. Siblings in narcissistic families rarely grow up feeling emotionally connected to each other.

  6. On his Fox News primetime show Thursday night, Sean Hannity chastised journalists — to whom he referred as “psychotic jackasses” — for reporting on Trump’s fumbled forecast.

    “Pretty much every newsroom in America screwed this up and lied to you by accusing the president of lying,” Hannity said. “But if you watch the media mob, you would think the president was lying.”

    And Karen wonders why I refer to this media outlet as “Faux News”, why I criticize Hannity and refer to people who faithfully watch this broadcast and repeat the slop it serves up as “disciples”. This is beyond politics or even reality. It has entered into the realm of mental illness. I cannot respect people who fall for this rhetoric and actually believe that media other than Faux News can’t be trusted.

    Yes, Trump WAS lying, and even others on that network have so stated. To make matters worse, he won’t let it go. Now, he’s trying to blame some Coast Guard Admiral for his blunder. The map the White House produced came from a local water district in Florida for its use, and it contained disclaimers saying that the official National Weather Service was the authority. And, the map was very preliminary and dated several days prior to the incorrect statement Trump made. There was NO risk to Alabama at the time Trump claimed it would get impacted. The map was likely dug up by some minion to provide something for Trump to rely on.

    1. Natacha says:

      Fox news is faux news.
      People who watch Hannity are “disciples”, mentally ill, and are not deserving of Natacha’s respect.

      My conclusions:

      Natacha watches the Hannity show.
      Natacha must thus be a “disciple”.
      Natacha must thus be mentally ill.
      Natacha must thus be not deserving of his/her/its own respect.

      Basically–Natacha is a hypocrite!

    2. You ought to read exactly what Trump said, quote the words and then state what those words mean. Then provide your complaint.

      Trump is not a weather forecaster but you aren’t any type of person one can believe.

  7. OT: NYTimes headline: ”
    BREAKING NEWS
    The U.S. economy added 130,000 jobs in August, a sign that the labor market is holding up despite the continuing trade war with China.”

    1. Job numbers were way lower than predicted, and the tariffs only began in earnest 5 days ago. Manufacturing and retail jobs are way lower. Let’s see what happens by January, when the trade war is in full force. Growth is clearly slowing.

      Meanwhile, Trump has raided the Pentagon’s budget to build the wall he promised repeatedly that Mexico would build. Children of service members in KY who attend schools with serious overcrowding issues and who were supposed to get a new school that Congress budgeted money for, won’t. I always thought the purpose of the military was to protect Americans. Well, if the goal of the wall is to protect Americans, why doesn’t the priority of supporting families of active duty military, which was chosen by Congress when it earmarked this money, prevail? Oh, I know. It’s an election year. Trump is way behind in the polls and has to come up with something, anything, to make him look like he made good on his promise to build a wall. He is stealing the taxpayers’ money they decided should go for military spending solely to bolster his ego. Mexico isn’t paying for the wall–the US military is.

      1. “Record 157,878,000 Employed in August; Record Low Unemployment Rate for Blacks

        By Susan Jones | September 6, 2019 | 8:44 AM EDT”

  8. Why not write a blog about the other fifteen wrong tracks put forward by the people who want to tell you what the weather will be 50 years from now? All you need to know about this is that Don Lemon of CNN thinks it is a major news story.

    1. We understand your embarrassment too TIA. Your cult leader is monopolizing national attention propping up his tiny ego while the country is still under Dorian.

      1. Anon, do you get special injections to keep you making dumb comments or is that the way you are built?

        Trump beat Hillary and you can’t accept that fact.

      1. Not even close to the 800 or so comments a while back. That may have been the volume record.
        Big surprize that Dr. Allan Blowhard played a big part in that marathon.

        1. While anonymous b itches and moans about comments there are more anonymous postings than from everyone else. Like the above posting anonymous never has anything of value to say. Ignorance is the hallmark of anonymous.

  9. It is impossible to exaggerate the irony of so many liberals commenting on Trump’s alleged mental illness while they have for almost 3 years showed us their TDS and various clusters of personality disorders. Perhaps I understate

    1. The main difference between a BPD and an nod, described to me by a friend, and professional in the field…

      Is the difference in levels

      NPD and BPD, overlap each other quite a bit, here are some key differences:

      NPD: toddler
      -like tantrum, fear of abandonment (in controlling/dominating way),
      Attention seeking spotlight behavior, rage at the literal word “no,” rage at other forms of actual or perceived rejection, usually a pulling back, premeditation before snapping, could be grandiose (overt) or vulnerable (covert), lacks empathy, entitled, exploits others

      BPD: infantile-like tantrum, screaming at mom/dad walking out of the room, impulsivity, suicidal ideation, fear of abandonment (in the true sense of “please don’t leave me”), rage at rejection stems from abandonment, also rage from actual or peeceived slights, but the rage is impulsive and psychotic, e.g., no thought process/premediation before acting out, has empathy (maybe too much), hyper sensitive to others emotions—can sense/feel them, paranoid/intrusive episodes if provoke/under enough stress

      BPD also crosses over with Bipolar 1 and 2 a lot, some are comorbid

      Most professionals believe in patterns, and use labels as short-hand to diagnose, but it’s the pattern in behavior that is important to correct treatment

      Some professional believe borderline personality disorder (BPD) is the Creation of/from narcissistic abuse (NPD).

      I’m just repeating what I was told…

      1. Oh yeah, forgot this

        NPD: fight or flight syndrome provoked by the ego, egocentric based thinking, the will to “win” by any means necessary

        The premeditation is like a snake, plotting, planning, and scheming the best way to get revenge, which is what they call “justice.”

        BPD: fight or flight syndrome provoked by the feelings of irrational abandonment, not about winning, but about reacting to strongly and intense that you show the other person yoire “serious” and mean “business.”

        No premeditation, just impulsive over the top reactions to others perceived lack of love.

          1. TIA laments the 160 comments on this “petty post”

            It appears you and Anon1 comprise at least 25% if not more of these. No doubt you and others will continue this ignominious trend

            This is the biggest travesty of our nation: the descent of the American psyche into the absurd, hence “This is Absurd”

            1. “…the people are nothing but a great beast…

              I have learned to hold popular opinion of no value.”

              – Alexander Hamilton
              ________________

              To vote in 1789, citizens must have been: Male, European, 21 with 50 lbs. Sterling or 50 acres.

              America was established to be a restricted vote republic, not a one man, one vote democrazy.

              The vote has been restricted in democracies since inception in Greece and Rome.
              ___________________________________________________________

              We gave you “…a republic, if you can keep it.”

              – Ben Franklin

    2. “Our greatest happiness does not depend on the condition of life in which chance has placed us, but is always the result of a good conscience, good health, occupation, and freedom in all just pursuits.”

      – Thomas Jefferson
      _______________

      This monster was created by the American Welfare State. Were they required to survive of their own devices, they would show the proper respect and deference and work hard.

  10. Very sick individual. Why are his family not sitting him down and talking to him about this very serious situation. Why are they not getting him the help he needs.? It’s something every family dies…TAKING ACTION…

    1. You must not be familiar with the Narcissist Family Cult…I’ve had the misfortune of knowing/living with 3 families with this issue, and everyone is scared/turns a blind eye.

      A lot of other members end up being narcs themselves, or having narc fleas, or even borderline traits.

      The statistic is 25 % of those with BPD also have traits of NPD, and vice versa…

      If you confront anyone, you will be scapegoated immediately by the entire family, including Flying Monkey, enablers, co-dependents, other narc abusers “if you can’t beat them, join them mentality.”

      You would be lucky to leave the family unit with only have C-PTSD when it’s all done….but it’s never done, bc the main ring leader will seek the destroy your life, collect information, sabotage you by any means necessary via use of the information against you later.

      That’s not including the major smear campaign that you saw coming from a mile away, bc the campaign starts early on, and you can see it, and hear it from the relatives, the lies that were spread about you…it starts as soon as you challenge the main Narc, disorder person…and this narc does not let go…

      E.g., you have the police at your door for a so-called missing person (3x for me), false report against you.

      This is from experience, unfortunately…and it’s sad when it’s family as a whole.

      What your talking about is a normal healthy family, and that’s not the case here.

      https://youtu.be/sWY05MadRJk

      https://youtu.be/Dd6RB61JgVU

      1. Anonymous – are you licensed to diagnosis patients long distance? Is this even your field of expertise?

        1. Paul – I am not diagnosing anyone..just talking, nothing more, nothing less.

          Where did you get that conclusion from?

          I specifically said somewhere..
          I was repeating what a friend of mine said, who is an expert in this field…M.D./Ph.D. to be exact.

          And then some videos of those in the field, compliments of YouTube.

        2. Mr. Schulte,
          There is only one known person on this blog with those kinds of credentials.
          Dr. Allan Blowhard.

          1. I may or may not have those credentials anonymous, but what I have said is true and what you have said is a lie. I think you said you were a teacher awhile back. We don’t know if that is true or not, though hopefully you are not involved in that profession, but we do know that you are a liar.

            1. Do you have any other devasting weapons in your medical bag, Dr. Blowhard?
              Besides “dumb”, “liar”, “stupid”, and “ignorant” as your debating staple, you’re now prescribing “shunning”.
              Hope you’re not neglecting your surviving patients in your waiting room straining your brain to think up brilliant diagnoses like “liar”, etc.
              You want to play that game, let’s play it, you fraud.

              1. Anonymous, you lied about what the expert said to show how smart you were. You proved you were dumb and a liar.

                1. I quoted the expert, DR. Keith Black.
                  There is a difference between quoting someone and “lying” about what they said.
                  You may not like what he said, but that does not make what he said, or quoting him, a lie.
                  Do you understand that, Dr. Blowhard?
                  You want to pick a fight by spewing out insults, you got it, you moron.

                  1. “There is a difference between quoting someone and “lying” about what they said.”

                    Yes, the quote was correct but you lied about the context, continued lying and refused to admit that your entire premise regarding Dr. Black was wrong. That was the most significant part of your argument. That makes you a liar. As soon as your lie was exposed none of your arguments held water.

                    1. There’s really no point point in trying to explain the meaning of the words of a top neurosurgeon who stayed that the medical care in the Richardson case seem appropriate.
                      You either “get that” or you don’t, or you decide not to get it and say it’s a lie to quote him. You are not only a moron and a blowhard, you are an unethical clown more interested in calling people dumb or stupid or liars or unhealthy.
                      Have you figured out yet that when you go down that road, two can play that game, Dr. Allan? I’d prefer not to, but when a fool like you keeps pushing it to the point and inviting insults in return, I can go that way too.
                      I won’t waste time trying to explain that to you, either.

                    2. “There’s really no point point in trying to explain the meaning of the words of a top neurosurgeon who stayed that the medical care in the Richardson case seem appropriate.”

                      You are lying again since that neurosurgeon was talking about the care regarding the first call. Natasha hadn’t even died when this interview took place and he didn’t know at the time if she was brain dead.

                      The entire question and answer is as follows:

                      “Did the fact that she delayed treatment for an hour put her at further risk?

                      Obviously, when it comes to treatment—the earlier, the better. If she had gotten a CT scan right away, doctors likely would have seen the bleed. From what I understand, however, she was examined by a medic, and she was doing fine. We don’t typically scan patients unless there has been a more significant type of trauma. It sounds like everything was managed appropriately and this was one of these rare catastrophic events. Even for patients that do have delayed bleeds, most of them tend to do very well, particularly younger patients. They normally don’t deteriorate that fast, and one has time to stabilize the situation, control the swelling and operate to relieve the blood clot if necessary.”

                      Even in the face of the truth anonymous cannot stop lying. All should recognize anonymous to be a liar.

        3. Paul, anonymous was recently proven to be a liar. He quoted someone and intentionally used that quote out of context. Anonymous should be shunned.

            1. Yes anonymous to be proven a liar (and stupid as well) is strong medicine, but the medicine will never work. You will remain stupid and therefore lie in order to try to win an argument.

              1. Ooh, double ouch. Not the ‘ ol liar and stupid bit again.
                I see that you recently added “not healthy” as well, you moron.

                1. Anonymous, I see that you have finally recognized that your arguments don’t hold water so now your replies are just the dumb entries of a liar.

                    1. Tell us what those things are anonymous. If you can’ you are lying. If you can we have to look at those things and see if they are lies as well.

                    2. “left the patient without treatment for 4 hours without treatment.”
                      Either Dr. Blowhard have the medical records from the paramedics, the hospital where she was first taken, the specialist I had mentioned earlier…….or, he imagines that she was stuffed in the corner of the ER and nothing was done for her.
                      That is one of the things that Dr. Blowhard “sees” as having transpired, perhaps through a gift of psychic vision.
                      If only they’d consulted with Dr. Blowhard, he would have advised them to ignore all established procedures and kled her outright rather than have her linger for about 2 days, when life support was removed.

                    3. “Either Dr. Blowhard have the medical records from the paramedics, the hospital where she was first taken, the specialist I had mentioned earlier…….or, he imagines that she was stuffed in the corner of the ER and nothing was done for her.”

                      Dr. Death, it is true that she might have had her nails done while the pressure bulit up in her head. While she might have looked prettier nothing stopped the pressure from building in her head which eventually led to her demise. Instead of getting her nails donce at a hospital that couldn’t relieve the pressure they should have skipped the nails and taken her to a place that could save her life and I’ll bet there was one closer than the trauma hospital she ended up at.

                      Stabilization for her was possibly steroids but certainly a burr hole. Dr Death prefers to provide manicures.

                    4. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6250545/
                      The linked report on electrolyte imbalance following an injury like Richardson’s.That is one aspect of stabilization, an area that Dr. Blowhard has ignored . There is a set of pre-surgery requirements that, with rare exceptions, must be met. Dr. Blowhard’s “no treatment for 4 hours” comment is nuts.

                    5. Dr. Death seems to believe in doing everything in sequence while a patient dies instead of doing what is necessary when it is necessary. A large amount of time was consumed getting the patient into the hospital that couldn’t do the procedure. They had to transfer the patient all over. They had to draw blood, wait for the blood tests to be returned and then provide the needed IV’s. Time, time and more time.

                      Then they had to check the patient out and put the patient in the Ambulance and get back on the road after this detour to have the life saving. sd treatment. I think this consumed about three hours of time.

                      The alternative is to find the closest hospital that can do the procedure and get everyone on board so that when the ambulance comes in all of this can be done on the way to the OR and the surgeon can determine when the appropriate time is to start. Only one time off the ambulance and no need to get in again.

                      That is too complicated for Dr. Death. He would rather follow a procedure that doesn’t work and involves a lot of extra time before definitive treatment. After all, what is Dr death known for? Dead patients that he gets by delaying treatment.

                    6. Can your comments get any dumber, Dr. Blowhard? Getting her nails done in the ER? Ate you really that friggin’ stupid?!?

                    7. “Getting her nails done in the ER? ”

                      Can’t help it if you think getting one’s nails done is more important than treating the problem killing the patient. You are not terribly bright.

                    1. Allan’s a complete idiot and a nutter, to boot.

                      His parents must have called him a liar, stupid, etc.

                    2. “Allan is an embarrassment to himself and others”.
                      Wrong! Allan is the most brilliant one who comments here, who knows all things about any given subject. Don’ t take my word for it. Just ask Allan and he’ll tell you himself.

                    3. “Allan is the most brilliant one… ”

                      Anonymous, I hate to tell you but most intelligent people have about the same amount of knowledge I have but you wouldn’t know that. You don’t fall into the class of intelligent people. Stupidity rules your world. You are unable to read, research or report. When you do quote and the quote is real it isn’t in context and you use it as a lie. That is why you remain stupid. You don’t learn from your mistakes. You will remain stupid till your last days. The only problem is that according to a previous statement of yours you are a teacher and that means a lot of students are getting the short end of the stick.

                      Since I provided the entire quote that you relied on from post after post which was a lie I note that all your posts are ad hominems. The other anonymous known as Diane is very lonely and a piece of undesireable work. It looks like the two of you were made for each other.

                    4. Dr. Allan Blowhard, also known as the creepy man-child, is at it again, assuming facts not in evidence and exhibiting diarrhea of the mouth.

                    5. “Currently however, a CT scan should always be performed, especially if a non-neurosurgeon is contemplating performing the procedure.”

                      Emergency burr holes: “How to do it”

                      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3352313/

                      Excerpt:

                      Indication

                      Patient with reduced GCS ( 8

                      • No Imaging*

                      • Neurosurgical intervention available in a reasonable time frame.

                      * Very high clinical suspicion (e.g. a palpable fracture with an ipsilateral fixed pupil), in an area remote from CT imaging may be an exception to this. In the future devices such as the Infrascanner™ (a handheld portable device designed to detect extra-axial haematoma using near infra-red light) may lessen the need for formal CT imaging in the emergency setting. Currently however, a CT scan should always be performed, especially if a non-neurosurgeon is contemplating performing the procedure.

                      Now go do what you do best, Allan: Go blow.

                    6. Anonymous, you better learn how to read. ” Very high clinical suspicion (e.g. a palpable fracture with an ipsilateral fixed pupil), in an area remote from CT imaging may be an exception to this.”

                      What that is saying is that once the person has reached GCS 8 it’s time to save the life. If there is time to get the CT scan get it. If there isn’t time drill. That means that as the GCS is dropping you don’t stop for a CT scan in a place that has no facility to do the procedure. Call and find the closest hospital available with the facilities and take the patient there. If there is time for the CT do it but that is decided on the spot and almost all of the times the CT will be done if available.

                      These things were not done and left the patient without treatment for almost 4 hours during which time she ended up brain dead. That is your way of doing things Dr. Death.

                      Dr. Death the whole idea in treatment is to keep the patient alive with a minimum of morbidity. You like checkmarks so Dr. Death gets a CT scan and doesn’t concern himself about the next 4 hours or whether or not the patient lives.

                      Dr. Deaths methods would lead to a lot of deaths in various catastrophic conditions where Dr Death get’s his completion checkmarks while killing the patient.

                    7. I certainly wouldn’t categorize Allan as a “Sharpie.”

                      Correction:

                      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3352313/

                      Indication

                      Patient with reduced GCS ( 8

                      • No Imaging*

                      • Neurosurgical intervention available in a reasonable time frame.

                      * Very high clinical suspicion (e.g. a palpable fracture with an ipsilateral fixed pupil), in an area remote from CT imaging may be an exception to this. In the future devices such as the Infrascanner™ (a handheld portable device designed to detect extra-axial haematoma using near infra-red light) may lessen the need for formal CT imaging in the emergency setting. Currently however, a CT scan should always be performed, especially if a non-neurosurgeon is contemplating performing the procedure.

                    8. Anonymous AKA Dr. Death you seem very repetitive.I’ve already answered this one and we all know that you want to make sure you get all the checkmarks even if that means the patient dies. Take note that at GCS 8 it’s critical but you are willing to take a patient to a hospital that doesn’t have the facilities to do the procedure and wait 4 hours until the patient is brain dead or dead.

                      That is why you are known as Dr Death. You hate it when things are sped up so the patient can live.

        4. Haha. Rich. As if it takes any talent other than rational, objective observation to identify the many, many, mental, ethical, moral, patriotic, and intellectual deficiencies of the day glo bozo. So sorry for your loss.

          this is to “what is that ticking sound?” paulie – georgie

          1. Marky Mark Mark – How did that Mueller Report work out for you? Sucked to be you, didn’t it?

    2. Guinness – CNN put Alabama in Mississippi. Who is sitting those people down and talking to them.

      1. I’m sure CNN will double down on that. That’s what your supposed to do, right Paul?

        1. Anon1 – CNN is known for doubling down, so I do not know what they will do next.

  11. Any cone that includes Pensacola or Santa Rosa Island will at least graze Gulf Shores, AL.

    1. David B. Benson – the NYT is sooooo twisted that they devoted two articles to Sharpiegate? God, how far will they fall?

      1. One on Thursday; one in Friday’s paper.

        “All the news that’s fit to print”

      2. Paul, we understand this “issue” is embarrassing for you Trumpsters, but his continued self immolation is news. Maybe you should read the NYTs articles on Lil Kim.s snookering of Trump by developing new missiles with his blessing while Japan is freaking out, or the one on the money being taken from military projects in states like Arizona for the wall you guys thought Mexico was paying for.

  12. Lmao…Yes, Yes….Trump’s finest moment in office. I’m go glad he did this, and exposed just how deep his psychosis really is…poor guy….

    ….the man needs therapy, probably needs to have some sessions about Fred Trump, maybe that will get to the bottom of it.

    1. Most healthy, I won’t say stable, but healthy ppl, would make an error, admit the error, be embarrassed about it, make the correction statement, and move on…

      But in corporate politics, Trump is all to familiar with, DOUBLE-DOWN on the “I am and was always right,” bandwagon….which will get you way more points, and possibly a promotion, as a strong, confident leader than ever admiting a level of guilt or fault…

      He is the product of his own upbringing and his own businesses…

      1. ” but healthy ppl, would make an error, admit the error, be embarrassed about it, make the correction statement, and move on…”

        Anonymous, you have just explained in a perfectly reasonable fashion why YOU are not healthy. Just listen to your discussions trying to show how right you are when you missed the target by a mile.

        Trump made a statement based on true reports. It didn’t agree with the NHC but he wasn’t trying to predict the weather. He was busy telling people to stay safe.

        1. “you are not healthy”.
          To the other anonymous,
          I’d get a second opinion before accepting Dr. Blowhard’s diagnosis.

          1. Anonymous, I am healthy and will be healthy tomorrow. You are a liar and will be a liar tomorrow.

            1. If only Allan had the ability to see himself the way that others see him — which is decidedly NOT healthy, among other things.

              1. Diane, I don’t worry about people of your type. I let you swim in the sewer where you belong. You might not know it but that is because you aren’t very bright.

                  1. Really? I’m happy and you are angry with a scowl on your face that has caused lines making you look very old and unattractive. You can’t find a human so go to the pet store and find a best buddy. Make sure that buddy is deaf, dumb and blind.

                    1. You’re clearly describing yourself and your own life, buddy. It’s too bad that you’re such an idiot, Allan.

                    2. “You’re clearly describing yourself ”

                      Diane, you wish that was true. You are lonely and unappealing. Just look at how you sound on the blog.

                      Many lower class Americans are earning more money and are happy about that. You are lower class too but probably aren’t earning more. That is because you are so angry and people want to run away from you. Smile and maybe even a Gerbil will look kindly at you.

  13. Trump was not lying, to wit:

    “Oh quit it, media hacks.

    I know, I know, you think Trump was “making things up” when he included Alabama as a potential impact for Dorian.

    He wasn’t.

    Early on (when in the Antilles and near Puerto Rico) the storm had multiple track solutions that potentially put it into the gulf. I was watching it very carefully and, in the thread in The Bar on The Ticker (accessible to those who used to be donors) there were people asking if I was concerned about the storm hitting me — and I live about 60 miles, more or less, from Alabama as the crow flies.

    There was one solution taking the storm over Florida, exiting into the Gulf near Tampa and potentially coming further west, even possibly as far west as New Orleans. There was a second that took it south of Lake Okoeechobee or even through Miami and into the Gulf. I didn’t believe either was going to verify but the hurricane center did put forward a long-range cone that included such potential areas in their impact — but terminated, as they always do, on Day 5 before the Gulf was actually in play although it showed the storm headed due west at that time and in the Florida Peninsula.

    So yes, Trump was right when said Alabama was potentially in play.

    https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=236759

    Squeeky Fromm
    Girl Reporter

    PS: I seen that one with my own eyes, too.

    1. Are you out on work release now? I’m wondering since we haven’t been graced by your stupidity in many months.

      1. No, I successfully completed my ATAWR program (Addiction To Arguing With Retards), and am back and able to handle dealing with people like you without it overshadowing the good things in life!

        Squeeky Fromm
        Girl Reporter

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