The resignation of four prosecutors in the prosecution of Trump confidant Roger Stone has set off alarms throughout Washington. Main Justice today countermanded the prosecutors in the D.C. United States Attorneys office in declaring that their demand for seven to nine years imprisonment as excessive. That alone would be serious. However, once again, President Donald Trump’s decision to publicly denounce the recommendation (shortly before the intervention of Main Justice) has raised legitimate concerns over pressure from the White House in favor of a close confidant of the President. It has also magnified the criticism of Attorney General Bill Barr and suggestions that he intervened due to Trump’s criticism. The four prosecutors who had worked on the trial, Aaron S.J. Zelinsky, Jonathan Kravis, Adam Jed and Mike Marando, filed a motion to withdraw from the case. Trump himself denies asking for a reduction in the proposed sentencing, though that is hardly necessary when you are publicly contradicting your own Justice Department. While I have long been highly critical of the Stone prosecution (and specifically critical of this clearly excessive recommended sentence), there are valid concerns raised by this series of events.
It is hard to see the extraordinary resignation of four prosecutors as anything other than a protest. Unless they were ordered to resign for insubordination, such a protest would likely reflect a confrontation over the exercise of their prosecutorial decision. However, it is not uncommon for Main Justice to intervene in major cases on strategy or sentencing recommendations. The rift would have to reflect a view that the reduction of the recommendation was unjustified or untoward in some way.
As a long-time critic of aspects of the Stone prosecution and its excessive charges (and later excessive sentencing recommendation), I agree with the decision to make a change in the case. That, however, does not mean that I do not have great reservations about how this unfolded. It is exceptionally rare for a sentencing memorandum to be withdrawn. It could reflect a couple of possible scenarios.
First, the prosecutors may have filed without approval and in conflict with the views of Main Justice. That would be an act of insubordination if Main Justice had not signed off on the recommendation or ordered a different recommendation. These prosecutors are subject to the decisions of the Justice Department on policy and strategy.
Second, Main Justice may have demanded a change after the recommendation that the prosecutors may have viewed as political interference from the White House. The prosecutors could argue that they set the recommendation at the high end, but still within, the sentencing guidelines. That would, of course, be equally serious and concerning.
Many of us felt the recommendation was wildly out of proportion to the underlying crimes of false statements and tampering alleged in the seven charges. While Main Justice normally yields to the local prosecutors, it is also a prosecutorial office with its own role in the exercise of prosecutorial discretion.
The Justice Department told the Court that, while prison was warranted, “far less” time was warranted than previously recommended:
“While it remains the position of the United States that a sentence of incarceration is warranted here, the government respectfully submits that the range of 87 to 108 months presented as the applicable advisory Guidelines range would not be appropriate or serve the interests of justice in this case.”
There are some stories that are making sweeping assumptions about these events, which are not fully understood. This could be a serious compromising of the Justice Department, but could also be a good-faith disagreement between prosecutors at the U.S. Attorney’s office and Main Justice. The U.S. Attorney’s Manual expressly states the right of Main Justice and specifically the Criminal Division to intervene in cases:
Department of Justice and Criminal Division policies impose limitations on the authority of the United States Attorney to decline prosecution, to prosecute, and to take certain actions relating to the prosecution of criminal cases. These policy limitations are discussed throughout the Justice Manual, with a centralized listing contained in 9-2.400.
With regard to policy limitations, if in the opinion of the United States Attorney the exigencies of the situation prevent compliance with a policy, he/she shall take the action deemed appropriate. He/she shall promptly report to the Criminal Division the deviation from policy, or if the policy is established by a higher authority, report to that authority and be guided by the instructions furnished him/her. A written report of the deviation should be promptly made. Approval of the action of the United States Attorney or his/her taking action as instructed shall be deemed, for all purposes, to be compliance with the policy. Among the purposes of this language is to ensure that criminals do not escape prosecution by inaction on the part of a United States Attorney immobilized by policy; to require a report of deviation from policy in order that the policy may be evaluated; and to express confidence in the judgment, and to reaffirm the authority, of the United States Attorney in such a situation.
If the United States Attorney discovers that a policy of the Division or of a higher authority has not been followed because of inadvertence, he/she shall promptly notify the Division or higher authority of the deviation from policy by the most expeditious means and subsequently in writing. He/she shall be guided by the instructions furnished him/her. Approval of the action of the United States Attorney, or his/her taking action as instructed shall be deemed, for all purposes, to be compliance with the policy.
In the instances when the United States Attorney is directed to consult with the Division prior to taking an action, such consultation will typically be by an Assistant United States Attorney with an attorney of the section assigned responsibility for the statute or matter involved. If there is a disagreement at this level, the matter should be resolved by appropriate higher authority before the disputed action is taken.
This authority is repeated in another provision, 9-2.131 which states:
If primary prosecutorial responsibility for a matter has been assumed by the Criminal Division or higher authority, the United States Attorney shall consult with the persons having primary responsibility before conducting grand jury proceedings, seeking indictment, or filing an information.
Thus, it is not improper as a general rule to have Main Justice intervene in a case or countermand local prosecutors. The sole question is the impetus for the change. If the Criminal Division objected on the same grounds that many of us have been raising, it would not be improper. If the White House objected, the move to override the local prosecutors would be a serious breach of prosecutorial integrity and independence. Given the President’s public statement, we cannot rule out the latter and assume the former. That is why Barr needs to make this normally confidential process much more transparent.
For 3 years the vile, previous administration has extended their claws to smear and destroy all conservatives. We know how absurd the charges were given the fact that the entire investigation into collusion was predicated on Democrat disinformation sourced through a foreign national and then utilized to ILLEGALLY get wiretaps. The Mueller team KNEW this and should have halted their intimidation efforts within the first few months of the investigatoion but they allowed thei fake/ false/purchased Democrat scheme to be used to entrap people like Flynn and Stone for non-crimes. The charges were ABSURD. There is no defending absurdity so please don’t equivocate- it was time that Barr took action. Democrats campaigns of destruction can’t be legitimaized by perverse attempts to validate what we all know was a travesty.
Isn’t there a third possibility? The White House objected for the same reason as you, Professor Turley.
The President, AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, has the responsibility to supervise the DOJ. The DOJ is NOT KING!
If it takes the President to get the filthy DOJ prosecutors back in line, SO WHAT! Any fool can see the prosecutors should be in jail for attempting to suborn perjury!
It’s amazing how many people pee their pants when Trump speaks. Even the great Jonathan Turkey.
What is amazing is how when Trump pisses on the rule of law and the separation of powers and then says he has the right, Trump supporters jump and down yelling USA, USA…USA
our unity is impressive indeed
even though he hasnt actually done that. yet.
The President is the supervisor of the DOJ. Duh!
AG Barr has every right, as well as a responsibility, to yank a sentencing recommendation that is excessive, vindictive, and manifestly at odds with the interests of justice. If the petulant prosecutors want to quit over it, who cares? The DOJ is better off without them. They can get jobs as hack political commentators on MSNBC, lol. Likewise, President Trump has the right to call out an abuse of discretion by federal prosecutors. He has made criminal justice reform part of his platform, and curbing abusive sentencing is an essential element of that effort.
I agree.
This has become a trend, punitive and selective sentences like this. It brings to mind Dinesh D’Souza. The type of campaign finance rule he broke has resulted in either no punishment, or a fine, for everyone else. Rosie O’Donnell used 5 different spellings of her name to break the same law, but nothing happened. Dinesh got jail time. That’s not justice. It’s an attempt to silence critics.
If the Administration were to be gagged from remarking on this, then it interferes with communicating to the American public that this is going on.
they’ll all trundle off the impressive salaries in BIGLAW defending white collar crimes.
Some of them are hoping for a judicial appointment next time a Democrat wins the POTUS, too
Career track stuff folks. Don’t cry over these big shots they will all have new BMWs by summertime
Mespo/ et AL:
We are all being over ran by invaders.
Google is putting something like 650,000,000 million $$$ in Eastern Oklahoma, Pryor…
It’s already a bit of a socialist stronghold in OK & they’ll likely import more commie types from the W coast. Attempting to turn us Commie/Nazi Dem Blue. The same with Texas.. Apple Corp 1.4 bil, etc..
Chatting about 3 yrs back with a local pro he’s pointing out now the voters are becoming almost irrelevant. That billionaires are becoming more powerful then govt’s, even the US govt.
That brings me to news recently I see out of the state of Tennessee.
The state was working on a bill to not allow these transgender nuts to participate in girls sports. I think, rightfully rejecting more Judicial Supremacy type BS, Title IX.
The governor came out against it & I think a 150 large corporations sign a letter threatening the state with a loss of biz if they did pass that bill in the state.
One of those Corps was Nike, hell I’ve been boycotting them for years now because of the Chicom slave products.
Anyway I think all of our still normal states/people need to just throw the boycotts back on them.
It makes no sense to me/others to surrender to those types.
Oky:
The problem the Left has is that socialism always, always fails. People see that and come around to fix it. As for the trannys, that’s more a social issue. A little ol’ fashioned boycotting of high school games, school events and refusal to volunteer usually gets that job done. Plus there’s always home schooling and private high school sports clubs. There’s always a work-around for the foolishness of the Left. They just never see it.
I’m starting to think I’m part Amish.
Saying no to mandatory vaccines, supporting home schools, supporting a Christian type religion.
I used to make fun of home schooled kids. The stuff I’m seeing is they a better educated.
OT:
With all life’s troubles they throw at us, watching, listening to President Trump, I’m inspired!
He’s the greatest one I’ve ever seen, at since I’ve been alive. Hardcore badass, pure Americana.
If anyone isn’t inspired now I think they may be blind & deaf.
Many of us believe Carpe Donktum is another of the very talented people of our generations.
The below video is about 2:20 min. When any have time Crank it up, get inspired again. Go fix something.
https://www.memeworld.com/meme/behind-blue-lies/
I never met so many homeschool families in my life until I moved to this area. They got sick of the public school failings. Of the homeschool kids I know, one is a concert violinist and robotics expert, many took college classes while still in high school, one is a novelist who is still a teenager, two are sports phenoms one of them nationally recognized… I do a combination.
I have an only child, and there are no other kids in my immediate vicinity. We live in the country so there aren’t a lot of houses around, anyway. I send him to school so he gets to have the experience of going to classes. But I am the one who taught him how to read. Since Common Core is awful, I also teach him how to do math. The school has not done a great job teaching grammar, so I teach him grammar too. The school didn’t teach cursive so I had to teach him that, too. There are great catalogs of homeschool resources that I use to supplement his education. It’s not fair, really, that he has to spend so many hours in school, bored, and then I have to fill in the gaps that the public school misses. Our local schools do not have good test scores, so a lot of time in class is spent trying to help the other kids catch up. My son is really bored in school. For some reason, they don’t have an honor roll or recognize any academic achievement. They give out awards for great attitude, kindness, or other subjective feel good awards. My kid gets his quarterly reading tests knocked out right away, gets great grades, passes the CAASPP states tests and exceeds his goals. But none of that academic achievement is recognized at the school, because academics is not what public school appears to be about anymore. He was recently benched because he was playing finger gun games with his friend. No tag allowed, either, because that would involve running. He’s such a good kid, his teachers all like him. But I feel like all he’s getting out of school is a couple of too short recesses where he can play with others and make new friends. There is no academic advantage at all to going to the local public school over homeschooling. I miss our charter school but it was not renewed.
I know a lot of Amish, Mennonites, and those who left their religious communities. I don’t think you’re ready to go full Amish yet unless you’re ready to give up zippers and driving cars. But I know a lot of ex-Amish who are still very conservative Christians, thriving.
No Zippers! Really? to heck that. lol;)
I didn’t know.
I had a post almost ready to post to you but my browser crashed. I’ve got most of it hand written & will retype in a bit.
I should re-read your post but I can tell you a 110% you have what could be a major problem that is likely to develop.
” My son is really bored in school. ”
Like I’ve mentioned, I’ve got German shepherds, they are normally well behaved, right up until they get bored, then bad things can happen, so we keep a close eye & intention on them.
My personal experience with public schools, my guy friends & I were bored out of our minds. 5th/6th/ etc…, We knew we were just batter up for one of the groups headed to Vietnam/ next for a nice local funeral, so we just didn’t give a crap & went to playing around, causing ourselves trouble.
Those damned public schools are a major cause of trouble for young males.
Looking back & with the knowledge of internet info we have today I would have BS’d my azz right out of that local school, with/without my parents permission. That was those days, they’ve better security against kids escaping their school prison. LOL:) The school down the street here used the same blue print for the building as some of the states prisons use!
You could pay to find out what your kid is interested in & then bust him out of that public school program. Maybe a local ROTC would test him for free?
Like get the kid in a college class he’s interested in & he’d be around mature people that are also interested in the same.
It’ll show them there is a different world then that Public system world.
This guy below actually did just move himself ahead when he was young. I think you could just Email him. I think he might answer any questions you have.
America has just been wasting so much of young American’s energy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiva_Ayyadurai
The fight against biological males competing in women’s sports needs to be phrased in the time honored Democrat tradition – war on women. They do so love to couch all issues that affect women in those terms.
It is not fair to women to allow biological males to compete in their sports division. It is unscientific to claim that gender differences are a state of mind, and that a biological male has no unfair advantage over biological female athletes. They are confusing performative behavior with biology. When RuPaul is in drag, I’ll refer to him as a her, because that is the character that he is playing. It’s performative. But I still know he’s a man.
The prosecutors recommended the federal guideline sentence,nothing more or less, and with a non cooperative defendant, the rule. The judge would understand all this and not be compelled to follow those guidelines. There is nothing to see there .
The interference of Main Justice after the fact is highly irregular if not unprecedented, an embarrassing and deflating act which damages the Department and, given the President’s interference on behalf of a campaign member, damaging to the nation. Main Justice would only do this because of the president, and it stinks.
With Trump advocacy of turning our justice system against political opponents, and now a member of the military who responded to a legal subpoena – or a “rat” as the President and other Goodfellas would call him – and a willing bureaucracy and politics hacks like Lindsey Graham, a dangerous course which must be resisted. The GOP is out, who’s in?
Main Justice would only do this because of the president, and it stinks.”
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Yeah why should they do what the boss wants? They have radical Marxists to appease!
You’re cute when you’re mad.
“The prosecutors recommended the federal guideline sentence,nothing more or less, and with a non cooperative defendant, the rule”
translation, half off your time if you just agree to whatever the persecutors want and throw away all your rights
and they will pile onto you for sure if you go to trial
that’s par for the course for anybody!
and you can be sure Stone got lots of extra attention in building the government sentencing request
fed prosecutors are perennial advocates for the absolute maximum whenever they get a political case
“Second, Main Justice may have demanded a change after the recommendation that the prosecutors may have viewed as political interference from the White House. The prosecutors could argue that they set the recommendation at the high end, but still within, the sentencing guidelines. That would, of course, be equally serious and concerning.”
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There is nothing in the founding documents (Us Const. or Judiciary Act of 1789) that makes the DOJ separate and apart from the Executive Branch. They think they are an independent agency but it’s vanity pure and simple. Trump can initiate, pause, delay, change and/or curtail any investigation of the DOJ he pleases. He can fire the AG, bring subordinates in for talks and generally run the Department. If you don’t like it, there’s “the first Tuesday after November 1” every four years to change the head of the Executive Branch.
And let’s say the prosecutors willfully pushed an overly harsh sentence in order to force Barr to “intervene” thus painting him as a political actor? Barr needs to sit back and allow that?
After seeing Mueller-Russia opened on false pretense and various forms of FISA fraud, we can no longer assume anyone is acting in good faith.
Remember that J T testified thatBarr was fit to be Trumps Roy Cohn He is the Carl Schmidt of his time The difference here is that Schmidt was brilliant Barr is not Both however are fascists History will not be kind to you Mr Turley
Duke:
“Remember that J T testified that Barr was fit to be Trumps Roy Cohn He is the Carl Schmidt of his time The difference here is that Schmidt was brilliant Barr is not Both however are fascists History will not be kind to you Mr Turley.”
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Carl Schmidt was the guy who ran the High’s Ice Cream store in my hometown. I’m pretty sure he didn’t know Roy Cohn but he did sell butter pecan waffle cones to my best friend, Roy. Roy was anything but a con. That said, to compare JT with some dead Nazi jurist from 80 years ago (It’s Schmitt, btw, as in “Mitt”) makes about as much sense as me mistaking your reference to old scoop ’em up, Carl.
BTW history isn’t kind to anyone; it just chronicles winners and losers.
as the resident promoter of the thinking of the great Carl Schmitt, I am pleased to inform you Mr Duke that you misspelled his name.
Also, although he was literally a member of the NSDAP, “Fascist” does not really describe his political theory. Usually he is called a Catholic jurist and a critic of liberalism.
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/schmitt/
Of course fascist like many epithets has come to mean whatever someone wants it to when they hurl the insult. So, it’s close to useless for accurate descriptions.
Also, Turley is a staunch liberal. He is not even close to Carl Schmitt. However I appreciate you mentioning the name Mr Duke because i feel Prof Turley would profit from a close study of his political theories. I recommend “the Crisis of Parliamentary Democracy” which does describe where we have now come.
Mr Schmitt was an unabashed Nazi supporter He was not a war criminal at Nuremberg I did not even try to state that Mr Turkey was an adherent ot Schmitt There is no doubt that he was brilliant Mr Turkey is a scholar At times ke is a statist and other libertarian A stopped watch is correct twice a day So is Mr Turkey Instead I linked Schmitt to Barr who is a toady to Trump and Barr is far from brilliant
Mr. Stone, you are too funny. First, you are highly critical of the Stone prosecution and now you are not. Lol!
Again, all of your advocacy is in favor of discretion by officers of the court, even those who are demonstrably engaged in dishonest lawfare games. You’re not on the side of justice.
This is not about Roger stone… this is the deep state want to get Barr …. they want Barr gone and get the president out because they hate him
“Many of us felt the recommendation was wildly out of proportion to the underlying crimes of false statements and tampering alleged in the seven charges.”
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When you lie to your bosses about your plans, further an ideological agenda ’cause you got frustrated by the failure of the Russia hoax you pushed and try to put a 67-year-old guy in prison for life for a process crime of lying to liars who is more clown than thug, you really ought to resign. You ought to do it in a seedy motel room with a bottle of cheap bourbon and a revolver.
Dear Mark Esposito and Jonathan Turkey
The crimes were not “alleged” Stone was found guilty after a trial of his peers on all counts.
The recommendation by prosecutors of 7 to 9 years is well within the sentencing guidelines which could be up to 50 years.
Anonymous:
“The crimes were not “alleged” Stone was found guilty after a trial of his peers on all counts.
The recommendation by prosecutors of 7 to 9 years is well within the sentencing guidelines which could be up to 50 years.”
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You’ve got a firm grasp on the obvious, there. Sentencing presupposes conviction unless you’re a liberal where the reverse is true for your opponents. But I digress.
The problem is the boss didn’t approve the recommendation. So as kosher as the recommendation may be, the rabbi didn’t sign-off. Welcome to the hierarchy where irrelevancies are treated as such.
My guess is Judge ABJ sticks him ’cause she’s personally offended by Stone’s buffoonishness precipitating a pardon or commutation of sentence.
I agree with your prediction. The judge will depart upwards from whatever the G recommends and throw the book at him. Then I would be a commutation, over a pardon. I don’t see a pardon in the cards. Commutation at best. After his appeals run their course and get shot down for whatever excuse. Maybe end of second term.
Promoting Trump was hard on Roger, he’s due for a vacation. A couple or three years in the minsec federal camps will be easy time for him. He’s going to get plenty of chance to update his fitness regime which was always quite good, but I think it slipped when he was under the stress of all this.
Roger’s commissary will be well funded and he will have plenty of visitors. He will be welcomed by the woodpile and given brotherly guidance and protection by the inmates.
Not funny Mr K!
All those cases, Stone/Fylnn/Manaport/Etc., should have already been thrown out w/prejudice, for cause. (Did I phrase that correctly, I think so)
The US Govt owes the money big time.
That nice lady judge I think may have a problem now because she fast becoming a co-conspirator in the ongoing coup.
The key info is already released & in the public of the fraud.
Oh I know, custom is the judiciary is to be held harmless for their offences/crimes against the public.
That is right up until there’s sociality norms change.
Is that time now? It could be.
But you are correct at that has been what has been happening.
Well see.
If Stone deserves prison time for lying to Congress, James Clapper should be his cellmate.
UnWoke – I second that motion.
If we locked them all up we would be 100%, but pretty close. LOL;)
The important thing to remember is that a President is technically “in-the-loop” on each and every Federal prosecution because he has the power to pardon the perp. And that pardon can take place at any point during the process. So the statement, ” If the White House objected, the move to override the local prosecutors would be a serious breach of prosecutorial integrity and independence” is hogwash. Trump would not have to wait until Stone is chained to a dungeon wall somewhere.
But here, I think the Democrats are simply playing their silly games and trying to make something out of nothing.
Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter
While the reason for the lesser sentence may not be clear, it is clear that the prosecutors who resigned, were totally out of the realm of justice, with their insistence that the sentence be so punitive as to be unfair and unjust. The possibility for all four resignations that was not discussed, was that the four resignations was a political move, designed to harm AG Barr and President Trump. After all, Stone was a friend of the president, and as such they seem to have felt compelled to ask the court for a sentence that was too excessive for the crimes committed.
According to Sean Davis of The Federalist, the four prosecutors were caught lying. https://thefederalist.com/2020/02/11/mueller-prosecutors-may-have-lied-to-doj-about-stone-prison-sentence-recommendation/
Gosh, now that you mention it, I do recall seeing this in all those stories by ABC/CBS/NBC/CNN et. al. I don’t know how it could’ve slipped my mind. Oh wait, that never happened. Neither will any followup stories happen now that the TRUMP BARR WARGARBLE headlines have already done their job.
It seems a very long pattern:
1) Blare a wildly accusatory headline on page 1 above the fold
2) Bury the lede in the next-to-last paragraph that it “may” not be as bad as suggested (to provide editorial cover)
3) Never, or very rarely, slip a followup article on page C-6 that refutes the origial headline, now that more facts have become known
4) Wonder why the public has such low confidence in the media
5) ???
6) Profit!
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/02/12/unfortunately-a-corrupt-group-of-politically-focused-doj-lawyers-isnt-the-only-issue/
As usual, JT’s view is from on high and presupposes an honorable, decent world peopled with honorable, decent people in all levels of government.
That world does not exist. There is a form of trench warfare (“lawfare”) ongoing in DC in which one side has gravely abused the system to attempt a coup, and the other side has mainly only been playing defense. They are now about to play some offense but they will stay much more within the the letter and spirit of the constitution than has been the case on the other side.
But as long as JT insists on viewing both sides as equally worthy and equally suspect, he will remain overly lofty. Admirable, but increasingly irrelevant. Again, this is now open warfare. Dainty peacetime niceties are appropriate only in a fantasy world – including a fantasy Republic – which no longer exists.
“As usual, JT’s view is from on high and presupposes an honorable, decent world peopled with honorable, decent people in all levels of government.
That world does not exist.”
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No it’s around. It just takes good men to enforce it. We’re short of good men (and women but men rarely listen to women) these days but I’m seeing a come-back.
You said, “But as long as JT insists on viewing both sides as equally worthy and equally suspect, he will remain overly lofty. Admirable, but increasingly irrelevant. Again, this is now open warfare. Dainty peacetime niceties are appropriate only in a fantasy world – including a fantasy Republic – which no longer exists.”
I wish I had said that! I think Professor Turley is like somebody who had been wrestling in college and the Olympics, and he is now entering the WWF ring, where the name of the game is winning the belt. He decries the fact that Killer Khan just pulled his pants down, while his (KK’s) girlfriend is whacking him over the head with a folding metal chair.
“But wait!” he cries! “Those moves are highly suspect, and while I know that we all share the common desire of winning the match, this sort of behavior is tres gauche!” Killer Khan’s response is to pull the brass knuckles from his trunks and then whomp him straight in the face.
That is where the country is. Schumer and Pelosi could care less about the good of the country, or truth, or decency. They care about winning and staying in power and their whole rotten crew does too.
Realpolitik 2020.
Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter
Squeeky:
“I wish I had said that! I think Professor Turley is like somebody who had been wrestling in college and the Olympics, and he is now entering the WWF ring, where the name of the game is winning the belt. He decries the fact that Killer Khan just pulled his pants down, while his (KK’s) girlfriend is whacking him over the head with a folding metal chair.”
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It was Sen. Kamala not Killer Khan. But wait Sergeant Slaughter is coming to the rescue — with another FOLDING CHAIR!!
trench warfare stalemate in WW1 was actually broken by new German tactics called “stormtroopers”
you can read about this in Ernst Junger’s memoir, “Storm of Steel”
i cant wait to see 1917!
I ask, if Stone gets 9 years to lying to Congress, how many years Rep.Shift should get to Changing Transcript and lying to Congress, to the Nation and the World?
Respectfully
I’m guessing a firing squad.
Mespo,
Not to stir trouble this morning, but what the hell are you people in Virginia doing?
The DC Fed bureaucrats have so far successfully invaded North Virginia & captured the state govt.
Another few days & you people won’t have any guns for a firing squad & that mass murdering baby killer governor you have is working to send a goon squad out to shoot everyone up with their special K new vaccines. lol
I’m wondering maybe we send those N Virginia DC bureaucrats to some place like Puerto Rico or American Samoa to get them to stop interfering in the people of Virginia’s biz.
Oky1:
We’re self-flagellating with a crowd of Dim come-heres. Don’t worry. We’ll fix it at the next election. I’ve seen anger here like I’ve never seen before at the Dims. Even the business guys are getting pissed.