Foreseeable Misuse? Trump’s Suggestion Of Possible Use Of Disinfectant In The Blood Triggers Industry Warnings [Updated]

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The maker of Lysol also issued a statement warning against any internal use  of its disinfectant after President Donald Trump suggested the possibility of an “injection” of disinfectant into victims of the coronavirus.  The warning reflects an interesting legal problem for these companies.  Under product liability rules, a company is liable for the “foreseeable misuse” of its products.  While the intentional ingestion of household cleaners have been a problem in a small number of cases, President Trump’s musing about its use could encourage others to attempt such a home remedy.  We have already seen such poisonings from products ranging from tainted alcohol to fish tank cleaners.  Lysol and other companies have every reason to issue warnings, particularly in the baffling absence of a corrective statement from the White House. Polls show that only 23 percent of viewers have a high level of trust what the President says on the pandemic. That is notably lower than his support in most polls overall. There are still many who trust the President on advice to a moderate or high degree.  Ultimately, this is not about politics.  This type of statement is dangerous for those who do rely on the President for information on the virus. Update: The White House has issued a statement this morning blaming the media for misrepresenting the President’s remarks.

President Trump’s comment shocked many last night.  He made the remarks after a helpful briefing from Bill Bryan, who leads the Department of Homeland Security’s science and technology division, on research that showed that the virus doesn’t live as long in warmer and more humid temperatures. He also discussed the success of bleach and alcohol to kill the virus on non-porous surfaces.

That was all to the good and even supported Trump’s earlier comments that summer could diminish the virus.  Then Trump said the following:  “So supposing we hit the body with a tremendous — whether it’s ultraviolet or just a very powerful light — and I think you said that hasn’t been checked because of the testing. And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or some other way, and I think you said you’re going to test that, too . . . I see the disinfectant that knocks it out in a minute, one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning? As you see, it gets in the lungs, it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it would be interesting to check that.”

Trump did not explain what he meant by disinfectant but they were discussing bleach and isopropyl alcohol.  The President rather to “something like that”
disinfectant that kills the virus in a one minute:

 

 

This all put companies in a legally precarious position. Products must be designed to protect against foreseeable misuseSee RESTATEMENT (THIRD) OF TORTS: PRODUCTS LIABILITY § 2 (1998).  Court have ruled that “if the injury resulting from foreseeable misuse of a product is one which an adequate warning concerning the use of the product would likely prevent, such misuse is no defense.” Bristol-Myers Co. v. Gonzales, 548 S.W.2d 416, 422-23 (Tex. App. 1976), rev’d on other grounds 561 S.W.2d 801 (Tex. 1978).  It is easy to exaggerate the foreseeable misuse claims but it is a constant concern for manufacturers.  The President’s comment does not instantantly make this foreseeable but it certainly increases the risk for people who may be willing to use such products.  Given the recent Tide Pod Challenge, there is always a certain percentage of reckless actors.

For that reason, it is not surprising that Lysol quickly sent out the following statement:

“As a global leader in health and hygiene products, we must be clear that under no circumstance should our disinfectant products be administered into the human body (through injection, ingestion or any other route). As with all products, our disinfectant and hygiene products should only be used as intended and in line with usage guidelines. Please read the label and safety information,” the statement continued, adding that the company believes it has a “responsibility in providing consumers with access to accurate, up-to-date information as advised by leading public health experts.”

As someone who has taught torts for 30 years, this is one of the strangest situations that I have seen in this area of product liability.  Even a passing statement by the President can induce people to attempt a home remedy in the use of such disinfectants.  It is for that reason that I am astonished that the White House did not immediately send out a statement that the President was not suggesting the use of household disinfectants. That failure to issue a corrective statement only magnifies the legal concerns for these companies.

These products already have warning against ingestion, which is one of the primary risks for disinfectant companies.  In the end, I do not see how the President’s comment should now make ingestion foreseeable for these companies but, as the President himself often discusses, he has a tremendous reach on television and social media. For that reason, a warning is wise for these companies in counteracting the impact of this comment.

This is the type of confusion that could lead to the loss of life. For that reason, the White House needs only issue a statement amplifying these warnings and stating that the President was not suggesting that household cleaners or disinfectants should ever be injected or digested.  This was a couple ill-considered lines, but it was a dangerously notion to promulgate in the minds of consumers.  Again, the White House seems a couple steps behind of the news cycle.  Had a corrective statement been issued last night, the media hit would not have been avoided entirely but certainly blunted.  Like justice, spin delayed is spin denied.

Update: The White House comments falls considerably short of a clarification. The White House Press Secretary stated: “President Trump has repeatedly said that Americans should consult with medical doctors regarding coronavirus treatment, a point that he emphasized again during yesterday’s briefing. Leave it to the media to irresponsibly take President Trump out of context and run with negative headlines.”

I have often criticized the media for unfair coverage but this was not taking a comment out of context. Moreover, it did not appear to be either a comment made to the media or a comment made in sarcasm, as later claimed by the President.  It was an ill-conceived and potentially dangerous comment that could have been addressed with a simple clarifying statement last night.

334 thoughts on “Foreseeable Misuse? Trump’s Suggestion Of Possible Use Of Disinfectant In The Blood Triggers Industry Warnings [Updated]”

  1. Oh, for Pete’s sake. I watched the press conference and heard the question. This has nothing to do with the President’s lack of a “social filter” or his tendency to “think out loud.” Some questions are simply stupid. This was one of them. On a positive note, Mr. Trump once again proves the importance of careful product labeling.

    Now you’ll have to excuse me. I’m part of that COVID-19 high-risk demographic and it’s time to start by Lysol drip.

    1. it may be less stupid than you suppose. he mentioned UV light first not “disinfectant.” To disinfect is actually a thing that can be done with UV light.

      And it actually was studied and use in antimicrobial therapies. here is medical literature to study:

      Format: AbstractSend to
      Adv Exp Med Biol. 2017;996:295-309. doi: 10.1007/978-3-319-56017-5_25.
      Ultraviolet Irradiation of Blood: “The Cure That Time Forgot”?
      Hamblin MR1,2,3.
      Author information
      Abstract
      Ultraviolet blood irradiation (UBI) was extensively used in the 1940s and 1950s to treat many diseases including septicemia, pneumonia, tuberculosis, arthritis, asthma and even poliomyelitis. The early studies were carried out by several physicians in USA and published in the American Journal of Surgery. However with the development of antibiotics, UBI use declined and it has now been called “the cure that time forgot”. Later studies were mostly performed by Russian workers and in other Eastern countries and the modern view in Western countries is that UBI remains highly controversial.This chapter discusses the potential of UBI as an alternative approach to current methods used to treat infections, as an immune-modulating therapy and as a method for normalizing blood parameters. No resistance of microorganisms to UV irradiation has been reported, and multi-antibiotic resistant strains are as susceptible as their wild-type counterparts. Low and mild doses of UV kill microorganisms by damaging the DNA, while any DNA damage in host cells can be rapidly repaired by DNA repair enzymes. However the use of UBI to treat septicemia cannot be solely due to UV-mediated killing of bacteria in the blood-stream, as only 5-7% of blood volume needs to be treated with UV to produce the optimum benefit. UBI may enhance the phagocytic capacity of various phagocytic cells (neutrophils and dendritic cells), inhibit lymphocytes, and oxidize blood lipids. The oxidative nature of UBI may have mechanisms in common with ozone therapy and other oxygen therapies. There may be some similarities to extracorporeal photopheresis (ECP) using psoralens and UVA irradiation. However there are differences between UBI and ECP in that UBI tends to stimulate the immune system, while ECP tends to be immunosuppressive. With the recent emergence of bacteria that are resistant to all known antibiotics, UBI should be more investigated as an alternative approach to infections, and as an immune-modulating therapy.

      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29124710

      1. with respect to Professor Turley, perhaps Trump is less wrong than he may have suspected?
        The POTUS often is not communicating well, I agree, but the notion of an experimental use of UV light is not actually implausible, indeed– it is underway in testing

        https://www.nasdaq.com/press-release/aytu-bioscience-signs-exclusive-global-license-with-cedars-sinai-for-potential

        Cedars-Sinai-Developed ‘Healight’ Medical Device Platform Technology Being Studied as a Potential First-in-Class COVID-19 Treatment

        Conference Call Scheduled for Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 4:30 pm ET

        ENGLEWOOD, CO / ACCESSWIRE / April 20, 2020 / Aytu BioScience, Inc. (NASDAQ:AYTU) (the “Company”), a specialty pharmaceutical company focused on commercializing novel products that address significant patient needs announced today that it has signed an exclusive worldwide license from Cedars-Sinai to develop and commercialize the Healight Platform Technology (“Healight”). This medical device technology platform, discovered and developed by scientists at Cedars-Sinai, is being studied as a potential first-in-class treatment for coronavirus and other respiratory infections.

        The company will host a live conference call and webcast Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 4:30 p.m. ET. Conference call details are provided at the end of this press release.

        Led by Mark Pimentel, MD, the research team of the Medically Associated Science and Technology (MAST) Program at Cedars-Sinai has been developing the patent-pending Healight platform since 2016 and has produced a growing body of scientific evidence demonstrating pre-clinical safety and effectiveness of the technology as an antiviral and antibacterial treatment. The Healight technology employs proprietary methods of administering intermittent ultraviolet (UV) A light via a novel endotracheal medical device. Pre-clinical findings indicate the technology’s significant impact on eradicating a wide range of viruses and bacteria, inclusive of coronavirus. The data have been the basis of discussions with the FDA for a near-term path to enable human use for the potential treatment of coronavirus in intubated patients in the intensive care unit (ICU). Beyond the initial pursuit of a coronavirus ICU indication, additional data suggest broader clinical applications for the technology across a range of viral and bacterial pathogens. This includes bacteria implicated in ventilator associated pneumonia (VAP).

        “Our team has shown that administering a specific spectrum of UV-A light can eradicate viruses in infected human cells (including coronavirus) and bacteria in the area while preserving healthy cells,” stated Dr. Pimentel of Cedars-Sinai. Ali Rezaie, MD, one of the inventors of this technology states, “Our lab at Cedars-Sinai has extensively studied the effects of this unique technology on bacteria and viruses. Based on our findings we believe this therapeutic approach has the potential to significantly impact the high morbidity and mortality of coronavirus-infected patients and patients infected with other respiratory pathogens. We are looking forward to partnering with Aytu BioScience to move this technology forward for the benefit of patients all over the world.”

        The company believes the Healight platform technology has the potential to positively impact outcomes for critically ill patients infected with coronavirus and severe respiratory infections. The company licensed exclusive worldwide rights to the technology from Cedars-Sinai for all endotracheal and nasopharyngeal indications. Patents have been filed by Cedars-Sinai Department of Technology Transfer, and Aytu BioScience will manage all aspects of intellectual property prosecution and filing globally. Aytu BioScience expects to partner the product outside the U.S.

        “We are honored to be partnering with Cedars-Sinai as we believe the Healight therapeutic platform has the potential to help many patients during this coronavirus pandemic and beyond,” said Josh Disbrow, Chairman and CEO of Aytu BioScience.

    2. Mike, some of our best scientists think about things that seem crazy at first. It might seem crazy to think about how to prevent heart attacks or strokes…make the blood less sticky and thin it out. Whoever said that must be crazy, right Mike? But today we use blood thinners to thin the blood and make it less sticky. Maybe the words I am using are not the exact words but in the end Eliquis is making a lot of money for doing just that and saving a lot of lives. What crazy nut ever though we could stick a dye in the blood and see the heart vessels… Must be absolutely stupid……

  2. I think given our court system and it’s product liability law which gave us such “necessary” warning labels as “place ladder on level surface” there are actually legitimate legal concerns here — but only because our court system is a farce.

  3. I would’ve expected better from you, Jonathan. When I saw the headline to this and thought about it for a couple of minutes, I started wondering whether this was Fish Tank Cleaner 2.0. And sure enough it was – the president only asked about sunlight being a disinfectant, and now Lysol has caught #TDS from the #FakeNews Corps.

    Tim Pool shows how the fake journalists got his question all twisted better than I can: https://youtu.be/p53kPyooh0s

    1. REGARDING ABOVE:

      Here we have a sock puppet, Alphageekster, posting a video by some dubious fool assuring us the mad president isnt as crazy as he seems.

  4. The very clip you showed showed him saying LIGHT as a disinfectant clear as day many times. Are you now bending in a pretzel like everyone else to get his words to have some meaning only you can hear? It’s as clear as day!

    1. The #FakeNews corps took the president’s comment on sunlight and make it sound like he was talking about Lysol. That’s what you apparently don’t understand.

  5. This sort of idiocy created a collector item by sorting out Ruger handguns into pre warning and post warning handguns. An entire disclaimer was stamped on the barrels. If people need to be told that guns can hurt people, maybe they shouldn’t be allowed to operate any machinery.

    If you’re going to be dumb, you better be tough.

  6. Of course the Left is outraged by the President’s comment. They know it’s their constituents that would be stupid enough to chug cleaning products. Next, it will be reported that the President wants to poison their base.

  7. BREAKING NEWS: Scientists discover certain poisons injected intaveneously kill cancer cells. Oncologists applaud Chemotherapy.

        1. Olly, can you tell us ‘who’ produced that video? It’s not entirely clear, as far as I can ascertain.

          1. This took about 1 minute to discover.

            The Healight technology employs proprietary methods of administering intermittent ultraviolet (UV) A light via a novel endotracheal medical device. Pre-clinical findings indicate the technology’s significant impact on eradicating a wide range of viruses and bacteria, inclusive of coronavirus.
            https://apnews.com/b44f4531071e6204023f7b8e16f59d4b

            1. Olly, it’s a speculative company promoting a product and that press release is promotional material.

              Curiously that press release keeps referencing Cedas-Samai Hospital. But it fails to mention ‘where’ Cedars-Sanai is. How odd!

              For the record, L.A.’s most prominent hospital is Cedars-Sanai on the border of Beverly Hills. Yet the press release doesnt specifically say that’s the Cedars-Sanai in question. Something isnt right.

              1. Something isnt right.

                I suspect that has a lot to do with how you gather and process information. You were committed to a narrative when you entered this post of Turleys. You had already made up your mind about the direction the threads should go. In other words, you have a bias and nothing makes sense to you that doesn’t confirm that bias. Which of course partly explains your recent panic attacks. You are not intellectually nimble enough to have a paradigm shift. What is truly sad about that is what you see around you as completely insane, is actually a sane world that doesn’t fit your reality.

                1. Olly, you clearly cant address the issue at hand. The press release of a speculative business venture is hardly the same as peer-reviewed science. This company in Colorado could be a group of quacks.

                  1. you clearly cant address the issue at hand.

                    What issue have you conjured up, now that I addressed your previous issue of who produced the video? 🤔

      1. Medicine is endlessly inventive and creative with new treatments. And indeed, in general viral research has found uv to be effective at shrinking viral cell walls…

        But the way Trump presented his elementary and surface curiosity on the subject at his freak show presser yesterday has a good chance of motivating someone to try to eat a uv light bulb when they’re all high or something…

        Time to hold Trump accountable for his verbal diarhea.

      2. “This video has been removed for violating YouTube’s Community Guidelines.”

        And whatever it was is gone, baby, gone.

    1. Good thought Olly. Science hopes the chemicals used kills the cancer cells before it kills the good cells. And it was not that many years ago (1940s) Lysol advertised its product to be used as a feminine hygiene product and I believe as a birth control product.

        1. I am one degree of separation from a woman who would douche with Lysol. She was born in 1907 and died in 1967 and lived in the Shenandoah Valley.

  8. Are people really this stupid? (I already know the answer to that.) President Trump did not come up with this idea on his own. Obviously, the people at Fort Detrick are already looking into this. “Disinfectant” is a relative term. Basically, disinfectants are alcohol and bleach, which is a term for anything that kills germs. The medical profession has been using ultraviolet rays to treat medical conditions for decades. As for injecting poisons, this is also common. We just had one of our dogs treated for heartworms earlier this year. The treatment? Three injections of cyanide! That, folks, is poison. As for the makers of Lysol, etc. issuing warnings against people’s stupidity, that’s something else again. The real news at that conference is that Army researchers have determined that heat, humidity and solar rays do, in fact, kill the virus. I knew the media would do everything they could to divert attention. Of course, academics would follow them up. Granted, Turley is referring to possible legal issues but he’s still diverting from the real issue. That’s not surprising. After all, he is a lifelong Democrat who’s not willing to recognize what his party is doing. (By the way, I KNEW Turley was going to have something to say about it.)

    1. “ Are people really this stupid?” tRump is our president so the answer is YES.

      1. In fairness YNOT, the people didn’t elect Trump, the dysfunctional EC did. The people elected Hillary.

        1. True but still too many stupid people; it should never have been close and am not a fan of HC.

  9. Maybe time to just put a pre- label on these press conferences warning the public that the President is not to be taken seriously. Some of his defenders have already taken a step by saying watch what he does not what he says. Actually disgraceful

    1. Or maybe people with an axe to grind or lousy comprehension skills should just not watch them. They could watch Rachel Maddow instead, or listen to Psychologist Lee of Yale!

      Meanwhile, us smart people can keep on watching Trump!

      Squeeky Fromm
      Girl Reporter

  10. Funny, but I did not hear any suggestion from Trump that I should drink disinfectant. I think the Trump haters and DNC shills hear what they want to hear or just make up what they wish he had said. More FAKE NEWS!

    Squeeky Fromm
    Girl Reporter

  11. “the White House needs only issue a statement amplifying these warnings and stating that the President was not suggesting that household cleaners or disinfectants should ever be injected or digested”

    They could issue such a statement, but it would be a lie. There are too many “the President did not say that” type of statements coming up. How about “The President said exactly that, but after consulting with medical advisors, he realized he was wrong and wants to strongly advise people not to do that.”

    There are just too many people – Jonathan among them, who will spend too much time clarifyingTrump’s statements and claiming he is just misquoted or misunderstood instead of just saying that he is wrong.

  12. Oh for God’s sake Turley…..the president didn’t suggest anything….he ASKED A QUESTION. Read your own damn post. It was a question not a suggestion.

    1. Trump doesn’t know when to keep his mouth shut… — and yet he’s always shouting “FAKE NEWS”…

  13. Shocking! An idiot president passing along idiot ideas to idiots. I just wish there was some way to predict this could’ve happened, or that there was some way to stop this madness before it’s reached the stunningly bizarre levels it’s reached…

    No wait.

    Let’s just say if Trump can go outside the box as much as he has re emoluments, his staff not putting out warnings or retractions, whatever…, he should get roped into any resulting suits dropped on Lysol. Or tanning bed manufacturers when someone actually tries to eat one.

    1. Anonymous, you should change your name to “animus,” it would be more fitting to your total hatred of Trump. The true idiot is you, for calling everyone else an “idiot.”

      I don’t recall you ever once, giving this President credit for anything he has done in his time in office. And, I have not once seen you criticize Joe Biden or anyone else in the Democrat Party for anything they have said or done.

      You are like a robot who has been programmed for hatred of Trump, with no other attributes to speak of. You are giving robots a bad name.

      1. Wait a cotton pickin’ minute there…, I’ve given Floptop credit for masterfully branding himself to an idiot nation. For openly flaunting the emoluments laws and getting away with it. For kidnapping the Republican party and getting away with it. For flaunting illegal behavior in office like no other president has even come close to. For shaking down a foreign nation for illegal help in a domestic election…, and getting away with it.

        Fat Nixon is a master.

  14. Sadly, the President does not have a social filter. Those of us who intend to vote for him understand that. The fish tank case seems to be a case of a woman trying and succeeding in killing her husband.

    1. Yesterday’s sad performance of The Trump Show wasn’t the product of a lack of a social filter. That’s a Kellyanne-ism to mitigate the lying and the disgusting displays of narcissism, of which yesterday’s performance was one. The cameras were on, so he’s going to go to the podium, sidelining the doctors, getting free publicity and musing about putting lights into people and injecting disinfectants because sunlight and disinfectants kill viruses on surfaces. Then he asked one of the doctors” “you’re looking into this–right?”

      Phil Rucker, one of the authors of “A Very Stable Genius” asked him, essentially, “since you are not medically-trained, why are you coming out here and suggesting medical treatments that you have no expertise for?” Of course, Agent Orange immediately called him “fake news”. It was a very valid question–why does he do these things, which includes calling Chloroquine and Hydroxychloroquine “game changers” despite the fact that they haven’t been tested for safety or efficacy, and, as it turns out, they may actually make victims worse. The answer is explained by his serious mental illness: narcissism. He has to be the know-it-all, the big shot, the point man on everything under the sun. He could never stand idly by and allow Anthony Fauci or Debra Birx receive attention and praise for the daily briefings when he could be in front of the cameras. Trump has to be front and center. That is not the product of a lacking social filter—it is the product of malignant narcissism. The effect of displaying his stupidity and uttering nonsense about medical matters in the depth of a pandemic does not occur to him. The cameras are on: time for The Trump Show!

      I know Fox News doesn’t cover this, but did you see what foreign newspapers had to say about this pathetic display? We are now the laughingstock of the world.

      1. UV irradiation of blood: the cure that time forgot

        Format: AbstractSend to
        Adv Exp Med Biol. 2017;996:295-309. doi: 10.1007/978-3-319-56017-5_25.
        Ultraviolet Irradiation of Blood: “The Cure That Time Forgot”?
        Hamblin MR1,2,3.
        Author information
        Abstract
        Ultraviolet blood irradiation (UBI) was extensively used in the 1940s and 1950s to treat many diseases including septicemia, pneumonia, tuberculosis, arthritis, asthma and even poliomyelitis. The early studies were carried out by several physicians in USA and published in the American Journal of Surgery. However with the development of antibiotics, UBI use declined and it has now been called “the cure that time forgot”. Later studies were mostly performed by Russian workers and in other Eastern countries and the modern view in Western countries is that UBI remains highly controversial.This chapter discusses the potential of UBI as an alternative approach to current methods used to treat infections, as an immune-modulating therapy and as a method for normalizing blood parameters. No resistance of microorganisms to UV irradiation has been reported, and multi-antibiotic resistant strains are as susceptible as their wild-type counterparts. Low and mild doses of UV kill microorganisms by damaging the DNA, while any DNA damage in host cells can be rapidly repaired by DNA repair enzymes. However the use of UBI to treat septicemia cannot be solely due to UV-mediated killing of bacteria in the blood-stream, as only 5-7% of blood volume needs to be treated with UV to produce the optimum benefit. UBI may enhance the phagocytic capacity of various phagocytic cells (neutrophils and dendritic cells), inhibit lymphocytes, and oxidize blood lipids. The oxidative nature of UBI may have mechanisms in common with ozone therapy and other oxygen therapies. There may be some similarities to extracorporeal photopheresis (ECP) using psoralens and UVA irradiation. However there are differences between UBI and ECP in that UBI tends to stimulate the immune system, while ECP tends to be immunosuppressive. With the recent emergence of bacteria that are resistant to all known antibiotics, UBI should be more investigated as an alternative approach to infections, and as an immune-modulating therapy.

      2. Natacha – Trump was right on the UVA light. Your TDS must be on over-drive.

        1. No, he wasn’t right. He knew nothing about this discarded theory–he made that up on the fly because the cameras were on his ugly face. If this were a valid medical treatment, it would still be in use. He heard that disinfectants and UV light kills the COVID-19 virus on surfaces, so he muses that lights can be placed in the body, or disinfectants can be injected, neither of which is true, and then he asked the doctors whether they were looking into this. More of his lying and irresponsibility.

          I am acquainted with some Veterans’ advocates. One problem for some of them is an ongoing generalized “jungle rot”, which is a fungal infection that begins between the toes and in the areas of the body that stay moist, like armpits, the groin, etc.. Some of them have had it since Viet Nam when they had to traipse through water and stayed wet during the monsoon rains, and it is refractory to treatment. Anti-fungals are toxic and often not effective, so they tried UV light as a treatment. You don’t have to be a scientist to know that UV light causes skin cancer, so they don’t do this any more. It’s better to have a fungus than cancer.

          It never ceases to amaze me the lengths to which Trumpsters will go to defend this creature from his lying and narcissism. What’s next–diverting NIH research funds from valid anti-viral research to research on how to put light inside the human body or how to inject Lysol, like they did with Hydroxychloroquine, all to try to make Trump look good? If any scientist balks or criticizes der fuerher, he/she will get fired or demoted.

            1. And of course garyajenkins @10:34am posted a short video explaining this as well. But as we know from FishWings comments, recognizing facts and evidence isn’t their thing.

            2. You silly tw_t. The kind of UV light that kills viruses by damaging their cell walls also damages the cell walls of the skin, which is how it causes skin cancer. UV light doesn’t distinguish between the types of cell walls it damages. The type of UV light used medically can also cause skin cancer. You don’t know what the hell you’re talking about.

          1. it never ceases to amaze me that self-glorified commentators like Natacha with no medical or scientific authority will discount experimental treatments before the research has been done to determine whether or not the therapies can be helpful to sick patients.

            https://www.nasdaq.com/press-release/aytu-bioscience-signs-exclusive-global-license-with-cedars-sinai-for-potential

            Cedars-Sinai-Developed ‘Healight’ Medical Device Platform Technology Being Studied as a Potential First-in-Class COVID-19 Treatment

            Conference Call Scheduled for Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 4:30 pm ET

            ENGLEWOOD, CO / ACCESSWIRE / April 20, 2020 / Aytu BioScience, Inc. (NASDAQ:AYTU) (the “Company”), a specialty pharmaceutical company focused on commercializing novel products that address significant patient needs announced today that it has signed an exclusive worldwide license from Cedars-Sinai to develop and commercialize the Healight Platform Technology (“Healight”). This medical device technology platform, discovered and developed by scientists at Cedars-Sinai, is being studied as a potential first-in-class treatment for coronavirus and other respiratory infections.

            The company will host a live conference call and webcast Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 4:30 p.m. ET. Conference call details are provided at the end of this press release.

            Led by Mark Pimentel, MD, the research team of the Medically Associated Science and Technology (MAST) Program at Cedars-Sinai has been developing the patent-pending Healight platform since 2016 and has produced a growing body of scientific evidence demonstrating pre-clinical safety and effectiveness of the technology as an antiviral and antibacterial treatment. The Healight technology employs proprietary methods of administering intermittent ultraviolet (UV) A light via a novel endotracheal medical device. Pre-clinical findings indicate the technology’s significant impact on eradicating a wide range of viruses and bacteria, inclusive of coronavirus. The data have been the basis of discussions with the FDA for a near-term path to enable human use for the potential treatment of coronavirus in intubated patients in the intensive care unit (ICU). Beyond the initial pursuit of a coronavirus ICU indication, additional data suggest broader clinical applications for the technology across a range of viral and bacterial pathogens. This includes bacteria implicated in ventilator associated pneumonia (VAP).

            “Our team has shown that administering a specific spectrum of UV-A light can eradicate viruses in infected human cells (including coronavirus) and bacteria in the area while preserving healthy cells,” stated Dr. Pimentel of Cedars-Sinai. Ali Rezaie, MD, one of the inventors of this technology states, “Our lab at Cedars-Sinai has extensively studied the effects of this unique technology on bacteria and viruses. Based on our findings we believe this therapeutic approach has the potential to significantly impact the high morbidity and mortality of coronavirus-infected patients and patients infected with other respiratory pathogens. We are looking forward to partnering with Aytu BioScience to move this technology forward for the benefit of patients all over the world.”

            The company believes the Healight platform technology has the potential to positively impact outcomes for critically ill patients infected with coronavirus and severe respiratory infections. The company licensed exclusive worldwide rights to the technology from Cedars-Sinai for all endotracheal and nasopharyngeal indications. Patents have been filed by Cedars-Sinai Department of Technology Transfer, and Aytu BioScience will manage all aspects of intellectual property prosecution and filing globally. Aytu BioScience expects to partner the product outside the U.S.

            “We are honored to be partnering with Cedars-Sinai as we believe the Healight therapeutic platform has the potential to help many patients during this coronavirus pandemic and beyond,” said Josh Disbrow, Chairman and CEO of Aytu BioScience.

            1. You cite a press release from a company seeking to test an un-approved medical device as proof that Trump wasn’t lying, and you are calling me stupid? Did you happen to notice that the tests were done in a lab, and not in human beings? Hydroxychloroquine kills COVID-19 in the lab, too, but not in humans. It’s the difference between in vitro and in vivo testing. Something that works in a lab setting oftentimes does not work in the human body.

            1. Awesome. The lengths the gullible rubes, dupes, klan wannabees, pocket-traitors and grifters on the make will go to in order to imagine the day glo bozo is not a raging imbecile. PLEASE keep it up; along with Pravda Faux News, your types will reinforce the day glo bozo’s antics. This ignorant, criminogenic buffoon doesn’t fool anyone outside of the 38%ers who live in the echo silo. The body politic will soon cleanse the charlatan-in-chief and the gelded remnants of what used to be the GOP, and restore my beloved country to true greatness, common decency, and honor.

              to kurtzie

              from you know who

            2. This piece was about using the C band of UV light to disinfect air in public places. It does not discuss, nor advocate for, inserting light into the human body to kill COVID-19.

              Right now, you can purchase a device (if they aren’t sold out) that can disinfect your cell phone, keys, and other small objects by placing them into a box that uses UV light rays that don’t heat up the object, but still kill the germs. This isn’t new technology.

          2. Natacha – it is UVA, not UV. You need to get your facts straight.

            1. There are multiple wavelengths of ultraviolet light. Two that are discussed are UVA and UVB.

  15. Well maybe one of the orange fascist’s zombies will make the next Darwin awards, quite a few already on the list. Wouldn’t surprise me. There are quite a few that would volunteer to give him that shot to show how well it would work.

    1. I’d like to thank you, and Ann Althouse, for finding a way to use multiple paragraphs to say Trump acts like a child or a rambunctious puppy.

  16. The President thinks out loud. That can be embarrassing. Form interests you too much.

  17. I have no clue why you would hold Trump responsible for the conduct of the couple who ate the fish tank cleaner. The ID network has lots of true crime programs. The smart money says one of them will do a feature on the distaff side of that couple once the Arizona court system is done with her.

    1. These are the very same people that hold Trump responsible for the Wuhan virus, and refuse to acknowledge what everyone else knows about the virus coming here from China.

      That is why it is hard to believe anything these Trump haters say.

    2. i can’t tell you how much of a pleasure it is to quote you this way in an actual discussion about what an American president said:

      “I have no clue why you would hold Trump responsible for the conduct of the couple who ate the fish tank cleaner.

      The apocalypse is upon us.

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