The maker of Lysol also issued a statement warning against any internal use of its disinfectant after President Donald Trump suggested the possibility of an “injection” of disinfectant into victims of the coronavirus. The warning reflects an interesting legal problem for these companies. Under product liability rules, a company is liable for the “foreseeable misuse” of its products. While the intentional ingestion of household cleaners have been a problem in a small number of cases, President Trump’s musing about its use could encourage others to attempt such a home remedy. We have already seen such poisonings from products ranging from tainted alcohol to fish tank cleaners. Lysol and other companies have every reason to issue warnings, particularly in the baffling absence of a corrective statement from the White House. Polls show that only 23 percent of viewers have a high level of trust what the President says on the pandemic. That is notably lower than his support in most polls overall. There are still many who trust the President on advice to a moderate or high degree. Ultimately, this is not about politics. This type of statement is dangerous for those who do rely on the President for information on the virus. Update: The White House has issued a statement this morning blaming the media for misrepresenting the President’s remarks.
President Trump’s comment shocked many last night. He made the remarks after a helpful briefing from Bill Bryan, who leads the Department of Homeland Security’s science and technology division, on research that showed that the virus doesn’t live as long in warmer and more humid temperatures. He also discussed the success of bleach and alcohol to kill the virus on non-porous surfaces.
That was all to the good and even supported Trump’s earlier comments that summer could diminish the virus. Then Trump said the following: “So supposing we hit the body with a tremendous — whether it’s ultraviolet or just a very powerful light — and I think you said that hasn’t been checked because of the testing. And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or some other way, and I think you said you’re going to test that, too . . . I see the disinfectant that knocks it out in a minute, one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning? As you see, it gets in the lungs, it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it would be interesting to check that.”
Trump did not explain what he meant by disinfectant but they were discussing bleach and isopropyl alcohol. The President rather to “something like that”
disinfectant that kills the virus in a one minute:
This all put companies in a legally precarious position. Products must be designed to protect against foreseeable misuse. See RESTATEMENT (THIRD) OF TORTS: PRODUCTS LIABILITY § 2 (1998). Court have ruled that “if the injury resulting from foreseeable misuse of a product is one which an adequate warning concerning the use of the product would likely prevent, such misuse is no defense.” Bristol-Myers Co. v. Gonzales, 548 S.W.2d 416, 422-23 (Tex. App. 1976), rev’d on other grounds 561 S.W.2d 801 (Tex. 1978). It is easy to exaggerate the foreseeable misuse claims but it is a constant concern for manufacturers. The President’s comment does not instantantly make this foreseeable but it certainly increases the risk for people who may be willing to use such products. Given the recent Tide Pod Challenge, there is always a certain percentage of reckless actors.
For that reason, it is not surprising that Lysol quickly sent out the following statement:
“As a global leader in health and hygiene products, we must be clear that under no circumstance should our disinfectant products be administered into the human body (through injection, ingestion or any other route). As with all products, our disinfectant and hygiene products should only be used as intended and in line with usage guidelines. Please read the label and safety information,” the statement continued, adding that the company believes it has a “responsibility in providing consumers with access to accurate, up-to-date information as advised by leading public health experts.”
As someone who has taught torts for 30 years, this is one of the strangest situations that I have seen in this area of product liability. Even a passing statement by the President can induce people to attempt a home remedy in the use of such disinfectants. It is for that reason that I am astonished that the White House did not immediately send out a statement that the President was not suggesting the use of household disinfectants. That failure to issue a corrective statement only magnifies the legal concerns for these companies.
These products already have warning against ingestion, which is one of the primary risks for disinfectant companies. In the end, I do not see how the President’s comment should now make ingestion foreseeable for these companies but, as the President himself often discusses, he has a tremendous reach on television and social media. For that reason, a warning is wise for these companies in counteracting the impact of this comment.
This is the type of confusion that could lead to the loss of life. For that reason, the White House needs only issue a statement amplifying these warnings and stating that the President was not suggesting that household cleaners or disinfectants should ever be injected or digested. This was a couple ill-considered lines, but it was a dangerously notion to promulgate in the minds of consumers. Again, the White House seems a couple steps behind of the news cycle. Had a corrective statement been issued last night, the media hit would not have been avoided entirely but certainly blunted. Like justice, spin delayed is spin denied.
Update: The White House comments falls considerably short of a clarification. The White House Press Secretary stated: “President Trump has repeatedly said that Americans should consult with medical doctors regarding coronavirus treatment, a point that he emphasized again during yesterday’s briefing. Leave it to the media to irresponsibly take President Trump out of context and run with negative headlines.”
I have often criticized the media for unfair coverage but this was not taking a comment out of context. Moreover, it did not appear to be either a comment made to the media or a comment made in sarcasm, as later claimed by the President. It was an ill-conceived and potentially dangerous comment that could have been addressed with a simple clarifying statement last night.
SMH:
“Trump claims controversial comment about injecting disinfectants was ‘sarcastic’”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/04/24/disinfectant-injection-coronavirus-trump/
‘When asked Friday during a bill signing in the Oval Office to expand upon this, Trump said it was not intended as a serious suggestion.
“I was asking a question sarcastically to reporters like you just to see what would happen,” Trump said.’
“Revealed: leader of group peddling bleach as coronavirus ‘cure’ wrote to Trump this week”
“Mark Grenon wrote to Trump saying chlorine dioxide ‘can rid the body of Covid-19’ days before the president promoted disinfectant as treatment”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/24/revealed-leader-group-peddling-bleach-cure-lobbied-trump-coronavirus
Credit to Seth.
Sarcasm..? By Trump standards he actually sound relatively earnest.
Yep. It clearly wasn’t sarcasm, but now he’s embarrassed.
Trump Got Disinfectant Idea From Rightwing Fraudsters
The leader of the most prominent group in the US peddling potentially lethal industrial bleach as a “miracle cure” for coronavirus wrote to Donald Trump at the White House this week.
In his letter, Mark Grenon told Trump that chlorine dioxide – a powerful bleach used in industrial processes such as textile manufacturing that can have fatal side-effects when drunk – is “a wonderful detox that can kill 99% of the pathogens in the body”. He added that it “can rid the body of Covid-19”.
A few days after Grenon dispatched his letter, Trump went on national TV at his daily coronavirus briefing at the White House on Thursday and promoted the idea that disinfectant could be used as a treatment for the virus. To the astonishment of medical experts, the US president said that disinfectant “knocks it out in a minute. One minute!”
Trump did not specify where the idea of using disinfectant as a possible remedy for Covid-19 came from, and the source for his notion remains obscure. But the Guardian has learned that peddlers of chlorine dioxide – industrial bleach – have been making direct approaches to the White House in recent days.
Grenon styles himself as “archbishop” of Genesis II – a Florida-based outfit that claims to be a church but which in fact is the largest producer and distributor of chlorine dioxide bleach as a “miracle cure” in the US. He brands the chemical as MMS, “miracle mineral solution”, and claims fraudulently that it can cure 99% of all illnesses including cancer, malaria, HIV/Aids as well as autism.
Since the start of the pandemic, Genesis II has been marketing MMS as a cure to coronavirus. It advises users, including children, to mix three to six drops of bleach in water and drink it.
In his weekly televised radio show, posted online on Sunday, Grenon read out the letter he wrote to Trump. He said it began: “Dear Mr President, I am praying you read this letter and intervene.”
Grenon said that 30 of his supporters have also written in the past few days to Trump at the White House urging him to take action to protect Genesis II in its bleach-peddling activities which they claim can cure coronavirus.
On Friday, hours after Trump talked about disinfectant on live TV, Grenon went further in a post on his Facebook page. He claimed that MMS had actually been sent to the White House. He wrote: “Trump has got the MMS and all the info!!! Things are happening folks! Lord help others to see the Truth!”
Paradoxically, Trump’s outburst about the possible value of an “injection” of disinfectant into the lungs of Covid-19 sufferers came just days after a leading agency within the president’s own administration took action to shut down the peddling of bleach as a coronavirus cure around the US.
Last week the US Food and Drug Administration obtained a federal court order barring Genesis II from selling what was described as “an unproven and potentially harmful treatment for Covid-19”. The FDA also ordered a disciple of Genesis II, Kerri Rivera, to remove claims that MMS cured coronavirus from her website.
Edited From: “Revealed: Leader Of Group Peddling Bleach As CorCoronavirus ‘Cure’ Wrote To Trump This Week”
Today’s Guardian
What’s interesting about the last several years is the sheer number of pseudo-controversies and the eagerness with which the president’s detractors propagate hem. (Yes, they’re all over our Facebook wall today).
Absurd, one could argue that Trump has a fatal tendency to keep feeding mindless controversies. This is exactly the reason presidents need experience in high office and, or government service. We, as voters, need to know how a potential president will behave in office. All we had as reference for Trump was a stupid reality show.
There are many FDA approved drugs that are ancient and used by generations of Americans that are associated with cardiac arrhythmia
Some Cardiac Antiarrhythmic drugs cause arrhythmias:
Class Ia (Quinidine, Procainamide, Disopromide); Class III (Dofetilide, Ibutilide, Sotalol)
Antipsychotic agents:
Neuroleptics: Haloperidol, Droperidol, Thioridazine, Chlorpromazine
Atypical antipsychotics: Ziprasidone, Risperidone, Citalopram
Antidepressants: Tricyclic antidepressants (TCAs) like Amitriptyline, Desipramine, Imipramine, and selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs)
Antibiotics: Fluiroquinolones: Levofloxacin, Cipofloxacin
Macrolides: Azithronycin, Erythromycin
Antifungals: ketoconazole and itraconazole
and others
Additionally, injecting dis- (undo) infectants (pathogens causing infection) is what is done to hospital and clinic patients who have bacterial, fungal and viral infections. Some of the above QT prolongation anti-infectants / disinfectants drugs are administered intramuscular, intravenously or orally
Our immune system synthesizes bleach (hypochlorite) and hydrogen peroxide to kill pathogens. Neutrophils and Macrophages attack and consume (phagocytosis) pathogens and then expose their toxic antimicrobial / disinfectant granules on them to kill them. Hypochlorite and Hydrogen peroxide are in their armamentarium as well as other toxic chemical agents. These molecular compounds synthesized by the body are lethal and cause great harm when unregulated
The constant fighting by both sides particularly when they site “science” is cute. Neither camp is right but that is besides the point. Trump asked a cute question. Patients ask their doctors all types of cute questions to which we take seriously. Better a “stupid” question when it comes to saving lives than not understanding. No question is stupid. Claiming to have science on your side when not having a grasp of science: entertaining
“No question is stupid” — absolutely correct, especially when society tries to brainstorm solutions.
I’m pretty much in agreement with most of the sentiment here. But it’s not a rebuttal to Turley’s article. Taking on Turley about torts is a fools errand. This article is quite reasonable and coherent given the current state of American tort law.
Turley doesn’t work for Lysol you know. In a rational world Lysol was being neurotic. That’s not the world Lysol gets to live in.
This whole issue is silly. President Trump is NOT a medical doctor, nor is he a scientist (he never said he was either or an authority), but he is intrigued about possibilities, without understanding dealing with diseases, etc. When the press asks gotcha questions and he refers them to doctors on the stage first (which some of the press ignore their educated statements) or gives a layman’s opinion, which if taken literally comes across as silly, and ignorant. Well, Trump never claimed to be a doctor or a scientist. The press asking HIM those questions are just set ups to make him look silly by those who love to take his comments out of context.
Very well articulated Gene.
I agree, this is very coherent and rational. Would you please provide us with your views on the slightly more fundamental issues of generational welfare, affirmative action privilege, forced busing, private-property-rights-violating “Non-Discrimination” laws, private-property-rights-violating “Fair Housing” laws, quotas, etc.? I’d love to read them, to discover whether your coherence and rationality are persistent and consistent or, shall we say, skin deep.
Good point, Gene.
The TTwits weigh in…
We expect more of our stable genius?
I’m not a doctor or scientist and when I heard those words come out of Trumps mouth I was shocked. When he recommends Hydroxychloroquine saying what do you have to lose, I realize we have a president that does not rely on experts but his own distorted intuition. Just last week he said that the final death rate from COVID 19 could be only 50 thousand. He doesn’t even know the death rate of this pandemic! His rhetoric has cause some of his followers to say kill dr. Fauci! He has shown absolutely no concern of the doctors and nurses dying helping others stay alive! He cares only about the stock market because he believe that is what will get him reelected. He wants us to thank him for doing such a good job. What! He works for the people, the federal government is payed for by our taxes. He is our employee. Instead of watching the tv and news and tweeting all day he should be working with experts in bring solutions to the states and not berate the governors that are democrats.
There is nothing wrong with hydroxychloroquine (must be used with zinc!) for treating most coronavirus cases.
If someone is zinc depleted, where the hell is their body going to get enough zinc to satisfy a zinc ionophore like hydroxychloroquine? It’s going to sap what little stores it has, which is probably what’s causing heart problems in some people who get only the hydroxychloroquine. Elderly people are often already low in zinc.
“There is nothing wrong with hydroxychloroquine (must be used with zinc!) for treating most coronavirus cases.”
Ah, so it’s Dr. Prairie Rose!
I am not a doctor. Doctors who have successfully used hydroxychloroquine used it with zinc. It is disingenuous for the “studies” to indicate it doesn’t work when they didn’t even emulate the successful use of it.
It is well-known that the drug is a zinc ionophore. Other research indicates zinc interferes with coronavirus replication. Geez, not hard to see why those doctors used hydroxychloroquine and zinc together.
Makes a gal wonder whether that other “study” was motivated to see the drug fail. Wouldn’t surprise me. Big Pharma wouldn’t be making a bunch of money off an element and a repurposed drug.
Exactly.
Asking the haters. Will you continue to take antibiotics? They systemicly disinfect whatever is infected within your body. Fleming was reported mocked for suggesting mold would kill certain bacteria.
Anonymous @ 2:36 is spinning, spinning, spinning…
Anon 2:45p – your body needs iron and chewing on nails is a source of iron readily available to you.
Idiot @ 4:04
Antibiotics only work on organisms which are not resistant. Taking too many antibiotics, not taking them correctly and/or under a health care provider’s direction, administering them to animals used for human food, which results in the drug being present in the meat and in our water systems,causes organisms to become resistant to antibiotics. There are many strains of antibiotic-resistant organisms, which are due to overuse. The result is that if you become infected with an antibiotic-resistant strain there is no drug to treat you with, so your body just has to fight it off as best as it can. This is the reason why pediatricians, for instance, are very hesitant to prescribe antibiotics for things like ear infections because they often will get better without treatment. Antibiotics do not kill viruses.
Antibiotics do not “disinfect whatever is infected within your body”, and they also kill off good bacteria in places where you need them, like your gut and the vagina, for instance, which is why antibiotics can cause diarrhea and yeast infections as side-effects.
Pay attention to Dr. Birx:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKrv_au8vSo&t=1665s
There will probably come a day (before the election) when Trump will claim that he suggested the cure for COVID-19.
Remember this?
“I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it. Every one of these doctors say, ‘How do you know so much about this?’ Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should’ve done that instead of running for president.” -Donald Trump
In this video the camera is on Dr. Birx the whole time and zooms in on her.
https://twitter.com/Daniel_Lewis3/status/1253482576699969537
Thanks, yyy.
Thanks, YYY. Birx looks like she wants to crawl out of there.
That is how she looked when Trump said he was going to impose the Chinese Traveller Ban.
Highlighting Jonathan’s update:
“Update: The White House comments falls considerably short of a clarification. The White House Press Secretary stated: “President Trump has repeatedly said that Americans should consult with medical doctors regarding coronavirus treatment, a point that he emphasized again during yesterday’s briefing. Leave it to the media to irresponsibly take President Trump out of context and run with negative headlines.”
Jonathan again, with the obvious and correct response to the statement from the WH:
“I have often criticized the media for unfair coverage but this was not taking a comment out of context. It was an ill-conceived and potentially dangerous comment that could have been addressed with a simple clarifying statement last night.”
Friday Morning:
FDA Issues Warning On Anti-Malaria Drug
The drugs hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine can cause dangerous abnormalities in heart rhythm in coronavirus patients, and should be used only in clinical trials or hospitals where patients can be closely monitored for heart problems, the Food and Drug Administration warned in a safety communication issued on Friday.
“The F.D.A. is aware of reports of serious heart rhythm problems in patients with Covid-19 treated with hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine, often in combination with azithromycin” and other drugs that can disrupt heart rhythm, the agency said. The statement also noted that many people were getting outpatient prescriptions for the drugs in the hopes of preventing the infection or treating it themselves.
The warning is based on a review of adverse events reported from multiple sources, the agency said, adding: “These adverse events were reported from the hospital and outpatient settings for treating or preventing COVID-19, and included QT interval prolongation, ventricular tachycardia and ventricular fibrillation, and in some cases death.”
There is no proof that hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine can help coronavirus patients. They are approved to treat malaria and the autoimmune diseases lupus and rheumatoid arthritis. But reports from France and China suggesting a benefit sparked interest in the drugs, even though the reports lacked the scientific controls needed to determine whether the drugs actually worked.
Edited From: “The FDA Issued A Warning Against Anti-Malaria Drug That Trump Has Touted”
Today’s New York Times
Liar and Fake-Newster and Shill! Here is the actual title of the FDA warning:
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FDA cautions against use of hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine for COVID-19 outside of the hospital setting or a clinical trial due to risk of heart rhythm problems
Close supervision is strongly recommended
https://www.fda.gov/drugs/drug-safety-and-availability/fda-cautions-against-use-hydroxychloroquine-or-chloroquine-covid-19-outside-hospital-setting-or
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But if you leave out the whole “outside of the hospital setting or clinical trial” thing, then you think you can deceive people.
What kind of a sick, partisan fiend would purposely endanger people just to get an anti-Trump headline for his post??? You are one sick puppy.
Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter
Haha. Sick puppy. Kettle/Pot? From an individual who never misses the two-fer-one white sheet sale down to the Piggly-Wiggly. On the upside, once the Fibbies arrest your klavern’s grand wizard, you might get the position by default as the only one in the whole clown show who can read.
this is to the squeeKKK
You all know who it’s from
Squeaky, what’s your investment??? Why do you feel compelled to vigorously defend a drug that even Trump and Fox no longer promote? Your impassioned defense illustrates how this president is inciting waves of madness by deluded followers.
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Out of curiosity, I hacked into Seth’s webcam yesterday just to see what he looks like IRL while posting on here. It turns out, he’s wildly gesticulating and shouting at the screen while holding up a sign that says, “Get A Brain, Morans.” Wow: Who knew Mr. Warner was so famous? Maybe that fame and notoriety is what leads him to think the sane, rational world is at all interested in his rhetorical diarrhea??
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I would like to point out that if there’s any one single individual supremely qualified to comment about madness and delusion, it is Mr. Warner. Hands down. Here, Seth, you have found your true life’s calling.
REGARDING ABOVE:
This is an absolute lie by a phony sock puppet. For the record I have never used the camera on my computer.
kydave is obviousy an incompetent idiot
that said, I hope you keep the camera on your computer covered. everyone should.
https://www.engadget.com/2016-09-23-the-fbi-recommends-you-cover-your-laptops-webcam-good-reasons.html
One can’t trust this shill for anything.
Here is what the FDA is telling doctors: “We recommend initial evaluation and monitoring when using hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine under the EUA or in clinical trials that investigate these medicines for the treatment or prevention of COVID-19. Monitoring may include baseline ECG, electrolytes, renal function and hepatic tests. Be aware that hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine can:
Isn’t that what physicians do when prescribing any medication…evaluate and monitor?
Alan, as usual we dont know where your paste is coming from. Nor do we have any date for that article. It could be a month old.
“Here is what the FDA is telling doctors”
Your concern in not where the information comes from. All you want to do is spout off and demonstrate your Stupidity.
Google part of what was quoted and go to site that comes from the FDA. Then open the appropriate box. Ask the FDA to better document their dates for your use.
Why should you complain about not being hand fed the site and information. You don’t have a distinct alias so you are in the same noxious community as Anonymous the Stupid and the Brainless Wonder.
Turleys criticisms of Trump – if we can call them that – are remarkably mild and they are always made conditional on “perhaps he meant..”. If after all these years you have doubts about the goat’s mental situation, the joke is on you!
🙂 Laughably, you keep using goat as if everyone reads that as an insult. As a retired Navy Chief and proud member of the Goat Locker, President Trump is more than welcome to be an honorary member of our fraternity. He can be one of us goats any time.
As Peter Shill/Set Warner just said, “Trump’s Reign of Madness Must End!”
Why??? So we can have “Biden’s Reign of Senile Dementia”???
Whoooo, talk about some oblivious shills!
Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter
Yep, Squeeky’s a little “girl.”
“Woman” is not a word that anyone would use to describe her.
I was wrong. Dr. Lee just analyzed Joe Biden, and she says he is fine, mentally:
https://pansiesforplato.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/bandy.pdf
I was sooo hoping she would say that he is obviously cognitively impaired. Crapola!
Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter
Squeeky Fromm. LOL! Spot On.
Lysol drinkers and various and sundry parasites, dependents and, otherwise, incompetents are the problem. They are allowed to vote. Now you know why, in 1788, the American Founders generally restricted the vote to male Europeans aged 21 with 50 lbs. Sterling or 50 acres as net worth (some women voted as inheritors). This vote restriction was employed in conjunction with a general restriction that immigrants be “…free white person(s).” Never were the “poor,” those poor in financial wealth and mental capacity, or the invading, global “huddled masses” of the French statue (apparently, the French wrote American immigration law), intended to vote. The Founders acted against dilution and the dictatorship which results from unrestricted one man, one vote democrazy – the “dictatorship of the proletariat.” One man, one vote democracy is a chimera, according to Tytler, and exists solely to facilitate the expropriation of free America by the united nations of global communism.
To Lysol drinkers everywhere:
“Eat, O friends! Drink, yes, drink deeply, O beloved ones!”
– Song of Solomon, 5:1, NKJ
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“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship.
– Alexander Fraser Tytler
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“the people are nothing but a great beast…
I have learned to hold popular opinion of no value.”
-Alexander Hamilton
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“The true reason (says Blackstone) of requiring any qualification, with regard to property in voters, is to exclude such persons, as are in so mean a situation, that they are esteemed to have no will of their own.”
“If it were probable that every man would give his vote freely, and without influence of any kind, then, upon the true theory and genuine principles of liberty, every member of the community, however poor, should have a vote… But since that can hardly be expected, in persons of indigent fortunes, or such as are under the immediate dominion of others, all popular states have been obliged to establish certain qualifications, whereby, some who are suspected to have no will of their own, are excluded from voting; in order to set other individuals, whose wills may be supposed independent, more thoroughly upon a level with each other.”
– Alexander Hamilton – The Farmer Refuted, 1775
This reminds me of a Turley post from a ways back when he worried that Trump wanted to use nukes to combat hurricanes. Good times.
Red Adair used a 550-pound charge of nitroglycerin to extinguish oil well fires.
President Trump asked an extemporaneous question in public. The answer, of course, is no, you cannot safely inject a disinfectant into the body. I don’t know what he means about introducing UV light into the body, unless he is referring to the penetration level of its wavelength or an ECMO or other bypass equipment.
You can inject an approved antibiotic or antiviral, depending on the conditions. Injecting bleach or any surface disinfectant would seriously injure or kill the patient.
Non medical people ask questions that are obviously wrong to anyone with knowledge of the matter. It’s OK to ask questions. People with such knowledge should simply answer the question, and not mock anyone for not knowing. However, President Trump needs to save such question and answer sessions for closed door meetings. Not only does he need to prevent people from hearing the question, not the answer, and then self experimenting to their detriment, but he needs to prevent exposing himself to ridicule by people with a political agenda.
He asked if there was a way to inject something inside to “clean” the body of the infection. Yes, there is, in theory. That’s what an injectable antiviral would do. It’s something that “cleans” out the infection.
Here’s what he actually said:
“So supposing we hit the body with a tremendous — whether it’s ultraviolet or just a very powerful light — and I think you said that hasn’t been checked because of the testing,” Trump said, looking at Bryan. “And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or some other way, and I think you said you’re going to test that too.”
“I see the disinfectant that knocks it out in a minute, one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning? As you see, it gets in the lungs, it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it would be interesting to check that,”
Why would any sane person in a leadership position say such stupid things?
As usual, Karen is spinning and misinterpreting what was said because what was said proves how arrogant, stupid and irresponsible Trump really is. In fact, why does he appear at all, other than for free publicity? Ironically, the more he appears, the lower his polling numbers go, because his arrogance and narcissism are on full display, and most people find him disgusting.
Trump may have heard of this. maybe he’s less crazy than you think.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29124710
Format: Abstract
Adv Exp Med Biol. 2017;996:295-309. doi: 10.1007/978-3-319-56017-5_25.
Ultraviolet Irradiation of Blood: “The Cure That Time Forgot”?
Hamblin MR1,2,3.
Author information
Abstract
Ultraviolet blood irradiation (UBI) was extensively used in the 1940s and 1950s to treat many diseases including septicemia, pneumonia, tuberculosis, arthritis, asthma and even poliomyelitis. The early studies were carried out by several physicians in USA and published in the American Journal of Surgery. However with the development of antibiotics, UBI use declined and it has now been called “the cure that time forgot”. Later studies were mostly performed by Russian workers and in other Eastern countries and the modern view in Western countries is that UBI remains highly controversial.This chapter discusses the potential of UBI as an alternative approach to current methods used to treat infections, as an immune-modulating therapy and as a method for normalizing blood parameters. No resistance of microorganisms to UV irradiation has been reported, and multi-antibiotic resistant strains are as susceptible as their wild-type counterparts. Low and mild doses of UV kill microorganisms by damaging the DNA, while any DNA damage in host cells can be rapidly repaired by DNA repair enzymes. However the use of UBI to treat septicemia cannot be solely due to UV-mediated killing of bacteria in the blood-stream, as only 5-7% of blood volume needs to be treated with UV to produce the optimum benefit. UBI may enhance the phagocytic capacity of various phagocytic cells (neutrophils and dendritic cells), inhibit lymphocytes, and oxidize blood lipids. The oxidative nature of UBI may have mechanisms in common with ozone therapy and other oxygen therapies. There may be some similarities to extracorporeal photopheresis (ECP) using psoralens and UVA irradiation. However there are differences between UBI and ECP in that UBI tends to stimulate the immune system, while ECP tends to be immunosuppressive. With the recent emergence of bacteria that are resistant to all known antibiotics, UBI should be more investigated as an alternative approach to infections, and as an immune-modulating therapy.
We may now call him President Lysol.
” I am astonished that the White House did not immediately send out a statement that the President was not suggesting the use of household disinfectants”
I heard the President make such a statement immediately after he made those mutterings aloud. He then referred everyone to the scientists and doctors and I think said I’m not a doctor or a scientist or something like that. Many crazy things have been thought of in the past and in the future became true.
He mentioned higher temperatures so maybe leftists should recognize that it would be unsafe to put themselves on broil in the oven. Then Brix spoke out indicating that perhaps the rising temperatures seen in the body might help the patient.
BWAHAHAHAHAHA! on the “broil in the oven” thing! Hilarious!
Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter
Given the number of truly imbecilic people that might believe the President is advocating ingesting or injecting disinfectants into their body, the President would need this guy to read a product/information warning after every briefing.
https://youtu.be/NeK5ZjtpO-M
Only a matter of time before a trump supporter says, he didn’t say that. And if he did, he didn’t mean that. And if he did, you didn’t understand it. And if you did, it’s not a big deal. And if it is, others have said worse. And of course the big one….It’s Obama’s fault.
Trump now claims that he was being ‘sarcastic’…
Trump’s Reign Of Madness Must End
Last week when Trump Tweeted “Liberate” to militias in 3 states that was quite arguably an act of sedition for a sitting president. Trump was undermining the health guidelines of his own administration. But more than that Trump was encouraging insurrection by rightwing militias; a fringe element with a history of violence.
Those “Liberate” Tweets should have been justification to forcibly remove Trump from office. The Secret Service would have been justified in putting Trump in a straight jacket and taking him to a military base for detention. In a normal America that would have been the outcome.
Yet now we have this moment where the president is thinking out loud at a press briefing and suggesting that a well-known household cleaner could possibly be injected. Even if Trump was only speculating this is inexcusable. This is a canary in the coal mine moment where Trump has revealed himself as totally irresponsible and unfit to command.
This pandemic is the most serious crisis this country has faced since Pear Harbor. The future of the world is at stake. We cannot afford a mad president stirring endless controversies. Trump is the general who must be cashed immediately. If we dont remove Trump at once we have essentially crossed a threshold where an obviously insane president was allowed to continue in office.
I’m sure the discussions are, and have been, taking place at the Pentagon and intelligence agencies since the early days of his term.
At the very least, just put him in Mar a Lago until he resigns in December so Pence can pardon the impending insurance fraud charges.