“Where’s The Police When You Need Them”: D.C. Delegate Asks The Right Question After Bizarre Incident Near White House

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NBC correspondent Andrea Mitchell and Delegate Eleanor Holmes Norton (D-D.C.) had a bizarre encounter yesterday when a man dressed only in a bra and panties rushed them near Black Lives Matter Square and the area claimed earlier as the “Black House Autonomous Zone.” Mitchell immediately asked “where’s the police” and Norton added “where’s the police when you need them?” It is a question that many of us have been asking D.C. officials for weeks as police have stood by and watched statues destroyed and defaced around the city.  This week, D.C. Chief of Police Peter Newsham stated that his department has made the “tactical decision” not to intervene as certain statues have been torn down in front of them. I have been highly critical of both this destruction and the failure of D.C. officials to act, including the iconic bust of George Washington on my own campus at George Washington University.

Thankfully no one was injured in this encounter:

The answer to the question however is equally troubling. Police are often around when violence and destruction occurs in these protests.

The question came up when reporters asked Newsham why officers stood around as mere pedestrians on Friday night as a mob pulled down the statue of Albert Pike in Judiciary Square. There have been good-faith calls for the removal of the statue, including by Norton.  I have participated in this debate for years on determining what public art should be removed and what standards we should apply to the preservation of historical monuments, including a discussion organized by the Smithsonian Institution a few years back.  Some monuments should be removed but this should be done with the consent and deliberation of the communities.  Indeed, such acts hold greater meaning when done through legitimate and consensual means.  This is not part of that debate, this is destruction by mobs who unilaterally determine what public art will be allowed and what will be destroyed.

After a mob was allowed to attach ropes and work to pull down the statue of Andrew Jackson, there was a belated response from federal and district officers. The statue however was defaced and was only saved from toppling by its sheer size.  Media reported that Mayor Muriel Bowser and her office declined any comment on the mob scene that was scene on every network. That was what one might call a “tactical political decision.”

The “tactical decision” made by the Newsham is a convenient and widely used approach around the country.  Leaders are allowing art to be destroyed rather than confront these mobs — not on the inherent value of the monuments but the right of society to make such decisions as a whole.  This is nothing new. Such tactical decisions have been made by universities for years as they watched their art destroyed without any action or discipline.  At the same time, police have been ordered to give mobs free range in destroying public art.  Even when arrests are made, prosecutors have dropped charges under pressure from the public. 

This same tactical decision has been made in other cities by leaders.  Just yesterday, a legislator was attacked and sent to the hospital for taking a picture of the destruction. Both journalists and pedestrians have also been attacked for filming such scenes by protesters. Democratic senator Tim Carpenter told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel that he was beaten after taking a photo last night as two statues being toppled.

The protesters tore down the statue of Col. Christian Heg, who fought and died during the Civil War on the Union side

As noted earlier, the spectrum of action from cities and universities seems to range from deafening silence to cringing compliance in the face of such destruction.  At the University of Oregon, famous statues of the Pioneer and Mother Pioneer were torn down. The University condemned the destruction and then promptly promised that the statues would be carted away and not returned.

Thus, the answer to D.C. Delegate Norton’s question is that the police is often present, but remain mere pedestrians by design.  Call it “tactical” or consensual, but destruction of public art and historical monuments is occurring with the acquiescence of the city leaders.

273 thoughts on ““Where’s The Police When You Need Them”: D.C. Delegate Asks The Right Question After Bizarre Incident Near White House”

  1. JT: “This week, D.C. Chief of Police Peter Newsham stated that his department has made the “tactical decision” not to intervene as certain statues have been torn down in front of them.”

    USA Today(15mins ago): “National Guard troops(unarmed) have been deployed in the nation’s capital to guard monuments and infrastructure amid protests over racial injustice and some demonstrators’ attempts to pull down statues.”

    It’s about time.

  2. Meanwhile:

    President Trump’s tariffs on imports — meant to boost the economy — ultimately led to job losses and higher prices, a new study from the Federal Reserve has found.

    “We find that tariff increases enacted in 2018 are associated with relative reductions in manufacturing employment and relative increases in producer prices,” the report by Fed economists Aaron Flaaen and Justin Pierce reads.

    MarketWatch first reported the study, noting that 10 primary industries were hit by retaliatory tariffs and higher prices, including producers of magnetic and optical media, leather goods, aluminum sheet, iron and steel, motor vehicles, household appliances, sawmills, audio and video equipment, pesticide, and computer equipment….”


    1. Accepting the paper as written without any review of the details and calculations, one has to think further than the tip of one’s nose. Admittedly Anon’s Pinocchio styled nose is further away than most but not far enough to see the forest through the trees.

      What the article focussed on was short term effects rather than long term effects. It did not focus on reducing the trade tensions and problems that have existed for years without any sign of disappearing. It also didn’t deal with time. All sorts of things happen with time. As just one example tariffs are adjusted when those problems creating the trade tensions disappear and all the numbers change. The authors of the study admitted that the study was NOT intended to consider long term trade policy.

      Small minds think in short terms while never thinking of long term effects.

      1. What the article focused on was short term effects rather than long term effects.

        Small minds think in 2, 4 and 6 year increments. Politicians and their constituents have become addicted to WIIFM policies that have real long- term negative consequences. How else do you explain a Congress, with a consistent approval rating in the teens, getting reelected at rate in the 90’s. Can you imagine what kind of chaos this country would see if all these liberal cities decided to reverse course and enact policies that were for the long-term benefit of their constituents, instead of the short-term fixes they bait their constituents with to get reelected?

      1. Tried to link directly to the July delivery chart, seems problematic. Just click on the ‘charts’ button on the daily price quote page.

  3. BLM, Antifa, the left, and the Taliban all have something in common. We see it nightly on our TV screens and the nuts don’t seem able to put 2+2 together.

  4. “Mitchell immediately asked “where’s the police” and Norton added “where’s the police when you need them?” “

    This tells the story in a nutshell. Protection for me but not for thee.


  5. Orders or no, if I were a cop right now, I wouldn’t be intervening in crap. The only calls I’d even consider taking would be to support another cop in trouble.

    What if the cops did intervene in a “statue felling” and tried to stop it? What if the “peaceful protesters” resisted, threw things at the cops, attacked them? What if a some of the protestors grabbed a cop and started fighting him? What if they wrestled a gun away…or even if some of the protesters were armed from the jump? What if the cops had to defend themselves and one of the protesters was killed or seriously injured?

    Based on what just happened in Atlanta, the cops would be fired immediately and charged with crimes within days.

    The message we’re sending to cops right now is that we don’t want them to try to arrest people, we don’t want them to enforce the laws and we don’t want them to protect us (or our statues). We’re telling them by our actions that what we’re paying them to do is wear the uniform and stand around doing nothing.

    So that’s what they’re doing. That’s exactly what I’d be doing too. Why anyone is surprised by this is flat amazing to me.

  6. And another thing! You know all this BeeEss about what White people are supposed to do to address “The Problem.” I don’t hear diddly-squat about what black people are supposed to do to address “The Problem.” Which is bizarre is because they are the ones with the problem. It’s like you have the family of a drunk alcoholic discussing Uncle Bob’s “Problem”, but nobody goes to Uncle Bob and says, “Uncle Bob, you are an alcoholic, and you need to get into rehab and quit drinking.” Nope. Lots of discussions about the proper diet for cirrhosis of the liver, but nobody ever comes out and says, “Uncle Bob, YOU have a problem and YOU are the only person who can fix it.”

    Which means the problem NEVER gets fixed.

    Squeeky Fromm
    Girl Reporter

    1. I discovered a literature review which included data on post-mortem blood levels of various opioid in cases of overdose deaths. Among the data presented was one drawn from a set of 207 cases where fentanyl was discovered in the system. The mean level of fentanyl in these cases was 11 nanograms per millileter in femoral blood. The Hennepin County coroner’s report on George Floyd is available online. They report the level of fentanyl in his femoral blood was…11 ng / mL They also report he had ‘severe’ coronary artery disease (and, of course, three other drugs in his system, among them meth). And, of course, his trachea was uninjured. We’ve had this madness in response to what we have every reason to believe was an overdose death.

      1. I saw that reported earlier. If it was the same article that 11ng level was WITHOUT any other illegal substances IIRC. And Floyd had meth, morphine, and pot in his system too.

        Plus, you talk a lot about statistics and cohorts, so I am reading this book, Intellectuals and Society by Thomas Sowell. I am 20% thru it, but it seems like the kind of book you would like.

        Squeeky Fromm
        Girl Reporter

      2. absurd– very interesting. Do you know whether fentanyl was the cause of death in these cases or a contributing cause? Although I imagine Floyd’s size might take him out of the averages, the other drugs in his system together with severe heart disease and no damage to his trachea will make this case a prosecutor’s nightmare.

        1. honestlawyer – since he was found to have CV-19 the death HAS to be listed with CV-19 as the cause of death and the officers let off.

            1. honestlawyer – I did hear that Court TV was coming back some hopefully they will broadcast it. However, finding a jury is going to be a problem. Maybe they will have to try it in Bemidji.

        2. Much depends on whether Mr. Floyd was opioid tolerant. Fentanyl abusers can tolerate much larger doses of fentanyl than opioid naïve people who’ve never had the drug.

          1. Again, the case reports that were the basis of the article were autopsies of people who had died overdose deaths. The femoral blood level of 11 nanograms per cc was the average in a set of 207 corpses. Yes, it’s a lethal dose.

      3. Chauvin was kneeling on his Floyd’s neck and compressing one of his carotid arteries, so it’s not a surprise that his trachea was uninjured.

        It wasn’t the drugs or coronary artery disease that killed him — though he might have died of those things at some point.

        We know exactly what happened: Chauvin killed him.

        1. No you don’t. You just ASSUME the cops killed him because that is the story you NEED and WANT to believe. You are mentally ill.

          Squeeky Fromm
          Girl Reporter

          1. Squeeky – after much thought, I have narrowed the actual causes ot death to Floyd to 3 direct causes.

            1. Four police officers sat on him crushing the breath from him as a group of people watch at film them.

            2. He had a stroke/heart attack brought on by drug use.

            3. He died of Chicom virus.

            Now, since all deaths were CV-19 is involved are required to be declared CV-19 deaths, then it has to be 3. However, 3 is a bureaucratic decision. Watching all the available tape and citizen video, it appears that Floyd had a stroke or heart attack when he rounded the passenger side of the SUV. He was non-cooperative after that and the officers thought (for some reason that we do not know) that he was on Fentynal. So, 2 is pretty solid. 1 looks less solid as you watch the tape and you see them calling for and ambulance and EMT, plus deciding he was best laying on his stomach. Chauvin’s weight appears to be more on his left leg then on his right.

            Therefore, at this point in time, and until more information comes out, I am going with position 2.

        2. You need to repeat your basic anatomy class. The Carotid arteries are in the front quadrants of the neck to the left and right of the trachea, Chauvin’s knee was on the rear right quadrant of Floyd’s neck, nowhere near either Carotid artery.

          The correctness of a position that is not supported by the evidence is not strengthened by the confidence of the presentation.

          Claiming “We know exactly what color the sky is: Green” Doesn’t make the sky any less blue.

        3. We don’t know exactly what happened to Floyd. He had Covid-19. He had high blood levels of fentanyl and other drugs of abuse. And he had some narrowing of the coronary arteries. Chauvin may be found liable for Floyd’s death if the proximal cause of death was a coronary infarct, because a large percentage of the older American populace has some degree of coronary artery disease. But the drugs of abuse in Floyd’s system weren’t administered by Chauvin – they were self-administered. I don’t know what that changes in Minnesota law, but I’d be willing to bet that the presence of illicit drugs in Floyd’s system reduce Chauvin’s legal liability for Floyd’s death. He may be looking at manslaughter, not murder charges.

          1. The coroner describes his coronary artery disease as ‘severe’, not as ‘some degree’. The fentanyl blood levels are characteristic of a fatal overdose. Chauvin did not compress his trachea and none of the others were actively restraining him. The indictment of him is political, and any conviction entered will be political. We have every reason to believe that if Floyd had left the premises before the police arrived and eluded them for a half-hour, he’d eventually have been located dead on the sidewalk.

  7. Police have been ordered to stand down by the oligarchic owners of “elected” officials. This is all part of a larger plan to destroy our society, in part by destroying this nation’s history (the bad and the good).

    I can tell you that if protesters enter the Fed, the private army the Fed has commissioned for itself as it loots our nation of 91 trillion dollars (and counting), would shoot protesters dead. If you didn’t know that the Fed has bought a private army, now you do and it’s past time to think about the implications of that action on their part.

    If protesters went to an Amazon warehouse to protest the slave like conditions of their workers or, instead of partnering with Nike, protested their slave labor camps, which include children, overseas, protesters would be confronted with a level of violence not yet seen. Try to protest silicon valley. If you do these things, where actual slavery is being committed on child and adult workers as well as mass surveillance and control of our civilian population, you are going to see who really owns this nation. You will also see how vicious and well armed they are.

    While I believe that many of the protesters who came out against the murder of George Floyd and other police murders were sincere (and some still are), there is obviously mass governmental/private infiltration into these groups paid for by the oligarchy. It’s why you see police forces attacking sincere people but ignoring destruction of cultural heritage.

    Here’s some info on Fed. looting. And please note, this kind of looting isn’t being stopped by the police nor is it being prosecuted by the “justice” system:


  8. JT writes:

    ” Some monuments should be removed but this should be done with the consent and deliberation of the communities. Indeed, such acts hold greater meaning when done through legitimate and consensual means. This is not part of that debate, this is destruction by mobs who unilaterally determine what public art will be allowed and what will be destroyed.”

    I agree and if not an emergency tactical decision, policy should be to protect this public property.

    1. Agreed. Although that often means going through some board where members are on their phones internet shopping wondering why victims of slavery just can’t get over slavery and Jews can’t get over the Holocaust. Still, those statues shouldn’t be just tugged over. They are works of art, however rationalized.

      Meanwhile in other news, death cult gathering in Arizona and wholesale rejection of Barr’s obstruction at his alma mater.

      1. Having a President publicly and regularly sabotage his own administration’s guidelines for the virus is a challenge. Gee, I hope he doesn’t get it, though notice the distance he keeps on stage.

      2. There are no living victims of slavery, which was abolished over a century and a half ago.

    2. Oh really! Your tiny qualification is not very impressive after a solid month of rioting and destruction brought on by your friends.

    3. I would argue that monuments have relevancy beyond the immediate community. The Lincoln Memorial or the Washington Monument are revered by all Americans. To move against them would be a crime against all of us.

  9. A listener to a radio talk show said it most accurately, during the aftermath of the trial that exonerated the police thugs that beat Rodney King. A truck drive, Reginald Denny, was beaten almost to death and robbed by Blacks who were more interested in robbing him than retribution. It was a madness of the same sort as was illustrated by the cops that beat King senseless, while he was down and incapacitated. It’s the pendulum that swings to both sides. The listener simply said that America should see it as payback and get used to it for a while. Hundreds of years of slavery, endless broken promises, thousands of murders, and continuing insults are not washed away by protests only. Change does not happen in one or two generations. Perhaps when White America collectively and thoroughly accepts and shoulders the responsibility for this chaos, steam will be released and the anger vented. Perhaps that’s why the police are standing back. To go in and ‘lay down the law’ however correct theoretically, would only make it worse. America is a better place today because of the civil rights protests and the protests against the criminal war in Vietnam. America wouldn’t be a better place if this was all left to change by the rules. America’s greatest core characteristic, however one perceives it, is that it came into being via its greatest protest, the Revolutionary War and it abolished slavery with another protest, the Civil War. There will always be the obtuse that paint the whole with the actions of the mad few anarchists. A lot of that on this blog.

    1. Issac,
      A juxtaposition.

      “Perhaps when White America collectively and thoroughly accepts and shoulders the responsibility for this chaos, steam will be released and the anger vented.”

      “There will always be the obtuse that paint the whole with the actions of the mad few anarchists.”

      Res ipsa loquitor.

      Resentment and vindictiveness would not be cured by the demoralizing of another.

      1. Regardless of the economic, political, social, whatever station in this American life, no Black is without some degree of resentment. It only takes a split second to review the history of this country. Along with that resentment often comes hope, salvation, etc for what has been achieved and for what will be achieved. However, this unique American saga is still unfolding and even though it is diminishing in its shame and resentment, it is not over. Vindictiveness knows no racial boundaries. It can be now seen on this blog. Vindictiveness is anger, is steam, is being the recipient of oppression, and recently there has been a venting of our collective spleen, peculiar to us. It’s not something that can be regulated, as was the cause for centuries. Acknowledging the truths of the past and the obligations of the future is not demoralizing. It is moralizing.

        1. Issac,
          I absolutely disagree with your defense of resentment. For one, you cannot know the heart of every black person. That’s a bit presumptuous.

          Resentment is poisonous to hope. Resentment festers when an individual does not maturely work to effect positive change in their life, when they blame others for all their ills instead of seeing what part, even if it is small, in their unhappiness.

          Salvation is an odd word to try to link to resentment, as if someone is going to swoop in and intervene and save one who is helpless.

          Vindictiveness is not simply anger. It, too, is poisonous. It is different than anger; it is cruelty and spite and destructiveness. It will not heal past wounds; it will deepen old ones and create new ones.

          What obligations are you thinking of???

    2. “Perhaps when White America collectively and thoroughly accepts and shoulders the responsibility for this chaos.” I DID NOT create this chaos and refuse to take responsibility.

    3. Issac:

      I see your point, but what you are essentially advocating is a little payback for previous harms.

      That works as far as it goes, but what happens when the payback receives its own payback?

      Look at the example of the Serbs, who are still avenging their defeat at the Battle of Kosovo in 1389.

      Time to look forward and fix things rather than tolerate childish tantrums (and hold everybody to the same standard, rather than show bigotry by saying that certain groups should be indulged).

      1. “Time to look forward and fix things…”

        It is because “things” never get fixed that we are where we are.

        1. Of course they are and we do. If you don’t recognize progress since the 1950’s, you’re not looking very hard.

          1. Of course we’ve seen progress, but actually fixing things is another ballgame.

            Americans have been, by and large, complacent and much too comfortable. What we’re seeing now is the result and it shouldn’t surprise anyone who has been paying attention.

      2. monum….

        There are examples of similar situations that seem never to be resolved. The Irish ‘troubles’ seemed to go on forever. Now with the possibility of a redefining of the border between Ireland and the North, these fears surface again. The primary cause for the Irish ‘troubles’ was economic. In Northern Ireland the Catholics were kept at an economic disadvantage. All the Orange parades and other stuff just rubbed it in. The root of most inequality is economic. The extremist expressions such as is seen with religious nonsense is just that, expressions, not the cause.

        The same is true with the White/Black situation in the US. Words have been said, laws have been changed; in theory all is now equal and Blacks should stop complaining, pull up their socks, and get on with it. However, as you pointed out with Serbia, centuries of persecution is not forgotten so easily. That’s my point. Just as Blacks who want it all without working for it and take to the fringe with perverse justification, create impediments to their own cause; Whites that fail to acknowledge that words written on paper alone do not rectify centuries of accumulated pain, mistrust, and hatred, do not contribute to evolving this situation in the right direction. Part of the solution is targeting on an unrelenting basis the inequities. When that is not done, the steam builds and the past month is the result. Contained in this very messy past few weeks of protesting was a very positive and very necessary bit of fine tuning. The police will hopefully not become more oppressive but better trained. Only statistics will tell.

        Accepting that there is an ingredient of payback in this equation is not the answer alone but it does help with the most important ingredient, understanding and acknowledgement. That is an inherited responsibility for all, even if they had nothing to do with the cause.

        1. Isaac belches out his flawed thinking again. In effect you are saying the cause of Irish terrorism was the UK.

          Not the centuries ago exploitations, which we can all admit, but the mild policy of the UK towards its very own sovereign territory in the northern counties.

          No actually the troubles were caused by anarchist and well funded terrorists. Ireland should thank the UK for its patience over the past 70 years and for actually bringing economic development.

          Come to think of it, the BLM rioters and so forth, should be thanking the police instead of attacking them.

      3. I’ve heard the figure of $14 trillion as possible restitution. But somehow I don’t think that will be enough.

    4. Why is it that black leaders have no trouble accepting the benefits of racism (affirmative action, opportunity zones, social promotions, etc.) while claiming they are morally outraged by it? Who is the real enemy of black America? The person who expects you to stand on your own feet like everyone else and be rewarded or punished accordingly, or the person who believes you are incapable of that and so makes excuses for your lack of progress and gives you handouts instead?

      1. Honest, judging by your fixation on attacking blacks here, you seem part of their “real enemy”. Do you think you need answer for whites?

      2. honest, that’s about what i heard Farrakhan saying about Jesse Jackson in a clip i saw yesterday from about 20 years ago. On the dais was also Mad Maxine and she was obviously in Calypso Louie’s sights too. Man, I know he think’s I’m a devil, but that guy really nails it sometimes.

        1. Mr. Kurtz– it speaks well for you that you have the maturity to listen to a Farrakhan clip. There are some people who carry so much baggage that my ears cannot hear them and he is one.

    5. “Perhaps when White America collectively and thoroughly accepts and shoulders the responsibility for this chaos, steam will be released and the anger vented. ”

      GFY! I ain’t taking responsibility for black IRRESPONSIBILITY. If blacks want to change the way they live, then they need to change the way they live. No more baby daddies and baby mommas. Get married and raise kids the right way. Make their heathen spawn go to school and do their homework like everybody else, instead of acting like monkeys in class.

      The ONLY chaos us White folks are causing is refusing to call a spade a spade and putting the onus for black failure right back on them. Sooo, if you want to grovel and apologize to them, then do it. But you leave this White girl out of your apology tour. This is 2020, not 1850. Time for blacks to grow up!

      Squeeky Fromm
      Girl Reporter

    6. There is no excuse for violent protests and destruction of property , public or private. Not only is it not warranted and options for recourse available, but it is stupid and counterproductive. In many of these scenes, the majority are not even black, and coincidentally are barely out of high school. We don’t leave our major political decisions to wet behind the ears kids with nothing else to do.

    7. Issac, what you say might be a legitimate argument if one doesn’t believe in the law. A belief in law and order can not be turned on and off like a light switch.

      America may a better place because of protests during the Vietnam war, but it is not a better place due to spitting on kids returning from a war. America is also not a better place because of arson attacks, killings and other violent acts. I don’t know where you get these ideas.

  10. Odd spelling. The article here says something was “scene”. The spelling should be “seen”.
    The error yells me that the writer Mr. Turley might not be typing bit I’d talking into a device which prints the words.

  11. I can’t stand the utter hypocrisy. A reporter and congressperson has protection while 25 were killed in riots they endorsed… while hundreds of milllions of dollars of property were destroyed by their Democrat allies. She is exactly the kind of politician you have to despise – one who doesn’t realize she’s a public servant but think’s she’s an entitled public master The police are too busy to help her when the citizens she’s supposed to be serving are being ruined. The answer to her question of where are the police when you need them should be where are the American public and honorable people when the police need them. Or maybe the answer from police is if you stand with those who spew incite violence, screech hateful words, and harm police, I can’t get to you to help you because you’ve blocked me. Don’t call us … we’ll call you.

  12. Tactical decision is an excuse to exert dictatorial power. Removal of statues should be a decision made by the City Council after discussions with the citizenry or by voting. They are pretending like it’s all the mob’s fault when really the fault lies with them.

    They are not abiding their sworn duty to defend and uphold the rule of law. We the people are guilty, too, if we do nothing.

  13. Cops lose moral authority when they pick and choose which crimes to enforce.

    Criminality becomes a lottery not a regulated society.

    That said, I have no sympathy for either Norton or Mitchell; they were both vocal in their support of previous crimes.

  14. How far the dems have fallen. on July 2, 2010, every democratic figurehead from Obama, Biden, both Clintons gloriously eulogized ex Klu Klux Klansman Sen Robert C Byrd. His casket was in the Capitol rotunda. Today, Teddy Roosevelt is declared a racist, although in 1901 he invited his friend, Booker T Washington, to the Whitehouse for dinner, the first African American to be invited. Roosevelt was vilified the rest of his life by southern democrats.

    1. Byrd renounced his Klan past a long ago.

      TR is not the subject of the controversy at the NYC Museum of Natural History, but the statute which glorifies him at the expense of his indian and black footmen.

      1. It’s not a zero sum game. Would you dismantle National Parks, too?

      2. Under today’s standards, Byrd would be out. Renouncing, apologizing, groveling, kneeling — nothing matters. Just give in to the mob..

          1. BTB, give me a break! Of course we have elections. We have laws too, but they don’t seem to count any more. Mobs rule.

            1. So DV, are you expecting ant senators to step down due to mobs? Which ones?

      3. Yeah, and America renounced slavery in December of 1865 IIRC, sooo why are we still hearing about that???

        Squeeky Fromm
        Girl Reporter

      4. So what? All Democrats changed their tune: on slavery; Jim Crow laws; segregation; they voted against the 13th,14th, 15th, 19th Amendments; blocked almost all major civil rights bills; Democrats founded the KKK; Democrats blocked the “Anti-Lynching” bill in 1922; Lynchings began skyrocketing after Democrats gained control of the South through state legislatures in the 1880s; the longest filibuster in Senate history was 18 Dems + 1 Rep trying stop the ’64 Civil Rights Act and even Al Gore’s father tried to submit it to Committee for further review and quashing but was stopped; etc., etc.

        Your ilk are tearing down statues for their association to the slavery of blacks, so the historical association is relevant and Byrd’s past is also relevant. But why has the Democratic Party been immune from this violent rebuke when it was the organization of this egregious embarrassment for the nation? What about Biden proudly proclaiming that his state supported the Confederacy? Why is history not important for Democrats when convenient?

        1. CR Act of 1964 vote by region and party:

          The House of Representatives:[27]

          Southern Democrats: 7–87 (7–93%) (four Representatives from Texas, two from Tennessee and Claude Pepper of Florida voted in favor)
          Southern Republicans: 0–10 (0–100%)
          Northern Democrats: 145–9 (94–6%)
          Northern Republicans: 138–24 (85–15%)

          The Senate:[27]

          Southern Democrats: 1–20 (5–95%) (only Ralph Yarborough of Texas voted in favor)
          Southern Republicans: 0–1 (0–100%) (John Tower of Texas)
          Northern Democrats: 45–1 (98–2%) (only Robert Byrd of West Virginia voted against)
          Northern Republicans: 27–5 (84–16%)

          There are no more southern Democrats.

    2. Gosh I wish you guys would lay off Robert Byrd. He was a man of the people, a servant of West Virginia, and in the US, an under-appreciated wise statesman for our nation. He denounced the war on Iraq when everyone else was rushing into the fray.


      and all the time kkk. Please, wake up., the kkk is at this time an irrelevant bogeyman, remembered only by people flogging a dead horse like this, and the SPLC raising money from gullibe donors.

      You are not scoring points with this. Trust me, Byrd would not be out there egging on BLM these days, were he yet alive. Don’t spit on his memory.

  15. “Racial equality” has never been something the government can deliver. All the government can do is promise and deliver equal opportunity for all races and ethnic groups. What people do with that equal opportunity is up to them. Far too many people, including those whose deaths triggered riots, looting, burning and even killing, chose to squander those opportunities. The dead men preferred lives of crime. Instead of asking “where’s the police,” Mitchell should be asking why the losers around her have been allowed to seize control of and destroy public property. Of course the answer is that Mitchell and her fellow travelers in the so-called press, democrat politicians, and deep state holdovers have spent the last three and one-half years tearing down our institutions and values. Now we all are paying the price.

  16. Aren’t you going to comment, good professor, upon the letter the great majority of your fellow GWU faculty signed yesterday condemning your friend AG Barr for his misfeasance in office upon which your signature was conspicuously absent? Nothing at all?

    1. I’m going to guess it’s still too painful and raw? Probably caught between Barr asking for help in image repair and knowing this situation is bad. Kind of like when your friend wrecks the car while drunk and then asks you to cover up for it.

  17. Revolutions often look like an unruly mob at the time. Our founding fathers were an unruly mob. The people who tore down Saddam Hussein’s statue were an unruly mob.

    Our governmental system at this point over represents while males who think like Mr. Turley. That means a lot of things the people think should be done are not done. Hence this revolution we are seeing.

    1. The system is not over-represented by people who think like Professor Turley. He’s sensible. Classical liberals are in very short supply on the Hill.

    2. That means a lot of things the people think should be done are not done. Hence this revolution we are seeing.

      If you’re trying to equate whatever grievances this unruly mob has to those of our founding generation, then all you’re doing is highlighting what an epic failure our education system has been. There would have been no revolution had the British maintained their unwritten policy of salutary neglect. The colonists didn’t loot the tea cargo and take it home. Even when the cops (British soldiers) killed Boston protesters, the soldiers were still given a fair trial and were represented by Adams.

      The unruly lot of today has nothing in common with our founding generation. They even make the Taliban and ISIS, with all their death and destruction, appear principled. They may have some legitimate grievances, but they have no idea of the root cause. Ironically, they’re being played by the very folks that instituted the destructive policies. I doubt there would be any safe spaces for the Democratic party if these folks ever connected the dots. So for now, this mob has no principled purpose other than chaos and destruction.

  18. It’s Ok for her to have police protection, but not somebody who has a small business that gets looted and burned out!

    1. @independent bob

      The independent business owner is probably a beneficiary of white privilege and deserves to be looted and burned. Norton is a POC and a victim. Can’t believe you don’t know this.



      1. The independent business owner is probably a beneficiary of white privilege and deserves to be looted and burned.

        How do you reconcile the targeted looting and burning of non-white owned businesses?

  19. That reply from Norton. What a smug leftist is she. “Where are the cops when you need them”?

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