“Delay the Election”: Trump Fuels New Questions Over The Holding Of The Presidential Election

donald_trump_president-elect_portrait_croppedWe previously discussed a conspiracy theory from Vice President Joe Biden that President Donald Trump could unilaterally cancel or delay the election day.  We then dealt with a baffling statement by Jared Kushner that it was too soon to tell if the election day would be delayed — a statement that was as politically unwise as it was legally unsound. Now, President Donald Trump is fueling this controversy with a bizarre tweet that we may need to delay the election day. He is not suggesting that he can do it unilaterally, but it is another statement at odds with the constitutional and statutory foundation for the election day schedule.  Even if Congress agreed to a different day, it would only move voting a few weeks later. Anything more would require pulling up our controlling law root and branch.

Trump tweeted today that “With Universal Mail-In Voting (not Absentee Voting, which is good), 2020 will be the most INACCURATE & FRAUDULENT Election in history. It will be a great embarrassment to the USA. Delay the Election until people can properly, securely and safely vote???”

President Donald Trump suggested delaying the November election until 'people can properly, securely and safely vote'

President Donald Trump suggested delaying the November election until ‘people can properly, securely and safely vote’

This claim has become the monkey’s paw of election theories — passed from one person to another and from one party to another with the same harmful consequences.  It makes all of its holders look ridiculous.

Trump does not state, as suggested by Biden, that he could unilaterally stop the election. Indeed, that is impossible. While any president can try to do anything, such a move would be quickly prevented by the Courts. Trump could also seek to barricade himself in his office or change his name to Joseph Biden if he lost. But none of that would make any difference. As stated in my earlier column, it does not matter what Trump may desire, it is a matter of what the Constitution would allow. As I said with regard to Biden, any such claim would need the approval of both houses (which is virtually impossible in the current Congress) and would only add a short period of additional time. However, even the suggestion of a delay of the election with the consent of Congress is as unlikely as it is unwarranted.

The Constitution mandates that President Trump’s term will end on January 20th.  Period. Thus, even if Congress were to collectively lose control of its senses and change the date for the election, it would gain only a few weeks — unless you want to quickly rewrite the Constitution as well.

There is a suspicion that this bombshell tweet was an effort to distract from the unsettling report that our GDP plummeted by almost 33 percent.  However, this is not a trivial shining object to toss into the national debate. It is casting doubt on the holding of one of the most consequential elections in history.

Our laws are designed to remove such doubts and assure voters that our elections will be held in a regular order.

The date of the election has been set since 1845 by Congress and it is statutorily set as statutorily set as “the Tuesday next after the first Monday in the month of November.”

Again, any substantial delay in the election would also collide with the 20th Amendment, which extinguishes the power of the prior president at noon on January 20. Even if Trump persuaded Congress to delay the election past that date, his term still constitutionally ends on that date unless he is reelected.

There is actually a relatively short period between election day to get much done.  Under 3 U.S.C. §7:

The electors of President and Vice President of each State shall meet and give their votes on the first Monday after the second Wednesday in December next following their appointment at such place in each State as the legislature of such State shall direct.

Those votes must then be certified, submitted to Congress and counted by the first week of January.

Thus, the window is actually quite short. Even if Congress were to fiddle with these dates, it still has a hard stop on January 20.  The most that could be gained from this traumatic level of change would be a couple of weeks.

I have no idea why both parties remain obsessed with this idea. It is akin to constitutional quackery.

We have an election on November 3.  Count on it.

This tweet will also likely rekindle another alarmist theory that Trump may refuse to accept the outcome of the election in an effective coup. President Trump has the right to challenge the results of any given state as was the case in Bush v. Gore.  However, these challenges occur in a rigid time frame.  Again, electoral votes are certify and given to Congress. The election date will occur on November 3, 2020.  The state electors will cast their votes on the second Wednesday of December and those results are submitted to Congress and counted in the first week of January.

There is time for expedited challenges and Congress can address contested results from a given state.  The nightmare scenario is lingering litigation over the validity of electoral votes by Inauguration Day in January.  The Supreme Court sought to avoid that scenario in Bush v. Gore by effectively short circuiting further appeals in Florida.  However, it was ultimately shown that Al Gore likely won Florida, but it did not matter due to the acceptance of the electoral votes by Congress.  Notably, Democrats were enthusiastically supporting further challenges at the time. Thus, there is a certain hypocrisy in the current alarm expressed by Democratic leaders who pushed for challenges in the 2000 election.

What cannot happen is a President unilaterally refusing to accept the results. It is not up to President Trump and the country does not have to satisfy him that he has lost. Absent a court order enjoining or altering a tabulation, the acceptance of the electoral votes by Congress will effectively end the matter.  The Secret Service on Inauguration Day is under the direction of the new president. Upon the oath of office taken by any successor, President Trump becomes a guest in the White House. If he remains, he becomes an unwelcomed guest.  If he refuses to leave, he becomes an arrested guest.

So, here is the long and short of it.  On November 3, we will have an election. On January 20th, we will have either a new or reelected president. In other words, we would be better served focusing on who that should be than occupying ourselves with these baseless theories.

314 thoughts on ““Delay the Election”: Trump Fuels New Questions Over The Holding Of The Presidential Election”

  1. Steven Calabresi, co-founder of the Federalist Society, called President Trump’s suggestion to delay the November election “fascistic” and grounds for the president’s impeachment, in a New York Times op-ed on Thursday.

    Why it matters: The Federalist Society is an extremely influential conservative and libertarian organization that advocates for a text-based and originalist interpretation of the U.S. Constitution. Calabresi said he voted for Trump in 2016 and defended the president during the Mueller investigation and impeachment trials.

    What he’s saying: “I am frankly appalled by the president’s recent tweet seeking to postpone the November election. Until recently, I had taken as political hyperbole the Democrats’ assertion that President Trump is a fascist,” Calabresi wrote.

    “But this latest tweet is fascistic and is itself grounds for the president’s immediate impeachment again by the House of Representatives and his removal from office by the Senate.”


    1. Steven Calabresi supports the election of Joe Biden and the full, irrevocable imposition of communism in the Untied States of America.

      Sounds about right.

  2. Trump’s War On Mail-In Ballots..

    Sends Confusing Signals To Republicans

    While Democrats have tried to expand access to voting by mail, Republicans have struggled with what to tell their voters. Some have pushed for it, while Trump and his allies at the Republican National Committee have tried to limit expansion of remote voting.

    Increasingly, GOP operatives and officials are voicing their concerns with that strategy. “Why give Democrats 10 or 11 days to vote and expect Republicans to vote on one day?” asked Rohn Bishop, Republican Party chair in Fond du Lac County, Wis. “It puts us at a disadvantage.”

    Trump has called mail-in ballots “corrupt” and “substantially fraudulent,” even though the five states that now send ballots to all voters have had no signs of substantial fraud. Despite the president’s objections, numerous states have loosened restrictions on voting by mail amid the pandemic.

    Trump’s own campaign isn’t heeding his warning. It continues to encourage its voters to sign up for mail ballots when possible — even as the RNC is fighting in court against Democratic efforts to further expand mail-in voting and issuing statements like one last week saying the expansion has led “to delays, disaster and dysfunction.”

    Edited From: “Here’s How Trump’s Opposition To Mail In Voting Hurts The GOP

    The L.A. Times, 7/28/20


      News coverage this week has called attention again to Trump’s efforts to sabotage the U.S. Post Office. Trump is so afraid of mail-in ballots, he actually wants the Post Office to fail! This effort and Trump’s threat today totally validate The Mueller Probe and Impeachment Thrust. Trump is a morally bankrupt narcissistic sociopath. No Fortune 500 Company would retain a CEO as irresponsible as Donald Trump.

  3. Hey Allan. We know these Democrat cheerleaders here don’t care about facts. They say “prove it” and then you do. Then they ignore and repeat the same falsehoods a couple days later.

  4. Scanning parts of the responses to this thread I see no one talking about the President’s tweet to delay the election.

    It was, IMO, a brilliant move. The press doesn’t cover what he has to say so he makes the press cover those things he wants covered.

    Mail in ballots are crazy and open to tremendous fraud. In essence what the President is saying and perhaps now will have wider interest is that the democrats want mail in ballots instead of people going to the polls or getting an absentee ballot. He reframed the entire argument. Mail in ballots will lead to fraud and could delay the results for months opening up the possibility of fraud and questions about the election along with delays that could cause the winner to be delayed in taking office. He adds, the election should take place without mail in ballots on the date intended. He doesn’t want delay or fraud.

  5. “With Universal Mail-In Voting (not Absentee Voting, which is good), 2020 will be the most INACCURATE & FRAUDULENT Election in history. …”

    Trump is an imbecile.

    Absentee voting IS mail-in voting.

    Trump likes mail-in voting when it’s used by Republicans but dislikes it when it’s used by Democrats. It’s not prone to fraud, though there is some inaccuracy due to ballots being thrown out because they arrive too late by mail. We could address that if there were the will to do it.

    Trump is implying that COVID-19 will continue to cause serious health concerns through November (the primary reason for increased use of voting by mail), all while arguing that schools and businesses should reopen because it’s safe. He doesn’t care that his beliefs conflict.

    Herman Cain died of COVID-19 today after denying it’s seriousness. Prior to that Tulsa rally, President Trump said in a WSJ interview that some people may catch coronavirus at the rally, but “it’s a very small percentage.” Maybe Cain became infected there. I’m sure that it comforts Cain’s family and friends that Trump downplayed the concern.

    Louie Gohmert tested positive yesterday and has been refusing to wear a mask (and word is that he also wouldn’t let his staffers wear masks). He has exposed his staffers, he exposed fellow Reps., he exposed A.G. Barr, …

    Trump has failed the country. If he’d acted wisely throughout the pandemic, it would have saved many lives, saved many people from longterm health and economic problems, … AND would have served him better politically. His reelection likely would have been certain if he’d done a good job with the coronavirus. But he’s incapable of it.

    I sure hope he’s soundly defeated in Nov.

    1. Responses from some Republicans:

      Sen. McConnell: “Never in the history of the country, through wars and depressions and the Civil War, have we ever not had a federally scheduled election on time, and we’ll find a way to do that again this November 3.”

      Sen. Grassley: “It doesn’t matter what one individual in this country says, we still are a country based on the rule of law and we want to follow the law until either the Constitution is changed or until the law is changed.”

      Gov. Chris Sununu: “Make no mistake: the election will happen in New Hampshire on November 3rd. End of story. Our voting system in NH is secure, safe, and reliable. We have done it right 100% of the time for 100 years – this year will be no different.”

      Sen. Graham: “I don’t believe we should delay the elections.”

      Sen. Rubio: “it’s not going to change: We are going to have an election in November.”

      Sen. Cruz: “No, we should not delay the election.”

      Rep. McCarthy: “Never in the history of the federal elections have we ever not held an election and we should go forward with our election.”

      Rep. Mitchell: “I am dropping off my primary election ballot today. I feel safe and secure in doing so. ⁦@realDonaldTrump⁩ – no reason to mess with our election date.”

      And I think we all know that Democrats don’t support Trump on this.

      1. of course we will have the election on time. he’s just trolling you,. you must understand that since you troll Republicans here all the time. sauce for the goose

    2. BTW, just to be clear, the GOP encourages use of mail in ballots. Apparently the Trump campaign does too:
      “The Pennsylvania Republican Party’s website, for example, includes a page dominated by a visual that reads, ‘Vote Safe: By mail. From home.’ The page explains why voting by mail is safe and that getting a ballot sent to their home ‘is easy.’ The efforts are in concert with the Trump campaign, which asked state parties to encourage voters to request mail ballots, party leaders in Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin confirmed. ”
      (from an article that precedes Trump’s tweet today: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/07/25/republicans-have-donald-trump-problem-they-push-mail-voting-base/5452373002/ )

      Trump has voted by mail.
      Pence has voted by mail.
      Ivanka Trump has voted by mail.
      Jared Kushner has voted by mail.
      Kayleigh McEnany has voted by mail.
      Bill Barr has voted by mail.
      Betsy DeVos has voted by mail.
      Larry Kudlow has voted by mail.
      Wilbur Ross has voted by mail.


  6. Just read that a Democrat worker in Democrat headquarters in Phoenix was let go and returned to burn down the headquarters.

    The Democrats blamed Republicans of course (not our style) but the perp was caught on video and boasted of it on social media. Democrats really should not encourage habits like this.

    During WW II we experimented with attaching incendiary devices to bats thinking if let go in enemy territory they would start fires inside buildings. The idea was abandoned when a few bats got loose and burned down some of our buildings.

    The Democrats are making human bats like that and they don’t really know where they will finally go.

  7. Honestly, the best possible outcome after Trump is defeated in November would be for every Trumptard to kill themselves. It really is the only way to make America great again.

    1. Darren’s quit reading the comments out of disgust, I’m sure. If he does now and again, he might consider lowering the ban hammer on this person.

    2. Margaret– Down below in this post they were saying that Trump people were cruel and vicious. You overflow with the pus of human kindness.

    3. May we count only the legitimate votes of actual Americans “entitled to vote” per the “original intent” and legislation of the American Founders in the severely-restricted-vote American republic, the Constitution thereof being adopted in 1789 and, within the year, the passage of the Naturalization Act of 1790?

  8. “Together, You Can Redeem the Soul of Our Nation”

    “Though I am gone, I urge you to answer the highest calling of your heart and stand up for what you truly believe.”


    “Ordinary people with extraordinary vision can redeem the soul of America by getting in what I call good trouble, necessary trouble. Voting and participating in the democratic process are key. The vote is the most powerful nonviolent change agent you have in a democratic society. You must use it because it is not guaranteed. You can lose it.”

      1. Who the —- is John Lewis?

        The “voting rights” of and intended by the American Founders began at the restriction on citizenship in their Naturalization Act of 1790 requiring citizens to be “…free white person(s)…” proceeding to the applied vote criteria: Male, European, 21, 50 lbs. Sterling/50acres.

        The “voting rights” of the American Founders in the Presidential election of 1788 resulted in a turnout of 11.6% by design and intent.

        Figure it out.

        The American Founders established a severely-restricted-vote republic and treasonous criminals illegally rearranged it, coincidentally, immediately subsequent to the assassination of the compassionate-repatriationist, Abraham Lincoln, illicit and unconstitutional “Reconstruction Amendments” aside, they having been improperly ratified and forcibly imposed under the duress of brutal, post-war military occupation on a beaten and war weary nation.

      1. Kurtz– The pipes do that to me too. Oddly, I was playing two different performances of it earlier. This is the third. AG Barr is very good on the pipes I saw. I wonder if it was a mistake for the House Democrats to treat him so shabbily? May have made him reach for a trigger he was leaving alone until now.

      2. On D-Day one of the Scot soldiers marched on the beach under terrific fire playing the pipes though he had been forbidden to do it. The Germans could plainly see him but not one tried to shoot him.

        Andre Rieu has a nice video of piper’s marching in playing Scotland the Brave and joining the orchestra on stage.

          1. Scot ancestry

            Me too, actually, about half. I was delighted to learn that I also have some American Indian ancestry. I admire Indians but don’t pretend they weren’t savages…Scots, too, come to think of it…and that may be why I like them.

            I think somewhere, maybe Napoleonic Wars, Scot soldiers were called Ladies From Hell. Churchill commanded Scots in WW I and thought very highly of them.

            1. Lots of people with ancestors who settled in Appalachia have a lot of Scots blood and a wee bit of Cherokee in them. This is often a point of pride as well. There’s nothing wrong with celebrating the ferocity of one’s ancestors, in my book. Our very existence here today means that we survived, perhaps, exactly because they were what they were.

              I will leave it to Democrats like Pelosi to bow and scrape and apologize for their very own lives. I am not partaking of that.

          2. Looked at the abstract. Petticoated Devils is another good one. Looks as if a good article is marred by professor-speak.

            1. Cindy– It is a great story but probably hard to find now. He survived the war and I think I remember seeing an interview of him. He greatly inspired many other soldiers. They thought if he can stand up there and march back and forth in front of the Germans playing those pipes I guess I can press on too.

                1. Young,,,,thank you……I read about him…..So fascinating….never heard that story.

                  I am Scots Irish, Welsh, Swiss. Honest is Flemish Belgian, English.
                  and I have no trace of Native Am ancestry, as I was told as a child….bummer!

                  1. Cindy,

                    It is coming along slowly. I am trying to keep things in order but it is not always easy. I was unsure when I left the mining area to get away for a little while and hitchhiked and rode freight trains to Mexico where I walked over to visit the border town, Augua Prieta, before starting back. Then I remembered riding with a trucker and seeing groups of people walking along the highway early in the morning and realizing they were doing the 50 mile walk that President Kennedy had urged Americans to do. That helped pin it down. Later I remember going for a flying lesson and seeing Kennedy’s funeral on a television in the flight shack and turning away. It was too sad and I had had enough. Some vivid memories I can’t anchor in time with other events, though I am trying. I doubt anyone will read it.

                    1. Young…..I admire you for trying! It must be challenging, tying events together from years ago.
                      They say the best writing comes from those who follow the advice “write what you know”. You’ve got that covered.
                      Personally…I think you have a nice style…….and your stories pique my interest because I like stories of people who are not afraid of life and can make their own way…….being self sufficient. People love that because it shows that self sufficiency is possible. Don’t know if I’m making sense!

                    2. Cindy,

                      You are making sense. Though I grew up in an area where self sufficiency came with the territory. Even there some thought I was pushing my luck.

                    3. Cindy,

                      I am imposing, but here is a brief section on my first day underground. We had gone down 3,700 feet and then:

                      I followed the guys into a smaller, unlit tunnel and heard our boots crunch on the rocky floor. I wasn’t really following people. I was following lights, fireflies, bobbing in the darkness ahead of me. We walked, winding and curving in the hot, humid dark through areas where the tunnel had long ago followed a vein of ore until finally we came to a vertical shaft illuminated by a single light bulb. The fireflies turned into men again in the cone of light cast by the one bulb.

                    4. Young……Thank you for sharing that……….that excerpt is really really good. Because of your word imagery, I am right there in that mine, You have a gift in my opinion.
                      Whenever you feel you want more of it read, , you’re welcome to send excerpts to Honestlawyer’s website via his avatar ….just offering.
                      Either way, I look forward to reading more. You really do have a talent!

                    5. Cindy,

                      Thanks so much. I often think I am wasting my time so encouragement like yours is truly appreciated.

  9. Meanwhile, the DC Circuit Court of Appeals has chosen to rehear en banc the application from Michael Flynn’s counsel for a writ of mandamus, telling the parties to “be prepared to address whetherthere are ‘no other adequate means to attain the relief’ desired,” and has vacated the 3 judge panel’s June 24 opinion:

  10. As always, I know that truth has been revealed when the trolls come out in force, and always with new names. Nothing p*sses off a leftist troll, or the handlers that pay them, more than facts, the upholding of law and principle, and reasoned argument. I always consider it a good sign, don’t buy the narrative, these people are scared poopless, and that is NOT a position of strength.

    1. James you ‘are’ the biggest troll on this blog! For you to be complaining about trolls is beyond hypocrisy.

      1. Peter – I noticed a lot of ad hominem attacks by you. You are not the ruler of the blog.

        1. Paul, James is the same person who uses 20 names per day. He accounts for a disproportionate number of comments on any given thread. For him to complain about trolls is a classic case of the ‘pot calling the kettle black’.

          1. Peter – you spend a lot of your time spewing ad hominems. Is that the best use of your time?

          2. I think I can name from memory about 20 names used by Peter Hill sometimes using several at a time. Captain Lochart, Deke Thornton, Ethan Edwards, John Russel, John Starret….

            Get the point?

      1. Young, I’ve noticed for some time that you add nasty little comments wherever you can just to give the threads a cold, malicious tone.

          1. Young, your comments above could be used as Exhibit #1 to explain why Republicans are becoming a toxic brand. Too many Republicans believe that nastiness is a virtuous sign of ‘strength’. ..It isn’t..!

              1. Young, those are the Bernie Bros and Trump was promoting Bernie.

                In the run up to the South Carolina primary, Trump actually encouraged Republicans to vote for Bernie (because the primary was open).

                1. The Governor and the Mayor are colluding with them. And it’s crickets from Sundown Joe.

                  1. Absurd– Quite true. The lunatic mayors and governors who tolerate, and even march with these latter day Vandals are Democrats. The media that praises the ‘mostly peaceful’ arson and destruction of federal and private property is composed of Democrats, and the Democrats in Congress have nary a negative word for the ravages of these revolting hoodlums. In fairness to Sundown Joe, however, I am not sure he knows what is happening. When you reach the point where you don’t recognize your wife you are too far gone to worry about a burning cathedral of justice or a nation sinking into a fetid swamp.

                    1. Kurtz– You have a point. Soy boy Vandals on training wheels. But I don’t want them to grow up.

              2. The vast majority of Democrats don’t burn down federal courthouses either.

                And some of the people who are causing damage in some cities are white supremacists, who likely aren’t Democrats. For example:

                1. some of the people syas CTHD. lets see, first of all you have no conclusive proof for any of those alleged perps.

                  secondly even if we grant that they are what you say, you have now about 3 or 4 people against 30 or 40 thousands of protesters or more who have been busy at riot

                  I hardly think this is a wise comparison for you to make if you intend to slander “white supremacists” as criminals. If anything, they have been surprisingly inactive in this mess

                2. The vast majority of Democrats don’t burn down federal courthouses either.

                  Thanks for the favor.

                  Now do something about your Governor and your Mayor, who are up to their eyeballs in this.

                  1. “Now do something about your Governor and your Mayor, who are up to their eyeballs in this.”

                    Just where do you assume I live, and what does the pronoun “this” refer to?

                3. Commit says: “The vast majority of Democrats don’t burn down federal courthouses either.”

                  My, my, that’s a glowing endorsement if ever. Only SOME of us burn down courthouses so vote for us you racist, sexist, vile, low-life scum’.

                  Can’t wait to see the ads with burning buildings in the background and smoking embers trickling down around the Democrat candidate. Might as well say Vote for Satan.

                  As for umbrella man. Nobody knows, but in Richmond the ‘white supremacists’ they have arrested have social media histories as socialist, Marxist Democrats who favor BLM. Don’t trust the b.s. from Democrat run governments.

                  1. this guy who organized Charlottesville., Jason something or other, guess who he had voted for prior to becoming a supposed white racist? Yes, Obama. Some racist

                    and not much of an “organizer” either

                  2. For better or worse, some Democrats AND some Republicans AND some independents AND some Libertarians AND … are violent / destructive. Personally, I don’t judge any party on that basis. If you do, OK.

                    “As for umbrella man. Nobody knows”

                    Hmm. “Minneapolis police arson investigator Erika Christensen filed a search warrant affidavit in Hennepin County District Court on Monday… Christensen confirmed the suspect is a member of the biker gang Hells Angels and an associate of the Aryan Cowboys, a white supremacist prison gang…” (quoting CBS News).

                    “in Richmond the ‘white supremacists’ they have arrested have social media histories as socialist, Marxist Democrats who favor BLM”

                    I’ll wait for you to quote or link to a news report that backs you up.

                    1. who knows maybe he was on contract for BLM. do you think racist criminals won’t pull a job for money?

                      it was a biker working off a dope beef who set randy weaver up

                      like i said you got maybe 3 or 4 people versus 30 or 40 thousand., the assertion you have made is so weak it’s a joke

                      now, when racist criminals want to send a message, there’s usually no mistaking it. remember mcveigh? well that was near 3 decades ago.

                      but i know, you guys have to keep on propping up the bogeyman, racists behind every bush, conspiring with russian agents

                    2. Kurtz, not only have you not provided evidence that it’s “30 or 40 thousand” nationally who’ve been violent, but you’ve not provided any evidence of the party affiliation of these “30 or 40 thousand.”

                      You ask “do you think racist criminals won’t pull a job for money?” but you seem to think that your conjecture only goes one way.

                      “but i know, you guys have to keep on propping up the bogeyman, racists behind every bush, conspiring with russian agents”

                      Again: some Democrats AND some Republicans AND some independents AND some Libertarians AND … are violent / destructive.
                      It’s not hard at all for me to include Democrats in that sentence.
                      But I know, it’s hard for you to deal with liberals like me who don’t make sweeping overgeneralizations, so you have to pretend that I’m “propping up the bogeyman”

                    3. Young, no doubt you also say “I will wait for an actual arrest and some facts” for all of the people who carried out other crimes.
                      I’m certain that I’ve seen you withholding judgment on alleged conservative AND liberal perps, while you “wait for an actual arrest and some facts.” /s

                      Still waiting for your evidence that “in Richmond the ‘white supremacists’ they have arrested have social media histories as socialist, Marxist Democrats who favor BLM” After all, you’re talking about people who’ve been arrested. What are the “facts”?

                    4. The whole world has been watching democrat leaders in action permitting rioting and looting in an attempt to assuage the anger of those that for the most part would vote Democrat if they voted.

                      One can see that the MSM has attempted to downplay the violence but the videos from these areas are compelling proving democrats facilitate violence and looting.

                4. The vast majority of democrats do not burn down things or loot, but democrat leaders facilitate such actions.

        1. Lewis could have and should have retired 13 years ago. He was due at that time full Social Security, Medicare, and an agreeable pension. There wasn’t any grand reason for him to stay in Congress. He never shepherded through any legislation of consequence and didn’t have any notable expertise in an area of policy. Someone else could have indubitably done constituent service as well as he did.

          See the op-ed his staff arranged for publication as his posthumous statement. If the man ever had an original observation in his life, his handlers were dead set against it seeing the light of day.

      2. Young– At last count, in his decades of “service” in Congress, Lewis was the primary sponsor of only 21 bills and none of them that I saw were of particular note. Meanwhile, Charles Evers died with little celebration of a life that was transformed from a petty hood by the murder of his brother Medgar to a true champion of civil rights in Mississippi where he became the first black mayor in the state’s history. Of course, democrats loved Lewis because his lack of class caused him to refuse to attend the inauguration of President Trump and they hated Charles because he actually liked President Trump. When one compares the democrat’s emotional outpouring for George Floyd and John Lewis to their less than muted responses to the death of Herman Cain or Charles Evers, perhaps they admire the theory of civil rights more than the practice?

          1. You might dial it back. The problem hasn’t been that he’s a malevolent person, but that the encomiums bear no relation to who he actually was. To some extent, that’s a function of having been in Congress. Louise Slaughter’s funeral ran on for over two hours (with John Lewis one of the eulogists). Her family should know better than that, but they didn’t.

        1. Sorry but I’m a Trump supporter and I found your comment to be in really poor taste. Really distasteful.

            1. Anonymous…….Huh? In poor taste??? The gays chose the rainbow as their symbol. so take it up with them. You know nothing about me, but judge anyway.
              I was an assistant to the first openly gay Texas Representative in its history…….a very close friend. He would have died laughing at the comment and had one of his own….all of my gay friends would have. Sorry you can’t enjoy life, it seems.

              1. BTW…… Lewis refused to attend Trump inauguration, Now THAT’s distasteful. The last 40 years of his life were spent race baiting and selling out to the highest Democrat bidder……Distasteful.

                1. Lewis also refused to attend Bush’s inauguration, in protest. Yet George W. Bush was invited to speak at his funeral today and he graciously accepted the invitation. Why do you suppose Bush was invited to speak? We all know why. And not one Democrat pol would have had the graciousness and class to show up the way GWB and Laura Bush did today. I’m no fan of GWB, but he does rise to the occasion unlike so many politiicians today, most notably Barack Hussein Obama.

                  1. Anonymous……..Bush “graciously accepted the invitation” “!!! LOL!! How old are you? Bush and company put the screws to Trump….They all want Trump defeated but for different reasons…..Honestly….I will just guess that you’re young and don’t appreciate the depth and power of the never trumpers. That funeral was an orchestrated ambush, or full court press or whatever you want to call it. And it was directed by Lewis before he died.
                    Sorry to laugh, but please……THINK BIGGER and THINK CRITICALLY, son.

              2. Oh I enjoy life, make no mistake about that. I enjoy your comments, too. And I have a great sense of humor. I also know when I feel a “joke” is in poor taste and not funny. And as I shared with you, in my opinion, your comment is distasteful. “All of my gay friends” and relatives would find it distasteful as well. So let’s just say that “all gays” do not share your sense of humor even if, as you say, “all your gay friends” do.

                1. Anonymous…..I did not say all gays should laugh at that. If your gay friends are offended they are possibly uptight and insecure….which is their right.
                  I STILL do not see why you think that is distasteful, but who cares. Rainbows and gays have been inseparable for many years…But back in the day,(late 60’s) when my small, cheap Oklahoma apartment was ground zero for the Queen Fests of old and young gay guys in that little OK town, the rainbow was not a symbol, and “gay” was not used quite yet. And they hated lesbians.. They would borrow my evening gowns, after 5 dresses and satin mules to wear to the Okla City clubs.. It was great fun…And I was a beard for whomever needed to be straight for the evening. So, I am comfortable with my gay friends as I have been for 50 years…..and I don’t need a lecture on homophobia.

    1. And now we pay tribute to the particular personal aspects of 434 other local representatives,,,NOT!

      Who in the world is this guy?

      Wait look!

      Herman Cain passed away.

      Herman Cain achieved success, by any measure, through endeavor and merit in the private sector.

      Herman Cain did not demand pity, sympathy or governmental assistance derived of other people’s money.

      Herman Cain eschewed parasitism.

      Herman Cain seized the opportunity of constitutional American freedom.

      Herman Cain enjoyed the American thesis: Freedom and Self-Reliance.

      Herman Cain (December 13, 1945 – July 30, 2020) was an American business executive, syndicated columnist, and Tea Party activist. Cain grew up in Georgia and graduated from Morehouse College with a bachelor’s degree in mathematics. He then graduated with a master’s degree in computer science at Purdue University, while also working full-time for the U.S. Department of the Navy. In 1977, he joined the Pillsbury Company where he later became vice president. During the 1980s, Cain’s success as a business executive at Burger King prompted Pillsbury to appoint him as chairman and CEO of Godfather’s Pizza, in which capacity he served from 1986 to 1996.

      Cain was chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City Omaha Branch from 1989 to 1991. He was deputy chairman, from 1992 to 1994, and then chairman until 1996, of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City. In 1995, he was appointed to the Kemp Commission, and in 1996, he served as a senior economic adviser to Bob Dole’s presidential campaign. From 1996 to 1999, Cain served as president and CEO of the National Restaurant Association.

      – Wiki

    2. Who the —- is John Lewis?

      The “voting rights” of and intended by the American Founders began at the restriction on citizenship in their Naturalization Act of 1790 requiring citizens to be “…free white person(s)…” proceeding to the applied vote criteria: Male, European, 21, 50 lbs. Sterling/50acres.

      The “voting rights” of the American Founders in the Presidential election of 1788 resulted in a turnout of 11.6% by design and intent.

      Figure it out.

      The American Founders established a severely-restricted-vote republic and treasonous criminals illegally rearranged it, coincidentally, immediately subsequent to the assassination of the compassionate-repatriationist, Abraham Lincoln, illicit and unconstitutional “Reconstruction Amendments” aside, they having been improperly ratified and forcibly imposed under the duress of brutal, post-war military occupation on a beaten and war weary nation.

    3. My family is STILL waiting to have our funeral and memorial gathering for our loved one who died from Covid on April 2. Why shouldn’t John Lewis’s family and friends have to wait and put off his week of funerals and memorials like the rest of us? He’s no more important than my family, I assure you. Why should George Floyd, a thug and a criminal, get five funerals and masses of protestors shoulder to shoulder filling the streets? Why shouldn’t all that wait just like the rest of us have been told we need to do? Go to hell Fauci. Go to hell Democrats. Go to hell Fake News Media.

  11. This is one of those topics that’s absolutely hilarious coming from Leftist Democrats considering they’ve been revolting for the last three years over the last election results, and even after 20 years, they still haven’t accepted Gore’s loss. Then there’s Stacey Abrams.

    My eyes are starting to hurt from all the eye rolling.

  12. I personally love watching the President mess with the heads of his adversaries…….like watching a cat play with its prey to wear it out before he devours it.
    And the adversaries are so dumb, they never realize what’s happening. It’s pure theater, and Trump is a master at it. Love that guy!

    1. Fewer and fewer people love that guy. I predict there will be less than 40% of the dupes left to vote for this ‘guy’. As far as being worn out goes, Trump is looking more and more pathetic or worn out by the day. “Nobody likes me.” “I’m going to give lots of money to the people because I love the people.” “How much for your vote.” etc., etc., etc.. Trump’s adversaries, which at last tally amounted to about 60% of those polled, don’t have to be smart. They have Trump who is a one line punter. There’s no team behind him. The goal posts are out of his range.

      1. The polls are accurate. Keep believing them. 🙂

        2024 polls will be accurate, since they will have the 2020 election results to weight it.

        In 2020, Trump will receive over 30% of the black vote decimating the Democratic party.

        1. If Trump gets 30% of the black vote the Dems have a problem. And black America is leaving the plantation.

              1. prolly won’t even come close to 30% but if he even hits 10% that will tell you the situation is not quite what you thought it was before

                i guess we will find out soon enough

                1. Paul – I just estimated Trump will get 60% of the baklck vote. There’s no chance, however, that will come true, much like the 40% or 30% or even 20%. Care to make a wager?

                  1. I think he will hit ten, surprising a lot of people, but if he hits even 12% i would be very very surprised
                    of course I was surprised he won in the first place

                    The main benefit Trump or any Republican or even Southern white Democrats have, in not being perceived as a racist, is simply to capture suburban and moderate white votes. The racist tag hurts white people not so much with blacks, but other whites.

                    Realistically, hardly any Republican candidates I know of are reliant on the black vote for re-election. They dont even bother to run in places like Detroit. So most of those who are serious candidates can write it off mostly and probably wouldn’t matter too much. If there are districts where the black vote matters to a Republican seeking re-election, or even one who has a realistic chance of winning at the first go round, numerically, please let me know because I am not aware of them.

                    again, I believe that the votes they are shooting for when they are acting all equality minded are actually white voters who are sensitive. I doubt very many people have articulated this, even in their inner minds., but what i have learned from decades of being occasionally called a racist, is that it only hurts you when WHITE people call you a racist. There is an expectation that black folks are going to call me a racist one way or another and one doesn’t ever react to it. It’s just expected. Not just by me but by other people too.

                    That is not to say that black opinions about relative levels of white racism do not matter. Whites dont like being called racist, whether they are or not. In the mass media, where a bunch of white editors pick and choose how to project whatever story, they often like to project voices where blacks call whites racist. Wow, we have seen a lot of that the past 2 months! What effect on white people, this?

                    Well, there is a possibility that it will backfire. White people will not become more sympathetic to blacks who are attacking them with vitriol and riot, they will become LESS concerned about the harms which can’t be avoided. It’s like worrying about lightening. Sure, it kills a bunch of people every year, but what’s the point in worrying? If it gets you it gets you. There is nothing you can do to avoid it. Likewise, if there is nothing whites can do to avoid the damage of being called a racist; if even “silence is violence” now, and the only thing is going out there and chucking bricks at a riot that will convince blacks one is not racist, then i ask you, will white people really care? I dont know. I am just speculating.

                    Well, we will have to wait and see until November to get an accurate read on how whitey plans to vote, for whatever reasons, come that day

                2. There are surveys which indicate his approval rating among blacks is in that range. Don’t think that translates into votes very readily with that particular constituency. Voting behavior by blacks isn’t driven by ambient circumstances or by historical circumstances.

                  1. DSS – Trump’s approval rating among Republicans is 96%. At this very minute I am listening to four black YT taking about political topics. 2 have never voted before but all are going to vote for Trump.

              2. Pray, tell me, enigmassa, what’s wrong with that statement? The white world is breathlessly awaiting your frowny face rebuke.. Please favor us with your divine spittle, oh gracious black one.

                (You are so easy to ensnare…..so gullible!…What a tisk-tisking tattletale you are. .I’ll bet you’re running low on citation pads)

          1. Adjust your expectations accordingly. Trump will be doing extraordinarily well if he gets 15% of the Black vote. 30% ain’t realistic. Barack Hussein Obama is out campaigning in full force absolutely lying thru his teeth and racializing the election as only he can get away with due to a sycophantic complicit media. Obama and his useful idiots will keep chipping away at the black vote that he knows has been leaning toward going to Trump and/or Kanye. Blacks who vote FOR Joe “you ain’t black” Biden are idiots. Truly stupid individuals.

          1. Young….Me too! I’ve talked before about playing my transistor radio under my pillow after my parents announced “Lights out” on school nights…LOL
            That was during the early 60’s when this song was a hit. Such a great era for popular music!

            1. Cindy Bragg – I did not have a radio of any type in my bedroom so I spent the night reading under the covers. 😉

                1. Cindy Bragg – we didn’t have a TV until 1959. We had the smallest cable TV station in the US.

                    1. Cindy Bragg – our little TV station played the great Universal horror films every Friday night.

    2. Cindy, I’m confused. Why would the president of the United States feel the need to issue wildly rash statements?

      Since when is “messing with the heads of adversaries” a practice of U.S. presidents??

      Theoretically presidents should do their very best to put out responsible, measured statements. Presidents have to be seen as credible or they are failures to the country.

      Because he makes rash and wild statements, on a routine basis, Trump has no moral authority. More than half the country views him as less than fully sane. That helps explain why the country seems to be spinning out of control.

      1. Trump psyops, yes, he is a pro

        But other Presidents have done them too. LBJ was a psyop pro if we ever had one. He really did a number on his rivals. wow


        I am not a big fan of what Trump said in this instance. However, don’t make too much out of it, he was just asking a question. right?
        Questions can be very powerful. Like Lenin’s: “what is to be done?” indeed, ask it now folks ask it and ponder while you still have time

        1. Mr Kurtz…………..Thank you for the comment about Iraq………interesting.. But the daddy thang was a factor. Unless one has lived in Austin, Houston, or Dallas, one cannot appreciate the extremely disturbing Bush family loyalty.

        2. Mr Kurtz……. You are very kind.
          Jerry Jones, btw, owns the Dallas Cowboys……and yes, Highland Park and University Parks neighborhoods are very nice…I have family there….but ya got me on :”high yeller”!! I don;t know that…and one of my granddady’s was in the oil business during the boom. So, ya got me! LOL

      2. Seth sez………”Since when is ‘messing with the heads of adversaries’ a practice of U.S. presidents??”

        hmmm. I believe it was shortly after the sun came out, and the last two animals got off of the Ark.

        1. No, Cindy, that’s NEVER been a practice. It just began with Trump.

          Even George W knew he had to be seen as reasonably responsible. He didn’t say just any crazy thing to distract from events.

            1. He had two Ivy League degrees and trained as a fighter pilot. See Steven Sailer on how to translate his AFQT scores into ordinary IQ scores. Bush’s aptitude tests are commensurate with professional people generally.

              1. Absurd– I remember Sailer’s work and suspect he is right. But Bush, Jr can do a good imitation of Denny Dimwit.

                  1. Absurd…….Are you capable of admitting that someone knows something you don’t? You’re so intelligent yourself. So, it’s ok to lose a match occasionally. I will still admire you, even though you have no respect for me.

                    1. .Are you capable of admitting that someone knows something you don’t?

                      Are you capable of a relevant response?

                      There’s what you fancy you know and there is what’s publicly known.

                      The objective evidence indicates George W Bush isn’t suffering any deficit of ‘g’. That’s not the only asset you need in this world, but it helps. See Sailer’s elaboration on this point. John Kerry, John F. Kennedy, and George W Bush all had similar scores on psychometric tests. Al Gore might have had better scores, but his academic performance was worse and his occupational life prior to entering politics was briefer and less demanding than that of Bush or John McCain or Joseph Lieberman.

                      Under the heading of ‘that’s not all you need’, look at Richard Nixon, whose occupational life prior to entering politics was jumbled and frustrating and who was a demonstrably wretched administrator in the presidency who made a number of glaring policy errors. His psychometric scores were at the 99th percentile.

                1. Now I remember how the Dems were boasting of Kerry’s intellect being much greater than Bush’s but only to discover that Bush had better standardized test scores and better grades. Then discovered Kerry did poorly even in a soft gentleman’s science course. Kerry would make a better stunt double for Lurch though.

                  1. Kerry practiced law for seven years, two years and change in a prosecutor’s office (where he was given administrative duties) and four years and change in a two-lawyer firm. His partner was also his gf at one point. Neither one continued in private practice (she was able some years after he’d gone into elective office to wangle a judgeship – see mespo’s remarks on what sort of attorneys seek out the bench).

              2. Absurd…..I don’t care what the hell he had. I worked with the guy at the State Capitol when he was governor. Sorry, but that trumps your litany of his “achievements”. JEB supposedly was the bright one.

                1. Cindy– I will take your word over any third hand analysis. Thanks. I guess he wasn’t just pretending to be Denny Dimwit.

                  1. LOL……Thank you……some of our friends who were his best friends kept telling us that he was really likeable if it was “one on one”….
                    But for him to start an entire war where young kids would surely die because of spite! Because Hussein embarrassed his daddy……….Honestly!
                    A smart man would have kept the focus on Afghanistan, where it belonged! It would have ended quickly and effectively! And Americans would not have suffered as much!

                    1. But for him to start an entire war where young kids would surely die because of spite! Because Hussein embarrassed his daddy……….Honestly!

                      Again, Bush isn’t culpable for the issue of your imagination.

                    2. Cindy I dont take this stuff about Bush starting war in Iraq because of his dad seriously,. I suspect you don’t either

                      The strategic aims of the wars in the middle east according to Ray McGovern a decorated CIA analyst was O I L

                      o for oil
                      i for israel
                      L for logistics, necessary staging in both Iraq and Afghanistan for strategic military operations in the region and worldwide

                      if this is true, then, the logistics aims were clearly accomplished. we have green zones in iraq and afghanistan still., it may be that the ongoing taliban occupation of most of the country is not really all that significant, from this viewpoint

                      I– Israel is still secure. I know a lot of people don’t like that, and i have criticized it myself. but it is arguably a reliable US ally so perhaps that is for the best.

                      but oil? was oil accomplished? that is hard to judge and at this time the most significant oil production area for the US is inside the US, shale oil

                      now, hydraulic fracturing in the permian basin began to reverse the falling production of the Permian basin, which had peaked in 1973, starting with 2011. this was well after the war in Iraq was done, not including, the insurgency aspects. and today, there is a worldwide glut at the moment, which has the price still in the dumps. so perhaps we might say, if the aim was to increase oil development, perhaps it worked out all to well from our current perspective.


                    3. The strategic aims of the wars in the middle east according to Ray McGovern a decorated CIA analyst was O I L

                      Which tells you you shouldn’t be listening to Ray McGovern. Israel advised the Bush Administration to give priority to containing Iran, not Iraq. As for oil you cannot make a business case for invading Iraq.

                    4. I knew you wouldn’t like me mentioning Ray. You don’t like that guy. I like him. Not that liking matters where credibility is concerned. I find him credible on this.

                      but i agree with you that the US did not get a big oil benefit out of Iraq. I have heard people claim BP got a boost. I don’t think that’s a big plus for the US, definitely not now, and maybe not back then either

                    5. You tell him to show you the math that there’s a business case for conquering Iraq based on it’s oil reserves. He cannot do it.

                      As for Israel’s priorities, see Martin Kramer’s assessments.

                  2. Cindy– I will take your word over any third hand analysis.

                    It’s not a third-hand analysis. He was given psychometric tests on entering the Air National Guard and Kerry was given them on entering the Navy. Both John F Kennedy and Richard Nixon were given them in their late adolescent years.

                    And you haven’t a clue what she means when she says ‘I worked with him’, or even if she isn’t inventing something out of whole cloth. I used to have an office right below the provost of my old employer. I could have annoyed her by banging on the ceiling. I never had one conversation with her, and she was in my chain of command. I spoke to one or another of her secretaries about once a year.

                    1. Absurd why are you being so mean? Why would I make up any story? If I have firsthand personal knowledge of a subject or person….and especially have been in a working environment with that person, I think I can add something to a conversation. I appreciate it when others do that.
                      You’re disappointing me.

                2. I worked with the guy at the State Capitol when he was governor. Sorry, but that trumps your litany of his “achievements”.

                  Really? You’re Ashley Kavanaugh posting under a pseudonym?

                  1. Absurd…..You have made me sad tonight. It’s upsetting to read that someone thinks I might be a liar.
                    I have always treated life as a banquet, and have stuffed myself. Honestlawyer,has too.
                    Like so many here on this blog, we have worked with and known so many people for over 50 years, from very famous to not so famous…..but enjoyed them equally.
                    I have especially gotten a kick out of the fact that I’m just a housewife, but have had the amazing experiences that I have had…I think it’s hilarious,
                    And I love it when people tell me who’ve they’ve known, etc….it makes life so interesting., hearing people and their stories.
                    I guess I assume people view me the same way…..Oh well…..I learn so much on this blog. That’s why I’m here.

                    P.S. I have always thought Nixon was a brilliant man, just flawed,like the rest of us.. When he went to China, I had my first grade music students make a singing tape for the President, thanking him for the panda bears.. He (his staff) sent them a thank you letter with a picture of his Irish Setter. They were thrilled. I have no proof because I thought the school should keep the letter and the picture.

                    1. Don’t let the curmudgeon bother you Cindy.

                      Now did i tell you the time i had a real estate broker take me on a tour in dallas? I said show me the old downtown if you have one., you know, prewar, sidewalks, stuff like that. not the north dallas mega-development cookie cutter areas.

                      So he took me to Ross Perot’s house. Big wall. Im like, Uh, all I see is a wall. He says but that’s a very big house behind the wall. Im like ok well how about we see some houses?

                      If I recall then he took me to jerry joneses spread. Not sure who jerry jones is but I remember the name. Seems like that was boring too, couldnt see anything. but this was close to SMU, Highland Park? that was like what i call a real neighborhood. nice. I said can we drive over there? he’s like, “oh, that’s high dollar too”

                      “high dollar” is an expression we never use up here

                      Here’s another similar expression I learned on my trip to texas: high yeller

                    2. Im in East Texas when I heard that. Somebody is telling me something about about LBJ and the oil business. Then somebody says high yeller. I was thinking about that story about the dog. Old Yeller. They could tell I had no clue. Then they explained. Im like, uh, ok. the things you can learn from Democrats, wow!

            2. Trump is very bright either.

              And he brags about it.

              For example, he claimed that the later questions on the Montreal Cognitive Assessment are “difficult,” when none of the questions are difficult for an adult … unless the person has dementia or some other cognitive impairment.

              As one psychologist said in response, “bragging about acing this test is the equivalent of bragging that you tied your own shoes this morning.”

              1. One person on this board doesn’t understand personal agency and another doesn’t understand irony and both fancy they should be instructing the rest of us.

                1. Yes, it is indeed ironic that Trump brags about passing a basic cognitive assessment.

          1. I don’t think President Trump says things to distract from events so much as drive those events. Looked at from that angle he is brilliant.

      1. preposterous slanders associating Republicans today with lynchings from 90 years ago but CTHD specializes in trolling us with preposterous notions

      2. however i will say this. cruelty has its place and maybe it is “under-rated”


        Nietzsche and the Art of Cruelty
        W. Jared Parmer
        The Journal of Nietzsche Studies
        Penn State University Press
        Volume 48, Issue 3, Autumn 2017
        pp. 402-429


        This article explains Nietzsche’s high regard for cruelty. After offering a conceptual analysis of cruel acts, it argues that they are an apt means of expressing one’s power, drawing from work on Nietzsche’s psychological views and doctrine of the will to power to do so. In addition to the benefit that perpetrators of cruelty can enjoy in virtue of expressing their power, victims, by enduring cruelty, can cultivate qualities essential to overcoming the terrible truths of existence. Finally, central to most of Nietzsche’s remarks on the matter, self-directed cruelty has deep connections with the process of sublimation, which makes possible greater and more varied modes of life. In light of this picture, the liberal equation of suffering with harm

  13. That well known right wing organization CBS conducted a mail-in voting experiment. The results were that 3% of the votes went not counted.

    New York allowed mail-in voting for its June primary election. They still don’t know who won.

    Finally, professor, do you know what “???” means? It means the president was asking a question — not making a declarative statement.

      1. Yes. He was asking the person in charge of the country. The citizens.
        If you think he’s in charge, you don’t know how a republic works.

  14. Your claim that you “have no idea” why people are concerned–you snidely and mendaciously call it obsessed–yet again exposes you as an utter buffoon, a Trump stooge, or both. And not in a good way.

  15. By saying we’ve discussed the authoritarian nature of Trump and his various hints at trying to postpone the election, you mean, you’ve made excuses for him doing it, right? Always couched in the ruse of some past objection on your end that actually never happened. Justified by “many have maintained…” teasers?

    Face it, Professor. You’ve backed and run interference for a lawless president.

    Bilran saide it best.

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