The Lincoln Project is airing a commercial today celebrating the end of the politics of division and personal attacks as Twitter removed a tweet (with a skull-and-crossbones emoji) from The Lincoln Project that sought to target lawyers simply because they represent the Trump campaign. The crushing irony is magnified by the fact that Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) has called for liberals to start to assemble enemy lists of people who were “complicit” in the Trump Administration and the first entry was . . . you guessed it … the Republicans who founded the Lincoln Project. It is the reality of our doublespeak politics. Call it skull-and-crossbones civility.
The Lincoln Project called on its almost 3 million followers to hound and harass attorneys Carolyn McGee and Ronald Hicks for assisting the Trump team in its legal battle over mail-in ballots in Pennsylvania. The Lincoln Project tweeted, “Make them famous,” to its 2.7 million followers along with an emoji depicting a skull-and-crossbones. This is the targeting of lawyers who are doing their professional jobs in representing a client and raising allegations of voter irregularities. The Lincoln Project is clearly trying to unleash a campaign of harassment to deter them or other lawyers from taking such cases. Rather than allow the courts to simply rule on such legal challenges, the Lincoln Project is trying to scare off the lawyers.
Lincoln Project tweet (FNC screenshot)
Twitter stated: “The Tweet referenced is in violation of the Twitter Rules on abusive behavior. The account owner will be required to delete the violative Tweet before regaining access to their account.”
At the same time, the Lincoln Project is airing a commercial of how we can finally “put people before politics” as they pursue people who are supporting Trump in court.
Turley presumably doesn’t have any issues with Trump’s enemies list. He called Romney, Paul Ryan, Jeff Sessions, & other elected Republicans losers & disasters. He called his Secretary of State “dumb as a rock” his Secretary of Defense “the world’s most overrated general” & his Chief of Staff “in way over his head.” He labelled any Republicans who don’t support him as “human scum.” He said Marco Rubio couldn’t get elected dog catcher in Florida.
Turley has no sympathy for Michelle Obama despite polls showing more than half of Trump supporters don’t believe President Obama was born in the US. Turley clearly has no problems with Trump spending the last 3 ½ years demanding Obama be charged with treason & convincing half of his supporters that our country’s first African-American president wasn’t a legitimate president.
Quite entertaining to see Turley cite Lincoln’s “with malice toward none” comment.
Race, your score-keeping overlooks how chilling all of this is. Can you not see how the current behavior differs from the nits you bring up?
I’m wondering why anyone should feel sorry for someone if her spouse was born in another country. Trump has spent exac\tly none of the last 3.5 years trying to convince anyone that Obama wasn’t a legitimate President.
“For those members of the Lincoln Project, it may be useful to remember the holds of our 16th President: “With malice toward none; with charity for all; … let us strive on to finish the work we are in; to bind up the nation’s wounds…”
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Oh please, no need to be Pollyannaish these people are Bolsheviks. Playing nice gets you nothing from them but laughs. And on Lincoln, I much prefer this more realistic quote on war and its aftermath from his Second Inaugural Address:
“Both parties deprecated war; but one of them would make war rather than let the nation survive; and the other would accept war rather than let it perish. And the war came …. Fondly do we hope — fervently do we pray — that this mighty scourge of war may speedily pass away.”
Oh please, no need to be Pollyannaish these people are Bolsheviks. Playing nice gets you nothing from them but laughs.
I agree completely Mark. We shouldn’t forget Lincoln’s House Divided speech, as it compares and contrasts similar arguments; Lincoln (Trump) vs Douglas (Biden); Slavery (Socialism/Progressivism) vs Feedom/Liberty (constitutional republic).
If we could first know where we are, and whither we are tending, we could then better judge what to do, and how to do it.
We are now far into the fifth year, since a policy was initiated, with the avowed object, and confident promise, of putting an end to slavery agitation.
Under the operation of that policy, that agitation has not only, not ceased, but has constantly augmented.
In my opinion, it will not cease, until a crisis shall have been reached, and passed.
“A house divided against itself cannot stand.”
I believe this government cannot endure, permanently half slave and half free.
I do not expect the Union to be dissolved — I do not expect the house to fall — but I do expect it will cease to be divided.
It will become all one thing or all the other.
Good stuff, Olly.
Slavery must only have been “abolished” through constitutional means such as advocacy, boycotts, divestiture, etc.
Were abolition the will of the world, it would come to pass.
The Framers certainly visited the issue.
George Mason wanted to abolish slavery in the Constitution.
Compassionate repatriation was considered from 1714.
The CSA should have seceded, failed and, ultimately, reunited of necessity.
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Earlier Resettlement Plans
The view that America’s apparently intractable racial problem should be solved by removing Blacks from this country and resettling them elsewhere — “colonization” or “repatriation” — was not a new one. As early as 1714 a New Jersey man proposed sending Blacks to Africa. In 1777 a Virginia legislature committee, headed by future President Thomas Jefferson (himself a major slave owner), proposed a plan of gradual emancipation and resettlement of the state’s slaves. In 1815, an enterprising free Black from Massachusetts named Paul Cuffe transported, at his own expense, 38 free blacks to West Africa. His undertaking showed that at least some free Blacks were eager to resettle in a country of their own, and suggested what might be possible with public and even government support.7
In December 1816, a group of distinguished Americans met in Washington, DC, to establish an organization to promote the cause of Black resettlement. The “American Colonization Society” soon won backing from some of the young nation’s most prominent citizens. Henry Clay, Francis Scott Key, John Randolph, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, James Monroe, Bushrod Washington, Charles Carroll, Millard Fillmore, John Marshall, Roger B. Taney, Andrew Jackson, Daniel Webster, Stephen A. Douglas, and Abraham Lincoln were members. Clay presided at the group’s first meeting.8
Measures to resettle Blacks in Africa were soon undertaken. Society member Charles Fenton Mercer played an important role in getting Congress to pass the Anti-Slave Trading Act of March 1819, which appropriated $100,000 to transport Blacks to Africa. In enforcing the Act, Mercer suggested to President James Monroe that if Blacks were simply returned to the coast of Africa and released, they would probably be re-enslaved, and possibly some returned to the United States. Accordingly, and in cooperation with the Society, Monroe sent agents to acquire territory on Africa’s West coast — a step that led to the founding of the country now known as Liberia. Its capital city was named Monrovia in honor of the American President.9
With crucial Society backing, Black settlers began arriving from the United States in 1822. While only free Blacks were at first brought over, after 1827, slaves were freed expressly for the purpose of transporting them to Liberia. In 1847, Black settlers declared Liberia an independent republic, with an American-style flag and constitution.10
By 1832 the legislatures of more than a dozen states (at that time there were only 24), had given official approval to the Society, including at least three slave-holding states.11 Indiana’s legislature, for example, passed the following joint resolution on January 16, 1850:12
Be it resolved by the General Assembly of the State of Indiana: That our Senators and Representatives in Congress be, and they are hereby requested, in the name of the State of Indiana, to call for a change of national policy on the subject of the African Slave Trade, and that they require a settlement of the coast of Africa with colored men from the United States, and procure such changes in our relations with England as will permit us to transport colored men from this country to Africa, with whom to effect said settlement.
In January 1858, Missouri Congressman Francis P. Blair, Jr., introduced a resolution in the House of Representatives to set up a committee
to inquire into the expediency of providing for the acquisition of territory either in the Central or South American states, to be colonized with colored persons from the United States who are now free, or who may hereafter become free, and who may be willing to settle in such territory as a dependency of the United States, with ample guarantees of their personal and political rights.
Blair, quoting Thomas Jefferson, stated that Blacks could never be accepted as the equals of Whites, and, consequently, urged support for a dual policy of emancipation and deportation, similar to Spain’s expulsion of the Moors. Blair went on to argue that the territory acquired for the purpose would also serve as a bulwark against any further encroachment by England in the Central and South American regions.13
– Robert Morgan
Trump has a history of filing frivolous lawsuits. He abuses the court system to avoid paying small businesspeople who work on his building. He sues all kinds of people who work for him for violating NDAs when they tell the truth about working for him. He is one of the most prolific abusers of the court system in the country, filing thousands of lawsuits. Now he has a federal judiciary with a bunch of judges that he appointed.
Yet, Trump is something like zero for fifteen in lawsuits about this election filed so far. These are frivolous cases. You just have to look at the margin of victory in these states, and the fact that he cannot even allege that there are enough votes being contested to bring a suit.
Hillary lost by far less in these key states and she conceded almost immediately.
“Hillary lost by far less in these key states and she conceded almost immediately.”
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Okay now that I’ve stopped laughing you win the internet comedic relief of the day. She still hasn’t conceded.
Only in your imagination, mespo727272.
Apparently in Hillary’s, too:
Can’t spell “dumb mother f….er” without mespo.
Her’e Hillary on the day after the 2016 election.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-Zt_oGTm4I
She has balls. Trump is a b..ch a.s loser.
No, that was Clinton in 2020 encouraging Biden not to concede on election night if the results were unclear.
How strange that you’d take it as evidence that Clinton didn’t concede in 2016.
Trump is too cowardly and egotistical to concede. He’s probably also afraid of being indicted after he leaves office.
Australia Sky News Alan Jones reports:
“The US presidential election is not over yet as the evidence of voter fraud is simply “common sense” as the numbers do not stack up, says Sky News host Alan Jones.
“This election, mark my words, is not over yet,” Mr Jones said.
Mr Jones spoke of the concerns being raised over a number of aspects relating to voting and the election.
“Take Pennsylvania, a very, very critical State … Biden, it is now clear, received tens of thousands more votes than there are registered Democrats in 11 counties.
“For example, in those 11 counties, Obama and Hilary Clinton averaged between 233,000 and 256,000 votes. Biden received 313,000”.
“Now this is plainly absurd,” he said.
“I have mentioned to you before the vote harvesting in Minneapolis,” he said.
Mr Jones said, “the Republican Party of Wisconsin estimates that thousands of witness addresses may have been changed, thus invalidating the ballots on which they appeared.
“I warned that there is every likelihood this will blow up, the evidence of voter fraud is simply common sense.
“The numbers don’t stack up”.
The person using my name above isn’t me, as is clear from the avatar and the garbage argument.
Mr. Jones’s arguments are bunk. Large numbers of voters are Independents, so it’s quite possible for Biden to receive tens of thousands more votes than there are registered Democrats. I bet that Trump received more votes than there are registered Republicans in some counties, also due to the votes of Independents.
This election had a historic turnout, so it’s also not surprising that Biden got more votes in some places than either Clinton or Obama.
“The person using my name above isn’t me, as is clear from the avatar and the garbage argument.”
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Well, maybe the avatar.
So this is the face of the new administration, God Help Us.
Civil War is inevitable.
JohnPaul – I pray your wrong it would bring so much destruction to this nation but someone somewhere seems to be pushing hard for a snap back from peace loving Americans.
John Paul:
Not really. Most folks aren’t politically motivated to fight. Only a few and a tough policing policy fixes that. The bigger problem is a corporate media that uses freedom of speech to destroy the Republic. They’re dying to be sure but sometime we gotta help that process along. Just move to alternate media platforms.
The members and funders of the Lincoln project are evil people who if they had the power would create a Stalinist Russia in the United States.
Turley should have linked to Jones Day’s response:
https://www.jonesday.com/en/news/2020/11/jones-day-statement-regarding-election-litigation
Jones Day is not representing Trump. They’re representing the PA GOP. However, they’re still working on a frivolous lawsuit. They’re questioning whether the 10k ballots received after November 3 in PA should be counted. But Biden’s lead is greater than 45K, so even if those ballots are not counted, Biden still wins PA’s electors.
More generally, Turley should really work on his links. He mostly links to previous columns that he’s written or to Fox News, and he doesn’t link to things that are necessary to understand whether his own claims are legit. For example, he says “After spending millions in support of Biden, Knost and AOC are calling for all such figures to be listed and held ‘accountable,'” but he doesn’t link to their actual statements.
What did AOC actually say?
It’s hard to know what Turley is referring to. Did he mean her tweet where she said “Is anyone archiving these Trump sycophants for when they try to downplay or deny their complicity in the future? I foresee decent probability of many deleted Tweets, writings, photos in the future. Lol at the ‘party of personal responsibility’ being upset at the idea of being responsible for their behavior over last four years”
If so, she clearly wasn’t referring to the Lincoln Project.
However, they’re still working on a frivolous lawsuit.
Your handlers at Correct-the-Record didn’t instruct you on how not to be so transparent.
Do you falsely assume that other people have handlers, Art/TIA, because *you* have handlers?
You’re not a stupid person, Art/TIA, but you post a lot of stupid claims, presumably because your emotions get the better of your intellect.
The 11:24am comment above was posted by me, CommitToHonestDiscussion.
As was the 11:38am comment.
Okay so the person who posts as “Committed to Honest Discussion” isn’t really “Committed to Honest Discussion,” but the person who posted as “Anonymous” is really “Committed to Honest Discussion.” Got that! No wonder the Left can’t figure out which bathroom to use.
Actually, Mespo, my name is CommitToHonestDiscussion, not “Committed” because my name meant that I wanted **everyone** to commit to honest discussion, not just me. I was meant as a request to everyone. I’m committed to honest discussion, as should be clear from the fact that I regularly correct my mistakes and try to avoid making false claims. You, on the other hand, seem mostly committed to insulting people you disagree with.
The above comment was posted by men, not CTHD
just clarifying
Anonymous:
I thought it was posted by me and was insulting myself despite no insult being present. Got that!
Bill Kristol and the rest of the never Trumpers are carrying water for the war mongering and profiteering globalists, who have been absolutely apoplectic over Trump’s refusal to keep sending American soldiers into endless Middle Eastern wars.
Which is clearly evidenced by Biden’s people immediately talking about getting more troops into Syria, again.
But the number one war the globalists are fiercely waging, is the war on populism. Which is the overarching reason that they are willing to do anything and everything to remove Trump.
So much so that they have blatantly rigged a US major election. They’re not even trying to hide it. In fact, it’s a purposeful in your face FVCK YOU to populism and populists.
But that’s good. It’s always desirable to lure your enemy out into the open. Especially an enemy that normally thrives on secrecy.
“Balk the enemy’s power; force him to reveal himself.” – Sun Tzu
I have no problem with lawyers representing awful clients. We need lawyers willing to do that, including public defenders.
I do have a problem with lawyers filing frivolous lawsuits, and so do the courts: lawyers may be sanctioned for wasting the courts’ time when they do this.
There is no evidence of voter fraud, and they shouldn’t be filing frivolous lawsuits simply to satisfy Trump, who acts like a petulant toddler. Lawyers have an ethical obligation not to file frivolous lawsuits, and they should be called out when they do it.
Committed to Obfuscation:
“There is no evidence of voter fraud, and they shouldn’t be filing frivolous lawsuits simply to satisfy Trump, who acts like a petulant toddler.”
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200 affidavits, common sense and piles of statistics say otherwise. But who needs evidence, right? Nothing to see here. Move along. Sorry,deary but the truth always bubbles out. Oh and thanks for explaining a lawyer’s duty to them. Er we kinda know that fidelity to the Constitution trumps everything.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8936201/Kayleigh-McEnany-brandishes-200-affidavits-alleging-voter-fraud.html
You’re right in one sense, Mespo: I should have been more careful in my claim. Odds are that there’s a small amount of voter fraud, because historically there’s been a small amount of voter fraud. In fact, I linked to a story about voter arrested for fraud yesterday:
“Trump Supporter Arrested For Requesting Absentee Ballot For Dead Mother”
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/-trump-supporter-arrested-voter-fraud-pennsylvania_n_5f91e43ec5b61c185f4848de
But so far there’s no evidence of significant fraud, and certainly not sufficient fraud to affect the results.
McEnany lies a lot, so I have no reason to trust her claims. Do those affidavits actually allege fraud? I haven’t read them. I doubt you have either.
Here’s someone who has read them, Brad Heath of Reuters:
“The Trump campaign released that 234-page stack of affidavits from poll watchers in Detroit tonight. So far, it’s mostly allegations that they couldn’t get as close as they wanted to the counting, couldn’t re-enter the room after they left, etc. Pretty standard election stuff. There’s a claim of ballots being counted more than once. There are a bunch of claims about city workers being hostile to Republicans, cheering when they were escorted out of the room and that kind of thing. There’s a claim that a poll worker backdated the receipt date by some ballots. One Republican poll watcher said the independent lawyers observing the process seemed pretty liberal to him. One Republican poll watcher found it suspicious that members of the military would vote for Joe Biden.”
https://twitter.com/bradheath/status/1326394667542441987 (the tweet thread includes a few images)
How unsurprising that you continue with the puerile name-calling.
Committed:
“How unsurprising that you continue with the puerile name-calling.”
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There was none of that. As usual, runny argument from a runny mind.
It’s unsurprising, Mespo, that you can’t admit that “Committed to Obfuscation” is puerile name-calling. It’s also unsurprising that you double down with “runny argument from a runny mind.” I interpret your insults as projection.
The 1:41pm comment is from me, CommitToHonestDiscussion.
LOL
BTW, Mespo, here’s Detroit’s response:
https://lawandcrime.com/2020-election/detroit-rips-hearsay-speculation-and-conspiracy-theories-its-a-desperate-attempt-to-overturn-election/
There’s a copy of their motion in the article.
Thanks. Detroit’s been a voter fraud haven for 15 years. Here’s an article from the last presidential election. You oughta read more:
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2016/12/12/records-many-votes-detroits-precincts/95363314/
The Democrats aren’t democrats.
AOC and company are the face of Totalitarianism.
Jwit – Isn’t the real question: Who are her puppet masters who hide behind her? She’s proven she’s not the brightest candle on the cake.
So Trump is responsible for the behavior of George Conway, AOC, et al? Funny, last time I looked they were adults and their character (or lack there of) was formed long before they ever heard of Trump. But any lawyer who advocates threats, harassment and retaliation against another lawyer for doing his or her job should be reported to their state bar and/or state Supreme Court for ethics violations.
Anyone can file an ethics complaint against a lawyer. If you think someone should be reported, you can do it yourself.
Anonymous:
BS.
Bar associations always look for reasons to dismiss complaints; standing is one of their favorite excuses.
It’s not BS. There is no such thing as “standing” for an ethics complaint. It’s not a lawsuit.
The above was not written by me using CTHD but by me using Anonymous
It wasn’t written by me (CommitToHonestDiscussion). When one of my comments mistakenly posts as an anonymous comment which sometimes happens due to tech glitches, I always post a note underneath identifying it as a comment from me.
You’re simply trolling, using my name but clearly unable to post under my avatar.
AOC is a reminder of Thomas Sowell’s dicta that articulate people aren’t necessarily intelligent people.
The Democrats (and their Never-Trump allies) are ugly people.
For example, just read the lefty comments on this blog; full of personal attacks on Turley because he won’t write his blog the way they want him to write.
Censors trying to shut Turley down (by insults/intimidation) because he is an independent thinker.
Just going away and leaving Turley alone (and respecting the First Amendment) is not an option to them.
He’s a public intellectual. He shouldn’t be left alone. Maybe he should enforce his Civility Rule.
I would expect nothing less from those people. They are engaging on nothing more than the preservation of their feelings of self-importance.
The Lincoln Project…funny name for a collection of nobodies and losers. They are the definition of irrelevant.
Well this is the type of thing the Culture of Trump creates. He of course can’t leave gracefully but has to do further damage to the country to raise funds and try to influence the Senate races in Georgia.
Martha, Biden lost, and he lost huge. Your wishful thinking will not change anything.
Trump is going to be president for 4 more years.
You obviously know nothing about Georgia, Martha. You’ll find that out the hard way on January 5th.
As to your imaginary “Culture of Trump”, comment.
All of the independent voters that voted for Trump in 2016 and 2020 did not do so due to a “Culture”.
Take your own advice.