Daily Beast Editor Calls For “Humiliation” and “Incarceration” For Trump Supporters

We have been discussing the rising threats against Trump supporters, lawyers, and officials in recent weeks from Democratic members are calling for blacklists to the Lincoln Project leading a a national effort to harass and abuse any lawyers representing the Republican party or President Trump. Others are calling for banning those “complicit” from college campuses while still others are demanding a “Truth and Reconciliation Commission” to “hold Trump and his enablers accountable for the crimes they have committed.” Now, Daily Beast editor-at-large Rick Wilson has added his own call for “humiliation,” “incarceration” and even ritualistic suicides for Trump supporters in an unhinged, vulgar column. Wilson declared “[o]nly exposure, pain, humiliation, and (inshallah) incarceration will lead to a moment of reckoning for the GOP.”

 Not surprisingly, Wilson is a key advisor to the Lincoln Project which was blocked recently on Twitter for abusive doxxing efforts directed at Republican lawyers.  His column captures the level of hateful rhetoric fueled by the Lincoln Project, which is funded by thousands of lawyers despite its attacks on fellow members of the bar for their representation.

“Remember, the Trump GOP is shorn of all ideological and philosophical pretense, and even when Trump leaves office, it’s not over. ‘His cultists’ reign of terror will shape elected GOP members as long as he and his foul spawn walk the earth unpunished. Only exposure, pain, humiliation, and (inshallah) incarceration will lead to a moment of reckoning for the GOP. It should start at the top and work down from there.”

Wilson notes that he is not interested in the “reconciliation” part of “truth and reconciliation,” declaring a “hearty f— no” to people calling for reconciliation. Inside he called for the “motherf—ers” to consider “seppuku.”

Just as I recently criticized Trump counsel Joe diGenova for his rhetoric about drawing and quartering Chris Krebs, I will assume that Wilson is not seriously calling for ritualistic suicides.  However, he is clearly calling for retaliation against Trump supporters as the Lincoln Project has carried out in its campaign.

Others like Elie Mystal, The Nation’s justice correspondent, have called for a “Truth and Reconciliation Commission” to investigate “[a]ll of these moral and ethical failures … and that’s before we get into the actual statutory crimes potentially committed by Trump, his administration, his enablers, and his family.”

The call for a commission to establish the truth of past controversies is ironic given Mystal’s abuse of teenager Nicholas Sandmann.  We previously discussed the case and the example of one such segment involving “Above the Law” writer Joe Patrice in his interview with Mystal, where he attacked this 16 year old boy as a racist.  Patrice agreed with Mystal’s objections to Sandmann wearing his “racist [MAGA] hat.” They also objected to Sandmann doing interviews trying to defend himself with Mystal deriding how this “17-year-old kid makes the George Zimmerman defense for why he was allowed to deny access to a person of color.” Putting aside the fact that Sandmann was not denying “access to a person of color,”  Mystal and Patrice were comparing this high school student to a man who was accused of murdering an unarmed African American kid and even assailing his effort to clear his name as the media continued to label him a racist. Mystal continued to slam Sandmann in postings on “Above the Law.”  In one such posting, Mystal derided Sandmann for filing for defamation. Various media outfits later apologized or settled with Sandmann for their false reporting.

What is most striking about these views is how disconnected they are to the actual election.  Instead a “blue wave” and the widely predicted Democratic takeover of both houses, Republicans picked up a sizable number of seats in the House where Democrats have been reduced to the thinnest margin since World War II. The Republicans may retain the Senate and won handily in many state races across the country. Roughly 74 million people voted for Trump. I was not one of them, but that is roughly half of this nation. Yet, these writers continue to write as if the nation is now unified in rejecting the policies and priorities of the Trump Administration. It is the distortive effect of existing entirely in siloed media spaces where an alternative reality can be maintained and fostered.

My greatest concern is how the media remain detached not only from roughly half of the country but from reality. It has decided that it will cater to literally one half of the country and foster openly biased narratives of what is still unfolding in this country. As I previously discussed, the loss is considerable since the public now has a deep and widening distrust for the media.  The result is that our media is no longer viewed as a place for citizens to resolve questions over things like contested elections. There is only rage where reason once prevailed.

279 thoughts on “Daily Beast Editor Calls For “Humiliation” and “Incarceration” For Trump Supporters”

  1. Perhaps this isn’t the correct forum to ask a question… if so, sorry! Prof. Turley, I am curious if there is any constitutional or legislative or other legal precedent that precludes the DOJ (including the FBI) from investigating some of the issues raised about the recent election? If so, is/are there any federal entities that could/should be investigating these issues?

    1. Human errors do not amount to intentional fraud, and they cut both ways. Multiple courts have explained this to Trump’s attorneys, but they keep on filing because of Trump’s delicate ego that cannot handle rejection. There is no precedent for invalidating ballots or holding an entire new election because of unintentional errors, and Republican candidates down ballot got votes on the same ballot as Biden, so rejection of Trump is what happened here. Even if it were permissible to invalidate ballots, this would deprive down-ballot candidates of their legitimate win, and defeat the will of the voters. It’s never been done, and won’t be done here. There have always been errors in elections, but there’s no proof that anyone cheated Trump. He lost the popular vote and can’t use the Electoral College to defeat the will of the American people in 2020 like he did in 2016. Polls and ratings prove that most Americans do not like or support Trump.

      Trump rants and raves about “winning” early in the evening, and then there were “ballot dumps” that went mostly for Biden and took away his “victory”. This is because it takes longer to compile results from larger cities than rural areas because of a larger population, and this was exactly the way it was predicted to happen. Rural areas tend to be Republican and urban areas tend to be Democratic. Then, there are the mail and absentee ballots that took awhile to tabulate. No one cheated Trump, and he needs to shut up about it and retain whatever dignity he can muster if for no other reason than the office he occupies. He lost because Americans don’t want him in our White House.

  2. Damn! This blog has certainly devolved away from it’s award-winning legal blog status. The question I have is how should we debate on this blog when trying to challenge commenters that believe in their truths and not facts and evidence? I’ve been on this blog long enough to remember when we would debate what law and policy should be within constitutional limits. Allegations of crimes and/or abuse of power were accompanied by actual facts and evidence. Facts and evidence weren’t dismissed or outright ignored. Those days are long gone. How many posts do we get from JT that don’t end up in a scrum? It’s no coincidence that with the rise of the number of Anonymous commenters, civility has decreased. I too have given in to that temptation and I’m not proud of that. That may be cathartic, but it certainly isn’t why I joined this blog. So, for what it’s worth, I’m going to commit to ignoring the scrum. I will focus on facts/evidence, the law and what I understand our DoI and constitution mean for proper governance in our country. I still have plenty to learn about all of that and either I will find that here again or somewhere else.

    1. “It’s no coincidence that with the rise of the number of Anonymous commenters, civility has decreased. I too have given in to that temptation and I’m not proud of that.”

      Olly, devolution is not unnatural. I used to believe that all voices need to be heard just like all votes need to be counted, however, I have learned that neither is true. The singular anonymous voice that can appear in multiples or the singular vote that appears in multiples have the same effect, the eventual devolution of something that is good. Today, I believe in strict posting ID and voter ID so that there is only one post or vote from each single individual even if that compromises the numbers.The alternative is devolution to a chaos that is neither informative nor pleasurable.

      Take note how Paint Chips, the one with the most anonymous labels makes the most complaints about anonymous labels. He has no morality or ethical considerations. He doesn’t respect fair use even though that has now been made clear to everyone. Nor does he respect the host who has informed him of his disrespect.

      He and others like him are true leftist Democrats that will lie cheat and steal. That is who they are. Other Democrats should take note and separate themselves from such trash whether they remain anonymous or not.

      Professor Turley’s attitudes towards free speech are fine but his belief in certain processes has led to this anarchy and division on the blog which is not much different from what we see in the country. The left infects everything it touches and though I greatly respect Professor Turley I think he has a touch of that infection as well.

      1. Today, I believe in strict posting ID and voter ID so that there is only one post or vote from each single individual even if that compromises the numbers. The alternative is devolution to a chaos that is neither informative nor pleasurable.

        I would say the consequences are significantly different between the two. We will still have a country if Turley’s blog continues on this destructive path. If Turley desires to simply run a gladiator games blog masquerading as a legal blog, then he’ll go the way of the Roman Empire. If he wants to run a legal blog that doesn’t function as a bloodsport, then it’s high time he participated. I don’t mean in every discussion or on every thread. I mean he needs to make his presence known and provide his legal opinion on comments. I wouldn’t mind if he corrected something I got wrong. Thanks.

        1. Olly, the comparison was not because the two had equal importance rather that both the blog and voting are faced with similar problems where the solution is nearly the same. Both deteriorate as anonymity increases. Watching what happens in both arenas has slightly changed the way I look at these things.

    2. Olly,
      “I will focus on facts/evidence, the law and what I understand our DoI and constitution mean for proper governance in our country”

      I prefer these sorts of discussions, too. I have not forgotten our earlier discussion. I do aim to continue; I apologize for having to step away.

      Winter sports have started and we are trying support the programs in what ways we can. It may seem like with restrictions there’d be less work, but that is not what I’m finding at all.

      Your questions about the funding of education are important. I want to respond thoughtfully and that is going to take time. I will try to respond soon. This reply all by itself took 20 minutes because of all the interruptions. Sigh.

    3. Olly,

      You could start by admitting that you were a dcck for many years.

      Taunting and insulting posters, snarking at the drop of a hat — essentially pretending you were contributing while you disparaged with juvenile enthusiasm .

      You made your bed over many years, Olly. You, and others, turned this forum into the morass that it is — and you are surprised now? You want relief now?

      You have the courage of a lemming — so brave when surrounded by your ilk — confused when alone.

      Buck up, argue the new reality with the same breath you have shown for so long.

  3. Turley constantly hits left wingers for their obviously irresponsible statements….but leaves alone guys like Trump’s long time attorney who just called for the honest Chris Krebs to be “drawn and quartered, then taken out and shot.”

  4. Project Veritas announces that tonight they will start releasing tapes to explain Jeff Zucker, CNN , etc. PV has been recording Zucker and CNN for months describing motives, political philosophy etc.

    1. Yeah, that Paint Chips guy is a creepy Trumpster. And James O’Keefe is even creepier!!

      Notice how O’Keefe never wears a tie over his cheapie dress shirts. What a doofus he is.

  5. Im calling for incarceration and punishment of Rick Wilson. and traitors to America in general.

    This guy is a tool of the enemy: billionaires

    -Saloth Sar

  6. TYRANNY! Is what it’s called. Many before have tried to avenge, only to suffer the consequences.

  7. Turley Panders To Culture Of Victimhood

    But ‘Who’ Are The Victims Here?

    On Saturday The Washington Post published an extensive feature story describing behind the scenes intrigues at the White House since Election Day (see link below). Said article tells us that Trump expected a replay of the last election in which he would be positioned for an Electoral College-Only victory. Trump connived to simply declare victory when it looked like he might have enough major states in his column. But Fox News completely upended Trump’s plan when they called Arizona for Biden.

    Trump was so insanely p_ssed at Fox, he had Jarrod Kushner call Rupert Murdoch to demand that Fox put Arizona back in play. Murdoch, to his credit, refused to play along. This refusal forced Trump to fall back on Plan A, a scheme Trump had discussed with lawyers since June. The concept was a blizzard of lawsuits alleging ‘voting fraud’ in states where Biden’s lead was thinnest. Trump and his legal team had actually worked-out this plan long before even Labor Day. But the scheme faltered from lack of hard evidence!

    Trump then fell back on Plan B which he had also contemplated in the event of apparent defeat. Plan B was badgering Republican state legislators in states where Biden’s lead was thinnest. Trump hoped that if Republicans and rightwing media all stood behind him (like the impeachment), he could bully his way to victory by simply overriding the Popular Vote. Luckily for America, this scheme was too brazen for even many Republicans.

    In other words, all of Trump’s fraud claims this past month were part of a scheme months in the planning. Trump felt so entitled to the White House that he honestly thought he could litigate and badger his way to a second freak victory. That’s Donald Trump, a New York hustler with no empathy for others. Trump imagined he could simply ride roughshod over public will.

    It never occurred to Trump that he might stain America’s standing as a beacon of democracy. Trump didn’t care if an entire generation lost faith in elections. Trump didn’t care if violence broke out in the streets! In Trump’s mind, it’s all about Donald and NO ONE ELSE.

    Therefore it’s insulting that Johnathan Turley should fall back on his frequent theme of conservative victimhood in these United States. In Turley’s America, Trump is ‘not’ the villain but a martyr for ‘all’ conservative victims. ‘Trump is merely pugnacious because he dares to fight the institutionalized oppression by liberal elitists’. ..That’s how deluded it gets..!


    1. Why is it that everyone else on the blog complies with fair use when quoting the IP of news outlets? It isn’t because Paint Chips doesn’t know better because he has been told..

      It is because Paint Chips is a leftists and leftists cheat all the time and steal other people’s property.

  8. Thanks Sam. Make sure you visit https://populist.press It’s a good substitute for Drudge and provides articles from all over the net with summaries. I think you can send them tips as well.

    I see that a particular anonymous has replied to you and others on a continuous basis. This anonymous has no icon but is recognizable because he seldom says anything of value or provides a rebuttal to what you or another have posted. He doesn’t seem bright enough to write complete sentences but maybe he is rewriting the large print meant for those with limited intelligence.

    1. Sam, the anonymous I was talking about just sent you another comment. I can’t believe the lack of content it contained. It mimics almost everything he writes.

      Quoting anonymous: “The courts don’t agree with you that they’ve done anything illegal.”

      The courts are ruling on specific claims and cures, not whether or not illegalities occurred.

      “There is no real evidence of widespread election fraud”

      One has to ask this anonymous amoeba if “ real evidence “ is the same as evidence? I guess in his world, despite the fact that there is evidence, there is no “ *real* evidence”. This is the mindset of one who has lost the ability to think.

      “only nutty allegations by partisans who are upset that Trump lost.”

      The allegations are real. The issue is whether or not they are sufficient to overturn the results. He is too ignorant to realize that the America as we know it depends on free and fair elections. The questions being asked are questions that need to be asked so that future elections can be accepted by all Americans. In other words today’s questions will hopefully improve tomorrow’s election process. It also has an uphill chance of rectifying the fraud committed this election even though it is a difficult battle for Trump since in a short time period he has to prove his case.

      Both of the above responses were misplaced by WordPress.

  9. You describe the Trump supporters are roughly half the country. They are actually less than half the country and always have been. That is why they lost the election. We have long given too much power to this less than half the country. The more than half the country should govern.

    1. Roughly. You are a fool. The “half” which you associate with Democrats, are pawns whose minds are controlled by billionaires.

      Trump voters are those who have instinctually broken free from billionaire mind control. They are like most Americans, politically immature, and stuck in Enlightenment era slogans and bromides, but their guts lead them in the right direction.

      Please wake up and join the workers and middle class against the true enemy, the billionaires.

      Saloth Sar

        1. Mistah Kurtz, he dead

          You are correct that billionaires seek to control the Republican party too.

          Trump was an outlier. Once this election is in the bag for Biden, the Republicans will likely resume their role as a fake opposition.

          This is why I am saying: billionaires are the enemy. Not the little people, not the opposing party activists, not even the “millionaires,” which is a paltry sum today, rather those above one thouand millions each. they are the enemy

          Saloth sar

          1. Politicians who put billionaires ahead of working people are part of the problem. The Republican Party gives tax breaks to the wealthy and refuses to provide needed help to the poor. The House passed a second aid bill months ago, but McConnell refuses to work on amending it.

            Trump was not an outlier. He’s part of the problem.

      1. Allowing your noble movement to be co-opted by an embarrassment like Trump has set your cause back at least a generation. Sad.

        1. “Brad” try and frame a thought in English worth responding to in detail and then you will get a reply

  10. All Trump supporters need to die, bullet to their heads, burned alive and tossed into the cesspool from which they came.

    1. As a liberal, I object to your violence.

      Trump supporters who don’t understand that they’ve been conned need to learn the truth. Trump supporters like McConnell who helped with the con need to live in infamy in the history books.

  11. Turley, are you okay with the level of mental illness and threats of violence your blog posts produce?

  12. Natacha factually relays the truth and is met with straight up rhetoric and a borderline death threat.

  13. JT: “Roughly 74 million people voted for Trump. I was not one of them…” Almost all of the push for censorship is coming from the Democrats and their allies. So, for all your inveighing against censorship you voted for it? Third party? Write-in? Please!

  14. “Roughly 74 million people voted for Trump. I was not one of them, but that is roughly half of this nation.”
    Hopefully, you wrote in a name ’cause otherwise it’s like being a midwife to socialism.

  15. It’s fun to watch Turley elevate a Daily Beast op-ed to the equal status of a Trump attorney calling for the execution of the Homeland Security cyber security chief who Trump just fired. The Daily Beast has a circulation of 1 million. 155 million people voted in the 2020 election. An incredibly tiny fraction of our country’s voters have ever heard of the Daily Beast. Virtually every one of them knows Trump & his attorneys are on a mission to overturn election results & invalidate millions of Biden ballots.

    JT’s greatest concern is how the media is detached from reality? 52% of Trump voters believe Trump won the 2020 election. Polls show roughly half of Trump supporters believe Trump won the 2016 popular vote & believe Obama wasn’t born in the US. Turley is well aware those Trump voters don’t read the Daily Beast or watch CNN & Meet the Press.

    Turley presumably doesn’t believe Trump is detached from reality despite firing Krebs for verifying an extensive investigation by 59 of our country’s top cyber security experts found no evidence of any votes being changed, altered or compromised. Turley talks about the rising threats to Trump supporters & attorneys but completely ignores Krebs is now receiving death threats as are Georgia & Arizona’s Republican Governors & Georgia’s Secretary of State after Trump publicly attacked them for the crime of certifying election results to confirm Biden won their states.

    If Turley truly yearns for fair & balanced reporting, he still has a long way to go.

    1. “Trump supporters & attorneys but completely ignores Krebs is now receiving death threats as are Georgia & Arizona’s Republican Governors & “….

      Sounds like the offender is blaming half the nation who have been threatened by the left. The threats include violence, loss of job, harassment, etc. Does Race Pace sound familiar to anyone else?

      MUST WATCH…TCF Center Elections Observers Testify on the Massive Democrat Vote Fraud

      December 1, 2020 6:54 AM
      Over the past three weeks The Gateway Pundit and our team in Detroit have interviewed DOZENS of GOP elections observers who were threatened, abused, attacked and harassed at the TCF Center in Detroit, Michigan following the 2020 election landslide for President Donald Trump.

      Several of these observers witnessed carloads of ballots arriving at the center in the middle of the night on November 4th marked for Joe Biden.



  16. I’m damn proud to be a Trump supporter and a TRUE American, not a rectal orifice like the demonazis and the Lincoln Project twits.

    1. You are sad, truly sad. I find it impossible to respect anyone who is “damn proud” to support a person who has no real accomplishments in life other than bluster, bloviating and creating a false image of wealth, power, success and talent that he lacks. He is famous for being famous, and not for any actual personal accomplishments other than performing on television and pretending to be wealthy and powerful. Trump family wealth came from taxpayers–his father got government grants to pay to construct apartments for returning soldiers. They were cheaply constructed, but Daddy got rich. Trump was supported by his father well into his forties, and when his Daddy wasn’t around or competent enough to keep bailing him out, the bankruptcies started–6 of them so far. So did the multiple divorces–3 so far. This person is seriously mentally ill with narcissism and he is a sociopathic liar to boot. He took the successful economy inherited from Barak Obama and turned it into the worst economic recession since the Great Depression. More than a quarter million Americans died due to his cluelessness on how to handle the pandemic that he lied about and called a “hoax” by Democrats. He pushed for emergency approval of a drug that is not effective and wouldn’t support wearing masks, which has led to unnecessary spread of this highly contagious disease. Now, America has the worst record for infections and deaths. He has trashed America’s reputation abroad, and we have the worst trade deficit in 14 years. Migrants are caged for seeking asylum in the US, and their children are removed from them as punishment and as a deterrent to others considering coming here. The majority of Americans never supported him, didn’t vote for him either in 2016 or 2020, and want him gone. According to him, the only possible explanation must be fraud and cheating by Democrats and maybe even the DOJ and FBI. His mental illness does not allow for the possibility of failure.

      Tell us just why you are so “damn proud” of this creature. I can’t figure it out. Haven’t enough Americans gotten sick, died or lost their jobs to suit you? You wanted more?

      1. A thriving economy, energy independence, the facilitating of Middle East issues resolution resulting in Nobel Prize nominations, the extraction of this country from costly and non productive foreign conflicts, enforcing established law, the Warp Speed project now showing success in record time: That is why close to a 74 million people voted for Trump. Reality can be hard for those who can’t see beyond their own blind prejudices.

        1. The economy isn’t thriving for people making under $100K. It’s thriving for the rich. There’s significant unemployment, many people on the verge of eviction, businesses lost because the Trump’s mishandling of Covid, hundreds of thousands of lives lost unnecessarily.

          Trump hasn’t extracted us from any foreign conflicts. He’s worsened our relationships with most allies.

          Trump doesn’t enforce established law. He’s broken the law himself, and he hands out pardons and commutations to his cronies. He will likely be indicted once he’s out of office.

          You can thank scientists, not Trump, for the vaccine efforts.

          1. The virology community is corrupted by Gates foundation donations

            Here’s a virologist who is not corrupt. Jean Luc Montaignier won the Nobel prize sequencing HIV and here is now telling the truth: the Sars Cov 2 virus was made in a lab.


            COVID is a real disease with a real pathogen, albeit a lab made one, but it has low lethality. It is a test run for the one which comes in the future, which will have a much higher lethality. This will cull the herd per billionaire dreams and desires. They do not need us in the time of AI and robotics. And the time in which they have total control over central banks to inflate their wealth. We are useless CO2 emitters and they want to kill off half the human population to achieve the “carbon neutral economy.”

            It is coming and you read it here first. You will remember when I warned you.

            Billionaires are the enemy.

            Saloth Sar

          2. Barak Obama is the POTUS who achieved energy independence. Today, a watchdog group reported that unemployment numbers were way below actual unemployment counts due to the sheer number of applicants for benefits and the lag in reporting. So, the unemployment rate is much higher than we think. The Nobel nomination was from a crony with no credibility whatsoever. And, as for COVID statistics, Trump took away responsibility for compiling and reporting this information from the CDC and gave it to HHS. The numbers there are artificially low, too. In other words, things are way worse than we think.

            People who voted for Trump are either those gullible enough to believe the lies: that he’s a successful, self-made billionaire who is talented and a fabulous deal-maker, or those who don’t like consumer and environmental protections and/or don’t want to pay a fair share of taxes. You have to overlook a lot of serious failures to support this person.

            1. but wait. you said here before Trump lied and is not a billionaire, really. I believe you

              because billionaires are the enemy, and you are their lackey

              Saloth Sar

      2. natacha:

        “You are sad, truly sad. I find it impossible to respect anyone who is “damn proud” to support a person who has no real accomplishments in life other than bluster, bloviating and creating a false image of wealth, power, success and talent that he lacks.”
        He’s worth over a billion, married a model,owns more properties than you can count, won a historic Presidential election and has a great family. Oh … and jealousy is a bad look for you.

        1. Marrying a model is an accomplishment? She wouldn’t even join him in DC until she’d renegotiated her prenup.

          He inherited money and would be doing better if he’s invested in a mutual fund. Only his base thinks he has a great family.

        2. Let’s see the real financials, Mespo, and then we’ll talk about net worth. How do you know whether “he” “owns” anything? He’s in debt up to his pompadour, and beholden to who knows whom for breathtaking amounts of money, payment of which is coming due soon. Multiple properties are way underwater. So, you think marrying an uneducated former stripper and soft-core porn model is an accomplishment to be proud of? Is she supposed to be a role model for young girls? Obviously-purchased nookie is a bad look to those other than the gullible Trump supporters, and Trump wants it that way: the ever-stillettoed Melania, sporting newly-bleached hair, tripping around in her 4-inch designer pumps with a fat man old enough to be her father who brags about grabbing women and who cheated on her, too, like his other wives. He didn’t “win” an “historic” election either–he cheated with Russia’s help, just like he’s cheated at everything else in his life–cheated contractors, craftsmen, material suppliers, even his own family members. Read Dr. Mary Trump’s book for details on how he vindictively removed his newborn nephew from the Trump family health insurance policy right after he was born with a seizure disorder and needed to go to the NICU because his brother Fred did something he didn’t like. “Great family”? According to whom? They are the fodder for comedy routines, especially Jr. and Eric. Ivanka is a bleached lightweight and embarrassment to this country. People literally walked away from her while she was talking when to trotted her out at an economic summit.

          Trump was rejected by the majority of Americans who can’t wait for him to leave our White House.

        3. Mespo always confuses net worth with worth.

          Mespo also has an affinity for models — as if “having” a model grants special passage to masculinity.

          Given that he spends time loading ammo — by his own admission — readying for the next civil war while making a living chasing ambulances — what can one say — ignore the classicist quoter as one who disrupts his own.

          1. R lien:
            Your analysis is as superficial as your comments. I don’t have an affinity for models. I have an affinity for proven facts like indicia of Trump’s success. I don’t spend my time “loading ammo” and defy you to find where I said that. I spend my time in preparation like every good trial lawyer. I prepare in my private life too and when I see potential danger, I buy into safety. I don’t think a civil war is inevitable. I think a spanking for the Left is. No war — the Left doesn’t have the guts or quality of leadership for that. Lying is a bad trait but worse than that is not understanding what you’ve read yet decrying it. That is the essence of stupid whether classically of nouveau.

  17. The Plot Thickens in Georgia

    On Sunday, Federal judge Timothy Batten ordered that the voting machines used in three Georgia counties *not* be wiped clean. His order prohibits the “altering, destroying, or erasing, or allowing the alteration, destruction, or erasure of, any software or data on any *Dominion* voting machine in Cobb, Gwinnett, and Cherokee Counties.” (emphasis added)

    That order, a prelude to a forensic analysis of the machines, is the result of the Georgia lawsuit filed by Sidney Powell. According to her report, as the judge was issuing his order, one of the computer servers mysteriously “disappeared.” Some working on those fraud suits have been harassed and assaulted.

    With their last breath, the blind will claim: “There’s no evidence.” “Conspiracy theories.” “There’s nothing to see here, move along.”

    1. Sydney Powell is nuts. Since Trump lost the popular vote in 2016, has never captured even a 50% approval rating since, and since we have historic unemployment, an historically bad economy, a pandemic raging out of control and the worse death rate of any civilized country, why would any reasonable person believe that Trump could “win” an election that Russia was unable to help him cheat with this time around?

      1. Why? Because the reasonable person is reasonable and knows that the Russia thing was a lie and knows that Biden’s policies will be a disaster for this nation.

        1. Just like the Obama/Biden policies that were in place when the country was handed off to Trump in 2016? Obama/Biden turned around what had been, up to that point, the worst economy since the Great Depression. Trump destroyed it in 4 short years.

          “The Russia thing” was an investigation into how Russia helped Trump cheat. Trump refused to cooperate for an interview or deposition, procured the absence of other key witnesses, refused to turn over documents, and otherwise obstructed justice, but then claimed he was “exonerated” by a fair investigation. Only Fox News disciples don’t understand these truths because they are gullible enough to believe the lies put out by Trump syncophants on Fox.

          1. And the “Russia thing” is the blue print for how to prosecute trumpy bear for obstruction once he doesn’t have the cover of the office to protect him.

            Repubs have a way of leaving the country in economic smoldering ruins, don’t they? But hey, don’t let that stop them from claiming the banner of being prudent financial policy advocates.

            -Elvis Bug

    2. The ignoratti such as Joe Friday, and anonymous with and without an icon provide cover for those petty ignorant wannabe bullies that either want to rule others or can’t even rule themselves.

      1. The Dominion machines were backed up by paper ballots and counting them confirmed the results.

        By the way, of counties using Dominion machines in the swing states in question, Trump won the majority.

      1. People allege all sorts of nutty things.

        So far, Trump and his allies have filed dozens of law suits and they’ve lost all but 1 (a small one in PA).

        States have to certify their votes by Dec. 8. Lots of states have already done this, including AZ, WI, MI, NV, PA and GA. The electors will vote on Dec. 14.

        Trump lost the election.

        1. “States have to certify their votes by Dec. 8. Lots of states have already done this, including AZ, WI, MI, NV, PA and GA.”

          If a CEO signed those types of “certifications,” he and his company would be bankrupted, and he’d be in jail.

          1. The courts don’t agree with you that they’ve done anything illegal.

            There is no real evidence of widespread election fraud, only nutty allegations by partisans who are upset that Trump lost.

                  1. the lying press and social media ignore the fraud, because they are controlled by billionaires, who wanted it.

                    they own all the judges too. and the CIA and FBI and pentagon. countless universities and bureaucracies everywhere. we are mentally programmed to submit to them, it’s in our “culture” such as it is, defective as we now can see.

                    it is Trump’s people who are indeed nuts if they think a few lawsuits will undo what the billionaires have decreed, ie, the biden won.
                    I was a Trump voter and fan but I knew when i woke up the day after, that the victory was stolen. no lawyers will be able to get it back.

                    the billionaires are the enemy and they can only be tamed with the political force of organized violence which physically restricts and reigns them in and expropriates their $

                    Saloth Sar.

    3. Pennsylvania Bombshell: Biden 99.4% v. Trump 0.6%
      Stunning testimony that the media has dutifully ignored.

      An expert testifying to the Pennsylvania Senate flagged a batch of ballots that recorded some 570,000 votes for Joe Biden and only 3,200 for Donald Trump….

      Mastriano has called what happened “unacceptable,” and has called for the resignation of Pennsylvania Secretary of State Kathy Boockvar….

      A quote from Lt Col. Waldren: “At the very beginning of the chart, where there’s a circle that says “On Election Day,” what that indicates is there’s a spike in loaded votes. 337,000-plus-or-minus-some votes that were added in there in one big batch. So that was an anomaly in the reporting. Normally you would expect to see a smooth curve going up, not any big spikes, that’s kind of what Greg was talking about, the anomalies of loading and uploading those votes. So that big spike that occurs there is a prime indicator of fraudulent voting.”

      Where is the media?


      1. The media is following orders from their billionaire ownership and ignoring this.

        Billionaires are the enemy. They must be destroyed. This is information war on us, and political warfare too. War on us, the workers and middle class. We have one advantage which we have not used, yet. Physical strength. We must dare. Those who dare, win

        Saloth Sar

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