Washington Post Columnist Calls For Expulsion Of Members Who Challenged Electoral Votes

Washington Post columnist Jennifer Rubin is calling for the expulsion of Republican members for challenging the electoral votes this week as “sedition.”  From the outset, I opposed this challenge as unfounded.  However, think about this demand (which has been raised by others).  Rubin wants to expel members who joined challenges allowed under a federal law (on the very same grounds that Democrats have made in past elections). Indeed, she declares “Every Republican bears a responsibility for what happened on Wednesday, whether or not they participated in a seditious attempt to overthrow our democracy.” So Republicans who opposed the challenge and denounced the violence should still be punished or blamed?

Moreover, Rubin objects to how these members used “disinformation” to incite violence but proceeds to misrepresent both the law and the record. For example, she singles out figures like Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.)  who stated previously that he did not believe that Vice President Michael Pence had the authority to simply “send back” such electoral votes.

Rubin states these members “knew the objections were baseless. They saw the violent results triggered by disinformation, yet they doubled down on Republicans’ sedition.”  As is often the case in her columns, Rubin seems to reconstruct reality to fit her preferred conclusion. She accuses these members of “inciting” rioters by making the very same challenge brought by Democrats in past elections involving Republican presidents. She does not call for those Democratic members to be expelled.

In January 2005, Boxer joined former Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones to challenge George W. Bush’s victory over Democratic challenger John Kerry in the state of Ohio. I was working for CBS in that election and shared concerns over the voting irregularities. At the time, Boxer argued that Republicans had engaged in voter suppression that contributed to Bush’s victory.  The media and Democratic leadership was highly supportive. Indeed, many who are condemning the challenge today heaped praise on Boxer in 2004. There was no hue and cry in the media over anti-democratic measures and refusing to respect the election results. For example, Speaker Nancy Pelosi has called the current challenge an assault on democracy but, in the 2004 election challenge, she praised Boxer’s challenge as “witnessing Democracy at work. This isn’t as some of our Republican colleagues have referred to it, sadly, as frivolous. This debate is fundamental to our democracy.”

Notably, many Democrats like Sen. Chris Van Hollen, D-Md., raised analogous complaints over voting systems and insisted that “as Americans, we should all be troubled by reports of voting problems in many parts of the country.” Sen. Dick Durbin has also denounced the challenge this year but took to the Senate floor to praise Boxer in 2005.  He declared “Some may criticize our colleague from California for bringing us here for this brief debate. I thank her for doing that because it gives members an opportunity once again on a bipartisan basis to look at a challenge that we face not just in the last election in one State but in many States.”

Moreover, it is not “sedition” to use a federal law allowing for such challenges.  Sedition is an attempt to overthrow the rule of law.  Indeed, these members stated that they wanted to highlight the voting irregularities just as Boxer did in 2004. The use of such a law is not an invitation to riot. Moreover, when liberal groups rioted at the Trump inauguration, Rubin did not blame Democratic members refusing to recognize Trump as the legitimate president.

During Trump’s speech, I was tweeting out objections to his statements and defending those he was attacking. I have denounced the speech as reckless and wrong.  However, the effort to weaponize this incident against Republican members is unfair.

What is most chilling is Rubin’s absurd standard proposed for the expulsion of members:

Each chamber can enact a simple rule: “No member shall retain a seat if he or she endeavors to overthrow the results of an election, file frivolous lawsuits seeking to do the same or seek to pressure any election official to change the results of an election.”

Under that standard, any member who filed a lawsuit deemed “frivolous” by Rubin or others could be expelled. Likewise, any challenge to electoral votes under the Electoral Count Act is clearly viewed by Rubin to be sedition . . . unless you are a Democrat. So we have seen a slew of meritless lawsuits over the last four years from Democratic members. The lawsuits were dismissed. Would they also be expelled?  Rubin is calling for a federal law that would allow an entirely subjective standard for the expulsion of members.

Fortunately, the Washington Post cannot rewrite the Constitution for allow for such mob rule.  What Rubin is suggesting would raise serious constitutional problems as a majority party punishes members for taking positions or filing cases that it deems “frivolous” or seditious.

For full disclosure, I clashed with Rubin over her personally attacking me for a theory that I did not agree with in a column that I did not write. I also challenged her on an equally bizarre column where she wrote about my impeachment testimony with a clearly false account of a “concession” pulled out of me by counsel Norm Essen, the very same source that she used in a later column that misrepresented the holding in an appellate case involving Trump. That false account was never corrected the Washington Post.

The reason that columns like this are being printed is that they are largely protected from contradiction in most of the mainstream media. Indeed, in siloed media like the Washington Post, readers are largely protected from opposing views.  Rubin can misrepresent an actual holding and not be subject to a correction.  This proposed expulsion standard is an attack on free speech and representational rights. Yet, it is being applauded by those who want to use this riot to cleanse Congress and cancel opposing viewpoints.

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  1. Shill On The Siege:

    MEDIA PUNDITS: “IT WAS NO SURPRISE”

    On all the Friday wrap-ups I kept hearing the same phrase: “It was no surprise” regarding the siege.

    Yet most of Washington went to work Wednesday expecting only a big demonstration. Perhaps it was assumed Republicans could control the demonstrations. Security was lax, maybe, as a show of faith. Like, “Stay away from the building and you can yell as much as you want”.

    Personally I believe the siege could have ended much worse. A spooked cop might have opened fire; shooting wildly as sometimes happens. We should be grateful that gunfire was somewhat limited. Most of the invaders were tame by terrorist standards.

    In strict, factual terms we had a defeated President personally directed legions of angry supporters with instructions “Not to be nice”. They then invaded The Capitol on the very day that Congress would certify that President’s defeat.

    Only a Trumper could think Donald Trump mean’t no harm Wednesday. It was a defeated president refusing to leave. He incited angry mobs to invade in the U.S. Capitol. That’s treason, sedition, insurrection, whatever you want to call it.

    Trump’s motives are evil. Like he’ll leave when he wants. Trump keep repeating conspiracies regardless of court defeasts. As though 2 months of court rejections means nothing whatsoever.

    Trump doubles-down on conspiracies as a matter of habit. Like he can improvise the truth. The truth can be whatever Trump says. Or so he calculates. That’s the mark of strongman convinced of his own brilliance.

  2. “This was a whitelash against a changing country.”

    “This was a whitelash against a black president.”

    – Comrade Van Jones
    _________________

    What happened to “Whitelash 2, The Sequel?”

    It was cancelled due to “China Flu, 2020.”

    Looks like the crowd wanted to see it anyway.

    1. “Former police captain, chief killed by [BLM and Antifa] rioters while defending north St. Louis pawn shop”

      77-year-old David Dorn has shot and killed by looters while protecting Lee’s Pawn and Jewelry from rioters. No suspects have been arrested in his death at this time.

      – KMOV, St. Louis

      1. Why on earth are you bringing up news from last June and pretending that your report is current?

        They arrested several people, including Stephan Cannon, Mark Jackson, Samuel Simpson, Jimmie Robinson and James Johnson.

  3. If you want free speech; if you want freedom; cancel your Twitter and Facebook account now.

    They need you more than you need them.

    1. Young, that’s a good idea. Trumpers should get off social media. From here on Trumpers should communicate by carrier pigeon.

      1. He didn’t say leave social media – he said cancel our Twitter and Facebook accounts (I canceled my Twitter account today – it had become too toxic, and Twitter is in the process of massively purging conservative voices).

        Unless you were admitting Twitter and Facebook have near monopolies on social media. In that case, I agree with you, and hope you join us in repealing Section 230 immunities…

    2. January 8, 2021 ought to live in infamy as the date known as the Democrats cyber version of the “Night of the Long Knives”.

      January 8, 2021 is the date the Democrat aligned Silicon Valley monopolists helped Democrats consolidate their power by purging their political opponents from the cyber public square.

      There is no Rohm with a knife stuck in his heart. But there can be no mistake the Democrats cyber henchmen took out the Democrats political opponents just as Hitler directed his henchmen to do on that infamous night.

      In a massive sweep, the Democrat aligned monopolists purged the private Twitter accounts of the President of the United States; that of retired 3 star Lieutenant General Flynn; Sidney Powell – a high profile attorney who has supported both the President and the General. Dan Bongino. An attorney who goes by the name TechnoFrog, whose Twitter commentary consisted mostly of analyzing legal briefs relating to the political prosecution of General Flynn was banned. Google banned Parler – a communication tool many of the President’s supporters migrated to after being censored by Twitter. Apple gave Parler 24 hours to rearrange its business affairs to comply with Apple’s demands. Failure to submit to Apple’s demands will result in Apple purging Parler.

      On January 8, 2021 Democrats and their monopolist henchmen killed the principle of free speech in the cyber public square to help them consolidate power. A date that should forever live in infamy.

  4. “Violence in the Capitol, Dangers in the Aftermath”

    “From the Cold War to the War on Terror: the harms from authoritarian “solutions” are often greater than the threats they are ostensibly designed to combat.”

    Glenn Greenwald

    Jan 7

    https://greenwald.substack.com/p/violence-in-the-capitol-dangers-in

    Excerpt:

    As is true of every faction, there are right-wing activists filled with rage and who are willing to engage in violence. Some of them are dangerous (just as some Muslims in the post-9/11 era, and some Antifa nihilists, were and are genuinely violent and dangerous). But as was true of the Cold War and the War on Terror and so many other crisis-spurred reactions, the other side of the ledger — the draconian state powers clearly being planned and urged and prepared in the name of stopping them — carries its own extremely formidable dangers.

    Refusing to consider those dangers for fear of standing accused of downplaying the threat is the most common tactic authoritarian advocates of state power use. Less than twenty-four hours after the Capitol breach, one sees this tactic being wielded with great flamboyance and potency, and it is sure to continue long after January 20.

    -Glenn Greenwald

  5. “Wednesday’s Other Story”

    “On the case of Julian Assange, and fearing empire more than Trump”

    Matt Taibbi
    6 hr ago

    https://taibbi.substack.com/p/wednesdays-other-story

    Excerpt:

    In conjunction with the widespread recent crackdowns on other kinds of speech by tech platforms, the continued exile of other transgressors like Snowden, and the rehabilitation of people like former CIA chief John Brennan, who committed perjury about these issues in the congressional chamber whose violated sanctity so infuriated America this week, it’s an enormous power grab — not a temporary one like the Capitol occupation, but a permanent, far-reaching assertion of institutional dominance.

    In our discussion with Maurizi this week, she talked about having her phone seized and its contents stolen by yet another American mercenary firm, as part of a sweep apparently done to every visitor to Assange in the embassy years. “They secretly unscrewed my phone,” she said, adding that data and pictures from her sim card were downloaded, her conversations with Assange recorded. “And they knew I was a journalist,” she said.

    Even though at least one of the affected journalists visiting the embassy was from the Washington Post, there was almost no reaction here at all. We’ve become inured to these violations. The authoritarian behaviors that freaked people out in the Bush and early Obama years have become as invisible as air to most Americans, who, lucky for many, mostly stopped following that bouncing ball the moment Trump arrived. Now Trump is on his way out, but the lockdown era is just beginning. You’ll forgive me if I’m more scared of that than the other thing.

    -Matt Taibbi

    1. You may enjoy perusing this “vow” from “right-wing extremists,” circa 1776:
      __________________________________________________________

      “But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.”

      – The Declaration of Independence of the American Founding Fathers, July 4, 1776

    1. “Plans for future armed protests have already begun proliferating on and off-Twitter, including a proposed secondary attack on the US Capitol and state capitol buildings on January 17, 2021.”

      I hope they’re all better prepared next time.

      I hope that Trump will act like a patriot and seriously address the nation, encouraging all Americans not to engage in further violence. He could draw attention to the FBI’s photos of people they’re trying to identify –
      https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/seeking-info/violence-at-the-united-states-capitol
      https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/seeking-info/violence-at-the-united-states-capitol-2
      He could acknowledge that Biden will be President and wish him well for the country’s sake, but I doubt he will. What a baby he is, not to attend the inauguration.

    2. The YouTube account for Steve Bannon’s “War Room” podcast “has been terminated for a violation of YouTube’s Terms of Service.”

    3. Google announced it’s suspending Parler from the Google Play store for violating its Terms, suspension lasts until it addresses the problem.

      1. Apple has given Parler a 24 hour ultimatum to implement a moderation plan or it’s getting kicked from the Apple app store too.

    4. Donald Trump Jr. complains “We are living Orwell’s 1984. Free-speech no longer exists in America.”

      What a load. His dad can hold a press conference whenever he wants.

      Jr. also seems not to understand the plot of 1984.

      1. Sure, he can hold a press conference, but the Democrat controlled media won’t accurately cover it, and Twitter and Youtube will censor it.

        Big Brother turned out to be political activist private companies. Democrats took control of preK-grad school. Public school and higher education has turned into Democrat madrassas. If you don’t believe this, check out many of Turley’s articles on bias and censorship at universities. Democrats also control Big Tech. Everything from Google searches, Facebook, Youtube, Twitter to Shopify are all Democrat controlled.

        Only someone who hasn’t been censored or had his party censored across the board would mock this problem. You may like authoritarianism when it’s directed at the other party, but one day its eye will turn upon you.

        1. Why don’t you look up the number of people who work in the media, in education, in big tech who are Republicans, because you’re assuming an awful lot that you don’t provide evidence for.

          Whatever individual for-profit companies decide to do, C-Span will stream it in its entirety. Why do you ignore C-Span?

          You should (re)read 1984. For-profit companies are not the government.

          It’s ludicrous to suggest that Turley’s columns are a random or representative sample; they are not.

          1. CSPAN isn’t the same as it was when Brian Lamb was there. Now that he’s gone, CSPAN is subpar. Remember Steve Scully? The debate moderator who lied and was obviously biased against Trump and got caught then suspended? Well now he’s back after a few months of vacation. You can’t get FIRED for anything in the media these days unless you offend the Left, of course.

            https://www.foxnews.com/media/c-span-steve-scully-return

          2. Why don’t yoiu show us the number of people who work in the mainstream media, who are Republicans. We would all be very interested to know. You can probably list them on one hand if you can identify them at all.

      2. You are the load mr anonymous. You list the opening shots of mass censorship and you seem to , no you rather do delight in it. You are the useful tool of the krystallnacht apparatchiks. You either love this and know it , or are a complete blind partisan that will do their bidding like a good blunt tool. Which is it ?.

  6. With reference to the riots in major cities Kamala Harris said to Stephen Colbert, “They’re not gonna stop,…they should not stop….”

    Impeach Kamala Harris for inciting riots and insurrection.

  7. ‘The conservative movement is about to face a level of collective discrimination by the institutions of our society not seen since Jim Crow.’

    @willchamberlain

    1. ‘Watching the left orgasm over the government’s use of power on private citizens is the return to normalcy we were promised.’ @cernovich

    2. REGARDING ABOVE:

      This is about as insulting as it gets. To suggest that older Whites, in small towns, will now face every day humiliations like Blacks in the old, Jim Crow South defies all logic. It’s the kind of crap our troll keeps posting just to saturate these threads with far-right talking points. It also reflects an obsession by Trumpers to cast themselves as ‘victims’.

      1. To suggest that older Whites, in small towns, will now face every day humiliations like Blacks in the old, Jim Crow South defies all logic.

        Yes Paint Chips, your logic should be insulted. Conservativism is not a color. Liberalism is not a color. Socialism is not a color. They are ideas that people believe in. And each of these beliefs are comprised of people of various demographics. Jim Crow laws were a violation of civil rights…period. Will’s comment was spot on. The people of those various demographics that believe in the conservative principles our nation was founded on, will see discrimination (violation of their civil rights)…period.

          1. Well, if true, maybe some of those who currently lack understanding will gain some.

            What understanding do you presume conservatives don’t have?

        1. Olly endorses insultingly stupid posts!

          Olly would have us believe that White conservatives will now have to sit on the back of the bus. And use separate bathroom facilities. And be forced to live in sub-standard neighborhoods. Olly joins the troll’s obsession with embracing victimhood. Because ‘victims’ have a justification to be as mean as possible in fighting their ‘oppressors’.

          Trump and his minions made every effort possible to nullify Black votes in Philadelphia, Detroit, Milwaukee and Atlanta. And now that Trump has failed in those attempts, his supporters seek to portray themselves as victims like Blacks. ..Go figure..!

          1. Anonymous:

            Will Chamberlain said that conservatives would be discriminated against at a collective level not seen since Jim Crow.

            Do you read that to mean that if exactly the same measures as Jim Crow are not taken, then it’s NOT the most discrimination against a group since that time? What if conservatives get to share bathrooms, but they’re not allowed to work, become judges, or hold higher office? They’re already discriminated against in academia. No matter how expert they are in their field, it is very difficult for qualified conservatives to get hired and gain tenure.

            Already, the Left will try to ruin your business, get you fired, and impoverish you for not toeing the line. An example is if you object to the racism and anti-cop rhetoric inherent in BLM’s platform. Social media will censor you. Youtube will demonetize you and take away your ability to earn a living. Hollywood won’t hire you. You’re blackballed like McCarthyism.

            Democrats are talking about getting lists of Trump voters to ensure they never work again. The same people who said Trump stole the 2016 election, called him an illegitimate president working for Russia, and the endless talk of impeachment, suddenly want to imprison politicians who objected to the Electoral College vote because they want an investigation. Raising election integrity concerns was de rigueur up until a month ago. Now it’s sedition. Because it’s conservatives doing it.

            Abusing civil rights does not require a separate drinking fountain.

            If you do not trouble to check the authoritarian, despotic tendencies of Leftism, it will soon be too late to stop it.

            The Left wants a strong government, at the expense of individual rights, for the “common good” as defined by Democrats. History is clear on the results of this paradigm. What’s it going to take for you to acknowledge Democrats have a problem? Arm bands?

            1. Karen, Trump and his supporters used social media to organize a siege on the capitol. And here you are, just 2 days later, pretending all conservatives now face institutional discrimination. It’s all an aggressive effort to embrace victimhood after attempting to overturn an election.

    1. The NFL has up to 400 million eyes on every second of the Super Bowl and unassailable Instant Replay.

      America has courts and legislatures which won’t hear one word of demonstrable election grievances.

      The American Communist Deep Deep State is going to ensconce Commie-Lie Ho-riss, who couldn’t get one dollar in campaign contributions or one vote in the primaries, and there’s nothing anyone can do about it.

      Now the ACDDS is going to Implement the Truth Commission of the The Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution and, whereas the Naturalization Acts of 1790, 1795, 1798 and 1802 required citizens to be “…free white person(s)…,” white persons will now be prosecuted to the fullest extent of hyphenate and minority dependent-envy in conjunction with paradoxical liberal self-loathing.

      Whatever happened, America?

      You’ve come a long way, baby!

    1. That’s what I was thinking, too. Looking at some the vile attacks on Professor Turley even here I have no doubt they are itching to shut him up and, if possible, destroy him.

      Speaking up for free speech is hate speech these days for these people.

      1. I’m a leftist who thinks JT should be able to say whatever he wants and be criticized when it’s garbage. Criticism isn’t an attempt to shut him up, only to call out his garbage.

        1. The “debris” which Professor Turley generated and I absolutely love the best is that Obama and Kamala Harris are natural born citizens and eligible for president, which, of course, they are irrefutably not.

          To wit,

          Kamala Harris (and Obama) will NEVER be eligible to be U.S. president.

          Kamala Harris’ parents were foreign citizens at the time of her birth.

          – A mere “citizen” could only have been President at the time of the adoption of the Constitution but not after.

          – The U.S. Constitution, Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5, requires the President to be a “natural born citizen,” which, by definition in the Law of Nations, requires “parents who are citizens” at the time of birth of the candidate and that he be “…born of a father who is a citizen;…”

          – Ben Franklin thanked Charles Dumas for copies of the Law of Nations which “…has been continually in the hands of the members of our Congress, now sitting,…”

          – “The importance of The Law of Nations, therefore, resides both in its systematic derivation of international law from natural law and in its compelling synthesis of the modern discourse of natural jurisprudence with the even newer language of political economy. The features help to explain the continuing appeal of this text well into the nineteenth century among politicians, international lawyers and political theorists of every complexion,” Law of Nations Editors Bela Kapossy and Richard Whatmore.

          – The Jay/Washington letter of July, 1787, raised the presidential requirement from citizen to “natural born citizen” to place a “strong check” against foreign allegiances by the commander-in-chief.

          – Every American President before Obama had two parents who were American citizens.

          – The Constitution is not a dictionary and does not define words or phrases like “natural born citizen” as a dictionary, while the Law of Nations, 1758, did.

          ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

          Law of Nations, Vattel, 1758

          Book 1, Ch. 19

          § 212. Citizens and natives.

          “The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.”

          ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

          Ben Franklin letter December 9, 1775, thanking Charles Dumas for 3 copies of the Law of Nations:

          “…I am much obliged by the kind present you have made us of your edition of Vattel. It came to us in good season, when the circumstances of a rising state make it necessary frequently to consult the law of nations. Accordingly that copy, which I kept, (after depositing one in our own public library here, and sending the other to the College of Massachusetts Bay, as you directed,) has been continually in the hands of the members of our Congress, now sitting, who are much pleased with your notes and preface, and have entertained a high and just esteem for their author…”

          ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

          To George Washington from John Jay, 25 July 1787

          From John Jay

          New York 25 July 1787

          Dear Sir

          I was this morning honored with your Excellency’s Favor of the 22d

          Inst: & immediately delivered the Letter it enclosed to Commodore

          Jones, who being detained by Business, did not go in the french Packet,

          which sailed Yesterday.

          Permit me to hint, whether it would not be wise & seasonable to

          provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the

          administration of our national Government, and to declare expressly that the Command in chief

          of the american army shall not be given to, nor devolved on, any but a natural born Citizen.

          Mrs Jay is obliged by your attention, and assures You of her perfect

          Esteem & Regard—with similar Sentiments the most cordial and sincere

          I remain Dear Sir Your faithful Friend & Servt

          John Jay

            1. [Really pithy retort there, Einstein. And as worthless as all of your comments – all snark, no content…]

              George cites historical passages backing up the Founder’s reasons for why the phrase “natural born citizen” was included in the qualifications for President, and all you can do is question his mental state. Lame…

              1. George is a deeply sick person, Allen.

                He thinks women shouldn’t have the right to vote and complains that they’re not bearing enough children.

                He thinks Black Americans should lose their citizenship and be sent to live in Africa.

                He calls anyone who isn’t far right a communist.

                Maybe you’re not familiar enough with his comments to understand how sick he is.

                I already understand why the phrase “natural born citizen” was included in the qualifications for President.

                George is deluded to believe that Obama and Kamala Harris are “irrefutably not” natural born citizens and not eligible to be president.

                How about you, Allen, do you accept that they’re natural born citizens?

                Do you think the Chief Justice broke his own oath to uphold the Constitution when he swore Obama in as President, and that he’ll do it again when he swears Harris in? George believes that.

                1. You might have impeached the arguments with facts and evidence.

                  You chose ad hominem, with which you conceded.

                  Thank you so much.
                  ________________

                  – Biden projects that Americans will be the “minority” by 2040.

                  – The Founders required citizens to be “…free white person(s).”

                  – Planning for compassionate repatriation of slaves began in 1714, later including Lincoln, for the self-esteem, sense of nationhood and benefit of slaves.

                  – The Israelite slaves were out of Egypt before the ink was dry on their release papers – they had acumen and gumption.

                  – The imposition of the principles of communism coincided with the 19th Amendment.

                  – One man, one vote democracy inexorably leads to dictatorship – Franklin’s was a restricted-vote republic.

                  – The American fertility rate is in a “death spiral” and the population is imported.

                  – 100 years, there won’t be an American left in America.

                  I provide perspective – I wouldn’t have a clue what to do now – America is schizophrenic – America is over.

                  They don’t “fundamentally transform” China, Japan, East Timor, Russia, Lichtenstein, Saudi Arabia, etc.

                  Are you an American?

                  Do you want to Make America Feeble Again?

                  1. George, you’re a birther. You cannot be convinced with facts and evidence, so I don’t waste my time trying to do it. I simply encourage you to get help with your illness.

  8. Rubin is a liar. Her strategy, as with the remainder of the so-called mainstream narrative-making institutions is to lump all of the grounds for inquiry or contest in with the most ridiculous Lin Wood and Sidney Powell nonsense.

    Because of this, it is escaping mention that Democratic party operatives and other partisans pursued a coordinated campaign targeted at swing states to nullify anti-fraud prophylactic and transparency provisions in various States’ election laws on the eve what we were told was an election with “the future of the future of the Republic” on the line and “to rid ourselves of fascists.” This campaign was tailor made to reduce faith in the outcome of the various States’ elections, particularly where vote totals were going to be lopsided in favor of the Democratic candidates in Cities with storied histories of crooked election shenanigans (Philadelphia, we’re looking at you).

    Additionally, with not a small dose of irony, the election itself was held under a pall of a summer of unabated political violence with substantial implication that the violence would come to an end when the Democrats were restored to the White House. Can anyone say that this was a fair environment in which to hold an election?

      1. “inciting violence”

        Your beloved Party has been condoning Antifa/BLM violence for months.

        Do you actually expect anyone to take you seriously?

    1. Yeah, El Cid, we should have postponed the election until leftists proved they could go a year without rioting. And any demonstrations by Leftists should have been cause to delay the election ‘another year’!

      This is the kind of crap trolls write just to stack these threads.

  9. Excuse me, but the Democrats were fiercely adamant about getting rid of the Electoral College right after Hillary’s surprise loss in 2016.
    As recently as 2019, Elizabeth Warren was spearheading the petition to dismantle it.
    Hypocrisy is not a strong enough word for this.

    1. How is that hypocritical?

      Democrats still want to get rid of the EC. Biden won the popular vote too.

    2. Cindy seems to be mindlessly suggesting that Democrats shouldn’t want to count Biden’s Electoral Votes. Like we should just roll over and let Trump claims those votes instead.

      1. Wow, I have really stumped all the anonymeese tonight! Gosh, I can’t believe I’m that influential.

        Hell, I’m just a li’l ol’ Texas trophy wife.

        1. “I can’t believe I’m that influential.”

          Because you’re not.

          You’ve stumped no one, Braggy, but it comes as no surprise that you believe you have.

  10. Apparently a House Democrat has finally gotten so disgusted by rioters, that he wants the TSA and FBI to designate all of them as domestic terrorists and place all who have engaged in violent behavior against our government institutions to be placed on the “No Fly List.” Oh, my mistake, not any of those mostly peaceful protesters torching, looting and occupying our government institutions in 2020. No, he only wants the hundreds (no slippery slope here) of “rioters” that descended on our nation’s capitol in 2021 put on the list.

    A top House Democrat asked the Trump administration to ban rioters who took part in the Wednesday siege of the U.S. Capitol from commercial flights out of concern for public safety.

    “Given the heinous domestic terrorist attack on the U.S. Capitol yesterday, I am urging the Transportation Security Administration and the Federal Bureau of Investigation to use their authorities to add the names of all identified individuals involved in the attack to the federal No-Fly List and keep them off planes,” House Homeland Security Chairman Bennie Thompson said in a statement issued Thursday evening.

    The Mississippi Democrat said the ban should include anyone who trespassed on the Capitol, which Capitol Police estimated to be in the hundreds.

    The country’s largest flight attendants union, the Association of Flight Attendants-CWA, called for the ban hours after the siege. Union President Sara Nelson said flight attendants on domestic flights encountered unruly passengers en masse Tuesday.

    “The mob mentality behavior that took place on several flights to the D.C. area yesterday was unacceptable and threatened the safety and security of every single person onboard,” said Nelson, whose union represents 50,000 flight attendants across 17 airlines.

    Security at Washington-area airports was stepped up Thursday in anticipation that the thousands of protesters and rioters are preparing to fly home, according to Reuters. Leading U.S. airlines, including American, Delta, and United, are working closely with law enforcement in light of the concerns.

    Flight attendants are also worried about the potential for the spread of the coronavirus aboard flights. Rioters pictured at the Capitol on Wednesday, interrupting U.S. lawmakers as they affirmed President-elect Joe-Biden’s victory, were largely unmasked.
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/top-democrat-tsa-fbi-capitol-rioters-no-fly-list

  11. Every Republican bears a responsibility for what happened on Wednesday, whether or not they participated

    Diversity [dogma] (i.e. color judgment) and exclusion.

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