DC Attorney General Looking Into Arresting Trump and Others

District of Columbia Attorney General Karl Racine has declared that he is considering arresting President Donald Trump, Donald Trump Jr., Rudy Giuliani and U.S. Rep. Mo Brooks with inciting the violent invasion of the U.S. Capitol.  He noted that, while the Justice Department does not believe you can charge a sitting president, he can do so in a matter of days. Ironically, I believe Trump can be indicted immediately as a constitutional matter but that his prosecution would ultimately collapse on free speech grounds.

The Justice Department itself concluded during the Clinton administration that “[n]either the text nor the history of the Constitution” is “dispositive” on this question but has rendered an internal opinion against indictments of a sitting president as a matter of “considerations of constitutional structure.”  I have long disagreed with the view that there is a constitutional barrier to indicting a sitting president.

My problem with this criminal case is not the timing of an indictment but the basis for the indictment. As I wrote earlier, the governing legal standard for violent speech is found in Brandenburg v. Ohio. As a free speech advocate, I have long criticized that 1969 case and what I consider its dangerously vague standard. However, even Brandenburg would treat Trump’s speech as protected by the First Amendment. Under that case, the government can criminalize speech that is “directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce such action.”

Despite widespread, justified condemnation of his words, Trump never actually called for violence or a riot. Rather, he urged his supporters to march on the Capitol to express opposition to the certification of electoral votes and to support the challenges being made by some members of Congress. He expressly told his followers “to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.”

Such electoral-vote challenges have been made by Democrats in past elections under the Electoral Count Act, and Trump was pressing Republican lawmakers to join the effort on his behalf. He stated: “Now it is up to Congress to confront this egregious assault on our democracy…And after this, we’re going to walk down – and I’ll be there with you – we’re going to walk down … to the Capitol and we’re going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women.”

He ended his speech by saying a protest at the Capitol was meant to “try and give our Republicans, the weak ones … the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country. So let’s walk down Pennsylvania Avenue.” Such marches are common — on both federal and state capitols — to protest or to support actions occurring inside.

For a court, the speech notably does not include a direct call for lawless action by Trump. Instead, there was a call for a protest at the Capitol. Moreover, violence was not imminent; the vast majority of the tens of thousands of protesters present were not violent before the march, and most did not riot inside the Capitol. Like many violent protests we have witnessed over the last four years, including Trump’s 2017 inauguration, the criminal conduct was carried out by a smaller group of instigators.

Once again, I criticized the President’s speech when he was still giving it.  I opposed the challenge to the electoral votes from the outset. I praised Vice President Michael Pence for defying the President. Rather than impeachment, I have called for a vote of censure from both houses on a bipartisan basis.  However, this impeachment could cause lasting damage to our system

If Racine was unwise enough to charge on this basis, it would at least allow for a real legal review of the claims of so many legal experts that this clearly constitutes criminal incitement. I would welcome such a review. Even if Racine could find a trial judge to allow this to go to trial, I expect it would fail quickly on appeal if based exclusively or largely on this speech. Racine declared “Whether that comes to a legal complaint, I think we’ve got to really dig in and get all of the facts. I know I’m looking at a charge under the D.C. Code of inciting violence, and that would apply where there’s a clear recognition that one’s incitement could lead to foreseeable violence.”

Racine’s public statements heavily suggest that these individuals, including the President, have committed criminal acts.  The question is whether this was just a pandering to the public of whether he will now make those arguments in a court of law to allow for a legal challenge.

Many academics and legal experts have insisted that free speech is no barrier to such charges.  I believe that they are fundamentally wrong on the controlling law.  Often such commentary is left unchallenged because of the lack of any actual charge in court. Racine could change that, though I am not sure it will be ultimately be celebrated when these claims are tested in the court system.

222 thoughts on “DC Attorney General Looking Into Arresting Trump and Others”

  1. I find it strange that a constitutional law professor would object to Trump’s call to challenge the electoral vote that was the result of unconstituional cahnges to state law by the executive and judical actions.

    1. There were NO unconstitutional changes to state law. The Pennsylvania Supreme Court said so, but Trump and his enablers continue to lie about this. Inform yourself of the facts.

  2. JANUARY 8, 2021 By Jordan Davidson

    10 Times Democrats Urged Violence Against Trump And His Supporters
    While Democratic politicians and the corporate media blamed President Donald Trump for the mob riot at the Capitol on Wednesday, saying his rhetoric incited violence, many of these same lawmakers and bureaucrats have for years called for violence and physical action against those who believe differently than they do.
    “Hate to break it to you but if Trump had won, there would have been violence on Wednesday, and it most certainly would have been worse. How do I know? Because Democrats have been endorsing violence as a political tactic throughout the Trump Administration,” wrote Grabien founder Tom Elliott on Twitter.

  3. Thats your argument???…how about we just play a video tape of the last 4 years from Democratic politicians calling for violence. Jury Acquittal. Trump did nothing wrong..I know this because like the fake news, you can’t show us in context where Trump incited any criminal behavior? You can’t without coming up with some world salad nonsense. By the way, many people entered the capital through the front door with no resistance…now pay attention…that is 99% of them and the were ARMED…with their phones filming their actions. that is a lot of evidence. IN CONTEXT. For these people to be charged with anything more than a misdemeanors is a joke. You know it. i know it. the media knows it. That is why they only show the same video’s and pictures to frame their narrative. Anyone who spent 1 hr watching any raw footage knows the truth. wait until a jury has to watch hundreds of hours of corroborating evidence. And because its all out there, the Criminals who run 2 of the most corrupt organizations on the planet, the FBI and DOJ, can’t slice and dice their own little film and frame people like they tried with Lavoy Finicum. The truth is out there. You all have failed with this narrative. .

    1. Mr Turley; and all; i greatly appreciate your standing up for our constitution.
      I seriously doubt you nor anyone else will be heard by Wa DC.
      The sum total of the past 3 months has caused me to understand that i have Zero protection by constitution nor any other law.
      I could go to court and be first secretly judged for suspected political wrongthink, case lost, money gone.
      i will never vote again unless the numerous violation of the voting laws, constitutional rights are admitted and rectified by SCOTUS, congress and the rest of judicial system.
      Improbable this will happen, so i am suddenly, a man without a country; an Untermenchen

      1. lol There was not ONE thorough review of votes or voters in ANY contested area – Election laws and voter rules were illegally changed for Covid. NY doesnt even have transparent and verifiable elections. This AG has little claim to any authority.

  4. Is Nancy Pelosi on the arrest list?

    ‘I’d say Pelosi calling the Joint Chiefs to wrangle control of the nuclear codes is a much more frightening act of insurrection than calling for people to peacefully protest at the Capitol’ (@DC_Draino)

  5. We have gone from candidate Trump being a Russian double agent, and mentally ill, to all the way BACK to traitorous, seditious former President Trump. Lets be serious, the most dangerous group is our elites, from Democratic politicians, Never Trumpers, corporate oligarchs to the our institutions, such as the CIA, FBI, DOJ, academia, MSM et al. I was hoping that once Trump was gone, you all would look in the mirror and realize the damage you all have done to the institutions you all claim to love and respect. All Trump has to do is wave the “Steele Dossier”, impeachment(s) at you when you claim he was a threat to “democracy”.

    1. Does he understand or care what the results of this would be? Henceforth, ANY change in administration would mean that the incoming group would find something to prosecute the out-going group with. What a world that will be!

      1. Liz Cheney is the #3 Republican in the House (House Republican Conference Chair) and daughter of former VP Cheney. She’s been serving since 2017.

        Why are you talking about “he” and “incoming group”?

    2. It is truly astonishing to observe the lemmings who have followed Donald Trump toward the cliff for the last few years try to stop their momentum in an effort to avoid the fall to the rocky coast below. Whiplash! Will they succeed? If they fall, will they fall only to be resurrected like Wile E. Coyote, who puts cats to shame when it comes to the number of lives he has?

      Even more amazing are the lemmings who willingly continue to run forward toward the cliff at full speed. Are they mesmerized by the invisible glitter in Trump’s hair, or is it merely due to the alignment of planets and the stars? If it is the latter, it is a true horrorscope.

      Yes, George, I have temporarily escaped the asylum one more time. It may be my last. I’m disappointed in you, George. You have not done anyone any favours by letting this place deteriorate even further than the last time I escaped.

      1. The “lemmings” are actually going to be a more cohesive group going forward because of “you”. The Left like yourself can’t live without Trump. He is the glue that hold you all together (much you are to him), you will continue to give him a platform via lawsuits, criminal indictments, et al. There will be endless papers, books, documentaries, all aimed at Trump and his followers. He will live in your head rent free, and you will deep down like it. Otherwise, you have to face other Leftist in a pie that is fixed in the short term. Global warming, academia, government(s), military, social justice, social …don’t worry, Trump will still be around, and strong enough, thanks to the Left, to play the boogey man in 2023-4.

          1. In the last year we have seen the rise of Antifa/BLM riots which make the Trump “riots” look like play ground fight between three year olds. Everyone those idiots on January 6 should face justice, just like those idiot rioting for “social justice”! Sadly, I will be betting it will be one sided….and the only “insurgents” will be tied to Trump. We will see even more riots. We have been tolerating them for far to long. BLM has been pox on our house for far too long.

            1. Over 14,000 people were arrested in the George Floyd protests across the country. They’re facing justice. The people who broke into the Capitol will face justice too, as long as they can be identified. They should have been arrested before they left.

              1. “14000” is way to low. We should have filled the empty jails with the BLM/ANTIFA thugs. BTW, most of them were upper middle class whites. I should know. Me and my family lived in DC. We have been living in an AIRBNB in Virginia since the summer. My wife, a little half Japanese/Black women, is scared to death of you all. Now, she see the right wing thugs doing the same thing. I hope they ALL rot in jail. Sadly, the Ds are still excusing rioters once again. My wife is now desperate to go back to Japan…..and it was not “Trumpians” that scared of. It is you. We are lucky, we hold Japanese residency cards. We can leave as soon as the border open.

              2. “Over 14,000 people were arrested in the George Floyd protests across the country. They’re facing justice.”

                Apparently, you haven’t heard of “catch and release” — courtesy of your Soros-bought DAs.

                And they weren’t “protests.” They were riots.

                And they weren’t “George Floyd” riots. They were anti-America riots.

                And “justice” would have been a massive police presence to protect the innocent. Instead, the nihilists, arsonists, and rioters were rewarded. It’s hard to imagine a more perverse moral inversion.

                1. Even if they were processed according to the ordinary protocols for husbanding institutional man-hours, the charges would be dropped against half of them.

            2. Trump should pardon those who were arrested on Jan 6. 99% of them were tricked into entering the Capitol. Someone was leading them pretending to be a Trump supporter. They were duped. Trump asked them to come to Washington, and they did. Trump did not provide a leader, and did not protect his loyal supporters so the least thing he should do is pardon them all.

          2. lol, if the DC hack of an AG goes after Trump, the AG is the one who will be sued under Section 1983 for violating Trumps constitutional rights. It is against the civil rights act for a government official to prosecute someone in retaliation for them exercising their free speech rights.

            Trump may be busy with lawsuits, but he may very well be the plaintiff.

            1. Tom; I believe the SCOTUS will never impartially support constitutional rights for the non elite citizen.
              Constructively, The common American citizen lost their constitution and right to vote in 2020.
              The purges have begun; very familiar to me as my parents came to the US from wartime Germany.
              I know the whole story.

        1. My Dearest Pancho

          Most lemmings don’t realize that they are lemmings until it is too late. I do hope that your appointment with objective reality allows you to live another day. Should you go over the cliff, try to land on top of the lemmings who preceded you! And remember, you don’t want to be part of the lemming meringue pie that will be feasted on by others.

          It is easy for non-lemmings to spot a lemming. Lemmings think that everyone who is not running with their pack is their enemy, a “leftist”, a “communist,” or, worst of all, a “Bidenista”. I suppose that when you are running so fast with the Lemming Pack that Liz Cheney looks a lot like Michael Moore, even with your glasses on. I can guarantee you, however, that I, along with other non-lemmings, resemble neither one of them, thank goodness0.

          1. Actually, I see as one of those lemmings! I see you heading for that cliff. What I see is a Left that thinks it won a complete and devastating blow to the “lemmings”. Yet, you barely hold the Senate and House. I see you won an election by hundred thosand(s) votes in half dozen states in the middle of the country. I voted for your Biden, hoping we can just go back to normal. I may be wrong, I will never vote for Trump but I may never vote again. I see your authoritarian and totalitarian impulses as you see power coming your way. I thought Trump and his supporter were repugnant. I was never, until Jan 6, afraid of them. I am afraid of you, your BLM and Antifa. That much I know. Thinking about it, I don’t think you are lemming…I think you are worse. Thank god we have dual citizenship. My hope is for grownups in the D party come to their senses and start acting like grown ups. Thank god for Murkowski, Manchin and Collins! Thank god for Turley!

      2. @Oliver C – It constantly amazes me how many people commenting on this situation with belittling condescension fail to recognize that we have one party rule in this country and all this whole show is is an attempt to put that truth back behind the curtain.

        If you believe it’s democrats vs Republicans, and you believe that because you are a democrat you are on the winning side, you are dumber than the people in the capitol.

      3. Peace in the middle east.

        Criminal justice reform.

        Did not involve our nation in more foreign wars than the prior admin as obama did.

        Good luck.

    3. https://twitter.com/i/status/1349186368447119365 – and information like this will continue to be revealed showing timelines etc. This was all a setup to embarrass Trump & MAGA. I’ve seen numerous videos with “Trump supporters” wearing red MAGA hats ON TOP OF BLACK HOODIES. I watched nearly every single Trump rally and NEVER ONCE saw anyone in black Antifa hoodies with helmets and goggles. This will be shown to be the farce it is.

  6. Well, it now appears that the day before the rally/attack the FBI was aware of specific violent threats from pro-Trump radicals intent on violently attacking Capitol Hill the day of the rally/attack. FBI spokesman at their press conferences today indicated they shared this info with all relevant agencies. Why in god’s name would Giuliani “trial by combat” and Trump “never stop fighter” encourage the mob to March on Capitol Hill? Maybe they’re just profoundly stupid. Box of rocks knuckle dragging stupid. Of course reports by fellow Republicans indicate Trump was full of glee while he watched Capitol Hill breached by a criminal mob, to the horror of his staff. Yeah, I know I know, the FBI is run by deep state lizard people and pedophile vampires.And any Republicans who embarrasses Trump or fails to show blind obedience is a RINO libtard. But if the White House was briefed the day before about these violent pro-Trump radicals, then an indictment would be far from impossible though a conviction might be harder. Either way, it’s all Pelosi and George Soros’s fault for hurting MAGA Nation’s feelings.


    1. If the FBI had this information, why weren’t they prepared for what was expected? From everything I have read, the Capitol police basically ‘stepped aside’ for the protesters.

    2. Of course FBI knew. They always seem to know where right wing mischief is headed. Maybe because as we saw revealed in COINTELRPO hearings, they are often leading it surreptitiously

      Roll that over in your head guys.

      JCS issued a statement today. The Iron Heel is in motion

      Sal Sar

    3. “The FBI was aware”

      The FBI seems to be aware of a lot of things, AFTER THEY HAPPEN.
      Funny thing is, even if they were actually aware, they didn’t do one thing to stop it.
      I mean other than brief someone…

      MAGA Nation doesn’t have it’s feelings hurt either. You obviously fail to understand exactly what is at stake here.
      We aren’t hurt, WE ARE PISSED.

      The burden of proof in a free society is on the government to PROVE that no one cheated.
      It is not the responsibility of the people to PROVE that someone did cheat.
      Not one federal agency has looked at the evidence of blatant fraud that American citizens along with the Trump legal teams has compiled and is still compiling.
      Although we have provided ample proof that they did (both direct and circumstantial evidence) cheat more than required to change the outcome of the election. Far more.
      PROVE it or this will continue until we get the truth we are after.

      If Biden actually won, prove it to us and we will let it go.
      Problem is, they can’t and everyone knows it.

      I will tell you this, the damage done to the Republic due to the 2020 election fraud will rip this country apart at the seams if it is not properly addressed.
      You have 7 days left to do the right thing. Late is better than never because never is not acceptable.
      7 days…

  7. Turley likes to look through a small peephole to judge Trump’s incitement to sedition. Trump’s incitement to this insurrection didn’t just happen on January 6th. Step back and take a good, hard look at the big picture. Even before Election Day, Trump began preparing for the insurrection, claiming that his re-election was going to be stolen based on nothing more than the fact that all polls showed him losing. When the results of state after state came in and showed he lost, he nevertheless made a fool of himself by claiming victory in the middle of the night. When the final tallies came he, he began screaming there was fraud, cheating and other misconduct, but only in swing states he thought he had some “right” to win. He kept telling his disciples that their votes were stolen from them, and that they should fight for “democracy”. He filed dozens of lawsuits, making all sorts of baseless claims of fraud, none of which had any merit as over 60 courts, including the SCOTUS, held. His media enablers did their part, too. He never intended for there to be a peaceful protest, because there was nothing to protest. Officially tallying the Electoral College vote is purely ministerial, but Trump kept trying to get his disciples to intimidate Pence into violating the law by refusing to accept the official results from the states and declaring him the winner of the election. Even before January 6th, Trump pleaded with the faithful to descend on Washington, promising that it would be “wild”. At the rally when he lied to his disciples by telling them he would join them, his attorney encouraged “combat”, and his son encouraged the faithful to fight. Turley wants to just focus on the words used by his client, instead of the big picture. Trump incited insurrection by constantly lying that the election was stolen from him. He wanted his faithful disciples to cause trouble. Those present when he watched the chaos unfold say he was gleeful–he was powerful–he was loved–a malignant narcissist’s dream. Did he try to stop it immediately? No.

    At the end of the day, for this country to heal, Republicans are going to have to step up and convince the faithful disciples that there was NO election fraud. Trump won’t. His mental illness prevents him from accepting rejection, and no quantum of evidence would ever convince him or his hard-core followers, but Republicans owe a duty to the Constitution to stop the lying. Unfortunately, traitors like Josh Hawley and Ted Cruz want to tap into the stupidity and blind faith of the Trump disciples, so they’ll continue the lying.

    The American people, most of whom voted for Biden, are being cheated out of the pomp and circumstance that normally occurs with inaugurations. More Trump fallout.

        1. Still shilling from the the little branches for the Communists, eh “Annonymous”. They kicked you out over there for your constant bashing of America and praise of Biden’s Brownshirt army Antifa.

          You’re so ignorant that you’d refuse to get into the lifeboats because the NY Times said the Titanic was unsinkable. You’re a foe of the constitution and a danger to America. Subversives like you should move to Venezuela where you can enjoy all the fruits of communism.

        2. I would wager that somehow FBI and other alphabet soup agencies have thousands of undercovers, informants, provocateurs, etc among both the ANTIFA and the MAGA crowd

          Is it not now obvious how ANTIFA and BLM’s actions emboldened and agitated the MAGA crowd to attempt the same? Do you tnink this all has been an accident, a “naturally emergent” phenomenon like the Sars-Cov-2 is supposed to be? Yes and that too.

          The globalists are not going to let the opportunity to put us all into place go unused

          Global billionaires are building a global technocratic tyranny and moving it into another gear before our eyes.

          Sal Sar

    1. Ah…

      Another example of the the complete lack of cohesive thinking and cognitive analysis induced by decades of massive intake of media programming. Example:

      “The American people, most of who voted for Biden…..”

      While all the words in of the screed indicate severe psychosis, these words suggest the author is a lower IQ, low information voter. Probably female, and desperately looking for self worth and meaning in an empty life, and thus willing to believe all the lies she can shovel in from MSM.

      Born in the 80s or 90s, she was denied living the true American experience by the Marxist indoctrination of the public school system. Having thus been programmed from about 4 years old for the next 14 to 20 years, she lives in an alternate world of fantasy and fiction, completely detached from any figment of reality.

      The truth is, at the end of the day, for their own good, people like this need to be declared mentally incompetent and deprogrammed by mental health professionals to stop committing intellectual and emotional suicide via MSM.

      How very sad to live in the mental prison of psychosis. I hope you manage to find your way out.

    2. Six states violated federal election law.
      3 U.S. Code § 1 – Time of appointing electors;
      The electors of President and Vice President shall be appointed, in each State, on the Tuesday next after the first Monday in November, in every fourth year succeeding every election of a President and Vice President.

      (June 25, 1948, ch. 644, 62 Stat. 672.)

      The electors had to be chosen on the day of the election for the president and vice president. Six states were the only ones to violate the laws deadline.

      Congress violated federal election law by excepting and counted the electoral’s from six States, who legally could not have votes in the electoral.

      Congress should have discounted those votes by law and move to the house for a vote. However Democrats did not want it to go to the house of representatives because there’s one vote for each state and 31 states are controlled by Republicans. Thus they violated the law 3 USC 1 In order to illegally install illegitimate president.

    3. “In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.”

      Trump knew they were going to cheat because they cheated in 2016.
      What they failed to realize was just how many Americans were going to vote for the man and they couldn’t pull it off for Hill.
      We knew they were going to cheat in 2020 as well and they did. Massively and they didn’t even try to hide it.
      But you already know this

      No honest American (I’m including you in that group till you prove otherwise) believes that 80M people voted for China Joe Biden.
      47 years of failed politics and personal graft at America’s expense and he beats the best President since Ronald Reagan?
      Get outta here. No honest person believes that garbage.

  8. What is it about Donald Trump that would force the Democrats to put forth so much effort to eliminate him from existence before, during and after his presidency? When I say eliminate, I’m talking an ISIS-style extermination of him, his family, conservatives and any vestige of opposition to their total power. I haven’t seen this much fear over one man since Michael Myers popped onto the scene in 1978’s Halloween. The fact that they began this purge long before he took office and actually did anything, is their tell that they are protecting something that will not be protected by the constitution. So what is it?

    1. Olly……..great question.
      They act like a bunch of Jr. High cheerleaders who were jilted by their boyfriend right before the Homecoming game.
      Seriously, their actions are on the same emotional level as 14 yr olds.

    2. “The hope of impunity is a strong incitement to sedition; the dread of punishment, a proportionably strong discouragement to it.”

      Fedaeralist 27

    3. What is it about Donald J. Trump, a/k/a “Don the Con” that the majority of Americans find offensive? Well, where do we start? How about his constant lying, beginning with the birther lie about Barak Obama not being an American, his lie on the Today Show, to Meredith Vieira, in which he said he had investigators in Hawaii, and “you won’t believe what they’re finding”? That’s true–we wouldn’t believe it because there was nothing to believe. How about his racism–he entered into a consent decree after being charged with race discrimination in housing that he still lies about, claiming that he “won”. How about cheating people in business dealings–literally thousands of lawsuits over bills he refused to pay, forcing a lawsuit, then forcing his creditor to accept less than the bill to save on attorney fees and then bragging about what a great deal he got? How about the womanizing–bragging about grabbing womens’ genitals? How about the lack of patriotism–cheating to get out of military service by falsely claiming bone spurs–yet never missing a day on the links?

      Then, there’s the fact that he’s no businessman–6 business bankruptcies after his father wasn’t around to bail him out any more. He’s such a deadbeat that no US bank would loan him any money, so he turned to Russia, which helped him cheat to get into the White House. Then, he fired Dan Coats for refusing to lie about this. He also is clueless about how government works. This is all before he ever stepped foot into the Oval Office. The list of his failures and evidence character flaws after assuming office are too long.

      One lie you need to stop telling is that it is “Democrats” who want him gone, and that Trump is a “conservative”. The majority of Americans: 1. did not vote for him in 2016 or 2020. and 2. Have not approved of him since he started occupying our White House, which is record in the history of presidential polling. Republicans opposed to Trump have formed an organization called “The Lincoln Project” because he is so offensive to Republican values. Trump is NO conservative, either. Conservatives believe in family values, personal integrity and character–none of which apply to Trump. Ask Bill Kristol and George F. Will if you don’t believe me.

      And, stop lying about people being afraid of Trump–he’s the biggest wussy ever. He refused to serve his country. He cannot stand to lose because of his fragile ego, so he starts lying about the election being stolen, despite the fact that every poll showed him losing and he had historically-low polling numbers. He fired Chris Krebs because he wouldn’t back down from the truth that 2020 was the most-secure election in US history. Then, there’s the lying about the pandemic and his absolute incompetence in handling it. Yet, you Trumpsters believe that, despite this incontrovertible proof, somehow your hero not only won, but by a landslide. When the George Floyd protests started, he decamped to the bunker. He didn’t show up to lead his “army” to the Capitol, either. When he wanted to do his photo op at Lafayette Park, he had 35 FBI, Secret Service and other guards, guns drawn, in trees and behind bushes. The people who were cleared with tear gas included Episcopalian seminarians, deacons and priests who had been handing out bottled water and snacks to peaceful protesters. What a wimp!

      Trump is a seriously ill sociopathic liar and narcissist. There is no depth to which he wouldn’t stoop. He is dangerous because he is no patriot and cares only about himself, attention and adulation. He has been the worst President ever and has left behind a trail of economic destruction, an out of control pandemic with nearly 400,000 dead, an attempted coup of Congress with 6 dead, cynicism about American government, migrants caged like animals, and Americans divided into opposing camps. That’s why most Americans have no use for him.

      1. I appreciate your color commentary, as It actually provides a foundation for the degree of derangement that prompted my question.

        1. Ordinarily, I’d let your comments slide, but not today. Too much death–too much dissention in this country I love and for which my ancestors fought. What have I said that is factually-incorrect? Confront me. Maybe you think it’s OK to cheat people in business, to lie all of the time, to blame everyone else when something you are responsible for goes wrong, and to mislead people about your failures because you have a fragile ego that cannot handle rejection. Most Americans don’t. Maybe you don’t think that the leader of the free world should be an honorable, respectable person with keen leadership skills that can be relied on to tell the truth and whose actions are for the benefit of the common good instead of personal aggrandizement, but most Americans disagree. Trump is a seriously flawed person who already had a bad reputation when he cheated his way into our White House. He’s done nothing but bluster, bully, lie and fail ever since, and people have died as a result. He has divided this country into opposing camps with his lying. If anyone is deranged, it is people like you who cannot accept the truth because to do so would be tacitly admitting that you were suckered by Don the Con.

          1. Ordinarily, I’d let your comments slide, but not today.

            Ordinarily, I don’t care if you do or not. Nothings changed in that regard.

          2. Joey “Big Guy” Biden is not exactly known for his truth-telling or leadership skills. What a mess of greed, grift and corruption that family is. They’re fortunate they have the fake news media to run cover for them.

      2. “The people who were cleared with tear gas…”

        Lie. They did not use tear gas. Do you really believe POTUS and his entourage would walk right through the area where cops had just deployed tear gas to clear violent protestors? No.

      3. If you actually believe that garbage you just typed then you need help.
        Most of that is not true and the rest of it is distorted beyond belief.
        The reason they hate Trump, the only reason they hate Trump, is because he was spoiling their plan to wreck America.
        Not just Democrats, Republican too. Many members of both parties are bought and paid for (or compromised) by our enemies.

        I hope you aren’t surprised when the anvil falls on your head because they aren’t just after me. Once I’m gone, you’ll be next on their list.
        The Patriot Act started it. Obama put it into overdrive and Clinton was supposed to drive the nails in our coffin.
        Trump spoiled their plans so they cheated (had too) to get him out of the way.

        Now they are coming for us, and you won’t be spared.
        Keep your eyes peeled…or don’t?

        You will be just as much a slave as the rest of us if you don’t wake up and smell the BS.
        I assume you don’t think much because it hurts but the pain you feel when you realize I’m right will be much worse.
        Up to you.

    4. Speaking as a Democrat, I don’t want him, his family, or anyone else “elminated.” I want him charged for his crimes, and ditto for anyone else who’s committed crimes.

      I don’t fear him. I want him to understand that he’s not above the law.

      1. I want him charged for his crimes, and ditto for anyone else who’s committed crimes.

        That’s fair. Since 2016, is there anyone else you believe should be charged for their crimes?

        1. Plenty, some of whom are already serving time. But I’m not going to follow your attempt to shift the discussion to them.

          1. But I’m not going to follow your attempt to shift the discussion to them.

            Shift the discussion? I quoted you when you said ditto for anyone else who’s committed crimes. So, I asked you is there anyone else you believe should be charged for their crimes? Perhaps English is not your primary language. Clearly, there is no shift in the discussion. The fact is you painted yourself into a corner and you didn’t even see it coming. You would have to either objectively list others that have committed crimes, or prove yourself disqualified from any legal/political discussion that requires an iota of objectivity.

            Thanks for playing.

                1. Anonymous found your comment “The fact is you painted yourself into a corner and you didn’t even see it coming”. to be a “yawn”.

                  Do you know why he was so stupid to do so? Because Anonymous the Stupid is Stupid.

                    1. Seems Allan resonates with the word “stupid”. He’s familiar with all facets of the subject matter. Wonder why…lol.

                      Elvis Bug

      2. Did my question clog your objectivity filter? One more time…

        Since 2016, is there anyone else you believe should be charged for their crimes?

    5. There are literally trillions of reasons.
      Trillions of dollar (reasons).

      Trump was working towards an end to the graft in American politics or at least graft from foreign nations that influence our policies (especially China).
      You know, where politicians allow lobbyist to write legislation that benefits them instead of the American people to the tune of trillions of dollars and in return the K-street guys and foreign entities provide beneficial jobs to those same politicians, their family members and friends. How do you think a person gets elected to the House of Representatives, goes to Washington D.C. as a pauper and is a millionaire in just a few short years. Senator is even more profitable and President/VP, well there is no limit (ask Hunter Biden).
      Hell if they stay long enough their whole family becomes multi-millionaires and your tax dollars make it so.
      There was a time in this country when that activity was illegal. Now, not so much. Not even investigated (except to say that no reasonable prosecutor could make a case) unless you vote wrong or start talking.
      Then you are thrown to the wolves. I think someone said that they have six was from Sunday to get you if you don’t play ball.

      There are very few politicians in Washington DC that have not benefited financially from their positions and that is not the way it is supposed to work.

    1. Trump privately blamed ‘Antifa people’ for storming U.S. Capitol – Axios

      By Reuters Staff


      (Reuters) – U.S. President Donald Trump has privately blamed ‘Antifa people’ for storming the U.S. Capitol last Wednesday, even though clear video and documentary evidence shows the rioters were overwhelmingly his supporters, Axios reported.

      Trump made the remark in a 30-minute-plus phone call Monday morning with House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, Axios reported, citing a White House official and another source familiar with the call.

      However, McCarthy told Trump in the call, which according to Axios was tense and aggressive at times, “It’s not Antifa, it’s MAGA. I know. I was there.” -Reuters

        1. “President Trump on Monday privately — and falsely — blamed “Antifa people” for storming the Capitol, even though clear video ”

          Trump was right. Antifa was involved in agitation and creating some of the riotous behavior, maybe all of it. In the end we might find that this riot never would have taken place but for Antifa. We see Antifa being perhaps the first to break a window.

          Anonymous the Stupid can’t see past his nose. Do you know why? Because Anonymous the Stupid is stupid.

          1. Axios:

            Excerpt –

            Behind the scenes: In a tense, 30-minute-plus phone call this morning with House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, Trump trotted out the Antifa line.

            McCarthy would have none of it, telling the president: “It’s not Antifa, it’s MAGA. I know. I was there,” according to a White House official and another source familiar with the call.

            The White House official said the call was tense and aggressive at times, with Trump ranting about election fraud and an exasperated McCarthy cutting in to say, “Stop it. It’s over. The election is over.”

            1. Again with anonymous sources. When will Anonymous the Stupid ever learn.

              Further, did McCarthy look at the videos? Did he have time? As a witness what would he know? We are now seeing a known Antifa person colluding with another member and I think the same member inciting riot. Trump is much smarter than McCarthy when it comes to one’s gut feelings.I agreed with Trump before I heard what he said.

              Anonymous the Stupid, can stay in the stupid mode but others can see the video themselves. The MSM will try to hide the truth and spin it to what they want people to hear. I’m tired of your anonymous sources. We have been hearing from them for over 4 years and on the important issues they were almost always wrong. Anonymous the Stupid can be hit over and over again without learning a thing.

          2. From the Axios article:

            Behind the scenes: In a tense, 30-minute-plus phone call this morning with House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, Trump trotted out the Antifa line.

            McCarthy would have none of it, telling the president: “It’s not Antifa, it’s MAGA. I know. I was there,” according to a White House official and another source familiar with the call.
            The White House official said the call was tense and aggressive at times, with Trump ranting about election fraud and an exasperated McCarthy cutting in to say, “Stop it. It’s over. The election is over.” -Axios

        2. The criminals of both the Left and the Right are like members of different narcotics gangs, both manipulated by the secret police, at hte very same time

          They are or were likely genuine members of ANTIFA BLM or MAGA, but they are coopted, recruited, and often enticed to provoke others into criminal action with fake promises of transactional immunity

          Sal Sar

          I cant find the clip from “Scarface” which talks about how this is done but its the one where Mel Bernstein meets Tony Montana and tells him how he’s going to require certain bribes and information from Tona Montana in exchange for looking the other way.

          Or you can study how the FBI mis-managed the murderous mobster Whitey Bulger. Typical!

      1. Trumps right it was Antifa and everybody knows it . NEVER EVER BELIEVE Reuters , they’re fake news.

        1. lol

          you wouldn’t know ‘fake news’ if it bit you — couldn’t spot it if your life depended on it

    2. She claims that Andy Ngo claims that the videographer, John Sullivan / Jayden X is Antifa. He is not –
      He’s not a Trump supporter, but he also does not identify as Antifa.

      She says that the guy in the fur hat is not a Trump supporter. Her reason is that he changed his clothes. That’s not evidence of him not being a Trump supporter.

      She says she looked at views from 2 videos. There are more than 2 videotapes. Here’s video that coordinates views from 4 videos –

      1. “He’s not a Trump supporter, but he also does not identify as Antifa.”

        Why would he identify as Antifa when he was trying to blame Trump supporters?

        If I recall Any Ngo was a member of Antifa at one point. He has sophisticated knowledge of the group.I think that video was on target

        1. They’ll be arresting the guy in the fur hat, since he was breaking the glass in the door, and we’ll find out whether she’s right about him.

  9. Here goes the theory that rally comments caused this. Just released from Washington Post..

    “A day before rioters stormed Congress, an FBI office in Virginia issued an explicit internal warning that extremists were preparing to travel to Washington to commit violence and “war,” according to an internal document reviewed by The Washington Post that contradicts a senior official’s declaration the bureau had no intelligence indicating anyone at last week’s pro-Trump protest planned to do harm.
    A situational information report approved for release the day before the U.S. Capitol riot painted a dire portrait of dangerous plans, including individuals sharing a map of the complex’s tunnels, and possible rally points for would-be conspirators to meet up in Kentucky, Pennsylvania, Massachusetts and South Carolina and head in groups to Washington.”

  10. The Attorney General of the District of Columbia has limited prosecutorial authority and only handles relatively minor offenses. Most criminal matters in DC are handled by the US Attorney. Not a DC lawyer but that is my understanding of these matters.

    Of course, it won’t stop Mr. Racine from political grandstanding to gain brownie points with his leftists supporters with SJW’s, the gentry liberal crowd, BLM and the Brave Masked Wonderful Warriors of Antifa ™.


  11. District of Columbia Attorney General Karl Racine is a chickenshit opportunist who is just trying to launch his career as national figure.

  12. “The hope of impunity is a strong incitement to sedition; the dread of punishment, a proportionably strong discouragement to it.”
    —Alexander Hamilton, Federalist 27

  13. . . .  so why do it, unless your true objective is to further inflame passions and provoke a larger and more deadly riot? Probably also inflame Joe Biden too !

  14. Where do these Socialist rabble come from all of a sudden. Not really they started with 1909 and Woodrow Wilson. But some of these are sheer idiots. I would guess running for office and wants the publicity. What he’s portraying is a 100% fool. But then he lives and gets paid in DC so there is a great part of the problem.
    Back to the idiot stuff they keep making up. Don’t they teach ConLaw anymore. or is it like literate Standard American English and booted in favor of eight word California dictionaries where every sentence ends with a question mark.

    Back to this hang the President Crap over nothing but sheer Marxist Leninist reasoning. It’s difficult if not impossible to convict a sitting President. Their oaths of office contain one six word clause. that defies the attackers. “To The Best Of My Ability.” Trying arguing against that except in a Schumeresque-Pelosite kangaroon Court. And all over one week left? Too bad they had not time to get any work done they should be charged with fraud at the very least.

    Tell this dumb Dumb Burro Donkey Ass the last taken from a Latin derived through Spanish for one term Asno or close to it his is showing with emphasis on Dumb which means unable to speak. Don’t we wish.

    So the scenario now goes like this … Pence, Trump and one of the Supremes by invitation gather in the White House. Trump hands over a resignation letter. The Justice accepts it. He then administers the Oath of Office to Pence. Pence first hands over a nomination for his replacement blocking Pelosi until Harris is put in the office. Second He hands over a Federal Pardon. Citizen Trump retires from the proceedings and is untouchable. Pence has the option of resigning himself or not. Probably not in this case. He may however do a number of other things having the opportunity. Trump himself before resigning could hand Pence a Federal Pardon.

    Pelosi has a heart attack being blocked once again from the VP chair.. I just made that one up as wishful thinking.

    All of the above except the last is in strict accordance with our Constitution which this AG appears to have never read. That’s a disease that afflicts many in Washington DC. Like the part about mandatory taking the Oath of Office and instead ignoring it.

    Biden however has a plan. His new slogan is America United. Citizens of our Constitutional Republic that is the new name of our Constitutonaless Government. too late to stop the aforementioned proceedings.

    I’m thinking Pence should nominate n Tulsi Gabbard and Martha McSally Just so the left could claim the first woman whatever anything.

    1. Here we have just another pile on by the left to score political points and twist the knife. Maybe the DC DA should review the criminal code. Specific intent is needed to prove a criminal offense and although Trump’s words could be interpreted as being negligent, and possibly even reckless, they do not equate to intent.

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