Samford University has cancelled a speaking engagement for historian Jon Meacham, according to Baptist News Global. I have been critical of Meacham’s rhetoric as well as his course materials at Vanderbilt. However, the cancellation of his speech due to his support for pro-choice groups is another example of the rising intolerance on our campuses for opposing viewpoints. If Meacham’s views are opposed by many on the campus, it is more of a reason to invite him to allow for a diversity of views and values at the university.
The university is a private institution but this is still a blow to free speech even if the First Amendment does not apply.
Meacham received the 2009 Pulitzer Prize for a biography about President Andrew Jackson. He is a regular on MSNBC and other television programs. He has been criticized for his reckless rhetoric in past segments like calling Trump supporters as people operating with “lizard brains.” However, he is an articulate and passionate speaker on contemporary as well as historical issues. I expect he would generate great interest and debate in any campus appearance.
The Nov. 3rd event was supposed to honor the inauguration of the university’s new president, Beck Taylor. However, various students and groups objected, citing his recent appearance at a Planned Parenthood event in Texas. At the speech, Meacham spoke of the perils facing democracy by conservative movements and the recent anti-abortion law. While many are likely to take offense, the speech was civil and passionate about what he sees as the defining values of our democracy.
Nevertheless, he was criticized as someone whose “beliefs and core values do not align with those of Samford University, as it is a Southern Baptist institution.” If that is so, there is all the more reason for the university to host such alternative viewpoints. Students can voice their opposing views in questions or, outside of the event, in protests. Meacham has always struck me as someone who would not shy away from passionate but respectful disagreements.
Pro-life students have been attacked or silenced repeatedly on campuses (here and here and here and here and here). This is an example of the same intolerance from the opposing side. Rather than cancel Meacham, why not invite a speaker with the opposite viewpoints or arrange a forum for the expression of such views? Universities are supposed to be forums for a diversity of values and views. This cancellation is inimical to that defining intellectual mission.
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Speaking at an Inauguration is a “perk” for both the school and the speaker. It gives the speaker the school’s platform. It is not the same as disinviting someone from a symposium or conference.
Conservative cancel culture exists just as surely as liberal cancel culture. That’s because we are reaching a point where both conservatives and liberals refuse to hear opposing views – or in this case refuse to have someone with opinions on other matters speak on a campus. It’s absurd. I was in college in the 1980’s and we welcomed opposing views. If there were people offended by the speaker then they would just stay home. No one is forcing students to attend. One of the main ideas of college is to explore and investigate and learn about multiple points of view. But they all want safe spaces where they only look in the mirror.
Executing unborn children is NOT an opposing view, it is murder.
Many do not share your beliefs Many believe that an undeveloped blob of tissue incapable of independent life isn’t an “unborn child” with the same rights as a fully-developed person capable of life on its own.
I see your motherly instincts have kicked in.
WoW!, Interesting to see Satin’s aid out on a Sunday of all days.
I’m sure you must have the Black Drapers closed tightly on this day.
As I understand it “Lets go Brandon” recently dined with the Black Pope of Darkness in which fresh yet to be born babyback ribs were served. Can you gives us all any further insight to their dining experience?
Absolutely conservatives have been know to attempt to suppress contrary views.
But that has not been commonplace for a long time – it is comonplace today with the left.
The florida example being used, does not involve anyone being fired. It does not even involve being silenced.
It merely involves not being free to work for the state concurrently with working against it. the professors can choose which side they want paid by.
While I would side with free speech even in this case,
Trying to compare that to getting professors, and comedians, and news anchors fired – or worse threatening them with violence is ludicrous.
There is no modern republican equivalent of macarthyism. There is a broad democratic equivalent.
There is no parity here.
“You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.”
“Conservative cancel culture exists just as surely as liberal cancel culture. That’s because we are reaching a point where both conservatives and liberals refuse to hear opposing views – or in this case refuse to have someone with opinions on other matters speak on a campus.”
I agree that both sides do it. But there is a limit to what is an acceptable view. We should ignore and shun certain views, e.g., Q-Anon. We will not always agree on what views are so intolerable that they should be ostracized, but that is beside the point. The point is that human beings should discriminate against completely irrational and/or truly odious views.
Once again, I must point out the reality that public “schools,” “colleges,” and “universities” are no longer institutions of learning. All of these institutions must now be properly classified as Leftist Indoctrination Entities or “LIEs” for short. LIEs exist today primarily to program and indoctrinate impressionable minds with Marxist and Leftist ideology and propaganda, which are nothing more than lies. Independent thinking is not only attacked and ridiculed, but is punished. So, of course there is “intolerance” to opposing views. It won’t be long for the time when thinking of any kind will be outlawed and punished as it was during the Inquisition. Today’s graduates of LIEs don’t know what the Inquisition was, but the brillianst Galileo once called before the Inquisition and was found guilty of heresy. (Galileo observed the moon and found Venus had phases like the moon, proving it rotated around the sun, which refuted the prevailing doctrine that the Earth was the center of the universe.) Galileo was sentenced to life imprisonment in 1633, but because of his age and poor health, he was allowed to serve his imprisonment under house arrest. When the Globalists have completed their goals, any genuine thinkers caught thinking at the LIEs will be put in concentration camps or executed–not placed under house arrest.
“It’s the [communist teachers unions], stupid.”
– James Carville
You’ll be the last to know.
“Give me just one generation of youth, and I’ll transform the whole world.”
– Vladimir Lenin
“I don’t know why ‘lizard brain’ is looked on so dis-favorably…unless it’s the right’s reluctance to identify with their tactical success at utilizing advertising’s ability to utilized fear and greed to sell product. Donald Trump is a master at using this to play all media like it’s a tabloid. So does Fox News…”
Turley first criticized Meacham’s remark in an article on Fox News:
“It is impossible on NBC, however, to refer to Trump voters without some derisive or insulting precursor. Meacham did not disappoint his audience.
“I think Trump did himself good with his base tonight,” Meacham said. “The question for America is how big that base is. There is a lizard brain in this country. Donald Trump is a product of the White man’s, the anguished, nervous White guy’s lizard brain.”
Meacham was referring to a primitive part of the brain in psychological literature: “Many people call it the ‘Lizard Brain,’ because the limbic system is about all a lizard has for brain function. It is in charge of fight, flight, feeding, fear, freezing up, and fornication.”
Of course, even with the lead held by Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden in the polls, roughly half of this country still supports Trump (or at least rejects Biden, who Meacham has endorsed). That is a lot of lizard people.
What is striking is that Meacham is supposed to give what NBC, MSNBC and PBS present as neutral, scholarly analysis. But his comment about Trump supporters having lizard brains captures why conservative or independent voters view the networks as biased and gratuitously insulting.
Indeed, these comments show that networks like NBC are now focusing entirely on Democratic and liberal viewers — writing off half of the American people as gag lines.
I have written repeatedly about how the media have helped Trump by fulfilling his narrative of open bias. Meacham shows that they are now enjoying this too much.
There appears to be no point that is too insulting or raw for national commentary so long as it is an attack on Trump or those who support him.
I did not vote for Trump, and I have regularly criticized him in columns and blog posts. However, I have watched the stereotyping of Trump supporters at media conferences for years. It suggests that roughly 63 million people in this country who voted for Trump in 2016 are knuckle-dragging racists.
The media have simply never tried to see any nuance or gain any insight into what is motivating Trump supporters. It is easier to dismiss them as a whole as racists and lizard people.
Washington Post columnist Jennifer Rubin has declared that Trump supporters as a whole are racists. That common stereotyping of Trump supporters is uncontested, even as the media object to Trump’s generalizations about other groups.
Miami Herald columnist and NBC analyst Leonard Pitts wrote a column headlined: “No, it’s not the economy, stupid. Trump supporters fear a black and brown America.”
The narrative has moved beyond Hillary Clinton’s description of Trump supporters as a “basket of deplorables” to now portraying all Trump supporters as open racists.
“Make America Great Again” hats are denounced by academics as the symbol of “modern day hitlerjugend” and hate speech.
What is most distressing about Meacham’s comments is that he is an incredibly talented and insightful academic. But it is hugely popular to degrade Trump’s supporters on television. That can create its own conditioning reward system.”
I DON’T necessarily disagree with Turley’s criticism of the MSM, but he NEVER holds Fox News, his employer, to the same standard of decency and objectivity.
If Turley could just honestly look in the mirror and ask himself: Is there anything that I could find fault with the diatribes I hear from my Fox News colleagues, Carlson, Levin, Hannity, Ingraham, Bongino, Watters, etc., when they excoriate Leftists?
Does Turley seriously think that it is NOT “hugely popular to degrade” Leftists on Fox? Of course not.
It is not enough for Turley to concede:
“I did not vote for Trump, and I have regularly criticized him in columns and blog posts.”
To be impartial and objective, Turley must criticize the talk show hosts on Fox, Newsmax and One America Network for REPEATING, SPREADING and LEGITIMIZING Trump’s bigoted and racist statements which he has regularly criticized in his columns!
Unless he does so, he is a hypocrite. And I am going to keep saying it UNTIL he does.
I’m not reading all that.
I’m really happy for you, though.
…or I’m sorry that that happened to you.
Supporting Trump is supporting what he stands for: nothing of value. As a person, he is a chronic, habitual liar, he is a failed businessman, having bankrupted 6 businesses after his father was no longer able to prop him up financially, his current “business empire” is failing and only survives on loaned money, he is a serial womanizer and brags about getting away with sexually assaulting women because of his “fame”, is on his third marriage (in which he publicly disgraced his former stripper wife by cheating on her with nude models and a porn star), he praises White Supremacists, calling them “fine people”, he calls African countries “sh*thole”, calls brown people “rapists and murderers, animals, vermin and criminals”, and, according to Dr. Brix, his incompetence and downplaying of the risk of COVID is directly responsible for 130,000 unnecessary deaths. He is a draft-dodger and demeaned John McCain, a true American hero and patriot, because McCain wouldn’t go along with repealing Obamacare. Trump and Republicans still have no plan to replace Obamacare, which provides health care access to over 20 million Americans, and is saving lives. Trump promised something better at lower cost–just another of his hundreds of thousands of lies. Because of his massive ego, he still refuses to accept the will of the American people and continues spreading the Big Lie that a landslide victory was stolen from him. And, the dupes believe it, despite all evidence proving that he lost by a landslide. Americans turned out in record numbers to vote him out. He can’t accept this.
And, yet , people support this creature to the point of cult worship. Why? It’s surely not because he did such a wonderful job of President after cheating his way into the White House with help from Russian hackers. His incompetence and attempts to bully foreign leaders turned around the successful economy created by Barak Obama from the ashes of Bush’s presidency into the worst recession since the Great Depression. His only legislative “achievement” was passing a tax cut mostly benefitting the super-wealthy. He allowed a pandemic to get out of control by deliberately lying about the dangers and pushing for unproven treatments like Hydroxycholorquine, which the disciples continue to defend. Because of the pandemic, the country was mostly shut down for over a year, and now, we have supply chain delays because so many workers went to other jobs, factories closed down and consumer demand went down. Those things didn’t happen overnight and cannot be reversed overnight. And, the Republicans are trying to blame Joe Biden for this, instead of Trump, whose incompetence in handling the pandemic was the cause.
Because the facts of Trump’s lack of personal integrity, lack of character, nonexistent leadership skills and amazingly bad track record cannot explain his popularity, there must be another reason. Other than the cynical wealthy who don’t want to pay their fair share of taxes and businesses that don’t want to comply with environmental and consumer protection regulations, his supporters are mostly rural, non-college educated white people. Social scientists tell us they fear losing their perceived position of superiority to educated people, especially women, people of color, and those from south of the border. They religiously tune into Hannity, OAN, News Max, Breitbart and other alt-right sources for facts, and believe it when they are told that “mainstream” media is lying to them and is out to get their hero. That is the very definition of propaganda, and they fall for it. They are literally immune to facts–for instance, they are told there wasn’t any insurrection, so they believe it. They are told Ashli Babbitt, who got shot to death after participating in an invasion of the Capitol and was in the act of breaching the Speaker’s Lobby, is a murder victim, so they believe it. They believe that tens of thousands of dead people voted for Biden, that ballots were faked, brought in from China, that millions of people voted several times, that machine counting totals were manipulated from China, and other lies about nonexistent voter fraud, and they believe it, even though investigations prove these are lie. Their fat hero will not go away or shut up, but keeps stirring the pot, reveling in the attention, holding rallies, stirring up the faithful, and lying, constantly, because of his narcissistic personality disorder. They are blind to the fact that he is nothing but a braggadocious liar and loser who has never succeeded at anything in life other than “The Apprentice”, which was nothing but a fake reality TV show. America is in trouble because there are so many blind disciples who are willingly immune to the truth because they feel threatened by college educated people, women and minorities. They believe the lies about the vaccine being questionable, that the CDC and the FDA can’t be trusted, and don’t understand or believe the fact that these lies are being told for political, not scientific or public health reasons, to keep the pandemic going, in an effort to thwart Joe Biden’s presidency. The economy cannot fully recover until we have better herd immunity, which Republicans are trying to prevent.
Turley is indeed a hypocrite by using his forum to carry water for Trump and the Republicans while ignoring the big picture, and refusing to criticize Republicans.
I agree with everything you said except this part:
“Turley is indeed a hypocrite by using his forum to carry water for Trump and the Republicans while ignoring the big picture, and refusing to criticize Republicans.”
Turley did criticize Trump a lot and called out his dishonesty as well as other lying Trumpists. It is certainly true that Turley never expressly denounced the Big Lie during Trump’s time in office and will not do so now despite Trump and most Republicans continuing to spread the Big Lie. It’s despicable.
Turley has a conflict of interest with his Fox News employment. His is a delicate balancing act- maintaining his academic credibility with his professional colleagues while at the same time serving to reinforce the ideological and false narratives of his Fox bosses. He serves Fox not by voicing its lies, but rather, by discrediting the MSM. What is most interesting is that he is not allowed to criticize the advocacy journalism at Fox’s competitors on the Right, namely, Newsmax and One America Network!
Poor Turley. You gotta feel for the guy.
Dear Jeff S: Turley only provides tepid criticism of Trump or Republicans on small matters so that he can say, with a straight face, but fingers crossed, that he HAS criticized Trump and the Republicans who have now fallen into lock-step behind a wannabe dictator. He is attempting to create the fiction that he is neutral, but he is unflagging in his criticism of Biden, posting some slanted piece criticizing him or a member of his administration almost every day. He also saves his sharpest criticism for Trump detractors, falling in line with whatever slop is put out on Fox, and, as you pointed out, he also contributes to the narrative that MSM can’t be trusted. He constantly criticizes the WaPo, the NYT, MSNBC, CNN and others. He ignores the big picture, the Big Lie, and the unprecedented misconduct of Trump–not just the reasons he was impeached twice, but also, his constant lying, his unprecedented refusal to concede, refusal to go away and let his successor govern without his interference, and he has tried to undermine both of the impeachments of Trump. Turley is well-paid, but still just a flunkie, an errand-boy with a J.D. diploma. And, no, I don’t feel one bit sorry for him, because if he were a man of integrity, he wouldn’t use his platform or credentials to defend the most-unfit person ever to cheat his way into the White House, someone who is an avowed racist, misogynist, xenophobe, Islamophobe and constant liar. He made his choices. I don’t know how he could teach at university and support someone like Trump. It’s not a matter of freedom of speech, but bedrock principles that if you believe in them, you live by them. Universities all have missions and values statements that almost universally declare that the university stands against all kinds of discrimination. Turley defends someone whose supporters include Neo-Nazis, Q Anon, the 3 percenters and the Proud Boys. Trump is nothing but a narcissistic pig, loser, liar, racist, misogynist, xenophobe and Islamophobe, all of which are un-American, and Turley is his mouthpiece.
“Trump is nothing but a narcissistic pig, loser, liar, racist, misogynist, xenophobe and Islamophobe, all of which are un-American, and Turley is his mouthpiece.”
I don’t disagree, but Turley is not his mouthpiece- that is too strong. He is not a Trumpist collaborator, but he is no hero either.
“Let not any one pacify his conscience by the delusion that he can do no harm if he takes no part, and forms no opinion. Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing. He is not a good man who, without a protest, allows wrong to be committed in his name, and with the means which he helps to supply, because he will not trouble himself to use his mind on the subject.” — John Stuart Mill
Turley’s unconscionable silence in condemning the Big Lie and his failure to take a public and courageous stand against Trumpism like Liz Cheney will haunt him in his later years when his grandkids ask him what did he do to confront it.
He will draw a deep breath and pause a long time and then remind them he was an employee of Fox News during that time….
I’ve wondered throughout my career how attorneys rationalize away the reality of the things they do–like slanting the truth, like downplaying certain facts and exaggerating or outright lying about others, and to blame victims. I think for most of them, it’s about the money, plus the fact that I believe they dissociate themselves from truth of the situation.For example, I read an appeal yesterday in a child molest case in which the perp had intercourse with his 13 year old step-daughter while his wife, the child’s mother, was working the night shift. The child got pregnant, and he tried to coerce her to blame her pregnancy on a male classmate, but the truth eventually came out. She and her mother decided an abortion was the best solution, but that carried with it significant emotional distress that this girl will carry for the rest of her life. She bears no fault or blame for the situation she found herself in. She and her mother decided that the alternative would have been even worse–bearing her step-father’s and siblings’ father’s baby and then either raising it or placing it for adoption. The perp’s attorney argued that the State had failed to prove that his client KNEW the girl was only 13 years old. So, this attorney tried to help his client get away with raping a 13 year old girl who was forced to get an abortion, by offering a stupid and lame argument that somehow he didn’t know the child’s age, even though she lived with him and his wife for years. The appeals court didn’t buy the argument, but I would have been ashamed to even try to pull something like this. If he had gotten away with it, the child would have been forced to see this creep, or to hide or leave home every time he came around to pick up her half-siblings for parental visitation. He got the maximum sentence, BTW, which was upheld on appeal.
Then, there’s Turley, who uses his credentials to carry out the mission of Fox News, which is to attack Democrats, especially women of color and minorities, to defend the 3 Trump appointees to the SCOTUS, even though their appointments by someone who cheated his way into office are controversial and their beliefs are far-right of most Americans, to breathe credibility into things like the fake “Hunter Biden laptop scandal”, to downplay Trump’s incompetence, to ignore the Big Lie and the insurrection, and to ignore the outrageous conduct of Republicans like Marjorie Taylor Greene and Josh Hawley, all while trying to nurture the image of neutrality. Trump’s “presidency” is a stain on American history for so many reasons, and we continue to live with the aftermath of him and his ego while our economy and our public health try to recover. Turley never addresses the the unprecedented attack on public health agencies for political reasons or the fact that, despite losing in a landslide election and multiple failed attempts to change the truth, Trump still won’t go away or stop lying. Turley’s role in supporting this person is shameful.
“So, this attorney tried to help his client get away with raping a 13 year old girl who was forced to get an abortion, by offering a stupid and lame argument that somehow he didn’t know the child’s age, even though she lived with him and his wife for years.”
As an attorney, you are not paid by your client to do the right thing; you are paid to jealously defend his interests. However, a lawyer cannot perpetrate a fraud on the court by lying on his client’s behalf. Defending a guilty person serves the general interest by keeping the government honest by making it prove its criminal case against the defendant and making sure that the government did not violate the defendant’s Constitutional rights or break any laws in its prosecution. It’s hard for a lay person to appreciate this important function of the legal system.
As far as Turley is concerned, I cannot dispute your criticism of Turley. If only he could be made to answer for his conduct. After all, he is entitled to defend his silences. But the fact that he won’t do so, or even make an effort to account for his inaction leaves me with the impression that he can’t defend it except for the obvious reason- I work for Fox!
Somewhere I recall reading that he is working on a book (I don’t think he has ever authored one). If he is, he will certainly promote it on his appearances on Fox. This free advertising (they ALL do it) may be an ulterior motive for his employment. After exploiting this opportunity to cash-in, I suspect he may depart Fox, but which mainstream network will embrace him after he sullied his reputation at Fox?
I agree that an attorney is required by the Rules of Professional Conduct to zealously pursue his/her client’s case, but insulting the intelligence of the Court and the jury by trying to claim that the child molester didn’t know the age of his victim who lived under his roof for years crosses the line. Who would believe such bull? Her innocence and vulnerability were part of his attraction to her. Maybe there wasn’t any other way to defend this person, who also had an extensive criminal record, BTW, which figured into his maximum sentence, plus the fact that he stood in loco parentis to the child and tried to get her to frame an innocent classmate to cover up his own crime. She was an eighth grader.
In Turley’s case, he’s not an attorney defending his client in a court proceeding–just a paid “expert in the law” who has become a political pundit since going on the Fox payroll. He does try, unconvincingly, to nurture an aura of neutrality, and that’s my beef with him. He can’t have it both ways. He can’t constantly attack the Democrats but ignore the Big Lie and the effect on this country. Pick a side and stick with it. Turley has picked a side–Trump–but he still wants to try to keep his finger in, I guess, by criticizing Trump for, by way of example, lying about his father being born in Germany. I think he knows that the day will come when Trump has been so thoroughly disgraced that only the Neo Nazis, the 3 percenters and Proud Boys will be his supporters and the Republicans will turn on him. However, I doubt that mainstream media will have him back any more than Hannity could ever hope for a job in mainstream media.
“Pick a side and stick with it. Turley has picked a side–Trump–but he still wants to try to keep his finger in, I guess, by criticizing Trump for, by way of example, lying about his father being born in Germany.”
I believe that Turley knows that Trump is a fraud, but he works for Fox so he can’t say so if he wants to retain his job. I was doing some research and I discovered this interesting article about Turley from over 20 years ago:
Certainly, not the same Turley then as today who appears on Fox for less than 5 minutes simply to buttress legally whatever Hannity, Carlson or Ingraham are lying about.
Indeed, Turley’s Fox sell-out is not going over well at GW:
This shaming at GW might explain why Turley is pre-occupied with defending every Conservative academic anywhere from any repercussions for anything they have said! He may be feeling the heat himself.
Turley tries not to pick a side in order to hold himself out as objective and impartial. Though he has criticized Trump, Turley never criticizes Fox’s journalism nor Newsmax nor OAN. So he has unmistakably picked a side when it comes to the media. I suppose he would simply say that he is just doing his Fox job because he has no other credible explanation for his blind spot.
I anticipate that he will eventually have to take a side on Trumpism. The day will come when those at Fox will demand that he endorse the Big Lie publicly or claim his criminal prosecution is a “witch hunt.” You are either with them 100% or against them. He won’t do either, and he’ll depart quietly. However, he will never wash off the stench of having had a hand in enabling Fox’s lies by giving them legal cover, by profiting from Fox’s marketing of rage, and by his craven refusal to condemn Trump’s Big Lie.
Despite his life long advocacy that good speech is the best antidote to bad speech, when it mattered most to do so, Turley spoke not.
Do the two words “pro choice” refer to chosing a professor? Or a pro football player?
Samford is a Baptist school. Meacham is a leftist. They had every right to cancel him. He should have never been scheduled to speak there in the first place.
Someone at the University failed abysmally to Vet the list of potential invited speakers. That’s really dumb.
Leftism aside, Meacham subscribes to the Pro-Choice religion that denies women and men’s dignity and agency, and reduces human life to a negotiable asset, not limited to the wicked solution.
“Samford is a Baptist school. Meacham is a leftist. They had every right to cancel him. He should have never been scheduled to speak there in the first place.”
Good for you! You are disagreeing with Turley’s premise that Little Brother censorship is just as bad as Big Brother. You agree with me! Imagine that.
We have more than enough free speech for the Marxists. They outnumber us 100 to 1.
The first Marxist was Satan the Devil. And we have been paying for his lies ever since.
“We have more than enough free speech for the Marxists. They outnumber us 100 to 1.
The first Marxist was Satan the Devil. And we have been paying for his lies ever since.”
On second thought, don’t bother giving me the thesis of that book you recommended. After this remark of yours, I know all I need to know about you….
Scared? If you were truly secure in your Atheism you wouldn’t be. “Perfect love casts out all fear.”
The “Born Again’s” were wrong about one thing: They thought that Trump would win the last election,
or that Biden would be removed. I know He won’t. America will be destroyed but the Indian will get it back.
Perhaps in another 400 years a new Columbus will return to discover the North American wasteland.
Listen to “Your On My Mind Like A Song On The Radio,” by Al Steward.
“Meacham has always struck me as someone who would not shy away from passionate but respectful disagreements”… Yup, lizard brains is certainly passionate and respectful… Please, give me a break
“Meacham has always struck me as someone who would not shy away from passionate but respectful disagreements”… Yup, lizard brains is certainly passionate and respectful… Please, give me a break”
Noboby’s perfect. Turley is looking at the man’s life work and not cancelling him on the strength of this one untoward remark.
If more on the left are censored maybe they’ll understand that free speech is for all. All conservative and liberals alike should be allowed to speak freely without outbursts from any group.
I don’t care for Meacham either, but he has a right to speak.
Turley rightly chastises Meacham for calling:
“Trump supporters as people operating with “lizard brains.”
However, Turley ignores the rhetoric of Rightwing Radical Michael Savage who wrote a book entitled, “Liberalism is a Mental Disorder.”
Not to be outdone, Mark Levin, Turley’s Fox brethren, wrote a book entitled, “American Marxism” referring to Leftists.
What do we hear from Turley about these Trumpist rage provocateurs? You guessed it!
The people on this thread who constantly attack a piece for what it doesn’t say are missing the point. Criticize what’s written, not what you think should have been written. Better yet, write your own column, but don’t keep rewriting his — you just don’t have the knowledge, skill or talent.
Again and again your argument falls flat if you’re telling somebody else to shut up and only listen to what you want to be said.
Fish wings says;
“Again and again your argument falls flat if you’re telling somebody else to shut up and only listen to what you want to be said.”
“Criticize what’s written, not what you think should have been written. Better yet, write your own column, but don’t keep rewriting his — you just don’t have the knowledge, skill or talent.”
Why don’t you respond to my questions and address my contentions instead of instructing me what I should write about or telling me to get lost?
Beyond name familiarity with Michael Savage and that he has worked (and perhaps currently still is) in radio, I can comment no further. Mark Levin’s current book (a New York Times bestseller by the way) in its many hundreds of pages is a scholarly attempt to trace modern liberal thought with its Marxist historical roots. It is not the work of a “shock-jock” as Michael Savage is often called. Books with provocative titles and covers are often brilliant marketing ploys to sell the book — not so much to accurately describe the contents therein. “Don’t judge a book by its cover” seems to apply here.
“Don’t judge a book by its cover” seems to apply here.”
I won’t throw away good money to buy Levin’s bad book. It’s a NYT’s best seller only because Levin promoted it for 3 hours a day on his radio show for months!
I don’t need to read it though because I listen to his show regularly, and he reads from his book as if it were The Gospel.
He calls ALL Leftists “American Marxists,” and he is incensed that more of his Fox colleagues will not follow suit. He will not, of course, name those Fox colleagues who refuse to smear Leftists as Marxists.
Turley is one of them. Bless his heart! Regrettably, we don’t know Turley’s opinion of “American Marxism” because he self-censors about his Fox colleagues. It stands to reason if Turley had something COMPLIMENTARY to say about the book, he would not hesitate to say so.
Turnabout is fair play.
American Lion was a very good read IMO.
Let him speak Samford. Not allowing him to speak suggests that you are not firm in your beliefs
They are not “pro life” students. Matheus are pro control students. “Pro life” groups don’t support life giving policies or even life protective policies.
Having said that I don’t believe any one should be physically attacked because of their views.
Yeah, I guess that “physically attacked” thing doesn’t apply to a child in the womb…
Do that & Banned Parenthood parade..
Do it to a dog & go to jail for life..
Pro-life groups stand for women and men’s dignity and agency, and to mitigate the progress of diversity (i.e. negotiable human classes).
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