For the first time in history, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau invoked the Emergencies Act to crackdown on what he has described as an attack on democracy itself in Canada. While civil libertarians in Canada have condemned the move as threatening core free speech and associational rights in the country, the American media and legal commentators have largely supported Trudeau in the use of these extreme measures. Indeed, I triggered a tsunami of criticism in stating that Canada could have used such powers to cut off donations for the Civil Rights Movement and arrest Martin Luther King today for such protests. This was due to the distortion of my comments on MLK being arrested (as opposed to being subject to arrest under this law). However, there was also an objection that there is no equivalency between the truckers and the Civil Rights Movement. Again, that is not the point of the reference: the comparison was to the type of civil disobedience used in protests. The concern is that the Canadian government could declare such an emergency to crackdown on any group engaging in civil disobedience through blockades or occupation protests. It could even happen to Dr. King today if marchers sought to repeat historic marches in Canada. Without meaningful limits under the law, they could also be unilaterally declared threats to Canadian “sovereignty, security and territorial integrity” by Trudeau for acts of civil disobedience.
With the emergency powers, Trudeau can now prohibit travel, public assemblies, conduct widespread arrests, and block donations for the truckers. This also includes freezing bank accounts and ramping up police surveillance and enforcement.
The Canadian Civil Liberties Association objected:
“The federal government has not met the threshold necessary to invoke the Emergencies Act. This law creates a high and clear standard for good reason: the Act allows government to bypass ordinary democratic processes. This standard has not been met. The Emergencies Act can only be invoked when a situation ‘seriously threatens the ability of the Government of Canada to preserve the sovereignty, security and territorial integrity of Canada’ & when the situation ‘cannot be effectively dealt with under any other law of Canada.’”
Such voices have been drowned out by media demonizing the truckers as racists or insurrectionists.
As civil libertarians, it is less important what people are saying as their right to say it. That includes people who speak through their financial support or donations. Millions in such donations were blocked by GoFundMe or the Canadian government in this crackdown.
It is often tempting to ignore the implications of such extreme measures by focusing on your disagreement with a given group. To understand the scope of this law you can simply look to how widely revered movements could be treated under the same provisions. For example, the Civil Rights marchers also engaged in civil disobedience in shutting down bridges and occupying spaces. As I stated on Monday,
“Now, when you put all of that together, you’ve extinguished the ability of thousands, perhaps even millions of people to express themselves through a form of civil disobedience. And according to Prime Minister Trudeau’s definition, he could have shut down the Civil Rights Movement. He could have arrested Martin Luther King. He could have arrested any number of figures that we now celebrate today as visionaries.”
On Tuesday, I returned to that same point and noted that Canada could easily use the same law against the marchers and Dr. King today. Trudeau’s government could cut off all funding for the Southern Christian Leadership Conference (SCLC) while arresting figures like Dr. King. I noted that “I thought [the use of the Emergency Act] was quite excessive. This is an act of civil disobedience. That is a standard tactic of groups going back to the civil rights movement and even earlier to block bridges and streets, to do what was referred to as — quote — ‘good trouble.’ By this rationale, they could have cracked down on the Civil Rights Movement. They could have arrested Martin Luther King.”
The “they” is clearly the Canadian government in its use of these emergency powers today — not a reference to arrests in the past in the United States.
As is evident from the entire interview, I was referring to how the Canadian government could use these powers against an array of different groups for similar acts of civil disobedience. I was not saying that Dr. King was never arrested. Of course, he was. I have previously discussed those arrests, including in recent columns (here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here).
To critics in our hair-triggered political environment, it did not matter that I have routinely discussed the record of arrests of Dr. King in past columns and interviews. It also did not matter that I was clearly referring how the Canadian government could make such an arrest today in shutting down contemporary marchers. The point is that it is not just truckers who can be the targets of such Canadian emergency powers. The sweeping language would allow Trudeau to shutdown a contemporary civil rights movement and a leader like Dr. King as easily as he did the convoy. Yet, even Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez joined in.
The second objection, however, is more interesting. People objected to any analogy of these truckers and their cause to Dr. King and the fight for civil rights.
Brooke Binkowski@brooklynmarie
Turley here is simultaneously conflating human rights advocates such as Martin Luther King with a bunch of assholes shitting up international borders because their disinformation handlers told them to and telling racists that white people get the worst treatment.5:17 PM · Feb 15, 2022·
Of course, I was not saying that the truckers are the like of MLK. I doubt the truckers would say that. Rather, I was comparing forms of civil disobedience. The protection of forms of protest should not depend on whether we support or oppose the underlying message.
People objected to the very notion that the Civil Rights marchers could be viewed as akin to the truckers. But that is the point. The law does not have any distinction. It could be used today against Dr. King just as it was used against the truckers. Indeed, Dr. King was accused of being a communist and a traitor by government officials during the crackdowns and arrests of the period. The Canadian law, however, would allow the federal government to use such claims to freeze funding and order arrests under the Emergencies Act today, including a figure like Dr. King for acts of civil disobedience.
We should be outraged by the use of such measures against either civil rights marchers or the Canadian truckers. As the Canadian Civil Liberties Association correctly noted, there is no limiting principle in Trudeau’s use of these powers. Trudeau simply declared that the convoy “seriously threatens the ability of the Government of Canada to preserve the sovereignty, security and territorial integrity of Canada” without any substantive support for that finding.
These are sweeping emergency powers that could be used against some of our most celebrated figures and shutdown some of our most revered causes. Under this law, the only thing preventing Trudeau from shutting down movements — even historic movements like the Civil Rights marchers — is his affinity for the cause as opposed to the underlying conduct.
The Covid Scamdemic has never been about health or safety. It has ALWAYS been about one thing, and one thing only: CONTROL. The lab-created Covid was spread precisely to achieve this goal. And the ultimate objective of wanna-be dictators like Trudeau (rhymes, not coincidentally with Castro) is to INCREMENTALLY impose tyrannical control over the population. The Vaxx, which does nothing to stop the spread of Covid or to alleviate symptoms, but which is also potentially dangerous to health, is one of those incremental tools. But this is what Communazis like Trudeau do. Unfortunately, there are loads of Democrats right here in the US and plenty posting on this message board that would be DELIGHTED to see Tyrannical Control and Authoritarianism imposed on all Americans. The Democrats, in particular, vote for it all of the time.
https://rumble.com/vuhcgn-comedian-heather-mcdonald-reaps-what-she-sowed-faints-on-stage-mocking-covi.html
Yeah Feldman, we’re supposed to hate Trudeau along with “vile” George Soros. In fact, every post of yours is about hating someone.
False, and you lie and attempt to distract from the truth, as usual. Moreover, you project, as usual. You and your scumbag heroes, like Trudeau and Soros are the haters. You and they hate freedom, hate liberty, hate facts and evidence, and hate human decency.
Feldman, exactly ‘what’ has Justin Trudeau done that is so offensive? The fact is that many Canadian liberals think Trudeau is too moderate. In fact many American liberals thought Obama was too moderate. But that doesn’t stop dead-enders like you from labeling Trudeau and Obama as ‘communists’.
Fascists think that way. It’s not surprising you agree with them. After all you are a fascist even though you don’t know what a fascist is.
Trudeau is the one spewing hate speech. Trudeau’s words about the protestors are full of vitriol, lies, smears, name calling and hate. It is coming from the top, from Trudeau himself. HE is the one intentionally creating division and hate among the people of Canada.
Instead of engaging and listening, he is refusing to answer to anyone, silencing anyone who attempts to ask him hard questions.
Trudeau created the “emergency.” He then gave himself dictatorial powers, with no due process, no judicial restraint. He can seize your bank accounts and silence you and lock you up just for “supporting” the protestors.
The media in Canada is corrupt and working hand in hand with Trudeau’s regime. The media is lying. The media IS the virus.
Trudeau must be toppled by the great people of Canada NOW or Canada will cease to exist as a free and functioning democracy. It is slipping away right now.
And this is not an exaggeration. Canada is on the brink of folding as a functioning democracy if Trudeau is not stopped.
The truckers will hold the line. They are doing so, peacefully. The reporting about violent, disruptive fringe elements is propaganda and lies.
Trudeau is panicing, and he does not like being challenged by these truckers he sees as beneath him — and he very possibly may end up creating another Tiananmen Square in Ottawa if the parliament in Canada does not MOVE NOW to remove Trudeau from his position as PM.
This is a very dangerous time for Canada teetering on the edge.
People need to pay attention because now is the time to fight for our democratic freedoms and civil liberties that are being stripped away as we sleep.
This is not hyperbole.
Watch the film Plandemic by Mikki Willis if you want to understand what’s going on.
https://plandemicseries.com/
After having read and reread this piece, I was left thinking, again, of just how precious our Right to Free Speech and Freedom of Assembly are. As a longtime student of Modern China, I am deeply concerned by the expedition with which Free Men and Women fall into behavior patterns more oft characteristic of political programs in major Communist States. The rabid rapidity with which one nominally free citizen and then, nearly instantaneously thereafter, a malevolent Red Guard, digital mob rises to denounce his or her fellow citizen(s) without contemplating the consequences for our Democracy is utterly staggering.
The mere fact that Prof. Turley himself has to argue a rear guard action (wherein he cites links, “here….here…here…here….here…here….here…here and here” to prior clarifying citations refuting his critics is worrisome indeed. It is worrisome precisely because such calls to reasonable and rational arguments can be found in writings of Hitler’s, Stalins and Mao’s chief critics–just prior to own physical liquidation.
Idea’s matter and they matter greatly. That Turley’s arguments are being turned against both he and Reason itself–amplifies my concerns. It is my sincere hope that Prof. Turley will not stare at his pen and turn away from his desk muttering words from Grahame Edge’s poem Late Lament “…Useless Energy Spent” but rather continue to counsel us towards a greater appreciation of all the Gifts America holds for each of us. In just such a time, Constancy to our founding Principles is precisely what I find in his words.
As per the late the closing sentiments in Edge’s poem–we must each decide.
Breathe deep the gathering gloom
Watch lights fade from every room
Bedsitter people look back and lament
Another day’s useless energy is spent
Impassioned lovers wrestle as one;
Lonely man cries for love and has none
New mother picks up and suckles her son
Senior citizens wish they were young
Cold-hearted orb that rules the night
Removes the colours from our sight
Red is grey is yellow white
But we decide which is right
And which is an illusion
Very eloquently stated, Mark.
The rabid rapidity with which one nominally free citizen and then, nearly instantaneously thereafter, a malevolent Red Guard, digital mob rises to denounce his or her fellow citizen(s) without contemplating the consequences for our Democracy is utterly staggering…That Turley’s arguments are being turned against both he and Reason itself–amplifies my concerns.
The constant attacks on our precious freedoms come from those with the myopic belief they are risking nothing in their pursuit of political gain. If they lose, they retain their rights to continue the fight. However if they succeed, they’ve done so by disabling rights for everyone, including themselves.
Sadly, author Graeme Edge–best known as the drummer for The Moody Blues–died of cancer last November 2021 at his home in Bradenton, Florida.
Yes he did. I have seen them in concert many times. Justin still tours and is in great voice. Best, M
Why not consider super-hero movies misinformation? And Finding Nemo. To suggestt that fish can talk is plainly false.
“Turley Uses Blog As Vehicle Of Misinformation”
– Anny
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Yep!
The Obama Coup D’etat in America is the most egregious abuse of power and the most prodigious crime in American political history.
The co-conspirators are:
Kevin Clinesmith, Bill Taylor, Eric Ciaramella, Rosenstein, Mueller/Team, Andrew Weissmann,
James Comey, Christopher Wray, McCabe, Strozk, Page, Laycock, Kadzic, Sally Yates,
James Baker, Bruce Ohr, Nellie Ohr, Priestap, Kortan, Campbell, Sir Richard Dearlove,
Christopher Steele, Simpson, Joseph Mifsud, Alexander Downer, Stefan “The Walrus” Halper,
Azra Turk, Kerry, Hillary, Huma, Mills, Brennan, Gina Haspel, Clapper, Lerner, Farkas, Power,
Lynch, Rice, Jarrett, Holder, Brazile, Sessions (patsy), Nadler, Schiff, Pelosi, Obama,
Joe Biden, James E. Boasberg, Emmet Sullivan, Gen. Milley, George Soros, John McCain,
Marc Elias, Igor Danchenko, Fiona Hill, Charles H. Dolan, Jake Sullivan, Strobe Talbot,
Cody Shear, Victoria Nuland, Ray “Red Hat” Epps, Don Berlin, Kathy Ruemmler et al.
George , et al:
I know everyone gets busy & many times don’t have all the facts. I know do.
The Detroit/Windsor Bridge protest against the Mandatory (Mark of the Beast) mRNA Gene Therapy Death/Clot Shots & that Vax Shot Passport is a different protest then the Ottawa Protest against the Mandatory (Mark of the Beast) mRNA Gene Therapy Death/Clot Shots & that Vaz Shot Passport.
The US Govt Abetted with our Tax $$$$ funds/Resources for the Canadian Govt to remove the Trucks from the Detroit/Windsor Bridge protest as the Canadian Tow Truck Owners told the Govt to Piss up a Rope as did C Military.
Reports from Truckers there, many of the Truckers at Ottawa are there with their Wifes & Kids because after the last 2 plus years of Just More 2 Weeks of Flattening the Curve of the Bio-Weapon, Masks, Forced By the Govt & Big Pharma, Many Truckers are Flattened Financially.
True Dope & his US Govt Dopes and Their Propaganda Media are claiming it’s the Truckers that now harming the Economy, The Govt heads Claims, Truckers are “Terrorist” for Parking their Rigs, The Truckers are “White Supermists” & they Hate MLK.
No, all that Govt Crap is a GD Lie, Many of the Truckers are behind on the truck payments, there’s No or to few profitable loads because of the UN/WEF Global Reset Eco Shut Down & many of those Truckers only home left for the Families is that Cab/Sleeper of that Truck.
And us US/Canada Citizens can’t even give them charity with both the US & Canadian Cash Freely Given through our Banking/Biz sector!
Slap your collective faces with some water & wake up…….. Ford, Chevy/Toyota/ MFG etc., were all telling us well of a year ago they were shutting down production due to a shortage of Clips!!!
Last Friday LA school kids were forced to wear Mask, Sunday people at the “Super Bowl” were not forced to wear Masks, yet Monday School Kids were Forced Wear Masks!
This stuff is past the point of Idiocracy!
Turley Uses Blog As Vehicle Of Misinformation
The fake Durham scandal will be chum to muddy up the media water as this full picture comes into view. It’s no accident that Trump himself has been madly pushing the Durham story in recent days. He’s very much in on this scam.
Phony scandals such as this one create a profound dilemma for the media. In the face of right-wing misinformation, news organizations must decide whether it merits coverage at all, since it’s misinformation, but if they don’t cover it, the right attacks them as biased.
The game is to cow the media into injecting pollution and sewage into the information environment.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/02/16/giuliani-newsmax-rant-jan-6-john-durham/
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Comparisons of anti-government insurrectionists to Civil Rights protesters is part of an effort to promote disinformation. And though mainstream readers can see through these tactics, Professor Turley persists with the calculation that by throwing enough $h!t at the wall, a certain amount will stick.
In this column Turley seeks to promote the talking point that White Nationalists, seeking to destabilize the Canadian government, can trace their roots to the pulpit of Dr. M.L. King’s church. As though Dr. King would have supported Donald Trump’s malicious plots!
And that’s exactly what these truckers protests are really about: ‘A malicious plot by Donald Trump to spite Justin Trudeau’. You see, ‘Trudeau is a flaky liberal who disrespected Trump’. So Trump wants to show his reach extends north of the border.
Trump also wants to intimidate the Biden Administration. The next January 6th will be a national occupation with rogue truckers shutting down our most important highways. And ideally this massive protest will coincide with Putin’s invasion of Ukraine. So that Biden looks impotent on the world stage.
Wow your giving orange man a lot of credit. Biden already looks impotent. As he threatens “sanctions” against Russia whist telling american gun owners we’d need nukes and fighter jets to repel his regime.
“So that Biden looks impotent . . .”
He doesn’t need any help for that.
I’m not surprised that news outlets like CNN and MSNBC are in favor of what Trudeau is doing. After all they were in favor of what Castro was doing in Cuba, and what Chavez was doing in Venezuela. Why should we be surprised.
THINKTHROUGH..
thinks CNN and MSNBC existed when Castro took over Cuba.
What an idiot!
Anonymous, in 2015 a Castro was in power in Cuba. Did CNN exist in 2015. Your buddy Obama visited Raul Castro in Cuba. https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/barack-obama-and-raul-castro-meet. Of course we know that CNN must have voiced their disapproval of this visit because CNN did exist at the time. You really must have spent a lot of time doing your research before you made your comment declaring me to be an idiot. Your not an idiot. You are mentally acute. It is sad to be a smart person but to also be lazy.
Thinkthrough,
Nixon went to China in 1972. And Raul Castro was an old man by the time Obama met him. So your outrage is manufactured as usual.
In 1972 Raul Castor was 41 years of age. 8 years later CNN was founded. Anonymous is wrong again and TiT is right.
In the process of reading a post incorrectly ATS insulted the one who wrote it.
REGARDING ABOVE:
NIxon went to China in 1972, not Cuba. And Obama was only 11 years old in 1972.
If going to China was okay for a U.S. president 1972, why couldn’t going to Cuba be okay for a president in 2016?
Who said Nixon went to Cuba? Who cares how old Obama was? CNN was founded in 1980, and the Castro brothers were both alive and involved. That makes your statement to TiT wrong and TiT right, even though you insulted him for no reason.
Presently you are changing the subject. You are not an honest broker.
You are ATS.
Anonymous, you have proven yourself stupid once again. TIT explained what any reader could see, so now it is time for you to apologize and take responsibility for your idiocy.
After all they were in favor of what Castro was doing in Cuba, and what Chavez was doing in Venezuela. Why should we be surprised.
Ted Turner was a deep admirer of Fidel, as were Hollywood’s limousine liberals:
Jack Nicholson, Robert Redford, Danny Glover, Kevin Costner, Jane Fonda, Woody Harrelson, Matt Dillon, Ed Asner, Shirley MacLaine, Naomi Campbell, Kate Moss, Oliver Stone and the latest, Steven Spielberg. That’s a partial list of the celebrities who have visited Cuba to gush over Fidel Castro. The dictator exerts some sort of snake-charmer appeal that makes hardened Hollywood veterans swoon like preteen girls at a Backstreet Boys concert.
– WaPo
Nov 16, 2002
Behold the azz kissing Turner of a tyrant like Castro.
Of course, I was not saying that the truckers are the like of MLK. I doubt the truckers would say that. Rather, I was comparing forms of civil disobedience. The protection of forms of protest should not depend on whether we support or oppose the underlying message.
It’s a shame that JT has to explain the principle point he was making. The mob are looking for a reason to be outraged and they get triggered whenever they view their icons of history, like MLK, being misappropriated.
Or, he’s rightly being criticized because his argument is undermined by historical facts: MKL Jr. was arrested many times despite there not having been a bill like this, and it’s the people who opposed civil rights who blocked the bridge in Selma, and civil disobedience often results in arrests, so that is nothing new. If he’s going to draw a historical comparison, he should get the historical facts right.
He could easily — and should — argue that “The protection of forms of protest should not depend on whether we support or oppose the underlying message” without introducing historical mistakes. He could also address which forms of protest are legally protected and which are not.
Prof. Turley’s post is NOT ABOUT MLK !
It is about of government abuse of power.
You just want something to snipe at and smear our host, so you have to ignore the substance of the post.
Did anyone notice the govt’s continue to crack down for decades of Seizing you Money & all Assets, even your body?
All the govts needs for their tyranny to succeed is for the ” Citizen Stakeholders” is their Blind, Obedient, Consent. So just jump on down there & get your govt mandated , (Mark of the Beast),
mRNA Gene Therapy Bio_Weapons Death/Clot Shots and your govt approved internal & external passports hiding as a Tractable Vaccine cards & E-Verify Tracking system That ILLEGAL Aliens don’t have to comply with!
No E-Verify card you can’t Fly or be on a Train!
Currently you have no Rights, nor any Assets, not even a non-corrupt Voting System. You, Prof Turley, Me etc., are no more the Chattel Slaves to the Govt! Hell just look at the Patriot Act of GW Bush & the Dick Chaney/Clintons/Obama.etc.
Has anyone seen or held a US govt issued $ 20 1oz gold coin, $1000 bill or a $10,000 bill lately? Yes, just trust the Govt’s latest Bit-Coin Scam. LOL;)
Alex Jones was Right.
Oky1 don’t forget we just about had a provision in defense act to draft all our women citizens too….but are the fighting age men flooding across the border registering for the draft.
Reported, the Border Patrol said 175,000 illegals in Jan 2022 that they know of just in the Texas sector.
How many more not seen & those on out to Cali of Military Age Males flooding our soon to be former nation?
Do the math on just the numbers we do have & it spells Titanic is well past meeting Iceberg already.
Olly, it’s an effort by American rightwingers to destabilize Canada. All the funding is coming from here.
No one in America is trying to destabilize Canada… Trudeau is doing that all by himself.
How does this destabilize Canada?
Well, as sea levels rise due to racist climate change deniers and misinformation forces bad cops to blame China for CRT, anti-vaxxers will force school boards to threaten transgender athletes to get their fentynal from homeless illegal immigrants.
Or something like that.
One rumor I heard was the CIA had the US Govt to give up on Afghanistan because China destroyed of the CIA’s Afgan heroin market selling much cheap fentynal around the world.
I thought it funny enough that the rumor had to be true.
😉 it’s as though these idiots are pulling random woke terms out of a hat to explain their worldview.
What will they do tomorrow, try to ban the word Freedom because it is a ” White Supremacist” word or something. Oh wait they all ready pull that one think 2 days ago..
There’s no telling what they got for the morning?
Gnite
🤔😏
“Well, as sea levels rise due to . . .”
What’s frightening is that your characterization of their “thinking” is *not* an exaggeration. Such loose associations (aka “derailment”) are a symptom of psychosis. Those afflicted with psychotic associations are not supposed to be cultural leaders.
Those afflicted with psychotic associations are not supposed to be cultural leaders.
Good point. They could select a homeless person at random as their spokesperson and not skip a beat. My apologies to the homeless.
1963 Front de liberation du Quebec, tossed Molotov cocktails at Military armories in Montreal, Bombed and robbed banks, Kidnapped the Minister of Labour, Queebec Premier, Montreal Mayor, and assassinated Pierre Laporte.
Oh Canada, Oh Canada, have you lost your blooming MIND? The truckers do not compare.
OT
Did Judge Rakoff sway the jury in “Palin vs NYT”?
Late yesterday, in the course of such an inquiry in this case—in which the jury confirmed that they had fully understood the instructions and had no suggestions regarding jury instructions for future cases—several jurors volunteered to the law clerk that, prior to the rendering of the jury verdict in this case, they had learned of the fact of this Court’s Rule 50 determination on Monday to dismiss the case on legal grounds. Judge Rakoff (S.D.N.Y.) from “Palin v. New York Times”
– Volokh Conspiracy
What good are rights, freedoms, privileges and immunities if they can be arbitrarily revoked by dictators, despots and tyrants like Just An True Dope, Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin and “Crazy Abe” Lincoln?
Freedom is always superior to enslavement; in freedom, there are always legal means to obtain solutions.
The judicial branch was created to support the clear essence of the Constitution; it has failed as a collection of high criminals.
In America, individuals enjoy the absolute freedom of healthcare, and the only licit and constitutional “emergency power” is that of Congress to suspend habeas corpus in a condition of rebellion or invasion.
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Article 1, Section 9
The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it.
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George, let me repeat. The English were supporting the south. Why would they support the south you might ask?. The English were getting 90% of their cotton from the south. What you might ask was the cotton being used for in England. The cotton was being used to make the sails for their war and slave ships. The south was supplying goods to the English that could be used in an attack on America. It was called “King Cotton” in the south for a reason. The economy of the south relied heavily on the cotton trade and they were willingly providing aid to the enemy navy to keep the money rolling in. The English were the most powerful nation an earth due to the power of their navy. In this instance a comparison of Trudeau’s actions to Lincoln’s actions is erroneous at best. Lincoln was addressing a dire threat by the English to our nation. The danger to Canada fostered by the truckers is in no way comparable to what Lincoln faced at the time of the civil war. To equate the two shows a lack of understanding of the severity of two different occurrences in history. One must ask then, were Lincoln’s actions more justified or are Trudeau’s actions more justified? Trudeau has put the acts of the truckers on the same level as the secessionist in the south. The word that expresses best what Trudeau has done is the word hyperbolic.
LOL obviously someone brainwashed on Woke Ed.
Please cite the Constitution wherein secession is prohibited – “Crazy Abe” just made it up.
Everything “Crazy Abe” did was unconstitutional, starting with the unconstitutional denial of fully constitutional secession, which caused all subsequent acts by “Crazy Abe” to be similarly unconstitutional.
Lincoln was a despot who illegally seized and perpetuated power (i.e. fixing 1864); he paid a despot’s penalty.
Apparently, a whole lot of Canadians perceive Just An True Dope to be, similarly, a dictator seizing power that he is not provided by Canadian fundamental law.
There were white conservative protests in the civil rights era as well. For example, when the feds integrated Alabama schools, white conservatives were there to try to stop them.
Not all protesters are looked at in the history books with equal fondness.
white conservatives were there to try to stop them.
You are ignoring that the KKK was the Democrat party enforcers of racial purity.
You need some history lessons, before you try to teach others. Bull Conner, George Wallace….Democrats
These white protesters were members of the current Democrat Party
Both parties have changed. Here is historian Kevin Kruse’s “Overview of the party realignment over civil rights”:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/991131180593541121.html
As he notes, “First, it’s important to note that, yes, the Democrats were indeed the party of slavery and, in the early 20th century, the party of segregation, too. … Indeed, as @rauchway once noted, one could argue that *the* central story of twentieth-century American political history is basically the evolution of the Democratic Party from the party of Jim Crow to the party of civil rights. … After Humphrey’s speech, the convention adopted a strong civil rights plank. It was a turning point for the party, the first major fight on civil rights in which northern liberals beat back southern conservatives and took control of the party on race relations. Famously, of course, Southern Democrats bolted the party in anger, forming the States Rights Democratic Party — “the Dixiecrats” — under the leadership of avowed segregationist Strom Thurmond … The realignment of the two parties happened this way, in fits and starts, as old Dixiecrats retired and a new generation increasingly ran as Republicans. It didn’t happen overnight, but stretched on until the 1990s in some places. But the trend was clear & well documented. … The authoritative study, though, remains the work of the political scientist twins Merle Black and Earl Black: https://www.amazon.com/Rise-Southern-Republicans-Earl-Black/dp/0674012488 “
Congratulations. Now you fully grasp the reality of the LIE of American “history.” “Honest Abe” was a facetious slur by a political opponent. Lincoln was a barbarically brutal high criminal with his unconstitutional total war, and he wrote the history books that were favorable to a despotic tyrant (there always were legal and constitutional means to end slavery). The fact and truth of his illicit and wholly unconstitutional dictatorial “Reign of Terror” was buried deeper than the current communist, Deep Deep State, Obama Coup D’etat in America. They put up a memorial for this murderous autocrat. Who does that? Cuba, China, USSR, North Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Venezuela et al.? Start here: Secession is fully constitutional, which makes every subsequent act of Lincoln illegal and unconstitutional.
Those who are ignorant of history are doomed to be a featured guest on Fox News regularly.
Cmon Po, even Bill Maher said Trudeau was talking like Hitler. It’s interesting that those who are actually ignorant of history tell others how ignorant of history they are.
ThinkItThrough,
While I have not always agreed with Bill Maher, he has been spot on with his commentary/calling out of what the Dem party has become.
I think the Hitler comparison is a bit early to call, but Trudeau is behaving more like a petty, overbearing dictator.
I would not rule out the possibility of him calling on military force to enact his dictates/will.
How would the military respond is the question.
Some are already questioning what an American Freedom Convoy would look like. Response from Red/Blue governors, LEOs, banks or crowd funding sites, Federal response.
It has been noted the COVID narrative has pivoted over the past week or so. A recent report has it the CDC is now considering dropping mask mandates at the Federal level. The number of Blue state governors whom have suddenly changed their stance, while claiming the science has changed is laughable.
Do the Dems fear the optics of what an American Freedom Convoy, uniting a large part of Americans, would impact the mid-terms, hence the COVID pivot?
People need to understand the history of MLK and other protests and need to understand that what happened to MLK was the police and others acting with the support of much of the conservative white population of the day.
To hear white conservatives today invoke his name for much pettier grievances and much more mild treatment is just silly and ignorant of history. It is one reason white conservatives are so anxious to whitewash history in our schools – through targeting CRT and bookburning, etc. is because they were the bad guys in much of that history.
history lesson, here’s one of the books that conservatives find inappropriate for 7-12 year olds. https://thefederalist.com/2022/02/16/meet-the-sex-shop-founder-who-is-grooming-children-through-books-in-school-libraries/. This book is from a guy who thinks it’s okay for adult males to have sex with boys. This book is presented in a format designed for young children. Are you in on the adult male having sex with children thing? I see that your into history. You might study history to determine the effect of hedonism on civilizations of the past. Caligula is smiling from his grave. You are either naive of history or blind for nefarious purposes. One can only hope that it’s the former rather then the later.
whitewash history in our schools – through targeting CRT and bookburning, etc. is because they were the bad guys in much of that history.
CRT is NOT being taught in schools and is only a 300 or 400 collegiate level elective course.
No books are being burned. Some books are under review by parents as to their appropriateness for use in the classroom
Many of those books could not be read aloud at a School Board Meeting, due to language and content.
Sorry iowan2, here is the criterion if the National Education Association on CRT being taught in schools. https://web.archive.org/web/20210705090534/https://ra.nea.org/business-item/2021-nbi-039/
Nope. I was informed by my betters in the comments on this blog that CRT was ONLY a college level elective. NOT considered in any way at public primary/high schools.
You are correct iowan 2. I present the actual guidance of The National Education Association concerning the teaching of CRT in our schools and yet the denial of such teaching somehow persists. They tell the teachers to teach CRT in the schools and then they are telling us that they are not telling the teachers to teach CRT. There’s only one problem. They actually wrote down what their recommendations are for all of us to see. They write it down and then they try to hide it. One benefit of Covid was that it exposed their true agenda and the parents got pissed off enough to win an election in Virginia that no one thought they would win. Hope springs eternal.
CRT is being taught in public schools across America. Virginia elected a Republican Governor, Lt Gov and Attorney General precisely because school boards in NoVa got busted with teaching CRT in public schools, e.g. Loudon County, VA
Yes, Virginia – there is Critical Race Theory in our schools
https://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/yes-virginia-there-is-critical-race-theory-in-our-schools/article_ba449c18-cf99-11eb-a719-4bfc9103236c.html
Nowhere in that link you provided is a criteria on teaching CRT in schools. There are suggestions on how to deal with the unfounded attacks on teachers, principals and school board members when accused of teaching something they aren’t teaching.
It is upsetting when people attack their religion. Catholics understand. In the 1970s and following, the Left in America attacked Christianity with all of their might. We soon saw them as Marxists who followed the playbook of Fidel. Now that the Left are being attacked for their Marxist ideologies like Anti-Racism, CRT and BLM, it is understandable that you deny the arguments lobbed by parents with children exposed to these leftist ideologies. Alas, you now have to accept your religion being attacked by those who reject it.
Schadenfreude, cupcake. Suck it up
You are so wrong in that the left doesn’t view CRT, BLM, or Communism as their religion. Just as few on the left as on the right actually understand those things as they haven’t been exposed to them. All they hear is the propaganda from the right telling them what those things are and accusing them of being attached to them.
You dont know Marxism. All you know are the dogmatic talking points your high priests in the Leftist Legacy Media feed you. I know Marxism. So does Xi Van Fleet. She adamantly opposes CRT in Virginia for the same reasons you embrace it. Own it
Xi Van Fleet, a mother who lived through Mao Zedong’s Cultural Revolution before coming to the United States blasted a Virginia school board during a public meeting over it’s support for critical race theory.
“I’ve been very alarmed by what’s going on in our schools,” Xi Van Fleet told the Loudoun County School Board members. “You are now teaching, training our children to be social justice warriors and to loathe our country and our history.”
“The Communist regime used the same critical theory to divide people,” she said. “The only difference is they used class instead of race.”
“We were taught to denounce our heritage, and Red Guards destroyed anything that is not communist…statues, books and anything else,” she continued. “We were also encouraged to report on each other, just like the Student Equity Ambassador program and the bias reporting system.”
“This is indeed the American version of the Chinese Cultural Revolution,” she said. “The critical race theory has its roots in cultural Marxism. It should have no place in our school.”
Someone saying something is not the same as it actually happening. I do know the economic theories that are the basis for Marxism (different than Communism) being that I was an Econ major and studied various economic systems. BTW, the ones encouraging Americans to report on each other are Republicans in Texas and Florida regarding both abortion and CRT.
Enigma – this is the NEA’s defensive points for teaching CRT. Did you actually read it?
I actually read it, it is talking points for those who will be accused of teaching CRT and encouragement to continue teaching facts in spite of those who do their utmost to stop them.
enigma – I speak Eduspeak and that NEA link was designed to allow teachers to continue to teach CRT. Take it apart, phrase by phrase. I couldn’t be clearer. HERE IS HOW TO DEFEAT THE ENEMY OF CRT.
They are under attack from the enemies of the CRT that isn’t being taught. They are supposed to respond with a strategy. Not the same thing as teaching it in schools.
Leftists denounce black mothers like Quisha King in Duval County, FL, just 2 hours from where Enigma lives, because they are racist.
Critical race theory began in the late 1980s in law schools but over the decades has become prominent in other academic disciplines and the K-12 education system. There are thousands of pages of academic literature and a number of textbooks on “critical race theory in education,” instructing primary and secondary school teachers how to adopt critical race theory principles into the classroom. CRT cofounder Kimberlé recently boasted that “critical race theory originated in law schools” but was adopted by “K-12 teachers”—“and that’s a good thing.” In the words of Richard Delgado, another CRT cofounder, “critical race theory is in some way livelier in education right now than it is in law.” While most K-12 schools do not explicitly label their materials as “critical race theory,” any school that is teaching its core principles—such as whiteness, systemic racism, white privilege, and intersectionality—is, by definition, practicing critical race theory in the classroom.
Critical race theory is a political ideology, not a historical discipline. It argues that America is a permanently and irredeemably racist nation—and that “all white people are racist” because they benefit from “white privilege.” The ideology of critical race theory assigns collective guilt to racial groups and promotes the noxious narrative that individuals are inherently oppressive or oppressed based on their race. We support teaching a full, honest look at American history—including the evils of slavery, racism, and segregation—but within the context of America’s highest ideals and our steady progress toward realizing them. Critical race theory is an ideology of racial pessimism, which is toxic to children of all racial groups. Teaching honest history is important; teaching a left-wing political ideology is wrong.
It is one reason white conservatives are so anxious to whitewash history in our schools – through targeting CRT…
Let’s take the protest and it’s substance out of this. What if a counter protester brought an assault rifle to try to clear the streets because the government was not clearing it, and then one of the protesters pulled his own gun and the counter protester shot him in “self-defense”. Would the shooter be considered a hero?
@troll
This is a fairly regular community of readers and commenters, and random, basically anonymous posts such as your are pretty much taken for what they are. Offer something of substance, please.
Turley has moment of mention on HuffPo:
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/fox-news-jonathan-turley-mlk_n_620c2362e4b0685128aec08c
Doesn’t shine, not even shoes…
Prof. Turley makes a salient argument, and the leftist, who can only hate on Prof Turley, ignore the substance, and argue for the sake of argument. Because to keep banging on the history of MLK, ignores the substance of the post.
Very true. And the irony is they do this to him as someone on the Left. It is a waste of time to argue law, sanity, or logic with modern Democrats. A total waste of time. Wouldn’t surprise me at all if before all is said and done they come out and simply rebrand as the American Communist/Socialist Committee, if not the American Soros Committee. Does anyone at all remember how Hitler came to power? For starters, psst: Hitler did not ‘overthrow’ the existing government.
Why do you think my questions are stupid?
Reading the lefty comments with dismay.
Our civil liberties are for all of us, not just favored groups.
The worm always turns and some day, another Facist will come for the lefties – and in seeking
short term gain, those lefties will have destroyed the society that could have, should protect them.
Many lefties are both amoral and stupid.
Years from now, when the history of the Canadian truckers protest is taught in schools, students will likely ask “why didn’t these idiots just get a vaccine shot like everyone else did and like all of us get today?”
And when their teachers try to explain about the QAnon websites and how people would get horse dewormer but not the vaccine because blah blah blah freedom, well, the students just will not believe it could have happened that way.
I can’t say you are wrong from your perspective. You act like a fascist and believe everyone must do what you say, whether good or bad. How does not getting the vaccine cause harm that can justify using “wartime” power? You can’t answer that without looking a bit foolish.
The history will be written by one of two groups in the future. The fascists who will create history to demonstrate how wonderful they are or by non-partisan historians who will recognize that had the fascists won, they wouldn’t have been able to write their histories.
Years from now, when the history of the Canadian truckers protest is taught in schools, students will likely ask “why didn’t
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… take their trucks and use the proceeds to buy more police equipment…?
Whilst you starve to death because without the truckers, you are screwed.
But the intellectuals missed that “link” in the supply chain. That is os often the case with those in Tyranny’s food chain, just as all is made clear, they, themselves, are consumed. God Bless our Democracy!
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“What is history, but a fable agreed upon?”
how people would get horse dewormer but not the vaccine
If only you were informed enough to know, ivermectrin has FULL FDA approval for human use, and over 3 decades of history across the globe attesting to its efficacy and safety
Verses the “Jab” (not a vaccine) that is still operating under an emergency use authorization, and less that 18 months of general use.
And yet, many people weren’t getting prescriptions for the human formulation of ivermectin and were instead purchasing the formulation for horses.
Apparently you can’t even acknowledge that a vaccine is a vaccine. Comirnaty has full FDA approval for those 16 and over.
And yet, many people weren’t getting prescriptions for the human formulation of ivermectin and were instead purchasing the formulation for horses.
He claims with no evidence. Not sure how stupid people doing stupid things, negate the fact ivermectrin is full FDA approved and has decades of history to attest to its safety.
Different then the mRNA jab. That as the rates of those jabbed increased, so did cases. A strange statistical phenomenon if natural infections plus doses administered covered over 80% of the population. And has less than 2 years of history.
Iowan2, ivermectin has full approval from the FDA…to treat parasitic infections. It is not approved as a treatment for COVID. That’s why a lot of people can’t get it to treat COVID. COMIRNATY, the COVID vaccine is fully approved by the FDA.
“ Not sure how stupid people doing stupid things, negate the fact ivermectrin is full FDA approved and has decades of history to attest to its safety.” It has decades attesting it’s effectiveness against PARASITES, But not COVID. There aren’t decades of research on the effectiveness of invermectin as a treatment for COVID either. Yet people taking the horse version are exercising good judgment on the effectiveness of the vaccine?
“It is not approved as a treatment for COVID.”
Correct.
“That’s why a lot of people can’t get it to treat COVID.”
Wrong. You don’t know how common off-label use of drugs is, nor do you understand why it is difficult to get. Every time you open your mouth you look more foolish.
Svelaz, your kind of all over the board.
But the fact that the mRNA treatment got full approval Aug,31 means 100’s of millions of doses were administered, prior.And, it hase just over a years worth of safety data. Ivermectrin has 3 decades of history, attesting to it SAFETY. That has always been my point. But India, and Japan experience shows ivermectrin is a good Theraputic. Cheap along with a long safety record means there is nothing stopping Dr’s from using approved drugs for off label applications.
“Svelaz, your kind of all over the board.”
That is putting it mildly. It is impossible to deal with Svelaz, for even when he is right, he frequently is right for the wrong reason. Good luck with him. He doesn’t understand that there would be no problem getting Ivermectin under normal political circumstances.
Ivermectin is a lot less dangerous than a lot of other medications used off-label.
Comirnaty is unavailable. The only mRNA “vaccines” available are the EUA variety.
Comirnaty is available in the US for those 16 and over (it’s only approved for that group). It’s biochemically identical to the Pfizer vaccine with the EUA; both come in a Tris buffer formulation and a PBS buffer formulation.
Try getting Comirnaty shots… I inquired. Several times. Several providers. It’s not available.
You can argue, all you want, that Pfizer’s Comirnaty and EUA mRNA “vaccines” are identical. And, perhaps, in formulation they are, but legally they are very different. Aye, there’s the rub… Comirnaty does not fall under the blanket EUA liability waiver… and it’s not available. Don’t take my word for it, check for yourself.
Johnny Boy, the government was ready to role out the vaccination for kids when it was discovered that it wasn’t going to work as expected. The children of the future will look at the vaccine and ask; Why did people take the vaccine when it didn’t prevent them from getting the virus? Why did young people without any health problems only experience minor symptoms? Why did they count people who entered hospitals for other reasons and it was discovered that they had covid without experiencing any symptoms? Why were we first told that masks didn’t work and then we were told that they do work? Why were infections in states that mandate the masks the same as states that did not mandate masks? Yea Johnny Boy, the children of the future will indeed have many questions about the way that the Corona virus was handled but your children will be told exactly how they should think.
When Trump or Desantis is elected president in 2024, Canada should be annexed by the United States.
“When Trump [and] Desantis [are] elected President and Vice President in 2024, Canada should be annexed by the United States.”
– Anny
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Dynasty!