Below is my column in The Hill on the subpoena war raging in Washington as the Jan. 6th Committee prepares for its first public hearings this week. This weekend, the Justice Department announced that it would not be prosecuting former chief of staff Mark Meadows and social media director Dan Scavino. As noted below, they took a wiser course of limited cooperation. The refusal to prosecute triggered a backlash from Rep. Adam Schiff who wanted to see more criminal charges out of the Biden Administration.
Here is the column:
In an initial court appearance following his arrest on Friday for contempt of Congress, former Trump adviser Peter Navarro stood before an obviously concerned federal magistrate. “Every time that you’re speaking,” Judge Zia Faruqui tried to explain, “it could mean potentially putting yourself at risk.”
It was entirely sensible advice about self-protection — and it was promptly ignored. Navarro, 72, went directly outside and blasted the charge against him, the Democrats, and the FBI.
Judge Faruqui’s concern was almost charmingly naive. We live in an age of the sensational, not the sensible. The Navarro case is just one skirmish in a subpoena war engulfing Washington. No one seems to be thinking much beyond the next election.
In the buildup to next week’s start of public hearings by the House of Representatives’ Jan. 6 investigative committee, Democrats have subpoenaed Republican colleagues and held former Trump officials in contempt. Then, instead of simply arranging for Navarro to voluntarily surrender, the Justice Department made a dramatic public arrest of him at an airport and dragged him off to jail in handcuffs.
These subpoena fights seem to be unfolding with little consideration given to the potential costs, either for Washington institutions or the individuals involved.
Democrats circle the firing squad
A variety of polls show, according to the political site FiveThirtyEight, that “Americans are moving on from Jan. 6th — even if Congress hasn’t.” With waning interest in the investigation, congressional Democrats and some in the media have pushed “blockbuster” new disclosures. However, many of their disclosures simply confirm what is already known: Then-President Trump and close associates wanted to challenge Congress’ certification of the 2020 presidential election and, instead, force Congress to select the next president. I wrote about that likely strategy just a couple weeks after the election, but that fruitless effort turned into a full-fledged riot in the Capitol.
The House hearings are likely to add details that damn Trump for fueling the riot and failing to immediately call on the rioters to pull back. Yet many of us reached the condemnation stage years ago; I reached that point while Trump was still speaking on Jan. 6, 2020, and opposed his efforts to challenge the certification.
The problem is not that the committee will move forward with hearings or a report. Despite its partisan composition and agenda, there is always a value to greater transparency about what occurred on that tragic day. The problem is the effort to ratchet up interest through conflict. The committee has taken the rare step of subpoenaing GOP colleagues, including House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, and threatening to hold them in contempt like Navarro and other former Trump officials.
Despite years of bitter political divisions, the two parties have long avoided using subpoenas against each other. It was viewed as a step toward mutually assured destruction if House members unleashed inherent investigatory powers on each other. House Democratic leaders, however, shattered that long tradition of restraint despite the fact that they may gain little from the effort. What they will lose is a long-standing detente on the use of subpoenas against colleagues — and they are creating a new precedent for such internal subpoenas just months before they could find themselves in the minority. Today’s hunters then could become the hunted, if Republicans claim the same license after November’s elections.
The House already is a dysfunctional body that allows for little compromise or dialogue between parties. The targeting of fellow members now will remove one of the few remaining restraints on unbridled partisan rage.
Justice delayed or justice denied?
Attorney General Merrick Garland is well on his way to setting a record for the prosecution of congressional contempt. The Justice Department has consistently refused to submit congressional contempt cases to grand juries, including a flagrant act of contempt by Obama-era Attorney General Eric Holder. There is ample basis for this charge as well. It is not the substance but the selectivity and speed of the charges that is notable. Navarro was only held in contempt in April and is now being prosecuted by a department long known as the place where contempt sanctions go to die. Yet, the Navarro case could quickly take a wild turn.
Navarro claims he offered to compromise with the committee but that he was asserting his right to remain silent. Putting aside such mitigating circumstances, the problem for the Justice Department could be the calendar: Despite moving at an uncharacteristically fast pace, the Navarro case likely will extend beyond November’s midterms. If Republicans retake the House, they could seek to retroactively rescind the House’s contempt vote on Navarro.
Technically, the Justice Department could insist that the act of contempt and the referral vote occurred under the prior Congress. Given the issuance of an indictment, the Biden administration could insist on pursuing the prosecution even if the alleged victim is no longer claiming to be harmed. And some Democrats likely would file to support his continued prosecution, even if a new majority of the House filed to seek dismissal of the case.
This prosecution and any appeal is likely to extend beyond the duration of the House committee. Last November, the Justice Department indicted former Trump adviser Steve Bannon on the same grounds; his trial will not occur until July. That will be the first such prosecution since 1982, when Rita Lavelle, a former Reagan-era EPA official, was indicted for failing to answer congressional questions. (Lavelle was acquitted of that but then later convicted of lying to Congress.)
The Biden administration did not have to act on this before the November elections. The statute of limitations for contempt of Congress is five years. If it hoped to get a quick plea and cooperation from Navarro, his defiant courthouse colloquy makes that less likely. The question is whether it will pursue these two misdemeanors — which could result in as little as 30 days and no more than a year in jail — if the next House seeks to rescind the contempt referral.
Self-defense or self-immolation?
That brings us back to Navarro. Judge Faruqui encouraged Navarro to consider the basis of his self-defense when Navarro seemed intent on self-immolation. In addition to announcing that he would represent himself, Navarro made an extended statement on the steps of the courthouse in his defense. He then incongruously said he could not discuss “legal matters” before plunging again into his legal defense points.
Navarro is known as someone who tends toward the path of greatest resistance. In a city known for highly managed criminal defendants with legions of lawyers and PR advisers, Navarro was a captivating figure as he held forth outside the courthouse. Yet for all that he has in terms of personal guts, he lacks legal authority. The problem is that even as he claimed executive privilege to avoid answering any of the House committee’s questions, he was publishing a book and giving interviews on the very subject matter of the subpoenas. It was an ill-considered course that may make him an icon on the right but could also make him a convicted defendant. As he repeatedly pitched his book outside the court, it seemed clear that his priority was not acquittal.
Navarro at one point asked, “Who are these people?” I have found myself asking the same question about all of the players in this subpoena war. Institutions and individuals alike seem to be in a crazed fit with little concern for how their actions may play out beyond the next election. But the greatest costs will be borne by the public, if our legal proceedings become as performative and shallow as our politics.
Jonathan Turley is the Shapiro Professor of Public Interest Law at George Washington University. Follow him on Twitter @JonathanTurley.
Should Putin be guillotined after he is arrested and put on trial?
You are telling Putin that he must prevail even at the risk of dying with the rest of the world because his life is over if he loses the war.
Not smart.
A famous Roman once said the people in power ultimately will determine the law. Just us.
The Justice Department and the FBI have become the modern day Stasi
“But the greatest costs will be borne by the public, if our legal proceedings become as performative and shallow as our politics.”
“If”? At this point, it looks like I’ll need to move to Canada to live under a fair, non-partisan system of justice. Oh…wait….
If Russia can launch missiles into Ukraine willy-nilly,
then it’s only fair that Ukraine and other countries can launch missiles
into Russia willy-nilly.
Russia is outnumbered.
Russia would lose.
“Other” countries can attack Russia, but then they would be at war with a nuclear super power. They have more sense than you do. Russia will not attack NATO unless they attack first in which case say goodbye to the US. Four Sarmat-2 missiles is all it takes to end us.
Russia has won the economic war and they are well on their way to winning the kinetic war. Get used to the new reality.
Dull, boring and bland…
Redundant (David), redundant (B) and redundant (Benson)…
David,
Take that Climate Change Bullshiit & shove it up your backside & start Emailing the Texas Ag Comm about their Weather Modification Cloud Seeding Terrorism against us Okies……. along with NM, & others with their Govt Airsol Poison Spraying!!!! Murdering Ph’ers!
Texas Ag Comm, Title 9 Sec 302
Sorry, Oky1. Ok is going to dry up and blow away. You’ll find it covering the Ozarks.
Victor Davis Hanson nails it in this article:
The law is no longer blind and disinterested, but adjudicates indictment, prosecution, verdict, and punishment on the ideology of the accused. Eric Holder is held in contempt of Congress and smiles; Peter Navarro is held in contempt of Congress and is hauled off in cuffs and leg-irons. James Clapper and John Brennan lied under oath to Congress—and were rewarded with television contracts; Roger Stone did the same and a SWAT team showed up at his home. Andrew McCabe made false statements to federal investigators and was exempt. A set-up George Papadopoulos went to prison for a similar charge. So goes the new American commissariat.
https://amgreatness.com/2022/06/05/the-sovietization-of-american-life/
Echoing Hanson’s observations….
Proud Boys Ex-Leader Enrique Tarrio, Four Others Charged With Seditious Conspiracy in Jan. 6 Probe
Seditious conspiracy charges are rare and represent the most serious offense leveled so far by the Justice Department in its investigation of the Jan. 6 attack. The statute, which carries stiffer penalties than conspiracy, is directed against those who conspire to use force to overthrow the government, impede its laws or seize its property.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/proud-boys-leader-enrique-tarrio-four-others-charged-with-seditious-conspiracy-in-jan-6-probe-11654546936
Yet Hillary, Obama, Biden, DOJ, FBI, CIA, all get off without so much as a whisper, if that.
No Justice, No Peace.
It is now a proven fact that Democrat Hillary Clinton approved the dissemination of a completely false Trump-Russia collusion lie. It is also proven that the FBI lawyers lied and falsified documents in order to feed the conspiracy against the duly elected President of the United States. A duly elected President of the United States was falsely accused and impeached twice based on lie. Treason is punished with death per 18 U.S. Code § 2381.
Everybody knows the facts now yet Natacha the Insane & her group of Anti-American flying monkey’s aholes persist with their bullshiit lie.
At this point people just have to quit responding to those Idiots that refuse to accept reality.
(Unless just for some fun maybe?)
Trump was impeached twice for things he clearly did. If you can’t see that, you’re willfully blind.
Why don’t you let us know what he was impeached for? Those claims clearly were debunked. Let me use your words and finish the sentence correctly. If you can’t see Trump’s impeachments failed and were debunked you are willfully stupid. But we already know that. Why don’t you tell us something new?
Yes, he was impeached for seeking an investigation – that unbenownst to him the FBI had already started into strong evidence of abuse of power by the Bidens.
If that is impeachable – in 2023 you can expect Biden, Harris and Garland to be impeached.
He was separately impeached for doing everything within the law and constitution to thwart a lawless and fraudulent election.
Our founders specified what constituted impeachable acts – and these are clearly not.
But they provided no mechanism to enforce their limitations. Therefore there are no real constitutional limits on impeachment.
As you may well lean in 2023.
Enough with the American Hating Commie/Nazi/Authoritarian Aholes like Hillary,Obama & biden goons, Schumer, McConnell, Kevin McCarthy & crew, etc……
The SHTF now, it appears fuel prices across the board more then dbl to triple in 3-5 months. At that rate Biz’s will go Bk & fixed income & SSI people will freeze this winter. With people Starving & Freezing to death there will be no point in the restraining fire. As I see it, they are done for at this point, 6/7/2022 imo anyway.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/06/exclusive-truth-january-6th-documentary-premieres-today-gateway-pundit-narrated-political-prisoner-jake-lang-inside-solitary-confinement-must-watch/
Olly,
Victor Hansen keeps raising questions that have logical answers. But instead of supplying them, he keeps moving on to more questions. Any con man can play that game! All you need is an indignant tone.
Is Hansen what passes as a ‘deep thinker’ to you?
“Behind all our disasters there looms an ideology, a creed that ignores cause and effect in the real world—without a shred of concern for the damage done to those outside the nomenklatura.”
You didn’t like that, so you never read past it.
If you read further, you will find more that you don’t like.
“Eric Holder is held in contempt of Congress and smiles; Peter Navarro is held in contempt of Congress and is hauled off in cuffs and leg-irons. James Clapper and John Brennan lied under oath to Congress—and were rewarded with television contracts; Roger Stone did the same and a SWAT team showed up at his home. Andrew McCabe made false statements to federal investigators and was exempt. A set-up George Papadopoulos went to prison for a similar charge. So goes the new American commissariat.”
In reality the questions Hanson makes are answers to the problems we face today. He was talking to the intelligent person not the brain dead ideologue.
Your lack of understanding is clear to everyone. Your ideology has robbed you of intelligence you might otherwise have had.
Try reading again, slowly, and see if you can’t train your mind and then discuss the many problems he laid out for you.
Well said.
Thanks Olly, and thanks for providing the Http. For some reason I missed that article which was excellent. It demonstrates the lack of critical thinking skills that anonymous has.
Alan,
From your brilliantHansen quotes:
“Behind all our disasters there looms an ideology”
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In the not-so-distant future major natural disasters will be common place. But ideology prevents Republicans from preparing for Climate Change. Preparation would require an activist government which is unspeakable to Republicans. They’d prefer super-size storm seasons instead!
Climate change formerly known as global warming isn’t what you think it is. Is the Statue of Liberty under water? No., but that was a prominent fear. There are only two questions. Is the warming that causes people to think the Statue of Liberty caused by man or nature or both? I believe many might have an impact, but certainly not what the Warmists worry about. More important is can man manage the problem at least for the near future? Barring some astrological catastrophe outside the realm of man, I think man can manage it.
From your tone, you sound like a Warmist. That means you know little about the things you talk about and less, how to solve any problems that might occur. For instance you talk about “super-size storm seasons” which is a myth and has been debunked. You think the enrichment of the billionaire class through carbon credits will solve the problem. You are gullible and in danger of being eaten next Thanksgiving.
The above was me. You don’t deserve a response with my name, but it is an important subject. I see after using dozens of aliases you finally settled on anonymous. It hasn’t helped your critical thinking skills nut it does place you in a place you deserve to be.
But instead of supplying them, he keeps moving on to more questions…Is Hansen what passes as a ‘deep thinker’ to you?
As much as I consider Socrates a deep thinker. You seem annoyed that VDH encourages critical-thinking. What happened; did you go into vapor lock?
Progressives need to be told what to think. They can’t function otherwise. Group think is all they have.
Progressives really want just one thing: power to do as they wish with no interference from anyone else
*** Nude Hunter Biden cavorts with hooker, illegal gun in latest mess for president ***
“A naked Hunter casually waves around a handgun and even points it at the camera while cavorting with a nude hooker in a swank hotel room, according to video provided to The Post by the nonprofit Marco Polo research group. The cavalier clip of Hunter Biden holding the apparently illegally obtained weapon….”
https://nypost.com/2022/06/06/naked-hunter-biden-cavorts-with-hooker-and-illegal-gun-photos/
Proof that they support gun control to disarm half of the country they despise. Hunter OTOH is “the smartest guy I know” according to his Dahdee
Typical left wing nut response.
If the hypocracy that Hanson is exposing has a valid explanation PROVIDE IT. And we can decide if you actually know what you are talking about. Which I doubt.
Sussman Brought multiple lies and a HOAX to the FBI on his own volutntarily.
He did not get some date wrong when questioned, or get sandbagged by FBI agents like Flynn did.
He initiated contact with the FBI, misrepresented who he was working for, and sold a HOAX to the FBI that consumed the nation for years and there are still left wing nuts who beleive it is true.
Clapper and Brennan lied to congress about matters of great significance to all of us.
Stone failed to recall exculpatory emails in his testimony. Was not provided with copies of his testimony for review and correct – which is the norm, and not only was convicted by a DC jury for lying – but additionally convicted for a crime that Even Mueller said did not (and could not happen)
Bad aquitals are remotely forgiveable.
DC Juries sending people to jail for the crime of being associated with Trump is more repugnant than Hansons criticism – worse still Federal Judges and prosecutors are all complicit.
None of these juries should have had many of the people on them seated.
Olly,
Yes, well, to the untrained layman’s eye. What Hanson said is pure demagoguery. Thankfully, Turley does not share such views. If he did, I wouldn’t be here. Turley will continue to disappoint you and the Trumpists here. It will be my pleasure to watch everyone’s growing frustration with him!
Turley will continue to disappoint you and the Trumpists here.
Continue? 🤔🤣
He doesn’t disappoint because he doesn’t abandon his constitutional principles. Conservatives respect that. That’s why you have been desperately trying to convince everyone that you and JT are fully aligned. And that’s a fantasy you’ll never realize. He’s a legitimate thought leader; you will never be mistaken as one.
Olly,
I too respect Turley’s opinions by and large. I repeatedly quote his words and hold them up to the face of Trumpists here who come to mistaken conclusions about his Liberal views or otherwise make irrational statements which he obviously would reject. I’m doing this as a favor to him.
Turley and I both believe that the storming of the Capitol was a desecration and Trump should have been censored by Congress. Turley does not believe there was massive fraud to substantiate claims that the election was stolen.
These views are anathema to Trumpists. You know damn well what Trump would call Turley if he learned what Turley thinks of him- a “total loser.”
I’ll stand by my prediction. I just hope that you’ll be man enough to credit me if my prediction proves true.
“What Hanson said is pure demagoguery. “
Jeff, what Hanson did was to provide facts, something you are unaccustomed to. Tell us what is not true in the following.
“The law is no longer blind and disinterested, but adjudicates indictment, prosecution, verdict, and punishment on the ideology of the accused. Eric Holder is held in contempt of Congress and smiles; Peter Navarro is held in contempt of Congress and is hauled off in cuffs and leg-irons. James Clapper and John Brennan lied under oath to Congress—and were rewarded with television contracts; Roger Stone did the same and a SWAT team showed up at his home. Andrew McCabe made false statements to federal investigators and was exempt. A set-up George Papadopoulos went to prison for a similar charge. So goes the new American commissariat.”
That is what is known as rational argument. When asked to list Trump’s significant lies as President, you run away like the ignorant spoiled brat you are. Then to prove your worth, you tell us where you live, even though mommy and daddy’s dollars can only buy an expensive barn. Since your brain is soft you use those big labels on your clothes to prove your worthiness.
Nope it is evidence of hypocracy.
And Turley has pretty much shared exactly that view. That is close to the topic of this post.
Your an odd creature.
You worship at the alter of the Golden Calf Turley – while oblivious to who Turley actually is.
You idolize a cartciture of Turley.
And you do this so badly you often mise the obvious TITLE point of a post.
Rather than worship Turley – often for things he did not say and positions he did not hold.
Try reading him and agreeing and disagreeing as needed.
Turley is smart, He is not infalable, but even when wrong he is worth reading.
One can deduce lack of interest in Jan 6 “insurrection” hearings for a couple of reasons, at minimum. One, no one has been charged with insurrection. Two (and far more relevant today), that old adage, “It’s the economy, Stupid.”
People ignored the Watergate hearings for the same reason. Oh wait, no, they didn’t.
Biden adm. has to be very, very cautious because otherwise the opposition will shout HUNTER!! – no matter how irrelevant doing so might be.
Because nobody knows about him as the Propaganda media doesn’t report anything on him. As far as rabid Progressives think……it is a conspiracy theory, but it is ALL on tape for anybody to see.
“FAKE” polls allow communists (liberals, progressives, socialists, democrats, RINOs) to say anything they like – they “shape” their “fake” polls.
Nobody knows who the proud boys are except the communists (liberals, progressives, socialists, democrats, RINOs) who have weaponized them.
Truth: Conservatives respect and obey the law.
Everything conservatives believe is clearly written in the Constitution and Bill of Rights of the American Founders.
“Crazy Abe” Lincoln voided, nullified and abrogated the Constitution and Bill of Rights with a vengeance, an illegitimate condition which illicitly persists to this day.
The source of his problem must have been compassionately repatriated by law in 1863; by law, America should retain no historical problems.
ANONYMOUS communists (liberals, progressives, socialists, democrats, RINOs) wield the courage of their convictions, as cowards.
Related J6 news: Henry ‘Enrique’ Tarrio, the longtime chairman of the Proud Boys extremist group, was indicted on a new federal charge of seditious conspiracy with four top lieutenants — Nordean, Biggs, Rehl, and Pezzola — in a new superseding indictment today.
Here’s the indictment: https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/press-release/file/1510791/download
Where is the indictment for this chap, or does he have connections so he can incentivize people to riot?
What Polls Actually Say:
Republicans, by 65%, Disapprove Of January 6th Riots
But 90% Of Republicans Think Trump Is Innocent
Yet 45% Of Republicans Support Committee’s Work
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Below is sampling from that “Five Thirty Eight” link Professor Turley posted to the column.
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A recent Navigator Research poll found, for instance, that 39 percent of registered voters thought the House committee investigating the attack was too focused on the past, compared to 49 percent who said the committee was doing important work.
And a January poll from the Pew Research Center found that Americans were pretty divided over whether too much attention was being devoted to the insurrection: Thirty-five percent said “too much” attention had been paid to the attacks, while 33 percent said the “right amount” and 31 percent said “too little.”
That Quinnipiac poll found, for instance, that 87 percent of Democrats thought that Trump had committed a crime. But Americans overall are divided on this question. Ninety percent of Republicans in that poll said that Trump didn’t commit a crime. Independents are split, with 46 percent thinking that Trump committed a crime and 47 percent thinking he did not. Overall, 46 percent of all respondents said they thought Trump had committed a crime, and 48 percent said they thought he did not.
To be sure, most Democrats still strongly disapprove of Trump’s actions. That Quinnipiac poll found, for instance, that 87 percent of Democrats thought that Trump had committed a crime. But Americans overall are divided on this question. 90% of Republicans in that poll said that Trump didn’t commit a crime.
This doesn’t mean, though, that Americans — including Republicans — approve of what happened on Jan. 6. In the Navigator poll, for instance, just 26 percent of Republicans said they supported the actions of those who broke into the Capitol on Jan. 6, while 65 percent opposed them.
But just because most Republicans don’t approve of what happened on Jan. 6 doesn’t mean they support the House committee further investigating it. That Navigator poll found Republicans were equally split between supporting or opposing the committee’s work (45 percent each).
Edited From:
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/americans-are-moving-on-from-jan-6-even-if-congress-hasnt/
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KEY PASSAGE FROM ABOVE:
Americans were pretty divided over whether too much attention was being devoted to the insurrection: 35% said “too much” attention had been paid to the attacks, while 33 percent said the “right amount” and 31 percent said “too little.”
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See that..?? 64% of the American public is either satisfied with the amount of attention the January 6th Committee has gotten, or they feel even ‘more’ attention should be devoted. That doesn’t sound like the public is ‘ready to move on’.
In any event, Republicans hold conflicting views of January 6th. 65% believe the capitol riots were wrong. Yet only 10% think Trump is guilty of wrongdoing. The idea seems to be that all those angry rioters were ‘not’ stirred up by Trump; a seemingly irrational perception.
Offtopic, but particularly well-written:
Ice viscosity is more sensitive to stress than commonly assumed
https://www.nature.com/articles/s43247-022-00385-x
Sure it is and that’s why the Dim blockheads are exploding about now! Bring on November! Not off topic but spot on.
DB Cooper, you don’t need to provide special notice to inform visitors that you are “OFF” topic.
Let’s do some more Differential Equations, Integral Calculus and Theoretical Physics today, K?
We may be able to “drill down” a bit on that “God Particle” then we can have lunch.
Whaddya say?
If you’re so superior there, what the —- are you doing here…they kick you out?
The little minds cannot refrain from commenting, as we just noticed…
Res ipsa loquitur – The thing itself speaks
Thank you so much, Your Eminence.
Off topic. The polar ice caps will melt. The oceans will rise and Barrack Obama will sue the realtor that sold him his beach front property.
Jan 6 and the months leading up was the first attempted coup is US history. This is not just politics as usual. This needs never to be forgotten about. Republicans tried to destroy our democracy and have openly said they will try again.
We have our ammo, our guns and our sights traines on you because First Amendment rules.
You can run but you can not hide, coward.
“The more the left encourages crime and social disintegration, the more the rest of us must prepare to defend ourselves and
our families.”
https://thefederalist.com/2022/06/06/scared-about-gun-violence-vote-republican-get-a-gun-and-prepare-for-self-defense/
The first coup in America was Abraham Lincoln’s. Everything Lincoln did during his “Reign of Terror” was unconstitutional, beginning with the high-criminal denial of the freedom of and right to secession. His most damaging campaign, however, was that of invading America with illegal aliens through his unconstitutional emancipation proclamation and his failure to secure the border and enforce contemporary immigration law, the Naturalization Act of 1802, which required Lincoln to compassionately repatriate illegal aliens, and his furtherance of Lincoln’s crimes of high office by his loyal communist successors who improperly ratified and rammed through the wholly unconstitutional and ill-gotten “RECONSTRUCTION Amendments,” for the benefit of Lincoln’s comrade and ally, Karl Marx, who congratulated and commended Lincoln for his efforts toward “…the RECONSTRUCTION of a social world…” in Karl Marx’s letter of 1864:
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/iwma/documents/1864/lincoln-letter.htm
You are just unhappy that you and your buddies can’t run around in white sheets while terrorizing people.
Actually, I am extremely unhappy that fundamental law, the Constitution and Bill of Rights, has been voided, nullified and abrogated by the communists (liberals, progressives, socialists, democrats, RINOs) in America.
The entire communistic American welfare state is unconstitutional including, but not limited to, matriculation affirmative action, grade-inflation affirmative action, employment affirmative action, quotas, welfare, food stamps, minimum wage, rent control, social services, forced busing, public housing, utility subsidies, WIC, SNAP, TANF, HAMP, HARP, TARP, HHS, HUD, Agriculture, Commerce, Education, Labor, Energy, Obamacare, Social Security, Social Security Disability, Social Security Supplemental Income, Medicare, Medicaid, “Fair Housing” laws, “Non-Discrimination” laws, etc.
Article 1, Section 8, provides Congress the power to tax ONLY for “…general Welfare…,” aka infrastructure, omitting and, thereby, excluding any power to tax for individual welfare, specific welfare, particular welfare, favor or charity. The same article provides Congress the power to regulate ONLY money, the “flow” of commerce, and land and naval Forces. Additionally, the 5th Amendment right to private property is not qualified by the Constitution and is, therefore, absolute, allowing Congress no power to claim or exercise dominion over private property, the sole exception being the power to “take” private property for public use.
Government exists, under the Constitution and Bill of Rights, to provide maximal freedom to individuals while it is severely limited and restricted to merely facilitating that maximal freedom of individuals through the provision of security and infrastructure only.
You want to force women to give birth but then have newborns starve to death if their family is poor.
You want to kill them in the womb, and if you can’t…starve them to death…Progressives are the baby killers
Crazy guy alert. This anonymous is crazy. Keep him away from knives and guns. Can you tell us how many families starved to death in the US last year? None due to lack of food opportunity. I thought not, because along with being crazy, you are an idiot. Why do you, anonymous make one stupid claim after another?
No one in the world starves as a consequence of lack of food – much less the US.
All global starvation is political – it is those with power preventing access to food.
No person or government is forcing anyone to give birth – nature does that.
Government is preventing killing the fetus – that is NOT the same.
Nor is there a social duty to feed others.
Postive moral duties are inherently optional and individual – we choose which we will perform, because not even the US nation can meet all positive moral duties that exist.
We aren’t Democrats. Biden eulogized Democrat Senator Robert Byrd who was a Grand Kleagal in the Klan. Learn your history Sammy instead of spewing lies.
Aninny:
Yeah a guy in a Viking hat “invades” the Capitol and sings songs, grabs a flag pole and stands behind a podium (looking more dignified than Schiff or Pelosi btw). Quite the existential threat to the Republic. Rioting and church burning by BLM in front of the White House – no problem!
Hear, hear!
The guy in a Viking hat “strikes fear in the hearts of men!”
The brave and courageous ranks of the Praetorian Guard in D.C. that protect “their” democracy, not the restricted-vote republic of the American Founders, may be slightly overpaid and over-commended.
What do you think the crowd chanting “Hang Mike Pence!” would have done if they’d found the secure location that Secret Service whisked Pence off to?
Rioting isn’t OK, not when BLM does it and not when Trumpists do it. Arson also is not OK regardless of who does it.
But you can’t bring yourself to condemn the rioting on the right. You cannot bring yourself to condemn an attempt to prevent the peaceful transition of power via Congress’s certification of the EC vote. Which makes you unpatriotic.
There is one big exception, Anonymous. The Democrat controlled House did not form witch hunt committees to investigate the BLM riots and attacks on Federal Buildings, which caused much more damage (Billions) than anything that was done at the Capitol on 1/6. This is a dog and pony show which will have little effect since folks are much more interested in how to feed their families, particularly their babies and how they are going to afford the gas necessary to take them to work.
BLM did not attempt to prevent the peaceful transfer of power. Ever.
You don’t know that. That is not something you will read about on a headline.
You must have missed the Kavenaugh confirmation and Trumps inaugueration.
LOL that you think the Kavanaugh hearings involved a transfer of power.
And BLM did not cause Trump’s inauguration to be postponed.
If J6 had been an insurrection – Trump would be president.
This argument is nonsense.
The collusion delussion was an actual coup attempt.
J6 was political protest against a highly suspicious and lawlessly conducted election that stinks more with each passing day.
Protestors do not have molotov cocktails. they do not burn things down, they do not throw bricks or use lasers to blind police.
Insurrectionists come with guns.
Regardless, you are free to think as you wish – as am I, and we are both free to act within the constitution.
And constitutionally we are free to protest any election – even a properly conducted one – as Clinton supporters did in Jan 2017,
And we are free to take that protest into the capital.
We are free to scream and shout and stomp our feet and demand that congress do as we wish. As the Kavanaugh and myriads of other protestors have.
You post a lot of stupid comments, David, and “If J6 had been an insurrection – Trump would be president” is one of them.
If bank robbers attempt to hold up a bank, it’s illegal even if they fail. Attempted seditious conspiracy and attempted insurrection are also illegal, even if they fail.
“constitutionally we are free to protest any election” WITHIN THE BOUNDS OF THE LAW.
Hundreds of people broke the law while protesting, and you can read the crimes they’ve been indicted for — and in some cases, already convicted of: https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/capitol-breach-cases
It is John Say that posts “a lot of stupid comments”!
David Benson: “John Say” ‘s actual first name is David. He used to make that explicit in his gravatar link, so I don’t consider this doxxing him. I was referring to him, not you, as I hope is clear from my having quoted him.
No, it is not as clear as you think. It was a rather dumb comment that showed you didn’t understand what John said. While being confused yourself, you confused everyone else by bringing David Benson into the discussion. The proof is in the pudding. David Benson is now here trying to clarify.
You don’t get anything right.
Dox, me, don’t, I do not care. In the past I provided my email address, which some posters have contacted me on.
J. b. say is the name of the economist who created Says law – the law of supply and demand.
I have posted here almost exclusively as jbsay. I have posted as jbsay on most of the web for over a decade.
I have also posted as asmith, rcoase, mfriedman at other times in the past and still do on some other blogs.
My gravitar has changed – because I am not logging into wordpress anymore as it is creating probelms posting on some blogs.
My actual first name is David. I share my real name with a famous director who has used the psuedonym Judas Booth.
I rarely post anywhere under my real name because I have a psychopath as a relative who is also a stalker, and psychopaths can use almost anything to harm you.
Even on linkedin under my real name I do not list current projects or clients.
When you are accused of fratricide by a sibling, and actually investigated – thank god for a good coroner. You tend to be careful about your identity.
I cannot possibly dox you by repeating information that *you* chose to make public.
Which part of I do not care are you having problems with ?
And yet, so far you are the one who is constantly wrong about all kinds of things you claim to be knowledgeable in.
You’re the one who falsely claimed the following garbage and then couldn’t bring yourself to admit that your claim was wrong after being corrected: “No Equation is a function. Some equations – including SB can be used to simply derive Functions. In fact that is probably true of all equations. x^2 + y^2 = 4 can be rewritten as y = SQRT(-2 + ln(4)/ln(x)) which can be turned into a function.”
https://jonathanturley.org/2022/05/12/protesting-justices-at-justices-homes-should-be-a-subject-of-condemnation-not-prosecution/comment-page-3/#comment-2187648
Your personal judgment about who is “constantly wrong” isn’t particularly accurate.
It appears the statement you quoted by me is correctly quoted.
I am not going to check it character by character – though you have already demonstrated that you are not trustworthy.
It is also correct.
It also it not what you claim I said.
As I said before READ WHAT I ACTUALLY WROTE – not whatever it is that you seem to think I wrote.
Further, you SAID many things about what I wrote, that are not what I wrote, and are not correct.
So again you are constantly wrong.
David,
I literally quoted you — everything inside the quotation marks comes from you — and I linked to the comment where you originally said it, so anyone who wishes can see that I quoted you accurately.
The claim of yours that I quoted is false, but you cannot bring yourself to admit it, and instead you double down with another false claim by saying “It is also correct.”
What you claimed in the quote is NOT correct, and I already pointed out to you (a) why it is not a function (you apparently don’t recognize that x^2 + y^2 = 4 is a circle with center (0,0) and radius 2. It is not a function because for most of the elements of the domain [-2, 2], there are 2 images in the codomain [-2, 2]. Because the elements of the domain do not have unique images, this equation does not define a function), and (b) what the correct solution would be if you had correctly solved for y: y = ±sqrt(4 – x^2), which is not equivalent to what you wrote.
“again you are constantly wrong.”
Again you demonstrate your ignorance, your arrogance, and your disinterest in learning.
We have been through this.
I do not know where to go when you link to what I have said, quote it and STILL can not READ IT.
I am not going to address this point by point – because it is STILL evident that you `are reading MORE into what I wrote than is actually there.
A common left wing nut trait – such as assuming that you know what I know or in this case what I do not know.
I chose the formula for a circle, of course I knew it was a circle.
AND as you completely miss, a PART of MY argument was that all equations can not be transformed into functions.
The equation for a circle can be rewritten in the form of a function, but it is not a function for the reasons you cite.
Regardless, I are repeatedly asked you to READ what I wrote CAREFULLY,
And you have not done so.
Your detailed criticism would be true if I had written something different than what I did.
Of course your criticism would STILL be proving DB wrong rather than me.
If you are going to get incredibly pedantic – atleast READ carefully.
Don’t assume that something says more than it actually says.
ATS is doing the same thing he does when discussing political issues. He knows his position is indefensible, so he searches for a missing comma and fights at a different level. ATS dishonestly tries to confuse others into thinking that a misplaced comma means the rest of the argument is wrong.
ATS understands the rules and knows how to apply them, but he can’t think out of the box. That is what kept him back. He is a person who can help one the thinking person but cannot be the one who has out-of-the-box thinking.
If he wishes to focus on attacking grammar and sentence construction
then he should atleast get that right.
But yes, left wing nuts fixate on irrelevant nonsense.
Constantly every discussion veers off into crazy debates over points that are meaningless to the actual discussion.
EB wants to debate nonsense about sharks, when he can get anywhere with the high death rate of slave ship crews.
ATS wants to debate whether the equation for a circle is a function when my POINT to EB was that equation and function are not the same thing.
All of this was a DB tangent to the real debate over CAGW.
What has been demonstrated is that you read into things rather than reading carefully
Ad hominem is not argument
Ranting that what I say is “stupid” – just because you do not like it is ….. Stupid.
You bandy the words crime sedition conspiracy arround as if they are magical.
If the J6 protestors had come armed with AR-15’s – it would not have mattered what YOU call a criminal seditious conspriacy.
Just as it did not matter what King George thought was a criminal seditious conspiracy after Conwallis surendered at Yorktown in 1781.
I would also suggest reading the Declaration of independence – there is no such thing as sedition when Government is lawless.
Further the history of sedition in the US is ignoble. Adams passed the first alien and sedition act to lock up political opponents – shades of Hillary Clinton. Woodrow Wilson used a later Sedition act to imprison Eugene Debbs – a communist who opposed US involvement in WWI. You think you are teaching people a lesson – you are making martyrs of them, but you are teaching them a lesson – that you are lawless and vindictive.
Those of you on the left do not seem to grasp that the more lawless you behave the more likely violence is.
But beyond that:
Conspiracy is not a crime – unless it is conspiracy to comit an act that is independent of the conspiracy a crime.
Bank robery is an actual crime.
Political opposition is not.
Nor is petitioning government,
Nor is posession of a gun – for most americans.
In late may 2020 armed protestors in MI marched to the capital, peacefully protested and left –
Nothing was damaged no one was injured. They spoke their minds as they were legally and constitutionally permitted.
No sedition, no crime, but absolutely a conspiracy.
Beleiving something that is true is NEVER a crime.
Nor is beleiving something that is false.
Acting within the constraints of the constitution – which whether you like it or not is what Trump, and those affiliated with him did – is not a crime.
J6 protestors can not tresspass on the capital – because any tresspass law while congress is in session would violate nearly every clause in the first amendment. The capital was unconstitutionally locked down while congress was in session.
I am not aware of that EVER happening before. Because it is UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
Two muders were committed on J6 – both by capital police.
But opposition to certificatification of the electoral college vote is obviously constitutional, and legal – it has occured in every election a republican won in my lifetime. It occured when Trump was elected in 2016.
Further in 2016 Clinton and many other democrats plead with electors to vote differently from the requirements of their state.
Was Clinton arrested ? Did she commit sedition ?
In 1876 Tilden won the election. But allegations of election fraud – much like the 2020 election, resulted in congress appointing a commission, the commision concluded that Harris had won and the Congress confirmed Harris.
All of this is FULLY constitutional. And that is approximatly what J6 protestors wanted.
Only left wing nuts think that actions that are as constitutional and legal today as they were 150 years ago as suddenly criminal conspiracy and sedition.
Turley porovided Biden excellent advise in Nov. 2020 – Demand a proper inquiry. It took AZ nearly 9 months to complete a thorough audit of the 2020 election. That audit found lots of problems, including many that are indicators or possible fraud. But it did not find a smoking gun. Any serious inquiry that Biden agreed to that would be complete in time for the electoral college to certify the vote would not have found a smoking Gun. Myriads of factors regarding the 2020 election were indicators of probable fraud. But in Nov. 2020 all Trump had was smoke – lots of smoke, but no fire, and it was unlikely anyone would find compelling evidence of large scale fraud before the election was certified. Biden agreeing to an expidited inquiry would have put claims of Fraud to bed relatively quickly. It would have given democratic government the legitimacy it does not have for most people.
But resisting by hook or crook only made democrats look even more guilty. It has taken two years to sort between the fraud claims that are likely true and those that are likely false. Partly because many of those that are with near certainty false are also with near certainty possible in the future. Regardless, what has been found is a massive ballot harvesting operation – atleast 380K votes just in the 6 key states and probably more than a million ballots harvested in those states. All states where ballot harvesting is illegal.
We still do not know where the harvested ballots came from – we do not know whether they were filled out in sweat shops by illegal immigrants. or gathered by democratic operatives banging on reluctant voters arms and breathing down their necks. But we know they were done in violation of election laws. And that this was only possible because democrats forced mailin voting on the country – contrary to most states laws and constitutions, and forced unattended ballots boxes on the country.
The more lawless you behave – the more likely you get violence.
How about making public all the video from J6 including police bodycam video
Then we can all see and judge.
That’s what Pelosi’s J6 Committee is for, silly….to cover up what really happened in the Fedsurrection.
Pelosi’s J6 Committee is there specifically to make sure the truth and the facts about everything that happened on J6 is never made public.
Nancy would never allow that. She probably bleachbit them so that she could hide the evidence.
Must be nice not having to worry about thinking things through.
Democrats spent 4 years destroying our democracy with their HRC DNC Russia lies. They corrupted the FBI/CIA with HRC/DNC lies, they destroyed law enforcement, and disseminate lies about our country’s founding.
Through their puppet Biden they are destroying the US with high inflation, declining wage growth, destroying business with their Covid health rules, encouraging unfettered illegal immigration, ruining our energy independence which created a safer world, they have a dangerous fascist loving foreign policy and support/beg from regimes like Cuba, Iran, Vanezuela, etc. They use the propogandist media, and their insulated lackeys like Schiff, Swalwell, Rice, etc disseminate their lies.
The DNC/left/liberals/Dems have a public and stated agenda to destroy/fundamentally change the US, our democracy, and our country. They hate the US and the average joe and joanne.
News from the Swamp:
There have been reports of increased crocodile activity in the DC swamp along the Potomac River. The crocodiles have been known to hide in bureaucratic bushes, committee rooms, and houses of legislatures. They are known to hide their offspring in areas known as Hoover, Justice, Russell, Rayburn and Foggy Bottom. These creatures camouflage their identity as Donkey’s so as to ambush and eat any unsuspecting pray. Their appetite is ravenous and perilous to those that dare to challenge the waters of the DC swamp.
A watchful eye is a must when in the DC swamp.
Turley: your purchased hypocrisy is literally stunning: “Institutions and individuals alike seem to be in a crazed fit with little concern for how their actions may play out beyond the next election. But the greatest costs will be borne by the public, if our legal proceedings become as performative and shallow as our politics.” You made this assertion in a piece actually criticizing Democrats, as if it’s Democrats who: 1. cheated to get the presidency in 2016 by accepting help from Russian hackers who spread lies about the other party’s candidate; 2. wouldn’t cooperate with an ivestigation into Russian interference in our elections; 3. Publicly sided against American intelligence and in favor of Putin, a mass murderer, at Helsinki; 4. Lobbied to get Russia back into the G-7; 5. Trashed NATO and the EU because they oppose Putin; 6. When polls predicted that the Presidency would go Democratic, started, before Election Day, lying about a “landslide victory” that would be “stolen” due to “rigging”; 7. When the polls were proven right, tried to bully, litigate, and then force Congress to award him the presidency even though he lost not just the poular vote, but the Electoral College/?; 8. continues going on rallies to try to undermine the validly-elected POTUS, continues to lie about his “landslide victory” being “stolen”, and is trying to use his influence to stack Congress with Republicans who could help him cheat his way back into office, because he knows that most Americans find him repulsive. Here’s a hint for you, Turley: NO OTHER US PRESIDENT HAS EVER DONE THESE THINGS, NOT EVEN RICHARD NIXON, the former holder of the dubious prize of being the most-corrupt former president.
What were Democrats supposed to do? Pretend Jan 6th never happened–that a gallows wasn’t erected along with chants of “Hang Mike Pence”? Pretend that the loser of the 2020 election didn’t tell his fans to “fight like hell or you’re not going to have a country any more” and that he’d lead them to the Capitol to try to stop Biden’s victory from being certified, and this coming after litigation and bullying didn’t work? Pretend that the safety and lives of members of Congress weren’t placed at risk by the Big Lie? Pretend that our Capitol wasn’t desecrated with smashed doors and windows, with human excrement on floors and walls, the Speaker’s Office wasn’t entered, her papers rifled and a laptop weren’t stolen? Democrats are just supposed to ignore these egregious things because you’ve been paid to spin the investgation as part of a “partisan agenda”? Yes, subpoenas haven’t commonly been necessary to summon members of Congress or members of administrations to appear and testify, because before Trump, there was respect for the rule of law and authority of Congress to conduct investigations. You accuse Democrats of “shattering traditions”? How outrageous.can you get, Turley? What about our American traditions of the peaceful transfer of power, of respect for the tradition of attending the successor’s inauguration and welcoming him and his family to the White House, of going away quietly after the election and not interfering with the election winner’s agenda, of not getting involved in partisan politics, all as respect for the will of the American people, the rule of law and Constitution? What about those traditions being “shattered”, Turley? You’re paid to gripe about Navarro getting publicly arrested at an airport instead of being allowed to surrender? What makes you think he’d surrender when he thumbed his nose at the subpoena in the first place, just like Bannon and other membes of the fat one’s inner circle?
You’ve tried and failed to spin the Jan 6th hearings as an exercise in partisan politics. It’s clear that this was today’s assignment, but it isn’t working. You’re just part of the paid effort by alt-right media to distract from the bombshells that are coming, just as Trump has commanded.
JT is a Republican partisan. He does not care one lick about our democracy.
says the trans who grooms children. How many children have you groomed, groomer?
Show us on your Biden doll where you touched them
He is a Democrat and I believe always has been. What he is fair and has a deeper understanding of the law than most of his readers. Maybe spend some time thinking about his frequently beyond the norm, wise words.
JT is a dying breed – actual liberals.
Natacha, what are you smoking? Is it sold in cigarette machines? Or are you smoking some of those bananas from Banana Republics?
NUTCHACHACHA,
You’re Grrrrrreat!!!
You don’t need that crutch, right?
Can we level the playing field now so that MERIT MATTERS, and so that you go out into to that great big world and pursue your own happiness and make your own success in freedom?
Can we end unconstitutional matriculation affirmative action, grade-inflation affirmative action, employment affirmative action, quotas, welfare, food stamps, minimum wage, rent control, social services, forced busing, public housing, utility subsidies, WIC, SNAP, TANF, HAMP, HARP, TARP, HHS, HUD, FED, Agriculture, Commerce, Education, Labor, Energy, Obamacare, Social Security, Social Security Disability, Social Security Supplemental Income, Medicare, Medicaid, “Fair Housing” laws, “Non-Discrimination” laws, etc., now?
You don’t need that crutch, right?
Does Act Blue pay you by the word?
It’s time to ID alien invaders from another galaxy…..Alien beings from a dying planet have come to make planet Earth their world. Tonight’s episode is GENESIS.
Starring: Adam Schiff, Nancy Pelosi, Maxine Waters & Ted Lieu.
There are several issues here:
1. Disparate treatment — some charged with contempt are indicted while others are not. Navarro yes, Holder no. This is also true of those who lie to Congress. Some like Stone are indicted while others like Brennan and Clapper are not.
2. If Trump asserts executive privilege, can Biden ignore it? The law appears to allow for that. This means that a president is subject to the partisan passions of his successor for the protection of confidential communications, which seems like a bad idea.
3. Is there a testimonial privilege for senior officials, or are these officials required to appear and assert executive privilege question by question? Navarro cited an OLC legal opinion, but I’m not aware that there is judicial authority behind that.
In any event, Navarro’s public arrest, using handcuffs and leg irons, was beyond the pale.
Daniel,
You say “1. Disparate treatment — some charged with contempt are indicted while others are not. Navarro yes, Holder no,” while omitting that the DOJ has also chosen not to indict Meadows and Scavino. If you looked at those the DOJ has declined to prosecute in both Democratic and Republican administrations, you’d find that they decline to prosecute those close to the President (e.g., the AG and Chief of Staff). As Harry Litmann (former DOJ DAG) noted in an interview yesterday, “Remember with Mueller those dreaded OLC memos? In that case, it said you can’t indict a sitting president. He considered himself bound. The Office of Legal Counsel has issued opinions saying for [a] certain, very small circle of presidential advisers, they have a right to so-called testimonial immunity. My best guess is Meadows and Scavino, that looks like an immediate adviser.”
“2. If Trump asserts executive privilege, can Biden ignore it?”
Yes. Privilege attaches to the office, and so only attaches to the person while the person is in office.
“Navarro’s public arrest, using handcuffs and leg irons, was beyond the pale.”
The DOJ has publicly arrested lots of people using handcuffs over the years. Why should it be any different for Navarro?
“The DOJ has publicly arrested lots of people using handcuffs over the years. Why should it be any different for Navarro?”
Pure Stupidity. Navarro isn’t violent. You don’t understand why they put Navarro in handcuffs and leg irons. Almost everyone with a brain, no matter what side of the aisle they are on understands the real reason. You don’t. That is amazing.
We have to be able to compel truthful testimony before Congress but when claims of privilege, or challenges to the legitimacy of the subpoena are made, there is a process for resolving them.
There is usually negotiation then there may be a declaration of contempt with further negotiations.
The process can take years (Holder took 5 years I think). The problem here is that adherence to the norms may conflict with the partisan motives which are behind this committee.
This is a return to normalcy?
Congress is not a law enforcement agency.
Their investigatory powers are limited to legislation and oversight.
I honestly do not care what we decide the satandards are for executive priviledge.
So long as whatever it is, it applies to all parties.
Democrats have destroyed any semblance of constitutionality in congress.
The constitution has requirements for impeachment as well as for congressional rules.
But there is no outside mechanism for enforcement. Which means the constititonal limits are not real.
If that is how it is today.
That is how it should be in November.
More important than investigation is legislation, to show what a Republican alternative government could do. The focus should be to strip away the leeway that the administrative state and judiciary have to impose a progressive agenda that was never passed by Congress. Here are some ideas:
1. Ensure that carbon is not a pollutant subject to regulation by the EPA.
2. Ensure that racial and other preferences are not permissible under the Civil Rights Act.
3. Ensure that sex means biological sex determined at birth for purposes of the Civil Rights Act, including Title IX.
4. Ensure that the Federal Government has no authority under current law to impose vaccination requirements other than in the military (subject to exceptions).
This would not be complex legislation and would clear out much of the overweening power of the executive branch in critical areas. To the extent these areas should be regulated, legislation dealing with them could also be passed.
For example, a law could be passed prohibiting discrimination against anyone on the basis of their so-called gender identity in employment decisions.
Another law could be passed to accelerate leasing and permitting of fossil fuel projects, and to stop discouraging investment in these projects.
The objective of all this would be to seek to restore the legislative power to Congress, where it is supposed to be.
Without a filibuster proof Senate, and control of the Presidency, these measures could not become law. But it would show what would be possible with a change of regime.
Though these measures would lead to an outcry in the media, I believe they would be broadly popular. They could set the stage for a DeSantis administration.
Excess carbon dioxide in the atmosphere s a pollutant. Elemental carbon is no problem.
Too bad tht you don’t even know high school chemstry…
Tell that to John Kerry and his buddies who spew the most in the world besides China and India. Tell them about ZOOM. They can stay home instead of flying private to lecture the rest of us about our carbon footprint which is nonexistent compared to theirs.
3. Ensure that sex means biological sex determined at birth for purposes of the Civil Rights Act, including Title IX.
Daniel,
Here is an absolutely wonderful documentary titled What is a Man?that bookends Matt Walsh’s What is a Woman? It appears to be approximately 1 1/2 hours in length, but it really gets to the heart of the topic within the 1st minute. It’s a must see, especially for anyone not quite sure.
Excellent documentary, Olly. Love the list of credits, especially.
Here’s one to add:
Answer if you can.
We have to be able to compel truthful testimony before Congress
Why. The only constitutional power Congress has to call witnesses is for the purpose of writing legislation.
Peter Schiff promises he has more information. Still waiting on his proof or Russian collusion that he apparently withheld from the Mueller investigation, the public, and the Durham investigation. I’m guessing this info is in the same place.
Jonathan: You say there is a “subpoena war engulfing Washington”. That’s because the former members of the Trump administration have invited the war. When a House committee asks a person to voluntarily appear and testify and that person refuses a subpoena is issued. If the person defies the subpoena a referral can be made to the DOJ for prosecution. That’s what happened to Peter Navarro. Everything the House Jan. 6 committee did was within its powers under the Constitution and the law. You claim the Dems are engaging in “mutual assured destruction. That’s because if the Republicans take back control of the House they have already threatened revenge. GOP House members are already talking about trying to impeach Biden. Now that will be a “subpoena war” the likes of which no one has ever seen. I want to see what you have to say when or if that happens.
This brings me to the “war” the GOP is waging against gun control and their bizarre proposals to protect children in our schools. D. Allan Kerr, journalist and author, has a piece in Maine’s Portsmouth Herald yesterday entitled: “Want to end school shootings? Let’s arm the Kids”. Now why didn’t I think of that? The NRA will love Kerr’s proposal. It makes perfect sense. Every school kid (10 or older) will be given a Glock 9 or similar gun. This will really appeal to gun manufacturers. Naturally kids will have to be properly trained. Kerr suggests that part of PE should be set aside for target practice on school grounds. Why the 10 yr old restriction? Kerr says: “I mean that’s the age when kids should be familiar with guns anyway if they’re going to grow up in the USA”. There’s one minor problem. What happens when armed kids form a circle to play dodgeball? Someone will come up with a good solution for that.
So when kids and teachers are all armed a Salvadore Ramos wannabe will think twice about entering another school. I like Kerr’s proposal. What about you and all the 2nd Amendment types who frequent this chatroom?
“Everything the House Jan. 6 committee did was within its powers under the Constitution and the law.”
A flagrant lie.
Anonymous: If my statement is a “flagrant lie” how do you account for the fact that back in January the very conservative SC majority ruled Trump could not refuse to turned over requested docs to the House Committee? Clarence Thomas was the only dissenter in that opinion. Even Turley doesn’t claim the Jan. 6 investigation is somehow flawed under the Constitution. He only objects to the snowstorm of subpoenas coming out of the Committee. But that was due to the refusal of Peter Navarro and others in the Trump administration to testify and provide docs voluntarily. They knew that if they came forward voluntarily Trump would call them “traitors” and would seek revenge. When the Mafia underlings agree to testify about the crimes of the “Don” they know they do so at their own peril. So I stand by my statement. You remind me of a school yard bully I often encountered when I was a kid. I confronted him one day in the school yard and called him out while he was trying to beat up a smaller kid. I said: “Stop that, you are a bully!” He got in my face and yelled: “Liar, Liar! You remind me of that kid.
Pelosi’s J6 Committee is a charade. She knows it. You know it. Soon, the country will know it.
DM
This is really trivial.
In November do you want Republicans acting as democrats are now ?
Congress is either limited to oversite and legislation or it is a self appointed law enforcement body – whatever you choose – that is what you will have in November.
The scope of congressional subpeonas is either narrow or broad – which do you want come november ?
Congress is bound by its own rules – or it is not. Which do you want come november ?
I can argue compellingly that The House has violated its own rules and is violating the constitution.
That shoudl matter, that should be all that matters.
But whatever it is you decide Congress is free to do – come november, Republicans will be doing.
Good points, JS
Were leg irons necessary? Or simply meant to extract full public humilation and dramatic effect from a selectively punitive prosection?
It would have been something to see Obama’s contemptuous lawbreaking AG Eric Holder be dragged off in handcuffs and leg irons. But alas….he was protected by executive privliege. Oh and black privilege. Funny how these things work. Always in one direction.
All that was necescary was to call his attorney and ask him to turn himself in for arraignment.
Or better yet – do not do this incredibly stupid thing that just makes you look bad.
What goes arround comes arround.
The odds are that 2025 brings either Preident Trump or President De Santis.
Neither has any qualms about publicly using the power of government to punish enemies,
And increasingly Republicans want blood.
In 2019 I (and Turley) begged and pleaded democrats not to go forward with stupid impeachments.
I think it is better than 5050 that Biden is impeached in 2023, two years ago I would have said that is WRONG.
In 2023 – who will care ? Besides I want to hear democrats hypocritically arguing against the very norms they have created.
Regardless, this is not a path to mutual destruction.
Democrats have gotten a few soundbites out of the J6 committee.
But nothing that would convince any but those who already beleive.
The J6 committee if it got everything it wanted – would prove that lots of republicans were really angry about the 2020 election and were prepared to do anything constitutional to “overturn the outcome”
That is not actually shocking even if there was no fraud.
The greater the evidence of fraud and lawlessness, the more people ask why wasn;t there an actual insurrection ?
Regardless, atleast fo rthe next couple of years – republicans have a brite future and democrats a dim one.
Biden inherited a country pulling at the leads, waiting to be unleashed. All he needed to do in 2021 was NOTHING and Trump would be remembered as a pariah a failure and Biden would be revered.
But those on the left “can not let a crisis go to waste”
I am personally shocked at the rapidity and extent to which Biden has screwed up.
And the worst is still to come. A recession is near certain. That is the only means we have to clear inflation.
When Trump’s approval was low – it took relentless media pressure to accomplish that and it was not long lasting.
Biden has tanked with the Media holding him up. As they turn on him – which ultimately they must slowly, he can never recover.
Worse still this mess is not a “Biden mess” – this mess is a DEMOCRAT mess. Outside of Manchin and suprisingly Senima democrats own this mess.
Democrats can not successfully run away from Biden in 2022. No one needs to tar them with Biden’s failures – because the failures are of more than a president, they are of a party.