Representative Adam Schiff (D-CA) went on CNN’s “Don Lemon Tonight” to tout the work of the House Select Committee investigating the Jan. 6th riot. In that interview, Schiff declared that the Committee has enough evidence showing former President Donald Trump “engaged in likely multiple criminal acts.” While vague on the specific crimes, Schiff emphasized that the Justice Department did not have to wait any further to launch a criminal investigation based on what has already been disclosed. While the Committee has disclosed new evidence in the form of videotapes and testimony, it has not presented new material evidence of criminal acts in my view. That could still come but the first two hearings largely focused on a “conspiracy” to challenge the election certification and allegations that Trump knew that there was no compelling evidence of widespread election fraud.
If there is evidence of criminal conduct by former president Trump or others, most of us would support the calls for prosecution. It is also possible that the Justice Department is investigating such crimes or has undisclosed evidence. The hearings, however, have not established such a foundation. That can still come but these crimes have elements that have not been addressed in hearings that have lacked any opposing views or adversarial elements.
The decision of Speaker Nancy Pelosi to abandon the long tradition of bipartisan members on such selection committee has robbed the investigation of credibility and legitimacy for many Americans.
Indeed, Schiff’s reference to evidence held by the Committee is likely to bring up memories of his highly controversial public statements that the House Intelligence Committee, which he chairs, had direct evidence of Russian collusion despite the countervailing findings of Special Counsel Robert Mueller. He never produced the evidence and later it was revealed that Justice officials and FBI agents had told his Committee that they did not find such evidence.
Now, Schiff is maintaining that:
“I certainly believe there’s enough evidence for them to open an investigation of several people, and so did Judge David Carter of California believes the former president and others were engaged in likely multiple criminal acts. So if the Justice Department concurs with Judge Carter, let alone my own view or others, they should be pursuing that. So, yes, I think there is sufficient evidence to open an investigation. It would be of you up to the Justice Department ultimately to decide does that evidence rise to proof beyond a reasonable doubt such that they’re comfortable indicting someone. But there’s certainly, in my view, enough evidence to open up investigations.”
The reference to the Carter opinion has become a mainstay on cable news. I was critical of Judge Carter’s opinion when it was released. Much of the Jan. 6th hearings seem to be structured along the same lines as the Carter decision which was, in my view, strikingly conclusory and unsupported in critical parts of the analysis.
Judge Carter simply declares that Trump knew that the election was not stolen and thus “the illegality of the plan was obvious.” Putting aside the court’s assumption of what Trump secretly concluded on the election, a sizable number of Americans still do not view Biden as legitimately elected. The court is not simply saying that they are wrong in that view but, because they are wrong, legislative challenges amounted to criminal obstruction of Congress.
In 2005, it was Democrats who alleged that a presidential election was stolen and challenged the certification in Congress of the votes in Ohio. The claim was equally frivolous but Democratic leadership praised the effort, including Speaker Nancy Pelosi who praised Sen. Barbara Boxer’s challenge and insisted that “this debate is fundamental to our democracy.”
The Democrats did not, however, demand that Vice President Dick Cheney refuse to certify, an important distinction to be sure. Jan. 6th was a desecration of our constitutional process and one of the most disgraceful days in our history.
However, the lack of factual foundation for the challenge (cited repeatedly by Judge Carter in the Trump challenge) did not make this a criminal or fraudulent effort.
Some attorneys believed (and still believe) that it was possible for Pence to refuse to certify. Holding such a legal view is not a crime and sharing that view with the White House is not a conspiracy. Indeed, Eastman and others were publicly stating essentially the same thing. That is what triggered the debate with many of us challenging their interpretation.
Yet, Carter is conclusory and dismissive on this critical point in declaring “President Trump and Dr. Eastman justified the plan with allegations of election fraud — but President Trump likely knew the justification was baseless, and therefore that the entire plan was unlawful.” Trump is still insisting that he believes the opposite. The question is why arguing that point with Pence and others amounted to a criminal act. In the end, wiser minds prevailed and the theory was not used by Pence.
There were crimes that day, of course. Some of those at the rally rioted and were charged largely with trespass and unlawful entry. A handful have been charged with seditious conspiracy. The court does not cite any evidence that Trump directly advocated violence while noting that Trump told the crowd to peacefully go to the Hill.
Consider the implications of Carter’s opinion. There was rioting when President Trump was elected while various Democratic leaders continued to claim that he was not the legitimately elected president, a view echoed by Hillary Clinton. While they did not riot in Congress, they committed other crimes.
Under Carter’s theory, the baseless claims that Trump was not legitimately elected could have been used by the Trump Administration to seize confidential legal material given to the 2005 leaders. After all, there was not a solid factual basis for these claims and they knew it. They further fueled the mob by making these claims in public.
The January 6th Committee spent much of the first two days hammering away at how many people, including Attorney General Bill Barr, told Trump that the fraud allegations were unfounded. That is important evidence to made part of the public record. However, we knew that such statements were made to President Trump, who continues to refuse to accept the overwhelming judgment of lawyers inside and outside of the White House.
That evidence amplifies the view that there was not a basis for these allegations. However, most of us reached that conclusion two years ago. The question is whether there is new evidence of criminal acts. After the riot, District of Columbia Attorney General Karl Racine announced that he was considering arresting Trump, Donald Trump Jr., Rudy Giuliani and U.S. Rep. Mo Brooks and charging them with incitement. So what happened to that prosecution?
The failure of Racine to charge Trump was not due to any affection or loyalty to the former president. It was due to the paucity of direct evidence of a crime that would hold up in court.
The reason is that the speech itself was not a crime. Indeed, it was protected free speech. They knew that a court would throw out such an indictment and, even if they could find a willing judge, any conviction would be thrown out on appeal.
In Brandenburg v. Ohio, the Supreme Court ruled in 1969 that even calling for violence is protected under the First Amendment unless there is a threat of “imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce such action.”
Schiff is suggesting that, if the Committee can prove that Trump really, really, really knew the election was lost, his reckless push against election certification would somehow become a crime. That is not, in my view, correct. We need to see direct evidence that Trump coordinated, facilitated, or materially supported the violence of Jan. 6th. Yet, on the opening day, the Democrats were again playing the same clip of Trump telling the Proud Boys to stand down in the presidential debate. That type of implied encouragement would fail as evidence in a criminal case.
Schiff also told Lemon:
“Our mission is to expose the facts to the public light about a plot to overturn a presidential election, the first non-peaceful transfer of power we’ve had in our history, and prescribe remedies, legislative remedies to protect our country going forward. The principal mission of the Justice Department is to bring people to justice who break the law. We can make a referral, but of course, the Justice Department doesn’t sit around waiting for referrals from us, at least, they haven’t in the past. I hope they’re not simply waiting for us now. It’s their duty to follow the evidence and, if there are credible allegations of crime, to pursue them against anyone, including former presidents.”
The question (not asked) is what new material evidence has been raised. Much of the new evidence reinforced the same (and widely accepted) claim that Trump was ignoring the advice of his own counsel and refusing to accept the weight of the evidence on the election fraud claims.
The Democrats have also suggested that there may have been fraud in collecting millions in contributions to challenge the election. Yet, in making the fraud allegation, the Democrats did not quote the specific language used by various groups in raising money. These pitches often come with reservations or conditional language from legal counsel that allow a broad use of such funds. Indeed, Democratic members have been accused of using such funds for personal benefits. This is a common issue with members of both parties, but their counsel often cited the general language used with donors in seeking contributions. None of those provisions were quoted by the House Committee despite the fact that the Democrats were aggregating multiple charities with different pitches to donors.
If there was fraud, it should be prosecuted. However, again, the Committee needs to do more than throw out the allegation of fraud without addressing the specific elements needed for the crime, including what language was specifically used by these different groups in collecting funds.
Schiff’s pitch on CNN for prosecution is reminiscent of the nightly claims made by legal experts of clear evidence of criminal collusion or other crimes that would soon be used to frog march Trump and his family to prison. There were breathless accounts of crimes ranging from treason to bribery to obstruction to espionage. It is easy to make such claims on a cable show. However, if Schiff believes that the Committee has evidence of “likely multiple” federal crimes, he should be able to lay out the evidence in these hearings. The hearings will resume on Thursday and that case is still be made.
I’m sure it’s right alongside the evidence he promised he had that Trump colluded with Russia. No ones been able to get far enough up his backside to find any of it.
Layer upon layer upon layer of obfuscation, invention and outright lies cannot hide the fact that this is simply the latest carnival sideshow in an ongoing campaign to hide years of corruption and malfeasance in high places, most of it connected to the abject failure of Hilary Clinton’s bid to become President in 2016, and the unpalatable reversal this caused to the plans of globalists and warmongers then and now. I would prefer to see a proper investigation into the mysterious death of Seth Rich, including the why and whereabouts of his confiscated laptop! We are not who you suppose us to be, and we do not forget!
“One can fool some men, or fool all men in some places and times, but one cannot fool all men in all places and ages.” – Jacques Abbadie
Schiff know there is no consequence for lying to the American people. So, he will do so as often as he wishes.
This just in:
“New Mexico county gives Trump-inspired fascism a test run”
https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/reidout-blog/new-mexico-otero-county-commission-primary-certification-rcna33691
“On Tuesday, New Mexico Secretary of State Maggie Toulouse Oliver, a Democrat, sued the three-member Otero County Board of Commissioners, where officials armed with right-wing conspiracy theories have refused to certify the county’s primary election results. The suit asks the state Supreme Court to compel the commission, led entirely by Republicans in a largely conservative county, to certify the votes.”
“the commission has honed in on a familiar scapegoat in machines provided by Dominion Voting Systems, the election technology company Trump and his inner circle have falsely accused of aiding in election fraud.”
“UPDATE (June 15, 2022 7:02 p.m. ET): This story has been updated to reflect the New Mexico Supreme Court’s ruling on Wednesday ordering the Otero County Board of Commissioners to certify the June 7 primary election results by June 17.”
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A not-unexpected effect of Trump’s poisoning the minds of Trumpists with conspiracy theories accusing Dominion voting machines of not being secure. This is precisely why Dominion and Smartmatic are suing Fox for broadcasting these baseless conspiracy theories and recklessly defaming them in so doing.
I very much doubt Turley will mention this travesty since he self-censors any news about these defamation lawsuits against his employer. It’s humiliating for him.
The way JS grabs things together demonstrate he is a nutcase.
Professor,
I agree with the fundamentals of your post.
The bias of this panel and the fact that this is the third iteration of impeachment, gives the appearance that this is primarily a political move, in an election year, paid for by the working folks of this nation. Second verse, same as the first…”
Is it really a hearing? The panel controls the agenda, the timing, the narrative. The panel members have well documented bias against the former President. The Speaker of the House is clearly biased.
Timeshare salespeople furniture and car dealers employ similar psychological and human behavior tactics when the buyer enters their office and they control every aspect of the environment.
In the Preferred Practice Pattern of evidence based medicine, the lowest scores of reliability go to studies that show “high risk of confounding or bias.”
In other words, if the reader sees a low score and bias they must read the study with caution. That does not mean they will not learn something. Nor should they always believe a high score. Caveat Emptor!”
The same holds true in many aspects of business or government functions. The slightest appearance of conflict of interest must be disclosed, especially during an investigation.
This reminds me of the opening scene of Terminator 2 when tge Terminator is in the bar and the computer in his head is searching for matching clothes. “Bingo!” Match! Disregard the remaining possibilities (Satisfice)
If as much effort was expended in the now two impeachments, Muller Investigation, and this event were put into looking at government fraud, campaign finance, foreign money lobby, PACs and Super PACs, we would be shocked at how many of these politicians are on the take, all political parties.
So, here we are. Rank and file citizens are hurting and as usual many politicians are AWOL. The don’t seem to care about the masses unless it propagated their political agenda.
I filled up today and have been to the grocery store twice this week. It is not pretty out there. But the elites don’t care. They are rich. They can afford their luxurious lifestyle and can say, “Let them eat cake!”
“Is it really a hearing? The panel controls the agenda, the timing, the narrative. The panel members have well documented bias against the former President. The Speaker of the House is clearly biased.”
You could ask the same about the Benghazi hearings: “Is it really a hearing? The panel controls the agenda, the timing, the narrative. The panel members have well documented bias against [Clinton]. The Speaker of the House [at the time] is clearly biased.”
Yes, both are hearings. That members of Congress are biased does not mean that hearings aren’t hearings. Congressional committees always control the agenda, the timing, and the narrative of the hearings they choose to have. Can you name a committee that does NOT control the agenda, the timing, and the narrative in their hearings?
The big difference is the Republicans on the panel were chosen by Pelosi without being endorsed by Republican leadership. A committee hearing of such weight must include representatives of the opposition to ensure both sides are heard and have the opportunity to cross-examine witnesses from the Democrat side, and call witnesses to tesitfy in support of Donald Trump. There is no amount of baloney that will turn this kangaroo court into a legitimate inquiry into the events of January 6, 2021.
“The big difference is the Republicans on the panel were chosen by Pelosi without being endorsed by Republican leadership. ”
As I’ve pointed out multiple times, Pelosi was willing to seat the other 3 of McCarthy’s choices — Rodney Davis, Kelly Armstrong and Troy Nehls — and they’re not on the committee because McCarthy pulled their nominations. That’s McCarthy’s doing, not Pelosi’s.
More significantly, the House passed legislation to create an independent National Commission (analogous to the 9/11 Commission), but the Senate Republicans filibustered it. That Commission would have had 5 members chosen by the Democrats in both chambers and 5 members chosen by the Republicans in both chambers, with neither party having any veto at all over the members chosen by the other party. The Republicans could have chosen Jordan and Banks for that Commission if they’d wanted. The only reason the House Select Committee exists is because the Senate Republicans filibustered the National Commission to Investigate the January 6 Attack on the United States Capitol Complex Act. The membership of House Select Committees is always totally up to the Speaker, since the nation was founded.
Now ask yourself why the Republican leadership wouldn’t endorse Cheney and Kinzinger, even though they’re both clear conservatives — just look at their voting history — and Cheney had even been part of the Republican leadership. It’s solely because they’re not Trumpists. Ask yourself why the Sentate Republicans filibustered the creation of the National Commission. Most Republicans have been trying to undermine this investigation all along.
“As I’ve pointed out multiple times, Pelosi was willing to seat the other 3 of McCarthy’s choices “
You are lying and being deceptive. Would she permit Jim Jordan or Banks on the committee?
“Pelosi rejects Jordan, Banks for Jan. 6 committee”
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/564122-pelosi-rejects-jordan-banks-for-jan-6-committee/
How can anyone, even one who argues for the left believe Anonymous the Stupid? He proves himself deceptive and a liar all the time.
That’s because Jordan and Banks were not going to be honest and made it a point to obstruct rather than actually investigate.
Anonymous is correct. Republicans HADa couple of opportunities to put their chosen representatives, but republicans refused by filibustering the proposed commission. It’s republicans who are at fault for the situation they are in right now. They made the choice. Not Pelosi.
“That’s because Jordan and Banks were not going to be honest and made it a point to obstruct”
You need a dictionary again. Look up the word honest, and compare it to the phrase, a contrary opinion.
You are a never-ending bucket of idiocy.
The actions of the Senate have zero significance. You keep repeating it, it is still irrelevant.
Pelosi refused to seat the members chosen by the Ranking member. I have no idea if the speaker has traditionally seated some of the members from the ranking party. If it was not tradition, it is now.
Pelosi knew the committee would loose all credibility without Americas traditional adversarial form of justice. She calculated the media would bail her out by publishing every bit of meaningless drivel as the next threat to our structure of govt. Even a tour of the hallways of office buildings.
You keep denying it, but the Senate Republicans’ filibuster is absolutely relevant, because had they not filibustered the National Commission legislation, there would be a bicameral National Commission, not a House Select Committee.
Bengahzi and members picked by the ranking party, They were able to cross examine witnesses. The were allowed to call witnesses although the chairman had approval power.
Nobody claimed the Majority was running a scam, electioneering opperation
“Can you name a committee that does NOT control the agenda, the timing, and the narrative in their hearings?” Can you name a committee that is truly bipartisan, that is, with members appointed by each respective party? I’ll wait…
For standing committees, the members are “appointed by each respective party,” per the House rules. Standing committees are different than select committees.
More On Committee’s Renewed Interest In Loudermilk Tour
A man who toured the Capitol complex with a Republican lawmaker the day before the Jan. 6, 2021, attack later marched on the building while making threats against Speaker Nancy Pelosi and other prominent Democrats, the House committee investigating the attack said on Wednesday.
The panel released surveillance video of a tour of parts of the Capitol complex conducted by Representative Barry Loudermilk, Republican of Georgia, a day before the violence. During the tour — which lasted several hours, despite the complex being closed to the public at the time — he is seen with the group entering three different office buildings and approaching the entrances to tunnels leading to the Capitol.
The video that the committee released also featured footage apparently taken by a person who is marching toward the Capitol on Jan. 6, and can be heard saying, “There’s no escape, Pelosi, Schumer, Nadler. We’re coming for you.”
A committee aide said investigators had learned that the voice was that of the man seen in the surveillance footage of Mr. Loudermilk’s tour taking a photograph of a staircase in the Capitol complex.
Edited From:
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/15/us/politics/jan-6-loudermilk-tour.html
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This piece was a late update in Wednesday evening’s New York Times. It is more specific than an article from “Politico” posted here Wednesday afternoon.
Commenter Alan and The Blog Stooge furiously noted that Representative Loudermilk’s tour was investigated and cleared by Capitol Police.
However The Select Committee’s new interest in this matter concerns one particular man identified on Loudermilk’s tour. That same man was a participant in the January 6th demonstrations. On that day he made a home video near the Capitol in which he made menacing comments regarding Speaker Pelosi and Senate Leader Schumer.
More lies from Schiff!
On that day he made a home video near the Capitol in which he made menacing comments regarding Speaker Pelosi and Senate Leader Schumer.
Making a video, 1st amendment.
Menacing comments, first amendment
So the democrats are going to craft legislation restricting 1st amendment rights to speak and petition Congress for redress of greivences?
Nothing but more of the same from the partisan committee. it tooshall rot away. Tomorrows focus is supposed to be the about soliciting to raise campaign funds. Dems think that one performed will in focus groups.
“Making a video, 1st amendment. Menacing comments, first amendment”
Duh.
But they show that Loudermilk lied. Of course, you cannot admit that.
ATS, you are showing how you lie and deceive. What was Loudermilk’s lie? The Capitol Police have already confirmed nothing suspicious happened. He did not take them to the Capitol Building.
Meyer the Troll Liar, Loudermilk described everyone he took on a tour on the 5th as “a constituent family with young children” (when there were no young children on the tour), and he lied when he claimed “no place that the family went on the 5th was breached on the 6th, the family did not enter the Capitol grounds on the 6th.” The Capitol office buildings that were toured on the 5th were breached on the 6th, and one of the tour members entered the Capitol grounds on the 6th.
I never claimed that Loudermilk took them to the Capitol Building, no matter how many times you attempt to pretend otherwise. You are the one and only Anonymous the Stupid.
You say many things and then expand or contract what you meant to make sure you do not sound stupid. First, a lot of Republicans had tours, then just one. You said the Capitol but then expanded it to the Capitol complex. You said Loudermilk took people into the Capitol, but then retract that to say he went into buildings within the capitol complex (some 20 buildings, parks, Botanic Gardens, and even a power plant).
Now you provide snippets of things you think have tremendous meaning but lack the lack of context and meaning, makes your words impotent, much like you. Your argument is pretty shoddy. Tell us what actions directly connect the visitors to illegal activity. I do not think you can, but I will let you try and fail.
Your most direct statement is “one of the tour members entered the Capitol grounds on the 6th.” They were tourists. It would be more surprising if they were not on Capitol grounds. You keep building a house of cards that keeps getting blown down. LOL
Your sources and edits cannot be trusted. The NYT will make outlandish comments in its earlier paragraphs and then at a later paragraph provide a weak alternative view. That way you can copy and paste without the second part of the story.
If they knew who the man was, he would already have been arrested legally or illegally. The scoop is, someone looks similar to. That is not an identification. In any event if it were the same man he did nothing wrong. Once again garbage in garbage out. That is what this anonymous produces on a daily basis.
All the videos were reviewed and the police that are around the visitors are highly attuned to suspicious activities. How many people on this blog haven’t visited at least on sensitive site? I doubt that many. Most people take a lot of pictures. These people were probably no different.
Anomaly,
In addition to Meyer’s comments, I will add that there are elements to the NYT story that are simply not true. The Capital Builder was closed on Jan 5 but the House Office Buildings that were toured were open to the public on that day. Also, to the best of my knowledge the House Office Buildings were not breached on Jan 6.
You should know better by now than to believe the NYT but you just can’t help yourself, every time they place the football out there you take your best running start at it just like Charlie Brown and just like poor old Charlie, you are always left flailing at the end.
Ray, thank you for adding what I missed. The MSM concludes without the necessary fact.
Anonymous the Stupid is like the flailing Charlie Brown, but Charlie Brown is a more sympathetic creature. Anonymous the Stupid is a Stalinist who cares more about his ideology than people.
Here’s what inciting violence, and not inciting violence, looks like, apparently:
https://youtu.be/JpJdQXaIdRA
Adam Schiff said that he had proof in writing that Trump colluded with the Russians. He never produced what he said he had. Now he says there is proof that Trump committed a crime. He didn’t have any evidence then and he doesn’t have any evidence now. Once again we will find that Mr. Schiff will fail the put up or shut up test. I wonder if slimeballness is inherited. Science should look into it. Someone in the Democratic party should tell him he’s not helping the cause. He could make a fortune giving slither lessons.
TiT,
One thing we do know: Turley has never demeaned Schiff as “a carnival snake charmer” as he did Trump.
“Turley has never”
retard
Turley agrees with me about that. He has never said different.
In that case, Turley also agrees that you’re a retard yourself.
Because Schiff is not a carnival snake charmer. Schiff is a liar.
The last honest liberal in America. Kudos, Dersh:
https://rumble.com/v18jgub-is-2000-mules-bull.html
Mespo,
I watched Dersh until he said that “2000 Mules” was “utterly unpersuasive.” That’s when I heard enough. The fact that it was utterly unpersuasive is the reason Barr laughed outloud when he mentioned the film. And it accounts for the fact that Turley has not breathed a word of it.
Only Trumpists believe such nonsense. Good luck.
“2000 Mules” was “utterly unpersuasive.” That’s when I heard enough.
You skipped over the part where Dersh, said we should ignore all of the Jan 6 committee?
Mr. Attorney, as usual you are utterly wrong. 2000 Mules is evidence, but not proof. All the links need to be tied together to prove that Trump won. That is not the contention. The contention is that there was fraud on a large scale, and it appears (not proven, Mr. attorney) that Biden lost. You are an extremely superficial person that would apply to a person who never graduated high school. The Big Lie is that this was the election was the most secure from fraud.
S. Meyer is again making nonsense as usual.
“ Mr. Attorney, as usual you are utterly wrong. 2000 Mules is evidence, but not proof.”
“Evidence” and “proof” are synonymous.
He’s essentially saying 2000 mules is proof, but not proof.
None of those “links” is worth any real evidence.
“ True the Vote attempted to corroborate its premise with surveillance video of drop boxes obtained from public sources, which the group contends provides visual proof of the conspiracy. But notably, none of the video footage used in the movie shows any individual depositing ballots at multiple drop boxes — a shortcoming D’Souza attributes to the fact that many jurisdictions did not capture surveillance video of drop boxes as required by law, or that in many cases the video was too grainy to definitively identify people.”
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/evidence-gaps-in-2000-mules/ar-AAYktC7
Obviously 2000 mules is a sad farce of an attempt to “prove” something that still has no proof. Even S. Meyer admits it.
Once again ignorance plays you for the fool.
Merriam Webster
Proof:
1a : the cogency of evidence that compels acceptance by the mind of a truth or a fact
Evidence:
1a : an outward sign : INDICATION
b : something that furnishes proof : TESTIMONY
You must make your mother very proud.
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Did you see Mules 2000? No.
Did you use a dictionary? No.
I rest my case. Svelaz fails in virtually every argument.
There comes a time when irresponsible declarative statements by members of Congress such as one Adam Schiff need to be revealed as truthful or untruthful. In Schiff’s case, he’s made many unsupported statements he claims are truthful and supported by ‘evidence’ but has yet to provide ANY evidence at all. It would be interesting to see how Schiff would fare under enhanced interrogation techniques.
Richard Lowe says:
“It would be interesting to see how Schiff would fare under enhanced interrogation techniques.”
It will be interesting to see how Trump will fare under oath. His time is coming.
“New York high court nixes Trump appeal, clears way for deposition”
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ny-high-court-nixes-trump-appeal-clearing-way-for-testimony/
Trump has been attacked by your kind on many occasions. He held up very nicely despite the fact that government prosecutors have the tendency to be overzealous and believe they have the right to win at any cost. That cost includes the right to break the law.
Jeff, you are a lawyer so this video will interest you and show you how badly federal prosecutors can act. Donald Trump went through something similar done to Howard Root.
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Howard Root is one of the only persons who ever won a case of this nature. It cost millions of dollars and demonstrated how the government prosecutors intimidated people into testifying against Root and how Root won.
Jonathan: You must be beside yourself. George Washington University, where you teach law, just announced it’s going to drop the “Colonials” moniker it’s had since 1926. A University committee determined the “Colonials” term has referred to “those who lived in the American colonies, especially those who fought for independence and democracy” while opponents of the term say it refers to “colonizers who stole land and resources from indigenous groups, killed or exiled Native peoples and introduced slavery into the colonies”. Apparently, the opponents won the day. No doubt the University did not first consult with you over their decision. See what happens when you spend so much time commenting on Fox? You should have been back on campus tending to important business!
But back to the Jan. 6 hearings. We now know that Kimberly Guilfoyle, Don Jr’s girlfriend, was paid $60,000 for a 21/2 minute speech during the rally preceding the Capitol insurrection. This was apparently money that came from Trump’s “Official Election Defense Fund” that was supposed to be used for legal challenges to the 2020 election. I have seen some tweets by those who donated hard earned dollars to the fund. They are not happy that their money was used for such a purpose. But, hey, they should have expected this from the No 1 grifter in the country.
The daily leaking of “new” atrocities continue, as the old leaks rot like bananas. This will continue unabated. None will be of any consequence, all will rot away. But the leaks not having any substance will never be talked about. Just the shear number of accusations is the goal. This is the nature of the dog and pony show, AKA the Jan 6 committee
Just like the Mueller sham. Shear number of accusation carry the day. A too large swath of people only know the accusations about Trump collusion with Russia, but don’t know, all of it was fabricated by the Clinton campaign and swore to by the FBI. But total false, non the less.
Iowan says:
“This is the nature of the dog and pony show, AKA the Jan 6 committee”
Turley disagrees with you, not suprisingly. He supports this committee because he has said that he is in favor of more transparency. He has not said one word to oppose anything that Barr has testified- unlike lying Trumpists who are vilifying him, e.g., Steve Bannon:
“Bannon threatens former AG Barr: We’re coming for you bro”
https://www.cnn.com/videos/media/2022/06/15/steve-bannon-bill-barr-january-6-hearing-testimony-ip-vpx.cnn
If Turley disagreed with Barr’s damning accusations about Trump’s honesty and sanity, he would have said so.
he would have said so.
retard
Jeff,
Turley clearly believes that you are a retard. If Turley disagreed with Iowan2’s damning accusation that you are a retard, he would have said so.
First let’s recognize the old ‘truth’ that ‘a lie repeated often enough tends to become a truth..’ This is what these committee members are doing by giving a flood of interviews on National TV in the middle of a Hearing. Their lies – and for Schiff this is just an ongoing continuation of the lies he promoted re: the Steele Dossier – Russia Bank Affair,’ etc. – are simply that …lies.. because they believe the end justifies the means…i.e., their m.o. is ‘we are sitting in a position of power so the dumb sheep (‘the people’) will believe us so let’s go for it.. let’s block Trump from being in office because his ideas do not resonate with ‘the swamp… where we can cash in on our power. Note Pres. Trump never took a salary for being President. ..and because the National Media hardly ever reported on what he was doing… understanding the good he did for the USA can be challenging (although we got some of it from the GOP Convention… It is indeed horrible that the Radical (Left & Right) destructive elements infiltrated the peaceful march, indeed were already up at the Capitol before the march began.. Further,, it is ridiculous that Pence never bothered talking to Trump about all of this… from his speeches, Trump assumed that they were on the same page re: sending the Electors back to their States to research the results.. But the point is that this was a ‘riot,’ Not an ‘insurrection..’ being led by the comical painted guy with the horns…there was no army or armed forces involved. However, there were Capitol police opening doors for and taking selfies with the crowd….But Schiff does not want us to know the Whole Picture….’ WHY hasn’t anyone investigated why Dr. Fauci secretly sent reportedly $Billions to the Wuhan Lab to create COVID, while he allegedly owns some of the Patents for the jabs? And what about the $Millions we paid for the vaccines that were thrown away…? I’ll end here, but, before anyone starts insulting me with ‘Trumpster’ BS.. I voted for Hillary in 2016. I simply like Truth.
Well said.
Eighteenthhole,
Tomorrow will be another rough day for lying Trumpists when Conservative stalwart Michael Luttig testifies against John Eastman and Trump.
Turley has previously indicated:
“I have tremendous respect for many on the other side of this debate including former Judge Michael Luttig, who just penned a thoughtful column in the Washington Post arguing against such self-pardons.”
https://jonathanturley.org/2020/12/08/self-pardons-a-response-to-judge-michael-luttig/comment-page-1/#comments
Turley may disagree with Luttig’s opinion, but unlike a Trumpist, he will not vilify him, call him a RINO or otherwise attack his integrity.
Are you capable of a post in which you are even clear about what you are talking about ?
The Eastman issue is dead. It has been dead for a long time.
Flogging a dead cow is not getting you anywhere.
I do not know where you think this self pardon’s issue comes from.
But it is irrelevant.
Self Pardon’s are politically reprehensible, but they are perfectly constitutional.
Regardless, there were no self pardon’s.
Aparently you think they were discussed – so what ?
Pardoning Snowden and Assange were discussed and ultimate dropped specifically because of the idiotic Faux impeachment II.
Trump should have pardoned far more people.
Hey Dennis McIntyre, Bill Clinton was paid $500,000 dollars for a speech he made in Russia. Are you outraged or will you kiss his ring?
DennisMcIntyre. How can you get things wrong so often. From the Washington Post. Two sources told The Washington Post that her money came from Turning Point Action. The sponsoring donor for that money was Julie Fancelli, daughter of Publix’s founder, The Post reported. The money did not come from the Trump defense fund. You should travel to the land where the facts matter.
mespo727272 is the voice of the Kremlin.
DB:
…and the Vatican, Klan, AFL-CIO, ACLU, Pol Pot, Fidel Castro, SPCA, Benevolent and Protective Order of Elks and Santa Claus. I’m a mouth for hire. Deal with it.
The Vatican pays you!
Shocking, simply shocking!
David thank you for another Russian conspiracy hoax concerning mespo727272. You must have learned your technique from Hillary. We appreciate that you set obediently at her feet. She would be proud that you learned your lesson well. After all, she has earned the nations highest sheep herding award.
Who is Hillary? Your sheep dog?
At least 23 pro-life organizations have reportedly been vandalized in recent weeks.
The pro-life organizations have been either firebombed or vandalized by radical pro-abortion activists, according to Catholic Vote:
Hollywood, FL — South Broward Pregnancy Center and Archdiocese of Miami Respect Life Ministry
Asheville, NC — Mountain Area Pregnancy Services
Manassas, VA — First Care Women’s Health
Alexandria, VA — Concerned Women for America
Reiserstown, MD — Alpha Pregnancy Center
Frederick, MD — BirthRight of Frederick
Frederick, MD — CareNet Frederick
Reiserstown, MD — Alpha Pregnancy Center
Buffalo, NY — CompassCare Pregnancy Services
Madison, WI — Wisconsin Family Action
Des Moines, IA — Agape Pregnancy Resource Center
Denton, TX — Woman to Woman Pregnancy Resource Center
Austin, TX — Trotter House
Long Beach, CA — His Nesting Place Home for Mothers & Children
Sebastopol, CA — Pregnancy Center Billboard
Eugene, OR — Dove Medical Clinic
Keizer, OR — Oregon Right to Life
Gresham, OR — Gresham Pregnancy Resource Center
Portland, OR — Southeast Portland Pregnancy Resource Center
Vancouver, WA — Options360 Women’s Clinic
Federal Way, WA — Care Net Pregnancy and Family Services of Puget Sound
Lynnwood, WA — Next Step Pregnancy Services
The attacks follow a leaked Supreme Court decision that revealed Roe v. Wade may be overturned this month. If overturned, abortion would no longer be protected by the federal government but would still be legal in many states.
Though President Biden campaigned on unity, Biden has not condemned a single one of the attacks, the RNC reported on Monday.
Many of the attacks have been brutal and vulgar in nature. “If abortions aren’t safe then you aren’t either,” vandals wrote on a Wisconsin Family Action facility.
In Oregon, Gresham Pregnancy Resource Center was reportedly firebombed on Saturday. Images show a burned-out shell inside the center’s facility, according to Life News.
The attack followed firebombings of pro-life groups and pregnancy centers in Wisconsin, Oregon, and New York.
The rise of far-left extremism comes after Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) and Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot (D) used violent rhetoric against those who hold dissenting political views. Lightfoot called the “LGBTQ+ community… to arms.”
Schumer stated that Justices Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh will “pay the price” for overturning Roe v. Wade. “You won’t know what hit you if you go forward with these awful decisions,” he said.
Breibart
Since March 16, 51 stories have broken in relation to Hunter Biden’s laptop:
“Hunter Biden: My Dad ‘Thinks I’m a God’”
“Report: Hunter Says Joe Biden Is Politically Influenced by ‘Anything That I Want’”
“Report: Hunter Biden Paid Mother of Child, Stripper from His Law Firm”
“Report: Hunter Biden’s Attorney Assured Him NYT Would Not Link Joe Biden to Family Corruption”
“Report: Hunter’s Las Vegas Call Girl Won $20K PPP Check as a ‘Female Owned Sole Proprietorship’”
“Report: Hunter Biden Recklessly Handles Firearm with Prostitute in the Nude, Photos Show”
“James Biden: ‘Offensive’ to Be Called Family ‘Fixer’ as Joe Biden Dubbed”
“Report: Hunter Biden Utilized Burner Phone Apps from 2014 to 2018”
“Report: Hunter Biden’s Lawyer Flew to Serbia, Infiltrated, Spied on ‘My Son Hunter’ Movie Set”
“NYT Report: Hunter Biden Tries to Settle Justice Department Probe into Tax Fraud, Money Laundering”
“Report: Hunter Biden Hires Hollywood Attorney for Legal Work, Financial Backing”
“Hunter’s Laptop Repairman Sues CNN, Politico, Daily Beast, Adam Schiff for Defamation”
“Secretary Mayorkas Had No Idea Biden’s ‘Disinformation’ Czar Suggested Hunter’s Laptop Was Russian Disinformation”
“7 Times Joe Biden Deflected, Denied Involvement in Corrupt Family Business”
“15 House Republicans Demand Answers from Hunter’s Business Partner About Role in Joe Biden’s Finances”
“Rep. Darrell Issa: Hunter’s Laptop Calls for Probe into Biden Family for ‘Selling of Access’ to Foreign Interests”
“Report: Hunter Biden Business Partner Visited White House 8 More Times”
“Joe Biden’s Attorney General Promises to Not Interfere in Hunter Biden Probe”
“Poll: Majority Say Joe Biden Involved in Hunter’s Corruption, Impeachable Offense”
“Report: Joe Biden Met with Hunter Biden’s Business Partner at White House”
“‘Magnet for Conspiracy Theories’: Hunter’s Investment Firm Entry Censored from Wikipedia”
“Trump-Appointed Prosecutor David Weiss Weighs Hunter Biden Indictment”
“Fmr. Clinton Adviser: Corrupt Biden Family Business Could Destroy Democrats in Midterms”
“11 Times Joe Biden Was Involved in Family’s Corrupt Business Dealings”
“‘Popular Right Wing Narrative’: Brian Stelter Denies He Purveyed Hunter’s Laptop as ‘Russian Disinformation’”
“Report: U.S. Banks Flagged Over 150 Suspicious Financial Transactions from Biden Family”
“Republicans Strategize Hunter Biden Probe After Midterms: ‘He’s a National Security Threat’”
“Report: Hunter Biden Grand Jury Witness Was Asked About the ‘Big Guy’”
“Hunter Biden’s Malibu Home: Private Road, Spectacular Views”
“White House Ignores Calls for a Special Counsel Investigation of Hunter Biden”
“Hunter Biden’s Depicted Family Payout Mechanism Further Proved in Ron Klain’s 2012 Email”
“Report: Ron Klain Emailed Hunter Biden About ‘Unpleasant Business’ of Raising Money for Vice President”
“Establishment Media Ignore Alleged Payouts to Biden Family, Detailed in Hunter’s Texts”
“Ron Klain: Joe Biden Is ‘Confident’ Hunter Biden Didn’t Break the Law”
“White House Refuses to Rule out Joe Biden Pardon for Hunter Biden”
“White House Stands by False Joe Biden Debate Claim that Hunter Did Not Make Money from China”
“House Judiciary Republicans Investigating Facebook and Twitter for Suppressing Hunter Biden Laptop News”
“WaPo Admits Hunter Profited $4.8M from Chinese Energy Deal”
“WaPo Admits Hunter’s Laptop Holds ‘Authentic Communications that Can Be Verified’”
“CNN Admits Hunter Biden’s Laptop Is Authentic 532 Days After Initial Reporting”
“Matt Gaetz Introduces Resolution to Strip Security Clearances from Intel Officials Who Misled About Hunter’s Laptop”
“GOP Senators Reveal $100K Direct Payment From Chinese Energy Company to Hunter Biden”
“Exclusive: Rep. Darrell Issa Hits Twelve Individuals Involved in ‘Laptop From Hell’ Election Interference with Document Preservation Notices”
“Brian Stelter Spends Exactly 0 Seconds on Media’s False Claims that Hunter Biden’s Laptop Emails Were ‘Russian Disinformation’”
“Exclusive– Meltdown: CNN’s Brian Stelter Refuses to Walk Back His False Claims Hunter Biden’s Laptop Emails Were ‘Russian Disinformation’”
“Donald Trump Responds to New York Times’ Admission on Hunter Biden Emails”
“Media Fail to Retract ‘Russian Disinformation’ Claim About Hunter’s Laptop”
“McCarthy: House GOP Agenda Will Include Probe of Media, Tech on Hunter Laptop Story”
“NewsGuard Ultimate Fake News Humiliation: ‘Fact-Checking’ Org’s Co-Founder Called Hunter Biden’s Laptop a ‘Hoax’”
“Jen Psaki Refuses to Confirm Authenticity of Hunter Biden Laptop”
“Report: Hunter Biden Paid IRS $1M in 2021, Attempting to Evade Conviction or Long Sentence”
Breitbart
As long as there is evil somewhere in the world, there should always be war. There will be peace when all of the evil in the world has been obliterated.
The weapons of war have changed. There’s a war on for your mind. Alex Jones was right. It’s going on right now with the Great Reset/Build Back Better/Plandemic agenda. This is geopolitical and includes all of the G20 countries….this is not just United States. Joe Biden and his entire regime are captured by the WEF/BBB UN agenda — it is the very evil you mention. We are at war. Pay attention.
Looks like Adam Schiff has his sights set on becoming speaker after Nancy steps down. God save America if that nightmare happens.
We all know how pencil-necked, lying ADAM SCHIFF-HEAD can flat out LIE. He wouldn’t know the TRUTH if it bit him on his arse!!
Jonathan: Apparently you watched different Jan. 6 hearings–not the ones I watched. On Fox two days ago you got another 15″ of fame by claiming Trump may be a “terrible person” but so far there is no evidence he committed any crimes. This post echoes your comments on Fox. I have a different take.
The first two hearings have clearly shown Trump knew he had lost the 2020 election. Yet Trump persisted in the “Big Lie”. Why? Because it presented an opportunity to raise a lot of money from his gullible supporters. In the weeks after the election he sent out millions of solicitation emails to his supporters to donate to the “Official Election Defense Fund” that took in $250 million. The “Fund” does not exist. It was fake! Instead of using the money to pursue claims of “election fraud” a lot of the money was diverted to Trump’s political cronies. Almost $500 thousand went to something called the “Trump Hotel Collection”. If Trump really believed in his “election fraud” claims he could have requested state-wide recounts in the key states of Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin. But that would have required “Fund” money–up to $20 million for the recounts. Trump took a pass. He wanted the money for other purposes unrelated to fighting the election results. He wanted to line his pockets. A number of former federal prosecutors have said Trump could be prosecuted for wire and mail fraud.
You may recall evangelical leader Jim Bakker was convicted in 1998 on 24 criminal counts–8 counts of mail fraud, 15 counts of wire fraud and 1 count of conspiracy. Bakker sold $1,000 “lifetime memberships” that entitled his followers to an annual 3-day night stay at a luxury hotel. Tens of thousands of memberships were sold but only one 500 room hotel was ever built. If Bakker why not Trump?
Trump is continuing his fundraising schemes. He turned 76 yesterday. In emails to supporters Don Jr. asked his father’s supporters to sign Trump’s “official” B-day card–but only if well-wishers donated at least $1. Don Jr. told donors: “”HURRY–there is not much time left. I can only save your spot for 20 MINUTES”. If every loyal Trump supporter sends in just $1 that’s a sizable haul! Back in February Trump told his supporters that for a donation he would bestow the title of “Great MAGA King Status”. Who wouldn’t want to be “King” for a day? Ruth Ben-Ghiat, a historian at NY University and expert on authoritarian leaders, said that Trump has been “extremely disciplined in grifting and in trying to use the presidency to make money”. And, I might add, a lot of money!
In your analysis you forget one important thing. The Jan. 6 Committee has no prosecutorial powers. It does not have to lay out all the “specific elements” (your words) of each crime Trump has committed. That’s the job of the DOJ if they decide to prosecute Trump. But your job on Fox is to obfuscate and you are doing it quite well!
Dennis suffers from penls envy. According to Sigmund Freud’s theory, penls envy will typically start with feelings of envy and wanting to experience the advantages of having a penls. Dennis wishes he knew how to quit Professor Turley
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+1000
You’re projecting.
Pssst Dennis, nobody reads your drivel. Least of all, JT. Keep ranting and raving at the moon!
Psst Mespo727272: How would you know my comments are “drivel”–unless you actually read them? And “Anonymous” (the sane one) gave a “+1000”–he’s not exactly “nobody”!
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I used to read them but they were all diatribes directed at JT.
Actually mespo727272, is not wrong.
As with all the Anonymous, when I see Dennis McIntyre, I scroll right past.
And I fully expect Anonymous to call me a stooge and that I and mespo727272 are one in the same person.
I would say “I can assure you, we are two different people/commenters,” but I know that exercise in futility as they will not believe me anyways.
Seems to be the new leftist shtick. “You are a stooge and you are the same person!”
Seems to be prevalent as of late.
Well if you really are the smart fellow you perceive yourself to be, why not take a chance and tune into the Jan 6th Committee hearings to see and hear for yourself what they’ve uncovered, instead of relying on Hannity, Ingraham, Levin and Tucker to put their spin on the hearings? 20 million of your fellow Americans have done so. It’s really hard for Fox to argue bias when the witnesses are all Trump insiders, including his own daughter, Ivanka, and they all said that Biden won and Trump KNEW it before he started lying about a stolen election. So, Fox tells the faithful not to listen because it’s all lies and the process is rigged. When the witnesses are all Trump insiders who were there on Election night, the only way to keep the spin going is to convince you what the process is rigged. A select committee doesnt’ have to be bipartisan–the Benghazi commttee that went after Hillary Clinton wasn’t, but there are 2 Republicans on this committee. McCarthy withdrew all 5 nominees when Jim Banks and Jim Jordan were refused as choices due to their blind loyalty to Trump and manifest unreasonableness. Jordan was directly involved with Jan 6th, too. But, that’s not the spin Turley has put on the process, which is part of his Fox assignment.
Natacha,
Not sure if you are directing that at me or not (sometimes it is hard to tell), but if you are, as I have commented on this blog more than a few times previously, I “cut the cord” back in 08′ before it was common lexicon.
I can honestly say I have never watched Hannity, Ingrahman, or Levin.
I have watched Tucker twice.
Once on a bit on NPR (YT vid) which was accurate, as I used (past tense) listen to NPR everyday. Then 2016 happened and they went all CNN panel-O-pundits activism. Journalist Matt Taibbi wrote an article that was similar in Tuckers observation of rampant wokeism in NPR reporting. I still will tune into NPR occasionally, but do take my anti nausea pills prior too.
The other time, a friend forward the YT vid, I think I watched it, but as I cannot recall what it was about, must not of been that important. or made that much of an impression on me.
So, no, I have no idea what Fox news is reporting. Or any other of the MSM news outlets.
I make a point of not watching MSM, to include Fox, but read. And I read from alt-media like Matt Taibbi, Bari Weiss, Glenn Greenwald, Charles H. Smith, Sharyl Attkisson and others on SubStack. And of course, Professor Turley.
I find their comments and reporting to be much more accurate and objective than anything produced on MSM. Or ‘produced’ by the Jan 6th committee. Really, I have been to more than a few 3rd world countries to recognize a stacked deck when I see one. By this one example, America looks more like a banana republic every day they continue their so-called investigation.
Finally, as I noted elsewhere, Americans are concerned about real problems that impact them daily. Rising food prices (I am concerned), rising fuel prices (I am concerned), purchasing power eroding (I am concerned), crime (okay, not me but people in major cities, not lost on me minorities and women have been a 40% up of sale of firearms, mostly handguns).
Those are real issues Americans are facing today.
And it is likely to get worse, as more than a few indicators of a Recession is upon us or already here. The Atlanta Fed cut the second QT GDP to 0. That is right, ZERO. That, technically, puts us into a Recession. Thing is, this go around, it is possible that we will have both a Recession and Inflation (even Hyper-inflation?) at the same time. Who gives a crap what happened on Jan6th when the price of a gallon of gas is $10 or more. Cost of a loaf of bread, $20. Read an article the other day of the possibility of $1 an egg. That same day, I gave away 3 dozen eggs to neighbors who are on fixed incomes.
That is real issues Americans are having.
Not what happened on Jan6.
If your comment was not aimed at me, by all means, disregard.
Have a nice day.
You want to take a bet on whether JT reads the comments? The people at Fox also probably read them to determine the extent to which the spin on the truth is penetrating. I notice that whever someone like Dennis or myself provides FACTUAL information, we get accused of being mentally ill because the FACTS make clear what a crook Trump has always been and always will be. People who refuse to listen to facts and who blindly accept Trump’s word that he had a “landslide victory” that was “stolen by a rigged election” are the ones ranting and raving. Everything Dennis said is based on FACTS. Trump has been fundraising on his election loss, claiming that the money, all solilcited from small-dollar donors, would go towards litigation expenses to fight the “steal”, which was a lie. It went to a fund which is fake because no such fund exists. Part of it went to his hotels, part went to pay to stage the speech at the Elipse on Jan 6th–something like $5 million. The committee has explained all of this. Follow the money is the best way to track down what a crook is doing, and the Committee has done a good job of this. According to Professor Laurence Tribe of Harvard Law School, soliciting money for a fake organization on the grounds that it would be used for litigation expenses and then applying the proceeds to other uses is wire and/or mail fraud, which are federal crimes. Trump sent out not less than 25 solicitations for money on Jan. 6th alone.
“I witnessed one of the highest profile shootings in American history and I wasn’t even interviewed.
Why is the @January6thCmte so scared to accept my testimony and video from the day? ~Tayler Hansen 🇺🇸
@TaylerUSA Jun 13
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“Great question!
And when I arrived on the East side of the building a man was shouting, “They’ve opened the doors! They’re letting us in!” He was referring to the 20K lb. magnetic Columbus doors which can only be opened by deactivating a code. Who opened the Columbus doors?” ~@BrandonStraka
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“The @January6thCmte is one of the biggest scams in political history.
The DOJ/Committee has never reached out to me because they are aren’t interested in the truth.” ~Tayler Hansen
Have any of these key questions been answered by Pelosi’s sham committee? Anyone know?
…WHAT A TALE OF DECEPTION YOU WEAVE… THIS NEW ‘BS’ THAT TRUMP KNEW HE LOST IS PURE MSNBC POPPYCOCK, JUST LIKE THE STEELE DOSSIER & RUSSIA BANK, ETC……. THE MAN STILL TO THIS DAY BELIEVES HE WON …………………..AND SO DO A LOT OF OTHERS……….
You know what would make this site even better…if we could try to somehow convince JeffSilberman to comment more and get Anonymous the Idiot to be even more argumentative.
HB:
I’ve got a petition going for just that. I’m guessing Jeff’s clients will sign on right away!
Is ATI the same as ATS?
It is truly amazing how much the dims fear Donald Trump.
No one “fears” that sloppy fat pig. What is worrisome is the gullibility of his disciples who continue to believe his lies even when his own daughter and all the members of his inner circle, except one drunk who has since had his law license suspended, testify under oath that he KNEW he lost, but due to his massive ego, decided to lie about it and try to bully Congress and Secretaries of State to reject valid votes in a free and fair election. You have to have to be suffering from a serious level of delusion to continue believing the Big Lie in the face of the massive amount of evidence proving not only that it is false but that he KNOWS it’s false. More importantly, it is seriously concerning that so many people continue to support someone who is the antithesis of democracy. Trump could not care less about what the American people want, what is best for American, he literally has no leadership abilities, and his entire life revolves around feeding that massive ego. Also worrisome is the fact that he was an atrocious president: he allowed the pandemic to rage out of control because it made him look bad, so he chose to lie about it and down play the seriousness. causing it to be muich worse than it had to be. He started a trade war with China, resulting a shortage of computer chips. Businesses and schools had to close down for about 2 years, and kids are behind in their school work. Some businesses never reopened. He trashed the successful economy inherited from Obama and turned it into a recesstion with unemployment above 10%. His incomptence led to a record defict because he pushed tax cuts that mostly benefitted the very wealthy. Interest payments on the national debt and the shortage of consumer goods due to the shortage of computer chips, which drives up prices due to the law of supply and demand, are the main drivers of inflation, and these are directly the result of Trump’s incomptence. Then, there’s the insurrection he called for when he couldn’t litigate or bully his way past the fact that he lost the election. He still won’t shut up or go away. His ego won’t let h im.
It is truly amazing that any substantial number of people could support this fat, lying loser.
Lol you mean like how trump and the russians stole the election from hillary clinton? Democrats are crying about something they do on the reg lolololol
Hillary won the popular vote. Trump’s campaign colluded with Russian hackers to spread lies about Hillary on social media in key districts that could turn the Electoral College, and the scheme worked. This is based on hard evidence, which alt right media have conditioned disciples like you not to believe.. Trump had to cheat because polls predicted he would lose in 2016, just like they did in 2020..
Hillary won the popular vote.
And she has more pairs of shoes.
But only an idiot would think either fact is relevant to the discussion.
Natacha, you and Hilary and Nancy Pelosi would make a fine coven together.
Are you sure Nat ISN”T Hillary???
“Are you sure Nat ISN”T Hillary???”
Haha, good question Wen Bars!
Capitol Police Chief, Tom Manger has the facts
Police have determined there was nothing suspicious about a tour of two Capitol office buildings that a House Republican gave to about 15 people the day before Jan. 6, 2021, when rioting supporters of then-President Donald Trump attacked the Capitol.
https://www.kmov.com/2022/06/14/police-house-republicans-tour-capitol-before-jan-6-wasnt-suspicious/
Your comments are so full of hate that no one can take you seriously.
It’s truly amazing how the dims really fear Donald Trump.