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Ohio Man Arrested in Rape of Ten-Year-Old Child in Post-Dobbs Controversy

We have been discussing the controversy over a ten-year-old girl who was raped in Ohio and removed to Indiana because the Ohio abortion law would not allegedly allow for the termination of her pregnancy.  I wrote a couple columns on the glaring legal and factual questions in the case following a Washington Post investigation and an inquiry by the Ohio Attorney General that could not confirm any facts beyond an account of an Indiana doctor. The Columbus Dispatch reports that a man, Gerson Fuentes, has now been arrested in the case. He could face life imprisonment. I wanted to share that development and respond to those who wrongly claim that I called the allegation a “lie.”

Fuentes is going to be arraigned on Wednesday and is being held in a county jail on a $2 million bond.

After the arrest, I was contacted by readers who noted that the New York Post column originally referred to a possible “lie” and felt that I was calling this a hoax. That was certainly not my intention and my express words contradict that interpretation. What I have seen on the Internet notably omits my statements to the contrary in both the columns and on Twitter at the time of publication.

As I noted, I have two columns on the matter. Both stated that the case could be real, but that there were glaring legal and factual questions raised by Dr. Bernard’s account. The column looked at those questions in light of the Washington Post noting that “the only source cited for the anecdote was Bernard. She’s on the record, but there is no indication that the newspaper made other attempts to confirm her account.” I agreed with the Post that such a story should be confirmed beyond such an “anecdote.”

It also looked at these questions in light of the Ohio Attorney General saying that a search did not find such a case in their system. We have seen the media run with a number of stories without confirmation of key facts in major stories. The two columns isolated the facts that I considered to be the most important to confirm while recognizing that the story could be true even with these questions. Most of the columns addressed the ongoing risks to the child and the need for confirmation of the case and the welfare of the child.

The column expressly stated “None of this means that this did not occur. However, if it is true, there is a child rapist who is still at large. Alternatively, if this was a family member, a child may be living in the same house as her rapist.”

The thrust of the column was to discuss the legal and factual questions assuming that the case is true. Dr. Bernard’s explanation for the removal of the child from Ohio was not consistent with Ohio law. I also noted that the Washington Post sought additional details on the case but was unable to get any additional confirmation. The columns primarily addressed these unanswered legal questions on the meaning of the Ohio law and the need for a police report, particularly after the Ohio Attorney General said that he could find no such report. I said that both the Post and AG inquiries were curious because police reports are required in both states. While I said a police report may have been filed, there should be confirmation of that fact in the best interests of the child.

On the New York Post column, there was initially a headline referring to a “lie.” Authors do not write the headlines. The column was a shorter, edited version of the original column that I wrote. The mistake may have been due to an errant line inserted in editing that referred to a possible lie. I did not write that line and asked that it be removed, which it was before publication. When I saw that headline, I immediately tweeted at the time of publication that these questions do not mean that the case was not real.  I also noted on Twitter at the time of publication that we do not write the headlines to convey my disagreement:

“The headline aside (which is not written by an author), everything that Dr. Bernard said could well be true. However, even if true, these missing details are critical to understanding why this action was taken and whether the child is safe.”

I also wrote to my editor to ask that the headline referring to the “lie” be changed, which they did so.  The editors were immediately responsive to these requests and my concern that we should not make any such assumptions in light of the lack of confirming facts.

Both columns discuss the lack of effort to confirm the police report and the clear danger to this child if she was not afforded such protection. That was strikingly absent in coverage and I believed that these facts should have been confirmed, as the Post and the Attorney General had sought unsuccessfully to do.

Putting aside the ongoing question over the legal basis for the removal of the child, the column repeatedly called for a police report and the confirmation that the child was safe. It seemed to me that that should have been a priority in the coverage over the prior week

I still remain interested in understanding why, as claimed, the child had to be removed from Ohio. As I noted on the blog column, this may be due to confusion but the law seems clear to me.

As a legal analyst, I am often asked to address such controversies and, like the Washington Post, seek to confirm the underlying facts. This story was curious in that it was based entirely on one person’s account, which contained what I viewed incorrect statements about the underlying law. I cannot account for how these columns will be portrayed or interpreted, but that is the background to the columns.

 

225 thoughts on “Ohio Man Arrested in Rape of Ten-Year-Old Child in Post-Dobbs Controversy”

  2. This was a preventable crime that could have been stopped if the illegal, undocumented suspect had been prevented frrom illegally entering and remaining inside the United States! A 10 year old – raped repeatedly and forced to undergo an abortion!! Yet the democrats play this as though the most important thing to them was to allow abortions in Ohio, There us absolutely nothing so low and despicable that these insane democrats won’t do or say to force their psychotic ideology on us, including sacrificing our children.

  3. Sorry Jonathan, your stories were meant to call into question the authenticity of the rape. Sure you couched your words but the gist of your story was that perhaps this did not occur.

    You did the same with Trump and his responsibility for causing the riot at the capitol. Those arrested at the capitol explicitly said they were there because trump asked them to be there.

    Quit being an apologist for the Repo (oops, scratch that), Trump fascist party.

      1. Trump caused the riot on Jan. 6. He called people to DC on Jan. 6, he riled them up, he told them to march to the Capitol, he lied that he’d go with them, and they went. He knew that some had weapons, and he said that he didn’t care, because he believed that those weapons wouldn’t be directed at him. It was fine with him for his stans to take weapons to the Capitol to intimidate Congress and Pence, to interrupt the certification of the EC vote certification.

        Don’t take my word for it. Listen to what the rioters have said about it. For example, from Devlyn Thompson’s sentencing memo:
        “He did not go to the Capitol to overthrow the government. Rather, he believed former President Trump when Trump said … “And after this [speech], we’re going to walk down, and I’ll be there with you, we’re going to walk down, we’re going to walk down.” Trump says three times in that one sentence alone that he was going to be walking down [Pennsylvania Avenue] with the protestors, adding for emphasis that he will be there “with you.” Mr. Thompson literally believed this was what was going to happen, and of course it did not. … Mr. Thompson was bewildered there was no Trump at the Capitol when Trump said he would be “with you” (the protestors). … “In that moment, I thought I was going to watch a speech [at the Capitol], there was no speech. That fueled my anger. It became a lot harder to make good decisions.” … If he knew there was no security, no activity, why would he [Trump] send upset people? There was nothing to hold their attention. His actions were inconceivable. He created a lot of problems and he didn’t even go. The most underreported part of this is that there was supposed to be a speech at the Capitol.”
        https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/60054054/25/united-states-v-thompson/

        There are lots of examples like this in the statements of people charged with crimes on J6: they rioted because of what Trump said to them on J6 and in the run-up to J6. Deal with those facts.

        1. Anonymous,

          Give up. Mespo and his band of Trumpist liars will NEVER acknowledged these facts. Not unlike Birthers, they are dead-enders. They have to be marginalized by constant ridicule. Reason won’t work. And when Turley starts saying publicly what Barr and Cipollone have stated that there was NEVER any evidence of massive fraud, they will turn on Turley too. Mark my words.

          1. “Give up. Mespo and his band of Trumpist liars will NEVER acknowledged these facts.”
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            Always open to new information. Try proof instead of ridicule. If you do, you might not end up on that bridge parapet on some lonely night staring at the black water. Emerson said it best ““Nothing can bring you peace but yourself. Nothing can bring you peace but a triumph of principles.” Or is that too self-reliant American for you?

            1. Mespo,

              I am willing to argue with you. You should be flattered because I won’t with the vast majority of Trumpists here. In fact, I just invited you to respond to my argument in another post. Let’s see if you will answer me. Too often, you evade my questions.

                1. Did I get this right, sequentially?

                  What just happened here?

                  NUTCHACHACHA went “infra” on us, 4 hrs. after Mespo correctly employed “supra?”

                  Can somebody please ‘splain that to me?

                  Is that a soft variant of plagiarism?
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                  mespo727272 says:
                  July 13, 2022 at 8:34 AM

                  Aninny:

                  “Where is the law professor’s legal analysis?”
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                  Here let me guide you by the hand to the salient legal points discussed supra:
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                  Natacha says:
                  July 13, 2022 at 2:08 PM

                  The above link is to Joe Patrice’s excellent piece in “Above the Law”, criticizing Turley which I reference infra.
                  Reply

                  Natacha says:
                  July 13, 2022 at 5:21 PM

                  Svelaz posted first, so his post is first in time. I posted second (actually before I was aware of his post), so, sequentially, my post is “infra” to his time-wise, but not in the manner in which posts are displayed, which is reverse chronological order. In a legal brief, if you refer to a statute or case and provide a full citation, and then refer to it later, you put an abbreviated reference to it under the term “supra”. The reverse is true, so if, for example, in an opening summary in a brief, you might describe your argument, and then say “as detailed infra”, under the heading of the subject. Anything to criticize.

                    2. Mespo, Esquire.

                      You gotta love this de facto attorney stuff, of veritable acumen and capacity!

            2. mespo,

              I didn’t ridicule you. I gave an example of a statement — from one of the people who convicted of J6 crimes — about Trump’s role. And you were silent about it. You claim to be “Always open to new information.” Are you open to listening to the statements from J6 criminals about Trump’s role?

              1. When you learn the difference between facts, and opinion along with hearsay, come back and visit again. Right now you are drowning.

        2. Take note how the word peacefully is left out. Take note that no criminality was mentioned, but this joker believes the ~500 riots during the summer were peaceful and no one was killed. Lots of people were killed during those riots, but the only people killed during the protests were 4 protestors. The only guns at the Capital building were from law enforcement.

          ATS is afraid of a guy wearing a Halloween costume. He is pathetic.

        3. HOWEVER DID THIS HAPPEN?
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          Million Man March

          The Million Man March was a large gathering of African-American men in Washington, D.C., on October 16, 1995. Called by Louis Farrakhan, it was held on and around the National Mall. The National African American Leadership Summit, a leading group of civil rights activists and the Nation of Islam working with scores of civil rights organizations, including many local chapters of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (but not the national NAACP) formed the Million Man March Organizing Committee. The founder of the National African American Leadership Summit, Dr. Benjamin Chavis Jr. served as National Director of the Million Man March.

          – Wiki
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          Naturalization Acts of 1790, 1795, 1798 and 1802

          United States Congress, “An act to establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization,” March 26, 1790

          Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America, in Congress assembled, That any Alien being a free white person, who shall have resided within the limits and under the jurisdiction of the United States for the term of two years, may be admitted to become a citizen thereof…

      2. Mespo says:

        “Trump caused no riot. Deal with that fact.”

        Then why did Turley call Trump’s 1/6 speech “reckless” and call upon Congress to censure him? Can you deal with that fact?

        What do you suppose Turley thought was so egregious about Trump’s conduct that he thought he should be censured?

        Tell me. Tell us all.

        1. JS:

          “Then why did Turley call Trump’s 1/6 speech “reckless” and call upon Congress to censure him? Can you deal with that fact?”
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          Reckless is an opinion. I called the speech fiery but justified, in my opinion. We all have an opinion. The FACT is that Trump said go “peacefully and patriotically.” My first day of undergraduate studies the wonderful Dr. Vernon Mechtensimer explained to we, the assembled political scientists in training, that if you learn only one thing here it’s that “the world of ideas is divided into Fact (which is either true or false) and Opinion (which is only better or poorer based on your understanding of the topic) You have to know the difference.” He reminded me of those sage words four years later when I won the Outstanding Student Award.

          Apparently, you never had Dr. Mechtensimer.

          1. Mespo,

            Don’t evade my question. I asked you why do you think Turley believes that Trump should have been censured by Congress? Obviously, you Trumpists disagree, but I want to hear your *arguments* against his opinion that Trump’s conduct was deserving of condemnation.

            No one here wants to defend their opinion against Turley’s. Rather, Trumpists want to ignore his *opinion* because it undercuts their belief that Trump did absolutely nothing for which he should be criticized much less censured.

            Tell me this, Mespo- had Trump not said “peacefully,” would you share Turley’s opinion? (I don’t include “patriotically” because it would be patriotic to violently stop the electoral count had it actually been fraudulent!) Obviously, Turley does NOT believe Trump’s inserting “peacefully” into his fiery speech absolves him of moral guilt for the “desecration” of our democracy as he described it.

            Don’t run away. Answer.

            1. JS:

              “Don’t evade my question. I asked you why do you think Turley believes that Trump should have been censured by Congress? Obviously, you Trumpists disagree, but I want to hear your *arguments* against his opinion that Trump’s conduct was deserving of condemnation.”
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              Of course, I have no idea why he thinks the way he does. Only he does. I do know that Turley’s a gentleman in the street fight that is politics. He thinks everyone should play by the rules which includes civility. When they don’t he wants a censure of some type. Trump responded with rhetorical fire when he believed that the election was fixed. Given Biden’s utter lack of campaigning and the questions raised in the balloting in three key states, it was justified in my opinion.

              …

              “No one here wants to defend their opinion against Turley’s. Rather, Trumpists want to ignore his *opinion* because it undercuts their belief that Trump did absolutely nothing for which he should be criticized much less censured.”
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              While I like and admire Turley’s accomplishments and opinions, I don’t ascribe omniscience or infallibility to his opinions. I have 38 years of “in the trenches” experience which I also value. We disagree often but never on the fundamentals about trying to seek truth and a disdain for poor reasoning skills. BTW Turley said a lot of things about the topic. Your singling out one cherry hardly makes the whole pie.

              …

              “Tell me this, Mespo- had Trump not said “peacefully,” would you share Turley’s opinion? (I don’t include “patriotically” because it would be patriotic to violently stop the electoral count had it actually been fraudulent!) Obviously, Turley does NOT believe Trump’s inserting “peacefully” into his fiery speech absolves him of moral guilt for the “desecration” of our democracy as he described it.”
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              Sure, once you as a leader ask excitable folks to go anywhere and do anything of a political nature you bear some moral responsibility (not legal) unless you say “peacefully and patriotically” or words to that effect. I don’t see this as desecration. Turley does. It was a riot and wrong but desecration is reserved for acts against the divine and its appurtenances. Halls of government are creations of men not gods. I don’t get all weepy-eyed about democracy as I understand its failings and its glories having studied it and seen it up close in practice and before. People ransacked Rome and the Romans built it up again and thrived. It’s not the buildings that matter, it’s the ideals they represent. If the crowd truly believed that democracy was subverted, their actions were understandable, if not justifiable on the evidence at hand, in furtherance of those ideals since the Will of the people is supreme is the fundamental tenet. It was handled poorly by the crowd, Capitol Police, Nancy the Dolt and that guard who shot a defenseless trespasser. That said, charges were appropriate but they did more harm than good as it was a politicized DOJ who brought them. Yet none for the BLM anarchists in Portland. Nobody likes selective prosecution and that’s what we have here.

              I hope this point by point helps you understand my thinking.

              1. Mespo,

                I appreciate your fulsome reply. It’s refreshing that you- unlike most here- don’t resort to calling me a name, e.g., “retard,” accuse me of TDS, implore me to just go away or wish that I cancel myself by committing suicide! I extend my thanks.

                It’s incredible that you still cling to the belief that the election was somehow “fixed.” Why don’t you believe Cipollone and Barr? Turley vouches for Barr’s integrity. You suspect they are all lying?

                You say that Turley has “said a lot of things about the topic. Your singling out one cherry hardly makes the whole pie.” True, but only a NeverTrumper would call for Trump’s Congressional censure whatever reason he may have had in mind. Turley was not referring to any desecration of a premises but, rather, a FAITH in democracy:

                “A desecration of our democracy”

                https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/533084-a-desecration-of-our-democracy/

                “Without faith in our leaders or the media, more than half of this nation appears to be untethered from the political system. That detachment is perilous for a representative government.”

                “We need to hold accountable all those who committed violence in the Capitol. However, after we determine who stormed Congress and how they succeeded in doing it, we have a far more difficult task to address. After all, an insurrection can simply be put down, but a desecration is much more insidious and dangerous for our democracy.”
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                Unlike Trumpists who have come to believe in a “Deep State,” I share Turley’s unshakeable faith in our courts and legal system. Even where Turley disagreed with the decision of the Sussmann jury, he qualified his remarks by stating that the jury could well have had *good faith* reasons to find him innocent. Trumpists don’t believe in the bona fides of a D.C. jury. They believe it was simply a matter of jury nullification- TDS. Because of Turley’s steadfast faith in the system, I have faith in him despite my criticisms. As a defense attorney by nature, he will defend Trump against criminal prosecution, but if found guilty and all appeals exhausted, Turley will not delegitimize his conviction.

                Do you agree?

                1. JS:
                  Would love to discuss but I have a unusually contentious motion hearing in the AM to prep for. We’ll carry it forward tomorrow.

    2. BabyTrump, your misreading of his article is a reflection on your inability to dialogue/discuss this story, that lacked important facts, in a balanced fashion simply because you needed to use the narrative the way it was being presented by the MSM. Shame on you for using this (little girls) tragedy in an attempt to score one for your “team”. I hope you’re proud.

  5. Jonathan: It seems you are getting some well deserved blowback from your earlier column questioning the authenticity of the story of the 10 yr. old who was forced to travel to Indiana for an abortion. Fox, who you rely upon these days for your “news”, raised that question and you repeated it. But you have not edited out anything regarding your claim the child could have had her abortion in Ohio. So let’s try to unravel your claim.

    Under the Ohio law abortion is banned at 6 weeks. No exceptions for rape or incest. The only exception is cases of endangerment or severely compromised physical health. But you said: “Being three days over the six-week line is not a bar on abortion” under the Ohio law. Correct me if I am in error but the red line is “at” three weeks–not three weeks plus three days. And there is no indication the 10 yr. old suffered from some serious medical condition that would entitle her to an exception under the statue. And why would the child’s doctor refer her for an abortion in Indiana if she could get it Ohio. Doesn’t make sense. Perhaps you can explain this discrepancy to all of us out here.

    What is even more problematic is Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine’s response to this incident. He said it was “gut wrenching” to hear about the girl’s predicament. But it was DeWine who signed the law that forced a child to go through the trauma of traveling to Indiana for the abortion. DeWine’s concern, as was yours, was that the rape was not reported to authorities. That was your focus in your previous column. Talk about slight of hand. You even speculated that if the 10 yr. old was raped by a family member “a child may be living in the same house with a rapist”. As a legal analyst you, of all people, should not be engaged in wild speculation! Leave that to people like Fox’s Jesse Watterrs who said on his Monday night show the incident was fabricated to benefit a left-wing agenda: “You would think the story of a sexual abuser roaming free assaulting 10 year olds would raise quite a few concerns in small town Ohio, but no one seems to be doing anything about it…there’s a monster on the loose and from what we can find, no local newspaper or TV station picked up the story”. Other Fox hosts made the same argument–that the incident was made up. Your column yesterday was a virtual echo chamber of Fox’s false claims. Of course, now that the alleged rapist has been arrested you, Watters and the rest of the Fox crew have been left with egg on your faces. .

    It seems you are having to engage in a lot of mental gymnastics and contortions to try to justify state abortion bans. But don’t worry. There will be other cases involving women who die because they could not be immediately treated for a ectopic pregnancy, another child who is raped and cannot afford to travel to another state for an abortion–or poor and Black women who die in botched abortions. It will be an endless series of “horribles’ brought to us by the religious cabal on the SC. You have a lot of work ahead of you!.

    1. The child did not have to travel to Indiana………… Mr Turley handled it just fine andwas skeptical like we all should be. Terribel situation for the family and hopefully they are doing well under difficult situation. Unfortuneatly this story appears to be true. Not like a few thousand others last 7 years an counting

    2. Dennis the DT hating lip flapper. If J Biden had built the wall and closed the Border , the illegals here committing crimes, their numbers would be much smaller.

  6. Bill Clinton…I walked thru Harlem in the 70’s without a scratch on me!
    Hilary Clinton…I walked thru bullets and never got scathed, top that one!
    Biden…I never talked to my son about any of his business ventures!
    Dr. Jill Biden, I’ll have a salad to go with those breakfast tacos
    Oblahblah: You can keep your doctor (put your hand down Jill)
    Michelle O: when they go low we throw Molotov cocktails and call it peaceful protestors
    Camela Harris: (inaudible word salad and cackling heard)
    Pete Buttplug Secretary of Transportation: Chasten got pregnant! Our dog is the father since it identifies as an illegal immigrant

    the list is endless of their lies, but awesome meme material

  7. Guarantee that someone in the Democratic Party engineered this rape to create this story. They’ve bombed and burned our cities and fed the elderly to COVID – there’s nothing this party of psychopathic oligarchs won’t do.

  8. Why hasn’t Peto Peter Joe Biden & Hunter Biden been arrested yet??????????

  9. What does our Constitution say the remedy is when, as, and IF it is determined that the number of votes for candidate Biden in November of 2020 was incorrect…..not MAY have been incorrect, but factually provably incorrect.

    2. Lowe,

      Bill Barr says the election fraud conspiracy theories were all “BS,” and he is never wrong according to Turley. Even Cipollone seconded that opinion. Why do you continue to believe Trumpist/Q-Anon lies?

    3. This is from Mark Levin yesterday.

      I missed a lot of it but it seems Levin brought some of this stuff in the 1st hour?

  10. The role of law enforcement is to catch the perp. There is no obligation to keep the media updated with a play-by-play of their investigation. I think the cops wanted to catch this guy before he fled, especially since he’s an illegal and a citizen of another country. Alerting the media to his identity and that they were looking for him could very well have led to him immediately disappearing. As to the doctors in Ohio who refused to perform the abortion, I think they were playing it safe. While there may have been some exception in the law to allow the procedure, they are doctors, not lawyers, and they were wary of embroiling themselves in a controversial and legally murky situation. Perhaps they were unclear on the law, or simply did not want to be harassed, picketed and doxxed by fanatics. Who can blame them?

    1. I can blame them! They are doctors, but chose to act like spineless, risk-averse lawyers!

  11. I think it’s just a relief that someone filed a report that led to an arrest. Further details should come out and then everyone can continue their argument about Roe with more facts. I congratulate Professor Turley on filling in more of the facts. As to who was manipulating who, well thats another issue.

  12. There are ramification to the media lying all day every day. No one trusts your crap, even when you are right. If I were Aesop, I would write a fable about a reporter who cried rape.

  13. The rapist is Gerson Fuentes and a Joe Biden special, i.e. an illegal immigrant from the wonderful place the Democrats call the home of their future voters, Guatemala. This rape is on Joe Biden and his supporters along with the 51 Deaths in Texas and the 13 Marine in Afghanistan. Lets go Brandon!

  14. Watch our resident lefties gloat: “Turley was wrong!!!”; “Turley propagated false news!!!”.

    In truth, this story was slow in developing and Turley did what all writers with integrity do when new facts come out: he corrected himself.

    But our lefties are graceless and an apology/correction is not good enough.

    They want Turley to grovel.

    Ugly people.

    1. No one who regularly follows Atty Turley can call him anything but measured and as thorough as he can be (based on evidence available).

      Unfortunately, we all get caught up in the emotions of the day on certain issues and either see or read what we want to or just don’t thoroughly examine what’s being said.

      How about we all calm down and follow the facts as they come out.

      Good job, Atty Turley!

    3. Monument calls Lefties “ugly people,” spoken by a true deplorable.

      1. Ok, Darren. We’ll see what Turley has to say about the comments imploring my suicide. Perhaps, Turley does not believe they are uncivil. Stay tuned…

        1. Marlene,

          That’s exactly what I fear may happen if Trumpists take power. Autocrats cannot govern effectively tolerating NeverTrumpers calling them “liars” all the time. It’s inevitable that NeverTrumpers will have to be silenced by disposing of them one way or the other.

  15. One wonders how Turley will explain himself for continuing to pretend that Trump and his lawyers acted in “good faith” in fomenting all these fraudulent election conspiracy theories if his Fox News is ultimately held liable for defaming Smartmatic and Dominion for recklessly spreading these lies to its millions of viewers. The coverage of the developments in these lawsuits have been blacked out on his blog. Just recently Bill Barr has been subpoenaed in one of the lawsuits, but we here crickets from Turley. Will Turley do the right thing by announcing if he is next in line?

      1. Ejercito says:

        “Trump’s lawyers are far more trustworthy than Robert Mueller.”

        Too bad we can’t Turley his opinion, not that it would matter to a Trumpist liar.

        1. RE: “Thanks!” :”You ain’t seen nothing yet! AlanK take note: “Res ipsa loquitor!!” ,but definitely no Al Jolson..

  17. TEN-YEAR-OLD CHILD

    …WOMAN?
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    Precocious

    Merriam-Webster

    precocious adjective

    pre·​co·​cious | \ pri-ˈkō-shəs
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    Definition of precocious

    1 : exceptionally early in development or occurrence precocious puberty

    2 : exhibiting mature qualities at an unusually early age a precocious child

  18. As it turns out, there never was any real “controversy” over the rape of the 10-year old girl. All there ever was were “questions” raised by alt-right media, of which you are ane employee. The reason for the effort to “question” the veracity of this incident is because it is such a poignant concrete example of the horrendous effects of the Dobbs decision and the radical states like Ohio that ban all abortions without a specific carve out for this type of situation. It makes the State of Ohio look bad, too. So, Turley’s first post claimed there were “glaring questions”. Some of the disciples went so far as to claim that it had been “debunked”.

    And, Turley, we disagree that the language of the “affirmative defense” to Ohio’s absolute abortion ban would have allowed the 10-year-old to receive an abortion in her home state.

    1. The reason to question the veracity was because there was only a single source at the time; no law enforcement agency claimed that Dr. Bernard contacted them about a suspected rape.

      It was not even clear if the abortion had already been performed.

    2. RE:”As it turns out, there never was any real “controversy” over the rape of the 10-year old girl…” There certainly is controversy. It has yet to be fleshed out. The chief issue here is the flagrant violation of law by the physicians and others involved with regard to failing to report the assault, According to the Ohio Attorney General, the Ohio law has a heartbeat provision and, as he has publicly opined, there was no need to transport the child out of state where the provision of Ohio law were concerned. The rest of your diatribe is relevant only to your agenda.

      1. Well! I wonder if the Media will follow up on THAT, eh? He’s a 27 year-old illegal who’s been in Ohio for 7 years now.
        The Judge (I wonder what her political party is?) refused to hold him without bail. He’s held on $2 million, which undoubtedly will get posted by some leftist organization or another.

        Remember: scores of J6 protesters are still being held without bail, 18+ months later, for ‘parading’ and ‘trespassing’ but a high flight-risk, illegal child rapist gets bail?

        This is Biden’s America!
        Meanwhile: the fact remains unchanged: she could have gotten an abortion in Ohio.
        No mention of why her mother wanted to go to another state, or why an abortion rights activist in New York was contacted about this…

      2. How do you know who or when he got reported? He is under arrest, so someone reported him. The law usually protects the identities of personsl reporting sex crimes. The source of the story was a well-respected OB-GYN, and, as it turns out, she was telling the truth. How do you know she didn’t report the incident? There is no REAL “heartbeat” at this early stage of pregnancy because the fetal heart isn’t developed enough to have valves yet, which is the source of a “heartbeat”. What is heard are electrical impulses, but calling it a “heartbeat” is just an excuse to ban abortions. Turley allows his credentials to be used to bolster whatever slop Fox is shoveling at the moment and to divert attention away from the J6 hearings. You disciples to alt-right media can never be wrong. And, what is my “agenda”?

        1. You dont have a heart beat yet here you are
          You dont have a brain wave yet here we are looking at your Zombie attacks

        2. RE:” And, what is my “agenda”?…” Your agenda is to argue against the SCOTUS decision at every turn. Where this case is concerned, according to the Attorney General of the State of Ohio, neither Ohio nor Indiana law enforcement has a report of the rape of a 10 year-old female, and the Ohio abortion law is a heart-beat law which negates the argument that the child’s pregnancy was ‘3 days beyond the six week limit of the the Ohio law, hence the child had to be transported across state lines for same.” Beyond that, the find details have yet to be made public. The shitstorm which arose out of this, initiated by the physician herself in the reporting and the condemnation of Ohio, arose because there was no evidence of the assault as required by law. Hopefully, she and her minions will be hoisted by their own petards, if for nothing other than violating the law. Time for you to get off your soap box and for the rest of us to sit back and allow this ball of wool to unravel.

  20. Is it still alleged that the physician[s] involved failed to report the case as stipulated by law?

    2. If the doctors didn’t report it, then how did the cops know who to arrest. Ouija board? It’s not likely the girl’s mother reported it, because south of the border, adult men impregnating nine-year-olds is nothing unusual (the girl just turned 10, and was 9 when the perp admitted that he raped her on multiple occasions).

      1. RE:”If the doctors didn’t report it, then how did the cops know who to arrest…” Seriously? Be reminded that the arrest comes long after the procedure is done. As of the evening of 6/12, there was no report of a raped child by those caring for her. The ‘How’ is yet to be known.Think carefuly before you comment.

          1. RE:”If you meant 7/12, you’re wrong:…” More like uninformed, I’d say. Well that certainly contradicts what the Ohio D.A. claims, that there was no report filed and he did so on national televsion on 7/12. Nor was the perpetrator, here unlawfully, charged for a period of 3 weeks.until today.

            1. He was arraigned today. That doesn’t mean that he was arrested and charged today.

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