Poll: The J6 Hearings Had Virtually No Impact on Changing the Public Views

For months, we have been discussing the heavy-handed, one-sided approach of the J6 Committee in the presentation of evidence and witnesses. Both sides blame each other for the absence of a single Republican-selected member. Yet, the Committee treated the lack of balance as a license to present a rigid and scripted account of events and actions, including editing out countervailing views or evidence. For those of us who welcomed the greater transparency on the events of that terrible day, it was a lost opportunity to have a truly historic investigation akin to Watergate or the Kennedy assassination. The result is now evident and unsurprising.  A Monmouth University poll shows that almost 90 percent of respondents report that the hearings have made no change in how they view the J6 riot.  Moreover, despite the overwhelming cooperation and support of the media with the Committee, the vast majority believe that the J6 Committee was a political rather than investigative exercise, focused on opposing Trump rather than disclosing the facts of January 6th.

Respondents were asked “Have the recent House January 6 Committee hearings changed your mind about what happened at the Capitol that day or who is responsible, or have the hearings not changed your mind?” Only eight percent answered in the affirmative while 89 percent said it made no change at all in their views.

What was really striking was the response to a prompt stating “Some say that the Jan. 6 committee’s main aim is to ensure President Trump can’t run in 2024.” Sixty percent agreed with that statement, including 62 percent of Democrats and 70 percent of Republicans. That view was reinforced by the baffling decision of Chairman Thompson, Vice Chair Cheney and other members to repeatedly end hearings with calls to oppose Trump in the coming election. It was hardly subtle.

The lack of impact of the hearings is, in my opinion, due to two threshold decisions of the Democrats. First, Speaker Nancy Pelosi and others decided that the Committee would focus on reinforcing “a narrative” rather than follow prior investigatory commissions with an open and balanced inquiry.

After bringing in a television producer, the hearings showed members reading off teleprompters and witnesses confined in limited roles of reaffirming what members were declaring about the riot. There was no effort to present alternative interpretations or viewpoints. It played into criticism of a “show trial” environment–an image that was magnified by Cheney declaring in the last hearing that Trump family and associates had come forward to “confess” and encouraging others to do the same.

Many of us supported the effort to bring greater transparency to what occurred on Jan. 6th and these hearings have offered a great deal of important new information. Indeed, it has proven gut-wrenching in the accounts of lawyers and staff trying to combat baseless theories and to protect the constitutional process.

Yet, the heavy-handed approach to framing the evidence has been both unnecessary and at times counterproductive. The strength of some of this evidence would not have been diminished by a more balanced committee or investigation. The unquestioning media coverage likely added to the feeling of many that these hearings lacked objective analysis and full accounts of what occurred, including the exclusion of any discussion of why the Capitol was left poorly protected on that day despite prior warnings of potential violence.

Second, the Committee over promised the public. At the start of the hearings, committee members promised they had the long-sought smoking-gun evidence — new material that would close the circle on Trump. Committee member Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) indicated he thought there was now “credible evidence” to support a variety of criminal charges. His colleague, Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-Md.), said the committee would show that Trump organized a “coup” on Jan. 6, 2021. That framing has led to glaring omissions. The Committee has routinely edited videotapes and crafted presentations to eliminate alternative explanations or opposing viewpoints like repeatedly editing out Trump telling his supporters to go to the Capitol peacefully.

Offering a more balanced account, including allowing the Republicans to appoint their own members (in accordance with long-standing tradition), would not have lessened much of the dramatic testimony. Yet, allowing Republicans to pick their members (yes, including Rep. Jim Jordan) would have prevented allegations of a highly choreographed show trial. It would have added credibility to the process. Indeed, much of this evidence would have been hard to refute like the deposition of former Attorney General Bill Barr on the election fraud allegations.

Once again, this Committee could have been transformative for opinions on the riot. Instead, it was another Pelosi signature muscle play. As a witness in the first Trump impeachment, I was highly critical of her insistence that the House would impeach before Christmas rather than conduct the traditional impeachment investigation with witnesses. Instead of building a more convincing case, Pelosi preferred to impeach with virtually no record, for a certain defeat in the Senate. In the second impeachment, she went one better: She held no hearing at all and pushed through what I called the first “snap impeachment.”

The Jan. 6 committee was similarly stripped of any pretense. It was as subtle a political move as Pelosi’s ripping up President Trump’s State of the Union speech. Thus, it was not surprising that, when asked what she hoped to achieve from the committee, Pelosi tellingly referred to it as a “narrative.” It is the difference between seeing and simulating justice.

The results in polling are no less predictable. Presented with one-sided, tightly choreographed hearings, most citizens were left precisely where they began. The hearings were meant to enrage the base rather than add allies. It may have succeeded in that limited objective, but it could have been so much more.

Here is the poll: Monmouth University J6 Poll

259 thoughts on “Poll: The J6 Hearings Had Virtually No Impact on Changing the Public Views”

  1. Sane Americans know its all a Hollyweird scripted political stunt spewed from a poorly read teleprompter.

  2. Just once I would like to see some “reporter” ask Schiff where the evidence that he said he was holding on Russia is now. How many times can a proven liar be allowed to say he has evidence without being humiliated.

    Schiff should get the Joe McCarthy treatment and be banished from polite society.

  3. Of course not. Those who support Trump don’t care what he does because they want fascism. The rest of us have known who he was for a long time.

    1. Sammy, the guy that supports Biden, a proven, known corrupt, moneygrubbing loser. Sammy, the moron that sees nothing wrong with the VP taking his son on Airforce 2 to go to CHINA to make deals. Sammy, the partisan moron that sees nothing wrong with Biden being blackmailed by our biggest enemy ever. Sammy, the idiot that sees nothing wrong with adding 87,000 IRS agents which is more than the entire BORDER PATROL AGENCY.

    2. Sammy, please define fascism and them tell us how it applies to President Trump.

      Then ask yourself, what party just passed a bill dictating prescription prices and bail outs for chip manufacturers.

  4. Is the conclusion of the public a surprise to anyone? The Mainstream Media was heavily cooperative but polls now show the media as being trusted by about 11-16% of the public. Congress virtually always polls low and now even lower. Pelosi’s obvious hatred of Trump has been on full display for years. You had 2 impeachments that were dog and pony shows and rammed through by Pelosi and Schiff while underscoring their hatred and bias. And also about only 10% or less of the public bothered to even watch the “hearings”. I am actually old enough to remember broadcasts of the show trials in Cuba after Castro’s ascension to power and awful as they were, they actually were conducted better even though we knew what the outcome would be, which was also awful. I am no fan of the democrats at all but I will listen to facts and make judgements based on that but blind hatred makes no sense, poisons your message and dilutes or destroys any conclusions you might try to put forth. Pelosi seems to have an arrogance that knows no bounds when she could have presented a balanced and very systematic perusal and discussion of all the facts. It is tedious but that is where we achieve justice. Remember that those who engage in show trials tend to end up eaten by their own compatriots and if thrown out of power, well then things can get really ugly.

  5. The Mar-A Lago raid is glaring evidence that the hearings aren’t having their desired effect. It’s their Hail Mary Pass.

  6. If Trump supporters love their country more than their party, they should watch the film “Boogie Man, the Lee Atwater Story”. It’s a non-partisan film featuring mostly top Republican leaders (very few Democrats) since the Nixon Administration.

    After watching the film, now consider that Roger Ailes was hip deep in all of this. After his highly partisan career in government, Ailes was then hired as the head of Fox News.

    It is always valuable to hear the views of Fox News, but also maybe listen to other news networks occasionally. By listening to different, even partisan news networks, the voter can triangulate the information to get to the truth. Listen to the Republican Marine Corp hero (and former Trump lover) near the end of the January 6 hearings.

    Trump is the polar opposite of Teddy Roosevelt, Eisenhower, Goldwater and Reagan on many issues. Eisenhower (Allied Commander on D-Day) supported NATO. Reagan viewed leaders like Putin as evil.

    Today’s Trump movement seems to only support racism and bigotry, there is little similarity to what real Republicans like Teddy Roosevelt, Eisenhower, Goldwater and Reagan. Republicans no longer support small, limited, constitutional and non-intrusive government. Trump is the real RINO.

    If you love the country over political party, at least listen to all sides and what the candidates actually stand for. No party can survive simply supporting racism and bigotry. No Christian church supports these values either.

    1. Only a Russian troll would identify Eisenhower that way. Why aren’t people forced to use their real names as it was in letters to the editors in this now defunct medium called a newspaper

      1. Original post got blocked for using a polite, academic work to identify a minority group

        Aschroft going back to Nixon. Ignoring the present. Foreign Intelligence Security Act. Used by the DOJ to spy on a political campaign. Understand the DoJ had NO CRIME in sight, so no judge, no matter how corrupt, would issue a warrant without a crime. Now we have the DoJ storming the home of an ex President, instead of issuing a simple subpoena.

        Thats today, not 5, 6 or 7 decades ago. We can go back in history if you like. The KKK was the Democrat Party storm troopers to keep People of Color in their place. Democrats have always been the true racists.

  7. Democrat Policies: Support of the criminal vs.the victim, legal drugs and genital mutilation of kids, teaching that America is evil and non-redeemable, judging people by the color of their skin, legalized killing of a baby until birth, open border policy allowing drugs/sex cartels into our country unabated, abhorrence of our Constitution and the brilliant men who wrote it, allowing an unelected world cabal to dictate US policy, tax rates and regulations that kill small businesses and the middle class.

    Democrat policies are supported by fewer than 25% of Americans. So Democrat’s only hope is smears against their political enemies and the obeisance of the propagandists Press that delivers those smears. This committee was just another in a history of Massive Smear Campaigns the American public has been subjected to over the last 4 decades. It didn’t start with Trump (Ford trips, Reagan is stupid, Dan Rather’s lies about GWB) but escalated during his tenure.

    Smears are the only hope for the weak-minded and ignorant policies Democrats support. Sharyll Atkinson’s book “The Smear: How Shady Political Operatives and Fake News Control What You See, What You Think, and How You Vote” is an excellent review of how Democrat’s have spent so many years lying to the American public that most Americans are incapable of seeing the truth.

  8. Simple fact: Americans are more concerned about inflation, the economy, direction the country is going.

    As noted in other poll, COIVD, the Jan6 hearings and climate change did not make the top ten issues Americans were concerned with.

    Food banks are seeing long lines again, and they say about 10% are new/first time users. Also, food banks are running out of money as inflation is crushing their purchasing power.
    Like nearly all other Americans.
    Food prices are expected to go up even more later this year, and depending on how the hard winter wheat crops come in next spring, could see that too in 2023.
    A lot of farmers and ranchers are selling off their herds now. Might see a drop in meat prices in the short term, but that means a tight market or shortage next year.

  9. I will admit that I didn’t follow the hearings, but I have a question. Why is J6 called a riot and not a protest? I live in Minnesota and all we have is protests that burn down police stations, businesses and get people killed. Could you have a column that explains the difference between a riot and a protest?

    1. It was a “protest” that quickly devolved into a riot. The violence and assaults on law enforcement should be your first clue.

      1. Just like the violence and assaults on law enforcement during the summer of love, mostly peaceful protests that Democrats spent $millions to bail out the people responsible.

        1. They weren’t murdered. They were shot while committing a crime. Disobey lawful commands. You get shot. It’s standard police practice.

          1. There he goes again, but thank the Lord ATS didn’t call Ashli Babbitt a stupid woman again. There is police procedure that tells us when a shooting is appropriate. This was a murder of a 105 pound unarmed female in cold blood who threatened no one.

            This turkey would shoot anyone. He walks like a Nazi, sounds like a Nazi therefore he must be a Nazi type

    2. “Why is J6 called a riot and not a protest?”

      The Left needs to call it a “riot” to decree it an “insurrection” — and then flog that to achieve their ends (e.g., a show trial).

      True to form, the Left feels that its words create reality.

  10. What a joke Bill Barr has become. To paraphrase I’m not surprised Trump lost he has such a revolting personality or something like that after earlier saying that the possibility of fraud was obvious. It shows either blackmail or malfeasance of Barr. I go with blackmail.

  11. For some years now, we have had “narrative” journalism, where the established Eastern media companies have determined in advance how the American people should view major political events. Now, we are transitioning to narrative government where Congress makes similar decisions in its hearing processes. Indeed, Hollywood and the educational system can almost seem to be part of the same progress toward a culture of unrelenting propaganda.

    1. where the established Eastern media companies have determined in advance

      Not disagreeing.

      But. It is important to re calibrate the mind to the new facts. What you refer to ‘media companies’ are actually owned by entertainment companies. That’s how Nancy could go the a”news” producer to produce there entertainment show. News and entertainment are inseparable.

      1. You make a key point Iowan that few people pay attention to
        — ABC is really Disney, the groomer company
        — CBS is really the Dedham (Massachusetts) Drive In Theater Company (trace its roots for a rags to riches story… of course it was the grandfather’s rags to the granddaughter’s tens of millions donated to the Democratic Party)
        — NBC is Comcast (publicly traded but effectively controlled through preferred stock by the leading Democratic Party donors, the Roberts)

  12. Nothing here to really discuss. Facts are facts.

    No coupe, no insurrection. no crimes associated with President Trump.

    What we do know, the actions of the DoJ and the DC judiciary, show rampant political corruption of the justice system. This is the revelation of the Democrat only committee. Nothing new about that day. Nothing not already public. What we do know, the FBI and DOJ are political tools for the Democrat Party.
    Something that has gone silent is very interesting. Missing Cell phone data from the Secret Service. Dems were, hair on fire nuts about the wiped cell phones…..UNTIL…information leaked out the DoD phones also had been wiped. Then it all went silent. Such a deep violation of the constitution, both D’s and R’s are working to cover up the truth.

    There is only one reason for the that. Democrats in congress had MILITARY undercover operatives at the Capitol on Jan 6. A clear violation of the Constitution. Here is the real crime.

    1. Iowan2,

      “ There is only one reason for the that. Democrats in congress had MILITARY undercover operatives at the Capitol on Jan 6. A clear violation of the Constitution. Here is the real crime.”

      LOL!!!! And we happen to know that the unicorn squad is responsible for trumps nefarious spread of covid to detract from his many failures as president.

      The silly attempts at the ridiculous are just that, ridiculous. This is why conspiracy theory nutters are laughed at.

      1. Svelaz, explain why the “narrative” went dark? Dems were on a rip, accusing the Secret Service of covering for the President. Until the news broke, DoD officials communications also dissappeared for the same time frame. Active Military was under orders in the crowd on Jan 6.

        The continued silence and ignoring the SS phone issue in September will be the proof

        1. Iowan2,

          “ Svelaz, explain why the “narrative” went dark?”

          Could it be because they are actively investigating out of the public eye? That didn’t occur to you?

          It’s telling how easily you jump into one conspiracy theory after another without stopping to think.

          All in an attempt to figure out what the “lefties” are up to.

          1. The committee could claim what it wants. The media? The two entities are very hard to distinguish from each other, but the media is silent. The media’s job is to do damage control for the Dems.

  13. Combining the events at Mar-a-Largo, J6 and the coming of 66k IRS auditors the Democrats are steering the nation into some very dangerous waters, vessel’s usually sink when hit with rogue waves.

    1. What’s wrong with the additional IRS auditors? You can’t enforce the law without auditors. Making sure everyone is following the law should be fully supported by republicans.

      You want to catch tax cheats don’t you?

      1. “You want to catch tax cheats don’t you?”

        You want to loot more money from hard-working Americans, don’t you?

        After all, they are just a means to your ends, aren’t they?

        1. So you’re ok with tax cheats getting away with cheating while YOU pay more for THEIR need to cheat?

          The law is not just there for decoration. It’s there to be followed by everyone. Can’t make sure everyone is following the law without law enforcement, right?

          1. “. . . following the law . . .”

            When the “law” sanctions government confiscation and the redistribution of wealth, then “cheating” is a virtue and an act of self-preservation.

          1. “Our pay checks are nothing more than crops to be harvested.”

            And those productive individuals who *earn* those paychecks are nothing more then farm animals, to be fattened up for the slaughter.

      2. People making over $250,000 are now heavily audited. That means the 87,000 agents (claimed — no idea of source) are going to go after revenue among the 50% of taxpayers under $250,000 but over $50,000 (most people under $50,000 pay no income taxes unless they make out the form wrong; most people under $100,000 should not be itemizing so cheating is minimal there as well). Most of the errors in the $50K-$250K cohorts’ filings are just that — errors — and work for the government as much as they work against it. It will be a lot of auditing for no gain
        _____________
        All numbers rounded and SWAGed but in the ballpark

        1. Dennis, good post

          What has occurred to me is the advancement of technology. Has anyone been into their bank lately? That used to be a labor intensive enterprise, changed drastically by computers.
          Now do the IRS. 30 years ago, paper returns had to be audited on paper. Now….its all digital. AI can run 1000 different scenarios on each return in less than a second, and kickout those few that fall outside of parameters and then rerun them again using more sophisticated calculations, then again. This so streamlines the prccess, you have to doubt the narrative these are auditors to catch tax cheats.

          1. LOL! The IRS still uses outdated computers and servers. They haven’t been able to upgrade their systems due to continued budget cuts from republicans. $80 billion will go a long way into updating systems and hiring more personnel to enforce and speed up tax return processes.

            1. LOL. 86,000 agents are now computers. $200,000 per agent X 86,000 agents= $17,000,000,000

              Tax returns for those making over $400,000 make up less than 2% of all returns. But I total trust the democrats that claim the new agents are only after the super rich. I don’ t need a super computer to do arithmetic.

      3. 536 people in a far away capitol confiscate $4 TRILLION each year from the 330 million of us who earn it to support our families. But that’s not enough to satisfy the greed of the politicians, who want more to spread around to their clients to bribe them for their votes.

        There are roughly 730 billionaires in the US. We don’t need 87,000 more IRS agents to squeeze more out of 730 billionaires.

        1. The need for more IRS agents is bogus. The left acts as if there is more tax revenue to be obtained from very rich people.

          All one has to do is look at the entirety of the law to see that is not their intention. In one case it takes 14 billion dollars and provides that money to one of the very rich groups of Americans. Sinema voted for the bill, but to get that vote the carry-over credit had to exist. That means that hedge fund managers earning tens of millions of dollars pay capital gains rather than the higher individual tax rate.

          That means the poor are subsidizing the rich under the Biden plan. I should be happy because I can afford a Tesla and the government will make sure I get a $7,500 break on its cost. Does anyone think that the clerks at Walmart can afford Teslas?

          Democrats are screwing the working person, but we have a bunch of people writing on this blog that think they are so smart that no one will notice the working person’s standard of living dropping or the small business person disappearing.

          For the sake of humanity, no one should vote for any Democrat until the party disavows its allegiance to tyranny and greed.

          1. “ The need for more IRS agents is bogus. The left acts as if there is more tax revenue to be obtained from very rich people.”

            No. It’s about having enough people to enforce laws already on the books. For years republicans have been cutting the IRS budget and keeping it understaffed because it benefits their tax cheating donors. It’s republicans who always complain about current laws not being enforced. Because there are not enough people to enforce the law because the irs is constantly underfunded by congress. Democrats are doing what republicans always wanted enforce current laws and that takes more people. The IRS will have money and resources to actually enforce laws currently on the books.

            1. Svelaz the clueless, (HAT Tip J.S.)

              Get your head out of your a$$. If the government is trying to make things fair then why the $14 Billion special provision for Sinema so that the very rich can get richer?

              Can you afford an expensive Tesla? I can, so why is the government paying $7,500 of my costs?

              Being dumb and ignorant is dangerous.

          2. Perhaps every piece of legislation that requires the VP to break a tie or does not pass with >60% support come with a sunset provision that effectively kills the law when triggering that provision. So in this piece of legislation we were told it would not effect those making <$400k per year. If and when it does, then everything that this law enacted dies. Even those provisions that have nothing to do with the IRS. Consider this the Fruit of the Poisonous Tree clause. Maybe, just maybe that will encourage Congress to stop writing massive spending legislation.

            1. I believe that bills that do not meet their promises should be sunset. This most recent bill spends money and the benefits of saving money comes 5 or more years later which means no saving, only spending.

        2. The additional 87,000 agents doesn’t mean they are all going to be auditors. They can assist in speeding up processing of returns, solve problems for taxpayers with more and more complicated tax laws.

          For years congress has deliberately underfunded the IRS because they didn’t want billionaires and millionaires to be audited and be forced to follow the law. Republicans are always talking about enforcing current laws instead of making new ones. Here they increased funding to enforce current laws. Exactly what republicans have been saying for years. Now that it is a reality they are complaining because they really didn’t want to enforce current laws. Because it’s an inconvenience for billionaires and millionaires to pay what they really owe.

          1. “. . . for billionaires and millionaires to pay what they really owe.”

            You gotta love those who see themselves as the dispensers of other peoples’ money and lives.

            1. The whole mess is ludicrously stupid.

              In what world is it a good idea to take the top 1% – by far the most productive members of our society and punish them for being productive ?

              I want MORE Elon Musk’s More Jeff Bezo’s, More Bill Gate’s More Warren Buffets.

              Whether I like their politics or not. These people make all of us better off. They not only provide us things we want, but they created millions of jobs doing so.

              And what do they get in return ? Some private jets, and yatch’s and houses, and dinners at fancy resturaunts.

              250 years ago Adam Smith grasped that the vast majority of the riches of the fabulously wealthy was reinvested and benefited the rest of us – not themselves.

              Given that there is say $100B lying arround who will put it to more productive use ? Elon Musk or Joe Biden ?

              Zero is too high a tax rate for the most productive people on earth.

              1. “These people make all of us better off.”

                Exactly!

                They are our greatest economic benefactors. And for those gifts, for their virtue — they are punished.

                They are Prometheus. Only I wish they would change their mind.

            2. I do not earn 400K/yr.

              But my tax return is about 10 times the average size.
              I employ a bit less tan 1 dozen people today. That is down from about 55 in 2001.
              I have multiple businesses.
              I have more deductions than I am allowed to take.

              An when I enter my taxes in TurboTax each year my audit risk is ALWAYS red – high.
              I have been audited before – it is very expensive, I must hire accountants and lawyers.
              They always end up getting some money – in fact my accountants and lawyers advise me not to fight over some issues where the government is wrong as it will just make them waste more of my time and professional fees until they find something.
              They MUST fund enough to justify doing the audit in the first place.
              So I know that every time I am audited – it will cost me nearly 10,000 dollars. Because, they will not go away until it does.

              If the IRS makes me miserable enough – I will retire. I am 64. I continue to work because I love what I do.
              I am not fabulously wealthy, but I could liquidate all my businesses and retire and live as well as I do now. Possibily better.

              I do not need to work. I do so because I want to.
              And because I still work – about a dozen other people have jobs.

              So is it a good idea for government to terrorize me ? I think not.

              And I have zero doubt who Biden and the IRS are targeting — ME!

              And if they are not after me,. They are targeting someone else they are better off leaving alone.

              Rather than the idiocy of trying to get 300B from torturing people over their tax returns for the next 10 years.
              How about cutting spending by 300B so that they do not need those taxes.

              I am quite certain that Musk, or I or people earning 400,000 per year can spend that money far better for all of us than Joe Biden can.

              The whole idea that government spending 5T$ is good for us is ludicrously stupid.

      4. Svelaz wrote, “You want to catch tax cheats don’t you?”

        What evidence do you have that there are lots and lots of uncaught tax cheats out there justifying an additional 87,000 new IRS agents? I’m dead seriously Svelaz, present the evidence.

        That 87,000 new IRS agents is an average of 7,250 IRS agents per state and works out to be an average of 5 IRS agents for every city and town in the State of Wisconsin, where I live, no matter how small the town is. If those 87,000 new IRS agents audit 3 people per week for 52 weeks a year that’s 13,572,000 additional audits per year. There is about 258.3 million adults in the USA so that 13.5 million additional audits per year is about 5.25% of the adult population and that extrapolates out to 52.54% in 10 years – that’s additional audits beyond what they’re doing now; don’t tell me that they aren’t trying to weaponize the IRS.

        This IRS move, and your ignorant totalitarian position rationalizing the move, is very much like Joseph Stalin’s ruthless Secret Police Chief Lavrentiy Beria’s thinking “Show me the man and I’ll show you the crime”. That is how totalitarians like you think.

        1. Ask yourself why do we even need all these ABC agencies anyway.

          Here in Okla everyone pays the Taxes on fuel at the pump, the station pays all the taxes to the refinery, they collect for the state,etc..

          No need to audit most Citizens & Businesses on fuel other then a handful of refineries.

          DOJ, FBI, DOE, etc., Build Back Better has shown it a complete failure & doesn’t work, how about we just shut all these big govt down & move most of it back to the states.

          Fm Ron Paul, Attorney R Barnes & others have long pointed out how to make govt work.

            1. Considering all those Blue State Sh*t Holes Okla Shines.

              Even with Biden’s higher fuel prices Okla is still around 1/2 price Cali, others.

              Eat your WEF Bugs for dinner we still have cheap steaks.

              1. Olly send me a few cases of steaks boxed on dry ice: Fillet, Sirloin, Ribeye….6-8 ounce cuts, beggars cant be choosy, and send me the bill. I’ll send you some Cuban pastries home made and my grandmother’s family secret Flan recipe.

                🤠

                  1. It is good, kinda like grass feed beef.

                    But with all the laws, many the govt won’t even show us, I’m not even sure how to legally cut a fart (CO2) without breaking the law let alone ship beef or wild game across state lines? lol

                    1. I’ve had Omaha steaks before, they were pretty good.

                      A lot of it is who’s doing the cooking.

                      The stuff were buying has had some some on feed.

                      That grass can be tough & dry.

                      A huge thing about storing meat & flavor is that one has to have a chest type freezer as ref/freezer is that the freezer holds a stable low temp.

                1. I’m not sure what to do with that?

                  Regardless everyone should secure their families the best they can for this winter/beyond, including your uncle.

        2. (Here in Okla everyone pays the Taxes on fuel at the pump, the refinery does the billing/taxes they collect & place it on for the state,etc..)

    2. How many Democrats ran campaigns promising to increase taxes and double the number of IRS agents?

  14. The Dims truly are incompetent at most everything – foreign policy, the economy, social policy – but they reserve their truest folly for propaganda. They have turned even supporters against them with this retreat from American principles. They truly are a cargo cult and their faux god, diversity, is not amused. I’ll enjoy their steaming full bore into the rocks. We can start with Barnacle Liz the Sailor next week!

  15. Trump offers Bow Wow Bowser National Guard support which she declines. Piglosi, who has overall security authority, declines to beef up the capital police presence despite being warned by numerous security entities. Trump admonishes his supporters to go to the capital to peacefully protest. Video at the capital clearly shows capital police holding open the doors for those crazed right wingers sauntering in to take a selfie and then leave. Not to mention clear agitators like Ray Epps who were trying in desperation to get people to go inside the capital, but the FBI has no interest in arresting. No wonder people think Piglosies J6 sideshow is complete BS.

  16. Another Pelosi/Schumer/Nadler/Schiff show designed with an intentional fatal flaw because they know their stated goals were unattainable: impeachment, or charges, or preventing the ascension of a SCOTUS justice. No need to make an honest effort at achieving that.

    They went straight to the actual purpose: weaponize the constitutional powers of congress to diminish and destroy their most effective and powerful political opponent since Reagan, Trump.

    They had help. From the very beginning a cooperating media, the became traitors to the people by becoming the gate keepers of information that we the people could hear or say. The only constitutionally protected civilian institution in the first amendment shirked their responsibility to report events fairly and dispassionately.

    Politicians do as they do, given an inch they will grab for a mile. It is the media, the profession of journalism, and those who cheered them on by discarding their principles and integrity for political expediency and personal hatred that deserves the shame and disgust of history.

    1. The televised January 6th hearings provided us with an opportunity to watch alternate programming. Honestly didn’t watch even a second of the hearings, skipped reading any “news” articles relative to the hearings, don’t know, don’t care. However we have humorously enjoyed watching participants such as Liz Cheney despotically try to retain their congressional seats.

  17. It’s certainly possible the reason for raiding Trump’s home was to find something to move the J6 show closer to evidence of a crime, which means they know J6 is a failure and sure to backfire unless they come up with something. Look for “trumped up charges” and planted evidence.

  18. One reason that the Senate Watergate Committee did so well was not just Sam Ervin. Howard Baker, IIRC, played an important role and,gave the committee some legitimacy. Who knows – maybe Jordan would have changed his mind. People saw this as a show trial and as a means of settling both personal (Cheney) and political (Pelosi) agendas. I would not be surprised if the next Congress, led by the GOP, censured Schiff for his lies about the Collusion hoax and his comments about 1/6 evidence.

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