I have a column out this morning on the widespread claim by media and political figures that democracy may be lost if the GOP prevails in the midterm elections. The over-the-top rhetoric was recently captured in the unhinged claim of historian Michael Beschloss on MSNBC that a Republican win could lead not only to the end of history books and democracy but lead to the killing of our children. MSNBC later followed up with an interview with actor and Director Rob Reiner who seemed to struggle to outdo Beschloss in the apocalyptic predictions.
On MSNBC’s “The ReidOut,” Anchor Joy Reid brought up the possibility of “rape panels” for women seeking abortions if the GOP wins and asked why the election is this close. Reiner then went full fringe:
“Because the other side reality does not mean anything. They are only interested in power. They are only interested, and they will do anything to get the power. And they are willing to kill, literally kill, to get the power. You can’t have a conversation with them. The only thing we can do is try to hold on to the House and a couple of Senate seats. It will be very hard. If we do not do that, this might be the last election we have in a democracy.”
It is unfortunately right on message for not just MSNBC but many of our leaders, including President Biden. On MSNBC, Rep. Madeleine Dean (D-Pa.) previously agreed with John Heilemann that Democrats must “scare the crap out of [voters] and get them to come out.”
However, as discussed today in my Hill column, the claims ignore both the historical and constitutional realities of this country. The “democracy or death” pitch is not only failing to shift the direction of most polls, it fails to consider the proven resilience of our constitutional system and the commitment of our people to the rule of law.
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Reiner is evidence that wealth doesn’t equate with intelligence
Hillary Clinton received about 3 million more votes than Trump in 2016. Al Gore received about 500,000 more votes than George W, Bush. They only lost due to the Electoral College votes, not votes by actual voters.
Put another way, the vast majority of registered voters didn’t vote for either Bush or Trump.
Why are Republicans outraged? Democrats won more votes in both these elections.
– – because in our federal system, the states are the voters. It has happened in parliamentary systems, that one party will garner more votes than its main opponent, but that the opponent will end up with more seats in Parliament. I believe that that happened in Canada last year and in the UK in 1972 or 1974. No one objected to the outcome. The rules of the game are the rules of the game. Democrats didn’t object that John Kennedy won the Presidency in 1960 with fewer popular votes than Nixon, even without excluding the phony votes in Illinois. (Yes, Nixon did get more total votes than Kennedy, if the Alabama votes are allocated accurately.)
Trump before he was elected said that the popular vote should determine the election. Each state having two senators is also unfair. Why should Wisconsin have the same representation as California when the population of Calif is 40 million and Wisconsin 6 million?
Another dope that dies understand our system of government
Simple, because the Founding Fathers thought it would be a bad idea to let the largest population centers determine the outcome of the presidential election. Smaller states would be completely ignored.
Someone didn’t take their Civics class seriously. Maybe that’s why Cali has 52 congresspersons and Wisconsin has just 8.
Trump supporter Ashli Babbitt. Killed on January 6.
Trump supporter Roseanne Boyland. Killed on January 6.
Not one word from the left.
While it is tragic that these 2 women died such horrible deaths, they did make that choice to be there. Rosanne Boyland was crushed to death by the very people she shared her beliefs with.
Shari, don’t forget the black female police officer that was beating her with a baton shortly before her death. Also don’t forget that while she was in trouble the police were using tear gas and pushing the crowd so she would invariably be crushed to death.
I like the police and most are good people but we had a few that wanted to cause harm and they did. Don’t forget the many instances of police violence that sent people to the hospital. Don’t forget Nancy Pelosi didn’t allow troops and has refused to permit the videos and all the details of J6 to be revealed. If you can, tell us why she is afraid of releasing information that can prove innocence of some J6.
Finally don’t forget all the FBI agents that were inside of the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers. In the Whitmer kidnapping it seems that the agents were the provocateurs.
J6 was completely avoidable.
Do not lock down the capitol.
Control access – anybody who wants in can get in, but only so many at a time, and everyone searched for weapons first.
That is the norm.
That can be done with the 2400 members of the CP.
But if they were not sufficient – the Guard was available.
Everything about J6 from the left is nonsense.
One of the things the House MUST do, is release ALL the video.
Let the chips fall where they may.
“John Say says:
November 21, 2022 at 4:38 PM
J6 was completely avoidable. ”
Yes, completely Avoidable, it’s called Honest Elections!!!
Last week FBI/Wray basically Confirmed the US Intel agencies had Agiprops dressed as Trump Supporters inside Congress Bldg before Pelosi/McConnell/Leadership Unlocked & Open the Doors to Peaceful & Completely Unaware American supporters.
Enough!!!, Enough is enough of theirJ6 total BullSheet false narrative, the Coup was really the Congress/Senate/Intel Leadership & Fm AG Bill Barr will investigate the 2022 Election Fraud right after he Starts/Finishes his 2020 election Fraud investigation he never started.
again release ALL the video from J6 – make it public. Let people all over the country left and right crowdsource identifying people.
I do not know if you have paid any attention to the emergency power hearings in Canada recently,
But they have Trudeau in emails admitting they did not need to invoke the emergency powers act – they did so in the expectation that the Truckers could be pushed into violating the law.
There are some indications that Pelosi was doing the same – that she locked the Capital unconstitutionally in the hopes that people would break in. That she refused the NG in the hopes things would turn violent.
Basically that she did everything in her power to avoid following the Constitution and allowing legitimate protest, and pushing protestors toward violence.
Regardless we need real inquiry – and this is actually more important than the biden enquiry.
We’re all going into 4 plus years of the CV 19 Bio-Chem Weapon Attack against the world right now.
The Hitler era German Constitution had a Emergency exemption in it & Hitler & his Nazis used it to subdue the Germans, seize their weapons of self defence & all other Rights.
The US Constitution has no such Exemptions for the Govt , (Congress/Prez, etc.) to Steal the Citizen Owner’s Rights. The Govt is to Cede Authority to those Citizen’s Rights.
Like things like water skiing once a person breaks on top of the water it gets easy, I think the Citizens & myself are starting to break on top of the knowledge bearier & gain the ability to verbalize their concerns .
Hopefully before the Klaus Schwab, Bill Gates, WEF evil types turn all of us into nothing more then brain dead zombies.
This is a bit of an update, but it takes times & effort to gain from it. Most won’t, that’s my/our advantage.
Yes, they chose to be at a protest of a fraudulent election.
They did not choose to be shot, or bludgeoned to death.
They expected legitimately that the CP and congress would respect their ABSOLUTE right to protest, to free speech, and to petition government,
Boyland was not “crushed to death, She was Beaten to death by a black female CP offiicer who used a batton on her head, chest, arms and legs.
By law that is considered deadly force. It is as if the officer Shot her.
No one hit George Floyd with a batton – in fact no one hit him at all.
That is despite the fact that he was caught passing a counterfeit $20, and he was highly agitated and whacked out of his mind on Fentanyl at the time. That the police actually let him OUT of the police car because he was destroying it and likely to hurt himself
I would further note that Boyland was protesting OUTSIDE the Capital. At no time did she enter the capital.
At no time did she in anyway threaten the CP.
If you beleive that Floyd was murdered – then Boyland was 10 times over.
Regardless, you established with Floyd that misconduct of the “victim” is not a justification for police to kill you.
They did not merely make a choice to be there – they had a RIGHT to be there.
“Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”
Stalin and Mao were evil murderers, yet I don’t hear Republicans likening Biden et al to them. Yet, we continually get compared to Nazis and our politicians to Hitler. Trump and the Dems are soon to learn the electorate are tired of this hysteria and name-calling and simply want leadership.
Well, what else are Democrats going to do? Run on their record for crime, border security, gas prices, food prices, the Afghanistan rout, the cost to heat our homes this winter, inflation, medical costs, BLM riots, CHOP/CHAZ, the skyrocketing crime and murder rate after they defunded the police, or how hard it is to run a business?
They’ve got nothing.
So they portray the Republican Party as Grampus and Babba Yaga rolled into one, come to kill your children.
Don’t believe your eyes and ears, that the out of control crime is a threat to your kids. No. It’s Republicans, apparently.
This is an IQ test.
If Democrats are elected it means men will be able to to get pregnant and if they look like Joy God help us all.
I’m afraid if the Democrats are elected that men will now be able to get pregnant and who knows what the kid will look like, Haven for bid it looks like Joy.
Hey! Did you hear that according to Joy Reid, all us dumb American voters never heard of inflation till now?
“The only people I ever hear use the word “inflation” are journalists and economists… right? So that is not part of the normal lexicon of the way people talk. So it’s interesting that Republicans are doing something they don’t normally do, right? — which is not use the ‘common tongue,’ not use common English, which they do in their campaigns like they do with crime. But what they’ve done is they’ve taught people the word ‘inflation,’ right?”
Shes dang tooten rite! Us unwashed voters nevrr hear da woord ‘inflation’ be4! Tank goodly I gots me sum ed-U-mencation! Hey, Darla! Git me nother PBR!
“. . . they’ve taught people . . .”
Better that than the Left’s tyrannical approach:
The people are too defective to learn. So we have to *compel* them to accept certain opinions and to take certain vaccines.
National IQ Test on Nov 8th. We will see if American’s understand the concept of inflation.
Let’s you and them fight.
Yes, yes, mistakes have been made. Yesterday’s bomb-vest wearing terrorist on TV screaming “Allahu Akbar” may have morphed into middle-class suburban American parents at your local school board meeting opposed to gender dysphoria and CRT propaganda. They may not know that their names may be part of an FBI file. But Joe Biden’s Justice Department knows who they are.
Interesting. By voting via the democratic process we run the risk of losing our democracy. And increasing the level of hypocrisy, I suggest.
From Reiner.. “this might be the last election we have in a democracy.”
It most certainly will not be that. However, it may by the last election we have that includes the far left fruitcake fringe of the Democratic Party.
The Republicans HUNGER for power has destroyed them.
A THIRD party is need in the U.S. to curb that greed.
They are an absolute disgrace. And their grab for power that hasn’t been addressed, is causing all kinds of people to go off the ropes.
THIRD PARTY, IS THE ANSWER.
Does anyone here know if “Karen s” is okay? It’s not like her not to posting. Anyone? Or did I just miss it?
jaelyn unafraid…………Karen S. commented yesterday, Nov 4 on the “Crickets” post
I miss her wisdom when she doesn’t comment.
Ah, thanks, Jaelyn and Cindy. I’ve been so busy lately. It’s nice to know that if California’s green energy power grid goes out, during a wildfire, where my well won’t be able to pump water, and the mandatory electric vehicle I’ll be forced to buy someday in the near future will sit, dead and uncharged, in my driveway, that my absence will be noticed. 🙂