Below is my column in the New York Post on the recently disclosed videotapes from Jan. 6th. The tapes include images never seen before by the public of that day. However, my interest was drawn primarily to the images of “QAnon Shaman” Jacob Chansley being escorted through the Capitol. That footage raises serious questions about Chansley’s case in my view.
I am continuing to pursue the implications of the video today, but here is the column:
Fox’s Tucker Carson aired the long-awaited release of previously undisclosed footage from the Jan. 6 riot this week.
The first tranche of videotapes elicits major concerns over Jan. 6 committee members’ past claims.
Yet the most serious disclosures, in my view, relate to the case of “QAnon Shaman” Jacob Chansley.
I previously expressed reservations over the heavy sentence given to Chansley.
The new footage raises more questions about the Justice Department’s and the court’s handling of the case.
After the Republican Party boycotted the committee following the rejection of its proposed members, the committee could have strived to offer a balanced inquiry.
Instead, it hired a former ABC producer to put on a production for television, including tightly scripted statements and questions.
Witnesses were used as virtual props, and the committee consistently blocked any alternative views and evidence.
The members repeatedly used the hearing to make a pitch for the midterm and 2024 elections.
Even The New York Times admitted the narrative was meant to “recast the midterm message” and “give [Democrats] a platform for making a broader case about why they deserve to stay in power.”
I supported the committee’s creation, and I was highly critical of President Donald Trump’s remarks before the riot.
Indeed, I publicly condemned Trump’s speech while it was being given, and I called for a bipartisan vote of censure over his responsibility in the riots.
I also found much of the testimony to be highly disturbing from respected public servants opposed to the violence and the election denial.
The committee sacrificed its legitimacy by putting on hearings that often sounded more like a show trial than an objective congressional inquiry. It could have been so much more.
But the footage of Chansley was most disturbing.
I have supported the prosecution of those who rioted on Jan. 6. As I said immediately after the riot, it was a desecration of our constitutional process.
Yet many of us were surprised Chansley was given a 41-month sentence for “obstructing a federal proceeding.”
The sentence exceeded those handed down for violent offenses. Indeed, an Antifa member who took an axe to a member’s office in Fargo, ND, was later given probation … and his axe back.
I also objected to the Justice Department’s draconian treatment in holding figures like Chansley in prolonged solitary confinement without any apparent justification.
We knew Chansley was not shown engaging in violence or property destruction. The footage, however, showed Chansley walking through one of the doors with hundreds of others but escorted through the Capitol by a couple of officers.
The officials appear to be assisting him in gaining access to internal areas.
He walks past a dozen armed officers who do not try to stop him. He even appears to thank the officers for their assistance.
It’s not clear if the defense had access to all of these videotapes. Regardless, these tapes are in sharp contrast to what was presented in court.
The Justice Department portrayed Chansley as a violent offender. Prosecutor Kimberly Paschall played videos to show Chansley yelling along with the crowd. “That is not peaceful,” she insisted.
In his sentence, Judge Royce Lamberth noted, “He made himself the image of the riot, didn’t he? For good or bad, he made himself the very image of this whole event.”
I have great respect for Lamberth, but the sentence was hard to justify, particularly when compared with other defendants.
A Navy veteran, Chansley had no prior criminal record and pleaded guilty. He stood before Lamberth and implored that there was “a lot of bad juju that I never meant to create.”
Yet none of those mitigating factors seemed to count for much.
I agree with Lamberth that Chansley and others warrant longer than average sentences due to this attack on our constitutional process. However, Chansley seems to have a unique “aggravating factor” in his sentencing for “iconic costuming.”
An out-of-work actor, Chansley instantly became a sensation by appearing in his animal headdress, horns and red-white-and-blue face paint.
Had he merely worn a MAGA hat and chinos, he would likely have been given a fraction of this sentence.
Chansley did not appear to be a leader of any group that day as he wandered about the Capitol. The only people with him were often two attending and remarkably attentive Capitol police officers.
On the Senate floor, he is described as “chanting an unintelligible mantra” before leaving.
Chansley reaffirms the old expression among defense attorneys: “One day on the cover of Time, next day doing time.” That is a price that comes from being a celebrity shaman.
Once again, Chansley and any rioters deserve jail time. What occurred on Jan. 6 was a disgrace that has caused a lasting wound for this nation.
But making Chansley an example because he was the most visible is dangerously detached from his underlying conduct.
I have no particular sympathy for Chansley, but I do have concerns for the system that sentenced him.
In the end, justice has to remain blind. In this case, that means focusing on the crime rather than the costume.
Navy veteran Chansley is as much a patsy as the Army veteran who tried to slit Lee Zeldin’s throat..
S. Meyer, as usual you don’t know what you are talking about. Chansley pleaded guilty and acknowledged what he did was wrong. The tapes wouldn’t have helped him one bit. He dropped a plea deal which would have gone to trial and resulted in a much longer sentence. Did you know that? If he didn’t plead guilty he would have been sentenced to 20 years In prison. His crimes were felonies 6 were dropped and pleading guilty to one landed him with 41 months. If you don’t believe me. Then read this.
https://www.npr.org/2021/11/17/1056225488/self-styled-qanon-shaman-is-sentenced-to-41-months-in-capitol-riot
Svelaz: thank you for directly responding to Turley’s alleged “heavy concerns” about Chansley’s sentence. Turley, as usual, finds some way to spin the facts according to the dictates of the Fox narrative of attacking the Jan 6th Committee hearings as “unfair”–all to try to defend the fat one who belongs in prison. Turley, somehow, curiously ignored the email in which Tucker Carlson said he hated Trump with a passion. As to whether the officers were “helping” Chansely, anyone looking at this fool would know that he’s seriously mentally ill–his appearance alone was a tip-off, including the headdress he was wearing and the way he brayed like a bull elk and spouted unintelligible nonsens. He was carrying some item that could be used as a weapon, too. Police officers are trained not to confront someone who has obvious mental problems and who is behaving calmly because if they are confronted, they might snap and hurt themselves or others, so to the extent that officers are “escorting” Chansley, it was not to help him invade our Capitol, nor does it mitigate his behavior. Turley doesn’t explain just HOW the footage takes away Chansley’s guilt. Someone who is mentally ill is not necessarily innocent of a criminal offense if their mental illnes isn’t the cause of their behavior. Chansley had the benefit of counsel and admitted what he did was wrong. The cherry-picked video does not change the fundamental fact that he deliberately invaded the Capitol, disrupted the business of Congress, rifled through desks and papers, and he knew it was wrong. But, Fox pays Turley a lot of money to spin the facts, and that’s all he’s done here today.
Gigi – he did not “invade” the Capitol, which is a public building; instead, he was permitted to walk in and was escorted around the ground floor like a guest. He was not carrying a “weapon”. If the tip of his flag was a weapon, then the Capitol grounds must be covered in weapons, including the House chambers. If the police really believed he was “seriously mentally ill”, they should not have let him in. Based on the videos, the only crime he may have committed was a misdemeanor trespass for entering the Senate chambers. Even in that case, he may have been directed therein by the police.
Edwardmahl: He had to have breached the police barricades and gone in through either a broken window or broken door to be inside the Capitol. The police did NOT “let him in”–another Fox lie. NO ONE who crossed the police barricades or entered through a broken window or door had any business being in the Capitol. The police were watching a crazy man, only to avoid inciting him, which is standard protocol when confronted with an obvious lunatic. He was NOT “directed” by the police–they were with him because of his obvious mental derangement–to keep an eye on him. The Chief of the Capitol Police has made clear that none of the MAGA loser who invaded the Capitol had any right to be there.
Did you hear this or actually take time to watch the video ? I don’t think you watched ! Kavanaugh Breach 129 Dems & Libs arrested . Fine was $50.
If the barricades were down, and a door open, and no one was blocking the door, and no “no entry” sign posted, I question that this would be a trespass. After all, it is a public buiilding. When Kavanaugh had hearings on his nomination, his vocal and “interfereing” opponents had no trouble gaining entry to the Capitol. In any event, I concede he could have been guilty of trespass, which is a misdemenaor. but he was charged with interferenece with a government proceeding, a felony; nothing in the tapes shown by Carlson supports interference with a government proceeding. It appears that the House and Senate had been deserted. It is true that he entered the Senate chamber, but the tapes show that police directed there, and he thanked the police for doing so. As to your repeated attempts to say that the police were just “watching a crazy man” or “keeping an eye” on him, in line with some “standard protocol”, I suggest that they were not doing their job if they thought he was actually tresassing or interfering with a public proceeding. Being crazy does not immunize someone from arrest.
“I’m just a patsy.”
– Lee Harvey Oswald
<iS. Meyer, as usual you don’t know what you are talking about. Chansley pleaded guilty and acknowledged what he did was wrong. The tapes wouldn’t have helped him one bit.
And today he would have filed a plea to toss the conviction and due to a mistrial. The Goverment denied the defense all Brady material. He would be turned loose pending a new trial.
He pleaded guilty. There was no trial and cannot be a mistrial, though his lawyer can try to have the conviction vacated.
False. There are very few reasons that can be used to set aside a guilty plea, but the failure of Defense Counsel to secure exculpatory evidence prior to sentencing is one of those. Misconduct by the government is also one.
As I said: his lawyer can try to have the conviction vacated. Nothing I wrote was false.
Sometimes in a short sentence nothing you write is false, but nothing you write represents the truth. You hide behind ambiguity and wasted words along with your anonymous persona.
There is no video that could ever exonerate Chansley–he admitted he trespassed, rifled through papers and committed the other crimes. Turley is paid to stir the pot and add credence to the Fox (fake) News lineup of liars, of which he is one.
There is no video that could ever exonerate Chansley–he admitted he trespassed, rifled through papers and committed the other crimes.
Prosecutorial misconduct vacates the sentence. Constitutional rights trump evidence.
GiGi – the issue is not trespass or “rifling papers” (I did not know this was a crime) The issue is whether there is a factual basis for “interfering with a federal proceeding and whether exculpatory evidence was not produced.
“There is no video that could ever exonerate Chansley”
Looks pretty exonerated to me.
“he admitted he trespassed”
Not relevant – innocent people confess all the time.
We have been over that.
Some states have laws that do not allow convictions based on confessions alone.
“rifled through papers”
What is the federal crime of riffling through papers ?
And what is your evidence of this ?
“and committed the other crimes.”
Please cite the section of the federal criminal code for “other crimes”.
“Turley is paid to stir the pot and add credence to the Fox (fake) News lineup of liars, of which he is one.”
Just as MSNBC hosts, and Democratic Senators.
Everyone gets paid for something.
That is meaningless.
Sam Adams “stirred the pot”, as did Patrick Henry, and all of our founders.
Your narrative is falling apart in front of you.
That is occuring because of your own mistakes. You spun the truth, you hid everything that contradicted your narrative.
Now you are dealing with the consequences of what you hid coming to light.
Sunlight is the best disinfectant.
The nation would be better off it those in power left and right would tell the truth from the start.
Whether it is that Benghazi was a planned terorist attack – i.e. Romney was right and you knew it.
Or that Trump did not collude with Russia, but Clinton did.
Had you been truthful about J6 from the start you would have had less of a club to beat your oponents with – but you would not be subject to the backlash of being caught AGAIN lying.
This list of lies and secrets, and things you seek to keep hidden is so long.
A Brady violation would be a basis for withdrawing the guilty plea.
True but Kavanaugh breach & the video of him doing no wrong being escorted show he was not an enormous threat . Kavanaugh Breach 129+ Dems & Libs arrested $50. Fine !! Horn Guy got 3+ years! Not EQUAL JUSTICE!! Easy web search : Kavanaugh Breach Amy & fines
The depth of discipleship created by Fox (fake) News is literally breathtaking. Beginning with the fat hog who cheated his way into office and how those facts got spun into lies, which the disciples still defend, continuing with his utter failures as a leader, his lies about the seriousness of COVID and pushing fake cures like Hydroxychloroquine, all of which the disciples still defend, his fomenting of an insurrection based on a Big Lie, which the disciples still defend, to now, defending the dumbaxx losers who invaded the Capitol and committed crimes in the name of the fat narcissisitc hog who just won’t stop lying or go away. Now, lunatics like Chansley and the other losers who plotted to invade the Capitol to try to keep the pig in power are, somehow, “victims”. You have the loser who calls himself “Speaker of the House”, who gave exclusive access of sensitive video surveillance to a news outlet proven to spread lies even they don’t believe, to cherry-pick a few scenes in which there’s no violence, as if to imply that this proves no crimes were committed and that, somehow, there’s a “truth” that was kept from the public, all of which the dumbaxx disciples believe. And, now, you have their legal “expert” lap dog, who sold his credentials in a vain effort to make these lies seem credible. There’s no video that could be produced that could change the fundamental facts about Chansley–he crossed police barricades, entered the Capitol through a broken door or window, rifled papers and desecrated our Capitol. It was an insurrection. He admitted his fault, and no video can change these facts. He had no right to be there or do what he did.
TCM showed “All the President’s Men” the other night, and it reminded me of the reason for Fox (fake) News. The daily reports and information gathered and reported by the Washigton Post eventually brought down Nixon. Republicans believed that if there had been some alternative news source to push back against the revelations of Woodward and Bernstein and to attack them personally and the truths they uncovered and the witnesses who gave them information, they could have kept Nixon in power longer, and that’s the reason Fox (fake) News came into being–to counter the truth about Republicans and their lies because, over time, Republicans continue to represent fewer and fewer Americans. Republicans in Congress represent less than 40% of Americans, but, thanks to gerrymandering, their power is outsized. This is just wrong.
Gigi = What have you ever been right about ?
“The depth of discipleship created by Fox (fake) News is literally breathtaking.”
The top 14 of 15 News shows – MSNBC debuts at 15.
I beleive the top 23 of 25 shows – CNN debuts at 25.
Absolutley – people increasingly trust Fox.
Why ? Because CNN and MSNBC and NYT and WaPo and … have repeatedly been caught in lies – and now we have another one.
“Beginning with the fat hog who cheated his way into office”
I thought denying the results of an election was a crime ?
“his lies about the seriousness of COVID and pushing fake cures like Hydroxychloroquine,”
Here is left journalists point out that all of you left wing nuts have Lied to everyone about Covid.
https://youtu.be/PsFToyijzls
HCQ ia not dangerous and may work. The vaccine is dangerous and does not work. There is now data showing the more frequently you have been vaccinated, the more likely you are to get Covid.
“all of which the disciples still defend”
Lots of people – including Trump have been wrong about Covid.
Those on the left continue to be wrong.
Trump is responsible for delivering a vaccine in record time.
That vaccine ultimately proved insufficient. But for good or Bad – Trump delivered it – not Biden.
“his fomenting of an insurrection”
No insurection – that is the point.
I Need New Conspiracy Theories Because My Old Ones Came True
” invaded the Capitol”
You can not invade the capitol it is a public building.
Closing it without closing congress violates the first amendment.
“committed crimes”
Then provide proof that ALL the country will accept – not a biased DC jury fed a cherry picked version of events.
“in the name of the fat narcissisitc hog”
All politicians are narcissists.
I though fat shaming was verbotten on the left ?
“who just won’t stop lying or go away.”
Why should he – according to Harris he has a 5pt lead on Biden.
” who plotted to invade the Capitol”
No evidence of any plot – even DOJ’s star witness just denied that under oath.
“to try to keep the pig in power”
A world without the mess Biden has made – think of it.
“You have the loser who calls himself “Speaker of the House””
No, he is the speaker of the house – he was elected speaker.
“who gave exclusive access of sensitive video surveillance to a news outlet”
He should have just made it public.
I beleive he has comitted to making it available to other networks.
Again – he should just make it public.
We do not need Fox, or CNN or MSNBC to currate this for us.
“to cherry-pick a few scenes in which there’s no violence”
The entire time Chamsley was in the Capitol is not cherry picking.
Regardless, those “cherry picked scenes prove your narative was a LIE.
“if to imply that this proves no crimes were committed and that, somehow, there’s a “truth” that was kept from the public”
Of course there was – that is self evident – YOU own that part of the story.
From Bill Clinton through the present the MO of Democrats has been to delay the truth as long as possible.
How long did it take for Clinton to admit that he had sex with Lewinsky ?
How long did it take to find out that Benghazi was a Terrorist attack and Obama knew it ?
How long did it take to find out that the collusion delusion was a collection of Clinton HOAXS ?
How long did it take to find out that Hunter Biden’s laptop was not “russian disinformation” ?
We will never likely know the truth about the 2020 election – Because AGAIN those like you have thwarted and refused all inquiry.
We are now learning the truth of J6.
It was less violent BY FAR than the Antifa Attack in Atlanta on Sunday – the one Biden does not even know about.
“There’s no video that could be produced that could change the fundamental facts about Chansley–he crossed police barricades, entered the Capitol through a broken door or window, rifled papers and desecrated our Capitol.”
We all know that absolutely nothing can change your mind about ANYTHING – and that is the point.
But peoples minds are being changed – just not yours.
“It was an insurrection.”
Hillary’s Collusion Delusion was a coup.
This was not an insurection.
A bunch of ex-cops and ex-military showing up atg the Capitol without firearms is not an insurection.
“He admitted his fault” Thousands of people have gone to jail for false confessions.
Every person – over 1000 on the exonerated list confessed.
“and no video can change these facts.”
The video speaks for itself.
” He had no right to be there or do what he did.”
Pray in the senate ?
“TCM showed “All the President’s Men” the other night, and it reminded me of the reason for Fox (fake) News. The daily reports and information gathered and reported by the Washigton Post eventually brought down Nixon.”
Actually aparently new evidence suggests the CIA brought down Nixon for threatening to go public with their role in the Kennedy Assassination.
Regardless, no one is defending Nixon. You should not be defending Biden or the J6 committee or the FBI or the DOJ.
“Republicans believed that if there had been some alternative news source to push back against the revelations of Woodward and Bernstein and to attack them personally and the truths they uncovered and the witnesses who gave them information, they could have kept Nixon in power longer”
Nixon resigned because Republica congressmen and Senators told him he would be impeached.
Because Republicans with integrity participated in the investigations.
Where are the democrats who investigated the collusion delusion ? The Hunter Biden laptop ?
The claims of election fraud ? Actually investigated the Truth regarding J6.
Follow the Truth – wherever it leads – actually investigate – even things you do not beleive.
And listen to the actual results.
You need help.
Your pretence regarding my life is your problem.
I can take care of myself and have been doing fine.
If you are as fortunate to have a life as good as mine – I commend you.
If you have had the misfortune to experience the many and often great problems I have had to overcome – I have sympathy for you.
Though I doubt either.
Your posts are emblematic of one with no consequential experience with either actual good or real evil in life.
I would suggest that before you try to fix the problems you imagine that I have, that you look to your own life.
I do not know you or your life – but unless you have managed your own life half as well as I have, which I doubt.
You have no business telling others how to run theirs.
My posts here do not tell you or anyone else how to run their own lives.
I focus on keeping medlying busybodies like yourself out of my life and that of others.
“You can’t even run your own life, I’l be Damned if you’ll run mine”
As he said,”Gigi = What have you ever been right about ?”
Poor Svelaz,
NPR isn’t your best friend at the moment. They kinda blew their credibility.
But to your point… he was guilty of impeding Congress.
However… even here you have more evidence in terms of testimony and other video footage that calls to question of what happened and what forced Congress to stop their electoral college vote ratification. Can you say Ray Epps?
The issue is if he got a fair trial. The mere fact that exculpatory evidence wasn’t shared meant that the state didn’t offer the plea deal in good faith.
Less on this guy, but other who were charged and those who are still awaiting trial now have a better chance at a fair trial.
Turley points out the felony count, however… would he have gotten such a harsh sentence?
No.
And if he didn’t take the plea… this evidence would have made the prosecutions case all the much harder that even if found guilty… 20yrs wouldn’t be even considered.
Svelaz – there were no “crimes” before he pled guilty. Your comment assumes the government would have been able to prove its case on its numerous charges. It is strategy of prosecutors to overcharge in order to terrorize the defendant into pleading. The last thing a prosecutor wants is to try a jury trial, even when the deck is stacked in his/her favor. Even if a prosecutor prevails on all charges, there is usually a long appeal.
Where did NPR prove any of the things you say?
NPR didn’t but your ignorance didn’t let you notice.
I’d previously said that the video had been turned over to Chansley, based on a statement by Politico reporter Kyle Cheney. It appears that Cheney’s source was wrong, and therefore I was wrong too:
“Albert Watkins, Chansley’s attorney through sentencing in November 2021, said he had been provided many hours of video by prosecutors, but not the footage which Carlson aired Monday night. He said he had not seen video of Chansley walking through Capitol hallways with multiple Capitol Police officers. … It was not clear whether the prosecutors had seen everything which was released to Carlson, or what, specifically, they had turned over to Watkins. Carlson said his team spent three weeks reviewing 41,000 hours of surveillance video, which House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) said he released to Carlson. A spokeswoman for the U.S. attorney’s office did not immediately comment.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/03/07/capitol-police-tucker-carlson-footage/
A big part of the issue is that Brady requires the DOJ to turn over exculpatory evidence in its possession, but the full set of videos were in the possession of the USCP, not the DOJ. Seems like this is something that reporters need to address more fully.
Three weeks to review 41,000 hours of video? I smell BS. 41,000 hours of is the equivalent of 1708 days. How many people were reviewing them? How are these being reviewed? By people sitting in front of a monitor or is some sort of computer program? Because reviewing 41,000 hours of video in only 3 weeks is not possible.
Even you you had a dozen people reviewing these videos 24/7 there’s no way they could have reviewed all of it within 3 weeks.
I don’t assume that they reviewed all 41,000 hours of tape, and of course they can review it on fast-forward to help them identify the subset they want to focus on, so there’s no reason to assume that it would take 41,000 person-hours to review. Regardless, it’s still a problem that it appears Congress/the USCP didn’t turn over all of the video that might have been relevant to all J6 defendants’ cases. And I try to be truthful, so when I become aware that I’ve said something false, I acknowledge it.
41,000 hours of video? I smell BS.
For the mentally challenged, maybe. But A bright 10 year old would have the defendant tell him exactly the path taken and the time fame.
Start with what we know. The Senate Camera taking in the speakers desk.
Now the kid has a time, and the defendant gives me a route.
In two hours the 10 year old has every second of video involving the defendant.
I know, your handlers gave you the 41,000 hours, so you assumed it was relevant. (its not)
“41,000 hours of video? I smell BS.
For the mentally challenged, maybe.”
Has someone claimed that the eniterty of 41,000 has been reviewed ?
I would not that if Tucker had 100 people working on this and they were playing the video at double speed all fo which is reasonable – then yes he could have. But that is not the point.
I expect Tucker will run J6 highlights periodically for many months.
Prepare fo rmuch more.
“But A bright 10 year old would have the defendant tell him exactly the path taken and the time fame.”
It is often difficult parsing what you are saying. Regardless I think you have apoint – just not one that is good for you.
Contra your claims – J6 defendants have been claiming they were peaceful and that they had peaceful encounters with the CP,
and that there should be evidence of that. They have near certainly told their defense attorney’s the approximate route they took and when.
Further DOJ has been using Geofencing to locate Defendants within the capitol during the protests – you know the Stuff you called bogus when TTV Geofenced people stuffing ballot boxes in 2020. Regardless it is likely possible to find evidence of when each defendant was when – and to go through the video and track each defendant every moment in the Capitol and likely even on the outside.
Yet DOJ did not do that. Nor did they provide the Defense with the video of their time in the Capitol – video that Defandants and their attorney’s asked fo r- and mostly did NOT receive.
So it is absolutely possible with respect to every single defendant to completely track their movements within the capitol on J6.
It is possible to know whether they broke in or where let in. Whether they were peaceful or not, whether they were a threat to representatives, or not.
Yet, that not only was not done – but DOJ, the CP, the courts, and YOU conspired to make sure prior to this that was NOT done.
Another right wing conspiracy theory proved true.
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“Start with what we know. The Senate Camera taking in the speakers desk.
Now the kid has a time, and the defendant gives me a route.
In two hours the 10 year old has every second of video involving the defendant.”
Are you capable of expressing what you are saying such that someone can understand it ?
Regardless, I absolutely agree with what I think you are saying – that it is simple to get every second of video on each and every J6 defendant.
It is probably even possible to mostly automate the task.
The problem – your problem is that was not done – until now and only so far with Chamsley. And that is not showing Chamsley committing a crime. OOPS
“Further DOJ has been using Geofencing to locate Defendants within the capitol during the protests – you know the Stuff you called bogus when TTV Geofenced people stuffing ballot boxes in 2020.”
Geofencing only helps spotting an individual’s location. Not their actions. I called evidence that they stuffed ballots bogus since there was only evidence that people were around the area. Not actually stuffing ballots.
Tucker is a verified liar. The fact that he has zero credibility has not helped him with this biased stunt.
Chansley is on video committing multiple crimes. He pushed his way in with the first 30 rioters and kept encouraging them. Here’s what Tucker left out.
https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/case-multi-defendant/file/1430996/download
He was disobeying law enforcement officers and proceeded to unlawfully enter the building. That in itself was a crime.
“Geofencing only helps spotting an individual’s location. Not their actions.”
Correct – +-3ft.
But going from a Democrat affiliated 501C3 paid for by Zuckerberg to to 10-30 ballot boxes during the we hours of the night is an ACTION.
Absolute proof of election fraud ? No.
More than enough to get convicted of a crime in much of the US – absolutely.
My wife recently defended a client that through location tracking was placed within 1000 ft of a 3 separate crimes on 3 separate days – he lived within 1000 ft of the crime.
He was convicted and that was the primary evidence.
1000ft – not 3 ft.
3 crimes – not 10-30.
We convict people based on where they are at all the time.
“I called evidence that they stuffed ballots bogus since there was only evidence that people were around the area. Not actually stuffing ballots.”
The Geofencing places someone at a place and time.
As with J6 that can then be combined with video from that place and time – thousands of hours of security camera video on ballot boxes – and lo and behold – when the Geofencing data says unknown party X is at this Ballot Box – Video fromt he same time show a person stuffing a dozen ballots into the box.
I would further note that Pattern evidence is admissible in court. show that a person traveled to 10-30 ballot boxes(geofencing), and then show that at 2-3 (because we do not have video for most ballot boxes) they were stuffing a dozen or more ballots in the box – that is proof of election fraud.
All that you need to convict is for Apple or google to provide the name of the Cell phone owner, and to verify that the owner is the person in the video.
Further that is also more than enough to get warrants for the financial and other records of the 501C3’s and to start interviewing the staff.
TTV could not do any of this – they are not law enforcement.
When they tried to go to prosecutors – they were told they would not touch this because the Bar was threatening to disbar any attorney who brough an election fraud claim.
Right now – YOU are trying to go after the AZ AG – despite the fact that the AZ audit found a great deal to investigate.
We know that almost 50K ballots were cast by 13K people.
Regardless once again The effort of the left was
SUPRESSING inquiry.
Many of us – aparently a majority conclude that there was likely fraud – specifically because you choose in all instances to suppress investigation.
The duty to gain the public trust in elections rests with government – not the people, not the losing party.
It is not enough that you trust the outcome.
Nearly everyone must.
We do not have to like it.
But if and only i it was done such that fraud is not possible. we must trust it.
But againj – EVERYTHING regarding you and the left is about HIDING what government is up to.
Particularly when that is absolutely all of our business.
“Tucker is a verified liar. The fact that he has zero credibility has not helped him with this biased stunt.”
I do not know about Tucker – but YOU are a verified liar.
“Chansley is on video committing multiple crimes.”
Then list them and provide the video.
“He pushed his way in with the first 30 rioters and kept encouraging them.”
If the door was opened – not a crime.
” Here’s what Tucker left out.
https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/case-multi-defendant/file/1430996/download”
Why am I to beleive DOJ – they are the ones who violated brady ?
“Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive!”
Sir Walter Scott
“He was disobeying law enforcement officers”
Not a crime.
“and proceeded to unlawfully enter the building.”
Doors opened from the inside – not outside – not a crime.
“That in itself was a crime.”
Nope.
I would further note that Defiant Tresspass is a petty misdemeanor.
Ordinary Tresspass – what Chamsley MIGHT have committed is a summary offence – like a traffic ticket.
Add to that that The capitol can not constitutionally be closed to the public when conducting business and you have nothing.
You keep saying you have proof – but the proof you offer is from the same people who were just caught lying.
You have not proven your claims – and even your own claims – petty misdemeanor or summary offence – traffic ticket.
It is not Tuckers job to prosecute Chalmsley.
It is Tuckers job to catch government lying
It is also MSNBC’s job and NYT’s job.
Why weren’t they doing that ?
Your free to attempt to prove Tucker is a verifiable liar.
But so far all you have done is lie some more yourself, or offer as proof actual verified liars.
Again – as even Turley notes – DOJ had a duty to provide this evidence to Chamsley.
They did not – that i9s Unethical, that is lying by omission.
Tucker is NOT obligated to tell all sides of a story – though he often does.
He has no duty to choose to feature what you want him too.
DOJ had a duty to provide Brady material to Chamsley.
They did not. That is LYING, it is unethical.
We have seen alot of that from DOJ over the past couple of years.
DOJ – like you, are a verified LIAR,
Therefore they are not a credible source.
I would further note – as with the DVS case – you confuse allegations with facts.
Sorry, thought I was responding to Svelaz.
Regardless, you are correct, it is pretty easy to track any individual through the entire capitol if there is the slightest bit of organization to the video.
It is pretty trivial to pick a person and follow that one person through the capitol – it probably can be done in about 4 times real time.
So if Chamsley was in the Capitol for 2 hours it would take one person hours to track him completely – as an estimate.
Senator Schumer’s niece AMY : KAVANAUGH BREACH : 129+ arrested . Quick web search shows “FINE WAS $50. !! Granted they like Horn Guy walked around! But he’s serving 3+ YEARS!! Kavanaugh Breach was mostly Dems & Liberals! Still no security added!
“Three weeks to review 41,000 hours of video? I smell BS. 41,000 hours of is the equivalent of 1708 days.”
It is easy to see how your brain couldn’t figure out what happened. There are many ways this was done, but I don’t think they completely viewed all the hours. In some cases they traced certain people and events. That doesn’t take that long and that is what you saw on TV. I am sure they are still viewing the tapes, but it would be best for all the video to be released to the public who can look for themselves trying to trace individuals arrested.
You don’t like the idea of transparency because it shows you to be a liar. Those arguing against you don’t worry about transparency because they are looking for the truth.
. It appears that Cheney’s source was wrong, and therefore I was wrong too:
More likely lied to advance the preferred narrative. Cheney will not reveal his source. Which should be standard journalistic standard, after being made a fool. Unless of course the reporter was OK with the lie.
Lots of us have been paying attention for the last ~7 years and have learned through experience the media’s use of unnamed sources to drive the assigned narrative, is standard operating procedure.
Agreed. The problem with Turley’s theory is that nothing on any video is EXCULPATORY. Chansley crossed a police barricade, entered through either a broken window or door. He wasn’t a visitor. He admitted to his conduct and that it was illegal.
Agreed. The problem with Turley’s theory is that nothing on any video is EXCULPATORY.
Irrelevant to the constitutional duty of the Government to provide ALL evidence they know of, to the Defendant. A failure of the Garland DoJ prosecuting Jan 6 defendants.
It’s common to enter a building through a door.
Then you would have video of that. Please provide.
You do not seem to grasp that the left and YOU specifically have constantly made claims that are just plain bogus.
You have no credibility. There is no reason to trust you.
I would note that BLM protestors crossed over police barricades and went through broken shop windows and had charges dropped.
Lawyers in NYC Firebombed a police car and got probation.
The double standard by the left is incredible.
BTW crossing a police baricade and climbing through a window is a Petty misdemeanor according to federal law.
Your “visitor” claim only makes your argument worse.
The capitol is the “peoples house” – if Pelosi allowed visitor’s then the building was open tot he public and no one was tresspassing.
But the bigger problem is that Congress either needed to be open to the public or not in session.
The federal government may not conduct OUR business, safe from public scrutiny or protest.
Again people admit to illegal conduct that they did not do all the time.
Nearly every one of the 100+ people on the “exonerated list” – people convicted of crimes who subsequently were PROVEN actually innocent.
The innocense project does not take cases over legal technicalities. They only take cases of people they beleive did not committ the crime.
You do not get on the exoneration list because there is reasonable doubt. You get on that list when it is absolutely proven that you did not committ the crime.
And nearly every person on the exonerated list confessed.
I would think those of you on the left would actually be familiar with the myriads of ways in which law enforcement convicts innocent people.
” Cheney’s source was wrong, and therefore I was wrong too:”
Cheney was already caught in deception and there were great questions about the data she provided. One can always find a stooge who will provide you a lie and then you can feel good that you lied based on another’s error. That is what you and so many liberals have been doing down the chain, lying and quoting your own lies. That is why you quote the Washington Post on every major issue that turns out to be a lie. But your quotes were frequently based on anonymous reports which could have been your own.
You cannot be trusted.
“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”
– George Orwell in “1984”, Part 1, Chapter 7
Behold Merrick Garland, a discredited AG, a failed SCOTUS nominee, has been Judge, now a Nazi Biden apparatchik, lying and shaking with his voice trembling, all at the same time. They fear Americans
Among the many smears of Tucker Carlson’s reporting is the false allegation of “cherry picking.”
Cherry picking is the fallacy of ignoring evidence that does not support one’s desired conclusion. If I present evidence about, say, how the public is being manipulated about what happened on J6, that is *not* cherry picking. That is evidence in support of my conclusion.
Further, the fact is that Carlson (and other Fox hosts) have shown countless videos of those who did riot on J6. (And they condemned those rioters.) The irony, of course, is that the J6 propaganda hearings did cherry pick and did doctor videos.
Carlson’s first two episodes were journalism as it ought to be. The MSM’s and sundry politicians’ real complaint is: How dare you do journalism?! Don’t you know that journalism is just a propaganda vehicle?
Sam, Tucker Carlson is cherry picking. He’s already known as a prolific liar. It’’s clear he is intent on whitewashing jan 6. Because it was really that bad.
We already know he’s been lying for a while and the latest filings from Dominion show him to be exactly what everyone else accuses him of. Even republicans are criticizing his edited narrative. Those republicans were there and they KNOW Tucker is spewing BS. Defending a liar is bad enough. You’re defending him for doing exactly what you accuse the J6 committee of. The cognitive dissonance is amazing.
Svelaz – have you ever written a comment not using the words “liar” or “Fox” or “Trump”? Is it possible you’re paid to constantly associate these words?
Was January 6th worse than may 29, 2020?
Well said Sam!
The Democrats have regressed to a primeval state in which they will sacrifice anything for power. We are in a Lord of the Flies moment, and most people are oblivious to that fact. But the Democrats aren’t just out for raw power. They have an agenda — they need power to impose the WEF’s draconian “green” agenda on the nation. “Green” sounds progressive, but don’t be fooled — it’s all about deprivation of the many so the few can live comfortably. To that end, all protections and trappings of civilization for the masses have to be dismantled, including police, courts, education and health care. If you don’t know what the former Soviet states went through during the 1990s as they transitioned from communism to capitalism, check it out. It was a decade of horror where families were prostituting their children for a loaf of bread, while the oligarchs got fatter and fatter. And it can happen here.
It’s getting harder and harder to discuss the democrat party without referring to Lord of the Flies, Animal Farm or 1984. Maybe we should start calling them the Dystopiocrats.
Adm. Denton is an American hero. Had Chansley and other Jan. 6th defendants learned Morse code, they too could explain why they would plead guilty.
GOP Senators condemn Carlson’s misleading depiction:
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/3888363-mcconnell-says-fox-news-made-a-mistake-by-underplaying-violence-of-jan-6/
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/bulls-gop-senators-rebuke-tucker-carlson-downplaying-jan-6-mostly-peac-rcna73764
. . and Speaker McCarthy then rebuked (not “condemned”) Sen. McConnell.
For the most part Tucker showed the video. You, who believes in show trials, think that is wrong. He also showed how the MSM manipulated the available videos and what they said. Tucker gave fair time to everyone, something the MSM doesn’t do.
ATS, you have no credibility.
Anonymous (S. Meyer), clearly you have no idea what you are talking about. There were no “show trials”. All the J6 committee did was present evidence. The videos they showed are have not been manipulated. They showed the violence and that is not even disputed by Tucker Carlson. He just dismisses it out of hand because he wants to deny that it happened.
Svelaz – didn’t they make a criminal referral to the DOJ?
” All the J6 committee did was present evidence. The videos they showed are have not been manipulated.”
Where did the sound come from.
Svelaz responds: “Duh”
“They showed the violence “
Can you place names with the presumed violence?
Svelaz: “No.”
Why not?
Svelaz: “Duh”
Your quotes represent the answers that you cannot provide. They are a directed replica of what you would say just like the J6 films were directed fiction to create a false images.
“Once again, Chansley [. . .] deserve[s] jail time.” (JT)
I don’t see even that.
Isn’t his defense “entrapment by estoppel?”
Disclaimer: I am not an attorney.
“Entrapment by estoppel applies when an official tells a defendant that certain conduct is legal and the defendant believes that official.”
https://casetext.com/analysis/entrapment-by-estoppel
According to you, what official told Chansley that his actions were legal?
Now the Stalinist says that individuals have to prove their innocence.
What is wrong with ATS’s head?
Allan / S. Meyer’s daily insults, example #1,025.
He has nothing but ad hom.
Look at how long it took you not to understand that Jan 6 and the government didn’t provide all the tapes to the defendants. You wanted them jailed despite exculpatory information withheld from their attorneys.
ATS, you are not to be trusted.You are a Stalinist type and that is the Truth. Everything you do points in that direction.
The escort into the chamber by the police maybe? So Pelosi could get a good photo-op to justify this miscarriage of Justice? Meanwhile she had a pre-planned documentary going by her daughter. When they turned down extra security, ya think maybe they were hoping for as much chaos as possible for their 2024 chances?
Birmingham – if he was trepassing (as he probably was) he should have been led out of the building, instead of being allowed (and assisted) to wander around the building.
As a former LEO, I am greatly concerned that this man was even found guilty of any crime. Given the just revealed video of his escort by USCPD, it is hard to imagine that a LEO assisting his access would not warrant an immediate appeal and release pending outcome of the appeal. I will not comment on any other cases that have been adjudicated or are pending, but this case is clearly compromised! Mr. Turley you should have some empathy for how this case was handled and the exculpatory evidence that was/is withheld.
As a former LEO, you should also know that there are certain procedures they must follow during events like they were in.
Arresting him among the mob while every around them was a potential attacker and no backup would be a bad idea. The best thing they could do is keep him in sight. The appearance that he was being “escorted” is just that, an appearance.
Given the fact that LEOS were being assaulted and injured it would be incredibly stupid to try to arrest anyone when they had no backup and were among a hostile crowd.
Then there’s the admission of guilt. He openly admitted that he was wrong about participating in the insurrection.
As never having been an LEO, Svelaz should know better than to impose his own tainted opinion on others as being factual.
Svelaz – there was never a mob around him in these tapes. The appropriate response was to escort him out of the building, whicih would have been easier than escorting him around the building (“keeping an eye” on him). He never showed any signs of resistance or hostility to the police.
Do not trust your own eyes and common sense. You must believe the narrative of the Uniparty Left,
Do not trust your own eyes and common sense. You must believe Big Brother. He cares for you.
Turley– “What occurred on Jan. 6 was a disgrace that has caused a lasting wound for this nation.”
+++
Nope. The greater wound was the government’s withholding obvious Brady material from defendants and the government’s trying to make a Reichstag Fire out of this to grab more power to attack anyone who disagrees with it. Stalin and Hitler would have liked the Jan 6 Committee.
Do you think that if the crowd had been BLM and had done real damage that the government and media wouldn’t be praising it as “This is Democracy!” We have seen these deceits too often.
I wonder who is really in charge? Clearly not the demented man from Delaware.
It’s too bad that McCarthy felt it was appropriate to give the footage to Carlson. Unfortunately some Fox personalities like Tucker are as allergic to the facts as are the average CNN anchors. This could have been handled as it should have been in the first place, with a bi-partisan investigation that addressed the facto os the Jan 6 incident rather than a fiasco that was performed by Pelosi and company. However, McCarthy is running so scared that he panders to the flakes in the House so as to try to keep his scepter.
flakes in the house? That reminds me, whatever happened to jeff flake? He’s not in the house anymore, where’d he go?
Man the warmongers and pro-fentanyl crowd are out in force today, this revealing of evidence is not making certain folks happy, is it?
Bear in mind, Deadarmadillo is full of shite.
“The committee sacrificed its legitimacy by putting on hearings that often sounded more like a show trial than an objective congressional inquiry. ”
If we recall our history, what did we call the Stalin trials? Show trials. Thus fascist animals that followed Stalin and Hitler were responsible for the deaths of millions, and we have wannabee fascist animals here on the blog.
“Chansley was given a 41-month sentence for “obstructing a federal proceeding.”
“Antifa member who took an axe to a member’s office in Fargo, ND, was later given probation … and his axe back.”
Where is the Rule of Law? Some of the fascist animals on the blog, like ATS, can’t see the problem.
“It’s not clear if the defense had access to all of these videotapes.”
ATS lied earlier saying the defense had access to the videotapes.
“none of those mitigating factors seemed to count for much.”
Democrats wanted show trials like Stalin.
S. Meyer, Turley agreed with the sentence he was given.
“I agree with Lamberth that Chansley and others warrant longer than average sentences due to this attack on our constitutional process.”
41 months is longer than average. Turley is saying that you’re wrong.
Chansley’s attorney didn’t have access to the tapes.
Turley and I do not disagree as to guilt, nor do we disagree as to the relative sentences placed against Chansley or Antifa activists and the like such as the one that used an ax on the door while Kavanaugh was being approved as a Supreme Court Judge.
The question is based on the mitigating factors Chansley should not have received such a high sentence, and that Chansley was denied due process because he was denied access to the videos. Then there is a question whether or not Chansley should be guilty of criminal trespass.
You make things up as you go along so I won’t go any further in discussing facts with you. Instead, I will continue telling you what you are instead
If Turley reviewed your comments he would call you a fool.
SM
S. Meyer, Turley agreed with the sentence he was given.
Illiterate and innumerate
Turley;
“I have great respect for Lamberth, but the sentence was hard to justify, particularly when compared with other defendants.”
You get the simple stuff wrong, and yet claim expertise is all fields of endeavor.
Svelaz, you are a liar. The quote was: “I agree with Lamberth that Chansley and others warrant longer than average sentences due to this attack on our constitutional process. However, Chansley seems to have a unique “aggravating factor” in his sentencing for “iconic costuming.”
Here and elsewhere Turley disagrees with your interpretation of what he says. Why a person with such poor reading skills and low IQ wishes to read Turley’s mind and the minds of others makes one think you are a simpleton.
Each day, it is becoming clearer and clearer that the Democrats wanted to use the occasion of the Trump rally to provoke what happened at the Capitol. They ignored or buried intel received days and even weeks before suggesting unrest at the Capitol. The Speaker, responsible for security, ignored warnings. The J6 Committee was a joke. Now we are beginning to see the truth and the truth is also exposing tyrants like Chuck Schumer declaring the videos must be suppressed. Why? We paid for them and we have a right to see what happened that day in OUR House. The Republicans are in line to take the White House next year and regardless of whomever wins – DeSantis or Trump – he should issue a full pardon to the rioters on Day One not because what they did was acceptable but, instead, because what the Department of Justice, FBI, and Washington judiciary did was clearly and unambiguously unacceptable. The old axiom that it is better that a hundred guilty go free than one innocent person be imprisoned must prevail.
Don’t forget the Uniparty idiots like McConnell and Miss Lindsay. Miss Lindsay wanted the protesters shot.
Lindsay is a warmongering POS. He should be sent to Ukraine.
McConnell is simply terrible.
JJC,
Right.
Ignoring the warnings, the intel, not sharing that intel with other agencies, refusing to accept the offer of NG troops for additional security, seems pretty incompetent. All of this could of been avoided easily.
Every single person that was part of the attempted Coup deserves to be put to death. That is what happens when attempted coups fail. Anything less than a death sentence is mercy. If you are so stupid that you think that just because some leader gives a rambling speech about how the election was stolen with no proof, then you attempt to keep that person in power by stopping, killing, or whatever the plan was that day. That is an attempted coup. In 1776 when the founders of our country started their coup, they knew they were signing their death warrant when they put their name to the Declaration of Independence. Fortunate for them, and us, they did not fail, their attempted coup turned into the United States. On Jan 6, 2021 there was an attempted coup to keep baby trump in power after he lost the election. They failed. sorry, zero sympathy for those that “only” got 41 months prison. Death was the proper punishment for an insurrection.
King George III has weighed in
Is my opinion worth less than anyone else’s? What do you call it when a crowd tries to keep a person in power that lost an election?
The left has completely lost its sense of humor. Remember when they were the funny ones?
What do you call it when the intelligence arm of the government subverts the will of the people via propaganda? What do you call it when that arm also infiltrates a peaceful demonstration and turns it into a riot? Hang on, you’re gonna find out…
Is my opinion worth less than anyone else’s?
Yes, it ignores facts, the rule of law, and abandons Constitutional protections.
It is worth zero.
Iowan2,
That right there.
And calling for the death of American citizens for a protest that went badly.
It was not a coup.
It was not an insurrection.
They were trying to keep trump in office who had just lost. What do you call it?
Following the constitution.
You say Trump lost – how do you know that ?
In the entire US 3 counties conducted an actual audit of the election – all found problems – mostly not the ones Trump complained about – but lots of problems. The AZ audit found strong indicia of Fraud.
Regardless, there was very little inquiry and no transparency.
This was not the most secure election ever it was the worst run election in over a century.
The courts burried their heads in the sand.
The refused to even look.
Much of what occured took place in the dead of night in secret without election observers.
Regardless, if you can not be bothered to vote in person on election day – your vote should not count – in 38 states mailn voting violates the state constitution. but the left and democrats do not care about the law or constitution.
If you want people to beleive Biden won – then do not bend or break the rules at every chance.
Do not lie, do not cheat, do not violate peoples rights. Do not have government attempt to tip the scales.
If you want people to beleive the results of an election all you have to do is conduct an election people can beleve.
YOU FAILED, and that is what J6 is all about.
Congress was the last constitutional means to correct that. Those protesting were throwing a hail mary.
A LEGAL AND CONSTITUIONAL ONE.
And idiots like you try to make that a crime.
Hillary tried – and succeeded in getting electors to change their votes.
She tried to get congress to refuse to certify – Trump’s plan came from Hillary’s lawyer – Lawerence Tribe.
Why is Hillary walking free – she tried to overturn an election ?
Everything you do not like is not a crime.
Get over it.
This is not Stalin’s USSR – well it was not until recently.
Bill – No, they were protesting out of anger. They wanted their voices heard by the arrogant elite. Walking through the Capitol could not have magically kept Trump in office.
petitioning government – the same as every other protest of government.
Look it up – it is right there in the first amendment as a constitutional right.
There is no orange man bad clause.
Americans are free to petition government for any reason at all.
There is no requirement that you approve of what they ask.
Did you apply the term “coup” to those who perpetrated the Russian collusion hoax?
Legitimate exercise of our constitutional rights – particularly those of the first amendment.
While a majority of americans still beleive that the outcome of the 2020 election was a result of some malfeasance, even if it was only a small minority – they have the right to protest, to demand a new election, to demand that congress refuse to certify.
And they have the right to do it at the capitol.
They have the right to look our representatives in the eye expressing their displease, as those representatives vote.
They have the same rights to protest as BLM, as the civil rights leaders in the past.
Further while they do not have the right to resort to violence – until all peaceful avenues have failed – just as our founders,
“whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends(liberty), it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, ”
The right to use violence to overthrow tyranny is well established.
If you do not want to be on the wrong end of that – back down from tyranny.
When you are using force to impose your will on others – it is highly likely you are engaging in tyranny.
Who exactly was part of the “Coup?” We’re gonna find out soon, hold on and hang tight. What we may find out might make me want to join you in that opinion, but first we need to find out who was part of it and who was simply there.
Or are you referring to the vote harvesters and the fine people counting votes in detroit, philly and AZ? Don’t bite on that, it was a rhetorical question.
How would walking through the Capitol have kept Trump in power?
With LEO escort.
And, does anyone really think a guy with a bison head dress, face paint, walking through the Capitol really stood a chance of overthrowing the government?
Great question which makes a lot of crazies look a bit silly.
I guess Bill wants Hilary to get the capital punishment penalty for what she did. I guess Bill might have an issue with Joe and Hunter and their collusion with the CCP.
Bill, your comment is very worthy…it shows what a violent little fascist you are.
Bill:
Were the patriots of the Revolution armed or unarmed? That would be a big difference, right? Only one person was shot and killed – murdered, really – by an incompetent and scared cop during the protest. The motley crowd of demonstrators and provocateurs that entered the Capitol committed petty crimes: trespassing and the like. Your attempted coup is in your mind only and reflects wishful thinking, not facts. The latter as Cheryl Holmes used to say when her boss was being impeached, are stubborn things.
Do we dig a ditch first, and then shoot them in the head, or better yet, have their family did the ditch, shot the family, and then the defendant on top of them, oh did I say defendant, my bad,I meant non-human scum, a defendant gets a trial.
You sanctimonious sob, when the mob comes for you, before they put you in a ditch, I hope ask God for forgiveness.
I wonder if this person condemns this mob.
https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1479245177248174081
That’s amazing, you say ‘insurrection’ but no one was charged with ‘insurrection’ that I know of.
Was this an insurrection?
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=557112511659819
COUP YOU SAY???
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“We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America.”
– Barack Obama
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“We will stop him.”
– Peter Strzok to FBI paramour Lisa Page
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“[Obama] wants to know everything we’re doing.”
– Lisa Page to FBI paramour Peter Strzok
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“I want to believe the path you threw out for consideration in Andy’s office — that there’s no way he gets elected — but I’m afraid we can’t take that risk It’s like an insurance policy in the unlikely event you die before 40.”
– Peter Strzok to FBI parmour Lisa Page
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– Bill Priestap
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Kevin Clinesmith, Bill Taylor, Eric Ciaramella, Rosenstein, Mueller/Team, Andrew Weissmann,
James Comey, Christopher Wray, McCabe, Strozk, Page, Laycock, Kadzic, Sally Yates,
James Baker, Bruce Ohr, Nellie Ohr, Priestap, Kortan, Campbell, Sir Richard Dearlove,
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Azra Turk, Kerry, Hillary, Huma, Mills, Brennan, Gina Haspel, Clapper, Lerner, Farkas, Power,
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Cody Shear, Victoria Nuland, Ray “Red Hat” Epps, Don Berlin, Kathy Ruemmler, Rodney Joffe,
Paul Vixie, L. Jean Camp, Andrew Whitney et al.
COUP YOU SAY!!!
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– A mere “citizen” could only have been President at the time of the adoption of the Constitution – not after.
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Book 1, Ch. 19
§ 212. Citizens and natives.
“The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.”
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Ben Franklin letter December 9, 1775, thanking Charles Dumas for 3 copies of the Law of Nations:
“…I am much obliged by the kind present you have made us of your edition of Vattel. It came to us in good season, when the circumstances of a rising state make it necessary frequently to consult the law of nations. Accordingly that copy, which I kept, (after depositing one in our own public library here, and sending the other to the College of Massachusetts Bay, as you directed,) has been continually in the hands of the members of our Congress, now sitting, who are much pleased with your notes and preface, and have entertained a high and just esteem for their author…”
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To George Washington from John Jay, 25 July 1787
From John Jay
New York 25 July 1787
Dear Sir
I was this morning honored with your Excellency’s Favor of the 22d
Inst: & immediately delivered the Letter it enclosed to Commodore
Jones, who being detained by Business, did not go in the french Packet,
which sailed Yesterday.
Permit me to hint, whether it would not be wise & seasonable to
provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the
administration of our national Government, and to declare expressly that the Command in chief
of the american army shall not be given to, nor devolved on, any but a natural born Citizen.
Mrs Jay is obliged by your attention, and assures You of her perfect
Esteem & Regard—with similar Sentiments the most cordial and sincere
I remain Dear Sir Your faithful Friend & Servt
John Jay
Wittholding the video was a straight Brady violation.
What’s your evidence that it was withheld from Chansley?
Also, per Brady, the DOJ is compelled to release evidence in its possession. But this was in possession of Congress, not the DOJ, so the DOJ couldn’t compel its release. USCP did turn over virtually all of the video between 12-8pm on Jan. 6, creating a huge database for the defendants.
ATS is sealioning again.
Watkins makes it clear as Chansley’s attorney, he did not have access to those tapes and is willing to testify so. You are a liar ATS. You make things up hoping no one can prove you wrong.
“The footage was not received by us,” said Watkins, who added he maintained copious records. “It was a right taken away from Jake. How can I put what the options are if I don’t know what evidence the government has.”
“The court has to be upset,” Watkins said, referring to U.S. District Judge Royce Lamberth, who imposed the sentence. “The government tried to portray him as a leader, leading the charge, threatening, an imposing person with a flag and flagpole, inciting others, when clearly this [video) is demonstrative of quite to the contrary.
“I hope everyone, everyone, realizes this damages all of as Americans, not just Jake. This ruins it for everyone.”
My illustrious Senior Senator from North Carolina, Thom Tillis (R-NC), joined with Chuck Schumer in denouncing Tucker Carlson and FOX for airing the unedited government made and owned video from January 6th.
Why would two Senators show such contempt for the First Amendment in such a public and disgusting fashion and be allowed to get away with it?
Tillis is sleazy…..and Schumer is embarrassingly morally bereft of any sense of ethical conduct.
As long as we see such weasels in Congress we are doomed to fail in any hope of improving the State of the Nation.
The Shaman is guilty of the mortal Sin….embarrassing the political elite.
You think it not a mortal Sin…..consider the case of Ashley Babbitt who was murdered that day.
Yes…..murdered.
Why was she the only person shot by Police that day out of the many that entered the Building?
She was unarmed…and a Police SWAT Team was within arms reach of her when she was shot in the neck.
You want to see what a double standard of justice is all about….January 6th and the aftermath is the clearest demonstration there has been of that.
How many times do we have to prove the abuses of the Federal Government and its complicity with the Main Stream Media before we see real reform take place.
Better question is “who” will perform that reform and in what manner will it be done?
She was shot while attempting to crawl through a broken window into the House of Representatives chamber while a crown was changing kill mike pence and where’s Pelosi. No Not murder, it was her stupidity that killed her when she tried to keep baby trump in power. That is the price of a failed coup, death.
Can I get you on record for you pricing of participating in and/or with a successful coup.
Ralph Chappell, that is the question: How will reform be achieved? Many of us have lost faith in the integrity of the election process. I am open to suggestions. Here in New York State, it doesn’t feel like a representative government.
I agree.This seems a strangely staged process by the J6 committee and the justice department. The reaction by Chuck Shumer is also strangely virulent. There is something here we are missing. I would suspect that the Democrats wanted this all covered over until the election of 2024 when they planned to spring much of this doctored filming on any Republican candidate. Particularly Trump. It is always nice to have a weapon that you have access to that the other side does not. Forewarned is forearmed. Now we need all the testimony that was taken in secrecy spread before the public. Trying to lock it up in the archives for 50 years is not going to fly. I suspect that those files, archives or not, otherwise would make a sudden appearance in 2024 probably as an October surprise. Got to think about the long game here.
Show trial, absolutely. Star Chamber might even be a better description. About the only thing the J6 committee lacked was the Queen of Hearts on a throne above it all yelling “Off with his head”.
Maybe that’s what Liz Cheney wanted to say. 😂
You should be sympathetic to Chansley. You and your friends and family are just as susceptible to the propaganda that drove him to this. Also, you are finding yourself on the wrong side of the Regime more and more frequently. It could just be a matter of time before you are “canceled”.