I have columns out today on the release of the long-awaited report from John Durham on the Russian collusion investigation, including on the new Messenger site. However, I wanted to post the report itself below. As expected, it is a scathing indictment of the Clinton campaign, the FBI, and the media for one of the most successful political hit jobs in history.
The report shreds the FBI and Justice Department for abandoning standards and ignoring the lack of evidence to launch and prolong the investigation. The report notes that the treatment of the unsubstantiated allegations in the Steele Dossier, funded by the Clinton Campaign, was “markedly different” from the government’s level of interest in Clinton’s campaign when it faced such allegations.
Durham’s report confirmed that the FBI ignored intelligence it received from “a trusted foreign source pointing to a Clinton campaign plan to vilify Trump by tying him to Vladimir Putin so as to divert attention from her own concerns relating to her use of a private email server.”
Durham noted that “The speed and manner in which the FBI opened and investigated Crossfire Hurricane during the presidential election season based on raw, unanalyzed, and uncorroborated intelligence also reflected a noticeable departure from how it approached prior matters involving possible attempted foreign election interference plans aimed at the Clinton campaign.”
The FBI issued a statement on Monday:
“The conduct in 2016 and 2017 that Special Counsel Durham examined was the reason that current FBI leadership already implemented dozens of corrective actions, which have now been in place for some time. Had those reforms been in place in 2016, the missteps identified in the report could have been prevented. This report reinforces the importance of ensuring the FBI continues to do its work with the rigor, objectivity, and professionalism the American people deserve and rightly expect.”
The quarterback gets the credit for the win and the blame for the loss.
“Susan Rice’s email exposes Team Obama’s ‘by the book’ treachery”
The [Susan Rice] e-mail recounts a meeting on Jan. 5, 2017, where top officials discuss the monitoring of incoming National Security Adviser Michael Flynn’s conversations with the Russian ambassador. Though FBI Director James Comey says Flynn hasn’t revealed any secrets, he worries about how often the two have spoken. President Obama asks if they should withhold information from Flynn. “Potentially,” Comey replies.
The beauty of the e-mail is also its puzzle. Oddly, Rice puts Obama and Vice President Joe Biden in the middle of a scam, places acting Attorney General Sally Yates at the scene and implicates J. Edgar Comey.
By doing all that, Rice inadvertently confirms that a deep state will be more loyal to the former president than the new one. Resistance, leaks and ultimately impeachment will be the poisoned fruit of that cabal.
Still, the central question about the letter has always been why. Why, on her last day at work as Obama’s national security adviser, would Rice feel the need to put down in writing what happened at an Oval Office meeting 15 days earlier?
Part of the answer has been obvious since the e-mail first surfaced more than two years ago. Three times, Rice wrote that Obama used the phrase “by the book” to describe his instructions, a clear effort to create a narrative that Obama did nothing wrong.
That view is buttressed by a belated statement from Rice’s office Wednesday that she wrote the memo at the suggestion of Obama’s White House counsel, Neil Eggleston. His job was to protect the president, which the memo aims to do.
But the move is so clumsy and patently obvious that it not only fails to protect the president, it actually raises more serious questions about his conduct. Remember, this is the only time where Obama is documented discussing the investigation into Flynn or any other part of the 2016 anti-Trump effort, meaning it is proof he knew about it.
That he already knew means there must have been other, earlier discussions involving him. Let’s hear about those, too. Are there more memos?
And why was Obama’s White House counsel so concerned about the need to protect him? What did Obama do that his lawyer, on the last day of his presidency, was worried about?
It’s also not clear why the section was classified until Tuesday where Rice quoted Comey as saying he had concerns about sharing intelligence information about Russia with Flynn. Given what we’ve learned in the last three years about the grand scheme of things, that section is less important than the fact that the meeting was in the Oval Office and Obama and Biden were there.
– Michael Goodwin
“Rice inadvertently confirms that a deep state will be more loyal to the former president than the new one.”
No, she doesn’t.
Obama was not the former President at the time. He was the current President, and Flynn intervened re: the country’s response to Russian interference. A reminder: Trump fired Flynn because Flynn lied to Pence about Flynn’s conversations with the Russian ambassador. Both Pence and Trump spoke about Flynn’s lies.
Did I just read you right?
“Withhold information from Flynn (i.e. Trump).”
“By doing all that, Rice inadvertently confirms that a deep state will be more loyal to the former president [Obama] than the new one [Trump].”
It will take time for those who have been unquestioningly loyal to a political party that has gradually evolved to hide its nondemocratic practices behind formally democratic institutions and procedures. Until now the disturbing trends in the Democrat Party have been kept subtle so as not to be appreciably noticed by the party’s rank and file. The inattentive and imprudent among the rank and file have never been a reason for the illiberal leaders of the party to be concerned. However, the conscientious and the prudent have always been a concern and reason for illiberal party leaders to be stealthy.
And then came the Durham Report with a broadside hit to the very center of the Democrat Party and the statists who lead and serve it. Treason to the Republic and democracy has taken on another look, and this time it is actual and real. The inattentive and imprudent among the rank and file are likely not yet awake to it and likely may never be, but the conscientious and the prudent are and that will not bode well for the statists of the Democrat Party who intend to continue their course toward even more illiberalism and nondemocratic practices.
Ron A. Hoffman, the report was nothing more than a rehashed version of the original IG report. Even Steve Bannon is calling it a clown show and a failure.
“Former Trump chief strategist Steve Bannon tore into Special Counsel John Durham on Tuesday over his failure to secure any major criminal convictions during his four-year probe of the FBI’s Russia investigation, describing Durham’s final report as an “epic failure.”
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/even-steve-bannon-blasts-clown-show-john-durham-s-epic-failure/ar-AA1bgSiT?cvid=bc71493cdd454f12bcea1ff7572bf8c0&ei=7
The report was a pile of complaints that have already been addressed. It’s four years too late and nothing to show for it.
If you think the reaction from trump supporters are crazy now, wait till the report comes out from “My Pillow Guy” comes out.
It was more than that, but not enough. There should have been convictions.
But as late as it is, it shows Trump was Totally Vindicated.
It also shows that you were wrong on almost every issue, and when pointed out, you acted stupidly. It tells the blog that nothing you say is credible and that you should be ignored or insulted for your behavior.
Svelaz, you are forever labeled as a defective intellectual failure.
Anonymous coward: The pig has never been vindicated by anything. He cheated in 2016, proven by a Republican Senate Committee investigation and Mueller. Trump refused to cooperate with Mueller’s investigation, which did yield dozens of criminal convictions, including that of Flynn, whom the pig plans on “reinstating”. The Durham investigation was a big, fat, waste of time and taxpayer money. Two criminal cases ended up with acquittals. The FBI was not out to get him. If there were flaws in the investigation, so be it, but Trump’s campaign DID collude with Russians to help him cheat in 2016 because it was the only way he could “win”. They strategically used the deeply-flawed Electoral College system to defeat the will of the American people, all based on lies spread by Russians, who knew they couldn’t manipulate Hillary Clinton like they could Trump, who was looking to build a project in Moscow, and who also has had financial dealings with Russian oligarchs..
“ther should have been convictions”–of whom and for what crimes? The pig is the one who is being investigated for election related crimes and for paying off a porn actress.
Consistent with the lack of intellectual integrity on the alt-right media upon which you rely and the failure you worship, when you cannot come up with any facts or a cogent argument, you attack the person who points out inconvenient truths.
Natacha, or do you prefer Gigi. Who are you calling a coward?
“proven by a Republican Senate Committee investigation and Mueller.”
But Mueller found nothing on Trump, and the Republican Senate Committee provided with more knowledge rejected some of the things they said then.
You are looking in the rearview mirror, where all you can see are your misconceptions. You have been wrong on everything before, in the present, and for the trifecta, you wish to be wrong in the future.
There is nothing anyone can do with you. You distort your facts, and your mental acuity is insufficient to provide an opinion. What good are you? Go mop up the toilet.
NUTCHACHACHA prefers NUTCHACHACHA.
NUTCHACHACHA’s “truth” is “free stuff” and “free status.”
Government MUST make her wealthy and government MUST make her a real person.
“From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs.”
– Karl Marx (NUTCHACHACHA’s BFF)
It reveals nothing about Svelaz we did not already know and have proof in spades.
Yet Every day we will have more posts from Svelaz and a few other left wing nuts making claims that have been disproven thousands of times.
Or claiming lack of evidence when there is mountains of evidence.
Svelaz, when I wrote “the inattentive and imprudent among the rank and file”, you should have known I was all too mindful of you and your cronies. Half-witted trolls never fail to disappoint.
Do not make a mistake claiming Steve Bannon as another light in your deepest darkest troll cave, although I for one certainly welcome you to him. It appears his only negative with the Durham Report is that none of your leaders are to be hung. John Durham is a respectable man, and now it seems a quite decent one as well. His concern, as it is with all conscientious and prudent persons, is for the leadership of the DOJ and FBI to meaningfully mend their errant ways and return to serving the Republic and not one political party or the other.
Not sure why my reply to Svelaz shows as from Anonymous, but I’m okay with it. Prudent minds are always in sync.
While you are correct that it is a Dudd.
It is only a Dudd because those like you think that conduct just short of treason – actual sedition, insurection, illegal conduct, unconstitutional conduct are all perfectly acceptable – so long as they are in service to your politics.
The most damning thing about the Durham report is that it is a Dudd – that so many like you Do not care about the unbeleivable misconduct.
Nixon had to create the Plumbers to do his dirty work – because the DOJ/CIA/FBI/IRS refused to do this kind of stuff for him.
But they did so for Obama/Biden while in office – including spying on journalists and Senators.
And they did so for Obama/Bideon out of office – spying on the president, as well as sabataging government because they did not like the p0resident
and finally actively using US government power to influence US elections.
You are too stupid to understand that the danger of Foreign govenrments interfering in our elections is TINY compared to OUR government interfering in our elections.
Absolutely there is little we did not already know in the Durham Report – though most of it is things you have spent years calling lies and rightwing conspiracy theories.
Before you pretended they were false.
Now you ignore malfeasance – because even though YOU called it false before – now it is old news.
It is old news of serious immoral, unconstitutional and illegal conduct that you repeatedly claimed did not happen.
The FBI.DOJ claim they have already addressed this – as evidence by thei even more egregious conduct under Biden.
Spying on the catholic church. Parents, Retaliating against Whistleblowers, Lying under oath. Obstructing congress, ignoring subpeonas.
Censoring political speech they do not like. Opening myriads of political investigations.
This is the evidence they DID NOT correct the problems Durham and Horowitz found.
And that you will not even admit exist.
You are not a moral or ethical person – and that distinguishes you not at all from the rest of the left.
If those like you continue to hold power – the country will fail.
Good comments, Ron Hoffman! Do you have any ideas for facilitating an enlightenment among the I inattentive?
Because they are complacent with whatever it is that rolls them to and fro, the inattentive can only be brought along gradually. It will never be an abrupt awakening but with their conscientious and prudent brethren hopefully soon coming to terms with the reality that the Republic is not being kept, it’s just a matter of time before the tide turns. The inattentive will always just keep rolling, but this time they will be brought along in a much improved and needed direction.
Without Remorse isn’t just a Clancy novel.
“Missteps” denotes non-intentional error. That is not what this is. What this is is a RICO case.
Baby ‘missteps’, at that. Mere ‘political talking points’. Fait accompli.
Dear Chairman Durbin, Chairman Jordan, Senator Graham and Representative Nadler
Pursuant to 28 C.F.R. 600.9(a)(3) I write to inform you that Special Counsel John Durham has concluded his investigation.
Special Counsel regulations require that I provide you instances of the fait accompli @ exhibit a.) president Joe Biden. No hard feelings. Arrangements can be made for review of classified appendix.
Sincerely,
Merrick Garland
Jonathan: The John Durham over 300 page report has landed, as did his two trials, with a big thud. Another dud. A big nothing burger with extra orange sauce! Durham’s investigation started as an attempt by Trump and Bill Barr to weaponize the DOJ to go after Trump’s political enemies–the Clinton campaign. And it failed miserably!
In his tome Durham spends a lot of time discussing Michael Sussmann (pages 256-300) Durham says “the Office identified certain statements that Michael Sussmann made to the FBI and the CIA that the investigation revealed were false”. But Durham couldn’t prove any of his allegations during the Sussman trial. Sussmann was found not guilty! As was the other defendant. So Durham batted 0 for 2 in the only two trials his 4 yr investigation prosecuted. A dismal outcome for any serious prosecutor. And Durham admits in his report he could find no one else to prosecute.
This is in stark contrast to the Robert Mueller investigation which you and other right-wing pundits attacked. Mueller indicted and got convictions against 34 people–including Paul Manafort, Michael Flynn, George Papadopoulos, Rick Gates and Roger Stone. Stone was found guilty on all seven counts, including lying to Congress, tampering with a witness and obstruction. And Trump pardoned 15 charged and convicted of serious crimes!
Despite Durham’s dismal attempt to rewrite the factual record and his empty handed prosecutions, Jake Tapper at CNN has his own spin. He said the Durham investigation “to a degree exonerates Donald Trump”. Bizarre but not unexpected from CNN that wants to be another right-wing alternative to Fox.. And your take? You say the Durham report is a “scathing indictment of the Clinton campaign, the FBI, and the media for one of the most successful hit jobs in history”. Apparently, we read two different Durham reports. The one I read shows none of what you claim!
Dennis McIntyre, your right. The big big thud that you hear is the Democratic party and you falling to the floor. The big thud nothing burger that you hear is Jake Tapper of CNN saying Trump was right when he said that RussiaGate was a huge hoax. The big thud is the sound made when you throw the facts in the garbage can when you write your comments. Being so oblivious to reality can only be explained by the distinct possibility that you are protecting or fishing for a job in the Biden Administration. No one is so blind to reality unless a monetary advantage is at stake. Cha Ching.
So now Dennis McIntyre says that CNN is a right wing tool. Dennis, this is the same CNN that you quoted for years. Jake Tapper has at least, unlike you, showing some remorse for having perpetrated the Big Lie. Now that he has done so you turn on a dime and say that CNN wants to a be right wing news outlet. Don’t you understand that when you write that CNN wants to become a right wing news outlet that people are laughing at you. I guess with fair weather friends like you CNN doesn’t need enemies. Thanks for the joke of the day.
I remain skeptical regarding CNN, But there is some evidence that they MIGHT out of self interest be attempting to actually report the news – rather than what the left or right wants.
I hope that occurs, I hope that CNN returns to actual journalism.
CNN is likely doing so because their survival depends on it. The left is just not consequently enough to sustain a left wing media.
Are you Adam Schiff or Peter Strozk? Because only someone of that ilk could say Durham’s report was a big dud. You have promoted the Russia/Trump collusion allegation since its beginning and discounted any evidence showing it wasn’t true every step of the way. Unless you are one of parties or a democrat-paid troll, every American is outraged at the complete betrayal of our federal investigative agencies and their media mouthpieces. Ignorant, paid troll, or guilty party. Pick one and claim it with pride.
DM is correct – the Durham report is a dudd.
Not because the material covered is not incredibly damaging and serious.
But because so many on the left do not care that the FBI/DOJ violated procedures, the law and the constitution in an effort to remove a legal government that they did not like.
That the Durham report is a Dudd is very disturbing. That shows that too many of us are so far into ends justifies the means immorality that we can not hope to govern ourselves.
You do understand that the Durham Report concludes – what most of us have known for years – that the Mueller investigation was unconstitutional ?
So You are proud that Durham unconstitutionally went after people – almost entirely for nonsense crimes that mostly amount to pissing him off for hbis unconstitutional investigation ?
Most of of Muellers prosecutions would have suffered the Same fate as Durhams -= had they not taken place in the most politically corrupt and left wing parts of the country.
Do you really think that Mueller would have been able to convict Papadoulis for a minor error in stating the date in interviews with the FBI lasting over 80 hours ?
You seem proud of the Stone conviction – for crimes that NEVER HAPPENED, or for failure to recall exculpatory emails when testifying before congress ?
The norm BTW for testimony before congress is that witnesses are allowed to review and correct their testimony.
Stone asked for but never received the transcript of his own testimony and therefore was never able to determine he had made an inconsequential misstatement and and correct it.
Then We have Paul Manafort who was convicted of tax evasion – despite having resolved his tax issues with the IRS previously.
Of FARA violations – despite the fact that Manafort engaged in ZERO lobbying for foreign powers – MAnafort hired Tony Podesta – also unregistered to do the lobbying. Yet Mueller did not go after Podesta. For wiotness tampering – because Manafort asked a person NOT on the governments witness list if they would testify for him. And finally for Money laundering – by claiming that Manafort had violated FARA, Mueller was then able to criminalize all Manaforts financial transactions involved in brokering Podesta’s firm to lobby for foreign governments.
This is your idea of successful prosecutions ?
Mueller indicted a Russian business in NYC and was flabergasted when they actually chose to defend themselves in court – where Mueller LOST Baddly.
An NYC Judge told Mueller to put up or shut up – that he would not allow the case to go to trial and threatened Mueller with sanctions if he continued to leak allegations to the press that he had offered no evidence of to the court.
The only Russian Mueller convicted was a college student who might have been having a good time with NRA top Brass. After locking her up in Solitary for 18months Mueller got her to plead guilty in order to go home.
This is stuff you are proud of ?
There is good reason that the Durham report is damning of Mueller.
Mueller was as the British say “Bent” – he was corrupt. Nor was that new.
Mueller had a long and dubious record before this. It was Muellers FBI that persecuted Richard Jewel.
There is Evidence that Mueller’s protection of organized Crime fiures got other people killed.
Mueller thoroughly Botched the Anthrax letters investigation TWICE, and even the National Science Foundation thinks he blew a key aspect of the investigation in FALSELY concluding the Anthrax came from Ft. Dietrick.
The Durham report is only a Dudd, because w all KNOW all the Damning evidence in it.
The question is why werent those involved prosecuted and convicted years ago ?
Why are they getting away with this ?
DM is this honestly how you want our government to work ?
Do you want Trump when elected to target FBI/IRS whistle blowers ?
Do you want him weaponizing DOJ/FBI/IRS/NSI/CIA/DHS against political enemies ?
Do you want Republicans conducting criminal investigations of democrats with absolutely no basis ?
Do you want Republicans actually censoring the political speech of democrats large scale ?
Do you want the FBI staging SWAT raids on peaceful pro choice protestors ?
Do you want the FBI opening investigation for domestic terrorism into black parents who challenge school boards for not teaching about Lynching’s in the US ?
He does not, but only because it would be Republicans who are doing it.
Another inappropriate and useless investigation and report about something that only exist because we are circumventing the Constitution of the United States to achieve something which goes against all democratic and republican principles upon which the Constitution of the United States is based upon.
Not only was interference precluded by the electoral process established in Article 2 Section 1 of the Constitution of the United States for foreign influence and interference, but it went further to preclude any domestic influence and interference, and is why Hamilton in Federalist #68 said that everyone, including those with objections to other parts of the Constitution, believed the electoral process for President and Vice President (President of the Senate) was well guarded, and Hamilton himself said that if it wasn’t perfect, it was at least excellent.
So maybe we should review Federalist #68 t9 understand why the electoral process was considered well guarded, and to compare what we do today that we call the electoral college with the electoral process established in Article 2 Section 1 of the Constitution of the United States.
For all those who drain to say that Article 2 Section 1 was amended by the 12th amended of the Constitution of the United States, review it again, the only change was that they compelled each elector to indicate on their two ballots which was cast for President and which was cast for Vice President, making it even more difficult to achieve a majority of the electors, and making a tie impossible, because if there is a tie it automatically means no person identified on the aggregate list of electors votes achieved a majority of the electors, regardless of how many electors there are, which would mean that they would have to consider the top 3 persons on the aggregate list for president and the top two persons on the aggregate list for Vice President. A quorum for this process for the States to consider the top candidates on the aggregate list and choose by vote of the States, 1 vote per State, and a majority of all the States is necessary to the choice, is 2/3 of the States who have at least 1 representative present. Remember, the quorum is only to consider the top candidates, the majority consensus is not a majority of the quorum, it’s a majority of all the States, regardless of how many States are present.
Since I know the reluctance to review any parts of the Constitution of the United States or the Federalist Papers, I have included Federalist #68, please review it before you make any ignorant comments, and don’t forget to cite the Constitution of the United States, because if it’s not in the Articles of the Constitution, it doesn’t exist, and you cannot amend the Articles of the Constitution of the United States which should be obvious from the “Bill of Rights” which only amend by addition, and the 12th amendment which only rearranged Article 2 Section 1 while keeping the structure and process established in Article 2 Section 1.
The Federalist 68
The Mode of Electing the President
Hamilton From the New York Packet. Friday, March 14, 1788.
To the People of the State of New York:
THE mode of appointment of the Chief Magistrate of the United States is almost the only part of the system, of any consequence, which has escaped without severe censure, or which has received the slightest mark of approbation from its opponents. The most plausible of these, who has appeared in print, has even deigned to admit that the election of the President is pretty well guarded.[1] I venture somewhat further, and hesitate not to affirm, that if the manner of it be not perfect, it is at least excellent. It unites in an eminent degree all the advantages, the union of which was to be wished for.
It was desirable that the sense of the people should operate in the choice of the person to whom so important a trust was to be confided. This end will be answered by committing the right of making it, not to any preestablished body, but to men chosen by the people for the special purpose, and at the particular conjuncture.
It was equally desirable, that the immediate election should be made by men most capable of analyzing the qualities adapted to the station, and acting under circumstances favorable to deliberation, and to a judicious combination of all the reasons and inducements which were proper to govern their choice. A small number of persons, selected by their fellow-citizens from the general mass, will be most likely to possess the information and discernment requisite to such complicated investigations.
It was also peculiarly desirable to afford as little opportunity as possible to tumult and disorder. This evil was not least to be dreaded in the election of a magistrate, who was to have so important an agency in the administration of the government as the President of the United States. But the precautions which have been so happily concerted in the system under consideration, promise an effectual security against this mischief. The choice of several, to form an intermediate body of electors, will be much less apt to convulse the community with any extraordinary or violent movements, than the choice of one who was himself to be the final object of the public wishes. And as the electors, chosen in each State, are to assemble and vote in the State in which they are chosen, this detached and divided situation will expose them much less to heats and ferments, which might be communicated from them to the people, than if they were all to be convened at one time, in one place.
Nothing was more to be desired than that every practicable obstacle should be opposed to cabal, intrigue, and corruption. These most deadly adversaries of republican government might naturally have been expected to make their approaches from more than one querter, but chiefly from the desire in foreign powers to gain an improper ascendant in our councils. How could they better gratify this, than by raising a creature of their own to the chief magistracy of the Union? But the convention have guarded against all danger of this sort, with the most provident and judicious attention. They have not made the appointment of the President to depend on any preexisting bodies of men, who might be tampered with beforehand to prostitute their votes; but they have referred it in the first instance to an immediate act of the people of America, to be exerted in the choice of persons for the temporary and sole purpose of making the appointment. And they have excluded from eligibility to this trust, all those who from situation might be suspected of too great devotion to the President in office. No senator, representative, or other person holding a place of trust or profit under the United States, can be of the numbers of the electors. Thus without corrupting the body of the people, the immediate agents in the election will at least enter upon the task free from any sinister bias. Their transient existence, and their detached situation, already taken notice of, afford a satisfactory prospect of their continuing so, to the conclusion of it. The business of corruption, when it is to embrace so considerable a number of men, requires time as well as means. Nor would it be found easy suddenly to embark them, dispersed as they would be over thirteen States, in any combinations founded upon motives, which though they could not properly be denominated corrupt, might yet be of a nature to mislead them from their duty.
Another and no less important desideratum was, that the Executive should be independent for his continuance in office on all but the people themselves. He might otherwise be tempted to sacrifice his duty to his complaisance for those whose favor was necessary to the duration of his official consequence. This advantage will also be secured, by making his re-election to depend on a special body of representatives, deputed by the society for the single purpose of making the important choice.
All these advantages will happily combine in the plan devised by the convention; which is, that the people of each State shall choose a number of persons as electors, equal to the number of senators and representatives of such State in the national government, who shall assemble within the State, and vote for some fit person as President. Their votes, thus given, are to be transmitted to the seat of the national government, and the person who may happen to have a majority of the whole number of votes will be the President. But as a majority of the votes might not always happen to centre in one man, and as it might be unsafe to permit less than a majority to be conclusive, it is provided that, in such a contingency, the House of Representatives shall select out of the candidates who shall have the five highest number of votes, the man who in their opinion may be best qualified for the office.
The process of election affords a moral certainty, that the office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications. Talents for low intrigue, and the little arts of popularity, may alone suffice to elevate a man to the first honors in a single State; but it will require other talents, and a different kind of merit, to establish him in the esteem and confidence of the whole Union, or of so considerable a portion of it as would be necessary to make him a successful candidate for the distinguished office of President of the United States. It will not be too strong to say, that there will be a constant probability of seeing the station filled by characters pre-eminent for ability and virtue. And this will be thought no inconsiderable recommendation of the Constitution, by those who are able to estimate the share which the executive in every government must necessarily have in its good or ill administration. Though we cannot acquiesce in the political heresy of the poet who says: “For forms of government let fools contest That which is best administered is best,” yet we may safely pronounce, that the true test of a good government is its aptitude and tendency to produce a good administration.
The Vice-President is to be chosen in the same manner with the President; with this difference, that the Senate is to do, in respect to the former, what is to be done by the House of Representatives, in respect to the latter.
The appointment of an extraordinary person, as Vice-President, has been objected to as superfluous, if not mischievous. It has been alleged, that it would have been preferable to have authorized the Senate to elect out of their own body an officer answering that description. But two considerations seem to justify the ideas of the convention in this respect. One is, that to secure at all times the possibility of a definite resolution of the body, it is necessary that the President should have only a casting vote. And to take the senator of any State from his seat as senator, to place him in that of President of the Senate, would be to exchange, in regard to the State from which he came, a constant for a contingent vote. The other consideration is, that as the Vice-President may occasionally become a substitute for the President, in the supreme executive magistracy, all the reasons which recommend the mode of election prescribed for the one, apply with great if not with equal force to the manner of appointing the other. It is remarkable that in this, as in most other instances, the objection which is made would lie against the constitution of this State. We have a Lieutenant-Governor, chosen by the people at large, who presides in the Senate, and is the constitutional substitute for the Governor, in casualties similar to those which would authorize the Vice-President to exercise the authorities and discharge the duties of the President.
Publius.
I know I’m going to piss some people off. But do any of you get the feeling that this country is nothing but one big fraud. It seems like it’s everything it’s not supposed to be. Most of us are just along for the ride.
Independent Bob,
Not pissed off here.
Seems to me there was at a time when America meant something to be proud of. The America dream was possible. I know. My grandparents did it. They worked hard, saved their money, were very frugal, obeyed the law, and had a health respect for what America afforded them.
What the heck happened?
Was talking to a good friend, former military and LEO, and he said he was not willing to fight for this America. “Let if go (expletive) up!”
I do feel we are getting taken for a ride alright.
That was supposed to be “healthy” and “Let IT go (expletive) up!”
American freedom persisted for a mere 71 years until the “Reign of Terror” of “Crazy Abe” Lincoln who threw the baby out with the bathwater – he threw the Constitution out with reprehensible slavery. Slavery was over and everyone knew it. George Washington released his slaves in his will. Problematic European cotton marketing contributed to the demise of the Confederacy. “Crazy Abe” was pro “labor,” anti “capitalist” and aligned with Karl Marx. Lincoln commenced the insidious incremental implementation of the principles of communism, ultimately, surreptitiously supplanting the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
Dude,
Ask yourself, “what happened to organized crime like we knew it 40 years ago.”
Then look at DC.
“The Report is devastating to the FBI” is nonsense.
It is still the same old FBI…corrupt as ever.
Did ya’ll miss the Report about the Audit of FBI FISA Warrant Process and the high failure rate re its compliance with all of those “new” measures that were promised to end such failures?
They did not perform as advertised and have you seen any report of FBI personnel being disciplined for those failures?
Until a new Director is put in place from outside of the FBI/DOJ career mill….with the mandate from a President to clean house and support from Congress….NOTHING will change.
I see that President being Donald Trump. Who that Director should be…..I am leaning towards General Flynn….and the Attorney General being that Senator from Louisiana…..or Mike Lee from Utah.
Among what to do with all these Corrupt/Treasonous/Evil Govt, Corporate, NGOs intel agencies one of the legs they are using to attack the US’s govt is the ongoing Invasion of our borders today & going forward.
Please Repost Everywhere & keep reposting you’re own reports. There are still White Hats out & working for the same positive pro US National goals.
The interview I’ve been listening to today is about over but it’ll be reposted on the links below on a 24/7 loop.
Fm SF Michael Yon on the Alex Jones
Michael is also on Twitter @Michael Yon
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Further:
The United States of Bed Bath & Beyond
May 16, 2023 | Ben Hunt | 3 Comments | Note
https://www.epsilontheory.com/the-united-states-of-bed-bath-beyond/
J. EDGAR WRAY
The FBI is a global communist, “dictatorship of the proletariat,” Deep Deep State, “Swamp,” anti-Constitution, anti-Bill of Rights rancid cesspool.
The ranks have no excuse for their enduring and indestructible support for the incestuous J. Edgar Hoover “die-nasty.”
The FBI continues its tradition of “shaping” the American government as it did in the case of John F. Kennedy, of whom it had seen quite enough by November 22, 1963.
Christopher Wray was born and raised on the 7th Floor; he was steeped and inculcated there in that “witches brew” of sleaze.
I seen my Congressmen & other in the GOP are pushing ahead with E-Verify for all of the migrants, greencard holders, including the illegal Wet Back Invaders
I’ve been Against E-Verify for many years. Many don’t seem to understand it’s Unconstitutional & offensive to Citizens of the States.
I’m thinking you’ve a better grasp of this issue then I. Last I understood things is that among the other things Lincoln Ph’d up later the Illegal 14th Amd was forced in & as I understand it the 14th moved Citizens from being Citizens of The State they were in to Citizens of The United States. That changed who has the legal authority to what can be demanded of the Citizen.
That the USC is at least a doc of Restriction meant to block what authority/actions the Limited Fed Govt can oversee & regulate.
Point being E-Verify, like Obama Care, etc., further brings every Citizen wishing to work or engage in biz in the US to forced to do so at the pleasure of whomever the last group of corrupt Aholes running DC/State Dept, COG in Co.
Likely not noticed by most is E-Verify is being used to bring in complete Bio-Metric IDs to aid in the Globalist/UN/WEF/WHO complete control everyone’s lives & that Govt Reps lose Authority to the later. Where you can live, Who you can marry, How Kids, Where you can work, Where How you can spend your money, What next Bio-Weapon the Govt can Shoot in your Blood Veins.
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“It is still the same old FBI…corrupt as ever.”
Fire the entire upper echelon that failed to protect the reputation of the FBI when they had a chance. Move all administrative duties to the Marshalls service. End political appointments except where necessary by law. Keep open books to describe how an agent moves to an executive position, including the names of those advising such a more.
Junk the new plans for a new FBI building. It looks like it belongs in a despotic country. Move the FBI around the country to be nearer the people and the crime. Add transparency to the agency and agents. Force the FBI to use tape-recorded interviews.
Remind us again why people who commit treason are no longer shot by a firing squad? To save ammo or because too many people would bring their sling shots for target practice ?
There he goes again, tweeting the Wordle word of the day, probably an unconscious twitch.
We passed “troubling” as an adjective for “questions” long ago. Frightening or terrifying are more accurate ways to describe the questions that have yet to be answered about how we ended up with a state-run media. It’s terrifying to think that there are no consequences for this behavior on the part of our government, the Clinton campaign–including Hilary Clinton–and the MSM.
@Mary
I agree. We needed to pay attention and demand better at least 20 years ago; the signs were there. By and large, for a variety of reasons, we did not collectively care. Not even a little bit. and now, here we are.
For a quick look at the weakness of Durham’s conclusions, see pp 303-305 of the Report. Here he attributes to “confirmation bias” a consistent pattern of disregarding exculpatory evidence as well as failures to corroborate alleged facts or investigate or highlight inconsistencies. The deus ex machina of Durham’s “confirmation bias” theory is an alternative to the far more likely explanation of political bias, of which Durham is aware because he refers to it. A fair reading of the facts in the report leads me to conclude that the FBI sought to destroy Trump for political reasons; they were not psychologically impaired by “confirmation bias.”
Your statement “how we ended up with a state-run media” is really the key statement. Many many years ago I remember reading some article about how the Germans finally had to confront the question after WW2 after it was all over for them … how did we, a country of Bach, Beethoven, Einstein, Goethe, Kant, etc etc etc allow Hitler, etc to happen? The U.S. will only come to appreciating your question after things get much worse. It is just like you can’t help a hopeless alcoholic if they don’t want to be helped. Maybe they will only seek help after they wake up in a gutter someday and can’t remember how thay got there.
“[H]ow did [Germany], a country of . . . Goethe, Kant, etc etc etc allow Hitler, etc to happen?”
“The land of poets and philosophers was brought down by its poets and philosophers.” (Leonard Peikoff, _The Ominous Parallels_).
It was the irrational ideas of Germany’s “poets and philosophers” — a rejection of reason, altruism, collectivism — that led to and ultimately caused Nazi Germany. The very same ideas that have been uprooting American culture for decades.
“The U.S. will only come to appreciating your question after things get much worse.”
Disasters do not change human behavior for the better. Only better ideas do.
It’s agreed by experts on all sides that the former FBI Director James Comey – violating official DOJ policy – played a key part in helping Trump win the first election. Trump almost certainly wouldn’t have won without Comey’s rule breaking.
To avoid electioneering, DOJ and FBI were not allowed to defame Hillary Clinton so close to an election. Many Republicans had no problem when it benefited
Hillary lost because she is a failed wife failed mother failed Senator failed Secty of State failed presidential candidate x 2 and a failed human being. Your supporting her is reminiscent of Walter Duranty defending assassin Joseph Stalin who was a failure of a human being as well
See Duranty defend Stalin in
“MR. JONES”
the movie.
For the DOJ and FBI to arbitrarily and deliberately fail to execute their duty and enforce the law is actionable corruption, sabotage, subversion and dereliction.
Apparently you have not read the Durham report. The Rules Comey broke ALLOWED Clinton to remain in the race.
She should have been indicted.
regardless, with respect to the “october surprise” Comey boxed himself in.
He testified to congress that the investigation was over.
But it was not.
When the Weiner laptop surfaced he was obligated to inform congress.
There was no way around it.
He dilly dallied for nearly a month – delaying dealing with the Weiner laptop.
Regardless, ultimately it was Clinton’s own conduct that cost her the election.
Whether that was wasting effort driving up the popular vote in California rather than campaigning where she needed to.
Or not corrupting the DNC to game a primary that she was going to win no matter what, to try to force Sanders out of the election.
Or violating the law to share classified information with people from her own crew who Obama refused to allow into his executive branch.
Or lying to congress about Benghazi.
Hillary Clinton is a lying POS that has been pulling the strings in nearly every political scandal since Watergate.
You do Know that Hillary is responsible for the original NYT Story on the Biden family corruption in Ukraine ?
Lots of things are being said about Joe Biden – such as that he is the most corrupt president in US history.
But that is only because Clinton LOST.
Comey is pond scum. No one will weep over his demise. But Pretending that But for Comey Clinton would have won is ludicrously stupid.
But for Clinton’s own corruption Clinton might have won.
Why in gods name were 70,000 government emails from Clinton’s accounts on Anthony Weiner’s laptop ?
Comey did not do that. Clitnon removed them from government control,
And Huma Adedin’s laptop was used to backup Clinton’s basement Bathroom email server, and then Weiner used the laptop to send dick pics to underage girls.
There are many bad things Comey did, but this is not one of them.
No one defamed Clinton.
When you are harmed by the truth – that is not defamation.
Nor is DOJ/FBI barred from doing their job – because of an election.
The protocol is that where there is a choice they are not to act publicly in ways that might effect the election.
That means no press conferences, no indictments that can be postponed.
Comey was required to investigate when Weiner’s laptop emerged.
And he was required to notify congress – because otherwise he had lied under oath.
And because congress does oversee the FBI.
A reminder: Crossfire Hurricane was opened because an Australian diplomat reported the George Papadopoulos told him that Russia wanted to help Trump win in 2016. Russia did help Trump win in 2016, and there were multiple connections between people working on the Trump Campaign and Russia (e.g., Manafort passing internal polling data to Russian agent Kilimnik). Russia got what it wanted, which includes sow discording in the United States and undermining public trust in American institutions.
Those bubbles popped a long time ago.
^^^ MSNBC programming not to be confused with the truth ^^^^
The true election interference came from within our own government, not Russia.
Re: A Reminder: The business of Manafort “passing internal polling data to Russian agent Kilimnik” comes from the Senate report mentioned in an earlier comment by Anonymous. The report says: “The Committee was unable to reliably determine why Manafort shared sensitive internal polling data or Campaign strategy with Kilimnik or with whom Kilimnik further shared that information.” But Manafort has said that the data was not “internal” to the Trump campaign but a compilation of published sources. He also has said that the purpose of the disclosure to Kilimnik was to set up future business dealings.
“Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign chairman Paul Manafort told Insider in an exclusive interview that he shared campaign polling data with a suspected Russian intelligence officer to lay out the groundwork for future business dealings for himself and not to help Trump get elected.
“It was meant to show how Clinton was vulnerable,” he told Insider.
He was trying to leverage his connections with Trump to get more money from “pro-Russia oligarchs,” Manafort added.
. . .
Manafort pushed back on the claim that the information was sensitive and told Insider that the data he shared with the business associate “was a combination of public information.”
INSIDER (August 8, 2022) Camila DeChalus, “Paul Manafort told Insider he gave Trump data to Russians to lay the groundwork for future business deals”
It is also not true that “sensitive” polling data is sensitive. Polls had wildly different results in 2016. Some had Clinton way ahead (esp. the MSM polls) and some had Trump slightly ahead (USCL A Times poll). Anyone who read Real Clear Politics could have seen the varying polls. If “Russian Intelligence” is not reading Real Clear Politics, it must really be bad.
Read the report. That’s not what either diplomat said. And when interviewed Downer stated that P said even less than was reported.
Durham’s report confirms what I said: Crossfire Hurricane was opened with the predicate that “‘Mr[.] Papadopoulos … suggested [to Australian diplomats that] the Trump team had received some kind of suggestion from Russia that it could assist this process [of Trump winning the election] with the anonymous release of information during the campaign that would be damaging to Mrs[.] Clinton (and President Obama).’ … The Australian diplomats would later inform the FBI, and subsequently the Office, that the impetus for passing the Paragraph Five information in late-July was the public release by WikiLeaks (on July 22, 2016) of email communications that had been hacked from the DNC servers. … The Paragraph Five information, however, was the sole basis cited by the FBI for opening a full investigation into individuals associated with the ongoing Trump campaign.”
Downer and the other diplomat had different recollections when interviewed 3 years later, but that doesn’t change the predicate for opening Crossfire Hurricane in 2016.
The entire investigation was a fraud before Mueller, as are your reasons for starting the investigation.
If the FBI wasn’t truthful about the events of the investigation then the investigation was fraudulent from the beginning.
You are being dishonest again.
False – again read the Durham report.
A Rumor regarding the communications between Downer and Papadoulis reached the FBI – When the FBI interviewed Downer and Papadoulis they learned the Rumor was false.
Klimnick is a U state department asset.
Regardless, Manafort had no clue that he was an agent, a double agent or possibly even a tripple agent.
Polling data is propritary. It is NOT classified. Regardless anyone who wants – including the Russians can buy it from polling companies throughout the US.
As is typical the left is trying to make something out of nothing.
Russia did not get what it wanted – as we also found out when the spinning stopped – and any intelligent person knew from the start – the CIA is mostly not morons. They KNEW that Putin wanted Clinton – not Trump.
You do not seem to grasp that Danchenko – the person who wrote the Steele Dossier was atleast as likely to be a Russian spy as Klimnick.
Clinton likely ACTUALLY colluded with Russians. Even the story – which ultimately proved false that the information in the Steele Dossier came from Russians – if it had been true – would have been Russian collusion. But in fact the “russian sources” for the Steele Dossier were DNC Staff – except Danchenko.
It is past time when you can get away with lying about any of this without immediately getting caught.
One of the more humorous reveals of the Durham report is when the FBI went to MI6 regarding Downer and Papadoulis and russian collusion – the Brits answered “Are you F#$King crazy”.
And when the FBI asked for help investigating the collusion delusion MI6 say “F#$K no!”
Atleast one intelligence agency in the world is not brain dead.
BTW Carter Page was ACTUALLY a CIA asset – that was ONE of the things the FBI lied to the FISA court.
And as a result of the FBI’s malfeasance, he was publicly outed.
In the Bush admin A special Counsel was appointed and Scooter Libby was prosecuted and convicted for outing a CIA asset.
If you can not keep up with the facts – do not waste everyone else’s time with “debunked left wing nut conspiracy theories”.
Four weeks ago, I was writing in support of a Public Frauds Deterrence Act in regards to how effectively Dominion was able to use Defamation law to confront Trump’s “big lie”.
Two weeks ago, I was arguing how Public Frauds Deterrence is necessary to prevent election interference that Mike Morell and Antony Blinken (and CIA) orchestrated in 2020.
A week ago, I was arguing that AI and deep-fake audio and video threaten the integrity of the 2024 campaign season, and the catastrophic likelihood that deceitful infowarfare will “nudge” the public into a decision when they vote, and the outrage that will explode when the truth is revealed (before Jan 20, 2025 Inauguration). I argued to not try to legislate around a specific technology of deceit, but to broadly go after the problem of deceitful infowarfare for political gain with fast-response torts.
And today, with the organized mendacities laid out by Durham, I humbly ask you to consider pushing Congress to
come together in a bipartisan manner to give the Public the right to sue any actor who attempts political public fraud, and to establish Rapid-Response Public Frauds Court, where juries will rapidly determine issues of fact vs. fiction and assign liability to those to push out whoppers for political gain.
When Madison wrote about “the consent of the governed”, he never imagined that consent be obtained through trickery and deceit. He left to our generation to solve this problem — to save the Republic from purveyors of untruths taking it over.
Public Frauds have been waged by the Bushes, the Clintons, the Obamas, the Trumps and the Bidens. If you “take sides”, you’re saying “I’ll allow my side to lie if it helps us win”. Both parties are preparing to use AI as the latest tool of mass deception. Elections can be tilted by “opinion-shaping” (PsyOps), and until there is a strong deterrence, we can expect campaign operatives and their surrogates in media, tech, CIA/FBI to further hone their craft of con-jobs.
This is the year to act.
You are trying to solve the wrong problem the wrong way.
Weaponizing defamation will not fix anything.
Nor will expediting it. We want the law to move slowly and carefully – not fast and reckless.
Regardless, AS Justice Brandeis noted a century ago the Remedy to bad speech is always more speech not enforced silence.
The danger is not misinformation or disinformation.
It is censorship.
No doubt about it.
Hillary Clinton is the ethics corrupter of the ages.
Trespassing in the Capitol? Seditious conspiracy.
Framing a president for treason? No charges recommended.
This is Biden’s Banana Republic.
Durham was appointed by Barr, who was a Trump appointee. Trump was not framed for treason. The people convicted of seditious conspiracy did more than trespass.
Facts matter.
Yes, Trump was framed for treason.
Obama, Biden, Clinton, the FBI and DOJ, and our intel agencies manufactured a LIE to spy on, to frame, and to destroy Trump’s presidency.
Facts matter.
The seditious conspiracy came straight from Obama’s White House.
All roads lead to Obama, Biden, Hillary.
Barr and Durham were just part of the cover up.
You ——- idiot.
It’s a continuum.
Kevin “The Bumpkin From Bakersfield” McCarthy and “China Mitch” McConnell are there to “herd the cats” and keep ’em all in line – they don’t represent actual Americans, they represent the global communist (liberal, progressive, socialist, democrat, RINO, AINO) Deep Deep State “Swamp.”
The global communist (liberal, progressive, socialist, democrat, RINO, AINO) Deep Deep State “Swamp” has covered all the bases, even before you were born.
Barr was appointed by the global communist (liberal, progressive, socialist, democrat, RINO, AINO) Deep Deep State “Swamp.”
The global communist (liberal, progressive, socialist, democrat, RINO, AINO) Deep Deep State “Swamp” controls appointments through the “advice and consent” of the Senate.
The global communist (liberal, progressive, socialist, democrat, RINO, AINO) Deep Deep State “Swamp” has “appointees” lined up for decades.
Do you really think the Deep Deep State is going to allow the people their rights and freedoms under the Constitution and Bill of Rights?
Not a chance, comrade.
@Anon
You have two different beasts.
1) Group has limited immunity and could be charged, but then you have to consider the fallout.
2) The other group broke the law because they interrupted the joint session of Congress.
That’s the problem.
Now to fix the first group… its going to take centrists who are a-political and can think 4-5 steps ahead.
Not something easy.
But one thing for sure… its an overhaul of DoJ/FBI and the top guys aren’t going to be happy if they lose pensions , security clearances, and ability to practice law. They will become persona non gratis and black listed. Same for certain CIA members.
That will piss a bunch of people off of course.
But then you need to clean up Congress too.
Also need to look at the laws to reduce the influence on some companies in terms of media.
Not an easy task and not a simple task.
-G
“1) Group has limited immunity and could be charged, but then you have to consider the fallout.”
Prosecuting John Brennan and James Comey and putting them both behind bars for a long, long time, would be a good start.
“2) The other group broke the law because they interrupted the joint session of Congress.”
Exposing J6 as a Fed operation, aided and abetted by conspiracies and lies perpetrated on the American people by Pelosi and Schumer, would be a good start.
And we know nothing will ever happen. The deep state will continue its control, sabotage and corruption.
The next president will be installed just as Biden was.
Neither Trump nor Desantis will ever win a presidential election.
That’s the reality.
Yes, the purported insurrection was really more of an interruption, and what was interrupted was Sen. Hawley making formal objections to voting in several states. But he only made one more objection after the session resumed. It was Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer who benefited most from the interruption. Otherwise those hours would’ve been filled with speechification about details of election procedures in various states, as happened in 2004 and 2012.
Congress could today implement a great reform to minimize many of these problems at virtually no cost to taxpayers. Arguably the greatest check & balance on government run amok is the constitutional Oath of Office ratified in 1789 (predating the Bill of Rights). When these agencies were created – from Day One – they were required to pledge supreme loyalty to the U.S. Constitution.
Congress could mandate annual Oath of Office education and training especially for secretive agencies with immense power and little oversight. The Oath of Office empowers subordinate employees to “check & balance” illegal orders from disloyal superiors.
In secret government, proper loyalty is vitally important. America’s supreme loyalty oath is to the constitutional rule of law which protects individual liberties – from gun rights to equal marriage rights. America’s enemies all have loyalty oaths to single persons or single political parties.
America’s Oath of Office is what really makes us great!
Before during and after Trump’s tenure as president, scores of high-ranking officials in the federal government engaged in a treasonous and highly coordinated effort to destroy him and his supporters. With the assistance of people like Durham, who is no fan of Trump, more and more Americans are recognizing this.
Durham did not conclude anything close to “scores of high-ranking officials in the federal government engaged in a treasonous and highly coordinated effort to destroy [Trump] and his supporters.” You’re inventing this out of thin air.
“What’s the key takeaway from Durham report?
Hillary Clinton’s lie that Trump was “Russian asset” went straight to CIA director Brennan (Obama) & FBI to launch smear campaign.
So the FBI/CIA are under full control of Democrats even under GOP admins.”
The implications are far more serious than just that.
It was sedition and those behind it could be charged w treason.
Its not a stretch.
SHOULD be charged, but we ALL know they won’t.
@Anonymous:…subsequent events involving members of the intelligence services questioning the veracity of the Biden laptop renders suggests that he didn’t have to.
“With the assistance of people like Durham ….”
Durham is one of many sources of information about the lies that have been propagated by enemies of Trump since 2016 to help bring about his political demise.
One lie, which was not included in the Durham report, was the organized effort by officials at the White House, the FBI, and multiple federal intelligence agencies to portray the Hunter Biden laptop story as fictitious prior to the 2020 election. To facilitate this effort, 51 former, top intelligence officials signed a letter, at the time, untruthfully giving the impression that Russia was the source of the story.
I see no greater reason for the FBI to be institutionally dismantled. They are beyond saving.
From Jake Tapper at CNN. CNN’s Jake Tapper: Durham Report Is “Devastating To FBI, And To A Degree, It Does Exonerate Donald Trump. Wow, all of a sudden Tapper grows a conscience. For many months there has been factual evidence pointing to the interference in an election by the FBI and Tapper is just now beginning to see the light. Tapper and his leftist friends on this blog have known for a long time that RussiaGate was a hoax. This is what they did to America and it should never be forgotten. They became obsessed with political pornography published by the Clinton Campaign. Despicable is an inadequate description.
TiT,
Watching the various so-called MSM outlets try to spin this as a “nothing burger,” and our leftist friends here on the good professor’s blog it is quite telling of their desperation.
The few of our leftist friend comments that I have read, of course ignoring/scrolling past Sleezevez, ranges from desperation, to fantasy, to absurd.
It is kind fun to watch and laugh!
Evan Perez, Jim Sciutto, Jack Tapper, and Carl Bernstein: “Intel chiefs presented Trump with claims of Russian efforts to compromise him “[1]. “The allegations came, in part, from memos compiled by a former British intelligence operative, whose past work US intelligence officials consider credible.” Intel chiefs were: Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, FBI Director James Comey, CIA Director John Brennan, and NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers.
On 27/6/17, CNN aired “The Russian Connection: Inside the Attack on Democracy”, reported by chief national security correspondent Jim Sciutto (’11-’13: Chief of staff to U.S. Ambassador Gary Locke at the U.S. Embassy in Beijing, China). CNN’s announcement: “The story of Russian hacks targeting the 2016 presidential election from the very beginning to the investigations still underway today and to new fears of Russian attacks on upcoming U.S. elections.”Former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, former Hillary Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta, former national security adviser Tom Donilon and former CIA Moscow Station Chief Steven Hall are among those interviewed for the documentary.
[1] https://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/10/politics/donald-trump-intelligence-report-russia/index.html
I understand your frustration with Tapper,
But each of use is different and some take longer to grasp the truth.
I understood this was garbage in Nov 2016, long before much real evidence was known.
But everyone is not the same.
Most of us find it very hard to disbelieve poor claims that fit into our world view,
or to believe stronger claims that do not.
Turley has repeatedly assumed that things that were highly unlikely to be true were more probable than it was reasonable to conclude.
But slowly overtime, evidence is persuading him.
Tapper has taken longer still. But he still deserves credit for being ahead of most of his peers on the left.
Absolutely you should factor the mountain of evidence necessary to persuade Tapper into evaluations of his credibility and judgement.
But he still deserves credit for eventually reaching SOME of the truth. While many of his colleagues do not.
This is what they did to America and it should never be forgotten.
TiT, I absolutely agree. But if we are honest with ourselves, we know it will happen again. Each time abuses of power are revealed, people are not surprised it happened, they are surprised how much worse it is compared to the last time.
This has been compared with Watergate. However, if this had happened 50 years ago, there would have been multiple people hoping to avoid a life sentence. We had a media that was relatively independent of the government. 50 years later, the government has devoured MSM. Every real government abuse of power is met with a shrug and no effective consequences.
They shouldn’t be surprised how bad things are now. They keep stocking the political pond with ideological piranha, instead of constitutionalists. And when you catch one violating their oath and just release them back into the pond, they grow bigger and bolder.