Below is my column in Fox.com on the poll released last week showing an increasing number of citizens have lost faith in our constitutional system and now view violence as warranted to silence those with opposing views. It is a crisis of faith that represents the greatest possible threat to our Republic. The loss of faith and fealty constitutes one of the greatest crises that our nation has faced since its foundation. Here is the column:
A recent startling poll shows that a majority of voters not only view the opposing party as a threat to the nation but justifying violence to combat their agenda. The poll captures a crisis of faith that I have been writing about for over a decade as an academic and a commentator. Many now question democracy as a sustainable system of government. It represents the single greatest threat to this nation: a citizenry that has lost faith not just with our system of government but with each other.
The polls by the University of Virginia Center for Politics shows a nation at war with itself. Fifty-two percent of Biden supporters say Republicans are now a threat to American life while 47 percent of Trump supporters say the same about Democrats.
Among Biden supporters, 41 percent now believe violence is justified “to stop [Republicans] from achieving their goals.” An almost identical percentage, 38 percent, of Trump supporters now embrace violence to stop Democrats.
Not surprisingly, many of these people have lost faith in democracy. Some 31 percent of Trump supporters believe that the nation should explore alternative forms of government. Roughly a quarter (24 percent) of Biden supporters also question the viability of democracy.
Faith is the one thing that no system of government can do without. Without faith in the underlying values of a constitutional system, authority rests on a mix of coercion and capitulation.
For years, I have written about this growing loss of faith and how it has been fueled by our intellectual and political elites. In the echo chamber of news and social media, citizens constantly hear how the opposing party is composed of “traitors” and how the constitutional system works to protect enemies of the people.
Viewers now get a steady diet of figures like MSNBC commentator Elie Mystal who called the U.S. Constitution “trash” and argued that we should simply just dump it.
In a New York Times column, “The Constitution Is Broken and Should Not Be Reclaimed,” law professors Ryan D. Doerfler of Harvard and Samuel Moyn of Yale called for the Constitution to be “radically altered” to “reclaim America from constitutionalism.”
Georgetown University Law School Professor Rosa Brooks went on MSNBC’s “The ReidOut” to lash out at Americans becoming “slaves” to the U.S. Constitution and that the Constitution itself is now the problem for the country.
They are part of the radical chic that has become the norm in academia — and widely embraced by the media.
According to these law professors the problem is not just our Constitution, but constitutionalism in general.
Others have argued that key protections or institutions should just be ignored. In a recent open letter, Harvard law professor Mark Tushnet and San Francisco State University political scientist Aaron Belkin called upon President Joe Biden to defy rulings of the Supreme Court that he considers “mistaken” in the name of “popular constitutionalism.”
“Popular constitutionalism” appears a form of discretionary or ad hoc compliance with constituitional law. If only “popular” constitutional rules are followed, the Constitution itself becomes a mere pretense for whatever the shifting majority or forming mob demands.
Politicians have also contributed to this crisis of faith in challenging constitutional values or core institutions. Members like Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) has questioned the need for a Supreme Court.
Others like Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass) have called for the packing of the Supreme Court to simply create an immediate liberal majority.
Senate Majority Leader Charles Schumer (D-NY) thrilled his base by going to the steps of the Supreme Court to declare “I want to tell you, Gorsuch. I want to tell you, Kavanaugh. You have released the whirlwind and you will pay the price! You won’t know what hit you if you go forward with these awful decisions.”
It is little surprise that one man showed up at the home of Justice Bret Kavanaugh to kill him for his “awful decisions.”
Conversely, former President Donald Trump has regularly denounced his political opponents as “traitors” and “enemies of the people.” He recently declared “If you go after me, I’m coming after you!”
With leaders engaging in such reckless rhetoric, it is hardly surprising that the Constitution itself is now viewed as threat to our nation rather than the very thing that defines us. It is designed to restrain the majority and protect those who are the least popular in our society.
In the end, a constitution remains a covenant not between citizens and their government but between each other as citizens. It demands a leap of faith; a commitment that despite our differences we will defend the rights of our neighbors.
If nothing else, the Constitution has one thing to recommend it: we are still here. It is a Constitution that has survived economic and political upheavals. It survived a Civil War in which hundreds of thousands were killed.
It is not a particularly poetic document. It was written by the ultimate wonk, James Madison. If you want truly inspirational prose, try any of the French constitutions. Of course, they had more practice since they regularly failed. Other countries based their constitutions on aspirational statements of the values that we shared. The Madisonian system spent as much time on what divided us; it not only recognized the danger of factions but created a system to bring such divisions to the surface where they could be addressed.
The danger of other systems was realized when these divisions were left below the surface where they would fester and explode in the streets of Paris. The American Constitution allowed for a type of controlled implosion toward the center of the system; these factional interests would be expressed and vented in the legislative branch. The Madisonian system does not hide our divisions; it invites their expression.
The question is whether we have reached a time when the things that divide us will now overcome what unites us. This is not our first age of rage. Indeed, at the start of our Republic, rivaling parties were not just figuratively trying to kill each other; they were actually trying to kill each other through laws like the Alien and Sedition Acts. Thomas Jefferson would refer to the term of his predecessor John Adams as “the reign of the witches.”
Yet, that history is no guarantee that it can survive our current age of rage. The relentless attacks on the constitution from the political, media, and academic elite has turned many into constitutional atheists. Yet, the future of our constitutional system may rest with the rising number of constitutional agnostics — those citizens who are simply disconnected or disinterested in the defense of our founding principles.
Philosopher John Stuart Mill warned in 1867 that all it takes for evil to prevail is for “good men [to] look on and do nothing.” We are now in an existential struggle to preserve the values that founded the most successful constitutional system in the history of the world. It is our legacy that now can be either boldly defended by a grateful people or lost in the whimper of a disinterested generation.
Jonathan Turley is the Shapiro Chair of Public Interest Law at George Washington University.
Well, reviewing the survey the good professor linked too, the first two parts I found myself generally in the Independent zone as expected.
The third section, I do agree a amicable divorce might be what is needed. I would likely reside in a Red area or state vs a Blue one.
Our Constitutional republic is well and good. But we need to pass laws on term limits, lobbying groups, dark money, transparency, the weaponization of government institutions, kind of stuff.
Nearly all of the far left and far right issues I disagreed on, with the exception of restricting illegal immigrants access to social programs.
History needs to be taught in context, at the age appropriate level, the good the bad and the ugly. Teaching people are oppressed or oppressors based on skin color is hate speech. See what I did there?
Teach sex ed at age appropriate levels, i.e. early teens. Not six year olds. And just say no to pornography in k-12 libraries. Teachers that try to groom children, need to be put on a sex predator list, and fired.
The use of violence should be avoided.
However, watching the levels of violence during the 2020 fiery but mostly peaceful Summer of Love, the levels of intolerance and violence on college campuses, the current BLM/antifa, anti-Israel protests I think social and civil unrest and violence are coming.
Invest in chickens, PMs and ammo.
Fortunately, in the battle between Republicans and Democrats, it’s the Republicans who have the arms. The war should end quickly.
Moreover, Turley conflates civil discord with self-defense when he quotes Trump who said, “If you go after me, I’m coming after you!”
I thought the same thing about the Trump quote.
Schumer made threats for a branch just doing their job.
Those “Americans” who reject the United States Constitution are not Americans.
Just look at the college campuses and streets of the inner cities this past weekend. Oh, and by all means forgive their college loans.
Margot,
I think you might find this an interesting read: https://www.thefp.com/p/the-day-the-delusions-died-konstantin-kisin
Especially this part,
“The events of the last two weeks have shattered the illusion that wokeness is about protecting victims and standing up for persecuted minorities. This ideology is and has always been about the one thing many of us have told you it is about for years: power. And after the last two weeks, there can be no doubt about how these people will use any power they seize: they will seek to destroy, in any way they can, those who disagree.”
@upstatefarmer – very good article. I’m not optimistic that the light has been turned on in the minds of those who have brought us to the current state of affairs. I believe when they feel a sense of safety they’ll return to feeling fuzzy and gooey and forget what happened. They sure as hell forgot 9/11. I’m very concerned that the s*#^ is going to hit the fan, again. I hope I’m wrong.
It’s an overblown line by a spin artist.
I found a lot of rah rah for republicans and taking his view to the extreme just like the left does.
He mentions some woman or a bunch of people, his theory, that tended toward believing in fairy tales of the left, but went to bed not believing in them anymore. THIS HAS BEEN THE RIGHT WING LINE SINCE DAY ONE OF 911.
Nothing has changed. Have you fools not noticed the alignment of the Barack Hussein Obamas … ? The demoncrat party has an AFFINITY for islam for decades…
I’ll tell you what HAS CHANGED.
The power of the jew has been ignored, and the jew is MAD he is not getting deference and instead a middle finger even after losing in the kibbutz and trying every poor me victim horror method possible to sway the public and only tell one side the story.
IT DIDN’T PHASE THE LEFT BECAUSE THEY KNOW BETTER.
The big real change – THE DOLLARS FLOWING TO UNIVERSITIES BY THE DEEP POCKET DEI EQUITY LARRY FINK RULES PEOPLE.
They are all equity cucks, by the rules enforced by the big demons of the loan industry USA, but they “finally noticed” something is off at the universities and HAVE COVER FROM THE RAGING MAD JEWS.
THE JEW IS MAD, SO GO AHEAD AND PULL SOME MONEY FROM UNIVERSITY. Otherwise the other jews pushing DEI and Equity and all that crap must be adhered to.
As for those just “sympathetic” to the woke (in other words those unwilling to lose their livelihoods arguing with lying idiots with little common sense), they have purportedly “changed”…
In other words, the low information rubes might be a bit swayed…. by shock and awe.
Some more crap – he admits the whole immigration thing might just be a nothing changed back to normal hell soon.
I quit reading there…
I’m sure jew jonathan at ADL has had a fun month
One has to wonder where your anti-Semitism came from. It certainly didn’t come from a wealth of knowledge since you demonstrate almost no accurate information. Most of it comes from anti-Semitic sites that repeatedly prove themselves to provide false data.
I gave you a link to the 1988 Hamas Charter. You couldn’t respond to it, so you deflected and said it was revised, but you said nothing about the charter that existed for 30 years. (The new charter changes nothing). Instead, you ran away. Was that a sign of your agreement with the 1988 charter?
In the late 1950’s, Bill Buckley and Arthur Schlesinger were on a debate tour around America (yes, such things were possible then). Schlesinger seemed depressed, and Buckley asked why. Schlesinger answered: “Because the American people seem satisfied with their lives.” Since then, the Left has sought to make sure that Americans are not happy with their lives.
I did not bother to read much past the headline and for sure skipped the comments.
There are millions of people just like me….who at some point in their lives swore an Oath to support and defend the Constitution and put their lives on the line doing just that and are still doing that…..and shall continue doing that.
Do not despair…..when it comes time to do Patriot Stuff….there are millions who shall stand up and once agains live the Oath.
Our Nation has been defended by Good Men who will do violence in defense of the Nation and in defense of the Constitution and what it stands for and that has not changed.
Those that seek to destroy this Nation and its Constitution might want to enter those numbers into their calculations before thinking it shall be an easy task for them.
When those that just wish to be left alone and live their lives and raise their families finally decide to get. involved….it is not going not go well for those that caused that to happen.
What shall trigger it remains unknown as is how it will be conducted but the absolute certainty it can happen should weigh heavily upon the thinking of those that are dead set on destroying the Nation and abandoning the freedoms the Constitution affords each of us equally and supposedly without favor or prejudice. The Constitution itself is just a piece of precious parchment but what it stands for is why it is so precious and must be defended for the good of us all.
Each of us has to make a decision at some point and decide which side you are on as there is no middle ground.
We are a Nation that is a Constitutional Republic made up of the many States or we are not…..pick your side and choose carefully and wisely.
Ralph,
While I am not a fan of what you are saying as I have seen that kind of thing up close and personal, I cannot say I disagree as we may have to pick as side and not by choice but when faced with situation that forces us to make that choice.
I fear that day is coming soon.
Invest in chickens, PMs and ammo.
UF,
I don’t think there will be any picking of sides since this will be a slow death. The left is unfortunately smart enough not to unload all their change at once. This will happen slowly and the frog will be boiled.
“There are millions of people just like me….who at some point in their lives swore an Oath to support and defend the Constitution and put their lives on the line doing just that and are still doing that…..and shall continue doing that.
Do not despair…..when it comes time to do Patriot Stuff….there are millions who shall stand up and once agains live the Oath.”
This is TOTAL CRAP. It’s long past time one of you stood up but none of you have. Literally not a one ! The time has come long ago and is still here and worse, and all the lip flapping means absolutely NOTHING right now.
I have been waiting to CHEER, and I should have been able to a couple dozen times minimum by now, BUT IT DID NOT HAPPEN.
Colonel Macgregor already reported the idf and us special forces breached into gaza and were delivered a beat down with many casualties.
He also plainly stated much cooler heads need to prevail, and is glad the response was slowed down by our US delay in battle groupings moving on the oceans into the area, etc.
He further warns the knotheads in Washington have no clue what they are doing and do not realize what a giant conflict they are risking.
Iran in, in Syria in Egypt in Turkey in Russia in, Qatar is the real funding machine for hamas…
He has been reporting about and exposing the lies on the war in Ukraine for years, and has been proven 100% correct, just like me.
This isn’t decades and decades ago anymore, satellite assets are fully operational and or accessed by all the enemies, Iran has 1200 mile missiles that can strike in Israel… a development not on the table last time around. Etc, etc. Russia’s standing army and Turkey’s dwarfs the USA’s and (Nato’s – Turkey will not be on the Nato side)
He states flatly the US and Nato would be defeated in Ukraine if they went in, because fighting ak47s in the sand is not what the enemy looks like in eastern ukraine – it is a modern force that strikes any target it chooses in minutes on the entire battlefield and it has constant eyes on it, target are identified within minutes at the poland border…. in the west of Ukraine.
Better do it soon big boy, like already past due.
But on a happy note for Trump’s cult, a Russian as bought Forbes media, so it’s only a matter of time before Trump is back on the world’s richest list.
So what? Crab mentality is responsible for 95% of Trump haters.
Obamma got rich, and he’s a addict and a moron.
This article is guilty of the very issue it raises. The news organization for whom you write, Fox News, is the biggest purveyor of divisiveness of all the major media outlets. You focus on one side (liberals, democrats, the left) not mentioning those on the right, the republicans, and MAGAs who, if this were an honest piece, initiated the divide dating back to Gingrich and before. What could have been a good, even great, opinion piece is a prime example of the very point it is trying to make. Sad.
Did you expect Turley to write an article that would jeopardize his pay check?
Ahhh yes, the left that embraces the Constitution…The left that opposes violence…
I guess life is easy when you simply plug into PRI/NPR and hang out in the same wine bar as others doing the same and then never have to confront reality. I suppose you get a taste for reality on the rare occasion that the media spoon-feeding you BS non-stop will make a note of its ‘oopsie’ on page 87 in a report 6 months after the lie was bought by the wine sippers.
The effete left has been corruptly refined and is simply impure, unstable, and malevolent to anything other than other similarly corrupted lemmings. Go dwell in your urban s576holes or if you have a lick of sense and fewer VDs on their perimeter and pretend you have created something of value and not third-world mini-nations.
Historically, the right is not violent, we simply pack-up and leave and what becomes of what we leave…s567holes.
Look at a picture of any city before and after leftism… Always more violent after and always way less right. Of course a few leftists get very rich or go to jail, but that is simply the play for today, as they say.
Yes, msnbcnnwaponytnpri is a cesspool of lies, misinformation, blackgreengay-washing, and pro-Swamp BS. Of course the few in there that don’t toe the swamp party line 100% do it 90% with the 10% being marxist/commie/collectivist fantasyland.
You are right, fox is crap, especially in the past 4 years or so, but that is irrelevant to the debate in that the left is unequivocally more violent and less Constitutional.
The “divide” goes back to the 1950’s at least when Democrats initiated a propaganda campaign to convince various groups of Americans that they were victims of other groups of Americans: blacks of whites; women of men; homosexuals of heteros; non-Christians
of Christians; non-Europeans of European descendants; and so the process of identity politics and division goes on and on.
“It is designed to restrain the majority and protect those who are the least popular in our society”. Yes, it certainly is. That is why ruling by simple majority is just mob rule dressed in fine linen. That’s why we have the electoral college, Jonathan.
The Electoral College was formed to ensure a majority wouldn’t vote to outlaw slavery.
The electoral college and Senators appointed by Governors was to insure the interests of the States were always considered. Specifically the Founders worked hard to NEVER have majority rule.
The Senate Represented the interests of the States. The House represented the interests of the People.
I’ll never understand why the 17th amendment was passed.
1913. It was the change from trickle to flood of DC corruption.
EXCERPT: “…the Progressive Era hit a new political and constitutional high with the passage of the 16th and 17th Amendments and the Federal Reserve Act. It doesn’t take much imagination (conservative or otherwise) to argue that the “progressive” income tax gave the national government its primary tool for instituting a command and control economy, and for funding all the grand redistributionist and social justice schemes of the past century. It changed the nature of the republic perhaps more than any other single constitutional amendment. The 17th amendment, by universalizing popular elections, marked the beginning of the end of the federalist principle. As long as state legislatures controlled the makeup of the U.S. Senate, states had real constitutional authority. What had been a gradual flow of authority into Washington now became a flood. The Creation of the Federal Reserve not only transferred control of much of the country’s money power to Washington, but (along with other major progressive legislation) opened the economy to regulation by a combination of “experts” and bankers and encouraged the growth of “lobbying.” Not since Alexander Hamilton had government been so open to what in 18th century Britain had been referred to as “corruption.” ”
From: https://theimaginativeconservative.org/2013/03/a-century-ago-1913.html
It just seems bazaar that the States gave up their representation. Someday, I will have to research the debates that were had.
Completely agree. Could the States have predicted in 1913 how much power they would eventually lose, though? “Progressives” are a relentless bunch dead set on political jihad it seems. Perhaps the States saw them as a passing fad instead.
Jim and JAFO, it turned on the D.C. power vacuum and it’s been downhill for the states ever since.
Ah… State’s Rights, they had nothing at all to do with slavery. Continue convincing yourself.
Enigma, there was a lot of recorded discussion at the time and those records disagree with the argument made up much later in time.
I would disagree with those who say dump the Constitution.
The Constitution IS AMERICANISM!
All this rebelling against the Constitution is rebelling against America.
For those who disagree: America is NOT a piece of geography; it is a standard way of life. The attempts to end-around the Constitution are what anti-American political philosophy is about. We do not need to scrap the Constitution; we need to see respect of it from those who take an oath of office to follow it.
We need to have legislators stop crafting laws that are directly opposed to tenets of the Constitution. If they want to write those bills, and if they pass and are signed by the President, they need to be rejected immediately by the Supreme Court. If they want to write those bills, they should be proposing those as Amendments to the Constitution, not as simple pieces of legislation.
Under this philosophy, the most reprehensible piece of legislation ever written (the so-called “PATRIOT Act”) would have been rejected by the Supreme Court immediately, since it contained so many parts that were opposed to what was written in the Constitution while not purporting to amend the Constitution through proper procedures.
Excellent comment, Kevin.
With Halloween approaching, the children of disobedience will glorify Satan again.
Be warned that God has a special place for them. The lake of fire.
and trolls as well. Don’t forget about the trolls!
“…many of these people have lost faith in democracy.” 60+years teaching students we’re a “democracy” when we’re not has lead the masses to believe in “mass rule” instead of what we’ve been all along, a representative republic. Even worse than that: we continue to elect people who not only no longer represent their constituents but continually give them the proverbial middle-finger when The People call them out. THERE is where and why the faith has been lost.
The Constitution is under relentless attack by the totalitarian Democratic Party and its fellow travelers in academia and the media. A recent book by two Harvard professors in fact argue that the constitution itself is a threat to democracy and must be updated. The last two people on earth that I would want to reform the constitution are two leftist professors from Harvard
forgotten Donald Trump wantito “suspend the Constitution?”
Right, just like DJTrump was a member of the KKK because 20 years before DJTrump was born there was a question of Fred Trump being at a KKK rally. Many people were there both pro and con KKK and some were just there. Based on an episode 20 years before DJT was born Enigma drew his conclusion DJT was a racist.
Now we have this nonsense that is meaningless. Trump denied what was said about his comment and explained what he was talking about, “steps must be immediately taken to RIGHT THE WRONG” of election fraud.” I’ll agree with that.
Enigma, it is time for you to go home.
““A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution,” -Donald Trump
Such words you mention can mean many things, including legislation. Steps need to be taken to preserve our freedom. While in power, Trump didn’t abuse his power and followed the Constitution. The American people saw prosperity, increased safety, and peace.
Today, the nation might enter an unnecessary War in the Middle East, a War in Ukraine, and a War with China over regional superiority and Taiwan. The Democrat’s involvement in the KKK is mostly over, but they substituted that war with WWW (war) over three different areas. But that is not the only war the Biden administration has created. They engage in a War against parents of schoolchildren calling them terrorists, a War against Catholics in a similar fashion, a War against young people with approximately 100,00O OD’s per year, and a War against families because of open borders. The Biden Administration has created all those Wars and more devastation to our society. There is Biden’s corruption, the economy, the state of our education system, the threats of Covid-type federal intervention, and Biden’s War on Justice and the Constitution.
Unfortunately, more than half of Americans don’t know what is in the Constitution.
Sigh. This is all correct Jon, however, you fail to mention the primary cause. Now I get that you have to please your network and that makes sense but one guy has been promoting violence for upwards of 6 years and is the primary cause of the actual political violence of January 6. Be worth noting that.
You don’t mean the guy who started three wars and created tension with our allies. versus the former president who started no wars and brought 4 peace treaties to the Middle East?
Please provide some violence promoting.
I don’t think Americans are willing do go down without a fight.
My first encounter with political corruption was having to change my voter designation from Republican to No Party Preference to miraculously get state funded construction projects. True, it is a far cry from being persecuted for joining the Trump administration, but I remember the feeling of helplessness.
The New York prosecutor is sending a message to America more dangerous than California sent to me.
“We don’t need no stinking laws” was a very funny line until you stop to realize laws are creations of man and as the British found out, we are not servants to the state, either.
Woe to my children, my children’s children, and their progeny, if they do not discover the source of the cancerous tit feeding these anencephalics and obliterate it.
I would have to suggest; that if peoples living within the borders of the United States find fault with our constitution they are free to emigrate somewhere else where they can agree with the government in place. There is ABSOLUTELY no reason for them to reside in a nation whose very foundations they claim to despise. We, as a beneficent nation, will gladly provide the one-way ticket to the utopia of their desires.
This is a worthy topic — we all need to look at our daily lives and see where we can help save this country instead of lead to its demise.
They are likely rejecting what America has become, thanks to persons who serve themselves by taking advantage of our Constitution’s weaknesses. And not the America envisioned by our founders.
Correct and concise analysis, Robert.
The oppressors always wrap themselves in the constitution.
The glacial pace of “equal protection under the law” is a tragedy yet to be written.
you mean Fascist Democrats taught by Fascist Democrat Media, government, educational facilities, non-profits like BLM, etc?
Although laughed at, ridiculed and hated by many, the truth that the Holy Scriptures point out that man is at his base, is a sinner who seeks his own glory, has never been more accurate. Despite our 21st century advancements, technology and supposed intellectualism, human nature is the same. People can only truly love and want the best for others after they become a new creation in Christ Jesus. Christ changes hearts and minds one at a time. The Constitution will eventually fail if society becomes totally secular, agnostic and atheistic. We don’t want a religious theocracy, but we need individual Christians who follow Christ in loving God and their neighbor as themselves.
How is having elections and honoring election results fascist? There are now 3, count them with me, 1, 2, 3, people affiliated with trump and republicans that have plead guilty to trying to overturn the 2020 election. In addition, there are people in Michigan that have turned states evidence about fake electors for trump. trump sat in his easy chair munching on burgers while his people attacked the Capitol building to keep him in power. They love him. The ultimate compliment for a deranged rapist that grabs women’s pussies because he can. They love me. Get a grip. Reject the orange rapist and start to come up with ideas to govern, not ideas to remain in power.
The Trump cult does not want to govern, they want to rule.
LMAO – not original and just plain dumb. Trump did wonders for the USA including for the most downtrodden oppressed victims you fat elite plantation minders have screwed while singing sweet whispers for decades.
Trump lifted their boats, all of them !
The usurper cheat in power now is known for over imprisoning them like kamala for what his son does on the regular, quite a failure compared to Trump, TERRIBLE, a pathetic horror to all but the filthy grifters of DC and the war machines of death profit.
No one cares what the criminal government has claimed in the Trump cases, against his lawyers, supporters, the jan 6th peaceful protest for a redress of grievances, nor any other raging psychotic scream orange man bad elect me DA off the rails making crap up since Trump reported THEY ARE SPYING ON ME, and all of you lied about it.
It would be different if there were actual crimes and not a lying fraud demoncrat backed gov plot…. but it is NOT DIFFERENT. YOU ARE THE CRIMINALS, not President Trump.