Below is my column in Fox.com on free speech controversies brewing in the “House of Mouse” as both the company and its talent face public backlash over public statements. Free speech in the corporate setting presents unique challenges and conditions that are vividly demonstrated by the tough month the company is experiencing.
Here is the column:
Walt Disney once remarked, “You reach a point where you don’t work for money.” For shareholders of Disney, the most common complaint in recent years is that the entire corporation appears to have reached that point in pushing woke movies that have bombed with consumers and a political fight with Florida that has already cost the corporation dearly.
At the heart of two recent controversies are free speech disputes. The company’s new Snow White, actress Rachel Zegler, is publicly defending her right to trash the franchise’s original storyline and characters. In the meantime, the company is objecting that it is being punished for its own free speech in opposing Florida’s popular parental rights law.
Recently, Disney dropped all of its federal claims against the state of Florida over the company’s public opposition to the Parental Rights in Education Act. The only exception is its free speech claim that Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has retaliated against the House of Mouse for speaking as a company against the law. (It has state litigation that is continuing on other claims.)
At the same time, Disney is facing another free speech controversy after Zegler used her casting as the new Snow White to denounce the entire premise and appeal of the original 1937 movie, calling Prince Charming a presumptive “stalker” and promising to ditch the whole love interest. She told an interviewer that Snow White is “not going to be saved by the prince and she’s not going to be dreaming about true love.”
What followed was a familiar groan to another Disney woke remake that seems to delight only Disney actors and diversity officers.
The problems with the film were magnified when even the dwarves seemed to get the axe after “Game of Thrones” star Peter Dinklage expressed his disapproval for the film and objected to the very notion of any of the seven traditional figures making a reappearance: “You’re still making that f—ing backwards story about seven dwarfs living in a cave together, what the f— are you doing, man? Have I done nothing to advance the cause from my soap box? I guess I’m not loud enough.”
He was indeed loud enough (which is surprising since his movie, “Cyrano,” bombed at the box office and took in just $6.4 million for a $30 million production). Soon after his objections, Disney posted a new vision of the dwarves as a happy band of male and female, racially diverse group of non-dwarves (except for one actor).
The backlash (and the actors’ strike) has now resulted in a delay of the release of the remake for another year and the sudden re-appearance of the original dwarves. (Disney insists that the earlier actors were just “stand ins” for the dwarves, which is a bit odd since the dwarves are digitally produced.)
Yet, right on cue, Zegler was back in the news with the release of the new images and date by reaffirming her earlier comments. Zegler encourages other actors to follow her lead in speaking out on such subjects.
Echoing Dinklage, Zegler declared that “we have to be fearless and loud in order to be heard, and to prepare for the backlash that occasionally comes with that outspokenness.”
Her rep quickly ran forward to say, “Snow White was not mentioned in her quotes.”
The concern was obvious with an actress stirring the same pot that has caused the movie to tank in promotions. For the rep, there is also the concern that talent are subject to contracts with reservation clauses on disparaging or damaging public comments or conduct.
The Zegler controversy reflects the fact that free speech is different in a corporate context. Even when the NFL caved to kneelers (despite countervailing rules against demonstrations in games), it had every right to bar such protests. Companies like Home Depot and Whole Foods have prevailed in barring the wearing of Black Lives Matter symbols. These companies are allowed to block political expression in the workplace deemed inimical to their brand or business.
Disney is now leading an interesting counter effort in fighting for the right of a corporation to speak on political issues even to the alienation of its consumers. It certainly has that right.
Over 60% of voters support the language in the Florida parental rights act. Nevertheless, Disney can make such political campaigns the priority over actual sales so long as the shareholders do not revolt.
From the outset of the fight with Florida, some of us could not see the possible winning strategy for Disney. Disney is losing money in critical areas, raising prices, embroiled in internal conflicts and laying off workers.
At the same time, CEO Bob Iger is facing an investor revolt.
Disney appears to be trying to move beyond its fight with Florida, but it is continuing to litigate its right to free speech. Ironically, many liberals who opposed corporate free speech rights in cases like Citizens United are supporting Disney in its claims.
Yet, the problem is not Disney’s right to speak as a corporation on political issues, but its right to continued favored status in the state.
Even if the controversy led to a reexamination of the status, would a court actually say that the state was barred from ordering greater corporate uniformity because Disney took a controversial public position? If so, Disney could insulate its corporate status by picking a fight with the state.
DeSantis replaced the handpicked Disney board and the state moved to force Disney to comply with the same laws as other corporations. The company is arguing that these measures were pure retaliation. The question is whether a court would feel comfortable in using such a perceived motivation to block an important state policy for uniformity in regulation.
Disney elected to go head-to-head in opposing the parental rights legislation and lost its favored status with both the state and many families. The question in the litigation is whether that is a prohibited cost to impose on the company or the cost of becoming a political advocate.
In the end, Iger will have to decide if Disney is now so profitable that it has “reached a point where you don’t work for money.” Snow White and the shareholders may hold different views on that question.
Jack Smith is slowly being exposed as a shill for for Biden (Obama).
Lot of evidence cited in yesterdays hearing about the phony Documents scam, persecution.
In part, the defense zeroed in on 6 documents the govt claims are classified, but discovery has failed to provide evidence of the classification.
Biden (Obama) removed Trumps Security Clearence and then reclassified documents Trump had declassified through the proccess as laid out in the last EO.
Years worth of security footage is in discovery documents…..so the Govt has hacked MAL security cams. Warrant-less searches is something Trump is familiar with.
Trump’s lawyers told Judge Cannon they discovered a June 2023 letter asking DOE to remove Trump’s ACTIVE SECURITY CLEARANCE.” – A few weeks AFTER Smith handed down classified documents indictment.
Trump’s lawyers told Judge Cannon this afternoon they have evidence that the Biden White House collaborated with NARA, DOJ, and intel agencies to determine which documents to include in Jack Smith’s indictment.
Trove of evidence includes “years” worth of security footage from MAL
I don’t understand the logic behind the free speech claim by Disney. Disney was not prevented from providing their views on any subject. That is, the state of Florida did not impose a gag order on Disney. But speech is not inconsequential. That is, there may be repercussions applied legally. For example Anheurser-Busch found out that who they use to represent their products and what they say to promote their product, Bud Light, has consequences. AB can certainly say (and did) what they want but then AB cannot complain if the public does not align with their views. That is a risk that corporations (and citizens including correspondents to this blog) take. Disney found out that special business treatment can be revoked if they “bit the state hand that fed it”. That Disney finds that the state of Florida revokes any special treatment and now treats it by the same rules as any other corporation is hardly a restriction on their speech or business practice, rather it is the natural consequence of a corporate blunder. With special business treatment granted by the state of Florida, there is an implied contract for Disney to be an exceptionally well behaved corporate citizen. Disney exercised their free speech rights at their peril and rediscovered the concept of natural consequences. In my non-professional view, they have no leg to stand on.
“But speech is not inconsequential.”
Excellent points.
Ever notice the Left’s double standard on this issue?
Speech made by Leftists should *not* carry consequences. (And should be swallowed as “they have the right to say it.”)
However, speech by someone on the Right (e.g., Trump) should always carry consequences (whether that speech is real or imagined).
Nailed it twice. Shareholders. AND STATE INCORPRATION LAWS. can’t fraud on the state. You either doing business as or u not . And the business judgement rule. How does that unfold? With free speech? Shareholders are coming. Victory funds. Et al calpers . Fiduciary duty rings a bell.
During the 90 days that began on April 6 in 1994, Rwanda experienced the most intensive slaughter in this blood-filled century
Families murdered in their home, people hunted down as they fled by soldiers and militia, through farmland and woods as if they were animals.
“All over the world there were people like me sitting in offices who did not fully appreciate the depth and speed with which you were being engulfed by this unimaginable terror.” Clinton is a filthy, unrepentant liar and war criminal.
He had inadequately reacted to the genocide, he said, because he had not really known what had been happening in Rwanda. He didn’t lift a finger. “inadequately reacted.” My G-D, this lying punk.
a. As the Archive notes, “beginning April 8th, the massacres in Rwanda were reported on the front pages of major newspapers and on radio and television broadcasts almost daily, including the major papers read by U.S. officials and policy elites.” And at that time human rights activists in Washington–who had close relationships with national security adviser Tony Lake and staff members of Clinton’s national security council–were pounding on the doors of the White House demanding action and suggesting options.
THE NATION
David Corn
And Trump is a lying bum?
Philip Gourevitch of the New Yorker recounted in horrific detail the story of the genocide and the world’s failure to stop it. President Bill Clinton, a famously avid reader, expressed shock. He sent copies of Gourevitch’s articles to his second-term national-security adviser, Sandy Berger. The articles bore confused, angry, searching queries in the margins. “Is what he’s saying true?” Clinton wrote with a thick black felt-tip pen beside heavily underlined paragraphs. “How did this happen?” he asked, adding, “I want to get to the bottom of this.” The President’s urgency and outrage were oddly timed. As the terror in Rwanda had unfolded, Clinton had shown virtually no interest in stopping the genocide, and his Administration had stood by as the death toll rose into the hundreds of thousands.
Thanks to the National Security Archive (www.nsarchive.org), a nonprofit organization that uses the Freedom of Information Act to secure the release of classified U.S. documents, this account also draws on hundreds of pages of newly available government records. This material provides a clearer picture than was previously possible of the interplay among people, motives, and events. It reveals that the U.S. government knew enough about the genocide early on to save lives, but passed up countless opportunities to intervene.
Seeing the situation in Rwanda deteriorating rapidly, Dallaire pleaded for logistical support and reinforcements of 2,000 soldiers for UNAMIR; he estimated that a total of 5,000 well-equipped troops would give the UN enough leverage to put an end to the killings. The UN Security Council refused, partly due to US opposition.
The United States needs to get on her knees and apologize most somberly for deceiving the Tutsis.
Classified papers show Clinton was aware of ‘final solution’ to eliminate Tutsis
Rory Carroll in Johannesburg
@rorycarroll72
Wed 31 Mar 2004 10.59 EST
President Bill Clinton’s administration knew Rwanda was being engulfed by genocide in April 1994 but buried the information to justify its inaction, according to classified documents made available for the first time.
Senior officials privately used the word genocide within 16 days of the start of the killings, but chose not to do so publicly because the president had already decided not to intervene.
Golly Slick, thought u was hanging in the office just dying to hear from Rwanda. A million people were butchered because ur a filthy pig.
Disney is losing revenue because it acted petulantly, while hiding behind free speech. Ditto for Democrats. Democrats petulant, shallow, and hateful “free speech” regarding Pro-Palestinian talking points is now costing them. Biden, cognitively impaired, not only has a problem with his schismatic party. Biden is the problem domestically and globally, and our enemies in Iran know it.
Disney has an anti-family problem and a fetish for sexualizing children. Democrats have a Nazi persona.
Schadenfreude indeed.
Democrats Have an Anti-Semitism Problem
After the House last week overwhelmingly passed a resolution condemning Hamas for its attack in southern Israel Oct. 7, New Jersey Democrat Josh Gottheimer wrote on social media that the 15 Democrats who didn’t vote for the measure were “despicable and do not speak for the party.” Mr. Gottheimer was only half right. Those 15 members from progressive constituencies may in fact represent the Democratic future. The party of Franklin D. Roosevelt has an anti-Semitism problem. This week progressive activist groups released a “Gaza 2024 statement” asserting they won’t vote for Joe Biden “if he does not end U.S. support for Israel’s brutal war in Gaza.” The announcement offers background on “Israeli ethnic cleansing and genocide in Gaza.” An open letter this week from 100 Columbia professors called the Hamas massacre “a military response by a people who had endured crushing and unrelenting state violence from an occupying power.”
Rationally, many large Jewish donors already are pulling the plug on giving to anti-Semitic fermentation tanks such as Harvard, Columbia and Penn. The party of FDR could be next.
Wall Street Journal
“The party of FDR could be next.” The party of FDR ignored reports of the Holocaust as it was happening. Earlier that same party ignored reports of the Holodomor. Then it ignored reports of Soviet spies in the federal government. And, ironically, as referenced in comments here, when it became the party of Clinton, it ignored the genocide in Rwanda. Exactly what you would expect from the party of compassion.
Most of this is a giant Yawn.
Disney and its actors can do as they wish regarding making movies.
If those movies fail – the market has spoken.
It does not matter to the rest of us WHY those movies failed – though most of us understand.
If Disney can significantly profit and make investors happy by producing woke movies for kids – I am fine with that.
And if not – investors will flee and Disney will have reduced its ability to make movies PERIOD.
While public debate over WHY disney is failing is of value – though I think most of us understand why.
To those such as these actors who think that analysis is wrong – work it out, make the movie however you please and when it bombs – do not come running to me.
I would note that there is an enormous amount of “woke stuff” that consumers – and particularly those in entertainment will be uneffected by – even if it is unrealistic. Because entertainment is unrealistic. So long as writers and actors succeed in the “suspension of disbeleif” it does not matter.
As an example increasingly action moviews have female leads. Audiences do not blink when a woman takes on a role resevered for Arnold Sxhwartzeneger or Liam Nieson. We suspend disbeleif and accept that a woman can take on a dozne men and defeat them – which is unreal, but then in reality Danial Craig is not goiing to survive a battle against a dozen opponents either.
But some things do not fly – not with parents, not with kids and not with adult audiences.
If you want to make the 100’s of milions that a blockbuster makes – you need to make the wide audience happy – not that of an artfilm.
You can rant and rail at audiences all you want.
You can ot force them to pay to see something they reject.
The reason that government CAN NOT give prefered status to any groups is specifically because of issues like this.
And that is the correct solution that avoids constitutional pitfalls. but if applied correctly it would leven government no role in the economy or in education beyond enforcing contracts. and punishing violent conduct.
There is no doubt that Florida can not interfere with Disney’s excercise of its free speech rights by constraining other actual rights of Disney.
But if you allow government to grant a person of business a special priviledge. then you can not arbitrarily condiction the revokation oof that priviledge on the presection that it is done in retaliation.
Otherwise all any entity grants a special priviledge must do to hold it in perpituiity is to continuously offend government.
I have no problem accepting that DeSantis is retaliating against Disney.
But there are only two legitimate results – DeSantis can not retailiate, and Disney can not have the priviledge,
or FL could not legitimately grant the priviledge.
Frankly the later is prefered as we do not want to have government bribing private actors any more than private actors bribing government.
Thanks Cindy. Happy All Saints Day!
sorry. That should be a reply to Cindy
Estovir! Thank you! Oh my….it’s one of my very favorite hymns, and was a favorite of my choral director/minister of music father’s.
Our church organist played a dramatic, magnificent, solo organ arrangement of it (“pulling out all the stops”, 4 manuals, full volume)
as the Postlude/Recessional for my beloved mother’s funeral. It was a fitting send-off for “Mama”……our saint.
I still get emotional when I hear it played (or sung).
Thank you for reminding me of that precious memory. I hope you had a meaningful All Saints Day, dear friend.
Turley may have not perceived the “Citizens United” ruling in a totally fair manner (referenced in the above article).
Probably most opponents of “Citizens United” oppose corporate-persons having MORE rights than human-persons.
Most of us don’t oppose any corporation having Freedom of Speech, but regular citizens usually don’t have lunch with their member of Congress and receive special access to law makers.
It’s also crazy to think James Madison and the Founding Fathers created the Bill of Rights for non-humans. Turley misrepresented these opponents.
Corporations are comprised of America’s “best and brightest,” who are among its most productive and successful citizens and should be heard. The criminals are the unions that contribute “dirty money” obtained through illegal criminal acts, such as trespassing on and damaging private property, slashing tires, breaking windshields, causing disturbances of the peace, intimidating innocent citizens, etc., conducted by employees who have requested employment, then deliberately refused to report for duty and are AWOL (beggars can’t be choosers).
Did you mention the “corporate tax,” which is an insidious fraud perpetrated on America, understanding that corporations have no money but that which is provided by consumers and that consumers pay the so-called “corporate tax” in addition to all the other taxes consumers pay to fund the anti- and unconstitutional principles of communism in America?
Corporations are not inherently our best and brightest – though successful businesses are.
Unions are not inherently evil. But government taking sides in disputes – between unions and businesses
There is nothing inherently wrong with corporate taxes. What is wrong is failing to understand that all taxes are ultimately paid in reduced standard of living.
You can eleiminate personal income taxes, property taxes and sales taxes and just run a country on corporate taxes.
What you should not do is play games hiding the fact that government is consuming about 40% of what we produce – and worse still paying for it mostly by borrowing.
We KNOW from massive data through the 20th century that the optimal tax rates is when government revenue is below 19% of GDP.
We know from poorer 19th century data that it is likely below 9% of GDP. Lincoln fought the Civil war with total taxes not exceeding 8% of GDP.
A free economy cannot produce enough jobs to employ all workers, The government spends money that produces jobs in which earnings are spent to buys goods and services, increasing the number of workers who are employed.
Brad there is absolutely no data to support that.
Further even if true – which it is not, the argument is stupid.
“While traveling by car during one of his many overseas travels, Professor Milton Friedman spotted scores of road builders moving earth with shovels instead of modern machinery. When he asked why powerful equipment wasn’t used instead of so many laborers, his host told him it was to keep employment high in the construction industry. If they used tractors or modern road building equipment, fewer people would have jobs was his host’s logic.
“Then instead of shovels, why don’t you give them spoons and create even more jobs?” Friedman inquired.”
#4 ranked Ideas Respec economist Robert Barro has the worlds most thorough database on government spending.
Barro has found that on average for ever $1 that government spends, it creats between $0.25 and $0.35 in actual value – while a privately spent $1 produces about $1.15 in value.
The FACT is that government spend is just about the least efficient way to accomplish anything.
And effectively LOWERS our standard of living significantly.
I would seriously think about the Friedman anecdote I provided ?
Standard of living rises by producing more of what humans value with less human effort. PERIOD.
Even Keyness eventually disowned the fallacy that employing people to accomplish nothing was beneficial.
Your claim regarding the ability of a free economy to produce jobs violates the laws of supply and demand – which are immutable.
Your claim is also at odds with history. If your claim were correct the Luddites of the 18th century would have been correct.
If your claim was correct we should deliberately do things with less efficiency in order to hire more people.
Again it is what of value we produce and how efficently we produce it that determines standard of living.
Not how many we employ.
We talk constantly of GDP -= that is what we have produced.
We can not consume what we do not produce.
The theorectical max standard of living would be infinite production of what humans value with zero people employed to produce it.
Though the laws of supply and demand preclude that. If there is a sufficient pool of under utilized labor the laws of supply and demand require than in an actual free market that labor will be used for something.
Please cite the Constitution wherein that power is provided. You just referenced the Communist Manifesto.
Optimal tax rates are managed communism.
Taxes merely sufficient to pay for debt, defense and general Welfare are finite and severely limited to the advantage of free people.
Taxes are not the government’s business, taxes are the Constitution’s business and the Constitution severely limits taxation – while it maximally frees the people.
Probably most opponents of “Citizens United” oppose corporate-persons having MORE rights than human-persons
But how is giving special privileges to the Disney Corporation not an example of that?
Citizens United had little to do with corporations.
A corporation is nothing but a legal structure to distribute profits. Creating a corporation does not mean you sacrifice your protections from the government.
The first amendment did not create free speech. It exists, like air and sunlight. It just is.
The Bill of Rights handcuffed the Government from using their unlimited power to abuse the people.
Thus, The first Amendment forbid congress from pass a law limiting the speech of citizens <(congress shall make no law)
Quit beating this horse, it has been dead for decades. Congress shall make no law…
With respect a corporation is not a legal structure to distribute profits. It is a legal structure for many people to act in common, and it predates the founding by centuries.
All corporations are not “for profit” – churches are corporations, the ACLU is a corporation as is the NAACP.
Citizen’s united was a corporation formed to produce political adds targeting Hillary Clinton. It was not a for profit organization.
It was specifically engaged in political advocacy the most protected form of speech.
Coprpoations and corporate rights -= the agregate rights of humans acting in groups have been arround since before the founding.
The claim of the left is that humnas LOSE rights when they act together.
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The S. Ct. has held since 1886 that corporations are legal persons under the 14th Amendment. Santa Clara County v. Southern Pacific Rail Road 1886. In 1947, Congress defined the term “person” to refer to corporations, unless otherwise indicated in the text of a statute. 1 US Code 1. If Madison had a different view, it has been long ago “overruled.”
Further they did so out of convenience. The alternative in a case involving a corporation is to require the courts to examine the rights of each and every shareholder.
The left forgets that all orgainzations are made of people. And you can not deprive people of rights when they choose to act together.
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If secession is constitutional, and it is, it is not prohibited and, therefore, fully constitutional, everything Lincoln et al. did remains invalid, illegitimate, illicit and unconstitutional.
Overlay secession on the 10th Amendment.
Corporations are not “non-humans” – Corporations are nothing more than many individuals coming together for a common purpose.
There is no corporation that is not ultimately owned by and answerable to one or more humans.
Corporations have no more rights than individuals.
That means they have more POWER than acting individually, but it does not change their rights.
Pretty sure that if you ask for lunch with your congressmen you will get it.
Absolutely certain that if you and 20 other voters that share your view ask for lunch with your congressmen you will get it.
Yes, congressmen are more interested in what 10,000 voters want than what 1 voter wants.
That is why we have rights – so that congressmen ability to please the 10,000 is constrained by the rights of the one individual.
It is crazy to think that James madison intended a federal govenrment with the power it has now.
Limited government was how Madison and our founders expected government to be constrained.
When government can not excersize a power – no one seeks to rent it.
“non-humans”
So corporations are run by zebras? Rocks? Who exactly are those “non-humans?”