We recently discussed the runaway grade inflation at Harvard where roughly 80 percent of grades were As. Now the Yale Daily News is reporting the same percentage of As. Indeed, the percentage is virtually identical. Harvard is handing out 79 percent agrees where Yale is apparently more rigorous at 78.9.The report is apparently an embarrassment to the university since the dean of Yale College said that professors are not adhering to guidelines for grading.Yet, this could hardly be a surprise to the dean since these grades are reported and issued by the records office.
Indeed, this average is reportedly down from the prior year where 81.97 percent of students were given As. So not getting an A at Yale meant that you were in the bottom 20 percent of the class.
That means that for virtually all of the students at Yale there was a three-grade system that runs from A+, A, and A-.
The percentage was higher in the African American Studies department at 82.21 percent. However, it was the Gender Students department that showed that 92.6 percent of grades were in the A range. So only 7 % of students did not receive an A in gender studies.
For employers and other universities, it renders the grades from Yale meaningless in judging the capabilities and record of students.
They are not apparently alone.
At Spellman College, economics professor Kendrick Morales was fired after objecting to the school raising his grades without his consent, even after massively increasing the grades.
Morales worked for two years at Spellman and taught two upper-level courses. In one class, he added a 28-point grade bump for one test at the request of his department chair.
When students overall bombed the final, Morales “pre-emptively” raised them 36 points so that a student receiving a 57 would receive an A. Yet, even with that increase, 44 percent of that class would still fail. Indeed, they had failed, but Morales says that Undergraduate Studies Dean Desiree Pedescleaux bumped up the students’ grades again without his approval.
He was later fired.
The allegations not only raise questions over the academic standards at Spellman, but the violation of academic freedom.
Grade inflation is only the latest sign of how school administrators have lost control of universities and colleges. It also reflects a growing expectation of students in terms of higher GPAs.
It is easy to say that this is the byproduct of the “trophy generation,” but this is not their fault. Years ago, I had an interesting conversation with one of my classes over this negative image and one student said that they never wanted participation trophies. She noted it was my generation that wanted them to have them, not the kids. Another student said that she would routinely throw away trophies as meaningless and insulting.
The same could well prove true for grades that they will become worthless and discarded if this trend continues. That will undermine a critical role of universities in evaluating the performance of students. That role not only helps future employers. It is even more important in offering students a true appraisal of their work. Often students will pursue degrees for the wrong reasons and not consider other fields that may be better suited to their talents and interests. If you are getting nothing but As in your economics or gender studies course, there is little reason to consider alternatives.
When John F. Kennedy was given an honorary degree at Yale, he quipped “it might be said now that I have the best of both worlds. A Harvard education and a Yale degree.” It turns out that both now come with the same 80 percent likelihood of receiving an A. The question is not the degree but the education at either school with such grade inflation.
How is this different than if I bought a new car and the motor was not in it when it was delivered to me, or if I paid a contractor to build my dream home and found when I entered the completed project it was nothing but a giant, empty, hollow box with a nice facade?
Oh right, the higher institutions of fraudulent learning won’t be held accountable for their actions.
Too bad there isn’t a way to change naming bridges and other critical structures from naming them after people, to naming the bridges etc. after the school the designers, engineers etc. graduated from as a warning to use at your own risk.
Maybe this explains why 80 percent of the dissertations are filled with emojis, LOL, and curse words, and are written in block letter print.
Many years ago when I saw the US gov sanity disappear and demand every dummy in the nation attend college, I knew it was a disaster, and it is a horrible crime against humanity. From the sexual misconduct, the activism of the libturds, the silencing of free speech and thought, the safe spaces, and now for the deranged here the opposition to total power of the homeland and absolute funding for it forever, and near retards lofted into positions of power as a result, the downfall of the nation continues unabated.
No children, no marriage, no real education, clapped out private parts with innumerable visitors to and fro, indoctrination of the communist marxist socialist totalitarian cause, raping the treasury and the people’s personal funds, snooty morons with egos outsizing incapacity to build net worth, influx of foreign enemies and theft of intellectual property from the national labs and all research, on and on the list of horrors accrues and grows.
Now we have the ultimate insult – near all the unworthy tards get As.
Cyclone bee.bayer monsanto
6 million gassed. Plus 20 million Russians dead so we can say we won. As the ss paper clip took away their grind stones. How about we say no more no more 2 barbarians. Stop falling for the Persian theory of replacement especially in the age of “democracy”. It will be free religions demise. We want freedom of religion then we must remain tribal. Putting is on the right side ppl. If Ukraine becomes like Europe and nato his Russian ppl in there won’t have Christianity as a CHOICE. And if we bankrupt our selves in this mic war we won’t either. It’ll be all our heads off by the infiltrates using us for our democracy. Wake up. Cqw.
The Ivy’s have sone this for years. These kids aren’t smarter; they’re better connected.
What years, the hippy years and beyond
“In 1950, when Harvey Mansfield was but a freshman at Harvard, the average GPA was estimated at 2.55. Now, it’s much closer to 3.80.”
Beautiful revealing, totally BUSTED chart here at the harvard crimson
https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2022/10/3/barton-grade-inflation/
I wonder if they’re at least smart enough to know there’s no apostrophe in “Ivies.”
Let the suckered beware.
Life may be a bowl of cherries, but Yale is the pits. Speaking of pits and grade inflation – did you know there are 14 sizes of olives and the average size is between jumbo and extra jumbo? What is our world coming to?
https://www.radaolives.com/services/olive-sizes/
Jonathan: In my comment about George Santos I forgot to mention a statement he allegedly made upon leaving the Capitol: “But I thought Republicans LOVED pathological liars!!!!!” They do George when the person wears orange makeup,
has hair implants and is heavily overweight.
If Congress may expel Santos, Congress may expel communists (liberals, progressives, socialists, democrats, RINOs, AINOs).
Let’s get this party started!
Santos is only the 6th congressmen ever expelled.
He did not particpate in the Civil War.
He has not as of yet been convicted of a crime.
Expelling Santos at this time was a mistake.
It will make it easier to expel others later.
If lying is the criteria to get expelled – why are schiff or Swallwell or much of the rest of congress still there ?
The issue is not whether you like Santos.
He was elected, and he has not been convicted of a crime.
He was elected after making numerous false claims – but that is true of Joe Biden.
If and When Santos is convicted of something – then Congress should have removed him.
But this is a mistake. And it will just make it easier to get rid of other congressmen.
Is that really what you want ?
A larger number of democrats voted to Censure Tlaib.
Should Tlaib be removed also ?
Good comment, John.
I agree with John. Unfortunately, there is no recall election for federal legislators that I am familiar with. That is the proper way. I am very uncomfortable with this vote because it was selective. If one liar goes, they all need to go, and that isn’t happening.
“Yale Awards 80 Percent of Grades in the A Range”
– Professor Turley
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American TV awards 80% of commercial appearances to blacks during football games.
Both Yale and American TV’s actions constitute ostensibly subtle subliminal manipulation, brainwashing, propagandization, and indoctrination.
Both of these actions constitute antithetical and anti-American, communist (liberal, progressive, socialist, democrat, RINO, AINO) social engineering.
These actions by advertisers have little or no bearing or impact on sales – they intend to sway the social perceptions of the populace.
Networks and advertisers anticipate that weak Americans will perceive a disproportionately high degree of acumen or full dominance by blacks generally.
Blacks make up 12% of the U.S. population.
Blacks are 90% of the TV faces selling to a football audience that is 83% white.
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“While the majority of NFL players are black, the NFL fan base is 83 percent white and 64 percent male.”
– RealGM Wiretap
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The audience for televised football games is 83% white, while the majority of faces in “commercials” is black.
During regular American TV programming, the majority of faces in commercials is black, while the audience is 76.6% white.
How and why does 12% of the population dominate the TV screen?
American TV and movies are artificially and arbitrarily manipulated to achieve the particular outcome of causing actual Americans to believe that they are a minority and inferior.
Black faces dominating the TV screen is a strategy of communist (liberal, progressive, socialist, democrat, RINO, AINO) social engineering.
In movies, black faces satisfy a large “quota” of communist (liberal, progressive, socialist, democrat, RINO, AINO) social engineering no matter the subject or theme—even entirely Caucasian European fairy tales bizarrely suffer blacks and Africans insinuated as historical fact.
DID YOU SAY, JFK?
JFK was an egomaniacal fool who was duped by the Russians, Cubans, Mafia, CIA, FBI, Texas Oilmen, and everyone else.
JFK was rotten to the core.
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“JFK, Monster”
– Timothy Noah
“I knew that John F. Kennedy was a compulsive, even pathological adulterer, given to taking outlandish risks after he entered the White House. I knew he treated women like whores. And I knew he had more than a few issues with his father about toughness and manliness and all that. But before I read in the newspaper that Mimi Alford’s just-released memoir, Once Upon A Secret: My Affair With President John F. Kennedy And Its Aftermath, described giving Dave Powers a blow job at JFK’s request and in his presence, I didn’t know that Kennedy had an appetite for subjecting those close to him to extreme humiliation.”
This part of Alford’s story doesn’t really add anything to what we already know about Kennedy. Nor does it really change my opinion of the 35th president. But this part does:
Dave Powers was sitting poolside while the President and I swam lazy circles around each other, splashing playfully. Dave had removed his jacket and loosened his tie in the warm air of the pool, but he was otherwise fully clothed. He was sitting on a towel, with his pants leg rolled up, and his bare feet dangling in the water.
The President swam over and whispered in my ear. “Mr. Powers looks a little tense,” he said. “Would you take care of it?”
It was a dare, but I knew exactly what he meant. This was a challenge to give Dave Powers oral sex. I don’t think the President thought I’d do it, but I’m ashamed to say that I did. It was a pathetic, sordid, scene, and is very hard for me to think about today. Dave was jolly and obedient as I stood in the shallow end of the pool and performed my duties. The President silently watched.
Afterwards, Alford says she was “deeply embarrassed,” and as she climbed out of the pool she “could hear Dave speak in as stern a tone as I ever heard him use with his boss. ‘You shouldn’t have made her do that,’ Dave said. ‘I know, I know,’ I heard the President say. Later, a chastened President Kennedy apologized to us both.” Alford believes that Kennedy showed “his darker side … when we were among men he knew. That’s when he felt a need to display his power over me.” Kennedy didn’t just have a thing for Social Register girls; he had a thing for humiliating Social Register girls. He also had a thing for humiliating his fellow Irishman, Dave Powers.
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“The medical records reveal that [John F.] Kennedy variously took codeine, Demerol and methadone for pain; Ritalin, a stimulant; meprobamate andlibrium for anxiety; barbiturates for sleep; thyroid hormone; and injections of a blood derivative, gamma globulin, a medicine that combats infections.”
-ABC News
Well they fooled joe biden with the blackie commercials according to what he said on stage in public
Since the goofball criminals like he are constantly not in the general public and he’s stupid enough to believe anything his demented brain comes up with, we can be assured it works on a good percentage of his fans, since they got the command on what to think about it.
Jonathan: Finally, George Santos has been expelled from Congress. Even some MAGA Republicans voted to expel him. But not the Bible-thumping and ultra-MAGA Republican Speaker Mike Johnson who refers to DJT as the “Orange Jesus”.
The Q is whether the MAGA Republicans will apply the same standards for expulsion to DJT? Santos is small pickings when it comes to lying and cheating. DJT beats him in spades. His lies about the 2020 election, his lies and cheating to get bank loans, his lies about the Mar-a-Lago docs, his lies about paying off Stormy Daniels–and his lies about E. Jean Carroll. DJT is the liar-in-chief. All these lies and cheating are at the heart of all the civil and criminal cases against DJT.
And yet, Johnson and the MAGA are all in–supporting DJT’s 2024 candidacy. Seems there is a big disconnect here. The Greeks had a word for it–“hypokrisis”!
Republican Speaker Mike Johnson who refers to DJT as the “Orange Jesus”.Y
That sounds almost impossible considering Johnson. Care to provide link?
Just going from you past actions, this is yet another lie.
If Dennis McInlyre’s key are moving…he’s lying
Iowan2: Agree. He needs to cite his source. I just spent nearly 20 minutes scanning the Internet. The only reference I see is a retaliatory Liz Cheney claiming that Rep. Mark Johnson made a reference to “the things we do for Orange Jesus. ” This comment was denied. Dennis needs to apologize for his eagerness to print anything negative, whether true or not.
true or not, it was Mark Johnson not Mike Johnson
Dennis needs to apologize for his eagerness to print anything negative
Dennis demonstrates everyday, that lacking any facts to support the leftist talking points, ALL he can do is fabricate and lie.
iowan2: I don’t know if he is fabricating/lying, or simply so eager to find anything that supports his side, he inadvertently draws his own conclusions, or misrepresents others’ in order to find validation. Either way, not good.
(the two anonymous comments that you are responding to (3:43 and 3:49) , were from me. I often comment quickly without signing in. Either way, I am signing off now. Enjoy the rest of your weekend (warmer? drier?)
Iowan2: Correction: It was MAGA Republican Mark Green who is alleged to have made the statement. He denied it. In her book (“Oath and Honor”) Liz Chaney relates that on the morning of Jan 6, Green and other Republicans in the House were signing sheets to object to the certification of the vote for Biden: “And I was sitting there, and a member came in and he signed his name on each of the state’s sheets. And he said under his breath ‘The things we do for the Orange Jesus’. And I thought, you know, you’re taking an act that is unconstitutional”.
Perhaps you should ask Liz Cheney if she recalls who made the statement. Maybe it was Green, maybe it was someone else. Maybe it was even Mike Johnson who most House members didn’t really know until he became Speaker. In any case, does it really matter who said it? Whoever said it was part of the conspiracy to overthrow a legitimate election. That’s the part you missed!
Maybe it was Nancy Pelosi, if we are just making stuff.up.
Perhaps you should ask Liz Cheney if she recalls who made the statement,
If Liz Cheney. Made the claim in these comments threads, I cant call her a liar. I wasn’t there.
But you just made up lies. The Speaker of the House is a good target, so with zero facts, you just make up smears. You are a worthless waste of skin.
“Perhaps you should ask Liz Cheney if she recalls who made the statement.”
Perhaps you should get your sh!t straight for once before you post it, nincompoop.
Dennis constantly makes stuff up.
And he will be the 47th POTUS
LMAO at Dennis
No the real question is whether DM and his little commie-lib friends will apply the same standard (if you want to call it that) to Senator Menendez. Somehow I think not.
Hypokrisis indeed!
Dennis: It was Republican Rep. Mark Green of Tennessee who referred to Trump as the “orange Jesus”. It’s in Liz Cheney’s new book “Oath and Honor”, according to CNN.
Anonymous: See my response to Iowan2.
DM,
As always you miss the whole point.
You have zero reason to believe the Speaker of House made such a statement. So you just make it up. You smear the Speaker of House, because in your juvenile, troll brain it sounds good.
Every single one of your comments contain lies.
Why? Because the truth does not serve your goal.
What does Dennis really know about the real word of ;:,construction , zoning , land development , wetlands , nimbi, drawbridge , graft and corruption , in all govt, bureaucratic positions ?
Be careful, Dennis. You could be expelled from this blog if a vote were taken.
The question is why did congress make the mistake of expelling Santos.
Johnson is correct – this is not the standard that has been used for 250 years.
Why are people like you Rushing headlong to make mistakes ?
Absolutely Republicans participated in this.
That does not make it right.
Absolutely Santos is a bizarre character.
That can be said for much of the congress.
Absolutely he lied to get elected.
Again true of the president and congress.
At work, it has been my experience, that one can discern exceptional talent – as distinguished from credentials – fairly quickly. This brings into mind the H. L. Mencken quote, “It is the classic fallacy of our time that a moron run through a university and decorated with a Ph.D. will thereby cease to be a moron.” Although he was writing this at an earlier time, it still is even more apropos today.
Before Mencken was L. Frank Baum. The wizard can’t give the scarecrow a brain, so he gives him a diploma and remarks that many of those who have diplomas don’t have brains.
And Harvard doesn’t even have grades!!
“how school administrators have lost control”
Unless they are directing teachers to inflate grades or lessen the difficulty.
https://youtu.be/e2hO2tALgCY?si=WsqKlkKauTXNVGZB
I don’t have a problem with a high percentage of A’s so long as it is truly earned. There is a metric of expectations of what qualifies as excellent work. If a high percentage of kids actually achieve excellence, that’s the goal, right? The students mastered the material.
Makes me think of the movie Stand and Deliver–based off a real teacher and real students who pursued and achieved excellence.
It becomes a problem if it is unearned or doesn’t truly reflect excellence.
If they all achieve A’s fairly and have “excellence”, then the instructor is required to raise the difficulty of the course until their is a proper distribution, a few F’s, a few more D’s, mostly C’s, some B’s and a few A’s.
Recalling my teaching career, mostly at a just-barely research 1 university, the grades earned by the students in my ‘tough’ upper division classes were mostly A and B range grade. Occasionally a student would demonstrate insufficient grasp and receive a C. The only two grades of D were awarded to graduate students who never should have been admitted. Ordinarily students who weren’t so good at computer science didn’t continue to my classes.
To me, A range grades indicated that the student should continue directly to graduate school and I often individually encouraged those to do so.
The students in my lower division classes during my 3 years at UNC were of superior intellect. Grades reflected that.
Conjecturing and extrapolating, I strongly suspect that students admitted to Harvard and Yale earn A range grades by my standard.
David,
I have read that one can get a superb education in Harvard but you have to look for it. That suggests sifting through a lot of rubbish courses. Teaching actual physics courses your students would already have self selected for actual learning but that is less true in softer courses. A member of my family who got a BS in biology before her MD had received her first degree, a BA, in journalism/communications and was shocked to see how ignorant, incurious and actually stupid so many of the journalism students were. But they got good grades.
I have heard the same about Colleges of Education, having many family members who became teachers or administrators.
You were at the high end where you likely were not exposed so much to the rot.
Young, I taught computer science, not physics. And indeed, Harvard remains one of the top universities for mathematics, exceeded in the US by Princeton and Berkeley, but not otherwise, I opine.
The College of Education here had the poorest reputation, I agree.
David, thanks. For this purpose ‘same, same’..both intellectually demanding and, I suspect, both attracting bright, autodidact students with overflowing curiosity.
I have read that MIT has a super mathematics course, very demanding and populated mostly by Asian and Jewish students. I don’t know if that is entirely true but it would not surprise me.
Young, only some Asians and some Ashkenazi are sufficiently brilliant and motivated to be able to matriculate at MIT.
True. One of them, Asian, is my friend.
But, how many BLM supporters are likely to qualify?
Young, when I was young, my university started moving away from the curve long ago. Too many students were failing organic chemistry, a necessity for disciplines such as medical school, so instead of making them learn the material, they used a new textbook that contained a lot of algorithms. I didn’t understand the chemistry and couldn’t deal with the book. Fortunately, before I left, I bought the original textbook and used that textbook instead of the new one. It was at least three times the size with a much smaller print.
When my grad student graded my exam, he told me I failed with a 30. I argued with him that the expected answers were horrible and mine were correct; he sent me to the head of the organic chemistry department. After reviewing my results and noting that I got everything right, he asked me where I got those answers. I explained, and on the spot, he admitted what happened. I failed by, according to him, being a chemist. Others passed with flying colors but did not know introductory organic chemistry. He told me they would immediately go back to the old book.
What bothers me is that the grad student should have recognized my answers were the best possible at the time. Where does that type of teaching leave society in several years? We are seeing it today. We need natural chemists, physicists, etc., not those ignorant in the field given a passing grade.
S. Meyer, Many students hoping to become doctors are forever blocked by organic chemistry. I liked your account of resorting to an earlier more technically correct and demanding text when you found the newer volume to be rubbish. We do need natural chemists, physicists and computer scientists and I hope that their own curiosity and self-learnng combined with searching for good professors will fill the gap. I suspect that unless they pursue those subjects on their own to some degree they will never be very good at them in any case. In Jr High I had a Chemcraft Chemistry set in my basement that expanded into a sufficiently dangerous thing for law enforcement to tell me to knock it off with some things and promise not to do them again though I was allowed to keep the lab until a year later when I came close to setting the house on fire. I couldn’t suppress the flames right away because I was tending to my own burns, but after a bit I was able to put the fire out. I was only one of several in my school who enjoyed experiments. Most went into engineering or chemistry. All retired or dead now.
Young: Burst out laughing at your account. Cannot match your story, but I humbly offer my own biology experiment with my new Christmas present, a microscope science set (I was @ 11 or 12 y.o.). I collected some old cabbage leaves, put them in pond water in an old pickle jar with Saran wrap/rubber band over the top, put under my bed next to the wall. Wanted to examine the microorganisms… Forgot all about it….
In the spring, parents went upstairs to move around the furniture in my bedroom, knocking it over, and worse, onto the wall to wall carpet….I think the smell was enough to scare them into conjugal abstinence thereafter. oops.
Thanks Lin. The best part was that I didn’t need the skin graft my doctor thought I would need and I didn’t get scars–not from that anyway. Probably because I put my hand out in very cold water. At first I thought the twisted threads hanging from the edge of my hand were sulfur polymers and I was still shocked enough to be pleased while the lab bench was burning–never made that before–but they were only shriveled skin from the intense heat.
Your experiment reminded me of an experiment I had done about your age, maybe a year or two younger. I put oatmeal and maybe flour in a Mason jar with water, sealed it and set it aside. A couple of days later it was writhing with worms and I was young enough and stupid enough to think I had created new life. It scared me. I wanted it out of the house so I threw it in a dry creek bed about 50 yards away. The jar shattered and for a week or two I worried I had unleashed menacing new creatures on the world and had nightmares of worms, millions, of them swarming over the planet and into my bedroom. I was very young. And not much liked by the neighbors. I did other things. But at least the worms never attacked. I had that going for me.
Lin, Did you ever get to see microorganisms with your microscope? Sounds like a well considered experiment except for forgetting about it. Given the odor something fun was growing in there. If a boy doesn’t horrify or upset his parents at least once he has had a dull childhood. You could have repeated it and taken it to school…discretely of course. Spread the joy of science.
“Fortunately, before I left, I bought the original textbook and used that textbook instead”
What book? I do try to get the books recommended to me, or, at least add them to my list.
Prairie is not a book you would want, but if you buy it after one look at the pages, you will put it away. It might be the scariest textbook one might ever see. I recently purchased it to help my grandson with organic chemistry when he enters college. He wishes to go to medical school.
“Organic Chemistry by Morrison and Boyd 1,204 pages small print.
Take a look at it as a learning experience. You will be shocked.
S. Meyer If your grandson makes it through organic he likely will make it to medical school. Most of our friends are doctors and that is my impression. He is fortunate to have you. Medical school is a little easier than undergraduate in the sciences. He is over the biggest hurdle if he gets through organic.
Young, it is very difficult but his father (my son) is a doctor, so after reviewing the book I might get even with my son and leave it to him. I was fortunate. I loved organic chemistry and found the harder sciences easier to deal with than the rest of my classes.
Thank you!
Did you pass English Grammar 101?
You know, they say Einstein forgot to put his socks on.
I noticed the flaw in one sentence to David after I posted but the meaning was clear enough [to most] to not require my posting a correction. [Yes, I just split an infinitive. So what?] Usually I am more busy with typos than grammar since they happen often with me.
As to the other, perhaps Einstein didn’t like socks and didn’t care to explain. “I forgot” is easier than explaining the same thing over and again to people who have no business fretting over socks.
This was directed to David B. “Einstein” Benson who made a grammatical mess of the original post while posing as the Head of the Theoretical Physics Department.
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Did you pass English Grammar 101?
You know, they say Einstein forgot to put his socks on.
You can buy Grade “A” eggs, beef and now it seems even a college Degree! My degree comes from the School of Hard Knocks, where I had numerous financial failures and many successes. I had Degree’d individuals work for me from bachelor’s to doctorate to high school or not and found the individual mattered more, it all came down to their abilities to understand instructions, having a work ethic and desire to success.
This is remindful of a friend who’s has long passed. He was an Engineer and instructor at a major university. He taught for a few years and found he was disillusioned with teaching. He quit and went to work for a major oil company to only learn that his boss was a dolt where upon he quit and struck out on his own. He purchased a few natural gas well and immediately failed, as he told me, ‘I thought I knew everything only to learn I knew very little of value to run my own company’. He persisted and eventually owned (without debt) more than 100 natural gas and oil wells in the Permian Basin. You would never know he was a multi-millionaire if you had met him; he carried no heirs or conceit and attributed his successes to God’s grace and a lot of hard work. We spoke once about success and one thing stuck me that he said, “Never judge a man’s worth by the paper they have hanging on the wall”, worth was meant as character not monetary.
Jonathan: Every university student wants to get “A”s. In my experience getting an “A” on an exam motivated me to do even better. Students who got “C”s or “D”s were depressed and often dropped out of class. Not exactly a way to encourage those students to do better. I don’t think grades are predicted of latter success. And contrary to your claim, a GPA is is only part of employer’s evaluation of a prospective applicant–there are many only factors that are considered.
For years conservatives, like you, have complained about “grade inflation”. It’s part of the “culture wars–the attacks on “woke ideology” and university DEI policies. In 2018 the conservative Manhattan Institute had a rave review of Heather McDonald’s new book with the title “The Diversity Delusion, How Race and Gender Pandering Corrupt the University and Undermine Our Culture”. The title speaks for itself. McDonald thinks university DEI policies “corrupt” WHITE “culture'” and dominance.
Most conservatives, like you, claim university campuses are hostile to the the values of “meritocracy”, “free speech” and “colorblindness”. They want to go back to a system in grading where there are more “D”s and “F”s–to cull out the undeserving, Blacks and other minorities. Conservatives want tougher graders.
The reality today is that high school students are better prepared to get into colleges and universities. The number of students taking SAT-prep courses has increased dramatically. And their SAT scores are higher. Could it be university students actually deserve higher grades?
“They [conservatives/whites] want to go back to a system in grading where there are more “D”s and “F”s–to cull out the undeserving, Blacks and other minorities.”
Hmmmm.
I happen to recognize a few excellent, well-respected, and deserving Blacks –who got their degrees the hard-earned way like the rest of us.
Does Dr. Ben Carson or Condoleeza Rice cross your mind? I wouldn’t bat an eyelash if Condoleeza Rice and Ben Carson (both Republicans) were elected as our next president and vice president.
I would vote for both.
“The reality today is that high school students are better prepared to get into colleges and universities.”
Even Harvard and Yale would give you a failing grade for that statement
(addressed to Dennis)
“The reality today is that high school students are better prepared to get into colleges and universities.”
Randi Weingarten has done yeoman’s service making sure that that’s no longer true, what with her COVID lock-downs and all.
For years conservatives, like you,
Professor Turley is not a conservative, retard. You have been informed yet still keep making the same mistake.
nope he’s a full fledged member of the RWNJ club
Iowan2: If Turley is not a “conservative” why is he continuing to defend DJT and supporting articles of impeachment against Pres. Biden? And why does Turley continue to work for Fox News–not exactly a bastion of “liberal” thought? If you think Turley is not a “conservative” you are the one misinformed!
If Turley is not a “conservative” why is he continuing to defend DJT and supporting articles of impeachment against Pres. Biden?
I’ve explained this repeatedly.
But the truth is a leftist enemy.
Professor Turley does NOT defend President Trump. Professor Turley defends the Constitution, and the Rule of Law. You are all in a twist because the Constitution supports President Trump.
You are on the wrong side of the Constitution. Not unusual for leftists
“Students who got “C”s or “D”s were depressed and often dropped out of class.”
No they didn’t. They were partying their a$$es off.
And look at your logic, moron. If the response of a person making C’s is to quit rather than try harder, then they should be “culled”. Do you want that person working for you? Loser.
“The reality today is that high school students are better prepared to get into colleges and universities. The number of students taking SAT-prep courses has increased dramatically. And their SAT scores are higher.”
Are you even a little bit serious?? LIAR. Cite your source for that first statement. Also, you are really arguing that SAT prep courses prepare students for college???
Of course, if you were gullible enough to believe what you read in Vogue about AR-15’s ruining the meat, I guess you’ll buy anything.
“They want to go back to a system in grading where there are more “D”s and “F”s–to cull out the undeserving, Blacks and other minorities.”
I am sick to death of you posting your vile, despicable racist comments here and getting away with it. Tougher academic standards “culls” the blacks and other minorities???
Where is the monitor? I thought this type of openly racist comments would not be tolerated here.
“Students who got “C”s or “D”s were depressed and often dropped out of class.”
Just makin’ sh!t up. Most making c’s and d’s were partying their a$$es off.
More and higher SAT’s LMAO.
Just makin’ sh!t up. Loser. Have a trophy, Denny.
Off to enjoy some smoked deer hock that I shot with my .458 SOCOM chambered AR-15.
Jimmy: ““Students who got “C”s or “D”s were depressed and often dropped out of class.”
“Just makin’ sh!t up. Most making c’s and d’s were partying their a$$es off.”
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True. I got lots of them and graduated with a 1.6 GPA from high school and didn’t care. Not partying; just doing what I felt like doing and preferred that. Publ8c school wasn’t a good fit for me and they thought I wasn’t a good fit for them. At least we agreed on one thing.
Me too. Graduated from high school 88 out of a class of 188. Went on to become a Nuclear Engineer and was 5th in my class. Successful career in the Navy and now a successful business owner. Good thing I didn’t let a few C’s and D’s “cull” me.
Jimmy: “Good thing I didn’t let a few C’s and D’s “cull” me.”
Yes it is. That you would do so well after high school doesn’t surprise me at all. I’ve met several such now and oddly we all take a perverse pride in it.
This could be the equivalent to communist countries declaring that there are ample supplies of toilet paper and bread. Don’t believe your lying eyes, just believe the statistics that we have manufactured to hide the truth. What had been reputable degrees earned through the merit of great scholarly activities on both the student and faculty have now become the equivalent of the money in Venezuela – useless and worthless. How we can fix this and return to a nation built on merit will require an even greater “fundamental transformation” back to pre-“Great Society” legislation and that would require us telling a great portion of our citizenry that they are now totally responsible for their entire lives with no Uncle Sam sugar daddy paying their freight. Can we do this as a society at this point and disavow the notion of welfare state somehow being the duty of a nation to tend to its human flotsam?
“would require us telling a great portion of our citizenry [the truth] that they are totally responsible for their entire lives”
How to do this, though, without breaking everything? That’s the tricky part.
In any case, Churches, be ready to step up to the plate. Lots of people will need to be taught how to fish, so to speak. People–Churches need you.
And, my fellow Americans, what else can you do to help your fellow man learn to be responsible for his entire life? Teach gardening? Teach budgeting? Teach cooking from scratch? Care for little ones while their parents work two jobs? What sacrifices are you willing to make so our society doesn’t completely fall apart?
I think welfare (and a bunch of other budgetary items, including the military) should be greatly reduced, but I do think there needs to be some consideration for the truly indigent and disabled. Even the Founders sought to help widows and orphans, if I recall.
“For Jefferson, the abolition of primogeniture and entail was a far more important anti-poverty measure than poor laws providing housing and food for people in need. As Jefferson boasted to John Adams, “These [anti-primogeniture] laws, drawn by myself, laid the axe to the root of the pseudo-aristocracy.” Laws restricting the use and ownership of private property were remnants of feudalism, whereby the common people were kept in their place by discouraging property owners from making the most economical use of the property they had or by making it hard for the poor to acquire property of their own. In America, said Jefferson, “everyone may have land to labor for himself if he chooses; or, preferring the exercise of any other industry, may exact for it such compensation as not only to afford a comfortable subsistence, but wherewith to provide for a cessation of labor in old age.”[13]”
I earned a trip to the Dean’s office over this issue every semester for over two decades. When I started losing the argument, I left higher education.
It has always been known that for about – apparently 80% – of students that attanded top universities, the hardest part is getting in…
Is it remotely possible that aggressive affirmative action has watered down the faculty and student body to the point that affirmative action grading is now a must?
When the EDITOR OF THE HARVARD LAW REVIEW is caught on video tape attacking a kid peacefully holding an Israeli flag it tells us all we need to know about the student body these days. Think about people that held that position 30 and more years ago and now imagine this person being videotaped attacking someone for the flag they are holding.
Now as a side note, imagine if someone attacked a kid holding a pride flag. Can you say immediate expulsion?
hullbobby: I’m thinking of the female professor who tore down the peaceful students’ pro-life display table, then held a machete to a reporter’s neck when he came to interview her…do you remember that?
“fraternizing” with students is no longer a discernible indiscretion when it becomes increasingly difficult to tell who is instructing whom?
It’s not the trophy generation? Ahem. Who do you think are the professors these days, the oldest of them are in their early 40s now. The older folks tow the line for a variety of reasons. Yes, this is very much reflective of pretty much that entire smorgasbord, and colleges can’t very well fail the majority of their students and continue to operate, however slight a majority, which is likely the reality with student aged people these days. Until we stop pushing all of this to the side in an attempt to avoid taking responsibility, this will only get worse. And it does, every year. Call a spade a spade.