Oh Canada: Government Blocks Citizenship Due to Russian Conviction for Criticizing the Ukrainian War

I have long been a critic of Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau who has devastated free speech in that country while assuming sweeping authoritarian powers.  Now, his administration has blocked the citizenship of Maria Kartasheva because she has a conviction in Russia.  The crime? Free speech. Kartasheva was convicted in Russia for criticizing the war in Ukraine. She was literally pulled out of a citizenship ceremony by Canadian officials and now fears deportation and incarceration in Russia.

It is essential that we spread the word on Kartasheva’s situation to put pressure on the government to make sure that she is not deported and to finish its review of the case to move forward with her citizenship.

Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada yanked the citizenship application after learning of the conviction under Putin’s draconian laws. She was charged with the wartime offense of disseminating “deliberately false information” about Russia forces.

She has not lived in Russia since 2019 and has lived in Ottawa as a tech worker. She is also the co-founder of a  grassroots activist group for democracy in Russia. In other words, she is everything that you would want in a new citizen. Indeed, unlike Trudeau, she knows the value of free speech and how easily it is lost to government agencies.

Notably, the charge was based on two blog posts that Kartasheva wrote and published in Canada.  

She expressed disgust at reports in March 2022 that Russian troops had killed Ukrainians in the town of Bucha. Not only did she write the blogs while living in Canada, she notified Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada about the charges and supplied the underlying papers to the government.

Nevertheless, her citizenship ceremony was scheduled only to have an official block her from becoming a citizen.

Oh, but it gets even worse.

According to a press report, Kartasheva “was arrested in absentia by a judge sanctioned by Canada, and then convicted and sentenced to eight years in jail by a Moscow court that is also under Canadian sanctions.”

That brings us to the final and most chilling aspect of this drama. The Canadian government informed Kartasheva that her conviction in Russia aligns with a Criminal Code offense in Canada relating to false information.

That’s right. Canada is concerned because it also has criminalized speech and Kartasheva has used free speech to spread what her government considered false or misleading information.

For example, Section 372(1) of the Criminal Code of Canada makes it unlawful for any person to convey, cause, or procure to be conveyed false information with the intent to alarm or injure anyone.

The government cracked down on Internet speech despite opposition from the public and pushed 2021 Bill C-36 to impose $70,000 fines for legal content deemed “likely to foment detestation or vilification.”

So this brave woman made it all the way to the West to live in freedom only to find that Canada also puts people in jail for voicing dissenting or opposing viewpoints. The problem is not that Kartasheva is fundamentally different from most Canadians. The problem is that Canada is legally not that different from Russia on free speech.

154 thoughts on “Oh Canada: Government Blocks Citizenship Due to Russian Conviction for Criticizing the Ukrainian War”

  1. This is appalling. I really don’t understand the reasoning, if any, behind the prime minister’s decision. What is unacceptable about what the Russian/Canadian woman said? I honestly don’t understand.

  2. Surge Of Immigrants Affecting Canada

    The number of international students in Canada has skyrocketed over the last three years, with a 60 percent increase in the number of study permits processed by the immigration ministry. It completed more than one million new study permit applications and extensions in 2023, a record, up from 838,000 in 2022 and 560,000 in 2021.

    Study permits aren’t strictly capped, but permanent residencies do adhere to annual quotas. In 2022, Canada welcomed about 432,000 permanent residents, and of those, 95,000 were previously international students, according to a September 2023 report by four Canadian senators urging the government to address “program integrity issues.”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/06/world/canada/canada-immigration-international-students.html
    ………………………….

    This piece, from Saturday’s New York Times, explains how Maria Kartasheva fell through the cracks: ‘Canadian authorities are tracking too many foreign nationals’.

    Canadian conservatives might feel Trudeau has been ‘weak’ on immigration. In any event, Maria Kartasheva is ‘not’ a famous Russian known to all of Canada.

    1. Anonymous sez: Canadian conservatives might feel Trudeau has been ‘weak’ on immigration.

      Soviet Democrat Useful Idiot Apparatchiks might hope that they can redefine what conservatives believe in Canada, just as they attempt to redefine what Republicans believe in the US – for the same reasons.

      Let’s try this instead Canadian conservatives know that Trudeau has done nothing about Canada’s Illegal Aliens that illegally entered Canada, just as The Big Guy has first invited and then helped Illegal Aliens flood into America.

  3. In another revalation today, a little reported finding of the Durham investigation was that one of the US attorney’s participaying in the Trump attacks, was responsible for thwarting investigations into the Clinton Foundation pay for play scheme

  4. Turley’s no-rules comment section is off the rails AGAIN. And it’s usually the same clowns that are doing it. Even bars have bouncers for idiots that can’t behave. This place is pathetic.

    1. REGARDING ABOVE;

      That’s Tom/Estovir, the creep who’s been posting ‘steaming turd’ up and down these threads for weeks. Here he pleads for Turley to lock the liberals out! Because they are sapping Estovir’s capacity to keep them at bay.

    2. The comment section on this blog allows people to show us all who they are.

      This is not a bar, and no one is actually harmed by the posts here.

      There has been a growing number of juvenile, scatalogical, comments on this blog.

      Those posts do no actual harm to those they attack.
      But they do damage the credibility and reputation of those who post them.

      That is how free speech works.

      We have heard from those on the left that free speech can not be allowed – because misinformation will result, because people will be persuaded to beleive things that are false.

      Do you think any of the juvenile scatalogical ad hominem posts here are effective ?
      Do you think they build the credibility of those posting ?
      Do you think they persuade anyone of anything ?

      These posts are easy to ignore,
      There existance is of no cost to anyone – except the posters.

      1. I think that posters who are scatologically oriented might have a psychiatric problem, or were never potty-trained. They are easy to ignore.

  5. Canada is concerned because it also has criminalized speech and Kartasheva has used free speech to spread what her government considered false or misleading information.

    Americans were fortunate to have known freedom at one time, freedom to sing freedom to believe, freedom to reject evil and freedom to strive towards bigger and better things. It can still happen for the individual though even if America is now living in darkness

    Patricia Neway sings, Climb Every Mountain, Ed Sullivan Show, 1959
    Where there is beauty there is God

  6. O T
    Per DM, Ashli Babbit’s family has filed a wrongful death lawsuit against the US government for the killing of Babbit. In addition to obtaining personal justice, let’s hope their attorney opens the lid on some of the actions of the government before, on, and after J6.

    1. Edward Mahl is Tom/Estovir.

      Had Ashli Babbit been a Black man, forcing his way into government building, with an angry mob behind him, no Trumper would care about Babbitt’s death.

      1. What if an angry mob breached the White House grounds and started battering to invade the mansion itself. Would Marine Guards and Secret Service have no choice but to let the mob in??

        Tom/Estovir’s Ashi Babbit grievance is essentially making that argument Marines and Secret Service would have to open up.

        1. It is not true that the only choices available to the Capitol Hill police were (1) doing nothing and (2) killing a young woman crawling through a window.

        2. The WH is not the capital. Most of the WH is not open to the public and even the parts that are require permission to get it.

          Much of the capital is public. Further it is and always has been a forumn for free speech.

          Finally, If an unarmed person tried to break into the WH grounds – they would be arrested – not murdered.

      2. To the contrary, had Ashli been a black man there would have been three months of violent, deadly riots in all major American cities.

      3. The fact is the black officer who shot her was grossly incompetent. Evidently he had connections with someone in the Congress or Senate would save him from being canned earlier for leaving his firearm in a men’s bathroom. In reality a black man killing a white woman is so common it’s not any kind of news regardless of the circumstances. however the other way around would definitely bring on the Rage of the BLM supporters. the term Trumper is so mindless ,I supported Trump for only three reasons. one no more Foreign Wars, two forcing NATO to pay for its own defense, and three deflating the giant bureaucracy in Washington DC. I was not thoroughly convinced of his deep state claims until the Deep State proved it existed and that it was incredibly malign

  7. Jonathan: We all know Melania is MIA. Hasn’t been seen near her husband lately. She is not on the campaign trail holding TJT’s hand or making campaign speeches for him. And DJT is not a happy camper about that. So what is he doing about it? Well, you have to see DJT’s latest campaign video. It explains everything.

    The new video is entitled “God Made Trump”. That’s right. “God Made Trump” so he could be a “caretaker” on Earth—someone who could “fight the Marxists”, to “wrestle the Deep State”–so “God gave us Trump”. The narrator in the video says “God had to have somebody willing to go into the den of vipers, call out the fake news,…”. Well you get the picture. The video is dark and foreboding. And if you think I am making this all up watch it!

    And in the video DJT takes a swipe at his wife. There is one brief part where Melania is seen having lunch with some of her female friends. The narrator says Trump comes home “hungry” after a hard and long day and “has to wait until the First Lady is done with lunch” followed by a short clip showing Melania tripping near the Trump helicopter.

    The only person we see these days right next to DJT is Alina Habba. She’s there all the time–defending him in person or on social media. And you won’t see her trip. DJT feels betrayed by his wife who he thinks should be on the campaign trail holding hands–for appearance sake. So DJT does what he does best. Attack his wife.

    The contrast couldn’t be more stark. While DJT campaigns alone Jill and Joe Biden will be seen holding hands and campaigning together. But I guess it’s part of “God’s plan” for Trump. “God” is overlooking DJT’s transgressions–his sexual assaults and rape of other women, cheating on all his wives. All that is OK with the almighty because “God Made Trump”.

    1. Dennis.
      “God Made Trump” is a meme and not produced by Trump or his organization.
      Trump had nothing to do with the content.

      That Trump chose to share it likely means that he likes some of it.

      Joe is NOT campaigning. He is not up to it. Jill is there for Joe’s public appearances to keep him from getting lost or falling off the stage.

      The WH is not supposed to be the Memory care unit in a senior living center.

      BTW there were several Christmas and New Years Video’s put out by the Trump’s – featuring Melania.

      Lets see – a nut job who has accused something like 80 men in her book of Raping her – but NOT Donald Trump, who can not even establish when this alleged event occured and herself not only does not seem to know what happened but whether it was consensual

      That you beleive.

      But female SS agents, their wives, or Tara Reid – that is all lies ?

      In the recent Epstein document dump we learn that Bill Clinton likes them young.
      And Donald Trump banned Epstein from MAL for hitting on someone’s daughter.

    2. “Jill and Joe Biden will be seen holding hands and campaigning together.”

      You forgot this part: When Joe speaks, you can see Jill’s lips move.

  8. Here’s Tom/Estovir as Old Man From Kansas commenting on U.S. aid to Ukraine:

    “You and your ilk have buried hard working Americans under $34 trillion of debt with your forever wars. And that’s not to mention the hundreds of thousands killed in those wars”.
    …………………………..

    Tom/Estovir would have us believe that letting NATO collapse would be cheaper than bankrupting Russia.

    One should note the dollar’s strength is largely tied to U.S. power. If NATO goes down, the dollar goes down with it. Then all that debt becomes grossly inflated!!

    So letting NATO cave would be a classic case of ‘Penny wise, dollar foolish’.

  9. “Criminal Code offense in Canada relating to false information.”

    The Biden administration is not that much behind Canada. Tomorrow, if the Democrats are not completely thrown out of Washington we might all be in Maria Kartasheva’s shoes.

  10. Patriot Missiles Have Been A Huge Success For Ukraine

    But Republicans Will Cut-Them-Off At Trump’s Behest

    Since the start of the war in February 2022, Russia has directed more than 3,800 drones and 7,400 missiles at Ukrainian towns and cities. At the same time, Ukraine has become a testing ground for an array of air-defense systems, according to the Ukrainian military.

    In May and June (of 2023), during some of the most complex attacks involving drones, cruise missiles, ballistic missiles and hypersonic missiles, Ukraine’s two Patriot batteries shot down all 34 ballistic missiles that Russia had fired at Kyiv, according to a report by the Center for Strategic and International Studies, a Washington-based research organization.

    But White House and Pentagon officials have warned that the United States will soon be unable to keep Ukraine’s Patriot batteries supplied with interceptor missiles, which can cost $2 million to $4 million apiece.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/06/world/europe/ukraine-patriots-us.html
    ……………………………..

    House Republicans want to cut-off Ukraine because they want to see Biden defeated by Putin. Because party is more important than country to most Republicans.

    1. Look we all know you make your money through the military industrial complex, but you and your ilk have buried hard working Americans under $34 trillion of debt with your forever wars. And that’s not to mention the hundreds of thousands killed in those wars. So would you kindly f—k off and let others live their lives? Thank you.

      1. – $34 Trillion In Debt

        – $250 Trillion In Unfunded Liabilities

        The communists (liberals, progressives, socialists, democrats, RINOs, AINOs) have destroyed America—a dead nation walking.

        General Secretary and Dear Leader Obama is salivating, waiting for the U.S. to implode, providing him with the opportunity he has endeavored mightily to create to obtain order out of chaos, allowing America to rise from the ashes as the Phoenix under the banner of the communist “dictatorship of the proletariat.”

        Oh, Happy Day!

      2. $34 Trillion in debt from “forever wars”?? Care to provide specific references on that claim?

    2. One other thing, would you kindly get a job where you’re actually contributing to society? Because as it is you are nothing but a blood-sucking leach. Thank you.

  11. “UNDER THE CONSTITUTION”
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    “Now, [Trudeau’s] administration has blocked the citizenship of Maria Kartasheva because she has a conviction in Russia. The crime? Free speech.”

    – Professor Turley
    ____________________

    So, what you’re saying is that communists commit communism.

    So, what you’re saying is that “Oh, Canada” is a communist “dictatorship of the hired help.”

    So, what we know is that America is a communist “dictatorship of the hired help” under the principles of communism – those being central planning (compulsory EVs, solar panels), control of the means of production (unconstitutional regulation), redistribution of wealth, and social engineering – while strictly adhering to Karl Marx’s communist motto: “From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs.”

    The entire communistic American welfare state is unconstitutional including, but not limited to, admissions affirmative action, grade-inflation affirmative action, employment affirmative action, quotas, welfare, food stamps, minimum wage, rent control, social services, forced busing, public housing, utility subsidies, WIC, SNAP, TANF, HAMP, HARP, TARP, Health and Human Services, Housing and Urban Development, Environmental Protection Agency, Agriculture, Education, Labor, Energy, Obamacare, Social Security, Social Security Disability, Social Security Supplemental Income, Medicare, Medicaid, “Fair Housing” laws, “Non-Discrimination” laws, etc.Government exists, under the Constitution and Bill of Rights, to provide maximal freedom to individuals while government is severely limited and restricted to merely facilitating that maximal freedom of individuals through the provision of only security and infrastructure.

    Article 1, Section 8, provides Congress the power to tax for ONLY debt, defense, and “…general (all, the whole) Welfare…” – police, fire, mail, roads, water, electricity, heating fuel, rubbish collection, sewer, etc. – omitting and, thereby, excluding any power to tax for individual Welfare, specific Welfare, particular Welfare, favor or charity. The same article enumerates and provides Congress the power to regulate ONLY the Value of money, Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian Tribes, and land and naval Forces. Additionally, the 5th Amendment right to private property was initially qualified by the Framers and is, therefore, absolute, allowing no further qualification, and allowing ONLY the owner the power to “claim and exercise” dominion over private property.

    Government exists, under the Constitution and Bill of Rights, to provide maximal freedom to individuals while government is severely limited and restricted to merely facilitating that maximal freedom of individuals through the provision of security and infrastructure only.

    Karl Marx wrote the Communist Manifesto 59 years after the adoption of the Constitution because none of the principles of the Communist Manifesto were in the Constitution. Had the principles of the Communist Manifesto been in the Constitution, Karl Marx would have had no reason to write the Communist Manifesto. The principles of the Communist Manifesto were not in the Constitution then and the principles of the Communist Manifesto are not in the Constitution now.

    The Justices of the Supreme Court have failed to uphold their sworn-oath duty to “administer justice” “under the Constitution” per its “manifest tenor” and have allowed the incremental imposition of the immutably unconstitutional principles of communism in America, commencing in 1860.

    American freedom persisted for a mere 71 years.
    _____________________________________________________

    “…courts…must…declare all acts contrary to the manifest tenor of the Constitution void.”

    “…men…do…what their powers do not authorize, [and] what they forbid.”

    “[A] limited Constitution … can be preserved in practice no other way than through the medium of courts of justice, whose duty it must be to declare all acts contrary to the manifest tenor of the Constitution void. Without this, all the reservations of particular rights or privileges would amount to nothing … To deny this would be to affirm … that men acting by virtue of powers may do not only what their powers do not authorize, but what they forbid.”

    – Alexander Hamilton
    ________________________

    THE SINGULAR AMERICAN FAILURE – THE SUPREME COURT HAS FAILED TO FULFILL ITS SWORN OATH

    “I, ___ ___, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will administer justice without respect to persons, and do equal right to the poor and to the rich, and that I will faithfully and impartially discharge and perform all the duties incumbent upon me as ___ under the Constitution and laws of the United States. So help me God.”

    – Oath of the Justices of the Supreme Court

  12. The First Amendment is “choke words” for dictators. It’s not an iron clad guarantee but it does slow them down. Canada doesn’t have that particular safeguard, more the pity for them. Still we can’t be complacent. Liberty must be defended in every generation.

      1. Interesting. Here’s what an internet search tells me: In the Canadian Charter of Rights (which I figure is equivalent to the Constitution in terms of its rights guarantees), it says:

        2. Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms: . . . (b) freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication.

        If you had to reword it to be stronger, what would you propose (and what would be the process for getting that ratified)?

        1. What would I change in Canada’s charter regarding freedom of expression? Canada has hate crime laws. For example, I cannot display a Nazi swastika, or state that the holocaust never happened, as those violate hate crime laws. I cannot state that gay men should not donate blood because of the much higher likelihood of their donation being infected with the AIDs. virus. That last statement is true, but if a provincial or federal minister of Justice wanted to, I could be criminally charged. Don’t even THINK of dissing a transgender person, or stating that he/she/it is significantly more likely to have mental issues.
          So for starters, I would eliminate hate crime laws in Canada, since hate crime laws are “thoughtcrime”.

      2. That, sir, is a monumental oxymoronic contradiction in terms.

        If your “guarantee of free speech” is “not as robust as [oldmanfromkansas’] First Amendment,” you have a Pyrrhic guarantee; you have no “guarantee” at all.

        1. Uh huh… Before you criticize Canada, perhaps you want to look at what’s happening to free speech in your own country. You guys have not been doing such a great job of defending at the past little while.

          1. There is a danger that the emergent Democratic Party police state is influencing Canada and the rest of the world to do follow in our footsteps.

          2. Cannuck, a lot of us conservative/libertarian types on the blog are very concerned with what is happening in our country, for which I am thankful. However, instead of Canadian nationalism in support of Canada’s repressive state of affairs on this issue, you should enlighten us or agree that what we are seeing is horrible and should not occur in Canada or the US.

            1. I am not in support of Canada’s behaviour, and as a long time newspaper owner now retired, I’m sure you understand that. However, I also see a lot of pot calling the kettle black here. America has lots of issues regarding free speech that it needs to deal with. We’ve got our issues, I’m not entirely certain where it will go and I’m actually not real confident, given the state of our political class.

              1. Cannuck, this repression is familiar to Canada. Ezra Levant was a relatively unnoticed conservative who pointed out the faults of affirmative action hiring of indigenous persons and women in Western Canada three decades ago. That is very similar to what we are seeing with Harvard’s black female President (and others). As a journalist, you know that Ezra Levant founded Rebel News later. Canada has always been looked at as a more “civilized” nation than the US, but very quickly, it has become repressive.

                On occasion, I brought up Ezra Levant and, like other conservatives on this list, have been fighting hard against such repression in the US. The pot calling the kettle black is not an issue.

                1. I had occasion many years ago to correspond with Ezra over some issue or other. He’s always been a bit of a barnstormer, and we certainly need more like him in Canadian journalism. And yes, my country has become repressive. I don’t live there now, but it breaks my heart to see it.

                  1. Canucksaylor, do you live in the US now or elsewhere?

                    It breaks my heart what I am seeing in Canada and the US.

                    1. I live and travel on my sailboat. I’m anywhere from the Great Lakes to the Bahamas or Cuba. As bad as things are, I’m hopeful that we’ll pull out of this dive we’re in. Otherwise, the civilized world as we know it is done for.

                    2. Canucksaylor, that is very romantic. I prefer to live on islands that are populated. Being on a sailboat during a hurricane would probably ruin my day. 🙂

                    3. It would ruin mine also, so I don’t do that. Come hurricane season, I make sure I’m someplace safe, usually as far north as I can be, and well inland. The hurricanes I’ve been in, I’ve had the boat at a hurricane hole – a marina or other location that is protected from wind and wave action. Typically, a boater has a week to ten days from the first warning of a hurricane to find someplace safe.
                      The most danger I’ve ever been in from a hurricane was the hurricane parties with locals. My liver has been seriously endangered several times due to the very liquid hospitality of hurricane threatened southerners!

  13. As Biden and his Constitution hating Democrat/Uniparty continues to
    Implement policy, socially engineer and openly demand the criminalization of and incitement of hatred for:

    The United States

    The Constitution

    Constitutional Rights

    Exercising Constitutional Rights

    Those American Citizens who have the audacity to exercise said Rights and expect to live lives free of government oppression and abuse

    Normalize and make acceptable, even desirable and virtuous, abject hatred for and rage against said AmericanCitizens, Their Rights, Their Country

    Indoctrinate millions with hatred for those born a member of a race the left has deemed less worthy/unworthy of any Rights

    Incite hatred for and desire for revenge against American Citizens who continue to politically reject and defy the narrative that America and Americans must be subjugated and cease to exist as We know it in order to make the world a better place and who choose to continue embrace Freedom and continue to openly live a Rights based free lifestyle in an increasingly oppressive political climate,
    one question has to be asked of Biden and his Democrat/Uniparty.

    When Biden and his Democrat/ Uniparty fail to decimate every single American Citizen they have branded their enemy,
    what are their long term plans for the fates of those millions of American Citizens who continue to exercise their Constitutional Rights after the socially engineered new normal that basically soft abolishes Constitutional Rights by making basic survival in society nearly impossible for those that violate the new anti-Constitutional social norms, and those who continue to be a specific designated race that has been branded guilty of being the cause of all that is wrong in the world from the beginning of history because of their race and must, according to Bidens Democrat/ Uniparty narrative demands, be punished for being American Citizens who are unable to change their skin color and refuse to give up Their ConstitutionalRights?

  14. Professor Turley Writes:

    “Now, his (Trudeau’s) administration has blocked the citizenship of Maria Kartasheva”.
    ***

    Here Turley highlights a link from the Canadian Broadcasting Company. An objective reading of that article greatly clarifies the story. Consider the following paragraphs:
    ***

    Kartasheva heard of the charges in late 2022 and learned of her arrest in April 2023. She was in the midst of applying through the regular citizenship stream in Canada, but decided to notify the IRCC of the foreign charges right away.

    A few days later in May, Kartasheva received an invitation to her citizenship ceremony, so she assumed the Canadian government had understood her situation. However, just as she was about to take the oath of citizenship, the officiant asked the room a routine question about whether anyone had criminal charges.

    Kartasheva raised her hand, and she was told to step aside.

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/maria-kartasheva-russia-citizenship-conviction-1.7074233
    …………………………………

    KEY PASSAGES FROM ARTICLE:

    “she assumed the Canadian government had understood her situation”.

    “Kartasheva raised her hand, and she was told to step aside”.
    ***

    Everything we need to know about Maria Kartasheva situation is right here in these paragraphs.

    She “ASSUMED the Canadian government understood her situation” and “raised her hand when the officiant asked the room if anyone had criminal charges”.

    The officiant overseeing that citizenship ceremony was obviously NOT familiar with Kartasheva’s situation and, as a matter of routine procedure, asked her to step aside when she raised her hand to ‘pending criminal charges’.

    Anyone who’s ever dealt with bureaucrats should understand they only know what you tell them. Never ASSUME they know anymore!! If bureaucrats knew everything about every situation there would be no such thing as red tape.

    Yet Professor Turley implies that Kartasheva was rudely yanked from the ceremony which is NOT in this story.

    Professor Turley gets far too complacent from dealing with rightwing readers and viewers. Therefore he ASSUMES that no one will take the time to read linked articles.

    1. Morons are everywhere. It happened in MAY you claim. So plenty of time to straighten it out, which of course was refused.

      Nice try idiot.

      1. @Shakdi: “Nice try idiot.”

        Perfect example of psychological projection.
        You obviously know nothing about the bureaucratic constipation in the Canadian government in general and at the IRCC in particular. If you did you would never have sad anything as idiotic as “So plenty of time to straighten it out, which of course was refused.” Moreover, whatever she is in the process of appealing this stupendously silly bureaucratic decision which has not been refused — in all likely hood it remains a the bottom of a very large pile of appeals of equally silly bureaucratic obsequiousness to the turgid rules all government bureaucrats in Canada live by.
        If you bothered reading either of the articles listed you would realize this Turley has turned a despicable bureaucratic fumble (which is ubiquitous in Canada) into political issue of hyperbolic dimensions. While Trudeau is about as dispicabe a despot as you can fined in any “democracy” this issue of Canada’s bureaucratic constipation long predates his arrival on the seen.

    2. You missed the whole story

      That brings us to the final and most chilling aspect of this drama. The Canadian government informed Kartasheva that her conviction in Russia aligns with a Criminal Code offense in Canada relating to false information.

      This is NOT a bureaucratic snafu. It is an intentional stripping of rights for violation of CANADA law.

      You are they one failing to fully take into account the fact. Questionable, until you realize your only intention is an attempt to smear Prof Turely

  15. Jonathan: I title this comment “Much ado about nothing”. As everyone on this blog probably knows the DC Jan. 6 insurrection case before Judge Chutkan is on temporary stay pending a decision by the DC Court of Appeals on whether DJT can claim absolute immunity from criminal prosecution. During the stay Jack Smith has been providing more discovery material to DJT’s lawyers. He also filed a motion on limine–a pre-trial motion that seeks the exclusion of specific evidence or arguments from being presented during a trial. Smith’s motion is quite common in pre-trial proceedings.

    But DJT was outraged by Smith’s motion and filed his own motion with Judge Chutkan to hold Smith in contempt and asked for monetary sanctions for allegedly violating the stay. Most legal experts agree that DJT’s motion was unprofessional and ridiculous and will be summarily dismissed by Judge Chutkan. Why? Because pre-trial motions are not deemed “proceedings” ( briefing, oral arguments, etc.) under a stay order. During a stay either side can file motions that the other side can ignore and take them up later when the stay on the “proceedings” is lifted.

    But that is not what DJT did in this case. DJT’s lawyers filed their own motion attacking Jack Smith and Pres. Biden with all sorts of vitriolic claims–but short of any legal analysis. For example, on page 2 of their motion DJT claims that “the MIL [motion in limine] mirrors the Biden Administration’s dishonest talking points, asserting, again falsely, that President [former] Trump was responsible for the events of January 6, 2021, when in truth he called for peaceful and patriotic assembly and protest” and “the prosecutors have announced their intention to continue this partisan-driven misconduct indefinitely, effectively converting this Court’s docket into an arm of the Biden campaign”.

    In other words, DJT wants his lawyers to continue the false claim that his prosecution is being orchestrated by the “Biden campaign”. That is not an argument that a professional legal team would bring. Another illustration that DJT’s layers are burdened with a client who calls the tune and sets the agenda. And that’s why no reputable law firm will represent DJT. They would never file a motion like the one DJT’s lawyers just tried to foist on Judge Chutkan. DJT has been burdened with lawyers who really don’t understand pre-trial practice. Pre-trial motions do not constitute “proceedings” under a stay order. Or if they do understand, they are violating their professional responsibilities lawyers!

    1. Yeah sure thing tardo. Since bumblebrain the mumbler mob monster stood on the podium and declared he would not let Trump win, that they will do whatever it takes to stop it, Trump’s lawyers must be having an hallucination.
      Cram it.

    2. Chutkan stayed the case – because that is the requirements of the law.

      Two courts can not have jurisdiction over the same case concurrently. Chutkan can not proceed until there is a final determination on the current appeal.

      I would note that your legal experts are tying to parse words, While they are wrong on their read of the language.
      More importantly they are wrong, because Chutkan does not have jurisdiction over the case while another court is reviewing an appeal.
      There are constraints on this – when the scope of the apeal is narrow and does not effect the entire case.
      Trump’s ap[peal of Chutkan’s gag order does not stay the case. If Trump filed an appeal that challenged a specific charge – that appeal would only remove that charge from Chuktan’s jurisdiction.

      But right now the entire case is out of her hands.

      You note that Smith is proceeding – that is a violation of Chutkan’s order as well as the rules of court.

      If you have legal experts telling you otherwise they are WRONG.
      Both By Chutkan’s order and by the rules of court Chutkan has ZERO jurisdiction over this case right now.
      She can not do anything until the case returns from appeal. Smith is free to do whatever he plases – BEFORE THE COURT OF APPEALS.

      Trump has properly asked for sanctions against Smith as well as legal fees.

      Smith has infinite legal resources. Trump may be wealthy but he does not. Further there are not actually enough good lawyers in the country to flyswat all the idiocy that Bragg, James, Smith and Willis are engaged in.

      Regardless, one of the reasons for the rules of court that Smith is violating is precisely what Smith is doing
      Which is trying to consume Trump’s legal time in multiple venues concurrently.

      Chutkan is biased so it is unlikely she will properly apply the law and sanction Smith.

      But it should be clear that Smith’s conduct is wrong. If Smith should lose entirely or lose partially on appeal.
      All of what he is trying to force Trump to do right now would be wasted.

      Government is unfortunately allowed to drag people into court over garbage claims.

      They are not however free to force defendants to engage in lawfare in multiple courts concurrently over the same case, when a decision in one would turn all the effort in the other into waste.

      In another post you fixated on Alina Habba – Habba is a very successful Civil Attorney. The DC case is criminal.

      1. John Say: Your comment is a perfect illustration of why non-lawyers should never opine on legal issues they know nothing about. While Judge Chutkan’s case is stayed pending a decision by the DC Court of Appeals she still has “jurisdiction” to rule on pre-trial motions and make other orders. These are not “proceedings” under the law. Both parties are entitled to file pre-trial motions. Either party is entitled to ignore pre-trial motions that then can be taken up when the stay if lifted. It’s done all the time. So read the law before you make spurious claims that the case if “out of her hands”! You are in the same league as DJT’s lawyers–the only difference is that they should know better! I ascribe your comments to just ignorance!

    3. Dennis,
      you have a massive problem – not only are you wrong about the law.
      But it is obvious that you are. Ordinary cases do not proceed this way.

      Please cite a single instance anywhere ever where a prosecutors proceeds – even in part, while the foundation of the case in chief is being appealed.

      This NEVER happens.

      The NORM is that prosecutors proceed ridiculously slowly. They want the greatest delay possible. The only time prosecutors ever care about delays is if they are being charged with the time – I beleive the federal rules require the US Attorney to prosecute a case within 180 days, but nearly all delays are charged to the defense and do not count as part of that time.

      Cases like this usually take 24-28 months from indictment to the start of trial. Some take much longer.

      When the prosecutor is trying to rush – you KNOW that the driving factor is politics, not law.

    4. Pre-trial mothions are quite common – but the rules of court, and Chutkan’s order – consistant with those reuls are quite clear.
      Chutkan does not have jurisdiction over the case until it is returned from appeal.

      The case is currently before the DC court of appeals. Smith is free to file motions with that court. He is free to work on his case in cheif on his own. He is free to prepare motions for Chutkan’s court. But he can not file them, he can not engage in discovery. He can not do anything that requires the particupation of Chutkan’s court until the case returns to her court.

      I would note that this issue arrises commonly in local courts. Judges tend to NOT understand that when a case is being appealed, they do not have jurisdiction over the case. sometimes attorney’s respond to improper efforts of the other party to proceed while a case is being appealed.
      Usually they just completely ignore the party and the judge until; the case is returned.

    5. Dennis, you do not seem to understand – Democrats generally and smith specifically have walked into a minefield.

      A defendant in a criminal trial can seek to proceed quickly or slowly – their motives in proceeding quickly or slowly are irrelevant.

      But prosecutors are REQUIRED to act only driven by due process. A prosecutor can not have ANY poolitical reasons for indicting, proceeding, going fast, or going slow.

      Smith’s emergency brief to the Supreme court to jump the queue was vague and tossed out of hand – why ? Because though he did not write that, the only reason Smith has for Jumping the Queue is the upcoming election. But Smith is forbidden from acting based on the election.

      Yopu can expect Trump to do everything possible to delay all of these cases. You can expect Smith to try to keep them moving.
      But Smith can never admit why. And Trump and his lawyers will have a field day with that.

      Separately by moving forward on these cases – you have created a mess for DOJ and President Biden.

      Neither the president, nor DOJ can legitimately comment on an ongoing cause. That is predjucial to the case and could warrrant dismissal, or further delay, and sanctions.

      But Trump is not currently president and even if he were, he is the defendant. He can say whatever he wants.
      Again you can expect Trump and his lawyers to repeatedly argue that Smith and DOJ and Biden are engaged in a political vendata.

      Anjd If Smith and Biden are not very careful – Trump could win on such claims.

      Regardless, the entire world knows – this is all about the election – you would not be raising this as an issue if you were not desperate to convict Trump before the election.

      You are free to want that. But Smith. DOJ, Biden are NOT free to strive to do that.

    6. Trump has also filed a motion mirroring Former US AG Meises Amicus challenging Smith as improperly appointed.

      That was a stupid error on the part of Garland. There have only been TWO Special Counsel’s ever that were not US Attorney’s are the time of their appointment as special counsel. Mueller and Smith.

      The law is quite clear that even junior officers in the US federal executive must be appointed by the president and confirmed by congress.
      SCOTUS has found that a presidnt can appoint someone who already has senate approval to another position requiring senate approval.

      But SCOTUS has also been clear. Every officer in the US Federal EXecutive must be appointed by the current president, and confirmed by the senate.

      Smith was neither. This is a constitutional requirement and one that SCOTUS has a long history of enforcing.

      I am not sure what the outcome of this challenge might be. But it likely will go all the way to SCOTUS – and during the apeal the DC and FL causes will be dead. And if SCOTUS decides it quickly – the likely decision will be to can Smith.

      Smith’s case can survive – Garland can just apoint a new SC who is a current US attorney. But this error on Garland’s part will result in more delay.

      1. I suspect that if you’re correct about Smith getting canned, the outrage in America will be such that the cases will be dropped. In any event, if Smith is canned over this, you can say hello to the 47th president, Donald J. Trump.

        1. Canucksaylor, I agree with you that DJT will be President if Smith is canned, but don’t you also believe that in a fair and legal election, Trump will be President without that happening?

    7. It is interesting that so much of what the Left does challenges fundimental principles of the constitution or decisions of law.

      You have claimed that presidential immunity is a specious argument.

      Yet, the single most important supreme court decision in US History
      Marbury v. Madison disagrees.
      Marbury explicitly found that courts can nor review the official actions of the president.
      As I fully expect you to try to make hay out of “official” – Marbury made clear that the explicitly defined by law actions of the chief executive are subject to judicial review – if they violated the rights of individuals and they did not violate clear dictates of explicit law.
      Conversely where the constitution delegates a power to the executive, or Congress delegates a power to the president, the exercise of that power is outside the review of the courts. This is a CORE part of separation of powers.

      ALL The Actions that Smith and Willis seek to prosecute fall under the official acts of the president AND the political questions prohibitions of Marbury.

      The ONLY means by which the official acts of presidents or acts that fall under political questions are “reviewable” is by impeachment and subsequent conviction at a trial by the senate.

      Contrary to your claim that Trump’s immunity claim is weak – it is actually quite strong.

      It is beyond any doubt at all that the executive branch of the federal govenrment has the authority to investigate and possibly prosecute chicanery in federal elections.
      All federal executive power is vested in the president.
      Every single allegedly illegal act that Trump purportedly performed is consistent with the executive powers regarding federal elections.
      The very claim that those on the left make that Barr or others in the Executive explored these allegations and found them unsubstantiated makes it CLEAR that investigating them is a legitimate executive power – No one is charging Barr with conspiring with Trump – Because Barr reached a conclusion that you like. But you ARE charging Trump for acts identical to or very similar to those Barr performed or others in DOJ/FBI performed or could have performed – because you disagree with the conclusions that Trump reached.

      Worse still for you – the entirety of the SC investigation of Trump rests on exactly the same premise as Trump’s post election actions.
      If the SC has the authority to investigate claims regarding the 2020 election – then the president has the same power and authority.
      If Trump’s actions are outside the powers of the executive – so are Smith’s.

      The Remedy when the official actions of a president offend your sensibilities is impeachment, and conviction in the Senate.

      I would further note that Marbury is also the source of the overlapping “political questions” doctrine. The courts do not have a voice in the discretionary choices of the executive in executing their powers.

      Marbury bars Smith as well as Willis and the Colorado SC from not merely removing Trump from the ballot, but even investigating or indicting him for official acts.

      Contra Chutkan this does not place the president above the law. If Trump went out on the street and murdered someone – that is not an official act. Conversely if Trump – as Obama did ordered the murder of a US citizen in a foreign country by Drone attack (or any other way),
      Trump or Obama could be impeached for that, but without impeachment he can not be prosecuted. National security is an official power of the president. Election integrity is an official power of the president.

      I would further note that as Meadows claimed – the bar of the courts to examine the official acts of the president extend to those in the government working at his direction.

      It might be useful to review Marbury with you as even the FACTS directly relate to this case.

      As the Adam’s presidency ended, Adams rushed to appoint a number of federalists to magistrate positions.
      He made the appointments with 3 days left in his presidency.
      The Senate confirmed those appointments the next day.
      The executive then delivered most of the commissions on the following day. But a few magistrates including Marbury did not receive their commissions because Jefferson took office the next day.

      The court under John Marshall found:
      That Marburies apointment was legal, constitutional and proper.
      That the supreme court had the power of judicial review, and that Marbury’s appointment was constitutional.
      That the federal judiciary act empowered the supreme court to order jefferson to deliver his Commission to Marbury.

      BUT the supreme court found two more things
      that the federal judiciary act was unconstitutional – because it expanded the power of the federal judiciary.
      That Jefferson delivering a federal magistrate commission to Marbury was an official act of the executive and not subject to judicial review.

      Inarguably investigating federal elections is an official act of the executive that is subject to discretion.

      The existance of Smith as Special Counsel PROVES that.

      I would separately note that Smith and Colorado have a separate problem.
      There was no insurrection.

      The house impeachment impeached Trump for inciting an insurrection. Loosely speaking that is the equivalent of an indictiment.
      With about the same legal import.

      But the Senate did not even come close to convicting.

      Whether you like it or not that is a binding finding of fact.
      Either the Senate found that there was no insurection, or it found that Trump did not incite an insurrection.

      Regardless, you have a conclusion of FACT by the US Senate that even if the courts could get past Marbury V. Madison, they still would be barred from attempting to reverse.

    8. According to CNN there is another development in the Willis case.

      There were always problems with the plea deals that Willis concocted.

      As a rule in return for a lenient sentence those taking a plea deal – especially early pleas are required to plead guilty to pretty much everything including the kitchen sink. This is typically required because a deal in return for cooperation has no teeth absent a plea establishing the leverage for that cooperation.

      Even where the plea is for a lessor crime – the norm for pleas in return for cooperation is NOT to plead to lessor crimes but to plead in return for a sentencing deal, regardless, when the plea is to a lessor crime, the defendant is usually required to allocute to everything – even those crimes not charged – again this is for leverage in the future to assure cooperation.

      Finally the judge is NOT supposed to accept a plea deal unless the defendant allocutes to all the elements of the crime they are pleading to.
      That is true for all guilty pleas.

      None of that happened with any of the Willis please.

      Every Plea Deal Willis has thus far: is for a trivial crime, that the defendant did NOT allocute to the elements of – they merely plead guilty.
      They were each required to write a letter of appology to the people of Georgia, and in return received no sentence, and fundimentally no punishment. These were all lawyers and the plea deal prohibits its being used to disbar them. They all recieved unsupervised probation.
      and they all will have their records expunged.

      Ellis wrote a long emotional apology which she read publicly. She said she was naive, and mislead and should not have beleived things she beleived, but she never actually admits to wrong doing.

      One of the other lawyers drafted a long appology “brief” where he appologizes for NOT committing a crime.

      Chesboro appologized in two short sentences – admitting nothing.

      But Powell made it pretty clear she is completely hostile to Willis and has in fact “owned” her in this deal

      Her apology is three handwritten words – “I am sorry”

      More recently these lawyers have been deposed by Willis in order to bolster her case against Trump.
      Purportedly parts of their testimony has been leaked.

      Regardless, CNN reported that none of them gave Willis anything, and they have all essentialy made themselves defense witnesses that Willis can not use.

      Chesboro testified that all his actions were legal and that he acted on his own and had no communication with Trump.

      Powell testified that all her actions were legal and done on her own initiative.

      Presuming the CNN reporting is correct – Willis is in trouble. Not only can’t she use these people as witnesses, but she must report their testimony to Trump as brady material.

      She has secured 4 guilty please which have no consequence, give her no leverage, establish no useful facts, and her “witnesses” who a cooperating are tearing her case apart right in front of her.

      Of course all this presumes that Willis will EVER be able to get to trial.

      If you think any of this will get to trial before the election – you are deluded.

      It is probable that the 5th circuit might make short work of Trumps immunity claims,
      But it is highly unlikely that SCOTUS will decide quickly in Smith’s favor on a case that cites Marbury V. Madison on point.
      The only likelyhood of a quick ruling by Scotus is one in favor of Trump.

  16. Reprehensible and absurd, but that’s modern Canada, eh (or any other country that decided it was at any point better off sticking with Britain) I actually think the era of Obamas and Trudeaus and their ACTUAL cronyism and fascism is beginning to wind down, but another poster quoted Churchill regarding fascism the other day, and this is likely a beginning of the end, not the end itself. It’ll likely get worse before better, but I’m sure many see the stirrings, too.

    Vote your little behinds off this year. We do not have to end up like this, and Biden has very nearly said voters are next – being either pro(dem ruled) America or pro insurrection (anyone that opposes dem ruled America) are your options to the DNC. Their cards are very squarely on the table, and just remember his actual approval is 30% or less in spite of their authoritarian chicanery. I’m sure Trudeau’s is even lower, but Canadians are not permitted to say such things out loud.

      1. @Shane

        Yes, he did, thank you. I’m not sure we’re at the end of the beginning yet, but the shoots are definitely sprouting.

    1. Yea, we’re allowed to say such things out loud. Really. But to your point, Trudeau was last elected with 31% of the vote vs the Conservatives getting 34%. In a parliamentary system, two parties may link up to form a governement and that’s what happened. The far left NDP linked up with the Liberals and we this little piece of feces got to remain in 24 Sussex. Unfortunately, we do not have an Electoral College type establishment that would prevent this.

      1. @canuck

        I know, I was being hyperbolic. The fact that any speech could be prosecutable is not ‘free speech’, so it might as well be so. It’s a shame, Canada is a beautiful country that deserves better.

    2. “It’s time to stop talkin’ and start chalkin’!”

      – Chick Hearn, Sportscaster, L.A. Lakers

  17. Dear Prof Turley,

    Notwithstanding Trudeau and Oh Canada!, I think one would be hard pressed to find a more fractured, corrupt and destabilizing ‘democratic country’ in the world today. It’s a low-down crying shame .. . and mores the pity.
    [truth is; most countries probably look upon Biden with the same revulsion, dread and fear many here do domestically. .. except in Russia where they ‘celebrate’ Biden’s abject economic incompetence.]

    ‘Free speech’, the apple of your eye, and the ‘shining city on the hill’ (‘democracy’) has been reduced to scripted Biden campaign mumbles on the unique evils of insurrectionist Trump and his MAGA minions. An existential threat to ‘freedom’ worse than Hitler Nazi Germany, to hear Biden tell it.

    Our vaunted ‘free press’ is a wholly owned subsidiary of 3 or 4 or 1 giant global conglomerate managed by well-paid-placed ‘fact checkers’, ‘terms of service’ agreements and ‘disinformation review boards.’

    *Oh Canada! https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/24/nazi-linked-veteran-ovation-zelenkyy-canada-visit-00117857

  18. She told the truth about the lies concerning Bucha.
    Only telling the truth is a crime to the corrupt western government’s nowadays.

    1. James, dogsnowden and Shakdi are all Tom/Estovir, our resident puppeteer.

      Every day one can find these puppets posting in blocks to amplify Tom/Estovir’s twisted spin.

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