The University of California (San Francisco) is under fire this week after hosting a racist speaker who attacked white people as psychopaths and claimed that black women could be legally raped. A conservative campus group posted clips from the event in which author Dante King lambasted the United States and its institutions as racist and maintaining a white “rape culture.” Imagine if a speaker or professor gave a lecture that called blacks “psychopaths” and responsible for a rape culture. The university would be quickly shutdown in a campus-wide effort at introspection, condemnation, and healing. Instead, King’s lecture was followed by applause.
During the Black History Month event, King delivered a lecture titled “Diagnosing Whiteness and Anti-Blackness: White Psychopathology, Collective Psychosis and Trauma in America.”
He explained how
“whites are psychopaths… and their behavior represents an underlying, biologically transmitted proclivity with roots deep in their evolutionary history. How many of you can see the proclivity that evolved deep within the evolutionary history of Whiteness? By show of hands, how many of you could see it? Some people are sitting here, ‘Oh no, I don’t want to raise my hand,’ that’s called denial.”
King said he is not worried about how the whites in the audience react because he does not value or prioritize their feelings or views: “I’m not seeking agreement from White people at all. I don’t prioritize Whiteness or White people in my work in that way.”
There was little need to consider any whites on campus and what they think because “I think Whites are psychopathic. I think there are many lies. The level of lying that White people do that has started since colonialism. We’re just used to it.”
He also denounced the United States and its institutions as based on “anti-Blackness” as “the foundation of all American, all White American institutions.” Presumably, that is why
“there is no discussion about the delusions and the perversion of Whiteness. Say this with me: rape culture in America is a legal, economic, and moral institution. So we’re going to…we have it written in the law, you can rape Black women – but we’ve never been a racist country. This goes beyond gaslighting, and it’s rooted in psychological delusion. “
UC-San Francisco is full of faculty who have expressly committed themselves to being anti-racist but there was nary a complaint about this vehemently racist lecture.
There is nothing new. As we have previously discussed, professors have advocated “detonating white people,” denouncing police, calling for Republicans to suffer, strangling police officers, celebrating the death of conservatives, calling for the killing of Trump supporters, supporting the murder of conservative protesters, and other outrageous statements.
University of Rhode Island professor Erik Loomis defended the murder of a conservative protester and said he saw “nothing wrong” with such acts of violence.
Last year, Hunter College Professor Shellyne Rodríguez was only fired after being arrested for holding a machete to the neck of a New York Post reporter and threatening to “chop you up.”
Yet, she was not fired after she destroyed the pro-life display of a group of students. It was only later that she was fired after holding a machete to the neck of a journalist.
They are all part of the radical chic of academia and they have little fear of repercussions for their rhetoric.
Conversely, there is little tolerance for conservatives who seek to express their views.
The suspension of Ilya Shapiro is a good example. Other faculty have had to go to court to defend their free speech rights. One professor was suspended for being seen at a controversial protest.
We discussed how St. Joseph’s University refused to renew a contract for a professor who actually prevailed in such a free speech fight. A conservative North Carolina professor faced calls for termination over controversial tweets and was pushed to retire. Dr. Mike Adams, a professor of sociology and criminology, had long been a lightning rod of controversy. In 2014, we discussed his prevailing in a lawsuit that alleged discrimination due to his conservative views. He was then targeted again after an inflammatory tweet calling North Carolina a “slave state.” That led to his being pressured to resign with a settlement. He then committed suicide just days before his last day as a professor.
Yet, to even criticize an extremist speaker like King is to risk being ostracized and cancelled by one’s colleagues. Instead, you have professors and students sitting and listening to a virulently racist diatribe . . . only to politely applaud at the end. It is hard to see how this is any part of a celebration of Black History month as opposed to its debasement. To use this month to voice racist tropes and attacks should be offensive to everyone.
My greatest concern is not that offensive views are being shared on campus. King should be protected by free speech values and campuses should be places where a wide variety of viewpoints are heard. Rather, my concern is that such tolerance only seems to run to those on the far left. It is not evidence of the diversity but the hypocrisy and orthodoxy in higher education.
The ‘Great Emancipator’ and the Issue of Race
Abraham Lincoln’s Program of Black Resettlement
“If all earthly power were given me,” said Lincoln in a speech delivered in Peoria, Illinois, on October 16, 1854, “I should not know what to do, as to the existing institution [of slavery]. My first impulse would be to free all the slaves, and send them to Liberia, to their own native land.” After acknowledging that this plan’s “sudden execution is impossible,” he asked whether freed blacks should be made “politically and socially our equals?” “My own feelings will not admit of this,” he said, “and [even] if mine would, we well know that those of the great mass of white people will not … We can not, then, make them equals.”5
One of Lincoln’s most representative public statements on the question of racial relations was given in a speech at Springfield, Illinois, on June 26, 1857.6 In this address, he explained why he opposed the Kansas-Nebraska Act, which would have admitted Kansas into the Union as a slave state:
There is a natural disgust in the minds of nearly all white people to the idea of indiscriminate amalgamation of the white and black races … A separation of the races is the only perfect preventive of amalgamation, but as an immediate separation is impossible, the next best thing is to keep them apart where they are not already together. If white and black people never get together in Kansas, they will never mix blood in Kansas …
Racial separation, Lincoln went on to say, “must be effected by colonization” of the country’s blacks to a foreign land. “The enterprise is a difficult one,” he acknowledged,
but “where there is a will there is a way,” and what colonization needs most is a hearty will. Will springs from the two elements of moral sense and self-interest. Let us be brought to believe it is morally right, and, at the same time, favorable to, or, at least, not against, our interest, to transfer the African to his native clime, and we shall find a way to do it, however great the task may be.
– Robert Morgan
O T – I implore anyone in any doubt about the bad intentions and bad actions of Democrats regarding electoral politics to listen to the Will Cain interview of Matt Taibbi on youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lv1fGGbK-90 (“Taibbi: Leaked document details how far they will go to stop Trump | Will Cain Show”) [Feb 8, 2024]
Thx for the link to the Will Cain/Matt Taibbi interview. Very interesting.
There’s two things that trump supporters hate, being called a racist and people of color. Now, not all trump supporters are racist, but most racists are trump supporters. Today’s post by Turley is meant to fill the rage, right out of the FOXNEWS programing agenda. Leave it to Hannity Turley.
Funny, the only people promoting hate and rage are you and bob.
Floyd, Lin, OLLY, Estovir and I are all having a very interesting, rational, reasonable discussion.
But all you can focus on is hate, rage, death and destruction.
How sad.
Hey Upstate, don’t forget me too. I am with you Estovir, Lin, Olly, Floyd, Karen S, John Say and many other cogent thinkers. Bob, Dennis, Fish Wings, Svelaz and many of the Anonymi (I just made up that word) need to be laughed at.
HullBobby,
I was referencing a on going discussion below, starting with Floyd’s satire about being the Grand Wizard of the KKK, and the Robert rounding out the discussion with the 1965 recording of Paul Harvey’s “If I Were The Devil.”
Lot of good discussion going around.
I found the discussion of pigmentation, DNA, human origins, IQ and civil rights very interesting.
You and many others also tend to add to interesting discussion.
Yes, Upstate, she’s the epitome of Bezmenov’s “demoralized”. If ever something interesting, rational or reasonable came from that creature, rest assured it came from an imposter.
Upstate, my feelings are hurt that I was left out. Oh well, lawyers get no respect.
We should just create a name like the basket of deplorables, shortened to “Deplorables”, that are routinely defending this country, the rule of law, unalienable rights and our constitution. If anyone has been missed, just declare “I’m a deplorable too!”
Here is a list to get us started:
Jonathan Turley
Darren Smith
mespo727272
Estovir
UpstateFarmer
Lin
Olly
Floyd
Karen S.
John Say
hullbobby
honestlawyermostly
S. Meyer
Young
James
Iowan2
guyventner
Sam
whimsicalmama
George
Robert Vanbuhler
Antonio
Diogenes
Margot Ballhere
Daniel
E.M
TIN
Fran Macadam
Concerned Citizen
Epstein did not kill himself
skyraider1717
Cionnath
Kevin Hornbuckle
GEB
Edwardmahl
Grima Squeakersen
Ex Dem
Mary
Granny62
n.n.
Burt
EV Hall
Those that are routinely attacking everything we stand for, we can call the basket of demoralized, shortened to “Demoralized”.
Gigi
Dennis McIntyre
Bob
Bug
FishWings
Svelaz
Bill G
Anonymous
or we could call them the “basket of deportables”
Anon– That’s actually kind of funny. Particularly since we may have to deport ourselves if your lot keeps getting it’s way in destroying the country. Should be a lot of empty places to go to since Biden is escorting everyone in here.
(Actually, that comment was from me (@3:08) and I was referring to the bottom/smaller group of eight.) sometimes I hit send before completing…
I neglected to include JAFO. He is a deplorable too.
OLLY,
Great scott, do you have all those memorized?
If so, I bow down to your memory!
😎 Oh, he!! no. Most of that list was just those commenting on this post. As I put that list together, I was impressed by the volume of unique names that are “deplorable” compared with the “demoralized”.
OLLY,
HA! Thank you for the laugh!
It is times such as these, reading the comments, I do think a Res ipsa loquitur, three day, two night get together in the Shenandoah National Park, 75 miles West of DC, I have been there more than a few times, would be cool to meet some of the “deplorable,” and perhaps knowing his love of hiking in the wilderness, the good professor himself.
I think the conversation in front of a good camp fire after a good meal would be truly interesting.
Upstate, that is a great idea! We could have an annual retreat, meeting at a different location each year.
Proud to be named in the first section of your list. Thank you! I do need to opine that the attribution of “demoralization” as the main motivation of the second group is, at best, naive.
You are very welcome Grima! The “demoralization” moniker was merely a shout out to the late Yuri Bezmenov.
Honestlawyermostly,
Gents! Gents! Please! I was referencing a discussion on going below! No offense or hurt feelings implied at leaving you out! At the time, those were good people who had so far commented.
There may be more now.
And as I noted above to HullBobby’s comment, there are many here who add to good comments and discussion, just so many to remember!
My most sincere apologies to those whom I may have offended.
I certainly don’t look at my posts as “promoting hate and rage”. But I am beginning to understand that trump supporters must look at the truth, see how disgusting trump is, then act just like trump and accuse the opponent of doing everything trump is doing.
trump said he would help Russia invade NATO countries that don’t “pay their NATO bills”
trump was found liable for sexual assault of a woman.
trump said grab em by the pussy might be good might be bad depends how you look at it
trump said McCain was a loser because he was shot down and became a prisoner of war
trump mocked Nikki Hailey’s husband who is serving in the National Guard
trump is the one who called the Georgia Sec of State and said find me 11,000 votes
trump is the one that buried his ex wife in his golf course (who does that?)
So what have I said that promotes hate and rage? Are you realizing what a disgusting person trump is and looking in the mirror and realizing you have some of the same disgusting attributes as your orange god trump, that you are hating and raging at yourself?
@FishWings
What’s a ‘Trump supporter’? You seem to think that the rest of us fit into tiny little boxes in a mushroom headed little world just like the one you inhabit. It’s a big, big country, with many cities and districts, and a great many of us are actually simply looking at the state of things and how we would prefer them to be in a society where presumably we all still have a voice, and acting accordingly. that this has landed on such a microcosmic level and is raising eyebrows should give you great pause. I’m sorry you cant make sense of the world without other-approved demarcations. That is really sad, being a slave to your own brain. You have my pity. I understand why a person who is so beholden to their own habitual thinking would act out, but spare the rest of us.
If your comments were the least bit salient, *ever*, and without the invectives born of some pathology that only you possess, we’d take them a lot more seriously. And that assumes that you are not paid. And if that is the case, and it might very well not be, to your bosses, clearly the brain games you are trying to play aren’t working. I’m going to vote, and I will never vote, as an independent, for a democrat ever again. That is written in stone. Your party is a joke. Not interested. Whether they articulate it similarly or not, neither are at least 86% of us.
James,
Great comment.
This is one examples of leftist thinking, the attempt to put everyone in a box. Starts at academia level. Their attempt to define everyone in absurd definitions. Then we do not fit in their little boxes that contradict or challenge their thinking, they fall back to the most insulting thing they can think of.
Take the good professor. Is he a Trump fan? Ah, no. Hardly. But what the good professor is doing is pointing out the corruption, the anti-Constitution leanings, the cancel culture, wokeism, that has consumed his party. They have to equate that to professor Turley is for Trump, a Trump fan, etc. To do otherwise would be to admit that this is not the Democrat party of JFK. And life long liberal Democrats like Bill Maher, Elon Musk, James Carville, the good professor, and my own sister all see it and are calling those woke leftists out.
My own sister has written to both the DNC and Biden campaign that if the Republicans put up someone other than Trump, she will vote Republican. Otherwise, she is going to sit this one out.
There are a lot of JFK Democrats out there whom are very displeased with the woke leftist direction the DNC has taken. As we have seen, there are a lot of Black, Hispanic, Asian and even Jews who they too are displeased with the Democrat party leaders. Some are down right angry refusing to vote in this election and even some considering voting for Trump over Biden.
Those are facts our leftist friends do not want to admit.
And, that voting for Biden is to vote for more war, more death, more destruction. Even to the point of WWIII and total nuclear annihilation.
“Beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder.”
– Plato
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Plato perceived beauty because he compared it with the absence of such. The absence of beauty, its inverse, exists. People enjoy the natural and God-given freedom of choice, distinction, and discrimination. The only thing nature and God provided was freedom—”If you can keep it.” No person has any authority to compel the perception of beauty. No person has any authority to order acceptance or rejection.
I really don’t understand your obsession with dictatorship and dominion over other people who are actually destined to be free under God, nature, and the Constitution. You don’t like freedom. You don’t like the Constitution. You don’t like the Bill of Rights. Your communist welfare state is counterintuitive, illicit, irrefutably antithetical to the United States of America, and absolutely unconstitutional. God and nature put Homo sapiens sapiens on this planet to take care of themselves or to fail to do so. God and nature did not create humans as dependents, leeches, and parasites. There is no such thing as a natural and God-given welfare department or distributor of affirmative action. The communist American welfare state is unnatural, ungodly, wrong in its essence, despotic, and illegal.
Free people may perceive a distinction by any criteria they choose.
Bodily injury and property damage are criminal.
FishGuts wrote: “most racists are trump supporters”
Dante King is a self-avowed racist. Judging from the reported reaction to his speech, most of his audience members also qualify. How many Trump supporters were there in that crowd, do you suppose?
Yeah, except for the 100% required racism of the demoncrats, who as we see above, are required to hate white people.
It’s nice to see your hate whitey racism on top instead of the hate jews antisemitism that recently exploded our from the demoncrat party.
In order to pretend the jews care, we have to focus on your party’s massive hatred of white people for a bit, before the squash anti semitism view the world by WW2 hitler and nazis resumes, which of course you latch onto the latter as your entire world view, like our stupid establishment of demoncrats.
Stereotyping is always wrong and more importantly inaccurate regardless of who said it.
Using that stereotype, Bill Clinton and Joe Biden would fit that broad-brush label.
Like ****hole countries and poisoning of blood? Or kung flu, birther comments about President Obama or Vice-President Harris? The list is to long to print here
Obama, twice a foreigner, most in his formative years, and a dad without US citizenship, he did not qualify for POTUS.
VP Harris is so stupid she shouldn’t be in that position, but that was the play to keep criminal demented joey safe in the roost.
Now your party of racism is stuck with brain dead mob boss or brain dead kneepads.
It will be interesting to see what happens as your overlords make the choice once again, for you “voters” which 100% DO NOT MATTER because of the huge amount of special delegates atop the DNC, which decide it.
“. . . biologically transmitted proclivity with roots deep in their evolutionary history.”
If I’m ever on trial for rape, I’m hiring King as an expert witness:
“But, your Honor. As this Eminent Scholar has proven, evolution made me do it. You wouldn’t jail me for standing erect, would you?”
Sam,
LOL!
Thank you for the laugh!
Lot of good, witty comments today.
What is the difference between Hamas and King? They both bring up their children to hate another race, one based on color and other religion and race. We need to eradicate both from our educational institutions.
More to the point, The Intersectionality of Hate is starting to converge on the Jews. Liberal Jews have been at the forefront of this ideological divisiveness and identity politics, and now it is starting to bite them in the tuchus! This is a long excerpt from J H Kunstler, who goes more deeply into this, and how America’s Jews need to leave the Democrat Party. It is a good read, and touches on the insanity spouted by Dante King:
The Jewish American Dilemma
Jewish Americans have played a leading role in American intellectual and political life through the 20th century and into this one. We Jews increasingly dominated the arenas of literature, academia, medicine, law, news media, and show biz. Business and government, too. In America, we mostly overcame (or seemed to) the deep, old-world superstitions against us, thanks to successful near-total cultural assimilation. I, for example, came from a Jewish family far more interested in baseball than Talmud, who put up a Christmas tree in the living room, and ate sweet-and-sour pork frequently. Perhaps this made us “bad” Jews, but frankly, it was more important to be good Americans — that is, people who cared more about our country than our ancestral origins.
“Tikkun Olam means repair the world. This has been driving American Judaism since the early 20th century. Meanwhile, the genocide of the 1940s gave new impetus to next year in Jerusalem for what remained of the European Jews, and thus you get the establishment of Israel in 1948 — notwithstanding the geopolitical legerdemain that actually brought it about. American Jews, while sympathetic to a fault with the founding of Israel, and deeply vested emotionally in its success, had a different agenda in the USA after World War Two. They endeavored to repair America. Tikkun Olam!
Mostly this expressed itself in Jewish support and involvement in the Civil Rights movement, since the end of discrimination against anybody was considered a good thing for the Jews as well as humanity in general. The country needed a moral repair job, especially after defeating manifest evil in the big war. That effort climaxed in the mid 1960s with the federal legislation that ended Jim Crow policy in voting and public accommodations. Much of the actual on-the-ground work to make this happen was accomplished by Jewish lawyers. This is a fact, not an accusation.
But then something happened. Several things. One was that not all of black America necessarily regarded the Civil Rights movement as the great moral victory it was touted to be. A lot of black youth in the 1960s opted out early on and went their own way in black separatist movements of various kinds. As a practical matter, it also slowly became obvious that the new Civil Rights laws did not raise up the black underclass out of poverty and misery. Jewish liberal apostates would even argue that the vast federal social safety-net program largess that accompanied Civil Rights Inc. only made the condition of poor blacks worse.
This became a growing fiasco for American Jewish liberals, who, by the 1980s, then strove to impose another set of repairs (more tikkun olam) on American society: multiculturalism, meaning it was no longer necessary to promote a common culture that people would be encouraged to assimilate into, to join a consensus of values and behaviors. Instead, all cultures could behave according to their own rules. That hasn’t worked out so well either, and the world repairers have lately had to resort to coercion such as tyrannical diversity, equity, and inclusion policies and the shoving aside of equal opportunity for enforced equal outcomes (“equity”). That business has only produced additional unintended consequences, such as the new epidemic of institutional incompetence and the resentment of at least half the population against new forms of counter-discrimination (cultural Marxism, in short).
Another poorly understood byproduct of this failure to repair the world is the guilt and shame secretly experienced by the American liberal Left over the apparent failure of the Civil Rights movement they fought so hard for, and the subsequent failed efforts to tweak it and save it (still more tikkun olam). Thus, we see the absurd racist “anti-racism” of the universities, and so many other affronts to common sense and reality itself.
But the worst byproduct of all this tragically misguided tikkun olam is that the main political vehicle for it, the Democratic Party, has gone so insane that it now devotes itself fanatically to the utter destruction of what remains of our country. This is most particularly true in the law, which might be considered the backbone of America. Lawfare attorneys such as Marc Elias work tirelessly to turn American election law upside down and inside out so it becomes increasing impossible to know who is voting and if the ballots are legitimate.
The Democratic Party has decided it’s okay to use the law in bad faith to persecute and jail its political opponents. The Democratic Party has destroyed Americans’ faith in the federal courts, the Department of Justice, and the FBI. The Democratic Party allows an invasion of millions of unvetted aliens across the border, quite a few of them possibly bent on making mayhem here as global tensions careen into hot war. The Democratic Party is still pushing Covid vaccinations that are well-understood at this point to be ineffective and unsafe. And the Democratic Party is doing everything possible (with help from RINO Republicans) to destroy our financial system. You could easily make the case that the Democratic Party is the anti-American Party.
If they really want to repair the world, it’s time for Jewish Americans to get out of the Democratic Party and re-assimilate into an American common culture — a consensus about reality — that is consistent with running a successful, orderly, and just society.”
The link is not something that will pass the wordpress censor, because of the F word, but the title of the essay is The Jewish American Dilemma, and there is more in the article.
Floyd I remember reading that. I could relate since I was raised in a liberal Jewish home, closely tied to the Democratic Party. My father was a local party official and local politician promoting Democratic Party values. He grew up in the 1930s and 40s, and recalled FDR being looked up to as a demigod. This was the old timey Democratic Party. Unfortunately when the party morphed into a grotesque obscene monster in later years, he couldn’t shake his anti-Republican prejudice sufficiently to see what had become of his beloved institution. Of four siblings I am the only one to have escaped the plantation.
Well, I am glad that you got away at least. I never thought that I would see anti-Semitism rear its stupid head here, in any meaningful way, but live and learn. I am a few generations down from Polish Jews immigrating here in the 1800s, but they intermarried with the goy, so all I have of that heritage (about 12% according to 23 and Me) is a high IQ, and a love for Fiddler on the Roof.
I am also from Eastern European Jewish stock (if that’s the right term). Poland, Russia, Romania, Lithuania. I was liberal up to my eyeballs in college. Once I opened my mind in the 1980s, with the help of an articulate relative who was a high level official in the Reagan Administration, I became conservative and have been appalled at what has happened to my old party since then. It seems every day it reaches new depths of wickedness. I too love FotR. I recently overheard a choir practicing some of its songs in an auditorium, and it was like heaven on earth.
“he couldn’t shake his anti-Republican prejudice ”
Oldman and Floyd: In the beginning,[Bereshit] this is something I was faced with. There are good reasons not to like the Republicans or party politics. Still, there are better reasons to dismiss today’s Democrats, recognizing that their ideas are unhealthy and straying from the proper path.
I was never political and still am not. I have basic ideas based on economic principles and morality. Today’s Democrat policies are immoral and can easily be seen in the rhetoric of a good number of our anonymous posters along with a few having names. Neither Judaism nor the Torah is responsible. These individuals have strayed from the moral road and taken a path to sell themselves and others.
Drawing on FBI reports this comment on interracial rape over a six year period notes:
White on Black: 0
Black on White: 135,206
Black on Black: 148,380
https://www.quora.com/Why-is-there-such-an-imbalance-in-interracial-rape-in-the-USA-Rape-affects-all-social-classes-it-can-t-be-blamed-on-poverty
In other news, George Floyd was an urban saint and aspiring physicist murdered by white [and Asian and black] racist cops.
It’s past time to push back against the BS.
The only constant in the universe, is change. The pendulum will eventually, swing back to the right.
When did the ‘pendulum’ swing back on the Sumerians?
Don’t wait for a nonexistent pendulum. Resist the destruction.
“When did the ‘pendulum’ swing back on the Sumerians?”
Damn! I wish I had said that!
Young,
Witty and well said!
I think my Dream Job, if it paid well, would be a Grand Wizard of the KKK. Because it would replace the Maytag repairman as the loneliest job in the world. I would never have to do anything, because black people and the Democrat Party would do everything for me. I would never have to gather a bunch of rednecks and go shoot up black neighborhoods, because young blacks thugs are already terrorizing them. For free! I would not have to underfund black schools, or burn them down, to keep blacks ignorant, because they themselves have mostly abandoned actual education, and are just passed from grade to grade by age. And if some black kid does like to read, and go to the library, the other black kids will beat him or her into shape by accusing them of Acting White. No more selling part of the black family down South to a cotton plantation in Louisiana to bust up black families, because blacks hardly ever form nuclear families anymore. 80% of black kids are out-of-wedlock. I would not have to go burn down the Black Tulsa business district, because the blacks themselves are shoplifting black business districts into oblivion. As far as furthering the ends of segregation, blacks have that covered, too. They have made themselves so obnoxious collectively, that even white liberals eschew them as a matter of practice, even though they continue to enable them. Not to mention, actually segregating themselves into Black Safe Spaces. No more killing, either, or setting off bombs in black churches. Blacks murder more of themselves each year than the Klan ever lynched in its whole existence. I mean what Klan chapter could ever match the results of Killchago, or Killadelphia? And black churches are a joke, full of twerkers (faith dancers), and black churches do most of the heavy lifting to demoralize their own population. No, being a Grand Wizard would be fantastic! At our meetings, we could just drink beer, play cards, and watch Hip-Hop TV, and laugh our a$$e$ off.
Floyd: Your thinking so parallels mine, I wrote this @hour ago, -then clicked “cut” and decided not to post it. Neither you nor I will get much support today for what we post, but it does take courage to openly articulate concerns. This is what I wrote earlier but did not post:
The biggest mistakes that Whites have made, IMHO, is not that they engaged in globally-common slavery two centuries ago. It is that they engaged in fiscal responsibility and work ethics (often grounded in religiosity) that resulted in a hesitancy to procreate if it proved to be more than they could handle, i.e., birth control if they believed they could “not afford” another baby, —-while at the same time paying $ billllllions in social welfare benefits to those in public housing projects who seemed to reproduce with abandon (married or not), –many even admitting that they were doing it for the federal $$$$.
And Whites continued to pay $ billions in social income benefits to those who were well-capable of gaining employment. Our great cities became crime-ridden slums; our suburbs became hunting grounds for burglary, car jacks, and violent robberies.
Ergo, Whites are becoming a minority number in the very country that they “birthed.” Our Nation’s “Fathers” must be turning in their graves.
This may sound like a “hateful” post, but it is not. Truth be told, Whites have never held Blacks to the same standards of expectation in ethics, morals, or social compact that were expected of Whites. We excuse crime, poor grades in school, “Black English,” in-your-face sexuality, and now,-Racist slamming of whites, —all because Whites fear the consequences of facing riots, vandalism, flash mobs/group theft, burned-down cities, etc., if they do not placate the masses/mobs.
P.s. for those who want to dismiss my comments, I DO have good friends who are Black. They agree with me.
To Floyd and Lin,
I found Floyd’s use of satire to make a point not only well said but witty.
Lin, I found nothing you said to be “hateful” but factual.
This seems to me, like the good professor is pointing out, Dante King lecture is the antithesis of the civil rights movement and is an affront to all those who work so hard for the civil rights movement.
How sad.
P.s. for those who want to dismiss my comments, I DO have good friends who are Black. They agree with me.
lin, your comment is as Upstate said factual and reasonable. Additionally, you do not need the above disclaimer. Similar to those that feel the need to say (and I have done this), they don’t like Trump’s “character.” We don’t need to defend anything.
Lin, We are not friends but if we lived near each I would likely consider you my intellectual equal along the thinking of iron sharpens iron. Truth be told you are one of the few commenters who feed my scholastic appetite, for which I am grateful
With all of that said, charitably speaking, I have always found your defense of “whiteness” just plain silly. We have never met, perhaps I am missing something which is often the case in misunderstandings, but skin proteins (e.g. melanin and others) determine skin color. These proteins are encoded in various segments of DNA on various different chromosomes. Thus, there is no easy metric that splits the baby down the middle ala Solomon re: white vs non-white. Its just proteins for crying outloud, and different percentages therein.
Two black friends of mine, over 20 years friends of mine, have taught me that there exists several gradations of “black”-ness, according to them and other blacks. They have characterized it as “plantation black”, “field black”, caramel black, mocha black, etc Another friend, also black, said he didnt share the same skin tones as other blacks, preferring instead to use the term “blaque”. My N. Florida in-laws are deep south white folks, “Florida crackers” as they call themselves. When we visit FL and spend time with them, they express different degrees of skin color, likely because they have Cherokee, Seminole, and other native American genetics
You likely have visited Europe as have I. Greeks, Spaniards and Italians have wide degree of skin pigmentation, in stark contrast to English, Scottish and Scandinavian.
Folks who try and defend “whites” make me wonder if they realize skin color as determined by multiple genes, carrying multiple programs via inheritance, that are anything but pure. Frankly, we are all mutts, not a bad thing
This is why I always said that Barack Obama is not black. If anything he appears more white than anything else
Hello Estovir: Thank you for your thoughts. Perhaps I should have made it clear, (and I assume that many commenters herein would understand) that my reference to black and white was directed toward/tethered in colloquial/socio-economic/ethnologic usage,- not biologic origin usage. I understand why you would infer a broader application.
P.S., truth be told, I am slightly more conversant in certain topics than I may appear. On your particularly edifying comment, several years ago, I authored/edited a book on DNA which made it to the top five Bestsellers on Amazon (for a short while, albeit, ha ha). Notwithstanding, I remain humbly ignorant of many of today’s scientific advances therein, especially in biomedical application.
Thanks Lin for clarifying. I would still be happy to break bread with you if you will have me
You and others might find the following article of interest, free link
Chatterjee, Sumantra, and Nadav Ahituv. “Gene regulatory elements, major drivers of human disease.” Annual review of genomics and human genetics 18 (2017): 45-63
https://www.annualreviews.org/doi/full/10.1146/annurev-genom-091416-035537
In brief, DNA has two major uses in the following proportions:
1. hereditary traits (20%)
2. epigenetics – synthesizing proteins in response to perturbations in the cells (80%)
Hypertension, hyperglycemia, hypoxia (sleep apnea), smoking, obesity, etc, all promote perturbations to the cell (aka pathology). These perturbations are presented via cell signaling (proteins, lipids, nuclei acids, carbohydrate residues, any combination therein) which influence DNA. DNA in turn “responds” in such a way to alleviate the perturbation
Skin color is just that. Where people gathered, e.g. Africa, Scandinavia, DNA responded in such a way as necessary to keep the cell alive.
We all have inherited genes (segments of DNA of x number of base pairs) from prior organisms that have had to deal with environmental stressors / signals or pathogenic microorganisms. Our immune system is in large part a result of the stressors other organisms had to confront so as to survive. No gene rearrangement is involved but rather turning on or silencing genes to get the desired outcome all for survival. Race is a political construct that favors politicians, largely wielded in the US alone. We all have far more in common than the body politic admits
The above article provides far more detail. Take a look at it if nothing else the diagrams, charts and figures
¡Saludos!
“Race is a political construct that favors politicians, largely wielded in the US alone.”
WOW WHAT A MORONIC STATEMENT. Tell me what percentage of nations in the world ignore race. Near zero, or zero.
MOST NATIONS IN THE WORLD RIGHT NOW HAVE THEIR RACIAL SET OF PEOPLE AS THE ONLY FULL CITIZEN BASE.
I don’t understand how you people work yourselves into blatant lies.
Estovir– “Race is a political construct that favors politicians, largely wielded in the US alone. We all have far more in common than the body politic admits.”
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I agreed with you up to that point. Race seems important in South Africa where the likely next ruler of the country leads chants of “KILL THE WHITES!” They mean it. Whites are regularly murdered there. So not “largely in the US alone” as you imagine.
In any event, whether one uses ‘race’ or some other more comfortable term, the underlying differences are genuine and recognized with increasing ease. Do you truly imagine that if an unlabled tube of tissue or blood were handed to someone in, say, David Reich’s lab in Massachusetts they couldn’t identify species and if human also identify broad racial groups, black, European, Asian or American Indian or Neanderthal? Of course they can. Beyond that they easily go more minutely and, for example, identify subgroups of Europeans such as Celt, Germanic, etc, and on down to family groups.
As a doctor you know that race can also have significance in diagnosis and treatment. In some situations failure to include race in consideration of diagnosis and treatment can lead to malpractice.
It isn’t ‘race’ that is a political construct but your determination to ignore the reality of race that is the political construct.
As to our being more alike than different one should remember that we have something like 98% of our DNA in common with our Chimp cousins.
Estovir– Just checked. The current estimate is that we share 98.8% of our DNA with chimps.
The “we all have more in common” doesn’t get you very far in pretending that races don’t exist. We have a lot in common with monkeys too, but I don’t pretend that the difference between humans, chimps and monkeys is purely a political fiction.
Although I will grant that with equity programs in place a chimp might be able to get a Harvard PhD and maybe the presidency of Harvard if he doesn’t throw his pop at the Board too often. The standards for the position apparently are not very exacting.
Estovir–
Taking a different position than Lin’s I think it is obvious that colloquial use of ‘black’ is tethered to biology and genetics, specifically to those whose genetic heritage is rooted in sub-Saharan Africa.
Taking a different position than yours I think the critical factor isn’t pigmentation [that’s a silly, dead end argument] but race. The pigmentation is only an adaptation to local environment. The rest of the genome is more important.
Years ago Cavalli-Sforza and his team did a broad study of human populations and the genetic distance between different peoples. Publishing first in The Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences and then in his book, History and Geography of Human Genes he made the startling declaration that based only on genetic distance humanity could be divided into two groups, First sub-Saharan Africans and Second everyone else.
The genetic distance between Africans and Australian aborigines is double the distance between Aborigines and mainland Asians and that distance is double the distance between Asians and Europeans who, apparently, are quite close. There have been many advances since then but the core point on genetic distances still holds.
It has long been known from separated twin studies if nothing else that there is a genetic component to intelligence. Equally it has been known that the average IQ of American blacks is about 85 and is generally lower in Africa. But that distribution is on a Bell curve so the authors of the study of the same name, in chapter 13, noted there will be many black Americans who are smarter than most whites and that you can predict essentially nothing about a person by his skin color. However one can make reasonable predictions about a population as a whole. Asians will produce more physicists than an equal number of blacks and probably more than an equal number of whites though by a smaller margin.
Broadly, while we cannot [and do not] expect equality between members of the same race or even members of a family, and get along quite well with that fact, we pretend that all races are essentially identical. They obviously, blatantly, are not.
The ideal of our society is not that we all be identical like widgets coming out of a factory but that despite our different traits we have equality before the law and insofar as rational law can provide for it, equal opportunity regardless of genetic inheritance. Unfortunately it is that hard won ideal that is under attack by the DEI thugs.
Estovir, I would note that Dante King sems vastly more in need of learning this (absolutely correct) analysis of genetics and “race” than pretty much any commenter here.
You’re not white, Obama is not white, greeks are not white, same for spaniards and italians.
I guess only whitey can tell.
I don’t think what you said is hateful, and to tell the truth, I think most white people, and a growing number of black people, would agree with you. It is obvious. When people like Scott Adams have advised to just leave black people alone, then you know things are bad. When I worked downtown, several decades ago, I frequented a black family restaurant. I loved the food, and I figured that I was helping black people make a good living. This place had been in business since the 1920s, and a lot of white people ate there. But I would not do that again today. First, because of the racial animus towards white people, I would be wondering what person in the cooking area spit in my food. Second, because a lot of blacks ate there too, I would not feel safe. Who knows when one gang is going to come in and shoot up another gang. This is what the black community has done to itself. It has made itself obnoxious beyond all belief with its hatefulness. And, sure, maybe 50% of black people are decent, but you know, there are so many of them that are not, and to such an alarming degree, that I think more and more whites have chosen the Scott Adams path.
Floyd: Likewise, when I worked downtown, I frequented an Arabic restaurant and absolutely loved their “mujadra” (sp.) (basically, seasoned lentils and rice rolled up in a warm naan flatbread. The owner told me that the origin of the sandwich was for shepherds out in the fields who worked hard all day. He teased me that I did not work hard. So whenever I walked in, I would say out loud, “I worked very hard today,” and he would reward me with the best sandwich. We became great daytime pals, often engaging in political/social talk, and I respected the business he built up for himself.
I no longer live in that state.
Notwithstanding, I believe THAT/(THIS) is the way to achieve world peace/respect and understanding of one another, one friend at a time, sharing and comparing. NOT in-your-face violence and force/destruction.
Thanks for your good response.
@lin, and thank you, too. I agree. I hate the fact that I would not feel safe anymore at a black lunch counter, and isn’t that ironic, considering all the hoopla regarding blacks being able to eat at what was it, Woolworth’s or something, years ago. It is so unnecessary, and so harmful. I am afraid that one day it will result in massive violence against the white community, which will result in even more violence. You can’t preach this much hate and not get a terrible result.
To all,
Thank you for your most interesting comments, taken from different points of view.
I worked for a mining company that had a plant in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, and, when I travelled there, I loved eating the ribs at Dreamland Bar-B-Que, where the black founder, Big Daddy Bishop, had served blacks and whites alike since it was founded in 1958; a time when Alabama was stiill very segregated. Bishop would say “Everybody’s green to me”. That is the kind of much needed attitude that (mostly) white progressives have nearly eliminated in favor of polemics like those that this Dante King idiot is pushing. And no, sadly, I’m not at all sure I would be comfortable eating in the Dreamland of today.
Notwithstanding, I believe THAT/(THIS) is the way to achieve world peace/respect and understanding of one another, one friend at a time, sharing and comparing.
Peace through Trade. The Abraham Accords. Trump did more for Middle East Peace than anyone since WWII. The State Department Hates Trump for showing up all the Ivy league prigs. The entirety of the State Dept is a waste of skin.
Floyd, your story reminded me of an awakening of sorts I had in a lunchtime restaurant staffed entirely with blacks and though the customers were generally mixed I was sometimes the only white there and so familiar to them that they forgot I was there when two women were speaking of another, not present, whom they clearly didn’t like. “She not so pretty. She got fat lips and she very black,” apparently black features were a detriment even to these black ladies. Struck me as odd. When I lived for awhile in a predominantly black country I often was the only white in the crowd, particularly in the open air market where I often shopped for produce, and I seldom felt uncomfortable or overt hostility. We are destroying ourselves by feeding and nurturing racial anger and entitlement and hatred. It doesn’t have to be.
True, and what Dante King said, would not be considered outrageous at all in the black community. It is what black kids are taught early on, and often, and it no wonder to me that you end up with the racial disparities that we experience.
“…I had in a lunchtime restaurant staffed entirely with blacks…” “apparently black features were a detriment even to these black ladies”
Were those blacks biologically and genetically Sub-Saharan or just colloquially black?
They looked almost exactly like the woman whose features they were attacking. That was another oddity about the experience. They were describing themselves. When commenting disparagingly about the other’s thick lips one pulled her own lip out by way of demonstration.
Young,
Just recently the wife and I were having breakfast at a local, mom and pop like diner. The kind where the kids were helping run the place.
We are very current event aware. We read from independent media.
In the past, we would discuss current events and news without a second thought, speaking normally.
Now, with the threat of some leftist going off on us for our non-leftist words, opinions, speech, we now modulate our speech in hushed tones.
There is a very good restaurant down in town we like to go to. Just so happens the chef is gay. We do not care about her sexual preference. We like her food. We have gay friends and family and one trans friend. But we still feel we have to modulate our speech in fear of some radical leftist accusing us of being non-leftist.
Sad to say the current affairs.
Upstate, I don’t have much of a filter so I apparently annoy people sometimes. If my wife is present I might get a kick under the table. “Ow! What did I do?” Which only emphasizes whatever offense I have committed. Don’t care, but I don’t like being kicked. Guess that’s the point of it.
Even in minor conversation I can be careless. Returning to a distant, aloof ophthalmologist after a long while I was greeted cheerily. I asked, ” Are you the same doctor I saw last time?” “Yes.” ” You seem different. More cordial.” Probably not tactful but I guess I wanted him to know that whatever improvement course he might have taken was working. Later thought that maybe I needed that course too.
Floyd’s valid observation will sound racist to the left which will choke on the first sentence. But it screams truth. It reminds me of Paul Harvey’s prescient observation, “If I were the Devil.” Google it some time.
Robert,
The fact he recorded that in 1965, prescient observation is right.
Thank you for that.
Thank you, and I hope the Left does choke! And that there is nobody there to Heimlich them.
While politicians are dividing and diverting us, did you know a child born in 2024 is already in debt about $100,000 just including the national debt. Not including personal consumer debts.
Neither party is talking about it.
The problem is, as a nation, we do not see it as our individual and personal debt. The debt collectors will come when the “bank” is broke and we will all pay by heaviest taxation, confiscation of property when we cannot pay the taxation to come and we will be reduced to penurity and want. Except those in “government,” who will be protected, and the weathiest classes. The day will come when the National Debt overwhelms us. Most folks only see the “deficit” and do not understand the Nation Debt, which is just looming a clock as the Nuclear Clock, counting down.
Robert,
Well said and great observation.
The only remaining debt I have is the farm note. And that should be paid off in another few years.
As I say to others, invest in chickens, PMs, ammo and your own personal health.
This is just name calling, no constructive criticism or evidence.
Progressive “education” is just teaching logical fallacies and lies. In this case ad hominem attack and furtive fallacy.
What a joke.
Remember how evil Whites are the next time you turn on a light, start your car, use a computer, fly in an airplane, use modern medicine. Absolutely awful!
And remember all cultures are equal except European culture, it’s evil, racist, sexist, homophobic and responsible for the problems of the world.
Maybe we should have those enlightened folks in Sub Saharan Africa or Islamic world instruct us on how to live.
Antonio
Pronouns: she/hers
Also try to avoid Shakespeare, Locke, Rousseau, Plato, Cicero, Aristotle, Manet, Dostoevsky, Tolstoy, Van Gogh, Einstein, Michelangelo, Da Vinci and all other western, European, or white authors, thinkers, artists, philosophers, scientists etc etc.
Real leaders – of any political party – try to unite Americans to become a stronger nation. Instead of trying to divide us with wedge issues, real leaders try to unite us.
There is an entire “Division Industry” that is highly profitable. If you falsely demean your political opponent, you receive more money. If you frighten and terrorize your voters, you receive more money.
This makes America weaker and only strengthens our foreign enemies and foreign adversaries. Communist and fascist nations love America’s “Division Industry”.
When we have real leaders, with integrity and backbone – like former Vietnam POW John McCain – the voters support unpatriotic division over honest leaders try to unite us.
Leaders of the “Division Industry” need followers. Trump is not a strong man leader, it’s weak and cowardly to divide your own nation then give aid & comfort to foreign Communist leaders. Strong leaders unite us, not divide us!
Trump is very weak and supports policies contrary to Reagan, Eisenhower and Bush.
Turley– “Imagine if a speaker or professor gave a lecture that called blacks “psychopaths” and responsible for a rape culture.”
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Maybe not that hard to imagine. According to stats the overwhelming number of interracial rape cases are committed by black men against white women. The number of white men raping black women is comparatively so low it barely moves the needle. I wonder why that isn’t mentioned as a part of Black History Month or included in movie plots as a part of DEI,
Read Heather MacDonald, she has all the stats and is brave enough to write about them.
Hulbobby,
Thank you. Yes, she is a good source and, so far as I can tell, honest.
Public policy should be based on verifiable and frequently checked facts, not on fantasy propaganda and evasive euphemisms. We often hear of ‘gun violence’ in places like Chicago and Baltimore although guns don’t commit violence. ‘Gun violence’ is predominantly black violence. Black culture and black criminality needs to be addressed. I suspect we are also getting increased amounts of illegal immigrant violence with the DHS openly enabling illegal immigration.
Meanwhile ignore cries of racism when one us simply telling the truth. That accusation is becoming a toothless hyena now that everything except actual racism [separate dorms and graduations and lower standards] is racist.
Well over a decade ago, I wrote that left is the new right. The universities promote racism because authoritarianism needed a new face. Progress itself requires a deepening of alienation and an ever sharpening of the state apparatus which penetrates every aspect of life and culture. False intellectualism is the order of the day. This speaker, Dante King, is clearly unqualified in psychology, yet he relies heavily on terms from that field to impose his ideological agenda. Imagine the great bulk of undergraduate applicants being shown: ‘Come here so that we can abuse you; we need someone to hate and all of you are choice targets.’ Destroying the university from within seems to have the functional advantage of energizing extra-legislative power to dissolve the old and outmoded institution of higher education. The digital cage is so much more efficient and productive of automatons programmed with correct-speak.
Kevin Hornbuckle: Nice comment, thanks for contributing to the forum.
What would Abraham Lincoln think if he heard Dante King? He might think that the North did not win the Civil War, but that the North and the South both lost the war in some way.
Abraham Lincoln would mot think anything. He would block you and go back to playing on his gameboy.
would not think anything
“If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spoken twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it, and – which is more – you’ll be a Man, my son!”
— Rudyard Kipling
“If you can keep . . .”
Great poem. Thanks for the reminder.
It is a basic tenet of “antiracist” thinking that “racism” means prejudice plus power. Because the “oppressed” lack power, whatever they do or say cannot be characterised as “racist.” Moreover, “antiracism” also insists that any “under representation” of an “oppressed” group is due to “racism” even if there is no evidence of prejudice; race-neutral policies or institutions that produce racial disparities are “systemically” racist.
Thus “racism” is a term that cannot be applied to prejudiced “BIPoC folx” but must be applied to unprejudiced whites.
I love the whole Racism=Power + Prejudice. What a joke. Imagine this – Bubba, in a white suit and klan hat says, “I hate black people! They are worse than a troop of monkeys!”
Is Bubba a racist? Who knows? We lack sufficient information to make that determination. If Bubba is South Texas, and says it, then Yes! But, if Bubba steps across the border, into Mexico, where he has no power, then the answer is No!
All the “adding power” (which, it is stupid to begin with, because it presumes black/brown people have none of it in the first place, and who is even sure what “power” means) to the equations does, is providing cover to people who wish to be racist against white people.
And further, on the geographical front, would Bubba, above, be a racist if he said it in Chicago, where blacks run everything? I mean, the whole concept is stupid.
But should the public be forced to fund virulent teachings that instigate to murder some of them? Let the benevolent billionaires do it. I take it that their understanding is that Jewish people are no longer White, but Oct 7 has muddied those waters.
Ironic that Dante King’s rants illustrate that he is the biggest racist of all. Imagine if a white person spewed the same vitriolic garbage about black people ? UC San Francisco would be in flames.