MSNBC contributor and former Democratic Senator Claire McCaskill has been one of the most vocal voices attacking critics of Joe Biden and opposing any investigations into his family or his policies. She attacked journalists and others who spoke in favor of free speech, calling them “Putin apologists” and Putin lovers. Now she is lashing out at the media for fact checking Joe Biden’s false claims . . . any false claims.
McCaskill called The New York Times “ridiculous” for a story correcting Biden’s false claims about the economy. She warned the media that they are only helping Trump by pointing out Biden’s false or misleading claims:
“What everyone says when you travel, ‘Well, you wouldn’t elect him again, would you? Hasn’t the country learned? You wouldn’t ever give this guy power again, would you? Tell us that he’s not going to be re-elected. Please, tell us you’ve learned your lesson.’ So The only blemish on the great country of America worldwide is, in fact, Donald Trump.”
She then added,
“Can I make a suggestion? I move that every newspaper in America quits doing any fact checks on Joe Biden until they fact check Donald Trump every morning on the front page. It is ridiculous that The New York Times fact check Joe Biden on something. I mean, he vomits lies, Trump vomits lies. And he, every day over and over and over again. And it’s just ridiculous that The New York Times is doing a fact check on Biden while they let Trump- they’re numb to the torrent of lies coming out of Trump’s mouth.”
It is that easy. Just stop fact checking. Of course, the media has always fact checked Trump with a certain glee. Such fact checks are a good thing and Trump has been legitimately criticized for many claims. However, McCaskill and others believe that the media must fall in line with the effort to reelect Biden.
The Washington Post previously gave Biden a rare “bottomless Pinocchio” for his false claims. According to McCaskill, that must stop at least until after the election. The public simply does not need to know such facts when democracy is at stake. It appears that ignorance is bliss when it comes to politics.
Of course, it was Benjamin Franklin who said “being ignorant is not so much a shame, as being unwilling to learn.”
More Turley selective quotation of facts. Senator McCaskill SAID it isn’t fair to just fact-check Joe Biden—Trump should also be fact-checked. But, since Turley is paid to attack Democrats and mainstream media, he, as usual, takes comments out of context to create a false narrative. And, as usual, the gullibles buy it. Pathetic, especially for someone who touts his credentials as a law professor.
“selective quotation of facts.” “remittitur” Ha gigi learns two new plugs just in the last two days!
“Pathetic, especially for someone who touts her credentials as a lawyer.”
GiGi probably saw the word “remittitur” on a check where she was the “remittitee.” Whoever printed the check, their spelling additur missed the typo. Whatever – knowledge is knowledge! 🙂
OT: I left a couple of comments for you in the discussion we had yesterday on this page:
https://jonathanturley.org/2024/02/23/that-didnt-stop-me-president-biden-brags-that-the-supreme-court-cannot-stop-him-from-canceling-student-debt/comment-page-2/#comments
I saw them, and responded. I have been busy keeping my leg elevated the last few days, which makes it harder to type, and use the mouse. I would again ask that you change your name from Anonymous, because there are several out-and-out shills here with that same name, you all look the same to me, at first glance. I think the names, GiGi, Fishwings, and Dennis M,have already been taken, too by person(s) of questionable intent.
I hope that your leg gets better soon. I’m unlikely to choose a name, for a reason I won’t go into, but I may sometimes sign my comments in my exchanges with you.
A.N.D.
A.N.D.
OK, I will watch for it. You could set up a sock-puppet email address or wordpress.com free site, with no personal info on it. Andy, or Rootbeer would be good names. ByReason is good too, a word play on bye rasin. Haitian Creole.
We thoroughly enjoyed seeing the word “reconveyance” on the deed wherein my wife and I were the “reconveyees” when we paid off our Cerritos, CA, mortgage at the age of 32.
Professor Turley Writes:
“She attacked journalists and others who spoke in favor of free speech, calling them “Putin apologists” and Putin lovers”.
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Here Turley poo-poos the labels being tagged on MAGA Republicans. As though cutting-off Ukraine is part of some wise strategy. Perhaps Turley would like to explain ‘what’ that strategy is. Like, ‘How does cutting-off Ukraine advance U.S. interests’???
Has anyone heard Donald Trump explain how cutting-off Ukraine will strengthen America’s position in the world? Has Mike Johnson explained it?? Has any Fox News pundit explained it??? The answer to all three of these questions is a resounding ‘NO!!!’
American’s status, as a global superpower, rests largely on our friendships. We have more economically powerful friends than both Russia and China combined.
But these friendships have been built on America’s perceived reliability as a functional bedrock of democracy. That perception, however, is being severely tested.
It is widely known in Washington that aid to Ukraine has enough Republican support to pass in both the Senate and House. House Speaker Johnson knows this. But he refuses to call a vote because Donald Trump has ordered him not to.
So here we have an ex-president facing 91 felony counts, after fomenting an insurrection, yet he’s the presumed Republican nominee despite a calender full of court dates. And this ex-president is ordering the House Speaker to prevent a majority of Congress from honoring U.S. commitments.
This same ex-president ordered an impeachment inquiry into the current president. And while that inquiry has crumbled, MAGA Republicans now want to shut-down the government unless Democrats accept a long series of budget riders demanding far-right policies.
All this chaos, generated by Donald Trump, has convinced our allies that the U.S. is a super clown show. Not only are we cutting-off Ukraine, we’re going to cut-off our own government!! How utterly stupid can we get???
Those of us who grew up in the post-war era can scarcely comprehend how dysfunctional the U.S. has become. Therefore, to think the world hasn’t noticed is dysfunctional in itself. Trump is a stooge for Putin and he has all but admitted it! Historians will look back and say, “It was treason in broad daylight but apologists kept denying.”
A Republican Senate Committee investigation found that Trump’s campaign did accept assistance from Russians. Isn’t the reason Trump is pushing Republicans to cut off funding for Ukraine obvious, even to MAGAites? What they don’t understand or appreciate is the critical role of the US in curbing Russian aggression against peaceful countries. If Putin takes Ukraine, Poland and the Baltic countries will be next. They are all NATO allies, and Trump will try to pull the US out of NATO or simply disregard our commitments to our allies. That would lead to WW3. Does it take a genius to connect the dots? Putin helped Trump cheat in 2016, and this is payback. Just like Trump tried to get Russia back into the G7. The disciples believe whatever lies they are fed by pro-Trump media, which spouts whatever lies Trump wants them to tell, and one big lie is that NATO is bad for America.
Get a life! don’t be a sycophant for the worst of the worst elected (and formerly elected) Ds!
You need to get professional help.
What would be Putin’s objective in Poland?
Why not look up what life was like for people forced to live behind the Iron Curtain ? Putin’s “objective “ would be to take over all property, media, education, agriculture, the Polish economy and to force the Polish people to live under a Russian dictatorship with no say in leadership, no freedom of speech, state-controlled media pumping out propaganda, no freedom of religion, no power to control their own destiny, shortages of food and consumer goods, and the risk of getting murdered like Navaly for daring to criticize Putin or any puppet he might install to do his bidding.
You’re hysterical.
“…and to force the … people to live under a … dictatorship with no say in leadership, no freedom of speech, state-controlled media pumping out propaganda… and the risk of getting murdered (or thrown in prison) like Navalny for daring to criticize (Dear Leader Biden or stolen elections) … ”
Sounds exactly like living in Biden’s Banana Republic – right now- here in America….
Biden’s DOJ has a quota — to arrest 2,000 J6 protesters (ie Trump supporters) before the election. To date they have arrested 1400, mostly for trumped up misdemeanor charges, with 3 more arrested JUST THIS WEEK, three years after J6! To say this is a scary time in Biden’s America is an understatement. Republicans who hold unacceptable political views are being hunted by Joe Bidens corrupt justice department which is acting just like the Secret Police.
Meanwhile, it is Joe Biden and HIS family who are the frickin’ criminals!!!
This is no longer a functioning “justice” system.
We are living under “lawless rule”…. not “rule of law.”
This is no longer a “free” country.
Wake up, America.
Try this on:
Navalny, if he were American, would be in prison for a J6 offense.
Gigi says: “If Putin takes Ukraine, Poland and the Baltic countries will be next.”
When and where has Putin said he intends to take Poland and the Baltics? Is Russia planning to recreate the Soviet Union?
Gigi says: “They are all NATO allies, and Trump will try to pull the US out of NATO or simply disregard our commitments to our allies.”
Trump told NATO allies they are required to pay their agreed upon share which they neglected to pay until he forced them to pay up. Who is disregarding “commitments”? Our NATO allies.
Putin is asking that Ukraine not join NATO and remain neutral — as was agreed upon previously. It is up to the U.S. and NATO allies to honor prior agreements.
Biden will never “win” this war for Ukraine. Ukraine will not defeat Russia. Not gonna happen. The warmongers all know this. But they want the corruption spigot open and flowing US dollars full blast into Ukraine -with NO accountability – as fast and as long as these crooked politicians can get away with it. The hundreds of thousands of dead and maimed young Ukrainian men — to date! – mean NOTHING to these sick corrupto-crats. END THE MADNESS. That is what Trump is saying he will do.
When and where have we heard Biden, the US or any NATO countries talking about negotiating peace and an end to the senseless killing of an entire generation of Ukrainian young men? I have not heard a word. Have you?
Instead we hear Biden call Putin a “crazy SOB” and shout about MAGA Republicans standing in the way of passing the spending bill” so the US can send MORE money to Ukraine…. “for as long as it takes”…..that is all we hear…..Biden insults Republicans….he insults Putin….he calls for sending more money….send more missiles….send more artillery…. “for as long as it takes” … to what? what is the objective? Kill Putin and complete the “regime change”? How many dead soldiers and civilians is enough for these warmongers profiting off their dead bodies? ….. Sickos….DC is full of sickos….End the war.
Remember Biden saying “America is back! Diplomacy is back!”?
Was diplomacy gone under Trump? There was peace for 4 years under Trump.
What diplomacy is back? Biden? LOL. Tony Blinken? A pathetic amateur totally out of his league.
“America is Back” shouted Biden. Was America missing during Trump’s 4 years? No, but WAR was missing under Trump. Biden took office, and WAR is back — with World War coming soon.
Biden shouts insults: “Putin is a crazy SOB.”
Biden says: “Diplomacy is back.”
Biden’s family bank records say: $20 million and counting from our enemies.
God help us.
Maybe you haven’t seen the interview with Putin yet, so I’ll fill you in—Putin made clear his intention to put old Soviet Union back together. He blathered on and on trying to justify Russia taking over and running Eastern Europe.
Poland was never part of the Soviet Union.
Perhaps you should pay feed to Colonel Douglas Macgregor’s analysis of the Russia/Ukranian war. It’s done and was NEVER winnable. America did or would do the same if Russia had put nuclear weapons on Cuba. You think Trump’s a stooge for Putin? Trump had Russia’s economy in a box, Stooge Biden has provided our enemies with billions and weapons.
I asked yesterday for you to lay out exactly what is needed to push Russia out of Ukraine, and keep them out. Nothing is off the table.
What is your plan for Ukraine?
Yesterday you ran off and hid. What is the plan?
According to Macgregor, Russia will keep a warm water port and retain the areas that were traditionally Russian. He says they have no desire to govern Ukranian’s that are hostile towards Russians. They had already learned that lesson. Zelensky is corrupt, he’s selling off the fertile land of the Ukraine to the highest bidder Blackrock. I would tell you to listen to his multiple podcasts on the issue. He is a well respected military analyst with alot of contacts in Europe. I don’t hide, I have other things to do.
From what I understand, America has provided over $300B to Ukraine since 2014 in support of the Ukraine and a war that could NEVER be won. There have been 500,000 Uranians killed fighting and 10M civilians leaving without desire to return. They have allowed killing of an entire generation of Ukranian people on a war they could never win and destroyed their country. Russia is the victor and will write the terms for ending the conflict with whoever replaces Zelensky. Macgregor says Russia will want to keep the region’s historically inhabited by Russian people and of course the warm water Port. He seems to believe Putin wants to get back to business of making Russia’s economy stronger for Russians and end the war. Putin has an 80% favorability with his people, Biden has 33%. As usual, they lied to us all.
Biden is responsible for any cut-off of aid to Ukraine. Republicans, not just Trump, merely ask that he enforce immigration laws.
Quote Jonathan word for word and it won’t show up until 54 Leftists’ rearrange it first.
This is trivial – the left, democrats the MSM almost never actually quote people when they report that they “said” something allegedly heinous.
SOMETIMES, they quote them out of context and deceptively edited.
Close to universally when you get the actual quote in context the meaning is different – often extremely different.
Contrast this to Biden – who is damned by his own words. Adding context only makes it worse and more self evident how significant his cognitive impairment is.
My father went through three years of cognative decline prior to his death. I have great sympathy for what Biden is going through.
At tje same time I spent my fathers last three years trying to get him out from behind the wheel of a car, I certainly would not want him deciding whether this country goes to war.
I would have sympathy for Daddy Joe – if he were not living in the White House! He is being manipulated by those who are the ones with real power.
His spouse and family looked forward to life in the White House and more profiteering from the “biden brand.” They intentionally failed to stop someone noticeably suffering from cognitive decline/early stages of dementia/whatever an MD or PhD psychologist would call it – because they wanted the perks. SHAME on them for making Daddy Joe a laughingstock. SHAME on them for all the kinds of ruination caused, in the USA and the world, during the last 37 months – with another 11 months to go.
John Say: With you it looks like cognative (sic) decline” runs in the family!
So Trump is right?
Claire de Lunacy
Ha! You are so good!
How ’bout the loss of her Senate seat being memorialized as “Rhapsody in Blue: An American in Perish.”
Claire who?
Claire de Loon. She was also known as the Bird Lady of France, sort of like Autobahn was here. She used to go out at night a lot, under the full moon, where she could watch birds mating.
The Democratic Left is composed of demigods running about claiming that the sky and democracy will fall if President Trump is reelected to the presidency. They preach from their Tyrannical High Horse that they and they alone know the way forward, all the while scheming devious methods to removve the protections guaranteed in the Constitution. They have granted Saint Hood to their leadership’s lies and dubious truths, and have opened a path to incarcerate those who reject their tyrannical ways. The leftists in America have shown they are not worthy of any posts within local, state or federal governments, and must be shown the door, exit left as the saying goes.
God help us all!
Jonathan: Speaking of fact checking. On Friday DJT appealed to Black voters before the primary today in S. Carolina. He compared the 91 felony charges he faces to what Black people face: “A lot of people said that’s why the Black people liked me, because they had been hurt so badly and discriminated against. And they actually viewed me as I’m discriminated against…”. DJT went on to say his mug shot, the one when he was arraigned in Fulton county, is being worn by Black people on T-shirt–a sign they are embracing him: “I’m being indicted for you, the Black population”.
FACT CHECK: A recent Quinnipac poll shows Biden leading DJT among Black voters 79% to 19%. Not exactly embracing DJT. And the reason some Black people are wearing the T-shirt with DJT’s mug shot is because they are mocking him–not embracing him.
Black people have long memories. They remember the Black Lives Matter protests over the killing of George Floyd when DJT said “When the looting starts, the shooting starts”. They also remember when DJT dined at Mar-a-Lago with Nick Fuentes, an avowed White supremacist. They also remember when DJT falsely claimed Obama was born in Kenya and he referred to Haiti as a “shithole” country. None of this will be lost on Black voters when they go to the polls in November. They are not about to vote for a racist.
Thank you for whitesplaining black people to me, Mr. Charlie.
Ouch! If DM was a bubble, he just got popped!
Anonymous: You don’t even know the meaning of “whitesplaining”. It’s when a white person comments on a minority experience or tries to explain racism to a person of color in a condescending manner. That’s not what I did in my comment. Your bubble has just been popped!
That’s exactly what you did.
Thank you, Great White Savior!
Your own polls confirm that Trump is polling higher among blacks than any republican presidential candidate in my lifetime.
I would note that there is a large male female divide regarding Trump – and it is largest among the black community were SOME polls have Trump getting nearly 40% of the vote of Black males.
We are seeing the same trends among hispanics – except that Trump has about double the support among hispanics as blacks.
If as you claim blacks and other minorities universally hate Trump – then you have nothing to worry about in November.
President Obama got 98% of the black vote. Hillary got about 90% of the black vote.
There is a reason that Trump is bringing his campaign to black and other minority voters.
There are very large numbers of black voters that are open to Trump rather than Biden.
A majority ? Not yet. But if as YOU Claim Trump is getting 19% of the black vote – Biden is toast.
Regardless, 19% is a step on the way to 90%.
Minorities in this country are slowly learning that “free things” are not a substitute for “freedom”
The question for minority voters is easy. It is the same question Ronald Reagan asked
“Are You Better Off Than You Were 4 Years Ago?”
Democrats claim that the Biden economy is great. But more than half the country – especially the working class and especially minorities are worse off. Inflation ALWAYS harms the bottom half more than the rest. Wages never rise as fast as inflation.
And once again when the Fed even hints at the possibility of rate cuts, inflation starts to rise again.
I seem to recall in the midst of the BLM riots 60 year old Black women Begging people not to loot and burn down the businesses in their communities. After the riots Walmarts, and targets and CVS’s and … in large numbers announced they would not rebuild in communities that destroyed their stores.
Haiti is a $hithole country.
Do you really want to go to George Floyd ?
George Floyd was no Medgar Evers, no Martin Luther King. He was a sad man who F#$Ked up his own life.
Floyd is just another example of the left’s weaponization of the legal system for political purposes.
One that went badly. for everyone.
Even BLM turned out to be a collection of race baiting corrupt communist thugs.
Sometimes our heros like Jefferson and Washington and even Lincoln have clay feet.
But real heroes are not entirely made of clay.
And if ‘they’ aren’t for Biden, ‘they’ ain’t black, right, Dennis?
Sock puppets to the left of me, sock puppets to the right – here I am stuck in the middle with… Wait! Where did you go?
You’re dating yourself…
to 1972.
Many times up until 15 years ago, Biden lied about the truck driver who was involved in an accident with his first wife (and possibly saved Hunter and Beau). Every lie Biden has told before or since (and there are thousands) pales by comparison https://www.newarkpostonline.com/news/local/daughter-of-man-in-72-biden-crash-seeks-apology-from-widowed-senator/article_6c9a477e-63be-561b-b771-1330b4cda02d.html
In a non-political sense, and because I want to be helpful to people here, I present this! If you are on unemployment, and do not wish to get a job for a while, BUT you are required to do a weekly job search – this guy has nailed the proper technique to accomplish NOT Getting a Job:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ayiedkcu6Mk
What would happen if the Legacy Press in this country, was doing this? She is hilarious, and this is a short video.
Jonathan: I am a big proponent of fact checking. I try to do it every day on your blog. Cudos to “Anonymous” (the sane one) for being the pre-imminent fact checker here. This is necessary because your blog has turned into a fact free universe where conspiracy theories abound.
The worst offender lately is John Say. In several very wordy comments in response to your column yesterday (“Bad Times at Black Rock”) and my comment he claimed, for example, that the charges against Alexander Smirnov were “MINOR”. A simple fact check shows the contrary. Under 18USC1001 lying to the FBI is a federal crime carrying up to 5 years in prison. Say then claimed the man arrested in SD for threatening election workers in Arizona was just an exercise in “free speech”. Nope. Fact check: 18USC245(b)(1)(A) makes it a federal crime to threaten election workers. I could cite other of Say’s false claims but you get the point.
But on to Claire McCaskill’s criticism of the NY Times. That was prompted by the Times article (2/21) “Fact-checking Biden’s Recent Economic Talking Points”. Every President, especially during an election year, wants to take credit for economic gains during his administration. Biden is no exception. So I don’t fault the Times for trying to put Biden’s claims “in context”.
This election year DJT can’t and won’t run on the economy because by most metrics the economy is doing fine. His campaign is focused on his false claims he is a “victim” of an out of control Biden/ DOJ that is prosecuting him solely to prevent him from being re-elected. It’s all about “election interference”. A fact check shows that is false. DJT is being prosecuted because he led the insurrection to overturn the 2020 election and then refused to turn over top secret documents. And DJT can’t blame Biden/DOJ for the criminal prosecutions in NY and Georgia. Those are state prosecutions over which neither Biden nor the DOJ has control.
Then, we have the $355 million civil judgment in NY by Judge Engoron against DJT. That civil case was brought under NY state law. Can’t blame that on Biden or the DOJ. And what about the civil defamation award of $83.3 million to E. Jean Carroll? DJT can’t blame Joe Biden for that. It was again brought under NY state law. So as the Presidential campaign heats up fact checking is important to expose the lies DJT keeps telling about his criminal and civil cases.
Real wages are lower now then under Trump. GDP is an abstraction.
@DM
You said, ” Jonathan: I am a big proponent of fact checking. I try to do it every day on your blog.”
Cool! Can you do me a favor? Check whether Biden is showing signs of senile dementia for me? You know, like here are the symptoms, and here is how Biden meets, or does not meet them. I can help you some, with a list of symptoms from a neutral, non-partisan source! The NHS! I want to let you know how much I respect what you do, as a fact-checker, and I know that you will do a good, non-partisan job on this! Because, like Mammy Yokum once said, “Truth is better than lying, because it’s truer!”
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Dennis’s idea of fact checking is to cherry-pick polls that support his cliche positions on issues.
Looks like you’re the one that needs fact checking on claims that on most metrics the economy is doing fine. Inflation is a tough one to nail down, because the Biden admin will use a number on inflation that doesn’t count food, housing, and energy, the three major expenses for people. Still, inflation is up 18% and wages just 15%. which means 1) non-seniors are worse off now than when the evil orange man was president, and 2) seniors who haven’t had a 15% increase in SocSec are really hurting. Anyone who goes to the grocery store knows things aren’t fine.
Dennis clearly you did not actually read my posts. Or you would not be “fact checking” me with garbage claims that I addressed
You have no credibility.
You say that 18 US 1001 is significant – is it more significant that possessing crack cocaine ? No.
Until recently (changed under Trump) f you are convicted of possession of small amounts of crack cocaine, you would be guilty of PWID – that is possession with intent to deliver. Did you need to actually try to sell any ? Nope, just have more than about a days personal supply and you will be convicted as a drug dealer and you will go to a federal prison for a long time.
George Papdoulis was convicted of violating 18 US 1001 – like AS, he got a date wrong in communicatiosn with the FBI.
Papadoulis plead guilty and was sentenced to 30days.
Van Der Zant also accepted a plea to 18 IS 1001 – he also got 30 days.
DOJ was recomending no jail time for Flynn in his 18
US 1001 plea deal until it all blew up – because there was no actual investigation at the time Strrzok interviewed Flynn and DOJ withdrew the charges and in more proof of the political insanity and corruption in DC the judge tried to appoint himself prosecutor.
The Flynn case was a real mess – there is excellent evidence – like emails from McCabe that Flynn was actually targeted because he had provided a letter in support of a top Female FBI agent who alleged that her boss – none other than McCabe had sexually harrassed her.
Your “5 years” claim is the MAXIMUM sentence. Outside the J6 witch-hunt that is reserved for people with egregious prior records. Prior crimes like kidnapping and murder.
John Say: You’re up to you old tricks. Distraction and diversion. What does 18USC1001 have to do with time for crack cocaine? And notice I said UP to 5 years. The time varies with the nature of the offense. And you can’t get the facts straight. Popadopoulos got only 14 days, not 30 days, for lying to the FBI. And why is it you can’t seem to spell names correctly. Probably because your fingers can’t keep up with your thoughts–such as they are. But, please, there is always spellcheck! You’re not only dumb but sloppy!
He got a date wrong ?
ROFLMAO
Clown world is real.
“was it on november 8th, 2015, eight years ago, that our intel agent, out of Austrailia, who is now in hiding, missing, unable to be accounted for in the public’s eye, still undercover, pictues wiped from the web save the 2 we sanction, came up to you at the bar and swore he had russian information on Hillary Clinton and all her crimes we know about, MISTER PAPADOUPLOLOUS!!?? ?”
“Uh… wasn’t it the 7th, when Trump was winning and so far ahead, before you guys stole the election overnight with all the fraud 100,000 plus pure Biden votes in all 5 swing states ?”
!!!!!!!!!!*gaskets blown*!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! “THAT’S IT PAPPY ! THAT TEN GRAND OF OURS YOU STASHED OVERSEAS SO WE COULDN’T FRAME YOU WON’T SAVE YOU NOW !”
With respect to your claim regarding the SD man – even ignoring the more than a century of supreme court decisions I cited you should actually READ THE LAW that you cited.
I provided the actual text if the law. But you can actually google it.
It self evidently does not apply.
That does not mean that left wing nuts will not be able to SWAT the SD man drag him to some super majority left wing nut jurisdiction and convict him with a biased judge and jury. We see that out of the left all the time.
It is called the rule of man, not the rule of law.
There is no constitutional law criminalizing threats, that does not REQUIRE that the threat itself must be to commit a crime.
There is no crime of threatening to give someone a puppy.
Further YOUR law requires that the defendant must “interfere” with the lawful acts of election officials.
The threat was to “interfere” with the LAWLESS acts of election officials.
Logic is not your forte. If it is a crime to interfere with the lawless efforts of election officials, then election fraud is legal.
As is typical of left wing nuts you selectively ignore words, you selectively edit the law to claim crimes, you selectively edit the remarks of others to claim offense.
Just to be clear – if it ACTUALLY was true that federal law criminalized protected free speech – the law you cited does NOT, specifically because it requires a threat of violence in response to LAWFUL actions.
Then that law would be unconstitutional on its face.
The law you cite is constitutional because it CLEARLY does not mean what you claim.
And it CLEARLY does not apply to the speach of the man from SD that you cited.
If the SD man had said ”
“I will anally rape you if you correctly count the ballots”
That would violate the law you cite.
Though even then the Supreme court has already found that the threat must still be immediate and credible.
You remain on the wrong side of the facts and the law.
“This election year DJT can’t and won’t run on the economy because by most metrics the economy is doing fine.”
From Trump.
“Under Biden, real incomes have gone down by $7,400 per family. Under President Trump, yearly income went up by more than $6,000.”
You can argue the claims but Trump is ABSOLUTELY running on the economy. It is one of Trumps TOP talking points.
Trump does not claim to be a victim as much as a martyr. He is very clear on this.
His claim is that He is what stands between the democratic corruption of law enforcement and ordinary people.
That is a claim that is striking a chord with many people.
Further the Biden admin has done almost everything possible to amplify Trump’s message.
SWATing pro life protestors, ignoring those threatening the supreme court.
Didn’t Senator Schumer’s
“I want to tell you Gorsuch. I want to tell you Kavanaugh. You have released the whirlwind and you will pay the price. You won’t know what hit you if you go forward with these awful decisions.”
violate 18 USC 245 ?
of course not – because just like the SD man it is protected free speech.
Unlike the SD man – Schumer did not qualify his threat as applying only to an improper act – “cheating”.
“DJT is being prosecuted because he led the insurrection to overturn the 2020 election and then refused to turn over top secret documents.”
And yet there was no insurrection, attempting to overturn an election is legal – or Gore, Abrhams and Clinton among others would be in jail,
There is no crime of refusing to turn over top secret documents.
Under the espionage act the crimes are:
removing classified information from government control without the authority to do so – presidents have the authority to do so.
recklessly handling them – like say leaving them in your garage as Biden did.
Without the authority to do so sharing classified information with someone not cleared to receive is – as Biden did.
Absolutely nowhere in the espionage act or in federal law is there a crime of refusing to turn over classified documents.
“DJT can’t blame Biden/DOJ for the criminal prosecutions in NY and Georgia.”
Of course he can. Just as you are trying to blame trump for the criminal actions of a few J6 protestors.
Unlike Trump – the Biden WH did repeatedly meet with Fanni, and Wade, and Bragg,
and we will likely eventually gt records of meetings with James and Kaplan or their staff.
“Those are state prosecutions over which neither Biden nor the DOJ has control.”
Again false.
You really are unfamiliar with the law. The allegations by Brag actually require a federal campaign finance law violation which the FEC has already rejected. Willis’s charges overlap and duplicate federal charges in DC. Federal law trumps state law, and the constitutional bar to double jeophardy bars being convicted twice for the same act.
DOJ has a great deal of control over all these cases.
Just to be clear YOU constantly claim that the actions of a single person on the right are the collective responsibility of the entire right.
YOU have told us that Trump is controlling House Republicans investigation of Biden.
You do not get to have it both ways.
You can not claim that Trump a private citizen is controlling house republicans – even though Jordan and Comer and Johnson have not met with Trump or his campaign, while at the same time saying that the Biden WH has no control over cases against Trump – when there is plenty of evidence of meetings between the WH and Bragg and Willis and Wade.
This is a form of LYING on your part Dennis.
It is why few beleive you.
“Can’t blame that on Biden or the DOJ”
Why not – you blame Trump for everything under the sun. despite no actual connection
Do you understand that trust in the MSM is barely in double digits ?
Do you understand that includes so called “fact checkers” ?
You are conbstantly making appeals to bad and untrusted authorities while ignoring the evidence available directly to YOU.
You rant that Trump is playing the victim card – he is playing the political weaponization card. He is not after peoples sympathy.
He is after their vote. He is quite litterally sayin if they can do this to me, they can do this to you – but that I am fighting back – because I can, while they would bankrupt you. Thjat is not the victim card.
At the same time YOU are playing the victim card – or atleast the I will not take responsibility for my own choices card.
I cite you facts, law, on very rare occasions experts.
But I OWN my arguments. I have learned at the feet of giants, but my arguments are MINE.
You do not even take responsibility for what you say – YOU are not willing to stand up and say Trump has lied and to point out the actual lie.
You are constantly citing “Factcheckers” mostly the same ones that have been wrong about every major issue for the last decade.
GROW UP, your life is YOUR responsibility.
Take responsibility for what you say.
No we do not have “judgements” we have more lawfare.
This is not ME saying this – it is the view of more than half of the country.
Trump likes to say he is one indictment from a landslide.
There is some truth to that.
The RCP poll of polls has Trump 2% over Biden. The margin is larger in the swing states. Most of the swing states are outside the margin of error. Trump may not win states like NH, or VA or some other lean blue states, but they are part of the battlefield in 2024. Biden not merely has
to flip all the swing states he is on defense in several blue states.
Trump’s is 6pts higher today that he was in 2020 – where he allegedly lost by 44,000 votes.
You laugh at Trump’s appeal to black voters – claiming there is no way they will vote for him.
Yet he has likely picked up 1M black voters since 2020 – that is more than the 44,000 needed to flip the race.
A year ago Trump was behind Biden. Trump has caught up and gone ahead concurrently with your lawfare camapign.
That is NOT just my judgement – that is the judgement of millions of independents and even a few democrats.
People know that Biden can not debate his own shaddow. He can not manage a friendly interview or a friendly press conference.
He shuffles like the demented old man that he is. Almost no one thinks he is running the country.
This is also why though Republicans should slowly continue the Drip, drip, drip of the biden impeachment, ultimately it does not matter,
People will not be voting for or against Biden they will be voting against the incompetent children running the administration.
Regardless, you are free to disagree with my analysis – but rather that rant and rave try proposing another argument,
explaining how Trump’s poll numbers have increased by more than 6% in the past year WHILE you have been engaged in lawfare ?
I argue that it is self evident that people see this lawfare for what it is. Illegal election interferance.
The efforts of a weak party with a weak candidate and a demented president to pull a rabbit out of the hat when they can not when a fair election.
The huge awards in NYC have shocked people. They certainly have not hurt Trump in the polls.
The shocking nature is viewed by many as proof of YOUR corruption.
To reach this you had to – rewrite the NY laws – temporarily extending the statute of limitations or Carrol could not get into a court.
Will that hold up all the way to the supreme court ? I am not sure it will hold up in NY courts.
Regardless, win or lose – you do not seem to grasp that you have benefited Trump, not harmed him.
Tara Read did not get a $100M payday for an allegation that has far more proof and is far more recent.
She can not even get into court – because she can not file a case in a jurisdiction that has bent judges, and biased juries.
As to the Engron case – that is even shakier than the Carroll case.
We have yet to see what the actual effect on NY will be – but it is clear that Hoschul is scared – as she should be.
I do not know if this truckers strike will come off. It might. I do know that the flight of capitol from NYC will speed up.
That will occur slowly and quietly. It takes a long time for billions of dollars to leave a lawless city.
But it will, and even NY’s governor understands engoron and Kaplan have made a big mistake.
Idiots like you on the left do not seem to understand that you come off outside of your own bubble as lawless.
And Trump’s poll numbers prove that this is costing you – not the votes of MAGA voters that were voting for Trump no matter what – but independents and centrist democrats.
You do not have to beleive me – but something has Trump over 50% in half the polls.
DJT can blame anyone for anything – just as you blame people without basis all the time.
What matters is not fact checkers it is voters. You do not seem to grasp that.
The big deal with now is that Trump’s lead is outside the margin of fraud.
That means that the dubious tactics used in 2020 – and often reused in 2022 will not work in 2024,
and they are potentially not worth the risk.
You got away with an awful lot in 2020 because covid made people tolerate way to much meddling in elections.
Because even when the claims of fraud are highly credible it is politically a hard sell to claim you lost the popular vote but had the election stolen by fraud. Trump is currently winning the popular vote by more than any fraud that can be pulled off.
So long as Trump is ahead in the popular vote – the risk to democrats of Fraud being taken seriously is too high.
The Biden administration is practicing more censorship today than in 2020, but Twitter is out from under the government thumb, it is unlikely that anyone is going to censor the new york post for a week again.
And frankly we are past the point of censorship working – Biden has already LOST the hearts and minds of the majority of voters.
You can not censor them back.
The election is months away and lots could change. But the most likely changes favor Trump not Biden.
Peace is not going to break out all over, and even if it did it will not be a peace that makes people happy and celebrate.
The economy is highly unlikely to get significantly stronger, but it could easily get worse.
Aside from everything else elections tend to drive the economy down.
In truth the economy is in a form of the doldrums similar but not identical to the 70’s every increase in growth is matched by an increase in inflation, so the FED is stuck in mildly tight policies that constraine growth AND inflation.
Put simply there are many many possible reasons for the economy to go south – and in truth the FED should have forced a recession to clear inflation 2 years ago. But it did not, so Biden is stuck with Blah headed into an election.
I actually think John Say is a fantastic commenter. He is clear, cogent, direct and knowledgeable. He does not have to resort to glib and silly comments, like I often make, and I am envious of that. I could honestly reply to his every comment with, “Darn! I wish I had said that!” or, “Darn! I wish I had known that!”
Lorne Michaels: I gotta job for Big Fani when she’s done doing time. She’s twice the comedian as Leslie Jones without writers
Here is a very topical video from Jimmy Dore, the rare honest Leftist:
Colbert’s only talent ever was for appearing to be a genuine dunce, and I am less convinced all the time that there was anything remotely resembling acting involved…
Dore did a fantastic job here. He eviscerated Colbert!
You are assuming Colburp had any guts to eviscerate. He is but a bully big-mouthed, brainless Leftard…..but I repeat myself.
LEFTISTS: FANI FIGHTS LIES
JOE: YOU GO GIRL
HUNTER: AMEN FANS
EVERYONE ELSE: LOCKER HER UP
What kind of American is Claire McCaskill ?
She is a rich ex-Senator from Missouri who we were glad to get rid of.
I think Claire McCaskill is also a vampire! Tell me that the woman, at 4:45 of this video, a 1923 film, is not Claire! OK, I know that sounds insane, but I swear that is her!
More like 4:18!
Oh! That is Claire would look like after transitioning. Or maybe before???
I haven’t seen anything this creepy since I watched Morning Joe yesterday.
LOL! They were pretty wilde in those days. . . 🙂
Very glad! A total nut bag.
You & I consider the Democrats almost ludicrous to the point of hilarious that a politician would ask (instruct?) journalists, reporters, and opinion makers to publicly side with another politician, but this Senator obviously does not. Does it have precedent? I’m sure hundreds of thousands have done so privately, but how many have so blatantly done so publicly? If a Republican did it, in the modern era, they’d immediately put him in a vat, and everyone would take a churn.
You said, “the Democrats almost ludicrous to the point of hilarious.”
And you know why? Because they live in an echo chamber, and the Legacy Press, and Saturday Night Live, and Colbert – and none of the “Court Jester Class” poke fun at them. All they get is a pat on the head, no matter how inane and how clueless they are. Some Republicans are clueless too, and the Court Jester Class is merciless with them.
But Democrats could say “So inflation is up a bit, let them eat pâtisseries”, and they would get no pushback. That is why they are in DefCon 1, concerning a Free Press, FOXNews, Julian Assange, Matt Taibbi, Jimmy Dore, Jonathan Turley – anybody who doesn’t toe the Party Line. Claire McCaskill is what you get from a party that tries to shut down conservative speakers at colleges.
My first question Floyd is what do you mean “tries” to shut down conservative speakers at colleges? They’ve pretty effectively shut down conservatives, and any comedians who don’t toe the talking points. My next point would be that liberals, like the Senator here, are given a pass so often that they don’t even see it as a pass anymore. We see this on those exceedingly RARE occasions, such as this one, when a liberal politician is fact-checked. They don’t understand why anyone would fact-check them, in part, because they are so unaccustomed to it. They’re not political, in their worldview. They’re not even representatives in the strictest sense of the word, they’re Congresspeople! Senators!! and Presidents!!! and this whole pesky notion of properly representing views of constituents is an election gambit.
You said, “They’re not political, in their worldview. “, and that is exactly right. More frightening, that same thing holds true for some of the shills in the legacy media. I don’t think that some of them know they are shills, because they don’t hang around the kind of people who would call them shills. They have never had to confront their shillness. They live in a world where they think everybody thinks like them. Subconsciously maybe, that is why they inflate numbers – one guy, at the head of 17 intelligence agencies, a Democrat, morphs into “17 Intelligence agencies said!” You go find 51 former intelligence folk, and you ask them to lie, when you could have just paid one or two of them. But 51 is bigger than 1 or 2.
Thank goodness that Larry Elder was able to get thru to Dave Rubin.
Where has she been? That is all the media, opposition politicians, and TDS victims do, is not only try to fact check, but twist his words, often lie about what he said or, at the very least take what he says out of context. Any fact check they have done against Trump and multiply it by 1,000 to find the lies, fables, false memory, distortions that The Puppet King Biden says.
Truth doesn’t mind being fact-checked. That’s why lies hate it so.
BOOM! Well said.
I wonder if Claire McCaskill is auditioning to replace Kamala Harris, should Biden not throw in the towel? She has the right qualifications – she is a woman, and she stands by her man, “even though he’s hard to understand.”
Thanks Floyd!
And thank you for that great post earlier!