Dartmouth, history Professor Annelise Orleck this week became the latest academic arrested in the pro-Palestinian protests unfolding on campuses across the country. Orleck’s case presents an interesting twice. Her criminal charge came with an order not to return to campus. She is teaching 60 students this term.Ninety protesters were arrested at Dartmouth College, including Orleck who accused police of being “brutal.” Orleck teaches Jewish studies classes and supports the protest. She has objected to the charge of antisemitism raised by the governor and others:
“As a Jewish woman of an age that I grew up in a neighborhood full of Holocaust survivors and knew Holocaust survivors, I have to say that I think this is disingenuous,. It’s a weaponizing of antisemitism for their own political purposes, which is to suppress dissent. And if, in fact, as the governor and the college president said, the point is to make the campus safer for the Jewish community members, I have to say that what happened next made it decidedly less safe for all of us.”
She accused the police of brutality and insisted that she and other professors were merely trying to protect their students from harm. On X, she wrote “Those cops were brutal to me. I promise I did absolutely nothing wrong. I was standing with a line of women faculty in the their 60s to 80s trying to protect our students. I have now been banned from the campus where I have taught for 34 years.”
A video shows Orleck approached police while pointing her finger at them and then struggling with officers.
However, College President Sian Beilock issued a statement in response to the arrests Thursday, saying that faculty and students must accept the consequences of their actions:
“[P]eople felt so strongly about their beliefs that they were willing to face disciplinary action and arrest. While there is bravery in that, part of choosing to engage in this way is not just acknowledging – but accepting – that actions have consequences.”
Beilock rejected the protesters’ demands that the college divest from Israel, saying, “Dartmouth’s endowment is not a political tool, and using it to take sides on such a contested issue is an extraordinarily dangerous precedent to set. It runs the risk of silencing academic debate, which is inconsistent with our mission.”
The position of the college is conflicted on the question of faculty arrests. The week before, Provost David Kotz sent a campus-wide email stating that college policies “specifically prohibit the use of tents and encampments on the Green and other areas of campus.” He added that students and employees would be disciplined if they violate the policies.
The Dartmouth student newspaper reported that the university is seeking to change the conditions of her release to allow her to return to campus to teach her students.The College stated that it “will promptly request that any errors be corrected.”
It did so and the conditions were changed to bar her from the Green, Parkhurst Hall and the President’s residence. However, Orleck has decided not to accept the accommodation. She is reported as saying that the College wanted her to “come back and teach in person,” but she chose not to after consulting with an attorney: “The attorney said, ‘I don’t care what they tell you. If you step on campus with a legal document saying you can be arrested and jailed for stepping on campus, you do not walk back on that campus.’”
It does not seem likely when the “victim” says that she is allowed back on campus.
We have seen other faculty recently arrested for a variety of protests. Recently a Cornell professor was arrested after disrupting an event with conservative commentator Ann Coulter.
At the University of California Santa Barbara, professors actually rallied around feminist studies associate professor Mireille Miller-Young, who physically assaulted pro-life advocates and tore down their display. Despite pleading guilty to criminal assault, she was not fired and received overwhelming support from the students and faculty. She was later honored as a model for women advocates.
At Hunter College in New York, Professor Shellyne Rodríguez was shown trashing a pro-life display of students.
She was captured on a videotape telling the students that “you’re not educating s–t […] This is f–king propaganda. What are you going to do, like, anti-trans next? This is bulls–t. This is violent. You’re triggering my students.”
Unlike the professor, the students remained calm and respectful. One even said “sorry” to the accusation that being pro-life was triggering for her students.
Rodríguez continued to rave, stating, “No you’re not — because you can’t even have a f–king baby. So you don’t even know what that is. Get this s–t the f–k out of here.” In an Instagram post, she is then shown trashing the table.
Hunter College, however, did not consider this unhinged attack to be sufficient to terminate Rodríguez.
It was only after she later chased reporters with a machete that the college fired Rodríguez. She was then hired by another college.
That of course is the point. She is a professor and was teaching these students that they do not have to allow others to speak if they oppose their viewpoints.
The Orleck case is different in a number of respects. The protest clearly violated college rules. However, this was not an effort to prevent classes from being held or disrupting the free speech of others. She was not charged with resisting arrest, property damage, or an act of violence. She clearly cares for these students and has the best motivations in taking the actions that she did with her colleagues. The issue for the college is how to address professors who assist students in the continued violation of campus rules and policies.
Faculty across the country have formed the same line of linked arms to prevent the removal of protesting students. The Orleck case may offer a moderate approach in the imposition of conditions which, if violated again, could result in more serious sanctions.
As an academic community, we need to seek resolutions short of arrests or criminal charges. However, that does not mean that schools should cave to demands as with the controversial settlement at Northwestern. In the end, universities have a right to control their campuses and their buildings.
Moreover, Jewish students and faculty at schools like Columbia and UCLA were prevented from gaining access to areas on the campuses. There have also been reported assaults and threatening conduct at some schools.
Free speech generally ends where the criminal code begins.
For faculty, the situation will become more acute as universities seek to regain control of their campuses against repeated violations. With professors engaged in the ongoing protests, there will be added pressure to hold them accountable. Schools are now raising suspensions and even expulsions for students, the question is how to address faculty engaged in the same or similar conduct.
Again, the Orleck case shows that there is greater leeway when faculty are not accused of supporting property damage or violence. The political speech elements must also be considered. However, as the protests continue, faculty encouragement of continued violations or the occupation of university buildings is likely to result in escalating penalties.
“Actions have consequences” for students and faculty alike.
Jonathan: As you point out in your column Orleck’s linking arms with other professors to protect students was “not an effort to prevent classes from being held or to disrupting the free speech of others”. It would seem, then, that Orlecks’s arrest was an unwarranted interference in protected 1st Amendment activity. That is a issue you have studiously avoided.
The Orleck case illustrates another important point. The protests do not involve “antisemitism” as some claim. Jewish professors have joined Jewish students in the protests. It’s not inherently “antisemitic” to criticize the Netanyahu government’s brutal genocide in Gaza.
But that’s not what we hear from MAGA House Speaker Mike Johnson. He has called on the FBI to find out “if some of this was funded by, I don’t know, George Soros or overseas entities”–the frequent anti-Jewish trope we hear from the MAGA crowd these days. The irony was apparently lost on MAGA Mike that Soros happens to also be Jewish. Nevertheless, MAGA Mike plans to hold hearings in the coming weeks to grill university officials about campus protests and whether they are doing enough to combat “antisemitism”.
MAGA Mike is no stranger to antisemitism. Mike owes his job to DJT who recently hosted antisemite and White supremacist Nick Fuentes. Mike, DJT and they MAGA crowd know what they are doing. They are trying to sow divisions within the protest movement. The same tactic was used during the protests over the Vietnam war. The Nixon administration tried to portray protesters as all a bunch of “Marxists and Communists”. Didn’t work then and it won’t work now!
For once and once only, I agree with Dennis on multiple points. Being against blowing up children and turning Gaza into a parking lot does not equate to antisemitism. However, even if it did, antisemitism is not, or at least should not be, illegal. Americans are allowed to hate anyone they want. This new bill is unconstitutional in the extreme. I grew up in a reactionary conservative household and have been a lifelong Israel supporter and friend to the Jewish people in general. But what is happening in Gaza is unconscionable, immoral, an atrocity and an abomination. In a very few years people will be ashamed of all their I stand with Israel propaganda. Doesn’t make me or any protestor a supporter of Hamas. Where I differ from Dennis is that I, as a Trump supporter, delight in the division on the left, but I’d rather have a united left than thousands of dead and maimed human beings in Gaza with no end in sight.
Hate all you want but don’t turn that hate into incitement to violence or actual violence.
@Anonymous: Re: ” But what is happening in Gaza is unconscionable, immoral, an atrocity and an abomination.” Agree, in that HAMAS, in 2007, militarily removed FATAH from Gaza, assumed full control of the territory subjugated those living there, imposed on them the task of building an infrastructure intended to wage asymmetric war against the Israeli state which they have done for nearly the past two decades, and trained their youth in the terrorism which culminated in the gleeful and proud butchery of Oct 7 2023. The responses to their willful acts of aggression have often brought hell and damnation down on the heads of those so-called ‘innocents’ whose streets, alleyways, have served as the makeshift launch sites for their missiles. They are a faction whose level of moral and ethical turpitude is profound, and I for one will bear no shame in supporting whatever means necessary to route them and others of that ilk out of that region, so as to lift the yoke of oppression from the necks of the people. Unfortunately, yet appears that such a future remains uncertain in that those who claim to represent their interests are still at loggers heads with each other. https://english.aawsat.com/arab-world/4915901-palestinian-govt-sparks-deep-dispute-between-fatah-and-hamas
The Oct 7 attack was timed and planned to disrupt the India-Middle East-Europe Economic Corridor initiative. The implementation of this economic initiative is a direct threat to Russia, Iran and China. Follow the money.
“At the G20 summit held in New Delhi in September 2023, the leaders of France, Germany, India, Italy, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, the United States, and the European Commission unveiled the India-Middle East-Europe Economic Corridor (IMEC). This ambitious trade and investment initiative is comprised of an eastern corridor connecting India to the UAE, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and Israel, and a northern corridor linking those Middle Eastern countries to Europe. IMEC will supplement road and maritime transport routes that already exist, aiming to increase connectivity and economic integration between Asia and Europe via energy infrastructure, railways, high-speed cables, and shipping lanes. The countries participating in IMEC constitute 40 percent of the world’s population and roughly 50 percent of the global economy. This corridor will rely on the UAE and Saudi Arabia’s seaports, roads, and logistics hubs, serving to strengthen these Gulf Arab states’ importance as critical nodes in global trade routes.”
Read more: https://arabcenterdc.org/resource/the-geopolitics-of-the-india-middle-east-europe-economic-corridor/
It’s not anti semitism except for
Calling for death to Israel
Chanting for the India’s
Openly praising October 7th
Wearing hamas colors
Physically and verbally assaulting Jewish students
Also , there are actual records that show soros related funding of several of these groups, as well money from Qatar and CAIR
Nick Fuentes is Hispanic and Trump has orthodox Jewish grandkids, which only a more on would think that they are anti semitic racists
Autocorrect – should be calling for the intifada
The Jews deserve to be hated they persecute and torment the weak and the innocent, God forbid you could see the truth of yourself and your own kind, god forbid right kyke?
George Soros is a JINO. He funds antiSemitic orgs. Google it!
Orleck was preventing the enforcement of the law against Tresspassors. That is illegal.
You keep trying to reframe the actions of these people as legal protest.
Illegally taking possession of what is not yours is theft – not protest.
Most accurately what these students are doing is called “civil disobedience”.
Civil disobedience is by its very name lawless.
It is SOMETIMES effective, and sometimes not.
Its effectiveness depends on TWO things.
The willingness of those engaged in “civil disobedience” to suffer the full weight of the law for their conduct.
Public empathy for that cause.
These protestors are on the Wrong side of BOTH.
They are looking to evade the consequences of their civil disobedience.
There is very little public empathy for anti-semetism.
We have had a similar debate regarding January 6th.
Much of what occurred at J6 was NOT civil disobedience – much for it was actually perfectly legitimate protest – that the left has tried to paint as lawless i.e. civil disobedience.
The bad news for J6 defendants is that those in power have no sympathy for their cause.
The good news is that the more draconian and disproportionate the punishments the greater public sympathy is.
Whether you like it or not, the public has more sympathy for middle aged current and former police and military protesting a stolen election than students protesting for the murder of jews.
If you are going to engage in civil disobedience it would be wise to do so for a cause that people do not find loathsome.
Ghandi would be lost in the dustbin of history if his civil disobediance was about the extermination of Sikhs.
Google search term “Rabbis against Zionism” resulted in 385k results in a quarter-second. Per many posters here, a pro-1A source, the new Federal anti-1A anti-Constitutional law Congress considers now, every anti-Zionist Rabbi would be imprisoned, kicked out of the US or maybe given a death sentence for treason. Congress actually intends to outlaw speech against a foreign nation and its people that is allowed against any other nation and/or people including America and Americans. I wonder, if such law passes and Brandon signs it, if typing this could/might/would get the typer convicted. Such law would not even be allowed in Israel it is so beyond the pale. Zionists may spit on and even kill Rabbis in Israel for being anti-Zionists but the Israeli State itself does not prohibit their protests as the US Congress considers now. Such is the insane state of uniparty affairs on the subject of Israel, Jews and endless wars meant only to impoverish Americans and enrich the already wealthy.
https://www.google.com/search?q=rabbis+against+zionism&oq=rabbis+against+zionism&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIGCAEQRRhB0gEINDYzMmowajGoAgCwAgE&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
@Anonymous: Re;”Google search term “Rabbis against Zionism”…” Let us not confuse and conflate their anti-Zionist seal with the intent and purpose expressed in the HAMAS Covenant of 1988. Members of the Jewish orthodoxy which views the establishment of the Jewish state as contrary to religious dogma are free to parade around the Capital in a manner consistent with the local laws governing same and raise their voices in protest to their heart’s content. If they elected to lay siege against same , occupy, deface and destroy in the manner consistent with that at UCLA then whatever laws they violate in having done so should be brought to bear.
Jewish blood is the problem and a group a deceitful dishonest rabbis, playing a little psych-op on the stupid goyim is not going to save you.
The obligation by local, state, and Federal law enforcement agencies, to prosecute individual to the fullest extent for violations of existing promulgated laws is a first step. Next is to determine what of this anarchy and insurrection can presently be deemed a clear and present danger to the integrity of this Constitutional Republic and considered an attempt to overthrow the government of the United States of America, and have the cojones to deal with it.
For other reader’s benefit, not yours, beyond any apparent hope of logic, you are personally all for enforcing any law no matter how illegal it is, even to a 10th grade person of average intelligence, right?
@Anonymous: RE:”For other reader’s benefit,…” It appears, Captain, that, for other reader’s benefit, not yours, logic would dictate that elucidating the law[s] that one deemed the illegal enforcement of, and the justification of declaring them as such should precede any further debate.
While you did not target this at me, the answer is still ABSOLUTELY.
Those in government are sworn to uphold the law. If they can not do so, they should leave government.
If a law is illegal – civil disobedience and the enforcement of an illegal law is how we get rid of it.
The purpose of civil disobedience is to call attention to immoral laws for the purpose of getting rid of them.
Jim crow is dead because we were all appalled when immoral laws were enforced by police against those deliberately violating them.
This is absurd. This nonsense is not worthy of anyone’s attention for more than a microsecond.
If you think this is an important issue then there is something seriously wrong with you.
The only reason I can think of for Turley spending so much time on these stories is to distract from the fact that his hero, Criminal Defendant Trump, is in a lot of trouble and will very soon be Inmate Trump at Rikers Island.
This is a classic example of: “Don’t pay any attention to the real news of the day. Look over here at this nice shiny object that I have in my hand. Isn’t it wonderful. Look how shiny it is.”
This is the typical approach of the Fox Fantasy Channel, and simply confirms that Turley is getting his orders from his handlers at that sorry excuse for a “news” organization.
@Anonymous: Re:”This is absurd. This nonsense is not worthy of anyone’s attention for more than a microsecond…” We hardly recognized you in your white jump suit, helmet, dark goggles, gas mask, and bear spray canister standing on the ramparts like a true member of the Sturmabteilung. You apparently fled out the back door and away unscathed.
Truly fascinating example of projection by a MAGA moron who is incapable of a rational response to my assertions.
If you want an example of the Sturmabteilung, look no further than the January 6 mob who tried to protect Trump, exactly as the Sturmabteilung tried to protect Hitler.
@Anonymous: Re: ‘Truly fascinating example of projection…..”The assault on the Capital has been deemed a Sunday walk in the park by many compared to the personnel, and materiel which were supplied by outside sources and funding, brought together to create the armed camp which occupied the grounds of UCLA, defaced and destroyed property, rendering some of it unusable for sometime forward, both there and elsewhere across the panorama of higher education in this country. This wide swath of anarchy and insurrection deemed “nonsense not worthy of anyone’s attention for more than a microsecond’ is not surprising coming from you. Do not characterize my political persuasions merely because I take great issue with this reincarnation of the feared ‘Fifth Column’ of the ’50’s, which replaces the American flag with theirs, and wraps a statue of our first President in their colors after defacing it with their hate. As to the actions of the ‘January 6th mob’ being analogous to the Sturmabteilung, that was child’s play compared to the real deal which UCLA was far closer to. You need only to have lived with people who felt their clubs first hand to understand the difference.
Just to be clear, the violence at UCLA was not from the pro-Palestinian student protesters. Although thoroughly misguided in their protests, they were peaceful and entirely within their rights to protest. The violence occurred late in the evening of April 30 when a group of pro-Israeli counter-protesters attacked the students. These counter-protesters were not students.
The university then called the police to protect the students.
UCLA Chancellor Gene Block released a statement condemning the violence: “Late last night, a group of instigators came to Royce Quad to forcefully attack the encampment that has been established there to advocate for Palestinian rights,” the statement reads. “However one feels about the encampment, this attack on our students, faculty and community members was utterly unacceptable.”
When the police arrived they simply cleared the entire protest area.
The students did not instigate the violence.
@Anonymous: Re; “Just to be clear, the violence at UCLA…” “The ‘protest’ has been deemed to have been a clearly planned and organized unlawful physical occupation, defacement and destruction of private property to which neither registered students or outside participants had any rights. ‘How to” training documents and manuals have been ‘captured’ which clearly outline the manner in which the planning and manner of execution was to be carried out. In the process of doing so, a well supplied and fortified encampment was established for the purpose of coping with any eventualities. As instructed to do so, participants had clearly outfitted and equipped themselves in a fashion designed to physically resist, by any means necessary, any attempt to remove them. Suffice it to say, had there not been any intervention by the opposition, the matter might have very well gone the way of Columbia, with the police eventually moving in and taking over. The ‘occupation’ at UCLA did not intend to have that happen without a fight. They were intentionally prepared, both physically and psychologically to so. “I dare you to knock this chip off my shoulder” was the message. It was answered in kind. As to Gene Block, I have a good friend who attended grade school with him in Monticello. The comment was; “He was a useless wuss then, as well!”
So Jews being denied entry into libraries BECAUSE THEY ARE JEWISH is not big news to this fool? Now imagine if blacks, gays or trans people were denied entry anywhere. Now imagine if women were denied entry anywhere. Now imagine if Muslims were denied entry anywhere. Cripes this A**hat wouldn’t even deny entry into our country to illegals, but he is fine with Jews being denied equal rights.
Hey Analymous, when you shave tomorrow you will see a Jew hater in the mirror.
Trump is not Turley’s hero.
I hope the left is stupid enough to convict Trump and send him to Rikers.
I can think of little that will assure a Trump landslide more.
I can not predict what a corrupt Manhattan Judge and a biased Manhattan jury will do.
But this trial is going far worse for the left that I could possibly have imagined.
The prosecution witnesses have testified:
Trump has used the press to kill unfavorable stories and to advance favorable ones long before he was a political candidate.
That other wealthy people, celebrities, and politicians – including a list of democrats do this all the time.
That Trump was not involved in the efforts to kill the McDougal and Clifford stories – that was all done entirely by Cohen.
That all the lawyers involved – not merely Cohen are pretty disreputable. That they routinely sell out their clients.
We have also learned Why Trump hired Cohen – because This is what Cohen does. He is an entertainment lawyer with contacts through the industry – one of many other similar lawyers whos job is to promote stories their clients want promoted and kill stories they want killed.
That Trump was far more concerned about how Melania would take this than anything political.
That Trump and “Daniels” knew each other because she tried to get onto the Apprentice – she failed.
Bragg wasted an entire day getting a bit of audio admitted into evidence that proves nothing other than that Micheal Cohen recorded some of his calls to Trump.
So we have a case where if the proscuion could prove EVERYTHING they claim – would STILL not be a crime, and yet bit by bit the prosecutions own witnesses are proving that even the non-crime claims of the prosecutors DO NOT HOLD UP.
Professors are supposed to be an example for students. If professors break the campus rules, they should be terminated plain and simple. If they committed crimes, they should also be prosecuted.
Ignoring an order to disperse is grounds for arrest (see: Riot Act). Resisting arrest is grounds for being pushed to the ground.
Orleck may have wanted to be arrested to show solidarity with her students. It’s called the Stockholm Syndrome, a proposed condition or theory that tries to explain why hostages sometimes develop a psychological bond with their captors. The GW situation is appalling and the failure to allow the police to clean out the kids playing cowboys and hamas and dressing up George Washington as a terrorist should cost the school’s administrator his or her job. The silver lining in this otherwise dark cloud? Each passing day, as these protests continue, the polls show enormous gains for a second Trump presidency. He seems to be doing to Biden what the canabals did to his Uncle Bosie!
Russia should be deputinized just like how Germany was denazified.
It is obvious too many Colleges HATE the USA!
Time to END all Federal Aid including backing student loans. Also federal aid to cities, states and non-profits!
Let Democrats fund their own failure and FASCISM!
“Federal aid” is unconstitutional per Article 1, Section 8.
Please cite any power to tax for or fund “federal aid” to universities or to regulate any aspect or facet of, or to any degree, the education industry.
Isn’t there something in law about 3rd person testimony or heresay? None of these protesters have 1st hand knowledge. It’s all heresay. The most that can be said is the protests are about heresay an opportunity to out the feebleminded I suppose.
Thank you, Mr. Turley.
I find Professor Orleck’s logic to be illogical. She says she grew up among Holocaust survivors and knew holocaust survivors but obviously learned absolutely nothing from her experience. She is as bad as all the antisemites that have proceeded her in history and blamed the Jewish People themselves for all the pogroms, slaughters, and annihilation that has been visited on these people since god chose them. If she truly knew something about history and not just her little slice of it, she might have recognized the words she used as being remarkably similar to the words of the National Socialist German Workers party of the Hitlerite Reich.
She sounds like an acolyte of Noam Chomsky or even a self-hating Jew.
So Jewish students and others are weaponizing antisemitism in order to be treated respectfully and study safely just like any other student. My concept of history and her concept of history are in different universes.
What part of “Never Again” does she not understand. That it’s ok to meekly walk to slaughter or you should resist slaughter to the last breath you have.
Wonder what dennis and gigi can say
to twist the rise of antisemitism under Biden
to be all Trump’s fault instead.
@Anonymous: Re:”Wonder what dennis and gigi can say..” Be patient and have your umbrella open.
What would happen if you work at a bank, retail establishment or any business, pitch a tent at your place of employment, carry a sign protesting the investments your employer makes and ignore the directive of police called to remove you?
well google people are now suing based on racism
If your employer was sponsoring a country engaging in genocide like Israel is— starving women and children for vengeance, ignoring the rule of war about proportionality, then if you didn’t speak against it, you be complicit. Proportionality in this situation is comparing Israel killing almost 40,000 Palestinians, mostly women and children, so far, and destroying their homes and hospitals, and starving people and refusing to allow aid with 1,200 Israelis. Most Palestinians who were killed were not Hamas or even Hamas supporters. It’s wrong and it needs to stop.
Israel is at war – just as the US was at war with Japan after Pearl Harbor, or with Afghanistan after 9/11
The Japanese killed 2403 was the US obligated to end the war when a similar number of Japaneses had died.
about 3400 were killed at the World Trade Center on 9/11. That act of war resulted int he deaths of conservatively 200,000 cvilians in Iraq and Afghanistan and possibly as many as 2M.
The requirement for “proportionality” is NOT that the response to the act of war must be proportionate to the act of war.
Germany did not attack the US – yet we went to war with Germany.
The rule of proportionality in military conflicts requires that the tolerated number of civilians deaths must be proportionate to the importance of the target.
As an example – killing 20,000 Germans would be considered proportionate if the target was Adolph Hitler. But not for a Wehrmacht soldier.
Ah….yes Evergreen….always far Left and very…very….very “Red” as in Red Star Red.
The place where the 60’s Leftists went and reproduced unfettered.
When protesters show up with shields,sticks, rocks, helmets, face masks, and gas masks, Lazers, Bear Spray, with bottles of frozen water for projectiles….that is a riot and nothing peaceful about it.
Old fashioned meet force with overwhelming force…Riot Batons, non-lethal projectiles, and over watch done by Officers with lethal force capabilities is exactly the right response.
No negotiation…violate the Protest Permit Rules and immediately be removed from the site and remanded to the County Jail.
Prosecutors and DA’s must do their part in preserving the peace….and the Judges must do theirs in applying legal and appropriate sanctions for those who seek violence over peace. The Police are there to preserve the peace and protect every citizen….protesters included.
But…opt for violence then FAFO Rules apply.
Jonathan Turley, they are not ‘pro-life’, merely ‘pro-fetus’. Pro-life includes support for infants, children and their parents, especiallythe mother.
Pro-life includes support for infants, children and their parents, especiallythe mother.
David, can you direct me to that portion of the Constitution gives the federal govt power to influence any of these things.
iowan2 — ‘General Welfare’
ALL
WELL
PROCEED
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GENERAL WELFARE MEANS ALL, OR THE WHOLE, WELL PROCEED.
MOTHERS AND ABORTIONISTS DO NOT CONSTITUTE ALL, OR THE WHOLE, OF AMERICAN SOCIETY.
GENERAL WELFARE IS BASIC INFRASTRUCTURE SUCH AS ROADS, BRIDGES, WATER, POST OFFICE, ELECTRICITY, RUBBISH COLLECTION, SEWERS, AND OTHER COMMODITIES OR SERVICES THAT ARE NOT READILY PROVIDED IN THE FREE MARKETS OF THE PRIVATE SECTOR.
GENERAL WELFARE DOES INCLUDE INDIVIDUAL WELFARE, SPECIFIC WELFARE, PARTICULAR WELFARE, FAVOR, OR CHARITY.
I have a question that I struggle with sometimes. If you are “pro-life, how can you be for the death penalty. And if you support abortion rights, can you be against the death penalty?
Econ, well the fetus is innocent life while the guy on death row actually took someone’s life therefore being pro-life regarding abortion and in favor of the death penalty are both was of supporting life.
Thats the right and wrong of it.
Execution as punishment for capital crime, is something the People have debated and decided is the best path for them.
Until Roe. The exact same system of self governance, again, reached a decision of the best path for the people
You may want to live under rule by unelected authoritarians. But I prefer our representative republic.
Abortion is homicide.
If a pregnant woman is murdered, the perpetrator is charged with double murder.
After 24 hours of fertilization, a human being exists and will persist for an average of 76 years.
After 24 hours of fertilization, the deliberate termination of a human being constitutes homicide.
JT’s work place, GWU, asked the DC cops to clean out the pro Hamas encampment, but they refused. Do your job, boys.
This is the product of a lifetime stewing in the bouillabaisse of far left progressivism.
Orleck was interfering with the police who were lawfully doing their duty. If they asked her to move so they could perform their job and she did not comply, she broke the law and had to be removed, and was liable to be charged. End of story.
She has a B.A. from Evergreen State College. I think I have heard of that college before, somewhere. Anyway. Ms. Orleck will benefit greatly if she is banned from University life. She will meet lots of interesting people, and encounter new ideas. Maybe she can live around a bunch of those poor single, black mothers she wrote about! Wouldn’t that be peachy!
Floyd, I am not sure if you were being facetious or not but for those who may not be aware Evergreen is the insane asylum masquerading as a college that was rightfully sued and was forced to pay many millions to the small bakery that they attacked.
The fact that this prof went to Evergreen is for me probable cause that she is an agitator.
Hullbobby,
That was oberlin, not evergreen
Universities are for students. Paid agitators and their supporters require 1 week’s incarceration.