Across the media, journalists have recognized that the Hunter Biden laptop is authentic and, as established early by American intelligence agencies, not “Russian disinformation.” With the authentication of the laptop in the Delaware trial as “real” and untampered, most media has chosen to walk away with a slightly embarrassed shrug. Not the Washington Post. Its columnist, Philip Bump, was one of the most prominent purveyors of what the U.S. government now calls a “conspiracy theory.” This week, Bump ran another column to assure liberals that they were right all along about the laptop story.
In 2021, when media organizations were finally admitting that the laptop was authentic, Bump was still declaring that it was a “conspiracy theory.” Despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary, Bump continued to suggest that “the laptop was seeded by Russian intelligence.”
After Bump had a meltdown in an interview when confronted over past false claims, I wrote a column about the litany of such false claims, including the laptop conspiracy theory. The Post surprised many of us by issuing a statement that they stood by all of Bump’s reporting, including the laptop conspiracy theory. That was in August 2023.
Well, Bump is back.
In his column, Bump takes after various people calling the media to account for burying this story before and after the election, including myself. I felt that it warranted a response.
In hitting Sean Hannity for a recent segment, Bump makes a common evasion among those who have long downplayed the laptop scandal. He objected that Hannity “is conflating the laptop presented as evidence at the trial, the one obtained by the FBI in 2019, with the ‘laptop’ that was the source of the New York Post story.”
For those of us who have covered the laptop since the story ran at the New York Post, it is as maddening as it is mendacious.
At the time of the story, some of us noted that the contents of the laptop could be confirmed since these emails and messages involved third parties. Some quickly confirmed the contents as authentic. The Bidens had long been accused of influence peddling and special dealing by using Joe Biden’s positions as senator, vice president, and president.
Moreover, as the media was referencing the debunked letter of former intelligence officials on this possible likely Russian disinformation, American intelligence quickly confirmed that there was no such evidence to support that claim.
The media ignored the actual intelligence agencies in favor of former intelligence officials who were organized by Biden campaign operatives to release the letter. Biden then cited the letter to refuse to answer questions about his son’s influence peddling and unlawful conduct.
Bump and others used the question over whether the laptop was an authentic copy or a tampered copy to avoid any serious investigation into the underlying emails. Many simply threw up their hands and said “oh well, what can we do.” To this day, the media has shown little interest in the influence peddling operation. Few people seriously argue that the media would have shown the same limited response if these emails tied Trump children to millions in foreign influence peddling schemes.
But Bump was not done:
After Hannity lamented the media’s silence on the so-called “critical development,” Turley offered a theory for why that silence had ensued.
‘If the laptop is authentic, if those files are real,’ he said, “then you have these detailed accounts of a multimillion-dollar influence-peddling operation run by the Biden family. Those would also be authentic. But the media just simply doesn’t want to go there.’
Except that we already know that many of those files were real, because we got access to them and verified them. The reason the media ‘doesn’t want to go there’ on breathless claims about a ‘Biden family’ influence-peddling operation is that the material doesn’t prove any such operation. It shows — as has by now been exhaustively explained — work done by Hunter Biden and his Uncle James that involved lots of money but did not demonstrably involve President Biden. The entire point of the House Republican impeachment effort has been to prove Joe Biden’s involvement; they have been unable to do so.”
Once again, Bump makes it sound like the Post vigorously and quickly verified the laptop. The belated acknowledgement did not come until much later. It was not until March 2022 that the Post finally admitted that the laptop was real, but then did comparably little to pursue the corruption and other unlawful conduct detailed on the laptop.
Washington Post columnist Thomas Rid appeared to state the quiet part out loud by telling the media: “We must treat the Hunter Biden leaks as if they were a foreign intelligence operation — even if they probably aren’t.”
For many, the Post has alienated readers who want to see equally rigorous attention to scandals on both sides of the political aisle. Indeed, the Post’s new publisher recently dropped a truth bomb on his writers by telling them “let’s not sugarcoat it…We are losing large amounts of money. Your audience has halved in recent years. People are not reading your stuff. Right. I can’t sugarcoat it anymore.”
Yet, it is Bump who is insisting this week that it is Fox News (the most watched cable news network) that is being tuned out in his column titled “The right takes a Biden-laptop victory lap around an empty arena.”
In deflecting questions about the coverage of the Biden corruption scandal, Bump simply ignores witness testimony that has proven that President Biden lied about having no knowledge of his son’s foreign dealings and met with his clients both in person and over the phone. More importantly, he ignores that this was a massive influence peddling operation where President Biden was the object. He was the “brand” being sold.
Influence peddling is a form of political corruption that the government continues to denounce worldwide. The fact that millions went to Biden family members rather than the President does not change the fact that this was one of the largest influence peddling operations in history. Just this week, even Politico stated the obvious that seems to escape Bump on this elaborate Biden operation involving not just family but close associates of the President. As I explained in my testimony in the Biden impeachment hearing, federal courts have repeatedly stated that it does not matter if a principal received money as opposed to family members. It can still constitute bribery and other offenses.
In the end, Bump continues to express frustration with those who would question his conclusions, as he did in his interview when confronted by a host asking about disproven claims. Bump exploded at the hubris of the interviewer and suggested that he is all the proof that the interviewer should need on such issues: “I’m sitting here and I’m telling you, you’re wrong about these things, and you don’t listen.”
Update: Notably, after the authentication of the computer in federal court, Hunter Biden’s lawyer, Abbe Lowell, filed a motion on withdraw the lawsuit against former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani in which claimed that the laptop contained manipulated data.
While I am here at home alone in my pajamas, waiting for my mommy to return from her glory hole gig at the local pool hall, and fix me dinner, allow me to post a couple of spastic nonsense posts and give you good folks and Turley all the wisdom I have gained since I graduated junior high in May.
You DID NOT graduate junior high, you liar!!! You were simply passed along to 10th grade because of your age (24)! Maybe by the time that you are 30, they will give you a high school diploma just to get rid of you!!!
LOL to stop his leering at the teenage girls, you say.
This garbage about ‘pajamas’ and ‘mommy’ was posted by Floyd James Estovir who is also Thinkthrough and Waters.
^^^^spastic idiot non savant formerly known as brandrunner. He is also spartacus
There you have it folks.
If the coward turdrunner and Seth Myers say it, it must be true.
Bump is a hack stooge working for a propaganda outlet.
Trump MUST undo Smith-Mundt Modernization Act and shut down multiple state-run news outlets.
Republicans On Hunter Verdict
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) dubbed Hunter Biden “the Deep State’s sacrificial lamb,” while Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) called the conviction “kinda dumb tbh.” Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) called Trump’s legal woes “an entirely different situation.” And Trump himself claimed the trial was a “distraction” from the Biden family’s “real crimes.”
The two historic convictions, issued by juries just weeks apart, have yielded two stark narratives — one that derides the American justice system as rigged and another that insists it isn’t, despite ongoing efforts to undermine it.
President Biden said he would accept the outcome of the case and “continue to respect the judicial process” as his son considers an appeal, building off an earlier promise not to pardon his son if convicted.
Trump, however, turned toward retribution. The former president told various media outlets it was “very possible” Democrats could face prosecution down the road, that he had “every right to go after them” given his own prosecution and that “sometimes revenge can be justified.”
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4718656-trump-hunter-stark-political-narratives/
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Theoretically, Hunter Biden’s conviction completely debunks the Republican view that Joe Biden has ‘rigged’ the justice system. But rightwing conspiracy theories are like the mythic hydra that keeps sprouting more heads.
Seth Meyers On Republican Reaction To Verdict
“You would think this news would definitively disprove the GOP’s ludicrous notion that Joe Biden is somehow pulling the strings to target his political opponents, since he can’t even get the justice department to lay off his own son,” Meyers noted. “But that’s not how the GOP’s reality distortion field works. Their conspiracy theories are unfalsifiable. They can’t be disproven. When one lie is debunked, a bigger, crazier lie takes its place.” He played a series of clips in which Fox News hosts and other Republican figures claimed Hunter Biden’s conviction was actually a “distraction” or “red herring” from the “real crimes” of the “Biden crime family”.
https://www.theguardian.com/culture/article/2024/jun/13/seth-meyers-hunter-biden-trump
Today’s SCOTUS decision proves without a doubt that the court is not “right leaning”
And it also proves that a jury CAN do the right thing. It does NOT PROVE that all juries do the right thing, hence we get the ridiculous verdicts in Merchan’s court and the stupid decision in the E. Jean Carroll thing.
The Merchan jurors did EXACTLY what they planned to do from the start. Ask yourself this. Who in their right mind would have joined that jury with an open mind??? And risk being the cause of a hung jury??? Awww, hell no. THAT persons life would have been OVER. Family outed and doxxed within 2 hours. And anyone too dumb to know that, I would not want on ANY jury. Those few who were not convinced of his guilt going in got themselves excused. So you got EXACTLY what you should expect. 12 people prepared to convict.
Mostly it just proves how screwed up our government is.
While I agree with SCOTUS on the OUTCOME.
The CORRECT answer is not to deny standing.
The correct answer is to abolish the FDA.
The problem is not abortion pills.
The problem is the FDA. It is and has ALWAYS been worse than useless.
It radically increases the cost of food and drugs while decreasing the incentives to develop all but the most broad market drugs.
It also makes no sense to regulate “food” and “drugs” within one agency. Our food supply is basically poison and making people sick so that they go to the doctor to get prescribed drugs for the illness caused by the poison food supply which is basically packaged chemicals and sugar. So it makes sense in this regard to regulate food and drugs under one agency. That’s how corrupted it all is.
Anonymous, the subject is the Hunter laptop. Have you not the intestinal fortitude to address the issue at hand or is a cowardly changing of the subject your common way of not answering the question with a well thought out rebuttal. It seems that you would be at the ready to defend your declarations that the laptop Is Russian disinformation as you have done so many times in the past. We see your tucked tail as you have turned to run.
Thinkthrough is Floyd James Estovir who changes names 30 times per day. Yet ‘he’ of all people is calling Anonymous a ‘coward’. Go figure!
Thirty times per day is way over-estimating me. Maybe twenty times on a good day???
Not just any anonymous, ya spastic idiot non savant. That anonymous was formerly brandrunner, and the COWARD stopped posting under that name because of withering ridicule. Oh my, ridiculed on a blog site!!!
^^ Paid DNC troll. Ignore. ^^
ATS – yes, A prosecution that has been obstructed in every possible way by the DOJ and the WH and others in the executive that Weis only went forward with reluctantly and only with Weak Tea charges that do not get within 1000 miles of the REAL corruption involving JOE – that Debunks the evidence of weaponized lawfare ? Only on the far left.
Hunter has been found guilty of 3 relatively minor charges that are STILL 1000 times more serious than Fraud in Manhattan.
Hunter got an honest judge, surprisingly an honest Jury – I really expected the Jury to hang or acquit just because it is Biden country.
And a highly reluctant but competent prosecutor. The Right is frothing at speculation that Joe will Commute of PArdon – which Joe has promised he will not.
Honestly what Promise has Joe Biden ever kept. There is no need to speculate. As soon as it is Clear that the Election is over – Hunter Biden will be pardoned. Not just for what he has been convicted of but for a laundry list of other things, as will the rest of the Biden family and Joe will pardon himself to boot.
And in the highly unlikely event that Hunter is NOT pardoned – Trump will do the same on Day One. Why ? Because it is in the interests of the country, and because Trump does not want the Biden’s on the news every night as prosecutions go forward.
Hunters appeals and attempt to Prosecute Joe and his family will dominate the news Just as the Trump investigations, indictments and prosecutions have – and that will distract from Trump accomplishing his agenda.
One of the stupidest things that comes from the left – Probably because THEY do not act that way is the presumption that everyone else will act at odds with their self interests.
Putin Favored Clinton over Trump – Because that was in Putin and Russia’s self interests
Trump did NOT go after Hillary – because that was in his self interest.
Trump will NOT go after the Biden’s – because that is NOT in his self interest – or that of the country.
But there WILL BE CONSEQUENCES. For those on the right thinking lots of people are going to jail – probably not.
But there will be investigations.
By Congress,
likely by a Presidentical blue ribbon commission.
By DOJ and other cabinets offices.
By State AG’s.
Democratic operatives who have been instrumental
I do in this lawfare, but who MOSTLY are unknown to the rest of us are going to be spending massive amounts of money on legal fees – just as Democrats have done to republicans.
It is NOT in trump’s interest to seek retribution.
It IS in the republican parties. This is why the party apartich are unified behind Trump.
These guys are not stupid. Trump has likely spend $100m in legal fees.
There is not any other republican who could afford that.
But that is EXACTLY what democrats will do to future republicans if Republicans do not stop this NOW.
Those in the brass of the republican party understand this logically.
But you can review posts by other republicans here – ALOT of them want BLOOD – and in fact they are ENTITLED to it.
Democrats have behaved CRIMINALLY.
There are only two outcomes that do not collapse into anarchy.
A understanding based on MASD – mutually assured destruction is reached.
Or SCOTUS reignes that nonsense in brutally and quickly.
I do think SCOTUS is going to do something about this – but not quickly.
ATS, While there are many republicans who are NOT so forgiving as Trump – What Trump ACTUALLY said was that though Justified he was NOT going to seek retribution – it would not be good for the country and not for his agenda.
But neither Republicans nor the rest of the country are likely to be so forgiving.
Trump STILL leads in the polls. That means that the majority of people – either do not care about the lawfare or they re ANGRY with Democrats over it. Even if those who are angry are not the majority – they are a large and powerful portion of the country.
Read posts on this blog – many want half the democratic party in orange jumpsuits. They are not going to get that.
But they are going to get something. And they are JUSTIFIED in doing so.
You had batter hope that Trump is sincere in NOT wanting retribution – not because you need to be afraid of Trump, but because Trump’s interests are in the success of his presidency not in jailing enemies. The most important force tempering retribution will be Trump.
I would ask you why you feel the people who stood buy as you waged lawfare against Trump, are going to come to YOUR defense ?
Something close to half the country wants JUSTICE – which you can retribution. Even if that is only 1/3 so long as the same people who did little about your lawfare against Trump do the same as the worm turns. Those behind this are in for a rocky time ahead.
It could not happen to a more deserving group.
Goose meet Gander.
Norm Eisen is top of the list for retributive justice. He’s one of the primary architects of Democrat Lawfare strategy.
Anyone watching Norm Eisen testify today in the hearing on Manhattan DA case could not help but see a total psychopath lunatic. He should do actual prison time.
Marc Elias. Andy McCabe. Comey and the FBI Cabal of Crooks. The 51 Spies who Lied.
Who else? Letitia, Alvin, Fani. Engoron. Merchan. Colangelo. Jack Smith.
The list is long of those who broke the law and abused power.
If only to bankrupt them with legal fees and make them squirm, it will be sweet, sweet justice. Let the process be their punishment. To see a few get perp walked into prison will be a bonus.
Please allow me to do my best impersonation of a spastic idiot non savant lefty libtard, like the ones who post here:
Todays Supreme Court decision proves that they are not a right wing cabal
Key passage from the post from turdrunner below
I am a spastic idiot non savant douchebag
——-turdrunner
Yea, the problem with idiots like him is, they never ask why.
Why did these people feel the need to do this?
Oh, to impact the election.
And who asked them to do it?
Anthony Blinken
Nothing to see here.
OK to question the motive of Rudy G, but not these people
Oh, the IRONY
Professor Turley Writes:
“As the media was referencing the debunked letter of former intelligence officials on this possible likely Russian disinformation–
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Below are the principal paragraphs of the letter in question.
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“We want to emphasize that we do not know if the emails, provided to the New York Post by President Trump’s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani, are genuine or not and that we do not have evidence of Russian involvement — just that our experience makes us deeply suspicious that the Russian government played a significant role in this case,” the letter, released Monday, states.
“If we are right, this is Russia trying to influence how Americans vote in this election, and we believe strongly that Americans need to be aware of this,” the signers added.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/521823-50-former-intelligence-officials-warn-ny-post-story-sounds-like-russian/
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Key Passage From Above:
“provided to the New York Post by President Trump’s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani”
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According to Professor Turley, mainstream media was supposed accept, without question, letters provided by Rudy Giuliani. The ‘same’ Giuliani who’s been indicted in both Georgia and Arizona regarding the fake electors scheme!
Mainstream media had every reason to be skeptical. What’s more, there is nothing in this letter to ‘debunk’. The signatories were simply issuing a very sensible precaution.
^^ Paid DNC troll. Ignore. ^^
ATS – no one is to accept anything from anywhere without question .
Whether you like it or not the NY POST authenticated allt he materiual they printed before printing it – that is NOT all that difficult to do.
Glenn Greenwald – whose actual beat is National security news, pointed out in Oct 2020 that it is actually very easy to authenticate whatever material a journalist seeks to print.
Next I know those of you on the left love character assassination – but Guilliani is a highly reputable person with a record for integrity 10,000 times yours.
I am so tired of hearing these idiots call my name as “fanny” in a way an attempt to humiliate me
While they over there running they mouth, I’m over here payin’ them no mind
First, you just cant make this stuff up. This was Willis today, speaking at a black church near Atlanta. While the spastic idiot non savant has been posting random nonsense responses to his own posts, the comedy gold on the left writes itself.
Second, i haven’t been in a black church lately. Do you still get extra points for talking like an illiterate bumpkin?
Yea, I think it was Dennis, who called Fani the “first intelligent black woman in a courtroom”.
I guess he thought all the rest were perps.
There is another BIG Willis Rico case in GA that is blowing up in here face. The misconduct is actually WORSE than the Trump case.
RISE UP NOW
Just because I cannot resist good irony, or pointing out the total absence of self awareness of the modern Marxist, I give you this gem, from Svelaz-George
Conservatives are always complaining about the poor state of education in the country and yet suddenly they are all experts and armchair
scientistsProfessors of Law, who think they are qualified to say experts are wrong.I lost count. How many times in the last 6 weeks has Svelaz-George, the Spastic Idiot Non Savant, told Turley that he is wrong? I have the over/under at 100.
Looks like De nile aint just a river in Egypt.
TDS is strong with this one.
I blame the lack of insurance covering mental health issues.
-G
40 years later, the tune still rocks and the lyrics very applicable to our nation.
Roland Orzabal & Curt Smith look and sound terrific.
🎶 I’m so glad we’ve almost made it
So sad they had to fade it
Everybody wants to rule the world
All for freedom and for pleasure
Nothing ever lasts forever
Everybody wants to rule the world 🎶
Thanks for that Estovir. Good stuff!
Any idea, are they touring?
@Anon
They toured last year. Saw them, they were great.
Dammit
“I’m sitting here and I’m telling you, you’re wrong about these things, and you don’t listen.”
“let’s not sugarcoat it” Philip Bump, your butt is on the line and so are the Others, as well as Mine.
Jeff Bezos owns this Rag and he’s taking it into A.I. Web 3.0 within the next decade.
A Pink-Slip will be coming your way which means your out-the-door soon.
Better get your butts moving or you’ll be working the graveyard shift in the lobby of a Motel 6.
Sugarcoat – Oh How Sweet It Is!
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George says:June 13, 2024 at 2:06 PM
What?!!!
Every American who purchases a gun is illegally and unconstitutionally required to complete a form.
Old George the Constitutional Expert and former Framer,
Please (leaving your bag of cliche’s on your back stoop, next to your spittoon) cite the Federal regulation, code, or statute that REQUIRES EVERY AMERICAN who purchases a gun, to complete a form.
ATF Form 4473 – Firearms Transaction Record Revisions | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives
https://www.atf.gov/firearms/atf-form-4473-firearms-transaction-record-revisions
Thanks for that response to some other question.
Next.
Anonymous whoever you are
If that’s not clear, below is a link where you can educate yourself. The rest of us will wait for George, who has all the answers, to reply.
https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/atf-form-4473-required-when-unlicensed-person-sells-or-disposes-firearm#:~:text=Firearms%20Home-,Is%20an%20ATF%20Form%204473%20required%20when%20an%20unlicensed,or%20disposes%20of%20a%20firearm%3F&text=No.,manufacturer%2C%20importer%2C%20or%20dealer.
Sorry I’m confused.
What’s the issue?
I’ve filled out several 4473s over the years.
Its not a big thing. Usually an approval within 5min… the longest took 15min back in ~2000.
But then again I’m not a crack head.
-G
Read Constitution Expert George’s post above. It’s in italics. He makes an ignorant claim (or blatant lie) and, like a good little Marxist, he doesn’t want to answer for it.
He would rather move on to blabbering about what he is allowed to put into his mouth, besides his foot.
@Waters,
I tend to ignore George when I can…
-G
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
The requirement to complete any form, which varies by jurisdiction, is unconstitutional “infringement” of the absolute right to keep and bear arms provided by the 2nd Amendment.
Please cite the Constitution for any enumerated power to regulate arms.
It will never be Necessary and Proper to violate the Constitution and infringe, in any way, on the 2nd Amendment right to keep and bear arms, which, you will notice, is denied and, therefore, unconstitutional.
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2nd Amendment
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Here, George exhibits his Marxist tendencies again. Conflating and deflecting from his statement
Every American who purchases a gun is illegally and unconstitutionally required to complete a form.
This is a lie. Which makes George.a liar. If it were merely a mistake, he would not resort to these Marxist tactics. In this regard, Old George and New George are just alike.
There is no such requirement George. There is no requirement IN ANY JURISDICTION, to fill out a form to acquire a gun.
The requirement is this. If you wish to purchase a gun from a manufacturer, importer or licensed dealer, you must fill out a form.
Whether THAT is constitutional was not my question. Nor was it yours. You asked about a requirement that does NOT exist.
Red herring don’t go ‘round here, law dog. (Paraphrased from ike clanton in Tombstone)
@George… and right on time you spout gibberish.
Form 4473 has nothing to do w the second amendment.
You’d know this if you paid attention to Hunter’s case.
As to regulating firearms… yeah its constitutional for the government to make a law to regulate firearms.
Can you say NFA?
So please quit while you’re behind.
-G
G
No way I was going to get into the weeds with George on 2A. His stance is clear. We need the Constitution and some courts and nothing else.
He was actually about to argue that filling out a form is “infringing the right”
He doesn’t know what that phrase means. He conflates checking a box and signing your name with “infringing the right”. It doesn’t impact the “right” at all. Now, if that information is then used to “infringe the right” (deny a gun), then we have something to talk about. But any idiot who says writing on a piece of paper “infringes the right”, is someone not worth having a discussion with.
Hypothetically, does merely checking a box and signing your name add a step to acquiring a gun? Sure. Does it “infringe the right” to keep and bear a gun? That’s so fvcking ridiculous its not worth comment. LOL, yet I just spent some time on it for George’s sake. Using that information to deny a gun, that’s a different story. Thats the problem with extremism. It doesn’t stand up to the light of logic very well.
So instead, I recognized that he was speaking on a subject of which he was ignorant, gun purchasing, and shoved that crap up his upturned nose.
So he resorted to the marxist tactics of conflating and deflecting. Which makes him a liar. And I don’t play well with liars.
Yes filling out a form and checking a box “infringes on a right” – but no right is absolute.
Even free speech the most protected of all rights, does not mean you can publish Child porn or snuf films.
Government CAN require you to get a permit to protest. But it can not deny you the permit, and he can not effectively deny you the permit by making it costly.
So John sticks his nose in where he is ignorant. Define infringe, as applies to rights, big mouth
The first amendment does not say it “shall not be infringed”. It says “abridged”. different word. different meaning.
John Say
In fact, the Senate REJECTED the use of the word “infringed” in the House version of 1A.
So, please tell me how “filling out a form” infringes the right to keep and bear, but does not abridge the right of 1A, if no further action is taken in either case?
You should think it through sometimes.
in·fringed, in·fring·ing. to commit a breach or infraction of; violate or transgress: to infringe a copyright; to infringe a rule. Synonyms: break, disobey.
“Can you say NFA?”
Oh, and please dont say NFA around George. Or FFA, or GCA. These were all AFTER the communist manifesto and Crazy Abe threw the baby out with the bath water.
So regarding commerce, I gave George 2 Supreme Court decisions from before these universe altering events. In fact, from when the “framers” were still around. He didn’t like those either, so in return, he proffered ONE of the dictionary definitions of commerce (the second one, ironically).
I predict that, like a good little marxist, he will refuse to acknowledge that he was wrong about acquiring a gun (I didnt even bother to tell him you can also acquire a gun from someone giving it to you, like your father).
You see, any fanatical religious belief means you can NEVER be wrong, or the whole thing falls apart. New George, Gigi, Dennis all exhibit this behavior. And so does comrade Old George.
Yeah, that’s definitely not the case. I can go down to the bulletin board at my local country store and see ads for dozens of guns that I can meet up and pay cash, no paperwork in sight, all perfectly legal.
Correct
Not exactly.
Private sales are not regulated like those of FFLs.
And depending on what is being sold and you… you may not end up buying it.
Or the guy selling may say meet at a gun store so that they can run a 4473 check on you.
Oh yeah, you didn’t think about that.
My buddies and I, if/when we sell something… that $25.00 saves a lot of headaches… That’s the usual charge from your LGS or $50 if they don’t know you.
-G
Lighteredknot says: Has Dennis Mc not posted and sanitized Bump and eviscerated DT yet? Wash Post is just further indication and proof of the Dem Socialists and RINO haltered for DT. I would allege that the last resort coming from the haters will be an assassination attempt on DT. Just like Lee Harvey Oswald, the Deep State already have a scapegoat primed and their hands would remain snow white. In addition best be preparing for some terrorists chaos from those illegal aliens coming in through the South Border.
In addition best be preparing for some terrorists chaos from those illegal aliens coming in through the South Border.
Im more concerned with VietNam Vets in their 70s/80s with severe PTSD having access to WiFi and a keyboard.
Loco pa’ carajo!
Dennis has been here today, with the usual partisan lies/nonsense.
Hasn’t worked himself up enough yet to post as ‘Gigi’ though.
That’s for when the TDS is REALLY kicking in.
When the unlawful conviction against Donald Trump gets overturned, years from now, it will be proven that these spurious charges were blatant and unlawful election interference. Then Democrats will say, “It’s in the past. What difference will it make?” If Democrats succeed in stripping Trump of his Secret Service protection, in order to get him assassinated, they’ll just shrug their shoulders that their Democrat senile candidate then ran unopposed.
If this play leads to Donald Trump losing his lead in the polls and losing the election, it will become the permanent Democrat playbook. They will simply have popular Republican opponents arrested for crimes Democrats have committed, and gotten away with. They can’t win if they’re in prison.
They will have women ready with claims that a conservative nominee or candidate was seen standing next to some Solo cups, or they’ll start seeding their friends now with false stories to bank for future use in civil sex abuse cases. After all, it only takes an accuser to have told her friends her story, for that story to then be used as enough evidence to find someone culpable, and fine him millions of dollars.
@Karen
‘If Democrats succeed in stripping Trump of his Secret Service protection, in order to get him assassinated, they’ll just shrug their shoulders that their Democrat senile candidate then ran unopposed.’
I personally believe this is precisely what they are attempting to do. Make no mistake: the modern left are equal to the Nazi and Communist regimes of the past. Those ignorantly going along with them are every bit the equal of those going along with those regimes in the past. This cannot stand and it cannot be allowed to happen again.
When the unlawful conviction against Donald Trump gets overturned, years from now….
Karen, I’m just hoping to see the America I once knew still in existence in January 2025.
@Karen,
I suspect that if Trump gets any jail time… SCOTUS will step in, if not sooner.
Are you kidding? CJ John Roberts would rather see Trump in jail than back in the White House. He despises Trump.
Poor anon,
Roberts may not like Trump… but he loves the law.
You figure that one out because you know he’ll do the right thing. along w at least most of the other justices.
-G
It is always interesting to observe the mind reading of left wing nuts.
You presume that Roberts is hostile to Trump WHY ?
The NYC case has more holes than swiss cheese – I doubt it will get to SCOTUS, but if it does it will be dispatched quickly.
Why ? The law and constitution and violations of atleast 2/3 of the bill of rights.
ATS SCOTUS will kill this if it gets to them because the alternative is LOTS MORE lawfare by both parties.
As we Diddle about attaching each other, calling our political foes demeaning scoundrel names, Russia is staging War ships not 90 miles for our southern border in an overt manner. We have as our president, a weak feeble forgetful old man, who should NO more preside over America than any other demented citizen. Addressing anyone contemplating voting for President Joe Biden, I say: DON’T !!!
George W,
I read we have deployed a P-3 Orion plane to monitor the Russians. Yeah, that makes me feel wayyyy better!
Now, if there was a destroyer and a frigate shadowing them, that might be something.
There could be a US attack sub lurking around, but the point is a show of force. Even a B-52 or B-1 flying in the vicinity.
Upstate
Agreed but,
There are several subs there. The P3’s are just to “muddy the waters”. Those “targets” are ZERO threat. Their sailors would be shark bait before they could say:
Дву́м смертя́м не быва́ть, одно́й не минова́ть
Waters,
I get what you are saying. But what I am saying and I think George W was hinting towards was what is needed for not just the Russians, the whole world but Americans to see is a show of force.
Otherwise, again I think what George W was hinting at, Biden looks weak.
We can speculate there are subs there and have probably been shadowing the Russians as soon as they put to open sea. But surface combatants shadowing them would send a stronger message than what Biden has done, or not done.
Upstate
Of course, I understood that.
NOTHING Biden could do at this point would make him not look weak. And he wouldn’t do what you suggest because he doesn’t just LOOK weak.
After all, he told them “don’t”.
Also, I’m not speculating (wink).
Biden has ZERO operational input and very little actual knowledge of where our submarines are. His briefing is essentially “X” boats operationally ready, and “X” boats deployed. He has enough (mashed bananas) on his plate. (another wink)
@Upstate
And again, I do not think personally in relation to Biden that is an accident. The fact that Obama’s Iran deal was put back into place almost immediately upon Biden taking office is plenty telling regarding what is going on and who is making it happen. I suspect all of this is what Hillary would have done had she won in 2016, and thank goodness a monkey wrench was thrown into the gears or lord know where we’d be at this point, in 2024 after eight years of Obama era continuance. As bad as things are they could have been *so* much worse, and that is downright frightening.
There is no longer room sitting out the vote from a place of personal spite – we change this, this year, or never, IMO.
I’m afraid I must agree James. We have seen the playbook. If somehow the Dems win the House and Senate, and Biden is reelected, they WILL
Abolish the filibuster and then
Add 2 States with 4 Democrat Senators
Pack the Supreme court
Abolish the Electoral College by completing the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact
Assuring one party rule for a very long time, or until there is a violent uprising.
Only Joe Manchin stood in their way.
The odds of the dems winning ANY of the house the senate or the presidency in 2024 are zero.
There is a very short time between an SSBM opening its missile silo doors and launching – minutes at most.
Absolutely the sailors will die. But the missiles will launch.
I beleive the range of current Russian SLBM’s is 10000km that should cover the entire US from Cuba.
It is NOT 1962 anymore. It is not even 1989.
John Say
My Friend, frankly, almost every word you uttered is a crock of shit.
There is a very short time between an SSBM opening its missile silo doors and launching – minutes at most.
Really?? And how many SLBM’s have you launched, pray tell? How many minutes exactly? I know the answer, having launched three.
And how long does it take a Virginia Class Submarine to “snap shot” a Mk 48 torpedo (or one that a solution undoubtedly is already drawn on?), and how long would it take for it to reach its target from a range of 880 yards? Also, what preparations must that missile submarine make before it opens its silo doors? How does a Russian sub behave when it goes to battlestations missile? What tactics do they use? Any clue? How long from 2SQ to 1SQ? Hint—you won’t learn these things by watching crimson tide.
For that matter, what does the “M” in SSBM stand for? Just curious. Did u mean SSBN?
“missiles” will launch? Can a Russian sub now fire its missiles simultaneously?
By the way, the process for launching a submarine launched ballistic missile has NOT CHANGED since 1968.
All this to say, you don’t have a clue what you are talking about. Since there is no indication that the Russians have a “SSBM” in that task force, nor was that the topic of discussion, because that’s not even a realistic scenario.
As for range, they don’t need to be anywhere near Cuba to reach all of mainland US. Which is EXACTLY why they would NOT send one there with a task force, where it is vulnerable to discovery, surveillance, and instant attack.
—Waters (Capt, USN, retired. MMC SS/SW)
Putin has started a new strategy to counter NATO?USA supplying long range armament, and of recent, boots on the ground. Placing offensive weaponry in close proximally to The United States. In 1962 the President used the Second Fleet to establish a quarantine force. Where the Second Fleet is today is anyone’s guess?
They are in DEI training
Yep, the International Pride Regatta!
@Upstate….
If there is a sub shadowing them…
Leave to Biden’s WH to out them.
The key is run silent and out of sight.
I’m sure the Russians will try to find them.
If they can’t they’ll still suspect or know that there’s at least one sub there.
-G
In the event that Russia decides to act the time that US force would have to react to stop a SLBM would be a minute or two at the most.
WRONG AND IMMATERIAL
Aside from sinking them now, there is likely nothing that can be done to prevent a Russian Boomer near Cuba from launching.
Absent our being able to decode launch instructions from Moscow faster than the Russian Boomers, by the time we know they are launching it is too late.
During the Cold War there were two main issues that served as deterence – MASD, and the likelyhood that US Attack Subs would take out Soviet Boomers on the way through the IUK gap. But the latter relied on the fact that unlike US SSBMs those of the UUSR spent most of their time in ports in the arctic, and at that time did not have the range to reach the US from there.
John Say
I’m not going to say much else on the topic, because revealing the full extent of what you don’t know would be to tip toe on classified information.
But your scenario is COMLETELY and UTTERLY CRAP. The Russians don’t have a “SSBM” (Its SSBN) within 1000 km of Cuba. I already told you why that is so.
MASD, and the likelyhood that US Attack Subs would take out Soviet Boomers on the way through the IUK gap.
Ok, now you are cracking me up. Moisture Associated Skin Damage was our strategy??
When not in port, Soviet Subs preferred to hang out under the ice. Particularly once they learned of SOSUS.
So what? Putin is just giving us a taste of our own medicine. And quite frankly, if a rogue Russian nuclear sub captain (or an American nuclear sub captain, probably a trans female) went crazy and nuked NYC and Washington, by the year 2124, we would probably look back on her/him and build statues in xer honor.
As long as the nuclear fall out doesnt reach Richmond, I’m good with that.
Floyd
Not plausible, in the case of the US, unfortunately.
Although the Captain may now be able to change his/her gender, he cannot change the target package (sad face). In fact, he has no way of even knowing where a particular package is headed. It is all encoded. So even if he could override a whole mess of protocols and safeties, he would be shooting blind.
Tom Clancy disagrees with you, and remember, he taught Jim Ryan everything he knew!
LOL and Jon Say has been studying Clancy diligently, I see!
The audience that still reads the WaPo (and NYT, Politico, ABC, NBC, NPR, PBS, CNN, MSNBC, etc) as something other than Propaganda Press for the Democrat party, is Democrats.
So they are all the dumber for it.
Do “mis and dis” informed Democrats know they are being lied to? Like if a tree falls in the forest?
What everybody misses is that Democrats MUST lie to themselves. They are like the Millerites, back in the 1850s, who thought the world would end, and went and sold everything, and gathered for the Rapture – and the Rapture did not happen. What to do, now??? Admit that you were an idiot??? Well, some did, and others didn’t. Because they just could not admit it.
Same with Democrats. I hear them constantly praising themselves for passing Social Security back in 1933, whenever. Geeesh, that was nearly 100 years ago. What have they done lately? Ruined the Big Blue Cities, filled up the country with illegals, derailed the Civil Rights Movement, dumbed down education, and castrated kids. For starters.
Imagine what would happen to their psyches if the MSM started telling them the truth, and quit covering up the Democrats’ evil and insanity. They currently go apesh!t if even one person steps away from the narrative. Imagine how they would react if WAPO quit lying for them. Gee, they wet nutso when Musk bought Twitter. Why do you think they hate FOXNews? Because if the “FOX” people are right, that means Democrats are stupid, wrong and evil. Do you realize that most newspapers now do not show photos of criminals? Because that would make it harder for Democrats to pretend whites are bad, and blacks are good.
Democrats need lies, like vampires need blood.
Floyd is alive!!! I was concerned about you, old man. Glad you’re still with us.
Thanks! I was NOT doing well for a while. Felt like crap, and could hardly sleep for the pain and discomfort. BUT —
Glad you are feeling better.
But you have been here all along in the mind of Peter Shill/turdrunner
Yes, I know. I was reading here, but was too difficult to type. I am thinking about sub-leasing the space I have inside his head to a TRUMP PAC.
Although I must admit to a sock puppet here and there in the past. . . 🙂
Guilty!
But that dude is insane. I don’t know what y’all did to him, but wowsa!!
I understand, Floyd. You have told us about your health issues and these crossed my mind given your absence.
FWIW, we all have health concerns. Despite my gym dedication since high school and impeccable diet, I was taken to the Emergency Dept recently with symptoms consistent with a stroke. After a thorough workup by various physicians, we all agreed I had Bell’s Palsy and not a stroke. So other than drooling, slurring my words, loss in my right eye, partial loss @ left eye, and other BP symptoms, i’m still alive and kicking. Lost 10 lbs and my 6 pack abs is showing! Getting better slowly.
to health!
All needling aside, here’s to your health
“Needling”….yes, best to stay away from injecting anymore “experimental” therapeutics the authorities fraudulently call a “vaccine.” They are harming people. Period.
https://x.com/DrDMartinWorld/status/1799185938179899768
VINDICATION: CoV Bioweapon Injections WERE NOT VACCINES and the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals just concurred! NO MORE mRNA mandates:
“Addressing the merits, the panel held that the district court misapplied the Supreme Court’s decision in Jacobson v. Massachusetts, 197 U.S. 11 (1905), in concluding that the Policy survived rational basis review. Jacobson held that mandatory vaccinations were rationally related to preventing the spread of smallpox. Here, however, plaintiffs allege that the vaccine does not effectively prevent spread but only mitigates symptoms for the recipient and therefore is akin to a medical treatment, not a “traditional” vaccine. Taking plaintiffs’ allegations as true at this stage of litigation, plaintiffs plausibly alleged that the COVID-19 vaccine does not effectively “prevent the spread” of COVID-19. Thus, Jacobson does not apply.”
Known and documented Covid jab “side effects”….
Assume you have taken all the CDC “recommended” jabs?
Not good.
Amen to health! I had some kind of issue last week, where my heart was palpitating, I was short of breath, could hardly eat anything without getting a full feeling, my hand began hurting worse, and I had lower and then upper back pain, so bad that I had problems sleeping more than an hour or two in a row. Back still hurts. Home health nurse came by today, and no lung problems, heart sounded good, and pulse was fine.
I had been watching TV, and there was an ad for some new medicine, for something called ATT-CRM, which was every symptom I was having. But, my legs were not swollen, and my blood pressure was not dropping when I stood up. But they say that ATT-CRM is way under-diagnosed, so if anybody else is having those kinds of problems, they may want to check into it.
There were many intelligent, competent Democrats who could have become the Democrat presidential candidate. I still wouldn’t agree with their policies, but at least they would be mentally competent. Joe Biden doesn’t know where he is, or why one shouldn’t bring guests to the White House pool in the middle of winter, so he is not responsible for running for re-election. It’s Joe Biden’s handlers who are at fault. Clearly, the person or people who are really running the Executive Branch of the United States, quite like having a doddering puppet in cognitive free fall, so that unelected people can run the White House and executive policy. They wouldn’t have such freedom with literally any other Democrat president, except for possibly Kamala Harris.
Somehow, this cabal had enough political clout, that the DNC ludicrously shut out other Democrat contenders, promoting Joe Biden’s bid for reelection.
Karen S,
I think there are a number of people not only in the Biden admin but the DNC who need Biden to win, to keep their jobs, stay in power, and continue to advance their agenda.
Come November, we will put a stop to them.
@Karen @Upstate
Yup. This is about the consolidation of power, and that’s it. Even a new *dem* candidate would be too much of a wild card at this point, and they are not going to take that chance, so look for the malevolence (and that is what it is) to be aimed squarely at any and all opposition.
Karen, I think that the Democrats have crossed the Rubicon, and the only good Democrat is an ex-Democrat.
I am not a staunch conservative on some issues, so I agree with some of their policies, here and there. BUT, when a political party embraces the castration of young boys, and cutting off the breasts of young girls, then that party has devolved into a Joseph Mengele level of evil, and anyone who votes for them or supports them is nothing but scum to me. Evil, slimy scum – the lot of them!
Gigi is scum. DeMac is scum. Fishwings is scum. Bad George is scum. Anyone who supports the sexual mutilation of children is scum, pure and simple.
Satanic, evil, UN-American, lawless criminal psychopathic scum is another way to describe today’s Democrat party.
Any dime that Joe Biden spent on colluding with former intelligence officials, as well as the media, in order to bury the Hunter Biden laptop and its evidence about Joe Biden’s corruption, that was not entered as campaign contributions, should lead to charges brought against him immediately, with the venue being Florida. The jury should be comprised of Trump supporters, in a deeply Republican district, in order to apply the exact same standard that Donald Trump has had to face.
Oh, My!
Undisclosed Campaign Contributions!
More Biden Felonies!
Hear, hear!
Biden does not have to pay these Intel guys.
Merely paying campaign staff to contact SM and talk them into killing the story meets Braggs definition of criminal election interference.
Its “Hush Money”
And the Media going along with Biden’s request to kill the Hunter Biden story meets Bragg’s definition of criminal election interference.