Robert Hur Emerges as the Clear Winner in the Presidential Debate

The presidential debate last night was chilling to watch as President Joe Biden clearly struggled to retain his focus and, at points, seemed hopelessly confused. The winner was clear: Special Counsel Robert Hur. For months, Democrats in Congress and the media have attacked Hur for his report that the president came across as an “elderly man with a poor memory.” Hur concluded that prosecuting Biden would be difficult because a jury would view him as a sympathetic figure of a man with declining mental capabilities. That was evident last night and the question is whether a man who was too diminished to be a criminal defendant can still be a president for four more years.

Hur laid out evidence that President Biden had unlawfully retained and mishandled classified evidence for decades. However, he also concluded that “at trial, Mr. Biden would likely present himself to a jury, as he did during our interview of him, as a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory.” He found that “it would be difficult to convince a jury that they should convict him—by then a former president well into his eighties—of a serious felony that requires a mental state of willfulness.”

What has followed is the usual pile-on in the media with legal analysts, press, and pundits denouncing Hur for his findings.

Hur likely does not anticipate any apologies even as commentators on CNN and MSNBC admit that there are now unavoidable questions of Biden’s ability to be the nominee.

Democrats have repeatedly insisted that Hur did not find Biden diminished and that he actually was impressed by his memory and mental acuity. Hur contradicted that in his own testimony before Congress.

Indeed, the denial campaign took on a bizarre character, particularly when Rep. Pramila Jayapal (D., Wash.) insisted that Hur “exonerated” Biden. Hur pushed back:“I need to go back and make sure that I take note of a word that you used, ‘exoneration.’ That is not a word that is used in my report and that is not a part of my task as a prosecutor.”

Jayapal shot back, “You exonerated him.”

Hur responded, “I did not exonerate him. That word does not appear in the report.”

The debate also further undermines the ridiculous effort of the Biden Administration to continue to withhold the audiotape of the Hur interview as privileged (despite saying that the transcript is not privileged).

The debate showed not only what Hur saw but why the Justice Department is making a clearly laughable privilege claim to delay any release of the audiotape until after the election.

449 thoughts on “Robert Hur Emerges as the Clear Winner in the Presidential Debate”

  1. Did anyone get a word count on how many times Biden said “the idea” last night?

  2. @mrddmia

    “Jill knows Joe took inappropriate showers with their daughter.

    Jill knows they abandoned their own granddaughter.

    Jill knows their extended family took tens of millions from our worst enemies.

    Jill knows Joe isn’t mentally fit to serve.

    Jill is the problem.

    She’s evil.”

    ____________________

    Yes, she is.

    1. At the end of the debate Jill went over to Joe, hugged him, then helped him as he SLOWLY stepped down the ONE step (holding onto him like his nursemaid) and then guided him over to thank their media friends, Jake and Dana, for doing their “job” (ie, protecting old Joe as much as humanly possible in front of world-wide audience)

      1. But he is a 6, no wait, 8 handicap. Which was it?

        He’s a handicap alright.

        1. If joeblo tried to swing a golf club it would fall from his hands and he would fall over.
          He has a chance for a 3 inch drive if his weakened leg or foot accidentally knocks the golf ball off the tee as he face plants in the dirt.

    2. She is all those things. But she isn’t the Soviet Democrat party and Bolshevik Barack who pushed and pimped for him to be president. THEY control who runs for president for their party.

      They knew all those things about Biden, as well as the fact that all the corrupt millions he lined his pockets with while Obama’s VP (and supposedly Obama had no idea of) weren’t preventing his descent into dementia while putting him forward. They didn’t care: he was the anti-Trump that could compete in that role – not by offering competing policies.

      The Soviet Democrats and their ideological leaders like Bolshevik Barack are the problem. The execrable “Dr. Jill” is just the greedy and willing enabler.

  3. Rebecca Solnit hit the nail on the head with this statement in her opinion piece…

    “Throughout the excruciating evening, Joe Biden in a hoarse voice said diligent things that were reasonably true and definitely sincere; Donald Trump in a booming voice said lurid things that were flamboyantly untrue. The grim spectacle was a reminder that this is a style over substance game.”

    1. Is “reasonably” true good enough for you? Even CNN is listing Biden’s lies from the debate. I can only assume that you are a low information voter who doesn’t recognize a lie when you hear one.

      1. No it’s not good enough for me. Did I say it was? NO. Don’t put words in my mouth.
        We had two old men on stage. One was an incessant lier that with a stern look told lie after lie after lie. the other stumbled over words trying to set the record straight and failed 90% of the time.

        1. the other stumbled over words trying to set the record straight and failed 90% of the time, and also lied time and time again

          Fixed that for ya

        2. Every word out of Biden’s mouth was a bold-faced lie. Your capacity for self-deception is high.

        3. the other stumbled over words trying to set the record straight and failed 90% of the time.

          The lying cowardly Anonymous Soviet Democrat Birthing Person cultists who lie by infrerence that Bribery Biden doesn’t lie more often than he tells the truth.

          This feckless Anonymous Soviet Democrat coward from the Bribery Biden cult demands that we don’t believe our lying eyes.

          The Big Guy wasn’t lying every single time he repeatedly said he never knew any of his families customers from adversarial nations nor met or spoke with any of them while in the Vice President’s office.

          The Big Guy wasn’t lying when he said none of his generals warned him to leave a security force in Afghanistan when he deserted Americans and our allies leaving Afghanistan in time for a 9/11 anniversary photo op.

          Need a more complete and thorough list of substantive lies from your Soviet Democrat police state fascist cult leader?

    2. “said diligent things that were reasonably true”

      Did she take that line from Animal Farm or 1984?

      I wouldn’t read that skanks horse shit with YOUR eyes.

      You find it reasonable that “Many young women” are being raped by their sisters?

      You find it reasonable that Biden can pay off $8T with $500B, AND with money left over?

      The Guardian LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO Thanks for re-verifying where they stand.

      What a douche. Take that nonsense back to the bath houses, SFB.

    3. ATS
      Given that you and others have been lying about dementia joe for the past 4 yrs
      Not to mention the collusion delusion
      Spying on trump
      The hunter Biden laptop

      And so so so many other things

      Why should anyone believe you
      about Trump
      About the 2020 election
      About Jan 6

      About anything?

      Falsus in unum
      Falsus in omnibus

      Last night was not about Joe Biden

      It was all those lying to us about Biden exposed as fools and liars

      1. John,
        “It was all those lying to us about Biden exposed as fools and liars”
        That right there.

        How in the world did they think they would be able to make him look . . . not like the disaster we saw last night, after a week worth of prepping?
        That is the reason why I question if there is someone really in charge, or are they, as I mentioned before, ‘faking it, till they make it!’ and just pinballing from one disaster to the next.

        1. @Upstate

          Just my opinion, but I don’t think anyone is pinballing at all – oh, no, it is all very intentional. Much easier for bad actors to seize control of a disasters, and it’s much easier with a ‘real’ disaster than a gaslit one (such as earth changes that can be sanely and incrementally addressed vs. far off and nebulous, future, climate ’emergencies’ contrived by predictive software that call for the absolute revocation of freedoms NOW, rather than anecdotal data paired with current circumstances that call for the former) even if the ‘real disasters’ (economic, legal, geopolitical, etc.) were orchestrated through intentionally crippling and destructive policy. Modern dems, particularly since but limited to the Obama years, LOVE to manufacture crisis so they can present themselves to humanity as saviors. 🙄

          Thank goodness our SCOTUS still has some scruples, bipartisan ones at that, and the dems have never been allowed to pack the courts with more of their minions. Still, that can’t be the way forward – we need every branch to be functional again, even if only at *functional levels* that transcend hyperbole, drama, and propaganda. Our checks and balances must be maintained, and our Constitution, its amendments, and our Bill of Rights must be the final word and defended at any cost.

    4. Rebecca Solnit hit the nail on the head with this statement in her opinion piece…

      And another cowardly Anonymous Soviet Democrat Birthing Person cosplays as Biden’s White House Spokes Liar, Cringe Jean-Pierre: “Please don’t believe your lying eyes”

      Clearly this morning, that is no longer working.

  4. Looking forward to Dennis McIntyre showing up to bring us the latest on Melania.

  5. My two biggest takeaways are 1) who is running the country and 2) anyone that has stated that Boden is sharp as a tack should be unelectable going forward. This is traitorous to our country and it should eliminate them from polite political society.

    If Buttigieg, Harris, Raimondo or Newsome end up being the nominee, or if they are in a scrum to become the nominee they need to be asked every day how it is that they said that Biden was sharp? Buttigieg said that Biden runs meetings that are so complex that he needs top prep for Biden’s in depth and sophisticated questions. Hey Pete, why did you lie to the nation about our chief executive having dementia?

    1. I believe Butt-Egg about needing to prepare for Biden’s “complex” meetings. He seems like a refugee wannabe from the ruling class in Idiocracy, and I think he has the IQ of a stunted turnip. You aren’t seriously suggesting that the Demons would nominate him? Their only hope in that case imo would be for Trump (hardly a genius himself) to choke to death laughing at the prospect of running against him.

  6. Hur certainly was vindicated last night on his conclusion, but at this point, he might be the one person with the most to lose if the audio/video recording of his interview was released. His report told a story, but it did not tell the story. To characterize Biden simply as an elderly man with a poor memory, is a gross act of negligence. As an officer of the court, doesn’t he have a duty to report suspected elder abuse? Doesn’t he have a duty to request a mental competency evaluation? Instead, he wrote a report about interview with an individual who’s dementia made him unfit for prosecution, but competent to be president. That doesn’t square and he should answer for it.

    1. OLLY,
      It is not just Hur.
      It is everyone from his own wife, press secretary, aides, secret service, Democrats and Republicans who could see it in meetings (the WSJ did run a story, in which all our leftists friends had a tizzy about), especially MSM.
      Releasing the tapes now, would only prove what we saw last night, but was known by Hur months ago.
      And what we all knew since 2020.

      1. Certainly, the DOJ has proven itself to be jurisprudentially creative, sufficient to charge Hur with the aforementioned negligence, dereliction, malfeasance, and conspiracy to obstruct prosecution that is indicated, merited, and legally required.

  7. For a group that does not believe in God, does not believe in moral absolutes, rejects the Ten Commandments and their being publicly displayed in schools and public squares, the Left / DNC / MSM do have one commandment that they wield like a sword: Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor or in other words, you’re lying!. It’s just that they reject their having to abide by it.

    Bari Weiss is not wrong to go for the jugular.

    Bari Weiss
    @bariweiss
    Rarely are so many lies dispelled in a single moment. Rarely are so many people exposed as liars and sycophants. Last night’s debate was a watershed on both counts.

    https://x.com/bariweiss/status/1806699916477300778

    Bari Weiss: They Knew

    Biden is no longer fit to be president. Last night’s debate exposed the lies we’ve been told.

    The debate…was a catastrophe for an entire class of experts, journalists, and pundits, who have, since 2020, insisted that Biden was sharp as a tack, on top of his game, basically doing handstands while peppering his staff with tough questions”

    https://www.thefp.com/p/bari-weiss-president-biden-debate-june-27

    1. Estovir,
      Bari and The Free Press are why I am a paying subscriber.

    2. Why does anyone believe people who have been lying to us about so much for so long ?

      I did not find Bidens performance last night different than expected
      I did not see it as this massive fail
      Were he was drooling and incoherent
      – which was inside the realm of possible

      It was just a slightly better than normal Biden performance

      But then I am not among the loons trying to pretend it is some right wing conspiracy thee as t Biden is incompetent

      He was failing in 2020
      He is worse now

      People in cognitive decline do not improve

      But then again Biden has never been competent

      Since 2020 he has had a medical excuse for incompetence

      If anything Barri Weiss does not chastise the large body of the media the left democrats who have been deluding themselves and others for years

      The people proven wrong last night
      Are the same ones who have been wrong about most everything for 2 decades

  8. In the live polling last night, democrats gave Biden a “C” on his “we beat medicare” ramble.

    That tells us what we can expect from our lefty friends here today.

    1. “It’s the [Obongo], stupid!”

      – James Carville
      ___________________

      The Biden administration is the Obama administration carried over.

  9. Kudos to the CNN team that showed how even the most biased news people can be honest for a short while, at least. Trump was masterful last night and could have torpedoed Biden several times but refrained from doing so. Trump could have compared his treatment with that of Biden described by Hur but Trump let it slide, perhaps knowing that the public would be more believing of their own eyes and ears than what some prosecutor said in a report they probably will never read. That was brilliant and probably won Trump some Democrats and a lot of Independents. Almost everyone knows someone or has a family member in the same shape as Biden and understands that they are sick and should not be ridiculed or belittled for their loss of memory. Biden’s political career ended last night about 20 seconds into the debate. As they say on Bad Boyz, you can go easily or you can go tough….it’s up to you. And Hur doesn’t need an apology; he was totally vindicated last night.

    1. iicsaid: “Kudos to the CNN team that showed how even the most biased news people can be honest for a short while, at least.”

      If you are talking about the CNN moderators, my understanding is that the debate rules forbid the debate moderators from fact-checking candidates’ answers, so that left them with very little they could do to damage Trump’s performance, and he was disciplined enough (somewhat to my surprise, actually) not to go flying off on wild tangental attacks. So, I give Trump some credit there, but none to CNN. As far as commentary from other CNN talking heads, what were they going to do, contradict in real time what the audience was witnessing? The only viewers who would buy that have already deliberately blinded and stupified themselves with TDS, and would support Biden for President even were he clinically dead on a respirator. So, they had nothing to gain there. Again, no credit to CNN for a tiny bit belated and meager lip service to the real world.

  10. One positive from the debate
    for the Dems is they can say
    “See, he wasn’t on cocaine.”

  11. President Biden was clearly defeated in last nights debate. However, President Trump could have knocked him out cold had he stuck to numeric statistics as opposed to superlatives.

    Groceries up 20%, fuel up 90%, home insurance up 60%, cost of a home up 100%, cost of rent up 35%. Then, clearly state his mission, goals and objectives.

    The overwhelming of our schools and medical system by the flood of people entering our country by the millions is on the minds of citizens. Why would a non citizen get health coverage at the expense of a citizen. I work in the medical arena and we have an acute shortage of doctors and healthcare professionals. Wait times are sometimes months.

    Let the Biden administration’s view on crime and the war against small businesses and institutions speak for itself. Look at the predators circling weaker countries, testing the waters because they have lost fear of this nation.

    We are in deep trouble and it will not be a single man who can fix the problems, but expelling the current President or any candidate of his beliefs out will slow down the damage.

    If this nation humbled itself and earnestly sought the grace and direction of our Creator, things would change for the better. Until we do that, this is the quality of leadership (or a lack thereof) that we will get.

    1. @EM
      Trump does superlatives not facts and numbers which BTW he’ll get attacked for using them…

      Trump also doesn’t want Biden KO’d.
      Had he done that… Biden would have been forced to drop out.
      Instead he’ll continue to run.

      Trump wants Biden to get the official nod and will KO him after the DNC convention.

      -G

  12. Dear Mr. Turley, greatly appreciate the thoughts of Anonymous at 9:38 and again at 10:37, and to my most favorite: GEB. It was a terrible idea to have Mr. Biden “debate” Mr. Trump. It simply showed to the entire world that we have become a laughingstock. One party pursuing the leader of the other through the courts, misquoting him on a regular basis, attacking his family and on and on. Only one person showed up at the debate last night, who is ready to lead, because he sees the greatness of our country diminished, and believes in us: Mr. Trump. I will be voting for him, again!

    1. Anonymous 11:01AM
      Appreciate the thought. It was a watershed and has exposed the whole infrastructure of deceit that is D.C. I still am hopeful for our country but we are in a delicate time. If the WH has any competence, they would put the military on high alert, close the borders and start dialing up the DEFCON status.

  13. I keep thinking what I might be like when I get to be Biden’s age–(I’ve had quite a few orthopedic traumas/injuries from an active lifestyle, -the same goes for many of us as we get older)…. So I make NO fun of him in that regard (his PHYSICAL decline) and I intend no disrespect. After all, FDR was in a wheelchair, and Texas Governor Abbott appears to be on top of things.

    NOTWITHSTANDING, and that being said, I cannot help but think of the old Carol Burnett show reruns, and how funny Tim Conway was, with his Einstein wig, shuffling across the floor…

  14. If the DNC is really serious about getting Biden off the ticket, the audio tape of his interview with Robert Hur will be released quickly. If not, it will be buried in Merrick Garland’s desk under some Twinkies…..

    1. @Skyraider,

      That’s actually a good point.
      But its too late.

      Will the DNC suddenly demand a cognitive test from a board certified neurologist? (The specialist who can make the appropriate diagnosis.)
      Will the Neurologist sign off on him being incapacitated to the point he is no longer fit to serve? This will raise other questions and will blow up in the DNC’s face.

      There’s not much that they can do.
      There is no plan B.
      They burned Kennedy.
      Newsom, Clinton, El Fatzo (Pritzker) all trying to get the nod.
      Or Kamel Toe stepping up. (Remember she’s worse than Biden which is why he picked her. )

      Trump will win. They can’t stop it.

      -G

  15. Yes, transcript and audio probably don’t match. They can doctor the audio, too. Why not.

  16. What matters is the mind. Joe Biden can have helpers just like Stephen Hawking had helpers.

    1. What matters is the mind. Joe Biden can have helpers just like Stephen Hawking had helpers.

      Stephen Hawking’s physical helpers weren’t substituting their ideological fantasies and police state fascism for Hawking’s thought processes.

      Like Bribery Biden’s helpers are substituting the Soviet style police state fascist Marxist fantasies of Obama as being from Biden, to deliver Obama phoning in his Third Term, and now hoping for a Fourth Term.

      We’re supposed to believe the demented, unfocused, lost, angry, but still very corrupt fool put on the stage last night, that we’ve been watching be pretty much the same the last four years is the mind that is directing the policies and decisions of the last four years.

      We aren’t supposed to believe our lying eyes at all the key people Obama had in his administration back to play key roles again in Obama’s Third Term – like Susan Rice. Like Lisa Monaco back at the DoJ, who worked with Jack Smith in the Obama DoJ when he took out the Republican who scared them the most as the GOP nominee, Governor McDonnell. And now Lisa Monaco has him back to do a repeat of what he did to Governor McDonnell in 2012 to Trump in 2024. Exact same tactics as he employed against McDonnell, repeated now in his Lavarentiy Beria style prosecution of Trump as he did McDonnell a decade earlier.

      No, we’re supposed to believe the last three and a half years is all the mind of The Big Guy. Not a repeat of the “fundamentally change America” Obama ideology and police state fascism that they were using for YEARS before Trump ran for office and that they then used as an excuse.

  17. “the question is whether a man who was too diminished to be a criminal defendant can still be a president for four more years.”

    If that is actually a question, it must be regarded as entirely rhetorical. The answer is “No!”. That would be true even if the nation was on a relatively even keel. But with our economy, the debt, our essential liberties, and foreign policy all in the proverbial tank simultaneously, it could not be any more clear than it is. Emphatically, obviously, absolutely not! Buh-bye, Brandon! Don’t let the door hit you in your numb old ass on the way out!

  18. Hur was playing to the forces that pushed for him. Not that his observations were wrong, but that’s not why he didn’t indict him. That came down to mens rea or lack thereof.

    As far as the disaster debate, bright side is it forces D’s to promote their admistration potential over what trump will promote with his project 2025 bs. In other words, hiring people like you Turls.

    The other option is to go with Harris, something I’ve said here and other places for a couple of years. Biden should’ve switched places with Kamala on the ticket and begin to go to war with the type of racists and misogynist that frequent this place. Two. Years. Ago. He should’ve realized his political future was to to be the D equivalent of Cheney, but his ego got in the way.

    Regardless, trump can’t be in the oval office again. Full stop. Take away his immunity and put him in jail for his crimes. That’s where he deserves to be.

    1. Whaaaat? Don’t let your Trump hate cloud your judgment. Political prosecutions are not something our country should be doing. Are you in favor of assassinations too?

      1. No on assassinations for me. But there are those in intelligence and/or the military not in agreement with me on that point. Might as well put an active crackhead in office than trump.

        Just let trump’s trials take place and put it to the jury(s).

        1. Dream on bro!

          Trump is in!!

          I bet it sux to be you this morning, even more than usual.

          1. At one point in time I would concur on that. But remember, a rapist who openly admitted to grabbing pussy on tape survived that situation. Mostly because the word at the time was he’d surround himself with ‘the best people’ to counterbalance his political cluelessness. Anything’s possible. Specially since trump reinforced his pathological lying. Kamala wins in november.

            1. “Kamala wins in november.”

              Now we know you’re just punking us.

              Nice try, dipshit.

            2. But remember, a rapist who openly admitted to grabbing pussy on tape survived that situation.

              Remember that Soviet Democrats follow the rule of The Big Guy: “If you ain’t lyin’, you aren’t really trying”. So they lie that Trump admitted on tape to grabbing pussies, when he said they allow you to grab their pussies”.

              We might think these Soviet Democrats are concerned about rapists. Except they’re Lyin’ Like Proud Bidens to support President Pedo, whose daughter wrote in her dairy he was into Daddy-Daughter Inappropriate Showers balling his daughter.

              Supporting The Big Guy who had an intern come forward – unlike E. Jean Carroll – with specific memories and SEVEN contemporaneous witnesses from the day of the rape, to testify that then Senator Biden raped her when she was a young intern working for him. They did a Clinton style number on her for coming forward… had to take their pink pussy hats off first, of course.

              And of course, to continue the channeling by claiming it is Trump that is the pathological liar. Not Bribery Biden, the Pedo In Chief, who claimed he knows nothing of his families customers from Communist China, Putin, etc and never once met with them or spoke with them from the Vice President’s office.

              The Big Guy who still insists his generals never warned him to leave a caretaker force in Afghanistan when he deserted thousands of Americans and our allies to the hajji terrorist Taliban.

              Former VP Biden, Bolshevik Barack’s foreign policy expert, who deserted Americans to be killed by Al-Queda terrorists in Benghazi, and then told Americans it wasn’t a terrorist 9/11 attack – it was just a protest about an offensive YouTube video gone wrong! (Everybody goes to a protest with an 81mm mortar tube, base plate, bipod, and aiming stakes – plus the rounds)

              Bribery Biden, who for almost four years has lied to us and sent apparatchiks like Anonymous cowards to lie that the southern border is secure.

              Bribery Biden, who tells us he was a university professor teaching constitutional law for six years – and that he graduated at the top of his class with two different degrees, on a full pull scholarship.

              Yet another version of Soviet Democrats and their cowardly Anonymous apparatchik liars pleading with normal Americans: “Don’t believe your lying eyes”.

        2. A cowardly Anonymous Soviet Democrat said:
          No on assassinations for me. Might as well put an active crackhead like Hunter Biden in office than trump. Just let our trump Laverentiy Beria style Soviet political show trials take place and put it to the jury(s)

          Just as you did with Jack Smith’s previous prosecution of the GOP candidate you feared most to beat Obama/Biden’s reelection bid a decade earlier.

          And if those convictions by Jack Smith and other Lavarentiy Beria type prosecutors get overthrown by SCOTUS in unanimous decisions AFTER Bribery Biden gets reelected as Jack Smith’s was after the 2012 election – no harm, no foul, right?

          These are the Soviet Democrats who channel what they’ve been doing since long before Trump announced his run for office, claiming Trump is “a threat to democracy” because he might do to them what they’ve done to him and numerous others.

    2. What crimes?
      Look at Joe Biden’s bribery shakedown racket if you want to see a criminal.

    3. I think everything you just wrote is unwise, but you’re obviously intelligent and don’t rely on vitriol and filth to make your point. Kudos for this comment!

      1. Fvck you “Quinn”. You dont think we know you’re bug complementing bug?

        What a douche

    4. Seriously? Harris has been as unpopular and unelectable all along as Biden just made himself. Demons need a new candidate, and I don’t think they have one. My question now is to what lengths they will go to prevent and/or sabotage a Trump presidency. I don’t think there is much that is too extreme for them to contemplate, no matter what the cost to the people of this nation.

      1. Lets not forget the sabotage that Obama’s little fvcks left behind.
        It will be worse this time. There is no one there to constrain them.

    5. Poor Anon.
      No Mens Rea is not required under the espionage act.

      Hur pulled Comey. He had to figure out a reason not to indict Biden even though he was guilty as sin.

      As Turley points out, Hur’s unwillingness to charge Biden works in Trump’s favor.
      Not that Biden wasn’t guilty but that the case would be unwinnable regardless of facts.

      Harris also has a lower approval rating than Biden.
      This is why he chose her. She ticked the boxes and would provide job security because she would be worse.
      Impeach Biden meant you would have to impeach Kamel Toe at the same time.

      BTW your TDS is showing.

      -G

      1. G, I respectfully disagree. Mens rea is required. Hence the word willful. But we can just agree to disagree on that.

        But come on, we’re talking about ESPIONAGE here?

        Do we really think that Biden or Hillary were engaged in espionage? THAT is the red herring.

        Hur (Garland) and Comey played this game that way for that very reason. And it has worked.

        They SHOULD have been investigated and CHARGED and CONVICTED under 18 USC 1924.

        18USC1924 does NOT require a willful intent to break the law. It only requires a knowledge of the requirements for handling and storage, and an intent to store the documents in an unauthorized location. The proof of intent is in the act itself. And in their admissions that they did it. It also doesn’t matter WHY they did it. Biden KNEW he took classified info with him. Hillary KNEW she transmitted classified info. That is the ONLY element required.

        It is a felony, punishable by up to 5 years in prison.

        (a)Whoever, being an officer, employee, contractor, or consultant of the United States, and, by virtue of his office, employment, position, or contract, becomes possessed of documents or materials containing classified information of the United States, knowingly removes such documents or materials without authority and with the intent to retain such documents or materials at an unauthorized location shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than five years, or both.

    6. You should pull your head out. Trump is the ONLY one who can fix the disaster.

      1. I’m not 100% convinced that Trump can fix very much. I am convinced that we cannot go on like we have been for any longer than is absolutely necessary, let alone for another 4 years, and, at this juncture, Trump seems to be our only viable shot at turning things around. Reason #1 for my skepticism is that, should he be elected and confirmed, the Demons will poison the well for his incoming administration in any and every possible way. Reason #2 is the man’s nature. Trump showed a penchant for nominating, and listening to, fawning deep state a-holes during his first go-around. Now, possibly he learned a lesson from that: uncertain, but possible. But at the end of the day, I very much doubt that he can completely curb his narcissistic nature, which means that he will remain very vulnerable to being played by those around him who have less than stellar intentions, even if has learned enough that those hypocrites will need to adopt different tactics than previously used. I would very much like to be proven wrong about those suspicions.

  19. A 75 year old woman was sentenced for praying in front of an abortion clinic. Her mistake was she should have had Robert Hur investigating her case.

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