Robert Hur Emerges as the Clear Winner in the Presidential Debate

The presidential debate last night was chilling to watch as President Joe Biden clearly struggled to retain his focus and, at points, seemed hopelessly confused. The winner was clear: Special Counsel Robert Hur. For months, Democrats in Congress and the media have attacked Hur for his report that the president came across as an “elderly man with a poor memory.” Hur concluded that prosecuting Biden would be difficult because a jury would view him as a sympathetic figure of a man with declining mental capabilities. That was evident last night and the question is whether a man who was too diminished to be a criminal defendant can still be a president for four more years.

Hur laid out evidence that President Biden had unlawfully retained and mishandled classified evidence for decades. However, he also concluded that “at trial, Mr. Biden would likely present himself to a jury, as he did during our interview of him, as a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory.” He found that “it would be difficult to convince a jury that they should convict him—by then a former president well into his eighties—of a serious felony that requires a mental state of willfulness.”

What has followed is the usual pile-on in the media with legal analysts, press, and pundits denouncing Hur for his findings.

Hur likely does not anticipate any apologies even as commentators on CNN and MSNBC admit that there are now unavoidable questions of Biden’s ability to be the nominee.

Democrats have repeatedly insisted that Hur did not find Biden diminished and that he actually was impressed by his memory and mental acuity. Hur contradicted that in his own testimony before Congress.

Indeed, the denial campaign took on a bizarre character, particularly when Rep. Pramila Jayapal (D., Wash.) insisted that Hur “exonerated” Biden. Hur pushed back:“I need to go back and make sure that I take note of a word that you used, ‘exoneration.’ That is not a word that is used in my report and that is not a part of my task as a prosecutor.”

Jayapal shot back, “You exonerated him.”

Hur responded, “I did not exonerate him. That word does not appear in the report.”

The debate also further undermines the ridiculous effort of the Biden Administration to continue to withhold the audiotape of the Hur interview as privileged (despite saying that the transcript is not privileged).

The debate showed not only what Hur saw but why the Justice Department is making a clearly laughable privilege claim to delay any release of the audiotape until after the election.

449 thoughts on “Robert Hur Emerges as the Clear Winner in the Presidential Debate”

  1. Alvin Bragg, Michael Colangelo, Merrick Garland et al. must be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law for partial, political, and malicious prosecution under color of law, corruption, and conspiracy.

  2. Did you hear. Not one Democratic talking head is talking about or joyously waiting for the second Presidential debate scheduled for September. Hmmm wonder why.

  3. It’s hard to fathom that many just now awakened by Biden’s performance as that of an addled confused and demented senior. This IS Joe Biden since his days in the basement of 2020, many of us new this even then. The DNC Obamaites have been covering it up lying to their constituents for years. Biden is a figurehead and nothing more, Obama has been running the show with his same group of grifting communists from behind the curtain. It’s all falling apart now, free men will not bend to their rules. They will not be able to steal another election, it will not stand. Return to lawful order and prosecute those that are guilty, those that have deceived our nation.

    1. Traveler is Floyd TurdWaters Estovir.

      Traveler is Waters’ back-up.

      1. REGARDING ABOVE:

        Peter Shill / Gigi / Svelaz / etc desperate plea:

  4. Although last night’s debate vindicated Hur, and illustrated the level of collusion between the media and Biden’s administration to ignore his cognitive freewill, Hur remain a participant in that collusion.

    Joe Biden did have a mental state of willfulness when he stole classified documents, stored them in his unlocked garage, shared them with his drug addict son Hunter, to use to convince foreign nationals to give him bags of cash in exchange to Joe Biden’s political favors, and he shared them with the Chinese-funded Penn Biden Center. This wasn’t the case of someone’s grandpa suffering from dementia somehow wandering into a SCIFF and through a series of totally uncoordinated accidents somehow making off with classified documents.

    Mobsters get wheeled up to their criminal trials in wheelchairs on oxygen.

    A defendant’s current state could certainly inspire leniency for sentencing, not for culpability for crimes committed in the past.

    Hur is another in a long line of activists protecting prominent Democrats from the legal consequences of criminal behavior, with Comey being another prominent example.

    1. Is Hur not doing his DOJ bosses bidding, was that probably a way to do that and still keep his personal integrity. Is a response that makes neither partisan side happy a safe one for Hur (a republican) Would it not be up to the DOJ Attorney General to advise him to prosecute or not, before he filed his report while it was in DOJ review. This was a compromise it stunk of it from the beginning. But Hur was still able to maintain his personal integrity. He was vindicated last night.

  5. Biden is the latest in DEI Presidential candidates, proving you don’t have to be cool, competent or coherent to be President of the United States if you are a liberal.

  6. The MSM was absolutely wrong about the Hunter Biden laptop and now they have been shown to be wrong as to Biden’s ability to be a leader in a stressful (or not so stressful) situation. Don’t expect any apologies in either case. Right now they are looking at how they can spin both stories to their advantage.

    1. I don’t think the media was wrong about Hunter’s laptop. I think that what they said about it was another example of their MO (Media Obedience).

  7. No Biden, No Fact Checks

    Just A Lie-Fest For Trump!

    Not a question was asked without Trump turning the debate into a vehicle for deceit. Of Biden, Trump fabricated:

    “He gets paid by China. He’s a Manchurian candidate.”

    “He wants to raise everybody’s taxes by four times.”

    He allowed millions of people to come in here from prisons, jails and mental institutions to come into our country and destroy our country.”

    “He has killed so many people at our border.”

    “He’s got the largest deficit in the history of our country.”

    Trump lied about former House speaker Nancy Pelosi: “She said, ‘I take full responsibility for Jan. 6.’”

    Trump lied about Democrats, saying they “will take the life of a child in the eighth month, the ninth month and even after birth.”

    Trump lied about his former chief of staff’s statement that he called fallen soldiers “suckers” and “losers.” Trump said Biden “made that up,” too.

    Trump lied that immigrants who are in the country illegally are receiving Social Security and being housed in “luxury hotels.”

    These were all obvious howlers — yet none of it was corrected by the moderators and little by the struggling president. Capping the performance, Trump had the chutzpah somewhere in this litany of lies to say of his opponent: “I’ve never seen anybody lie like this guy.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/06/28/biden-trump-debate-lies/
    ……………………………………

    The biggest lie, however, was the claim that Biden would be amped on cocaine. This cocaine lie, in retrospect, was so far off that it seems almost hilarious at this point.

    Democrats WISH Biden had had several lines of coke neatly laid out on his podium. It’s a tragedy Biden didn’t!!

    1. Can you please explain why Joe Biden refused to take a drug test for performance enhancing drugs, if it was a lie? Donald Trump agreed to take such a test if Joe Biden would. If Biden wasn’t on drugs, why did he refuse to take the test?

      Could it be the same reason he refuse to take the cognitive test that Trump did? The Democrats, including Joe Biden, demanded Trump take a cognitive test, so he did, and released the results. Joe Biden refused to take the test and release the results. You can see why from his cognitive free fall apparent in the debate.

      Remember when Democrats claimed that Trump was mentally incompetent to have the nuclear codes? Well, there was Joe Biden, a doddering, seriously impaired old man, with the nuclear codes. Without a double standard, Democrats would have no standards at all.

      1. Karen, it was obvious that Biden NEEDED a stimulant of some kind. But he obviously didn’t take any!

      2. Democrats didn’t demand that Trump take a cognitive test. Trump IS incompetent to have access to nuclear codes and classified documents—he’s proven that—he had to show off for an Australian businessman by disclosing how close our submarines could come to Russian submarines without detection. The businessman wasn’t impressed and reported Trump. He stole classified documents, left them lying around where anyone could have gotten access and lied about returning them. God only knows what secrets would be revealed if he somehow got back into office. He is beholden to Putin and would help Russia defeat Ukraine. All those patriotic Ukrainians who have died since Putin invaded Ukraine will have died in vain. Trump praised Putin’s invasion as “genius”.

        Biden had a bad night last night, but his problem was with expression—NOT thinking. Trump was all bluster and lies. But MAGA media says he’s demented, so you have to regurgitate that. How typically Karen S—total MAGAt.

        Trump performed his usual litany of well-rehearsed lies and unhinged attacks. He IS a reality television performer but not presidential material. He proved that. He handed Biden a broken economy, public health crisis, high unemployment and schools, businesses, factories and restaurants closed down. We had the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression. Mexico didn’t pay to build the wall, jobs didn’t return to America and the “8th wonder of the world”. didn’t get built in Wisconsin until Biden got it done. Economists have warned that if Trump gets into office our economy would take a nosedive. Remember what Trump said when he lost? We wouldn’t have a country anymore. Tell that to the stock market that keeps setting records. Tell that to the statisticians who document the lowest unemployment rate in 50 years and inflation coming down. America’s economy is the best in the world and Biden is the reason.

        At the end of the day, there’s no denying that Biden has done a much better job of being president, one bad night notwithstanding. Results speak louder than words. We saw what Trump did with the booming economy Obama left him. There’s nothing wrong with Biden’s thinking and judgment, but MAGA media conflates issues with expression with issues of thinking— knowing that MAGAts will buy it. Trump confidently spews lies, but a well rehearsed delivery doesn’t change the fact that they ARE lies. Do you wonder why over 40 former members of his administration do not support him, including his Vice President?

        1. Sounds like a lot of dems are spewing maga lies about biden being rain man

        2. “Democrats didn’t demand that Trump take a cognitive test.”
          Actually they did, and he has. and he passed. While Trump exagerates – you can not “ace” a competency exam.
          Anyone who is competent will get all or nearly all questions right.
          Regardless, Trump has taken them several times and passed.

          I would be shocked if Biden has not been tested many times.
          If the results were normal – He would be saying so

          ” Trump IS incompetent to have access to nuclear codes and classified documents—he’s proven that—he had to show off for an Australian businessman by disclosing how close our submarines could come to Russian submarines without detection. ”
          And yet it is during the Biden presidency that we are closer to nuclear war than ay time since the Cuban Missle Crisis.

          Competency is NOT the same as conforming to your political whims. it is NOT making decisions as you would prefer.

          But not starting unnecescary wars and not bringing the world close to nuclear anhiliation – those are signs of competence.

          And lets not get into classified documents. Presidents and Ex presidents have legitimate posession – even ownersip in some cases of classified Docs.

          JW V NARA – a 2013 decision by a DEMOCRAT appointed Judge. finding that ex president Bill Clinton could have classified material in his sock drawer and there was nothing that NARA or the Courts could do.

          Biden shared classified documents with his biographer.

          “The businessman wasn’t impressed and reported Trump. ”

          Incorrect, Trump waive allegedly classified documents in front of some people – he did NOT share them.
          However he legally could have.

          “He stole classified documents, left them lying around where anyone could have gotten access and lied about returning them.”
          You are litterally describing the differences between Biden and Trump.
          It is Biden who ACTUALY shared classified documents.
          It is Biden who ACTUALY stole them
          It is Biden who actually left them lying arround where anyone could get at them.
          It is Biden who had no right to possess them.

          Whether you like it or not the president can not violate the espionage act. That would violate the constitution.
          Unless you are claiming that Trump broke into the WH after Jan 21, 2021 and took classified documents – you have NOTHING.
          Because anything he did prior to Jan 21, 2021 he did as president and there is absolutely nothing that a president can do to violate the espionage act.
          All powers regarding national security and classified documents are vested in the president. PERIOD

          “God only knows what secrets would be revealed if he somehow got back into office.”
          Does not matter – the president can reveal any secrets he pleases – as noted the president can not violate the espionage act.
          Obama made public the location and numbers of our nuclear weapons.

          “He is beholden to Putin and would help Russia defeat Ukraine.”
          Then why didn’t Russia roll over Ukraine in 2017 or 2018 or 2019 or 2020.

          Why did they wait until February 2022 ?

          ” All those patriotic Ukrainians who have died since Putin invaded Ukraine will have died in vain.”
          That is true no matter what. It is near certain this gets settled by diplomacy.
          It could have been long ago – But for Biden.
          Even now a deal with Putin is fairly easy to reach.

          I would bet that Putin would JUMP at an argeement
          to return to pre 2022 borders,
          That Ukraine will NOT Join NATO
          That the US will work with Russia to restore the damaged Russian energy infrastructure – such as the Nordic II pipelines and the Siberian oil well sthat are now offline,
          and restore Russias access to global markets – particularly energy markets.

          This is a deal that Biden could offer now – rather than moving towards more nuclear brinksmanship.

          It is highly unlikely that Ukraine can win this war NO MATTER WHAT.
          They will lose a war of attrition and everyone knows it.

          There is a very small possibility that as they now have western fighters they MIGHT be able to mount a successful offensive.
          But the odds are long and that is their last shot.

          Short of NATO boots on the ground so long as Russia is willing to endure massive casualties, they will win.
          That is ALWAYS how Russia wins wars – it is NOT new.
          It is a bloody mess. But there are no signs that Russia is no longer willing to endure massive casualties to win this.

          “Trump praised Putin’s invasion as “genius”.”

          Putin is with certainty a genius. That does not make him a good person.

          “Biden had a bad night last night, but his problem was with expression—NOT thinking.”
          No the problem is that he has dimensia.

          ” Trump was all bluster and lies.”
          We have been through all of this – Trump exagerates, But his claims are pretty close to correct.
          Biden’s claims are only not lies – because Biden does not have the mental accurity to knowingly lie.

          If you honestly beleive Biden’s problem last night was speech not cognitiion – then Biden is by far the biggest liar and has made an incredible numeber of abysmal choices as president.

          The choice is simple – Biden is incompetent or his is evil.

          “But MAGA media says he’s demented”
          No pretty much everyone was saying that last night.
          Once again REALITY proved “MAGA” right.

          “Trump performed his usual litany of well-rehearsed lies and unhinged attacks.”
          Lies – no. Attacks – absolutely that is part of what debating is about

          Well rehersed – definitely – Trump publicly speaks for hours without a prompter several times a week.

          Trump speaks publicly more in a weak than Biden does in a year.
          “He IS a reality television performer”
          Yes, that has been a requirement for PResident since the Nixon Kennedy debates in 1960.

          ” but not presidential material.”
          The american people decided 65 years ago that if you want to be president you had better be able to debate on TV

          “He proved that. He handed Biden …”
          All this nonsense has been rebutted many times.

          With respect to the economic data – I strongly suggest Trading Economics – they have a massive database of econoic data for every country in the world going back for decades.

          Before you make an economic claim – check there. It will prevent the myriads of errors that you make everytime you post.

          “Tell that to the statisticians who document the lowest unemployment rate in 50 years”
          Nice claim – still false. Unemployment in Feb 2020 was 3.5% – Biden has not done any better – 2020 was 4 years ago – not 50.
          And current unemployment is 4% – not 3.5

          “and inflation coming down.”
          Inflation was 1.4% in Jan 2021 when Biden took office. It peaked at 9% in 2021 and the average inflation for 2021 was 7%
          The average for 2022 was 6.5%
          It is “down to 3.4% – but that is a tiny RISE over what it was in jan 2024. and more than double what it was in Jan 2021.

          “America’s economy is the best in the world ”
          Correct. Adn true for much of the past century.
          “and Biden is the reason.”
          False inaguably it would have been Better but for Biden.

          “at the end of the day, there’s no denying that Biden has done a much better job of being president”
          Only if you live in an alternate reality.
          Gigi – you are either lying or incredibly stupid and unable to check basic facts.

          ” one bad night notwithstanding. ”
          It has been a very bad 4 years.

          “Results speak louder than words.”
          They do and that alone will get Trump elected.

          ” We saw what Trump did with the booming economy Obama left him.”
          ROFL – we were headed into recession in 2016.
          Obama’s average growth rate was 1.48% the worst of any president in the 21st century. Possibly the worst of any preident ever.
          And Obama took office at the bottom of a reession – he had nowhere to go but up.

          ‘There’s nothing wrong with Biden’s thinking and judgment,”
          That is not what nearly very significant democrats said last night.

          ” but MAGA media conflates issues with expression with issues of thinking”
          CNN is not MAGA, MSNBC is not MAGA.

        3. We saw on gross display how mentally incompetent Biden is.
          Trump display nothing of the sort.
          I love reading your lies and desperation to give Biden a pass.
          You are a pathetic fool.

        4. “by disclosing how close our submarines could come to Russian submarines without detection.”

          And how close is that, Gigi?

          You have schooled on this lie before, yet you repeat it again.

          You’re a LIAR and an ignorant douche.

          There is no “distance” that an American sub can get without detection.

          Do you know how many times an American sub has collided with a Russian sub and the poor commies didnt know it until the hull scraping sounds?

          I’ve been in the baffles of a russian alpha and several of their missile boats, so i might know something about this.

          Do you think this distance” is written down like some sort of fvcking statistic? What a gullible fool you are.

          Our subs can travel in excess of 20 knots and at depths in excess of 400 feet, and can get within 200 yards of a russian sub without detection
          ——-US Navy Top Secret Sub Technical Manual

          ^^^^thats parody in case you dont get it, you moron

          Acoustics play an important role in submarine warfare. Water temperature, gradients, depth of the water, and sea state are critical factors in sonar effectiveness and range.

          Running equipment, ships speed, ships depth, and a couple more things that you dont have a need to know are also factors.

          From a tactical standpoint, The Russians know exactly how close we can get. We go out of our way to make sure they know, dunce.

          So no, Trump didnt “spill the beans” on a damn thing. Get a clue before you run that fat mouth of yours.

          —-Waters, Captain, USN, Retired

        5. How typically Karen S—total MAGAt.

          I have forwarded your comment to Professor Turley via email.

    2. “He gets paid by China. He’s a Manchurian candidate.”
      Does China control Biden ? Not likely. Just as Trump is not controlled by Russia.
      Has the Biden family collected tens of millions from China ? Yes.

      “He wants to raise everybody’s taxes by four times.”
      Hard to say what someone else wants.

      Regardless Government spending must be paid for – whether it is done by Republicans or Democrats.
      Republicans spend to much. Democrats are completely out of control.

      “He allowed millions of people to come in here from prisons, jails and mental institutions to come into our country and destroy our country.”
      Somewhere between 10-15 million illegal immigrants have entered the US in the last 4 years.
      Are millions criminal etc ? not likely – but hundreds of thousands certainly.

      “He has killed so many people at our border.”
      People have died at the border or coming here.

      “He’s got the largest deficit in the history of our country.”
      The 2020 defict was the largest – that included $2T in Covid stimulus that was passed bipartisan.
      The 2021 Deficit was nearly as large – that is all Democrats. The 2022 Deficit was more than double the 2017 deficit.
      The 2023 Deficit was double the 2018 deficit

      The 2023 Debt is 33T the largest ever and 6T higher than When Biden took office.
      That is more than the entire increase during 4 years of Trump including 2020 and Covid spending – and Biden did it in 3 years.

      “Trump lied about former House speaker Nancy Pelosi: “She said, ‘I take full responsibility for Jan. 6.’””
      There is video of her saying that. It is also true.

      “Trump lied about Democrats, saying they “will take the life of a child in the eighth month, the ninth month and even after birth.””
      Again Trump’s statement is True – both NY and VA under Democratic governors attempted to pass legislation that was EXACTLY that.
      Republicans and public outcry stopped it.

      “Trump lied about his former chief of staff’s statement that he called fallen soldiers “suckers” and “losers.” Trump said Biden “made that up,” too.”
      Trump is correct – that is a made up claim. The alleged primary source have denied that Trump ever said that. They have also denied they said that Trump said that.
      Biden did NOT “make that up” but he repeated – as have you and the press and democrats a BOGUS claim.
      That is called lying.

      “Trump lied that immigrants who are in the country illegally are receiving Social Security and being housed in “luxury hotels.”
      Some are.

      “These were all obvious howlers”
      And yet a FEW are small exagerations and nearly all are ACTUALLY CORRECT.

      “yet none of it was corrected by the moderators and little by the struggling president.”
      The moderators did not correct Trump – BECAUSE he was not lying.

      “Capping the performance, Trump had the chutzpah somewhere in this litany of lies to say of his opponent: “I’ve never seen anybody lie like this guy.””

      Lying requires intent – Biden is not lying – because he is not competent enough to have intent.
      As SC Hurr noted – he is clueless – non-compis mentis, demented.
      That said SOME of Trumps statements were fairly ordinary political exagerations.
      Pretty much everything Biden said was FALSE.
      Pretty much every claim you have made regarding Trump is FALSE.

      If you are going to accuse others of lying – you had better know what the truth is – you clearly do not.

      Like Biden – you just make things up.

      “https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/06/28/biden-trump-debate-lies/”
      ROFL

      “The biggest lie, however, was the claim that Biden would be amped on cocaine.”
      It is unlikely that Biden was “coked up” – it is near certain that he received all kinds of drugs to try to enhance his performance,
      and they likely worked – just not well enough.

      There are lots of drugs for dementia patients. All improve cognative performance – NONE enough to make Joe Biden competent.

      “This cocaine lie, in retrospect, was so far off that it seems almost hilarious at this point.”
      Who knows. Biden did seem more prone to pass out than be amped up.

      “Democrats WISH Biden had had several lines of coke neatly laid out on his podium. It’s a tragedy Biden didn’t!!”
      Do you really think Cocaine would have helped ?

  8. Former President Barack Obama said on Thursday that the spread of disinformation online is harming American democracy, and the tech industry needs regulation and legislation to address the problem.
    “The very design of these platforms seems to be tilting us in the wrong direction,” Obama said at a Stanford Cyber Policy Center event. Apr 21 2022

    They are stealing the 2024 election, screenshot this

  9. What have we become as a nation when Democrats like Maxine Waters incite violence against Trump supporters and conservatives use parody (?) to shoot Biden like a wounded animal?

    Funny or not this is pretty dark stuff.

    Democrats Ask Kristi Noem To Take Biden Out Behind White House Shed

    U.S. — Kristi Noem’s penchant for putting down untrainable animals made her popular with Democrats following last night’s Presidential Debate, with her phone reportedly ringing off the hook ever since.

    Democrats from all over the country were calling to implore the South Dakota Governor to “please please” take Biden out behind the White House shed and put him out of his misery.

    “I just can’t imagine how hard it must be for the poor guy,” said one caller, later identified as California Governor Gavin Newsom. “The president can barely move. That’s not a life worth living. He deserves the dignity of … you know… the thing.”

    Other callers didn’t beat around the bush as much. “He’s blowing it for all of us!” Vice President Kamala Harris argued. “Just take him back there and bury him in a box or something, okay? Hahahaha!”

    “Kamala? It’s 3:00 in the morning!” Noem reportedly said, irritated, though all she could hear on the other line was laughter.

    Political experts suggested Gov. Noem may be exactly what the world needs right now. “She’s the only human that can do it,” political commentator James Carville told reporters. “I certainly couldn’t kill anyone that wasn’t an unborn baby.”

    According to sources, Kristi Noem initially refused the requests before agreeing that it was something that must be done. “My country is calling on me to do a great service for all Americans,” she said.

    At publishing time, Kristi Noem reluctantly accepted the job after realizing it was her only chance to hunt the most dangerous game.

    https://babylonbee.com/news/democrats-ask-kristi-noem-to-take-biden-out-behind-white-house-shed

  10. I wrote here in back in January that Biden would not be able to hold it together until November and they’d have to eventually replace him.

    And musing on the msm’s current brainlock over his mental collapse on stage in front of the whole world last night, I just figured out why they are doing it. Why they want him in power. I mean I knew this but suddenly it just seems so clear.

    Because he is so far advanced into the stages of dementia that he has ZERO power to say “no” to anything.

    In other words, currently we are seeing a silent military coup. Our country has been taken over by the military industrial complex and behind the scenes, the Joint Chiefs and MIC lobbyists may be literally controlling Biden.

    They have him there because they can tell him to make war, and he just can’t say no because he has no more will power.

    Its like that old Star Trek episode where Kirk and Spock beam down to a planet where another Starship captain was stranded and ended up turning the population into Nazis. They ended up drugging him so that the warmongers behind the scenes could feed him speeches and he’d read them because he was so out of it that he didn’t really know what he was saying, much like a dementia patient.

    One thing you will learn if you’ve ever had a first hand experience with a loved one with dementia, then you’ll know all too well that they are ‘highly’ susceptible to suggestion.

    You tell them why something is important or why they should approve something and they just say “ok”.

    They want Biden there because he’s so easy to manipulate. They don’t like Trump because he’s not as easy, although they can manipulate him too, its just with Trump it’ll cost them something.

    Biden is like Mikey in the old “LIFE” cereal commercials. He likes everything.

    1. Chris Weber is Floyd TurdWaters Estovir

      Chris is third in line to Waters and Traveler. If Waters dries out or Traveler is lost, then Christ Weber can step in like a practiced understudy.

      1. No, you’re just an ignorant coward hiding behind a trolls handle. I work during the day troll, unlike you. I comment very little in here and when I do I do it UNDER MY OWN NAME. I’m a tree climber and cutter, not a political hack and definitely not some anonymous coward like you trolling because your words are so shameful you wont’ even put your own worthless name on them.

  11. Didn’t Let’s Go Brandon pledge 4 years ago to only seek one term in office?

  12. Puppet Brigade Ahead!

    All Floyd, But No Floyd

    Just below we see another clump of Floyds by different names: Waters, Shakdi, semcgowanjr, Traveler and green anonymous. They are all scripted by Floyd ‘TurdWaters Estovir.

    Semcgowanjr is another legacy puppet from 4 years ago. Floyd likes to bring these puppets back every now and then because they’re long-established. This morning we saw thetenants1970 for the first time in months.

    Another legacy puppet is Shakdi. We’re supposed to think he’s East Indian, or possibly Hispanic. Floyd uses Shakdi in spurts. Shakdi is constantly disappearing and reappearing like an old friend who gets busy with other things but returns whenever he can.

    Chris P Bacon is no legacy puppet. But his position in this clump warrants suspicion.

    Traveler and Waters are fairly new puppets that Floyd is currently playing in active rotation. Waters, in fact, seems to be on track to replace Floyd as the new flagship puppet; while Traveler is showcased as a standby in case Waters fizzles.

      1. Hello Floyd! Are you me and am I you? Disturbed minds need to know! 😂😵

        1. Hi Traveler! I think maybe I am you when I take a nap. When dreaming, I tend to go places. 🙂

    1. You’re an idiot. I am not Floyd, I am Traveler…America’s best, horse!

  13. Gigi

    How many Service Members died at Abbe Gate?

    Joe Biden says it was ZERO.

    Do you agree with that lie?

    1. As of months ago 450 US service members have died in Ukraine. So joe blow flat out lied about that , too. I don’t know what the current count is, but it is higher.

      So what we get with this demoncrat in power is massive lies to the entire USA populace FROM EVERY GOVERNMENT ENTITY LYING IN UNISON TO THE PUBLIC.

      Luckily we have connected big shot government MIC and Administration persons with in place contacts holding clearances that spill the beans on the liars on occasion.

  14. Bari Weiss:

    Those around the president—Jill Biden, certainly, but also all those savvy staffers—should have encouraged Biden to bow out gracefully after his first term. Because what happened last night was heartbreaking. It debased Biden as a man. It was also alarming—the person we saw onstage is our commander in chief. He holds the nuclear football. It wasn’t just Americans who watched his performance last night.

    1. Well said! I wonder if Jittery Joe did say to launch the missiles, if anyone would listen to him? You know, if there was really, truly Karma, someone (Little Rocket Man, for egs.) would take advantage of what the Democrats have wrought, and one or two of the missiles would miss Taiwan, or wherever, and take out parts of the Left Coast.

      And that is kind of scary, because sometimes the Universe does give us what we deserve.

  15. Well, barak just showed that the talking point is out there and being dutifully repeated.

    Let me get this right. Our choice is between a doddering old fool and a liar?

    I thought it was between a doddering old fool and a convicted felon?

    I guess its just a coincidence that EVERY LIBTARD is using the “liar” line???

    I am still compiling the exact numbers, but initial estimate is that Biden told 50% more provably false lies than Trump last night.

    1. Here’s how Merriam-Webster defines “cognitive”:

      “as in reasonable technical of, relating to, or involving conscious mental activities (such as thinking, understanding, learning, and remembering)
      cognitive development”

      Joe Biden does not have cognitive impairment–he has a speech impediment. His thinking is clear. He is 81 years old, but his responses were both true and on-point to the onslaught of lies uttered by Trump. He hasn’t rehearsed the litany of lies before cheering crowds of delusional followers like Trump has. He’s been busy passing legislation and trying to solve world problems. He occasionally misspoke, but Trump does that all of the time.

      For someone like Turley to conflate expressive problems with thinking problems is intellectually dishonest. Turley knows better.

      That “doddering old fool” reversed Trump’s recession, got America back to work, back to school, restaurants and businesses opened up, got COVID under control, passed infrastructure and inflation control acts, the Chips Act, is getting prescription drug prices under control, and mended relations with our allies that Trump trashed. The stock market hit a new high. Unemployment is at a 50 year low. Remember when Trump said that if Biden got elected we “won’t have a country any more”, and that America would crash? Well, it didn’t–we are thriving. And, Mexico didn’t pay to build the wall, manufacturing jobs returned to America under Biden, not Trump, the 8th “wonder of the world” didn’t get built in Wisconsin like Trump promised (but Biden got it done) and far from being the diaster Trump claims, America and its economy are the envy of the entire world. So, Trump has to lie.

      Come up with actual “provably false lies” Joe Biden said.

        1. got America back to work,

          Wrong. The LOCKDOWNS caused unemployment to peak at 15% in 2020. It was down to 6.4% when biden took office. It took another year for Biden to get it to close to where it was under Trump pre pandemic.

          Now, I’ll throw you a bone. How many jobs does a President “create” and how exactly does he pull off that magic trick?

          You are a genuine imbecile as well as a PATHOLOGICAL LIAR

      1. That “doddering old fool” reversed Trump’s recession,

        Gigi

        You are a liar

        We were not in a recession when biden took office

        The previous 2 quarters before biden took office had positive GDP growth

        PATHOLOGICAL LIAR

      2. According to polls

        Gigi is in the 18% who think we are thriving.

        82% of people making over $400k agree with her.

        18% also still think the pee tape is real.

      3. Gigi – even the left has abandoned you.

        I did not personally think that Joe’s performance was nearly as bad as it could have been.

        What mattered is that the LIE that Joe is competent – that all the video of him fumbling was “cheap fakes” or deceptively edited FAILED.

        He was live on CNN lst night and he came off exactly as he has in the various “cheap fakes” and “deceptively edited” videos.

        You the left, democrats and the media have been caught in another lie.

        Soon the panic will end, and you the left, the media and Democrats will go back to lying – because reality will set in – Joe probably can not be replaced,
        and so you will all go back to lying – about Trump and about Biden.

        You have done so already.

        You cite websters – I cite millions of american eyeballs.

        People know what they saw and heard – Websters does not change that.

        Your argument is typical of the left – beleive the spin, beleive government experts. Do not beleive what you saw, what you heard, Do not use common sense.

        Millions of people got their first real experince with Biden in a couple of years yesterday.

        There are the undecideds or the marginally committed voters,
        The people who

        1. the people who barely pay attention to policitcs – and Yesterday the learned they have been lied to about Biden

      4. “he has a speech impediment”
        Correct, but that is not what we have been seeing since 2016. Biden has always stuttered a little.
        In the past decade we have been seeing a growing frequency of brain farts – completely losing his train of thought.

        All of us do that sometimes. But the frequency with which Biden is doing it is way past anything normal.

        Alzheiners is typically slow moving – this did not happen yesterday. He is probably atleast a decade in – and that is with good treatment.

        It is unlikely he is dying of this soon.
        He is also NOT getting better – it will get worse.

        This is not a speech impediment.

        But you go girl – you keep pretending.

        Frankly I gave up on the Biden is demented argument long ago – while he clearly is
        That does not matter.

        WHOEVER is governing the country is INCOMPETENT
        No his reponses were not true – not even by the maleable standards of politis.

        Please name a LIE by Trump ?

        Biden spent a week getting ready for this – more than a week getting redy for 90 minutes.
        He got Two never before seen breaks in the middle of the debate – he did not have to manage more than 30 minutes at a time.
        He had two moderators trying to cover for him.
        He got everything he wanted – and he still tanked.

        Yes, Trump has more practice – BECAUSE he CAN.

        Biden can not speak off the cuff for 90seconds much less the 4 hrs that Trump routinely does.

        “He’s been busy passing legislation and trying to solve world problems.””

        The problems of he world are WORSE than 4 yrs ago.
        There is no participation trophy for president.
        Good intentions are not enough.
        You screw up – as Biden has repeatedly and not just the country but the WORLD suffers.

        Trump exagerates – alot, he also occasionally phrases things in a way that makes it easy for those who hate him to edit them out of context to mean something different.

        Biden is lost. He does not know what he is doing or what he is talking about.

        I do not think anyone is claiming Joe Biden is intellectually dishonest.

        The Claim is that those of YOU still claiming he is competent are being intellectually dishonest.

        Separately Turley is correctly appalled at the totatiltarian anti-free speech agenda of the left.
        That is PROPERLY attributable to the Biden administration.

        Is Joe personally responsible – no he is not competent.
        Regardless – he is president and what is done in his name is attributed to his administration.

        “That “doddering old fool” reversed Trump’s recession”
        That is called a LIE. 2020 Q# GDP rose 34% – the largest single qtr rise in US history.
        2020 Q4 GDP rose 4.2%

        There was a techical recession due to Covid in Q1 and Q2 2020 – throughout the entire world.
        Cause primarily by the Democrat Lockdowns.

        Overall Growth in 2020 was 0%

        Joe Biden had negative growth in Q1 and Q2 2022 – again a technical recession.
        Q2 2024 Growth is 1.4% – we are with near certainty headed into another recession.
        Hopefully a mild one. That will occur regardless of who is elected.
        But it will be BECAUSE of Bidens inflationary policies.
        The FED has tried to clear inflation without a recession – they have failed.

        All that spending has to be paid for.

        “got America back to work”
        Even that claim is coming under fire – the numbers have been cooked.

        “back to school”
        Red states were back in school in 2020 – many never closed.

        Again – it is DEMOCRATS that locked things down.

        ” restaurants and businesses opened up”
        In blue states – in red states they never closed.

        “got COVID under control”
        Really ? The only thing that has changed is that Covid has become endmic and mutated to be little more than a head cold.
        The latter was inevitable. The former th consequence of bad left wing policies.

        “passed infrastructure”
        That we do not need. The “infrastructure” of the US has been paid for by Gas taxes for my entire lifetime.
        Obama’s ARRA was a failure – Biden’s infrastructure is no better.
        I would note – Trump wanted to pass and infrastructure bill – that does not make it a good idea.

        “and inflation control acts”
        Inflation is 3.4% – unheard of since the 70’s. It peaked at 9% under Biden – who inherited normal inflation of 1.4%.
        To the extent inflation is under control – that is because of the FED not Biden.

        Regardless it is too high and harmful to everyone – especially the least well off.
        Inflation is the most regressive tax there is.

        “Inflation Is Always and Everywhere a Monetary Phenomenon”
        Milton Friedman.

        The Fed printed more money to pay for Biden’s spending. More money means INFLATION.
        That is the SOLE cause of inflation.

        Things like the Ukraine war of the Biden caused supply chain problems effect WHERE inflation occurs.
        But increasing money supply ALWAYS means inflation.

        “the Chips Act”
        Biden cited Tiawanese and South Koreans building new plants in the US – that started During Trump and is driven by global factors that have little to do with Trump or Biden or policies.

        50% of the worlds chip production is in Taiwan, and Xi has made it clear he has his eyes on Taiwan. The fire in a Taiwanese factory several years ago that caused problems for the auto industry highlighted the problem that so much Chip production was in Taiwan.

        We are in the midst of a global restructuring. The old globalist world is coming to an end. The US is backing away from its role as the worlds policeman.

        China is increasingly beligerant even actually fascist and even big businesses are diversifying out of China. That does not mean everyone will leave china.
        It means that NEW production will be more likely to be elsewhere.

        Those products that still need cheap labor wiill move to the rest of asia – India, CAmbodia, Thailand, Vietnam, Malasia, Philipines.
        Those needing hikills will move to Mexico, or Australia. Very skilled production will move to the US.

        Separately Biden dumping 10+M illegal immigrants in the country will mean a large increases in unskilled US production.
        These are low skill jobs for ne immigrants – they ARE NOT high paying high skill jobs for existing citizens.

        Biden’s massive influx of illegal immigration will cause a large variety of problems and disruptions for atleast a decade.
        BUT in fact – in both the long and short run it will be NET Positive for the US. But it will NOT be net positive for most US Citizens – Voters.

        And Net positive does not mean that MOST people will not see it as negative.
        Those negatives are very real. They are just not as large as the positives.

        ” is getting prescription drug prices under control”
        The ONLY way to get prices under control is to have an ACTUAL free market.
        Every effort of Government to control prices EVER has failed. Trump, Biden does not matter – the uninteded conseuences of price controls are ALWAYS NET NEGATIVE.

        “and mended relations with our allies that Trump trashed.”
        ROFL – nearly all of Europe is facing populist revolutions similar to – though MORE far right than the US. Sweden, Denmark, Italy Germany, france Are ALL moving to the RIGHT,

        And whether you like it or not – both americans and Europeans as a whole beleive that the War in Ukraine that is causing all kinds of problems throughout Europe are BIDEN”S FAULT.
        AS is the growing conflict in the Mideast.

        These are all very large problems for Europe – much larger than they are in the US.
        And they are BIDEN’s FAULT.

        If you think World leaders respect Biden – YOUR NUTS.
        Regardless any that actually do will likely be out of power soon.

        “The stock market hit a new high.”
        Inflation effects stocks.

        “Unemployment is at a 50 year low.”
        The Biden admin bottomed out at 3.5% in march 2023 – that is the SAME rate that we had in Feb. 2020 – before Covid.
        The current rate is 4.0 and RISING.
        Sept 68 was 3.4% Sept 53 was 2.5%.

        “Remember when Trump said that if Biden got elected we “won’t have a country any more”, and that America would crash? Well, it didn’t–we are thriving.”
        Trump exagerated – that said we are NOT Thriving – we are more divided than ever.
        Th average Growth rate over the Biden presidency has been about 2% – and declining. That is the same as Trump – including a full year of zero growth due to Coivd.
        Trumps pre covid average was 2.8% Growth was 5.2% when Biden took office – it is 1.$% now.

        WE are more divided than ever. Biden promised to work accross the aisle – he could not manage to work with his own party most of the time.

        Trump was wrong – Biden did not cost us the country. but he did do great harm. We will survive in the unlikely event he is re-elected.
        Democracy will not end if Either Trump or Biden is elected – but the things that make this country unique, that make it great have declind under Biden and will improve under Trump.

        “And, Mexico didn’t pay to build the wall”
        But they Did keep illegal immigrants in Mexico.

        “manufacturing jobs returned to America under Biden, not Trump”
        US Manufacturing PMI was 55 in Jan 2017, it was 59.2 in Jan 2021. It is 51.7 Now.

        “America and its economy are the envy of the entire world.”
        It is. That was true under every single president in my lifetime.
        But it is MORE true under some presidents than others.
        The US has improved under every president in my lifetime.
        But it has NOT improve at the same rate.
        During much of the 19th century the US improved by about 7%/yr – that meant doubling standard of living every tn years.
        The average for the 20th century was 3.5%
        Bush had Growth of just barely 2%, Obama was 1.4% Trump was 2% including Covid and 2.8% for the 3 prior years.
        Biden is currently at 1.4% and likely will average at or below 2% for his 4 years.

        “So, Trump has to lie.”
        How so ? You have been wrong about nearly everything you claimed about either Trump or Biden.

        “Come up with actual “provably false lies” Joe Biden said.’
        Pretty much anything that he has said – at the debate, or in his rare public appearances.

        Trump exaggerates. He is not the greatest president ever, he is not even a particularly great president.
        but he is the best president of the 21st century.

        I would say Biden lies, rather than merely exaggerates – but he is not competent enough to know the difference.
        He just repeats what he has been told and what he has been told is garbage.

  16. Did I hear correctly that the big guy said when he was over in Normandy commemorating D Day, that he met with world war 2 veterans that died there. Independent Bob.

    1. In fairness Biden was the first person to drop a bomb on Normandy in 80 years.

  17. Gigi

    How many persons who crossed the border illegally, have been arrested in the last 2 weeks for rape, murder, and kidnapping?

    I have $100 that says you have no idea, since you dont read alt right news.

    1. What you rely on isn’t “news”–it’s MAGA media, and they constantly LIE, just like the orange turd you worship.

      1. Nice try Gigi.

        Biden, your white turd GOD

        You love him because he is a PATHOLOGICAL LIAR, just like you.

        I asked you a question. How many?

  18. Well, if nothing else, last night’s debate shed a spotlight on the Attorney General’s continued willingness to run interference for Team Biden by not releasing the audio of the Hur interviews!

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