In my new book, The Indispensable Right: Free Speech in an Age of Rage,” I write about a global anti-free speech movement that is now sweeping over the United States. While not the first, it is in my view the most dangerous movement in our history due to an unprecedented alliance of government, corporate, academic, and media forces. That fear was amplified this week with polling showing that years of attacking free speech as harmful has begun to change the views of citizens.
As discussed in the book, our own anti-free speech movement began in higher education where it continues to rage. It then metastasized throughout our politics and media. It is, therefore, not surprising to see the new Knight Foundation-Ipsos study revealing a further a decline in students’ views concerning the state of free speech on college campuses.
The study shows that 70 percent of students “believe that speech can be as damaging as physical violence.” It also shows the impact of speech codes and regulations with two out of three students reporting that they “self-censor” during classroom discussions.
Not surprisingly, Republican students are the most likely to self-censor given the purging of conservative faculty and the viewpoint intolerance shown on most campuses.
Some 49 percent of Republican students report self-censoring on three or more topics. Independents are the second most likely at 40 percent. Some 38 percent of Democrats admit to self-censuring.
Sixty percent of college students strongly or somewhat agree that “[t]he climate at my school or on my campus prevents some people from saying things they believe, because others might find it offensive.”
The most alarming finding may be that only 54 percent of students believe that colleges should “allow students to be exposed to all types of speech even if they may find it offensive or biased.” That figure stood at 78 percent in 2016.
The poll follows similar results in a new poll by the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression (FIRE) of the population as a whole. It found that 53% of Americans believe that the First Amendment goes too far in protecting rights. So there is now a majority who believe that the First Amendment, including their own rights, should be curtailed.
The most supportive of limiting free speech are Democrats at a shocking 61%. However, a majority (52%) of Republicans also agreed.
Roughly 40% now trust the government to censor speech, agreeing that they trust the government “somewhat,” “very much,” or “completely” to make fair decisions about what speech should be disallowed.
It is no small feat to convince a free people to give up their freedoms. They have to be afraid or angry. These polls suggest that they appear both very afraid and very angry.
It is the result of years of indoctrinating students and citizens that free speech is harmful and dangerous. We have created a generation of speech phobics who are willing to turn their backs on centuries of struggle against censorship and speech codes.
Anti-free speech books have been heralded in the media. University of Michigan Law Professor and MSNBC legal analyst Barbara McQuade has written how dangerous free speech is for the nation. Her book, “Attack from Within,” describes how free speech is what she calls the “Achilles Heel” of America, portraying this right not as the value that defines this nation but the threat that lurks within it.
McQuade and many on the left are working to convince people that “disinformation” is a threat to them and that free speech is the vehicle that makes them vulnerable.
This view has been pushed by President Joe Biden who claims that companies refusing to censor citizens are “killing people.” The Biden administration has sought to use disinformation to justify an unprecedented system of censorship.
Recently, the New York Times ran a column by former Biden official and Columbia University law professor Tim Wu describing how the First Amendment was “out of control” in protecting too much speech.
Wu insists that the First Amendment is now “beginning to threaten many of the essential jobs of the state, such as protecting national security and the safety and privacy of its citizens.” He claims that the First Amendment “now mostly protects corporate interests.”
There is even a movement afoot to rewrite the First Amendment through an amendment. George Washington University Law School Professor Mary Anne Franks believes that the First Amendment is “aggressively individualistic” and needs to be rewritten to “redo” the work of the Framers.
Her new amendment suggestion replaces the clear statement in favor of a convoluted, ambiguous statement of free speech that will be “subject to responsibility for abuses.” It then adds that “all conflicts of such rights shall be resolved in accordance with the principle of equality and dignity of all persons.”
Franks has also dismissed objections to the censorship on social media and insisted that “the Internet model of free speech is little more than cacophony, where the loudest, most provocative, or most unlikeable voice dominates . . . If we want to protect free speech, we should not only resist the attempt to remake college campuses in the image of the Internet but consider the benefits of remaking the Internet in the image of the university.”
Franks is certainly correct that those “unlikeable voices” are less likely to be heard in academia today. As discussed in my book, faculties have largely cleansed with the ranks of conservative, Republican, libertarian, and dissenting professors through hiring bias and attrition. In self-identifying surveys, some faculties show no or just a handful of conservative or Republican members.
The discussion on most campuses now runs from the left to far left without that pesky “cacophony” of opposing viewpoints.
One of the most dangerous and successful groups in this anti-free speech movement has been Antifa. I testified in the Senate on Antifa and the growing anti-free speech movement in the United States. I specifically disagreed with the statement of House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler that Antifa (and its involvement in violent protests) is a “myth.”
In the meantime, Antifa continues to attack those with opposing views and anti-free speech allies continue to “deplatform” speakers on campuses and public forums. “Your speech is violence” is now a common mantra heard around the country.
Faculty continue to lead students in attacking pro-life and other demonstrators.
Antifa is now so popular in some quarters that it recently saw two members elected to the French and European parliaments.
Antifa is at its base a movement at war with free speech, defining the right itself as a tool of oppression. It is laid out in Rutgers Professor Mark Bray’s “Antifa: The Anti-Fascist Handbook” in which he emphasizes the struggle of the movement against free speech: “At the heart of the anti-fascist outlook is a rejection of the classical liberal phrase that says, ‘I disapprove of what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it.’”
Bray quotes one Antifa member as summing up their approach to free speech as a “nonargument . . . you have the right to speak but you also have the right to be shut up.”
However, the most chilling statement may have come from arrested Antifa member Jason Charter after an attack on historic statues in Washington, D.C. After his arrest, Charter declared “The Movement is winning.” As these polls show, he is right.
Jonathan Turley is the Shapiro Professor of Public Interest Law at George Washington University. He is the author of “The Indispensable Right: Free Speech in an Age of Rage” (Simon & Schuster, June 18, 2024).
Anything that goes against the leftists narrative is seen as “dangerous.”
Snowflakes.
Wow almost as cutting as when you called Dennis ‘LOSER’ ten times.
Dennis is a loser. so are you
Universities are a major source of the hostility to free speech.
https://reason.com/2024/07/31/70-percent-of-college-students-say-speech-can-be-as-damaging-as-physical-violence
A Republic, but we couldn’t keep it.
How intelligent the framers were. No government brain damage needed.
I’ve never felt like I shouldn’t speak my mind, but timing and delivery are important. I’ve often held my tongue because it wasn’t my place to speak. But when the time’s right, never shrink from speaking the truth with love, even if that truth is a hard one.
Oh hell no. American history is being destroyed. The computer bots are busy with their algorithms are writing over every single book, artifact, music, fact, movies, magazines, newspapers every jot and tittle until it’s all a lie.
Who’s the father of lies?
Dear Prof Turley,
There’s nothing wrong with the indispensable free speech. It either is or it ain’t.. . on the other hand, the “unprecedented alliance of government, corporate, academic, and media forces” could be a real problem!
Remember, “if you control the mail, you control information”. ~ Newman, Seinfeld episode #11
This unprecedented alliance has a tendency to piss some people off. For example, the NYT tried to send me to rehab (i.e. ‘anger management’) once . .. but I said no, no, no.
Keeping the discussion going on this topic is crucial! Thank you, Professor.
This is a bowel movement which will constipate the globe.
Do people post comments here for the betterment of humanity?
Do people post comments here for the betterment of humanity?
Do you post anonymously because you’re concerned your parents will see what a train wreck they’re raising? That inane anonymous post was supposed to make this blog better?
Signed (not an anonymous coward)
Old Airborne Dog
You do not use your real name. No one has any idea who you are (except perhaps your parents).
YOU are also an anonymous coward.
An Anonymous coward continued his cowardice with this “You do not use your real name. No one has any idea who you are (except perhaps your parents). YOU are also an anonymous coward.
Same username I use on all online sites – you meanwhile are still cowering without a username that provides a trail of your comments. Feel free to spend the rest of the day frantically doing Google searches for my username. Usernames have become normal on the internet to protect commenters from being stalked by vermin, I follow that norm as do many here, but I can happily dispense with that.
You want my full name as it is on my passport and birth certificate? Go ahead and start using a username, add your real name to it, and then I’ll happily provide mine.
We can even exchange our street addresses if you want, you feckless Anonymous coward… not worried about any of you feckless culls having the gonads to travel to Montana to try your big city shyte here. We have no legal requirement to call 911 instead of 1911 when we have problems with mangy vermin that show up at our doors.
Signed
Old Airborne Dog
(given first name “Rick” – your move, you mangina dripping coward)
Post it, big boy.
Post your full name and state of residence. Or remain a big mouthed coward
Or show us how big your balls really are and post your address, phone number, and email addy.
You are even dumber than I thought if you think that shitlibs will come to your door. You think thats the worst that can happen, idiot? Then post your shit and find out. tomorrow you can change your phone number and email address, when those become useless.
Moron
Also you prove your stupidity by missing the point. YOU are just as anonymous as anyone else.
You pathetically act like using a username gives you some kind of high ground. Its why you mention it every time. And you’re being called out for that stupidity. and you don’t like it.
Like the average shitlib, you won’t learn from it, you’ll just double down on your stupid shit. as you normally do.
See how easy to add a username, dipshit? Still anonymous, just like you.
Oh, I almost forgot
Signed—guy who thnks yu’re an utter tool.
Old Dog and Upstate both act like
‘Anonymous’ commenters should have to use
separate drinking fountains.
Old Airborne Dumbass,
WELL SAID!
Glad to see someone gets it.
Don’t get me wrong. I enjoy reading the Rabid Dog’s putdowns of the shitlibs here. Many are quite funny and most are poignant.
But he shows his inate insecurity by attempting to use screen names as some sort of litmus for who has a valid arguement. Like it gives him some sort of authority or credibility, when it does neither. Look at Dennis the Draft Dodger McIntyre. Perfect example that using a name lends zero cred and certainly no bravery. The dude is as chicken shit as they come. So, its either disingenuous or just plain stupid. Rabid Dog can say which, but there is no alternative. A tactic of the very people he ridicules here daily.
Not to mention the stupid fvck confuses the two George’s EVERY day. Despite their clear distinction in EVERY post.
Go to a Walmart or a McDonald’s for a good dose of humanity. There is no betterment at this juncture.
Those places are like a Shangri-La relative to a harris “event.”
Walmart and McDonalds are an improvement over those who run our country.
Not really, more for entertainment and the reading of it in the hope of education. Stuff like new ideas, vocabulary development and other gleaning create the interactive discourse prolly.
efromme- the 1st amendment is mainly to protect us from the Government, at any level from suppressing free speech. However it has been useful in person to person to be able to enter the marketplace of ideas so free speech is more than just protection from the government. The Supreme Court has backed that up, to an extent, by protecting certain individuals from being sued for libel or slander because it might impact free speech even if not a government representative. That, in itself, says that free speech is more than just protection from the government because it protects journalists from being sued for libel when free speech is used against a public personality. (Sullivan vs NT Times). So in effect we have expanded free speech to everyone over 200 years, which I think is correct.
You still have to be responsible for what you say and make sure your facts are straight but you should never have to hold your tongue. It helps to start off with “in my opinion”, “I see this question in a different light”.
I virtually never held my tongue and sometimes that caused me trouble but I never got sued because I usually had my facts straight. I would advocate for university students to develop a strong constitution and a loud voice. Better to be thought a pain in the ass than some meek mouse who scurries for cover at the sound of disagreement.
Well put GEB.
😂 civility? People have gone into state assemblies, in a closed room with megaphones. Rappers are enjoyable. I wonder what causes that speech pattern? Too much Dr. Seuss perhaps.
Good post.
BUT, none other than Orwell directs do NOT say – “In my opinion” – what you say should be presumed to be your opinion.
If you are so insecure that you need to undermine your own remarks at the start – then maybe what you have to say is not important enough to say. If you think what you have to say is important enough to say – you diminish that importance by adding “”in my opinion”.
Most of us do not understand the importance of free speech – and freedom generally.
This is relevant because it factors in even to the realm outside of government.
Freedom, and free speech particularly is the means by which we test ideas – BEFORE we invest heavily in them.
It does not matter whether those are ideas about politics or heatlhcare or farming or building structures.
Most of us do not understand how common failure is. In so many things we fail far more than we succeed. But the benefits of success usually outweigh the cost of many failures.
Freedom assures us of the opportunity to fail – and learn and thereby eventually succeed.
One of the greatest lessons that Elon Musk and SpaceX are teaching us all is the tremendous importance of failure.
But we seek a balance – if we play it safe – we do not fail, and we do not succeed. And the laws of entropy say that treading water is just drowning slowly.
If we fail too frequently we eventually fail completely.
It is freedom that gives us the ability to take the chances that are necessary to succeed.
But it is free speech that helps us to weed out some failures before they happen and to test our ideas mentally before we test them at potentially great expense in the real world.
As JS Mill noted – until you have heard the criticism of your ideas from the best of those most strongly opposed – you will not truly know your own ideas.
And why does this all matter ? Because our rising standard of living is the consequence of the freedom to try and often to fail.
But the efficiency of that process – the driving force that improves our odds of success with each attempt is free speech.
One of the most solid correlations in economics is that between standard of living and freedom.
It is so strong that it is implied in many of the laws of economics.
The laws of supply and demand presume that buyers and sellers make their choices freely.
Coases law paraphrased is that with a government that protects property rights the more free the market is the more optimally it will solve any problem.
If the movement is winning, it’s doing so with the help of both the left and the right. While there are many examples of conservative speech being suppressed, conservatives waste no time in suppressing speech they disagree with also. The prime example is the pro-Palestinian protesters — the vast majority of whom are peacefully protesting genocide in Gaza. They are being smeared as being “anti-Semitic (even though a huge number of them are themselves Jewish) and are being attacked and arrested for their speech and views. The irony is, of course, that they are the same students who would deny conservatives a platform. So, there is no left-right divide on this issue. Let’s look further — and higher — to see exactly who’s benefiting from shutting down free speech.
conservatives waste no time in suppressing speech they disagree with also. The prime example is the pro-Palestinian protesters — the vast majority of whom are peacefully protesting genocide in Gaza.
That is a pathetic lie GioCon. What was your motivation for telling that lie?
Where do you claim you have a constitutional right to riot, assault police in Union Square, burn other peoples’ property, trespass, and prevent Jewish students from attending classes to be legitimate free speech?
And when they’re being arrested for criminal offenses in California, New York, Michigan, etc… you want to try the BS they’re being arrested (and actually charged sometimes) by “conservatives”??? When did Democrat ruled states and cities suddenly become ‘conservatives’ for the purposes of your argument?
At best – AT BEST – that is civil disobedience, not free speech. And the consequences of choosing to commit civil disobedience as opposed to protesting legally is being arrested and tried for those offenses.
They are being smeared as being “anti-Semitic (even though a huge number of them are themselves Jewish) and are being attacked and arrested for their speech and views.
Which lie do we start with? Smeared as being anti-Semitic? When they’re howling “From The River To The Sea” – you’re confused at what that means?
How about “a huge number of them are themselves Jewish”. What’s a “huge number”? 30%? 40%? They’re willing tokens for the cause.
They’re the equivalent of Liz Cheney as an actual Republican who just finds herself suddenly siding with Nancy Pelosi that Trump planned and executed an insurrection. Or if you prefer, Nicole Wallace who enthusiastically campaigned for GOP candidates for president, served in the Bush administration – and suddenly realizes the Republican party she served has gone evil and she must work for the rest of her life exposing that evil.
The ol’ “Please believe me instead of your own lying eyes” arguments are beyond old.
Hear, hear, old dog!
I want to hear from the pro-Palestinians in Michigan. Those are the truly suppressed voices.
and are being attacked and arrested for their speech and views.
They were arrested for defacing property, trespassing, and interfering with the arrests of others. NOT ONE PERSON arrested for their speech or their views. NOT ONE. Are you a pathological liar, or just a plain one?
Are you compltely clueless, or just pretend to be? Or do you enjoy just making shit up?
Or this
huge number of them are themselves Jewish
Really??? What number would that be, spastic?? What percentage?? Just make shit up. The truth isn’t good enough, is it.
They are being smeared as being “anti-Semitic”
“From the River to the Sea” isn’t anti-Semitic. Nor is “death to Israel” . Spastic idiot. You have to be this stupid on purpose, it cannot be an accident.
GioCon – allegedly smearing someone is both a matter of opinion and itself an act of free speech.
When we are discussing things like rights and freedom – it is important that we use words clearly.
What does “Attack” mean ? One of the things the survey Turley refered to was equating works with actual violence.
I will “attack” the pro-hamas protestors – meaning speak out against them and their stupidity.
So long as they are actually peaceful I will not use or condone the use of force against them.
So your example of alleged conservative constraints to free speech FAILS.
That does not mean there conservatives support absolute free speech in all contexts.
Do you read the SPAM in your inbox ? Do you use tools to filter out and block spam ?
Do you want children to be exposed to explicit sexual content ?
Do you support removing those that shutdown scheduled speakers ?
“This is the issue of this election: Whether we believe in our capacity for self-government or whether we abandon the American revolution and confess that a little intellectual elite in a far-distant capitol can plan our lives for us better than we can plan them ourselves.
You and I are told increasingly we have to choose between a left or right. Well I’d like to suggest there is no such thing as a left or right. There’s only an up or down – [up] man’s old-aged dream, the ultimate in individual freedom consistent with law and order, or down to the ant heap of totalitarianism. And regardless of their sincerity, their humanitarian motives, those who would trade our freedom for security have embarked on this downward course.”
Ronald Reagan 1964.
The objective is the ultimate in individual freedom consistent with law and order.
What is often called “ordered liberty”
To be clear the goal is NOT order – it is liberty. The problem is that absolute freedom is ultimately anarchy and no freedom at all.
Has the right posed a threat to freedom in the past – absolutely.
Though just as today, the threat of the right is always tiny compared to the left.
Cite me a historical example of the restriction of liberty by the right – and I will counter with a dozen much worse from the left.
GioCon – I will personally stand up for the rights to free speech for the most vile of the ProHamas protesters.
If you can find a single one that was arrested for free speech – I will contribute to their defense. I will bet that none other than Alan Derschowitz will take their case pro bono.
Absolutely plenty of people – including myself take great offense at what they are saying – and I will respond with my own Words – calling them terrorists, and antisemitic, and protesting against them. But none of that is an infringement on their right to free speech.
Short of shouting you down at your own event – my free speech does not come at the expense of yours.
My criticism of you or your exercise of your free speech is NOT an attack on your free speech.
You are making the same stupid error that those who idiotically equate speech they do not like with violence.
I am free to malign proHamas protestors. You are free to malign J6 protestors.
That is free speech.
As a general rule those who destroy property that is not their own, those who engage in actual violence, are criminals – regardless of their cause.
There are very few instances in which violence is justified.
defense of yourself or others from immediate violence.
Against a government that is illegitimately using force to infringe on the rights of citizens.
Protesting the actions of a government 3000 miles away is not one of those.
Giocom, the ignorance you display is appalling.
“anti-Semitic (even though a huge number of them are themselves Jewish)”
Jews can be anti-Semitic. That you cannot recognize that demonstrates a lack of intellect. It must be difficult for you to add 1+1 and end up with 2.
” peacefully protesting genocide in Gaza.”
If you wish to be known as ignorant and say genocide is occurring within a growing population, do so. It demonstrates stupidity, but we know you don’t care how dumb you sound. You are one of those who hide behind your children to save your worthless life.
“the vast majority of whom are peacefully protesting genocide in Gaza.”
Peaceful protest is a misnomer when those protesting in public areas forcibly prevent others from legally being there. Of course, you believe that the calling for genocide of the Jews is peaceful. You are a Nazi and are likely getting a lot of pleasure from being called a Nazi. It beats being told that you are impotent.
“Jews can be anti-Semitic.”
That is correct. I once worked for a Jewish businessman who was an elder of his synagogue, but who was strongly opposed to the creation of Israel as a Jewish state, on principle. However, there is no shortage of proponents of Israel who deliberately and disingenuously conflate anti-Zionism with hating Jews (and even Nazism). I suspect that is the thought the OP sought to convey.
Anti-Semitism comes in many forms. In the early days, it was the Jewish religion. In the 20th century, it was that Jews existed and had to be exterminated. Today, anti-Semitism is reflected in the hatred of the state of Israel. Jews were hated for being too rich and too poor, too exclusive and also not inclusive enough. There is more, but you get the point. The one thing that stands out in anti-Semitism is the irrational behavior of anti-Semites.
Yes, some people don’t want Israel to exist. There is even one sect of Judaism that believes that. However, there is one characteristic that defines anti-Semitism: irrationality. Today, most of the anti-Semites express themselves by hating Israel. That is only the most recent form of anti-Semitism existing.
Of course, some anti-Semites are stupid followers who don’t know what they are talking about. When a person demonstrates anti-Semitism against Israel, saying they are committing genocide but cannot point anywhere else like Sudan where genocide is taking place, that is based on stupidity, anti-Semitism or both. When a person says Israel is committing genocide against Gazans where the Gazan population is increasing, and almost all civilians die because of the terrorists, that is also anti-Semitism, stupidity or both.
Your comment to exclude the hatred of Israel as anti-Semitism is also likely to be anti-Semitism. If you wish to argue differently, do so intelligently. Also, stand by your words by using a name.
“…believe that speech can be as damaging as physical violence.” Let’s test that theory on a group of college experts, you know…students and administration – the same people who refuse to live in Realville, USA. One group will call the other’s hair “ugly”, while the second group yanks out handfuls of the first group’s by the roots.
These anti-free speech efforts in the US are becoming eerily similar to what the Chinese communist party has done to the citizens of Hong Kong. American academicians and the American media, along with their corporate and government enablers, should tread very carefully along their road to erode American’s god-given right to speak freely in any context, whether it be speech challenging the Government or speech challenging fellow citizens (or non-citizens). Otherwise, all the CCP needs to do is sit back and be patient while their efforts to become the single dominant superpower in the world, including domination of the US, is enabled from within.
All these idiots who are in favor of banning free speech are3 leading us into very dangerous territories. They know not of what they speak. Once our freedom of speech, ALL SPEECH, is gone, so are the rest of our freedoms. Be very careful what you wish for.
JT says “it is in my view the most dangerous movement in our history”
Yep, Jan 6, 2021 was just a walk in the park (only 3 dead directly, several more indirectly in the months after Jan 6) . The Civil War in the 1860s was a neighborly disagreement (only 650,000 to 750,000 people died). No hyperbole here.
The context he lays out is that there have been the several movements in American history to convince the public to restrict your natural human right to free expression. In Turley’s view, this movement is the worst because so many in government, academia, corporations, and media are aligned in their desire to restrict free expression.
If you want to make smug and snotty comments, your smug and snotty comments should be on point.
Does free speech include government officials lying about elections? Such as trump, as president, lying about the integrity of our election? His lying about fraud has convinced a lot of people about something that has no basis in facts. in 2020 trump was so upset about losing he told Georgia to not bother voting for Senator, the result? Surprise, surprise a Democrat won in a state that the Repo was supposed to win.
So government is bad if they try to label speech that is clearly false. But the president can lie his ass off and that is just fine?
CLEARLY FALSE according to who?
Joe Biden lied 61 times at the debate. Is that the government you want arbitrating the truth?
Spastic idiot.
Lying? Yes, it’s part of free speech unless you’re under oath or ethics and morality are considered. Government officials are under oath methinks.
Yep, Jan 6, 2021 was just a walk in the park (only 3 dead directly,
Well, thats a fvcking lie. Any more hyperbole you’d like to share?
two people died of a heart attack on the day of the attack. One woman was shot as she was crawling through a window into the House chamber. Is something not correct about those “facts”?
6592 people died of a heart attack that day, you fvcking imbecile. so what?
How many died in the summer of love?
So glad to see the juvenile insults. Your orange Felon god must be so happy.
A sure fire way to bring millions of new votes to a losing party, the trump Felon party.
^^^Look at the spastic idiot insult people while claiming others insults are juvenile.
orange Felon god
How many times have you uttered that sophisticated phrase here, Lawn Boy?
Booger eating troll pretending to be another newcomer today. LMAO outed everyday. Bwahahahahaha
Your nephew called Elvis Bug face. He says that the syphillis test came back negative so you are in the clear. He wants to know why you won’t return his calls since the condom breaking incident.
“orange Felon god”
Let’s see…
He has an orange glow on his skin.
He has been convicted of 34 felonies.
He is Treated as a god by his cult followers.
So yea, I’d say orange Felon god describes him pretty good.
You arent speaking to him. And I doubt you’d have the balls to say it to him face to face. But we know you are sackless, so no surprise you come here to do it.
You’re insulting the people on this blog. Which is your intent. In a most juvenile manner.
And then being a hypocrite by calling out “juvenile” insults.
Lets see
You’re a drunk
you eat boogers
You cornhole your nephew
You delight in juvenile insults
you can’t get even simple facts straight
So yea, I’d say that describes you pretty good. so, not an insult.
Here’s the thing that trump cult members don’t seem to understand.
The Jan 6 insurrection was an attempt to keep in power the person that had just lost an election.
The protests in the “summer of love” were all about mistreatment of black and brown people by the police.
One of those two items has a legitimate basis for protesting, the other was a protest based on the lie of voter fraud.
But I am not the least surprised that trump cult members don’t get this. In 2016 trump was openly misogynistic and he got elected. He thought oh heck, let the hair down, I’ll show them how a real racist should act in 2024. So he is now openly racist. So your comparison of Jan 6 to protests about black and brown people having disparate treatment is a testament to your racism. Your cult leader is so proud of him. Openly show how racist you are just like he is. A sure way to win elections in 2024.
You sound like Svelaz George, with the mansplaining. LMAO
And I love how you try to imply that discussions here will somehow impact the election.
TEN POINT SWING since 2020. Trump could “shoot someone on 5th Ave” and still win.
sux to be you Lawn Boy, but denial is not going to help.
Its been a bad 2 months hasnt it, what with the SCOTUS rulings, the debate, the coup, and Trump still walking around free?
How’s that un-air conditioned jail cell you had waiting for him in Georgia looking these days?
Yea, we remember ALL of your brilliant prognostications, drunktard. Add this racist crap to the list.
Have another sip.
It’s called a nexus in time. The other 6000 + heart attacks were had no connection with Jan 6.
“The other 6000 + heart attacks were had no connection with Jan 6.”
How do you know? Just makin’ shit up. They happened on Jan 6th. Same connection.
And neither did the “two” you mentioned, one of which wasn’t even a heart attack. But thats not importatnt either, is it stooge?
How many heart attacks in the summer of love, stooge?
The connection is the people at the riot had heart attacks …heart attack+attendance+Jan 6 time. Who, what, when,where, how…
Thank you
“the people at the riot had heart attacks”
What “people”? Will you keep doubling down on stupid?
Name them. The Trump supporters?
Name them.
I was at a baseball game last summer and a man in the crowd had a heart attack. I was at mass 2 months ago and a man there had a heart attack. I was in a McDonalds 6 months ago and a dude dropped dead.
Do you even care how stupid you look?
Spastic idiot.
Conclusion: Roman Catholic baseball fans shouldn’t eat cheap, greasy burgers and fries, right?
*were*
You cant even get the simple facts straight. The window was not “into the House Chamber”. Hyperbole much?
So, yea, NOTHING you said was correct. NOTHING
Sorry my mistake…
Babbitt’s attempt to climb through a shattered window beside a barricaded door into the Speaker’s Lobby was thwarted when she was shot in the left shoulder by a United States Capitol Police (USCP) officer.
Thanks for pointing out where she was shot.
You’re welcome.
Thanks for getting your facts straight for once. Too bad you had to be corrected for the 1000th time.
Thank you, Wittgenstein!
You’re welcome again, Stoogemeister
Anonymous 10:28am- The medical examiner said she was shot in the left shoulder which is a very indistinct description of a wound . If the wound was closer to the upper left chest or in the upper left chest, you might still say shoulder but likely the cause of death was massive bleeding from a laceration to the artery running from the left subclavian artery to the artery in the upper part of the left arm. Those arteries are large. She died rather quickly which suggests massive bleeding and hypovolemic shock. That is not a very comprehensive or complete description of a cause of death. As a physician I would have demanded more.
Glad you put “facts” in quotations.
You mean Ashley was not shot while going through a window in the Capitol Building? Is this not true?
OK, stupid ass, pretend you didn’t lie. Its a good look.
Are you saying Ashley was not shot in the Capitol Building?
LMAO whats next…”Are you saying Ashley was not shot?”
I am saying you are an ignorant stooge and useful idiot. Are we clear? Are we clear?? (Crystal)
And that Ashley was not “shot as she was crawling through a window into the House chamber.”
Proof that you’re an ignorant stooge. Doubling down on your stupidity…thats on you. Bwahahahahaha
Sicknick died from stroke, you imbecile.
Do you know ANYTHING about Jan 6th? So far you have spewed 4 different falsehoods.
You have come to the wrong place if you want to spew lies and ignorance.
How many dead from the summer of love, douchebag spastic idiot?
“douchebag spastic idiot?”
You clearly have issues, see a therapist.
He can’t be helped. They dont have a cure for douchebag spastic idiots
Your issue is lying. And inability too answer a simple question. DSI
hey, HEY! You’re still drunk. Come back in a couple hours.
How many dead from the summer of love, spastic?
Just make your point or make a bloddy mary or stfu, those are your 3 choices you boring sot.
Whats a bloddy mary?
Vodka, tomato juice, worsterschire sauce, tobacco and celery stalk. Twist of lemon. You can add a skewer of other fruits and cooked prawns …
Funny, that sounds like a bloody mary, not a bloddy mary.
What kind of tobacco?? Never heard of that one.
Is English your second language?
Poor baby cant answer the question. Have another sip, drunktard.
How many dead from the summer of love, spastic?
When their oppressive laws are used against them to their fullest extent, they’ll get the fair for one fair for all bug.
Does the right have the courage to exact the prescription to cure the sickness?
Yep, Jan 6, 2021 was just a walk in the park (only 3 dead directly, several more indirectly in the months after Jan 6). No hyperbole here.
No, no lying by insinuation, memory hole (hopefully) and hyperbole.
Yup, a non-threatening trespasser murdered at point blank range by a cop (who luckily didn’t also hit the tactical team standing within touching distance behind her). One medical death from a heart attack. And one injured in the crowd who Capitol Police obstructed being taken to medical care for treatment. I’m surprised you didn’t repeat the Biden/Harris lie that six police were murdered!
Yep, American history is a blank between Jan 6 and the Civil War. There weren’t MONTHS of Mostly Peaceful Democrat Rioting, Pillaging, Looting, Burning And Murder across the country carried out by the Democrats street thugs in Black Liars & Marxists and Antifa. Over 30 MURDERED in those riots – including multiple police officers. 540+ riots, federal buildings torched, police stations occupied, city blocks occupied by force of Evil Baby Killer AR-15 arms, damage totaling more than Hurricane Katrina.
But apparently you believe America has a Memory Hole blank of anything that went on during the year prior to January 6th.
Round Heels Harris hopes (like you) that people forget: she told Americans the Democrats rioting, pillaging, looting and burning weren’t going to stop, and said that they shouldn’t stop.
“Everyone beware. They’re not gonna stop before election day in November, and they’re not gonna stop after election day … They’re not gonna let up, and they should not.”
You cowards post anonymously, because you’d prefer to be anonymous where you can’t be held accountable for your lies and hyperbole.
Signed,
Old Airborne Dog
Decrepit Rabid Dog is proud of his ridiculous, stupid, or ignorant staements.
Reagan up dated for the 21st Century:
I’m from the Government and I’m here to tell you what you can and cannot say
Blinken issued a strongly worded statement. This means that Maduro will be stepping down soon.
Or, you should mind your own fvcking business. How about that, Blinken?
How many votes were cast for Anthony Blinken, in any election, anywhere??
At least 4 of the 7 Fed Reserve Bd members??
And how many of them were elected?
Bwahahahaha you low IQ people never see it coming.
I’d love to see Maduro resign. Or be shot, whatever. But that certainly won’t happen because some powerless, discredited, poofter boy in an increasingly powerless administration with rapidly diminishing world-wide influence issued a statement (a statement that thus far appears to be backed up by absolutely zero potential action) that his opponent won.
1930’s Germany voted for Fascism like what the democrats do! Wait at least the German leaders loved their country
US Democrats HATE America…except the money!
It is unbelievable that you can actually believe what you write. Unbelievable because trump is the master at doing what he accuses others of doing. And you have swallowed the kool aid.
Fascism – (sometimes initial capital letter) a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.
This is the very definition of what the party formerly known as Republican has become. It is now the trump party hook, line, and sinker. trump was openly misogynistic in 2016, hasn’t changed, he became openly racist and that was on full display with Harris. trump has openly mocked everyone, everyone, even those that serve him. He rants about he is the only one that can solve any problem in the world. According to him, everyone bows down to him. The only people that bow down to him are his cult followers.
trump won in 2016 despite being a misogynistic A hole, Let’s see how he does with his openly racist rants in 2024.
What do you call “a governmental system led by a puppet having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, education, media, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive globalism and often racism.”
What’s that wondrous thing called?
“trump won in 2016 despite being a misogynistic A hole, Let’s see how he does with his openly racist rants in 2024.”
Which one are you whoopi or the jewish-dingbat or the barbie?
PS: rather have racist rants than racist policies, which are what you get from obammabidenharris
If you don’t vote for me, you aint black
He’s the first bright, clean, articulate, 14 in mainstream politics
To own a hotel or 7-11, ya gotta have an Indian accent
I dont want my kids going to school in a racial jungle
Latinos resist vaccinations because they’re afraid they will be deported
Blacks resist the vaccine because of the Tuskeegee Airmen
The Senate is lesser without (KKK) Robert Byrd
Gee, who was that?
Spastic Idiot.
good point, obammabienharris have racist rant AND racist policies, a twofer if you will.
TEN POINT SWING from 2020
Its the economy/border/national security/crime, stupid.
Unbelievable because trump is the master at doing what he accuses others of doing. And you have swallowed the kool aid.
Racist? Yep, it was Trump who was openly racist back in the 1970’s when he told Americans he didn’t want his pure blood white children infected in schools allowing Jungle Bunnies into classrooms. It was Trump who got his political start as a whore for the Kluxxers in the Democrat party.
It was Trump that was openly racist 30+ years later when he told Americans he had not met one single Black Boy in Washington DC politics who was neatly dressed, clean, polite, and well spoken. Not a single one until he met a mulatto who renounced his 40 years lived in Wealthy White Privilege to embrace his po’ black chil’ raised in a ghetto side to run for political office.
And of course it was Trump who just four years ago in 2020 who told those Black Boys in America that if they didn’t vote for him, they couldn’t be black. And a couple of years later, told America’s Black Boys that they were too stupid to figure out how to get ID acceptable for voter registration – so ol’ Massah would use the president’s office to strip voter ID requirements from states so the Black Boys could vote.
Misogyny? Nothing says you’re a depraved misogynist more than using the president’s office as an old perverted white guy to force American women to accept men cosplaying as women into their change rooms to put their wedding tackle on display to little girls. Nothing says misogynist more than using government power to force women to accept men competing against them in sports.
It’s ridiculous bald faced lies like these which explains why these pathetic cowards never provide a username that can identify them with their posts.
Signed – you pathetic Anonymous coward:
Old Airborne Dog
True that.
Turley has an interested take “free speech”. Banning books is ok, forcing doctors to lie to patients is ok, banning teachers from even mentioning LGBT is ok. Being criticizes for lying is a free speech violation.
Also: Count for book links in this post is 3.
Oy vey, here come the sexual deviants complaining that not being able to corrupt children is a free speech violation.
The sexualization of children is immoral.
The removal of healthy organs from children is immoral.
Prescribing puberty blockers to children is immoral.
Protecting children’s innocence is a moral imperative by all, except woke leftists, sexual deviants, pedos, groomers.
Protecting children’s innocence is a moral imperative by all…
Except Islam
This is the kind of thing we are fighting for, Hospital Reviews Gender Care After Therapist Blows the Whistle
https://www.thefp.com/p/hospital-reviews-gender-care-after
I am sure this upsets you.
Here is something else we fight for, Women’s Rights.
‘It’s Not Fair! It’s Not Fair!’
https://www.thefp.com/p/women-boxing-olympics
Sammy showed up with one of the favorite Soviet Democrat Marxist Useful Idiot lies: “Book Banning is okay”.
Sammy wants Hustler Magazine in school libraries for prepubescent children to see! Kids need to see pages of crotch shots with gaping wet vaginas! Sammy gives that magazine to her kiddies at home – great teaching aid for teaching “Reproductive rights”.
Or perhaps something a little different – a comic book style version of porn like ‘Gender Queer’ – where those same kids can instead see panels depicting prepubescent boys giving each other blow jobs. Great teaching aid for teaching Alphabet Sex Pride Tribe sexuality!
Normal Americans think American parents should have control over unionized school teachers wanting to put graphic porn in school libraries, claiming it’s for the kiddies’ education – not to groom them.
Sammy, you can buy Hustler Magazine, Gender Queer, or any of that other porn pretty much everywhere in America. There is no “book ban” – which is why nobody ever provides a link to the books supposedly banned for sale in America. You can buy that porn, take it straight home to your little kiddies, and go through it with them, panel by panel.
You can be a pervert parent in your own home – but you need a better argument for why you want to put the porn you give to your children in front of other peoples’ children.
Do the words “age appropriate” mean anything in the Soviet Democrat universe Marxist Useful Idiots live in?
Here is something we fight against, FDA knew ‘gender affirming’ puberty blockers increase ‘suicidality’ in 2017, promotes them today
“Safety review” by Division of Metabolism and Endocrinology Products contradicts narrative promoted by HHS’s Rachel Levine, FDA’s child health and endocrinology leaders. Insurance coverage invoked to justify approval for “gender transition.”
https://justthenews.com/government/federal-agencies/fda-knew-gender-affirming-puberty-blockers-increase-suicidality-2017
Democrat party, the party of death.
Free speech. Doesnt the 1st Amendment protect an inidivdauls’ speech vis-a-vis the Governments – local, state federal. The poll, as I understand it, focus’s on person-to-person speech. In other words, people really do not understand what free speech is. Am I right?
It’s brain development in humans. Humans have a speech center in the brain setting humans apart from all other living organisms.
The framers knew this. Freedom of speech and press follows human development. People first listen as babies and children. Then they learn to speak, read and write in that order.
Speech is god given in the sense of creation and evolution. Strokes can remove the normal functioning of that brain center. The government and the citizens are either espousing strokes for people or lobotomies.
Government created brain damage.
Listening and speaking are fundamental while press as reading and writing are man-made.
Vocabulary is crucial because with words come concepts and ideas.
The purpose of free speech and press is the advancement of civilization.
“Government created brain damage.”
No literally true, but it has massively and deliberately exacerbated it.