It appears that the Harris-Walz campaign to embrace “joy” has taken hold among educators in L.A. The Los Angeles Unified School District (LAUSD) voted 4-3 to allow 10 schools to opt out of standardized tests and test preparation beginning in the 2025-26 school year. LAUSD President Jackie Goldberg declared the move was a blow to “corporate America” and would restore the “enjoyment of education.”
We have previously discussed how schools have been dropping the use of standardized tests to achieve diversity goals in admissions. That trend continued this month with Cal State dropping standardized testing “to level the playing field” for minority students. I have long been a critic of this movement given the overwhelming evidence that these tests allow an objective measure of academic merit and have great predictive value on the performance of students.
Many colleges and universities are returning to standardized testing after the much-acclaimed abandonment of the tests for a more “holistic approach” to selection.
However, public educators have continued to lower proficiency requirements and cancel gifted programs to “even the playing field.” The result has been to further hide the dismal scores and educational standards of many public school districts.
Goldberg lashed out at the “testing industry” which tends to expose the continued failure of public education to give these students a fighting chance in society. Rather than look at their own failures over decades to significantly improve scores, Goldberg said that she “hoped” the resolution would “begin to change how we look at student assessment.” In other words, students would be assessed without looking at how they actually perform on tests with other students.
Tests, it appears, are just a buzz kill for teachers and students alike: “Because the whole goal of life became not the love of learning, not the enjoyment of education, not the exchange of ideas, but whether or not your school could move up on its test scores. For at least 20 years, I have found that repugnant.”
It shows, Ms. Goldberg, it shows.
The retiring Goldberg has always been more focused on increasing budgets than improving scores. Her website declares
“California is the world’s fifth richest economy. There are 157 billionaires here who pay almost nothing in taxes. There is no excuse for why New York spends $29k per pupil while we spend $16.5k. It’s time to tax the great wealth in this state and re-invest in our children!”
That appears to be one statistical score that Goldberg does find relevant as a measure of education.
Others at the meeting noted that they have falling enrollments and this will not help.
I previously wrote about how public educators and teacher unions are killing public education in America. Many of us have advocated for public education for decades. I sent my children to public schools, and I still hope we can turn this around without wholesale voucher systems.
Teachers and boards are killing the institution of public education by treating children and parents more like captives than consumers. They are force-feeding social and political priorities, including passes for engaging in approved protests.
As public schools continue to produce abysmal scores, particularly for minority students, board and union officials have called for lowering or suspending proficiency standards or declared meritocracy to be a form of “white supremacy.” Gifted and talented programs are being eliminated in the name of “equity.”
Once parents have a choice, these teachers lose a virtual monopoly over many families, and these districts could lose billions in states like Florida.
This is precisely why school systems are facing budget shortfalls as families vote with their feet. These families want a return to the educational mission that once defined our schools.
L.A. will pursue a program under which they appoint a “lead teacher” for additional professional development from Community School Coaches and the University of California Los Angeles Center for Community Schooling. They will focus on an effort to “integrate culturally relevant curriculum, community- and project-based learning, and civic engagement” into their programs. The “relevant” curriculum would not include actual standardized testing.
I don’t see Repos rushing to this poor kids defense. He was just following right wing propaganda to arm himself. What’s the big deal
https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/16/us/florida-11-year-old-arrested-school-shooting-threat/index.html
Who is Ryan Routh? A possible CIA asset?
From ZeroHedge:
Would-Be Trump Assassin Palled Around With Neo-Nazi Azov Brigade In Ukraine: What Did The
Government Know?
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/would-be-trump-assassin-palled-around-neo-nazi-azov-brigade-ukraine-what-did
“Among the more bizarre aspects to his campaigning on behalf of the
Ukrainian military’s foreign legion were his efforts to recruit US-trained
Afghan special soldiers to go to Ukraine’s front lines. The initiative
appeared so large in scale (given Routh was seeking to transfer hundreds,
or even thousands, of Afghan fighters – according to his words) – that one
commentator questions in light of the attempted assassination of Donald
Trump: ‘Who was he working with in the US government that was
allowing him to do this?'”
He’s a left wing nut, nothing more, nothing less. Getting ready to spend the rest of his miserable life in Leavenworth prison.
“He’s a left wing nut, nothing more”
Except he was apparently a “right wing nut” long before that. Obviously the “nut” part is correct, little question he is mentally and/or emotionally way off balance. OTOH, given their despicable record, that is exactly the kind of manipulable and expendable individual I would expect the CIA to try to recruit for an assassination attempt, foreign or domestic.
Bounty hunters have to make a living too. Of course for “Educational Enjoyment”.
Private schools lack the state testing requirements of public schools. So, for anyone who supports vouchers for private schools but also agrees with Turley here, how do you reconcile the conflict?
If a parent can use state funds to enroll in a private school without state testing requirements, is it no different from a public school eschewing standarized testing for feelings?
When the parents see their children are learning and growing, you don’t need a test. But these kids aren’t learning so they don’t want tests to prove it. Our tax $$ should follow the children to get the best education possible. It could be in public, private, charter, home school, pods…..
Do you want a say in how your tax dollars are spent? Charter school boards are selected, not elected.
Should tax dollars, through charter schools, for example, be spent promoting minor league sports teams, on museum sponsorships, on gift cards, or even providing equipment/textbooks every year to every student even if a family has already had kids go through that same grade and already have textbooks/equipment for those grades/subjects?
Private schools are opt-in choices, which are regulated through market (e.g. democrati: mom, dad) forces, without union and other monopolistic special interest distortions.
“Private schools lack the state testing requirements . . .”
Your deception is limitless.
You smuggled in the premise: Without government-mandated testing, there is no testing. (Which, by the way, is false. Private schools routinely administer, for example, the ACT, PSAT, SAT. And they administer subject-area testing throughout their curricula.)
Indeed, the L.A. School District is not in America.
How dare anyone say anyone is a threat to democracy, trump yells, as he says the Demos are a threat to democracy.
“Their rhetoric is causing me to be shot at, when I am the one who is going to save the country, and they are the ones that are destroying the country — both from the inside and out,” Trump told Fox News Digital on Monday.
Does the guy even know what he says at this point?
A threat to the republic, collusion, assault, and exercise of liberal license to indulge abortive ideation… human rites with Mengele Dreams and a prideful parade of albinophobia.
It sounds accurate.
Do you? BTW, you’re off topic again. Screaming at Trump from a blog is truly a sign of delusion you leftist loonie.
Yes, Trump knows what he says.For example, citizens of Springfield can be found on video reporting the problems they are facing from the Biden/Harris administration secretly sending 20,000 Hatians into their small community. Long time residents are getting kicked out of rentals because the government is subsidizing rent for these “protected” people and rentals bring in more money from Hatian renters. Hatians are given driver licenses even when they don’t know how to drive! They drive into buildings, homes, and flip cars over in mid-street. Last week, a Hatian killed a woman who was simply taking out her trash can to the curb. Hatians are over-whelming medical care, schools and all public services; causing US taxpaying citizens and veterans to wait many month for their benifits. WITNESSES and VIDEOS SHOW HATIANS HAVE KILLED PET CATS, DOGS, and GEESE from the city park. Why do “news anchors” call reports “false” when they have not investigated the citizen’s allegations? Ask yourself why aren’t Hatians held accountable? Why are citizens “hushed” when they report their concerns to their city council, mayor, or sherriff? I”m guessing bribery, no-bid contracts and payoffs. How many years have these TV anchors been making multi-millions just to read us the news? That’s a cushy job no one except a moral and brave person would want to give up for telling the truth.
Democrat-alligned news readers (aka “anchors”), who allege they are “journalists”, have been INCITING HATRED for Trump for over 7 years. They say he is evil, a threat to Democracy, a wantabe dictator, Hitler, and an “existential threat to our democracy”. They have stired the pot until the unhinged feel they must kill him.Tell me please, what evidence to they present when they make these charges? NONE. Now, they will lie and blame TRUMP for what the current administration has done, but it’s all GASLIGHTING. Listen for EVIDENCE he is any of these things….you will find none.
In too many places Teaching is too important to be left to teachers only. If Doctors can be held accountable for their actions and results then so can teachers since they are there every day teaching the children. And unless blind, they should be able to asses and appropriately act where the problems are. And yet here we are with lousy results. Children are still children and can be led down an appropriate path with effective teaching and supervision. That would suggest it’s not the kids. When you have such poor results from a system then it would appear it’s time to change the system and the people. Mass firings should follow quickly. Start over with fundamentals, no politics, no DEI, no critical race theory, no trans pushing. Teach and let the parents deal with the children out of class. Teachers teach and parents parent. Try it. It might surprise you.
* let’s not forget little 6 year old BB and her handholding pod people and all lives matter being punished by removing her ability to move around and draw pictures. Definite lock down and her parents received threats until they moved.
Yeah, it’s not the clientele…
I thought Jan 6 was a walk in the park? A happy day where everyone had smiles on their faces.
Here is account of an assault at the Capitol Grounds.
“Grabbing my press pass, they saw that my ID said The New York Times and became really angry. They threw me to the floor, trying to take my cameras. I started screaming for help as loudly as I could. No one came. People just watched,” she wrote, referring to other rioters in the Capitol.
2 arrests have been made. Hopefully they will serve a long time for their felonies. Perhaps they can have daily lunches with DJT.
I started screaming for help as loudly as I could. No one came. People just watched,
Wait, that has to be a lie, I thought all those racist, misogynistic people were the friendliest people on earth. You mean those trump supporters watched a woman being assaulted and did not offer help?
“watched a woman being assaulted and did not offer help”
LMAO….said the mysoginist.
More leftist lies. They just make sh!t up. What a loonie.
People reacted in self-defense to officers’ assaults and even Capitol punishment. A Pelosi-rrection, and probable Whitmer conspiracy.
zzzzzzz
It’s all joy and equity until the need for competency comes knocking.
“WE THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES…SECURE THE BLESSINGS OF LIBERTY TO OURSELVES AND OUR POSTERITY.”
“BE IT ENACTED…THAT ANY ALIEN BEING A FREE WHITE PERSON…MAY BE ADMITTED TO BECOME A CITIZEN…AND MAKING PROOF…THAT HE IS A PERSON OF GOOD CHARACTER…
SUCH PERSON SHALL BE CONSIDERED AS A CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES.”
– THE AMERICAN FOUNDERS
This is very, very OT, but a while back someone posted a Tears For Fears song as a response and hoped to see them on tour; I remarked that they toured last year, I saw it, it was great. For that person: they have a forthcoming album that has four new tracks that are amazing, but also a full recording of a concert from that tour that was missed by that person. I don’t know the policy here for commercial links; this is strictly for informational purposes since this person missed out on a concert, I do not work for Tears For Fears or any distributor of their music, just a fan.
I would not be surprised if they tour again very soon, they said at the time when I saw them that they were a very much a revitalized band, the new material certainly backs that up, the show was amazing, and you can hear what we all got to see last time in 2023.
https://shop-us.tearsforfears.com/products/songs-for-a-nervous-planet-cd-tea
That was me James. Thanks so much
Waters
What kind of person makes an easily debunked claim that immigrants are eating people’s cats and dogs and then doubles down on it by saying they saw it on TV? An old person suffering from dementia, that’s who. Trump is mentally ill.
“What kind of person makes an easily debunked claim…”
Apparently a person rather like you?
https://abc7ny.com/long-island-animal-sacrifice-cemetery-union/14046546/
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/feds-city-to-crack-down-on-animal-sacrifices-in-nyc-s-jamaica-bay-after-dog-carcass-with-snapped-neck-wounded-pigs-found/ar-AA1qzuds
Amazing how people can disbelieve one think, yet consume another’s statements whole heartly…
…and that is what “free will” is called. Choose wisely!
Making stupid statements again? Do you ever listen to the statements made by Trump and Vance on this or do you just listen to the truncated sound bite from MSNBC? I live in Florida, illegal immigrants have been killing animals in sacrificial practices here for years. They worship Sheeba, I think it is called Santaria, the cartels use it as worship also. A hungry immigrant from a poor country that eats cats there is going to eat cats here too. Both men have repeatedly said they are responding to the complaints by their constituents. Biden Harris are just doing the same thing Obsma Biden did in Minnesota with the Somalias. Building race based districts that will vote the way they are told.
Game On!
Stating falsehoods and distortions again aye?
So first you say;
“What kind of person makes an easily debunked claim that immigrants are eating people’s cats and dogs and then doubles down on it by saying they saw it on TV? An old person suffering from dementia, that’s who. Trump is mentally ill.”
Then when clearly shown that this is indeed what is happening in other places beyond just Springfield, OH, your comeback is to double down by admitting you were stating falsehoods and distortions to begin with, as you stated;
“I live in Florida, illegal immigrants have been killing animals in sacrificial practices here for years. They worship Sheeba, I think it is called Santaria, the cartels use it as worship also. A hungry immigrant from a poor country that eats cats there is going to eat cats here too.”
Here’s Lester Holt performing essentially the same propaganda double-talk nonsense.
“Today’s apparent assassination attempt comes amid increasingly fierce rhetoric on the campaign trail. Mr. Trump, his running mate JD Vance, continue to make baseless claims about Haitian immigrants in Springfield, Ohio. This weekend, there were new bomb threats in that town,” “Holt said.”
The baseless claims as Holt refers, is being published by his own extreme leftist propaganda NBC media, and local news from many of their Democrat controlled media as cited earlier in the discussion.
Lester Holt’s own network at the same time he is denying the truth of the story. From NBC4 New York:
“Investigators made a disturbing discovery on Thursday, finding nearly two dozen farm animals inside a Jersey City apartment — and the U.S. Navy sailor who owns the unit believes the renter may have been conducting animal sacrifices there.”
“It was a wild scene as an animal service agent was seen carrying a goat down Van Horne Street, one of about “seven to nine” goats that were said to be found inside the three-bedroom rowhome. But that’s not all that was found.”
“About four or five dead chicken carcasses, their throats slashed and they were left in a pile,” said H. James Boor, of the Division of Environmental Health for Jersey City.”
“At least 22 farm animals were discovered after in the home after neighbors tipped off the department. Pictures from the scene show goats grazing the backyard, close to chicken carcasses; another photo shows a dead pigeon nailed above a door.”
https://www.nbcnews.com/video/22-farm-animals-found-in-new-jersey-home-owner-fears-renter-was-performing-religious-sacrifices-119121989811
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/22-farm-animals-found-in-jersey-city-home-owner-fears-renter-was-doing-animal-sacrifices/3232084/
Two peas in the same pod.
That’s not a falsehood, Miami area has had regular reports of carcasses being found. You should be able to find that easily. If you have ever traveled, go to a wet market. Central America Iguanas, Africa has an entire market for bush meat which includes exotic cat meat. Truth stings doesn’t it, Lester Holt is a deception not me. You may have not read correctly.
Oh for goodness sake, you’re correct.
Well, it made me go look up the double talk at NBC with what Holt was saying, and what their own local news outlet was saying both at the same time. So all is not wasted for me anyway. Good lesson here. I feel a bit like that Naval Captain that was just fired for the picture of him aiming a rifle with a backward mounted scope.
My bad, my apology.
Anonymous 👍same page!
Really, you think NBC news is a credible source? Gawd are you stoopid.
A demonstration of what people actually do. If it’s on tv it must be true. The View always tells the truth.
No, the View is talking head opinions with nothing of evidence beyond the IQ level of the speakers, whereby in contrast the video of actual evidence being displayed is more a reality of believing your lying eyes. Unless you are attempting to say the video was staged by NBC4 local NYC, which would be pretty odd while simultaneously showing Lester Holt lying his pants off on the National version of their so-called, news.
Here’s Lord HaHa Holt’s performance link:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/nbcs-lester-holt-trump-assassination-attempt-follows-campaigns-increasingly-fierce-rhetoric/ar-AA1qF3T0
This is just lazy. There are a number of reports. Are they credible? Maybe, maybe not. But this was not created out of whole cloth nor “easily debunkable.”
This is so wrong it hurts. A city, a state which has a serious problem was named and these issues were reported to officials. Yes, the officials claimed them uncredible, but it wasn’t any candidate who made it up; the reports were made well before the debate.
Spewing this type of ignorance is simply sad.
* someone requested police reports…those just list facts, Mam
BugAnon – This is for your edificatiion:
http://www.nationalgeographic.com › culture › articleInside the voodoo rituals of Haiti – National Geographic
“In Haiti voodoo believers pray and perform animal sacrifices to feed and beckon the spirits. Then they dance until a spirit takes over their bodies and, it is said, heals them or offers advice.
The ceremony begins with a Roman Catholic prayer. Then three drummers begin to play syncopated rhythms. The attendees begin to dance around a tree in the center of the yard, moving faster and harder with the rising pulse of the beat. The priest draws sacred symbols in the dust with cornmeal, and rum is poured on the ground to honor the spirits.
One woman falls to the ground, convulsing for a moment before she is helped back to her feet. She resumes the dance, moving differently now, and continues dancing for hours. It is perhaps no longer she who is dancing: She is in a trance, apparently possessed by Erzuli, the great mother spirit.
It is an honor to be entered and “ridden” by a Loa, or spirit. In Haiti these rituals are commonplace: Voodoo is the dominant religion.
“One common saying is that Haitians are 70 percent Catholic, 30 percent Protestant, and 100 percent voodoo,” said Lynne Warberg, a photographer who has documented Haitian voodoo for over a decade.
In April 2003 an executive decree by then president Jean-Bertrand Aristide sanctioned voodoo as an officially recognized religion.
See full list on nationalgeographic.com
Author: Sharon Guynup”
“An officially recognized religion.”
Takes one to know one you loonie.
Finland has the best education system in the world.
Finland’s model of education focuses on the importance of play and joy in education. In fact, education up to age 7 is almost entirely play-based. Finnish law requires 15 minutes of play for every 45 minutes of formal instruction. With a combination of free and teacher-directed play, students learn to build relationships with peers, communicate, be active, develop independence, and manage risk. Education in Finland also emphasizes playing outside in nature year-round.
In Finland, teachers are highly valued. The teaching career is prestigious, demanding, and reserved for the most talented and hard-working. All teachers must have an undergraduate degree and then apply for a masters degree in education. It is harder to gain entry to the University of Helsinki’s teacher education program (6.8 percent acceptance rate) than the law program (8.3 percent acceptance rate) or the medical school (7.3 percent acceptance rate). Teacher’s salaries are comparable to that of doctor’s.
There are no standardized tests in Finland.
All it takes for a good education system is to train good teachers, pay them extremely well, respect them, and let them do their job.
https://sagomini.com/article/joyful-learning-how-the-finnish-education-system-gets-it-so-right/
https://mathandmovement.com/finlands-education-system-vs-us-the-interesting-and-surprising-differences/
Not so fast Smarty housut.
It appears that celebrating the Finnish education system’s high marks is a bit premature.
https://fordhaminstitute.org/national/commentary/rise-and-fall-finland-mania-part-two-why-did-scores-plummet
https://bigthink.com/the-present/finland-education-system-criticisms/
Turley and the rest of the MAGA cult seem to think that education is something to be endured, and that success is best measured by beating your classmates in some sort of zero sum game of standardized testing.
Finland gets it right. Every child is brought to their best potential in a joyful environment free of competition.
Comparing education of a frozen land culture to equatorial cultures is ridiculous. One mistake in a freezer is sure death. It’s a different type of competition.
“In 2000, the Program for International Student Assessment (PISA) released the results of its first survey of education attainment. Administrated by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, the triennial assessment tested the skills and knowledge of 15-year-olds around the world.”
“That year, Finland handily came out as a top performer, scoring high in math and science, and number one in reading. The United States’ performance that same year, for comparison’s sake, could best be described as middling. These results led many to claim that Finland had the best education system in the world. Educators and politicians swarmed to the Nordic country in the hopes of discovering the source of their golden touch.”
“Then things took a turn, and Finland’s standings began to slip. Between 2006 and 2012, its scores in science, reading, and math fell sharply: 18, 23, and 29 points respectively. PISA 2015 saw further drops; meanwhile, other top performers have remained relatively steady.”
“Finland was on a downwards slope, not an upwards one,” writes Tim Oates, director of assessment research and development at Cambridge Assessment. “All the assumptions in 2000 seemed to be of Finland at the top and on the rise, not on the way down. And that was mistaking PISA for a longitudinal study, rather than a cross-sectional one.”
“While Finland remains a top performer, it has lost its luster in the eyes of many experts, bringing criticisms of Finland’s education system to the debate.”
“Overall, the strongest policy lesson is the danger of throwing out authority in schools, and especially getting rid of knowledge-based, teacher-dominated instruction,” writes Shalgren. “[T]he story from Finland backs up the increasing amount of evidence, which suggests that pupil-led methods, and less structured school environments in general, are harmful for cognitive achievement.”
https://bigthink.com/the-present/finland-education-system-criticisms/
excellent.
Finland doesn’t have a population with an average IQ of 80 to contend with. Comparing a small European country like Finland to the US is disingenuous. Try harder!
The population of Finland 2022 was 5.7 million, consider that against the population of America, now at an estimated 370 million with 30 million of that being people that can’t even speak English. Just consider that in your argument and let the worm turn. You should be able to figure that out. If you’re 30 and not a liberal you have no heart, if you’re over 30 and still a liberal you have no brain.
“Finland gets it right. Every child is brought to their best potential in a joyful environment free of competition.’
If you’re society is educating children for careers as reindeer herders, that’s just fine and dandy.
😂 😂 “all it takes. .” Of course capable pupils might help. 😂
And actual teachers rather than socialist wet-nurses perhaps.
You’ll find that in some private schools where 1st grade teachers are single subject PhD holders. Math is taught by math majors with advanced degrees at every grade. The cost or pay is very high and the clientele quite well off. They do well.
Word salad in that 1st sentence. Must have been Beowulf
And Ezra Pound in 1st grade. Not to mention that Bob Frost stopping in that snowy wood when his little horse thought it’s 🤫 queer…
But it’s so much easier in America to have a lousy easy-on-pupils educational system and blame the large Black-White & Asian academic gap on institutional racism & the legacy of slavery. Liberals are such suckers for this BS.
Ignore is not only bliss but a profitable stream of forward-looking, sustainable, renewable profit in redistributive change schemes with green players.
If you want to save public schools you should embrace school choice for all. Competition breeds success. The failing U.S. auto industry of the ’70’s was saved by the stiff competition from more desirable Japanese imports. Forced them to figure out how to make a product people actually wanted.
Turley is not being completely honest about the issue. Standardized testing is not always the best way to determine student performance. On standardized exams, all test takers answer the same questions under the same conditions, usually in multiple-choice format. Those kinds of tests reward quick answers to superficial questions. They don’t measure the ability to think deeply or creatively in any subject. Their use encourages a narrowed curriculum, outdated forms of instruction, and bad practices like grade retention and tracking.
Standardized tests are not designed, and should not be used for promoting or ranking students, evaluating teachers, or grading schools. They are a better predictor of a student’s socio-economic status and a parent’s educational attainment level.
When you have multiple choice questions. Student don’t often think. They just pick the best answer or guess.
There are training tests at companies to determine that employees understand the rules and they are always multiple choice questions designed to be as easy as possible only to show an employee ‘fully understands’ policies and rules. The majority of the time those tests they give you to test your knowledge are purely for liability reasons.
I’m a retired professor (36 years) and I often had students who complained, “they couldn’t do tests.” During all those years I never found a student who was “smart” who couldn’t do tests. Just a bunch of bs artists. Generally lazy and unwilling to work hard to learn.
George
Standardized testing Grades 1-12 evaluate RRR, not corporate employment evaluation. In the never ending quest to bring “diversity” “equity” and “inclusion” to the intellectual midgets amongst us, the left continues to lower academic standards. Wait till we run shy on Doctors, Engineers, Pilots and other high level positions that carry responsibility. Oh wait, we already are..
Right. They’ll be imported from India. The GEE tests.
“Standardized testing Grades 1-12 evaluate RRR, not corporate employment evaluation. ”
You’re missing the point. Standardized testing does not show actual student performance. It’s literally multiple choice questions that don’t require much thinking or creativity. They are a one size fits all method of guessing the performance of students. A majority of adults wouldn’t be able to pass a standardized test for 12th graders. Just as most citizens wouldn’t be able to pass the citizenship test given by the INS.
Oh no George!
The MCAT and USMLE for medical doctors are standardized tests, with multiple-choice questions!!!!
And the multi-state bar exam for lawyers (one whole day’s worth of multiple-choice questions)!
And the CPA test for our great accountants is merely a multiple choice exam!
According to you, this means that the questions “don’t require much thinking or creativity. They are a one size fits all method of guessing the performance.”
What about the multiple-choice SAT which gleans out the top academic high-schoolers?
And the GMAT and the LSAT– All standardized multiple choice exams!
Gee, I think even DRIVERS’ EXAM TESTS (to get a driver’s licenses) are multiple-choice too!
Oh NO George!!!
does this mean that:
(a) you can not comprehend what you are reading or saying
(b) you are being paid to promote a certain agenda
(c) you cannot think on your own
(d) you have a problem with reading comprehension and context
(e) all of the above)
(f) none of the above
yours truly,
(a) Jonathan Turley
(b) lin
(c) President Biden
(d) Kamala Harris
(c) all of the above
(d) none of the above
The answer is almost always E
the answer is probably (G) that you did not think your answer or response all the way through before posting it, there being nothing to plagiarize.
^^^this comment is not addressed to anonymous at3:30.
It was addressed to Anonymous at 3:01
Anonymous, you’re forgetting that adults and children are different when it comes to testing.
Multiple choice tests are not always the best way to determine student performance or knowledge if they are just studying to pass the test.
The bar exam is not all multiple choice questions. Neither are the medical exams.
However just because they are also standardized it does not mean it prove proficiency. It just shows you memorized something or guessed.
Thats why we still have bad doctors, lawyers, MBA’s etc. just because they passed doesn’t mean they are good.
George, with a good MSAT score and other good grades, such as Organic Chemistry and Genetics, the student then enters medical school for 4 years of grueling study. Following graduation there is a year, even harder, as an intern followed by about 7 years of residency. Two of my children have done that.
The result is that doctors trained in the US are pretty da**ned good! But there aren’t enough so some foreign trained doctors also practice in the US.
Αlso a shortage of nurses, but certainly not a shortage of lawyers.
A majority of the low IQ adults that George knows (and George), wouldnt be able to pass.
Maybe then we go back to the red hot iron on tongue. That always brings out the truth.
What is the square root of pi? Yeowwww!
According to George:
(a) apple
(b) apple x apple
(c) r x2
(d) An Academy Award movie about a Tiger
(e) none of the above
(f) all of the above
I don’t know but I think Kamala is a Natural Log…especially as her policies are defined as approaching the limit of 0.
Roasted Root Vegetable Pie
I admit to inserting a bit of twisted dry math humor as in Ln(x) and finite or infinite! ♾️ Square root of pi, everyone knows Pi are round😜
SQRT(pi) = 1.772453892…
Right outta Wikipedia.
The tests have a name. —> criterion referenced tests. They provide interesting info.
“Turley is not being completely honest about the issue. Standardized testing is not always the best way to determine student performance.”
What is the best way?
I shouldn’t ask such a question from an ignorant person.
When the Ottoman Empire broke up, portions of the Middle East were divided into Mandates. Some of the major countries of the time each got a piece of land, which, under specific laws, was to be divided up to become nation-states. That is how many of the countries were created and the boundaries settled. Therefore, each country created worked under the same international rules.
What happened to the British Mandate?
Time for you to respond, but you don’t. You can’t. You are too stupid to do so.
“What is the best way?”
Not standardized testing.
Good teacher observation, documentation of student work, and performance-based assessment, all of which involve the direct evaluation of real learning tasks, provide useful material for teachers, parents, and the public. Many nations that do the best in international comparisons, like Finland, use these techniques instead of large-scale standardized testing.
LMAO
You’re missing the point, genius. The sort of testing you are talking about would not yield the results you want, trust me.
“Good teacher observation, documentation of student work, and performance-based assessment, all of which involve the direct evaluation of real learning tasks, provide useful material for teachers, parents, and the public. Many nations that do the best in international comparisons, like Finland, use these techniques instead of large-scale standardized testing.”
Every word copied and pasted from HERE:
https://fairtest.org/facts-whatwron-htm/
Svelaz the plagiarizing liar has no idea if its true or not.
Watch out, he also likes to quote Jimmy Fallon.
“Not standardized testing.”
Though you are attempting to respond to the question which is admirable, you copied the words of another. That demonstrates the BS you spew because you don’t even understand what you are reading.
I don’t know one advanced country that doesn’t use some form of standardized testing. You have no facts, you cannot understand what you read. You are a plagiarist but worst of all you are arrogant and ignorant.
Burn ointment aisle 9!
I love your take downs, so brutal yet so….anchored in facts. Like holy water to the Marxist Vampires.
Professor S. Meyer
Thank you, Traveler. You do well yourself, so such a comment is very much appreciated.
Why thank you Sir, a very kindly compliment in return. I know you will continue to fight the good fight!
“quick answers to superficial questions”. So, if you were asked the boiling point of water, that would be “superficial”?
Of course Standardized tests should be used for promoting or ranking students, evaluating teachers, or grading schools. That they might also correlate with economic status does not invalidate its usefulness for ranking. A student that does poorly on standardized tests are not very likely to be be deep & creative thinker. Most deep & creative thinkers that we rightly celebrate were not lousy with tests in schools.
Dear Mr. Turley, I am 65 years old and I well remember during the beginning of my 8th grade year, the teachers’ attitudes taking a dramatic shift towards the left. It was all about protecting themselves over educating the students. A “Ms. Porch” actually stated to the entire class “it was none of your parents’ business to know anything about me”. Even at 13 years old, my jaw hit the floor. For over 50 years, this educational system has been at a slow boil towards protecting the teachers’ Union and forgetting the students. We all can see the results in our society. I encourage any and all parents to fight for the charter school vouchers and if your child is in a private school, do everything in your power to keep that school running. Even if you are called upon to clean the bathrooms and mop the floors.
C’mon Turley, lets get real.
The explosion in jobs being created are for menial tasks where a good education isn’t required. (Hence the push for immigration (less than legal) and future Dem voters.)
The reality is that ignorance is truly bliss. Without an education you’re more susceptible to the propaganda.
Sorry, but this is both a serious and a bit sarcastic in nature.
-G
When it’s time for presidential “Educational Enjoyment”, give the Secret Service a break.
DJT could start indoor bowling ball, table top ping pong or even pickle ball. The SS won’t have to go out on the 5th hole golf course looking for a double boggy. It makes the SS jobs easier to secure the area from the DNC nuts.
Poor anon,
Then they will have won.
Trump has to continue to go out and be seen and press the flesh.
Its who he is and shows a defiant nature that a world leader should have.
If I was a proponent of censorship, I’d muzzle a slew of Dims who are calling Trump Hit-ler and a Nat-zi [sic]
The reality is that the Dims are so far left… its time to swing back. But that would mean certain people giving up control… which they won’t.
If DJT is elected there will be a surprise:
Glorious Supreme Dear Divine Leader, Kim Jong Un, aka rocket man will send a love letter to his US Excellency DJT for an invite to NK. Dear Leader has it all. Casinos, a vast wine cellar, comfort girls. DJT should not bring 1st Lady Melania to NK. There will be locker room talk.