Marc Elias and the Demise of the Faux “Save Democracy” Movement

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Below is my column in the New York Post on the reappearance of Marc Elias in leading the effort to undo the victory of Dave McCormick in Pennsylvania. While some have distanced themselves from the controversial Democratic lawyer, Sen. Bob Casey has embraced Elias in his effort to retain the seat. Despite being sanctioned and ridiculed by courts in prior cases, Democrats continue to enrich Elias, who is the personification of the hypocrisy of some self-appointed “save democracy” champions. Casey continued on Tuesday to refuse to concede. Every candidate has a right to have all of the votes counted. However, regardless of the outcome of the effort, Casey’s association with Elias destroys any moral high ground for him and his campaign.

Here is the column:

Marc Elias is back and that is not good news.

Despite the Pennsylvania race being called by the AP almost a week ago, Elias is working with Sen. Bob Casey (D-Pa.) to try to change that outcome. It is not surprising that Casey was left with Elias.

For many, Elias is a notorious figure who captures the hypocrisy of the “save democracy” crowd. Elias is an attorney who has been sanctioned in court and denounced by critics as a Democratic “dirty trickster” and even an “election denier.”

Despite his checkered history, Elias remains the go-to lawyer for many Democratic campaigns.

It was Elias who was the general counsel to the Clinton presidential campaign when it funded the infamous Steele dossier and pushed the false Alfa Bank conspiracy. (His fellow Perkins Coie partner, Michael Sussmann, was indicted but acquitted in a criminal trial.)

During the campaign, reporters asked about the possible connection to the campaign, but Clinton campaign officials denied any involvement in the Steele Dossier. When journalists discovered after the election that the Clinton campaign hid payments for the Steele dossier as “legal fees” among the $5.6 million paid to Perkins Coie, they met with nothing but shrugs from the Clinton staff.

New York Times reporter Ken Vogel said at the time that Elias denied involvement in the anti-Trump dossier. When Vogel tried to report the story, he said, Elias “pushed back vigorously, saying ‘You (or your sources) are wrong.’” Times reporter Maggie Haberman declared, “Folks involved in funding this lied about it, and with sanctimony, for a year.”

Elias was back when John Podesta, Clinton’s campaign chairman, was questioned by Congress on the Steele dossier and denied categorically any contractual agreement with Fusion GPS. Sitting beside him was Elias, who reportedly said nothing to correct the misleading information given to Congress.

The Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee were ultimately sanctioned by the FEC over the handling of the funding of the dossier through his prior firm. (I previously discussed the comparison to the criminal charges against Trump for treating the mislabeling of payments as “legal expenses.”).

The Democratic National Committee reportedly later cut ties with Elias.

Nevertheless, other Democrats continued to hire Elias despite his checkered past. He unsuccessfully led efforts to challenge Democratic losses.  Elias also was the subject of intense criticism after a tweet that some have called inherently racist.

Elias continued to be accused of not defending but thwarting democracy. In Maryland, Elias filed in support of an abusive gerrymandering of the election districts that a court found not only violated Maryland law but the state constitution’s equal protection, free speech and free elections clauses. The court found that the map pushed by Elias “subverts the will of those governed.”

His work for New York redistricting was ridiculed as not only ignoring the express will of the voters to end such gerrymandering but effectively negating the votes of Republican voters.

In 2024, the Chief Judge of the Western District of Wisconsin not only rejected but ridiculed the Elias Law Group for one of its challenges. Judge James Peterson (an Obama appointee) said that the argument “simply does not make any sense.”

The point is that it does not have to make sense. Democratic campaigns fund Elias and his various profitable enterprises to seek to change the outcome of called elections.

That is the case with Casey. Trump won Pennsylvania’s presidential election, and Dave McCormick received tens of thousands more votes. With 99 percent of the votes counted, even Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer relented in reversing his decision to bar McCormick from the orientation for new senators.

What is most striking is the strategy of Elias. The state has roughly 87,000 provisional ballots to count, but those ballots were generally challenged for defects or suspected invalidity. Even if they were to count, it is unlikely that they will break so overwhelmingly for Casey to overturn the result. Indeed, only about 30,000 were coming from Casey strongholds in Philadelphia and Allegheny County.

However, Elias just wants to get within .5% to trigger a mandatory recount.

It is reminiscent of Trump demanding an additional recount in Georgia, maintaining on a call that all he needed was to “find 11,780 votes” to change the outcome.  All Elias needs to do is find 40,000 votes.

Of course, when Trump made that comment, Elias and Democrats insisted that he was seeking to defraud the state by demanding a new recount.

It is not the first time Elias seemed to morph into those he denounced. Previously in New York, Elias unsuccessfully sought to flip the result in a congressional race by claiming that the Dominion voting machines somehow switched or changed votes. Sound familiar?

Casey will eventually have to accept defeat, but Elias will remain the break-the-glass option for Democratic campaigns when other lawyers have lost the appetite for challenging election results.

Jonathan Turley is the Shapiro Professor of Public Interest Law at George Washington University. He is the author of “The Indispensable Right: Free Speech in an Age of Rage.” 

 

 

216 thoughts on “Marc Elias and the Demise of the Faux “Save Democracy” Movement”

  1. Was it Marc Elias’ father or grandfather who was OPERATION PAPERCLIP?

    Regardless, Elias has performed true to,the THIRD REICH!

  2. President Obama also funded Fusion GPS for about a million. His lawyer one of the founders of the Brookings Institute was forced to quit.

  3. If you look at the popular vote percentage for 2020 and 2024, Trump had 47% in 2020 and 50.3-to-51% in 2024 (pending the final ballot count, still days away). This means three or four percent of the electorate who voted for Biden switched and voted for Trump. I realize there are new voters in 2024 who didn’t vote in 2020, some due to having reached 18 since then, and so I’m doing a very rough guestimate.

    My point is: only about one in 30 Democrats seems to have been swayed by disaffection for all the garbage being put forth by the Dems. Although that is enough to have made the difference between Trump apparently losing in 2020 and Trump resoundingly winning in 2024, is it really that much cause for celebration, thinking there’s been a sea change among Democrat voters?

    I may be wrong about the above, I’m asking sincerely for what you guys think about this because the small percentage of change has me worried that not enough people have “gone sane” this time around to really usher in a bright future when the unique personality of Trump is not part of the race. To see how unique a draw he is, consider that, for example, 70,000 voters in Nevada voted for Trump but didn’t even bother to pull the lever for Sam Brown down the ticket, which in turn caused him to lose to Jackie Rosen.

    1. What about the millions of voters that died due to COVID? Where is that reflected in the numbers? There’s alot to consider when comparing the numbers, 2020 had how many military personnel were deployed using mail in ballots? How many mail in ballots in 2020 versus 2024? Thinking about the numbers and where they came from, how do precincts have 200% turnout with 96% going to Democrats?

      1. Millions of voters did not die due to Covid.

        After decades of decline US mortality started to increase in approx 2013 and has had a STEADY upward trend since.
        The reason is obvious – the increase in the average age of the population – NOTHING else.

        If you normalize for that trend – you can not find Covid in the mortality data.
        Absolutely millions of people died from Covid.
        Almost all people who would have died of something in the next 6 months.
        Covid merely replace Pneumonia as the angel of death for older people already dying.

    2. You read my mind, Kansas. What are people so happy about when there are 70 million(?) Loons running around voting yes on broken borders, murder of citizens, drugs raging, disorders of every kind re gender, same sex marriage, anti constitution, broken universities, unaffordable goods and service, homeless and hungry and it couldn’t be worse.

      There’s 70 million loons that must be provided for by someone else all the while watching out for heinous crimes.

      Group by States and take care of your own. I don’t mean to insult loons but folks you’re not ok.

    3. I could not agree more with you period I was not sure whether Trump would win or not and in my mind it all came down as to whether who would vote in larger numbers, same people or idiots period even though the same people won. Comma there were a ton of fringing idiots

      1. Saying is what it should have read not same. I am on my front porch with peanut.Trying to do this on my cell phone for the first time period. Okay note to self, Use the period and the comma at the bottom of the screen, I don’t say the words out loud. Old dogs can learn new tricks!

      2. Is same comma, Should have been sane. I am doing this on my front porch with my smartphone for the first time. And I am having to learn some new tricks. Bark bark arf!

      3. What is came down to was republican vigilance and sunlight making the massive fraud of 2020 impossible.

        Trump got almost the same number of votes as he did in 2020.

        But 20M magical Biden ballots vanished.

        Total Votes
        2008 131M
        2012 129M
        2016 136M
        2020 158M
        2024 approx 140M est.

    4. Comparisons between 2020 and 2024 have a HUGE problem

      There is cry little difference between Trumps peformance in 2020 and 2024. He received almost the same number of votes.

      The BIG difference is that unlike 2012, 2016 and 2024, in 2020 there were 20M more votes and they all went to Biden.

      And if you think that Joe Biden won 20M more votes than Either Clinton or Harris – with Trump receiving very lnearly the same in 2020 and 2024, and 7M more from 2016 to 2020,
      without Fraud your smoking whacky weed.

    1. Sem, do you believe in the rule of law? What law do you think Elias violated? You have to have “probable cause” to begin an investigation. Remember, the law is what is written down in the la books — not what you wish it to be when thinking about a person you dislike.

      I’d rather be discussing ways to use torts law to impoverish Marc Elias for defrauding the public with the Steele dossier. For that, we need Public Frauds legislation from Congress.

      1. I really dislike “We need to investigate and imprison ” posts and claims that are completely without backing specifics of actions and related criminal laws,

        I also don’t prefer the opposite: attempting to sweep issues like that away and replacing it with “nothing to see here”.

        What law do you think Elias violated?

        He did/didn’t violate the law while acting as the paymaster for foreign spies illegally hired and paid by Clinton/Obama/Biden/the DNC to write the illegal “Trump-Russia Dossier” campaign smear? If they declined to prosecute him as they declined to prosecute Clinton, then it wasn’t illegal?

        He did/didn’t violate the law when he concealed laundering the dirty Clinton/Biden/DNC millions of dollars that passed through his hands to those foreign spies by declaring in his financial records and IRS tax returns that those were payments to him for ‘legal services’? If they declined to prosecute him, as they declined to prosecute Clinton, then it wasn’t illegal?

        How many Democrat politicians and lawyers inside and outside the government, working in coordination to deprive American citizens of their civil rights through a series of connected but different criminal actions to achieve their purpose, is required before a criminal RICO investigation and prosecutions are justified?

      2. What law did Elias break – the exact same ones that Trump allegedly broke. READ what Turley wrote.
        The FEC identified the Clinton campaign and Marc Elias’s records of his “legal expenditures” for the Steeele Dossier as an illegal campaign contribution reported FRAUDULENTLY.

        1. John say,

          “The FEC identified the Clinton campaign and Marc Elias’s records of his “legal expenditures” for the Steeele Dossier as an illegal campaign contribution reported FRAUDULENTLY.”

          Trump was charged under STATE law. The FEC is a FEDERAL law. NY defines fraud differently. Elias could not be charged under federal law. Didn’t you make the point that federal law defines fraud as a property issue?

      3. You have to have LESS than reasonable suspicion to begin an investigation.
        You need probable cause to get a warrant in an existing investigation.

        As to torts – lying to the public and defrauding them are NOT the same thing.

        This is one of James and Bragg errors that if those cases do not die for other reasons will kill them.

        Fraud requires real tangible harm. Influencing peoples votes do NOT count.

        There is a special circle of H311 for Elias – but I do not see any tort claim against him that can get into court.

  4. It appears that John Thune will be the Senate Majority leader going forward. Are Senate Republicans just as obtuse about what the American people demanded on November 5 as the Democrats? I hope this doesn’t portend the same kind of behind the scenes obstruction of Trump’s agenda (with the notable exception of SCOTUS appointments) that McConnell orchestrated during Trump’s first term, but I fear for the worst. There have even been rumors that McConnell intends to keep wielding majority leader power through Thune, without enduring accountability for the position.

    1. @Anonymous

      Same here. I am failing to see anything representative of a sea change in the trickle down. I sure hope we haven’t all been played for fools.

      1. “I sure hope we haven’t all been played for fools.”

        You have. That’s what democrats have been sayin years. Will it take a worsening economy and increased deficits to come to the realization for many more? Only time will tell.

    2. Thune can have 5 minutes to see whether he grasps the meaning of the 2024 election.

      If it is clear that he does not – then he can be removed.

      The Senate can choose its own leaders.

      But voters get to choose their own senators.

  5. For many, Elias is a notorious figure who captures the hypocrisy of the “save democracy” crowd.

    Oh, why not. Whatever doubt remained that the Democratic party had lost all connection with everyday Americans, that they hated democracy, then stay tuned as they mount their attack to prevent an America First agenda from improving the lives of those everyday Americans. Democrats in Congress will soon begin to establish a voting record that supported efforts to improve the economy, that secured our southern border, that deported violent criminal illegal aliens, that restored the DOJ and FBI to non-political greatness, that made Executive branch agencies more efficient, that returned us to energy independence, that brokered peace abroad, that strengthened our military. Or, their record will show them to be the enemy of the people.

  6. Jonathan: I know. Marc Elias has been a thorn in your side for some time. Why? Because he and his law firm have consistently defended voting rights in courts around the country–trying to prevent DJT and his MAGA supporters from disenfranchising voters. Why you would oppose Elias’s efforts defies logic.

    Last Friday, McCormick filed a lawsuit asking the court to prohibit Philadelphia County (a Dem stronghold) from examining and counting any provisional ballots. The judge in the case rejected McCormick’s emergency motion. Then McCormick brought a second lawsuit challenging all provisional ballots. He later withdrew that lawsuit. Last month, the PA SC ruled that under state law voters whose mail-in ballots were rejected due to minor errors must be allowed to vote provisionally. The RNC and the PA GOP appealed the case to SCOTUS that declined to intervene. So McCormick has failed in both attempts to prevent the counting of provisional ballots. Whether those provisional ballots and other ballots will make a difference in the PA Senate election and whether there will be an automatic recount is unclear at this point.

    But one thing IS clear. Marc Elias is fighting to uphold Senator Casey’s rights to a free and fair election in PA. That’s what election attorneys do–trying to protect the election process and the rights of candidates. So it’s bizarre you would claim “Casey’s association with Elias destroys any moral high ground for him and his campaign”. The opposite is true. It is Elias that is trying to claim the “moral high ground” by fighting for Casey’s right to have all votes counted and demanding a recount if election outcome demands it.

    It’s also strange you would attack Elias for his election work when you said nothing about the over 60 lawsuits DJT filed after he lost the 2020 election. That was OK despite the finding by judges there was absolutely no factual basis for DJT’s claims of “massive election fraud”. But when Marc Elias fights in court for Senator Casey that suddenly is out of bounds for you. Please explain that dubious distinction!

    1. Jonathan: I know. Marc Elias has been a thorn in your side for some time. Why?

      Jonathan, the parasitic leech that pretends to be your friend while using your comments section as his personal propaganda blog and toilet for dropping his written deuces is attempting to deceive you and your readers again.

      Communist police state fascists like Dennis McIntyre admire a lawyer that was a criminal bagman and money launderer for Clinton/Obama/Biden/the DNC illegally hiring foreign spies to illegally create and write their “Trump-Russia Dossier”. Elias as a Democrat lawyer criminal bagman is just slightly smarter about being a bagman and money launderer than the other Democrat lawyer criminal bagman, the First Felon Crackhead Kid.

      However, while Merrick Garland was doing everything he could to give the Crackhead Kid a pass for every single one of all his felonies, he did a better job of giving Marc Elias a pass on his criminal money laundering and tax crimes.

      Here’s why the unindicted felon Marc Elias is a thorn in the side of Americans who have watched all of this.

      Normal Americans don’t like attorneys criminally playing a part in Obama/Biden converting the FBI into their personal party STASI, sending their Attorney Generals and FBI Directors to FISA courts to repeatedly perjure themselves while uttering that false document to those courts. All to obtain spy warrants to deprive many Americans beside Trump of their civil rights.

      Normal Americans don’t like the DoJ and the infamous and incredibly corrupt Washington DC and New York bar associations celebrating their members for being successful criminals while at the same time providing them cover to act as such.

      Criminal attorneys who concealed their illegal payment of those foreign spies by fraudulently declaring the Clinton/Obama/DNC dirty money that Elias criminally laundered through his firm to foreign spies as ‘payment for legal services’.

      Then filing fraudulent corporate tax returns with the IRS, again fraudulently declaring that dirty money he laundered as going into his pockets for ‘legal services’ – NOT declaring it as illegal payments to illegally employed foreign spies working for Clinton and Obama.

      Acting as a money laundering bagman is NOT ‘legal services’. You don’t have to be a member of the Washington DC and New York bar to act as a bagman laundering illegal payments to illegally employed Putin spies (or Putin bribes paid to The Big Guy in the VP’s office).

      And because Attorney General Merrick Garland chose to NOT prosecute Marc Elias or any of the Obama Attorney Generals and FBI Directors who the Durham report showed committed a rainbow of felonies in the 2016 election doesn’t mean what they did was legal.

      Jonathan, so much for your dear personal friend Dennis insulting you with yet another one of his Dennis Drops A Daily Deuce on your comments section.

    2. Dennis – Elias has been corrupting elections for decades.

      The very fact that you think of him as some voting rights hero is sad.

      He is not and never has been about voting rights.
      He is about democrats winning – by any means necescary and he will argue whatever he needs to do so.
      He will argue exactly the opposite in two different states at the same time – if some law or legal standard favors democrats in one state and disfavors them in another.

      Lawyers do that – and I do not have a problem with Alias doing so.

      But I do have a problem with those like you pretending that he or democrats are some champion of voters rights.

      That is false. Elais is about winning – by whatever means necescary.

    3. Dennis, the PA Supreme court is one of the most politically left biased in the country.

      They absolutely defied the plain meaning of the law in PA in 2020 allowing all kinds of shenangican.

      In 2024 – they reversed themselves on about HALF of the stupid nonsense they allowed in 2020

      Which is quite strange – why were unintended ballot boxes OK in 2020 and not in 2024 ?
      Why were mailing ballots received days after election day OK in 2020 and not in 2024.

      The PA law did not change.
      The PA constitution did not change.

      The PA SC rejected cases trying to follow the law in 2020,
      But blessed the same cases in 2024.

      I would note that the PA election law – like that of almost all states does not allow so called “minor” errors.

      The law requires a voter to meet ALL the requirements for voting to be able to vote,
      Because so called “minor errors” are indicia of fraud.

      But there is actually a provision fo law for correcting “minor errors” – and that requires the VOTER to come forward and correc tthe error.

      If you did not have ID – come back to the county election office with ID.
      If your address was wrong – provide proof that you live in that precinct.

      But the most common cause of provisionsal ballots is having voted by mail and then trying to vote in person.
      In that instance IF and ONLY IF your mailin ballot was yanked before counting, your in person provisional ballot will be counted.

      But counting provisional ballots without correcting the “error” that resulted in the ballot being provisional in the first place
      ALWAYS means either opening the door to fraud or people voting multiple times.

      Regardless provisional ballots get counted when the VOTER corrects the “minor error” that resulted in the provisional ballot.
      If the voter fails to do so – election official may not count the ballot.
      If they do – even with the permission of the courts you are enabling fraud.

    4. The problem with Elias is not the number of lawsuits he files – it is that he files ludicrously stupid ones.

      I have no problems with Casey challenging McCormicks victory.

      My problem is that Elias is NOT associated with reasonable challenges and reasonable issues.
      He is associates with efforts to fraudulently steal elections.

      As Turley noted – Elias is directly tied to the repugnannt Steele Dossier.

      Is that your idea of an ethical legitmate and lawful way to win an election ?

      Fraudulently sliming your opponent and trying – successfully to get law enforcement to go after your oponent – before and after they win,
      over FRAUDULENT claims that you made up yourself ?

      That is Marc Elias, That is Hillary Clinton.

      I have no problem with Casey challenging the PA Senate election – but he should get an honest lawyer to do so.

      If Casey prevails with Elias – I and many many other PA voters will presume that Casey stole the election – just because Elias was involved.

      And again – please do not cite Philladelphia or PA Supreme court cases – they are both among the most politically biased in the country.

      1. You seem bothered by the fact that Elias is successful. As a lawyer that should be a good thing. Ironically, he’s exactly the kind of lawyer Trump would hire.

    5. SCOTUS declined to take the appeal specifically because the case was about TWO provisional ballots and would have no effect on the election.
      Please read the oppinion. They did NOT address the merrits of the case. They decided that it was moot – meaningless specifically because any decision would only effect two ballots. and not the election.

    6. Again DM there was not a single 2020 Election case dismissed on FACTUAL grounds.
      Every single decision was a decision to NOT hear the case at all, for LEGAL technicalities – laches, mootness, ripeness, standing.
      Not one of those EVER addresses the FACTS of the case.

      It is also absurd that you are making this claim today.

      Trump received almost exactly the same number of votes in 2024 as in 2020.

      The difference between 2020 and 2024 is that in 2024 Republicans KNEW how the election was stolen and were prepared to thwart it if the Democrats tried that again and/or
      catch democrats in the act.

      What were some of the cases this year ?

      Challenges to the use of trail cameras by private citizens to monitor unattended ballot boxes.
      Challenges to counting ballots that arrived days after the election or that had no postmarks, or that had obviously forged signatures.

      Republicans only won about half the pre-election challenges.

      Though winning was NOT the really big deal.

      The big deal was that Democrats were on notice that they were not going to be able to sneak 20M fraudulent ballots in this year.

      In 2024 Trump received almost the same number of votes he did in 2020.
      Harris received almost the same number of votes that Clinton received in 2016.
      If Harris had received even 5 million less votes than Biden did in 2020 – she would have won.

      No political party has ever increased the umber of votes they got from one election to the next by 20M
      No political party has ever then LOST most of those 20M ballots in the next election.

      Democrats failure to come even close to their 2020 vote totals is plenty of proof of fraud in 2020.

      1. There were no facts. That was the problem. Trump’s lawyer could not produce the evidence they claimed to have. They even admitted it in open court. When asked if they had evidence they grudgingly admitted that they did not. All they had were “credible allegations” and affidavits based on hearsay. That’s why the majority of cases were dismissed. They had nothing to argue with.

    7. Dennis – the most common reason for a provisional ballot is that you voted by mail, but the mailin ballot was not yet received the day before the election and you tried to vote in person.

      In EVERY case that happens – you have TWO ballots in the queue for that election.
      You are entitled to have ONE and only ONE count.

      The next most common reason is that you are a first time voter and when you showed up at the polls, you did not have the required ID.
      In that case the voter is obligated to return to the electins office with proper ID after with their provisional ballot will be counted.

      The next most common reason for a ballot to be provisional is that it is a mailin ballot that either was not properly in the security envolpe when received – which means it is possibly fraudulent.
      Or the Voter Information on the outer envelope is incomplete or incorrect – in which case it is possibly fraudulent.

      Provisional ballots get counted AUTOMATICALLY if the “minor error ” is corrected.

      They do not get counted at all BU L:AW if it is not.

  7. Sigh. Really. The modern democratic party either needs to fracture or die. They are basically a clown version of the mafia at this point (along with the rest of the globalists), and I don’t know how anyone can take them seriously any longer. Marginalization will be more effective than anything else in their case, methinks, so let’s keep it up.

    1. James,
      I think they are fracturing. At least the common Democrat voters are seeing the crazy that is the modern Democrat party and no longer want anything to do with it. That is why they are leaving. Chris Cuomo did not vote for Harris, but wrote in his brother. Democrats are tired of wokism. Either the party gets with it and addresses the concerns of their voters or their voters have the right to leave the party or vote for someone else. Based off the reactions of the DNC elite, MSM, I would not hold my breath.
      How marvelous!

        1. @Anonymous

          We can hope. And I don’t disagree. Most human beings are very, very slow to change, and those are the ones that actually pay attention. Globally, we have to remember that for the majority of the planet, people grew up without our Constitution generationally, and it does not make sense immediately, the American ideal is a foreign concept, even if the promised freedom was alluring (the caveat: that freedom comes with personal responsibility, and that too, for many, is a foreign concept). Far, far too much to unpack.

          Nevertheless: God bless the USA. We are unique on the entire face of the earth, and I would be remiss to not be grateful I was born here. That alone is mighty privilege, and I do not ever take it for granted.

          1. @Traveler

            I almost want to salute his tenacity with his various aliases. Almost. He/they are the people I used to go, ‘No, bro.’, to on street corners in my hometown thirty years ago when they tried to pass me a flier, and back then, even as an independent voter, I leaned center-left. Things are very, very different now.

            ‘Gigi’ – ?? No explanation for why someone would waste their time in this fashion today barring a paycheck or mental illness. It isn’t even activism; it is verbal diarrhea with no filter with no basis in anything whatsoever, just pure regurgitated hyperbole and propaganda. At this point they are so in outer space, I don’t even know what the heck they are referencing. It sure isn’t objective reality, where whatever our differing opinions, the rest of us humans actually live.

            1. Anonymous with the * isn’t the usual DNC paid troll. He is definitely nuts but not of the caliber of Gigi, et al.

              Gigi, Svelaz, Sammy, Wally, George, bug, Dennis, Fishwings, et al are one and the same troll. The writing gives him away in a matter of a few words, rarely needing 1-2 sentences to reveal the persona. Many of the posts addressing Professor Turley by his first name, a nickname at that, “Jon”, is troll speak. I literally scroll past them because I know it’s just incoming diarrhea. I saw several regulars criticizing “George” for claiming Reagan had only 1 term. had it not been for their comments, I would have never know. Everybody knows Reagan had 2 terms: first term he was fit, the second he likely had symptoms of Alzheimers though mild. Thus George was engaged in his usual attack and divide banter…and it works. and he knows it works.

              Is he paid?

              I think so. But I can not rule out Axis II personality disorder, something I have mentioned for years on this forum, including citing many medical, psychological and lay news journals, i.e. the dark triad troll personality.

              Either way, I personally wish everyone ignored them because they detract from the real points of JT’s article, which are more often than not sufficient to have a vigorous debate as “lin” often mentions. But our society is in chaos, people are following their urges; rational, logical, intelligent points no longer drive the public forum. So we have trolls having a field day with their inane comments because they know others will engage them.

      1. @Upstate

        I definitely see signs of that, but as ever, the question is: do the people in question have the courage to follow through? Not everyone, most, in fact, do not possess the courage of a Tulsi or an RFK. Nothing against Catholics, but in the future we may very well have ‘recovering democrats’ (referencing people that say they are ‘recovering Catholics’). Only time will tell, I reckon, but really: in a country with our Constitution and Bill of Rights, something all other Western European countries lack, and boy does it show in 2024, we are definitely going to have to lead the way.

        The people have spoken here; let us hope that our trust has been well placed. I stated elsewhere and earlier, I do not think traditional religious conservatives like Mike Huckabee, who is indeed the caricature of the right, are helping to move that along, very disappointed personally, no one need agree with me, with the Trump team’s picks so far. IMO they are universally awful. 🤷🏻‍♂️

        One still might want to stockpile that food and ammo, as you have suggested previously. It ain’t over, and I do not personally fully agree with the incoming administration’s version of moving forward. Thank you very much for your response. Your comments are always well worth reading and considering. 👍🏼 I still have family in upstate NY (Pearl river), but they are dyed in the wool, generational JFK dems. That will likely never change.

        1. “no one need agree with me, with the Trump team’s picks so far. IMO they are universally awful.”

          Why? What is needed from Trump’s picks? They believe and can move forward with Trump’s agenda. In your opinion, what makes them bad picks and who would you put in their place?

          1. “Why? What is needed from Trump’s picks?”

            Competence. Trump’s picks are all about loyalty. Experience is secondary. His Secretary of defense pick is a fox news host how had ‘experience’ in the national guard. His best quality is that he’s a “yes man” and loyal subject.

            The question is will the Senate republicans confirm him for the position? Thune may not agree with that choice.

            1. Competence. Trump’s picks are all about loyalty. Experience is secondary.

              And yet between competence, loyalty and experience, the current administration’s Secretary of Defense demonstrated only loyalty to the Leftist agenda. Whatever experience he possessed, resulted in decimating morale, recruitment and absolutely zero accountability for the incompetence of the military leadership.

              First and foremost, President Trump has an America First agenda that every nominee better be loyal to. Secondly, great leaders surround themselves with equally loyal and competent staff to execute on the vision of the administration. And where they fail, the leader must demonstrate a commitment to hold his subordinates, as well as himself, accountable. Pete Hegseth has demonstrated competence in both his military and professional life. He has proven himself loyal to this country and he obviously shares Trump’s vision for the DoD.

            2. If Thune thwarts confirmation of Trump appointments – Thune will be replaced as majority leader.

              This is NOT about what Trump wants.

              This is about what VOTERS want.

              Separately – You and democrats lost – no one is interested in your views on the competence of Trump appointments.

              I like some, and have problems with others. But NONE are as bad as Biden’s appointments proved to be.
              Or were from the start.

              Sulivan has been a disaster as Sec State.
              Mayorkas was impeached with massive good cause.
              And he should have been removed.

              I THOUGHT Garland was a good choice for AG – he has been a complete total morally bankrupt disaster.
              He never should have taken the job – he besmirched a previously respectable carreer.

              Now instead of being the guy who was thwarted from a position he arguably deserved on the supreme court by politics,
              He will be remembered as the disasterous AG that we dodged a bullet when he was precluded from the supreme court.

              PSaki was pretty bad as Pres. Sec. KJP is probably the worst press secretary in US history.

              I can go on and on.

              Democrats have no legg to stand on criticizing Trump appointments.

              I would note – Trump dod NOT want Yes men. He does not want loyalty – though that is important.

              What he wants is psople that will ruthlessly impliment the Trump/GOP platoform ON THEIR OWN – without hsi having to step in.

              Trump did a good job in his first term, but he did so by implimenting policy entirely out of a small circle in the WH.

              Trump is looking to be remembered as Greater than Reagan. He can not do that by repeating his first term.

              To reach the stature of Reagan he must tdo more than be succesful as president.
              He must transform the federal government.
              And that can not be done if he must run everything through the WH.
              To accomplish that he must have people that can act on their own to move forward the GOP platform

              What he does NOT need is lots of Sen. Thune and Cornyn off on their own implimenting policies at odds with those the electorate voted for in this landslide.

              I would further note that some Trump appointments are placeholders – they will be receive Recess apointments.
              That will allow them to be in place and acting very early, but it will also mean they will get replaced later in the year.

              Trump can only apoint so many house and senate members at one time without undermining his ability to get legislation through the house and senate.

              One of the reasons that Thune, Cornyn, and Scott all agreed to Trump’s requiest for recess apointments is that failing to do so would mean that Trump would NOT put Senators and reps. into the executive.

            3. @George Svelaz: “Competence. Trump’s picks are all about loyalty. “

              You sound like a dummy. Marco Rubio is one of the most experienced voices in Washington, and so are others. You point out Pete Hegseth, who is accomplished, though you don’t recognize what accomplishment is. You want to see the defense secretary wearing a dress and passing out tampons instead of weapons.

              The appointment of Pete Hegseth shows a pivot towards a conservative defense strategy that emphasizes traditional readiness and combat values. The people voted and refused to accept tampons as the only defensive weapon for the military.

        2. I stated elsewhere and earlier, I do not think traditional religious conservatives like Mike Huckabee, who is indeed the caricature of the right

          Biases explicitly on the basis of Christian faith are pretty much a stereotypical copy of the Democrat party whose party religion is the atheist religious cult.

          The religious cult where the central tenant of their faith is hatred of Christians, especially Christian politicians, because they aren’t atheists.

          Try being agnostic… it doesn’t require hatred of people whose religious faiths you disagree with.

    2. * The population will take nature’s course and groups will separate by States.

      Globally the reason most Chinese people live in China, most east Indias live in India, most Africans live in Africa etc.

      Same thing. .

      1. @Anonymous

        Honestly, no. Those are honest to goodness caste societies, truly.

        The answer isn’t, ‘Well ok then, everyone move to America!’. No. The answer is, can we bring this freedom to every place; can we really create a world that works for everyone? The stirrings are actually there in modern India post-partition; in China – forget it, at least for now. Mao was the object lesson of all object lessons. It’s what we cannot allow to happen here.

        One thing is for certain: the modern EU, UN, WEF, WHO, etc. – they are the antithesis of this, and we must reject them at every available opportunity. They want global serfdom, not global ‘citizens,’ do not be fooled. They represent something people rejected centuries ago, and there is no logical reason to go down that road again, we do not need a new Dark Ages. We do not need the ascent of a new aristocracy that would end up, over time, being a new monarchy, but this time, globally. Younger people, bless them, are too stupid to see this is what they are working toward. They can go blow, and if America stands alone: so be it. We will stand alone. Would not be the first time by a long shot.

  8. Senator Bob Casey has held a Senate seat since 2007. This is what Marc Elias is defending. Term limits could not happen fast enough to oust people like Casey and complacent GOP members as well. It appears the Senate GOP aren’t fond of democracy either. Senator Rick Scott (in Senate since 2019) was eliminated via secret ballot from possible Senate leadership

    So now it begins. Senate GOP, as I predicted, cant stand together as a caucus. They will do to Trump again as they did to him in his first term. Typical Republican cowardice. This is why Democrats accomplish far more in Congress, because they are united

    Charlie Kirk
    @charliekirk11

    BREAKING: The first ballot for Senate leader is over, and Sen. Rick Scott did not receive enough votes to make it to the next round. The two remaining senators are John Thune and John Cornyn.

    https://x.com/charliekirk11/status/1856742435499761759

    1. “They will do to Trump again as they did to him in his first term. Typical Republican cowardice.”

      I think of it more as McConnell v2.0: party and person taking precedence over delivering the campaign platform for the country. And whatever you do, don’t do anything that will get you and your wife dis-invited from the Washington DC Power Brokers Cocktails and Canapes Party Circuit.

      It is hard to decide which of the two have been more complicit with regularly enabling the Obama and now Biden Democrat agenda. Rick Scott is barely any better, but far preferable to the other two if the objective is a GOP senate that will deliver on the Trump and GOP platforms they endorsed and claimed to support.

      My guess is that Trump did not endorse Rick Scott – or a much better Senator for supporting his election platform – because he knew McConnell and the funds he controlled already had the fix in, protected by the secret ballot. Trump’s endorsement of Scott would still have failed, leaving the Soviet Democrat – Marxist Mainstream Media Propaganda Complex publicly pointing out that Trump could not get the GOP senate behind him.

      Just on the issue of 2nd Amendment rights, the Democrats have been able to depend on all three of these candidates giving a helping hand on more 2nd Amendment restrictions rather than on pushing Democrats to enforce existing gun laws. I am amazed that what Cornyn does to support Democrats enacting more 2nd Amendment infringements doesn’t result in him being defeated in his Texas primary elections.

      Question: If you’re going to do Constitutional amendments to place term limits on the Senate, why would you prefer that instead of returning to the original Constitutional system where the elected state governments selected their Senators, versus the popular vote at election time?

      1. If you’re going to do Constitutional amendments to place term limits on the Senate, why would you prefer that instead of returning to the original Constitutional system where the elected state governments selected their Senators, versus the popular vote at election time?

        Americans have become accustomed to electing their US House & Senate members; it is part of the American ethos at this point. Besides, the state repesentatives/senators in both Florida and Virginia, 2 states with which I am most familiar as to their politics, are only shades above Venezuela’s political leaders. Virginia has some of the most embarrasing “assembly” (legislative) members I have ever seen. If they were empowered to elect Congressional leaders, it would be a carbon copy of what exists in the states.

        As an aside, 16 states have term limits on their legislative people, e.g. Florida

        https://ballotpedia.org/State_legislatures_with_term_limits

  9. Marc Elias, Jack Smith, Joy Reed, these people are capable of doing real harm. MSNBC has become the neurotic party. TikTok looks like a lunatic asylum now. I often can’t tell the difference between genuine posts and outright parodies.

    After this election, MSNBC lost over 50% of their viewers. Even many liberals are starting to realize how much they have been misled by these vindictive quacks. One saw a similar reaction to viewership for ABC and CBS after the debates. It wasn’t even a debate. It was a firing squad, and many viewers resented the networks because of it.

    The reality is that traditional liberalism and conservative populism have much in common. The restoration of American manufacturing and jobs for working people are now national security priorities, IMHO. We can’t trust supply chains coming from hostile and unstable powers. Since the Berlin Wall fell, those relationships have been devolving. Beijing’s buddies on the East and West coasts–like The Atlantic, WaPo, NYT, Huffpo, Yahoo, MSNBC, and some of the names mentioned above–want to keep the rest of us from figuring that out.

    1. Good luck finding un-woke Generals in this day and age. Ya gotta go along to get along these days. I was offered a star, but I knew what it meant i had to become if i accepted it.

      Waters

    2. I’ll go further, Kansas. Transgenders should not serve. The medical interventions and maintenance required for transgender treatments in no way make transgenders suitable for combat conditions. This transgenderism in the military is asinine virtue signaling and nothing more.

      1. This would be analogous to not allowing diabetics to join the military. They wouldn’t have access to insulin if they became POWs.

  10. Professor Turley (and your very close personal friend Dennis McIntyre), what does Marc Elias have in common with Obama/Biden’s last two Attorney Generals, last two FBI Directors, and former FBI Director and Special Counsel, Robert Mueller?

    Like you, they’re all Democrat members of the bar with careers in the legal profession as you are?

    Well, that’s true, but that’s not the bigger and more important answer I’m looking for.

    The answer is this: every single one of them is a criminal who was never prosecuted for the multiple felonies they committed in the creation and distribution of the Clinton/Obama/Biden/DNC “Trump-Russia Dossier”. Nor was a single one of them disciplined, much less disbarred by their bar associations for their crimes.

    You prefer to refer to that rampant criminality to attack our election process as well as individual rights of their victims as instead having “a checkered pass”????

    How much of a commitment do you have to the Constitution and a constitutional justice system, Professor Turley?

    If you have a commitment to the Constitution and a virtuous legal system acting in compliance with that Constitution with “equal justice for all”, how can you countenance and continue to be silent about what is essentially a Democrat organized crime cabal filled with and ran by Democrat lawyers occupying some of the most powerful positions in our government?

    Attorney Generals and FBI Directors repeatedly perjuring themselves to FISA court justices while uttering false documents to those courts while doing so. All to obtain unlawful counterespionage spy warrants to deprive American citizens of their civil rights in order to go hunting through their lives and friends, trying to find something, anything, to criminalize those American citizens whose only crime is opposing Democrat politicians.

    Marc Elias being the bagman paymaster Democrat lawyer who illegally passed that dirty Clinton/Obama/DNC cash to foreign spies in violation of criminal law.
    Elias being the lawyer who illegally falsified financial records, hiding those illegal payments as money paid to him for “legal services”.
    Elias being the lawyer who illegally submitted those falsified financial records to the IRS in his corporate tax returns.

    As you and all of the rest of those Democrat lawyers are considered to be officers of the court, is it acceptable within bar associations for one of their member lawyers to remain silent when they know their fellow lawyers are perjuring themselves to judges and uttering forged documents to those courts while doing so?

    You didn’t know all of them were committing those felonies Professor Turley. But Marc Elias and many other Democrat lawyers and members of the bar inside and outside of government knew that they were and stayed silent, allowing the criminality and deprivation of private Americans civil rights to continue.

    Your commitment to the Constitution and the constitutional rule of law beyond protecting the First Amendment is very questionable at times, Professor Turley.

  11. Dear Mr. Turley, appreciate GEB and his thoughts!! I thought Mr. Elias was helping out the financial mess of “Black Lives Matter”? What happened there? I also thought he had his fingers in the pie at the “The Lincoln Project”? Both of these groups are scams and would attract a person of Mr. Elias’ wretched character. Perhaps he would be willing to help out the Harris campaign’s financial mess. They spent 1 billion dollars and are now $20 million in the red. Mr. Trump has offered to help.

  12. If you want a perfect example of spoiled toddler behavior, just observe the prog/left. If these incontrollable, self-absorbed, petty tyrants can’t get their way by petulance they will try sabotage and chaos. They seem oblivious to the fact that the rest of the world is observing and being repulsed by their behavior. I wish that so many dem districts were not gerrymandered in such a way as to allow these enemy partisans to survive. It was refreshing yo learn that while AOC did get re-elected, a good part of her district voted for Trump at the top of the ticket – perhaps even those dullards that support her are finally seeing the light.

  13. Professor, when are you going to cut to the chase and rant on this: thedocuments.info ?

  14. OT, regarding Trump’s pick of Mike Huckabee as his ambassador to Israel. The Times of Israel ran a headline “Trump picks settlement backer Mike Huckabee as next US ambassador to Israel” (a settlement backer is someone who supports Israel’s right to create Jewish settlements in portions of Judea and Samaria; such a person is very pro-Israel). Meanwhile, All Israel News ran the headline: “By appointing Mike Huckabee ambassador to Israel, Trump highlights enormous influence of 60 million pro-Israel Evangelicals”

    I only mention this because yesterday a very ignorant, uneducated person was anonymously commenting that somehow Mike Huckabee hates Jews, and Trump’s appointing him ambassador was bad for Israel.

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/trump-picks-settlement-backer-mike-huckabee-as-next-us-ambassador-to-israel/

    https://allisrael.com/by-appointing-mike-huckabee-ambassador-to-israel-trump-highlights-enormous-influence-of-60-million-pro-israel-evangelicals

    1. OldManFromKS,
      Thank you for pointing out the facts. Our anonymoron friends have to resort to spreading outright lies, misinformation, disinformation in attempts to deflect the conversation away from either the good professor’s columns or away from Biden/Harris/Democrats failures.

      1. Upstate – one noticeable thing about the ignoramus’s comments is that he purported to cite something in the Bible, but he never gave chapter and verse of what he was referring to. He obviously had no idea of the chapter or verses he was supposedly referring to, leading me to believe he had read some cockamamie BS on some stupid left-wing website and just believed it without questioning it at all.

        1. ” he had read some cockamamie BS on some stupid left-wing website and just believed it without questioning it at all.” Isn’t that the regular procedure for all prog/left supporting partisans? Ignore the facts and make up the story you think best helps your agenda?

    2. Thank you, Oldman. I believe Governor Huckabee is an excellent choice. He is down-to-earth and genuinely supportive of the Jewish community, as well as anyone who aspires to lead a good, principled life. Speaking from my perspective as a member of the Jewish community, I can say that many Jews share a deep respect for Huckabee, even if they don’t align with him politically.
      It’s unfortunate that some people are so filled with resentment that they feel the need to tarnish the reputation of this good man. If given the chance, I believe Huckabee would reach out to these individuals, even those who spew negativity from a place of ignorance or misunderstanding.

      1. I believe so as well. With the anonymous commenter yesterday, though, it wasn’t just misunderstanding. It was willful blindness, malice, and purposeful deceit.

  15. The left is now telling the world how bad it would be if Trump cleans out the FBI and the CIA. They wring their hands over the people who have given such great service to their country by perpetuating the RussiaGate hoax and the Hunter laptop Russian disinformation letter. There is a job description for the people in the deep state who did these things. The name of the job is muckraker. It’s only poetic justice that they should be thrown out with the same shovel that they used to do their job. It wont be easy but Trump should clean the manure from the horse stall right down to the bare concrete with a shovel and a high pressure hose. America has spoken and said enough is enough.

  16. Professor Turley; didn’t you forget a few things????
    Despite his checkered history, Elias remains the go-to lawyer for many Democratic campaigns. It was Elias who was the general counsel to the Clinton presidential campaign when it funded the infamous Steele dossier and pushed the false Alfa Bank conspiracy.

    You clearly want to avoid openly saying “despite Elias’ criminal history”? Why?

    I don’t believe your memory is faulty Professor Turley, but a few reminders for anyone who is unaware of Elias’ history:

    1. He served as the bagman for illegal payments made by Clinton, Obama, and the DNC to a Putin spy (being investigated for espionage by the FBI) illegally hired to write the ‘Trump-Russia Dossier’ fraudulent document. He similarly was bagman for similar payments by that cabal to a British spy also illegally hired to slip that fraudulent document into the FBI.

    For those violations of criminal law, Marc Elias escaped prosecution by the FEC (and Bragg who is prosecuting Trump for claimed violations) but he was fined instead.

    Just for context, from that same election, a documentary maker who exceeded the limit for political contributions by a few hundred dollars was prosecuted and spent nearly a year in jail. A meme about Clinton similarly netted the man who created the meme and posted it on Twitter a similar prison sentence from your good friend Merrick Garland.

    2. To hide his criminal payments on behalf of Clinton/Obama/the DNC to these foreign spies, Marc Elias fraudulently entered these payments into his financial records as payments for “legal services” and declared them as such in his tax returns. Is it not criminal to fraudulently submit false financial documents for your business to the IRS?

    When this was exposed by the Inspector General’s report, the IRS that has been diligently searching Trump’s tax returns for years in search of some element of tax fraud simply said “meh…” and gave him a Hunter Biden style pass. (Took a while for whistleblowers to show up?)

    Shouldn’t you have at least made a brief mention of Marc Elias criminal past Professor Turley? Instead of soft soaping that criminal past as a “checkered history”?

    You clearly have a problem with calling your fellow Democrat legal professionals like Merrick Garland and Marc Elias exactly what they are.

    Why?

  17. Jonathan: I’ll get to your column about Marc Elias–but first some more data points about DJT proposed tariffs and how they will have a devastating impact on our economy–raising prices on just about everything and putting workers into the unemployment lines…something I pointed out in my previous comment (11/9@2:07pm). Now we have data from Ohio where businesses are reporting to the state their projected layoffs as a directly or indirectly the result of DJT’s tariffs:

    FCA US–1,135 job cuts by 1/5/25
    PPC Flexible Packaging LLC–68 job cuts by 1/3/25
    Pepsico–136 layoffs by 12/28
    True Value–89 job cuts by 12/21
    DHL–173 job cuts by 12/15
    Libra Industries–45 job cuts by 12/6
    Kalco Inc.–5 job cuts by 11/30
    Cygnus Home Services–92 job cuts by 11/22

    And the above data is only for Ohio. Companies across the country are cutting back on expansion plans and laying off workers in anticipation of DJT’s tariffs. For those on this blog who voted for DJT and live and work in Ohio–you have a rude awakening in store for you!

    1. Jonathan: I’ll get to your column about Marc Elias–but first some more data points about DJT proposed tariffs

      Same sources that had you posting that the Trump campaign was in full panic mode just over a week ago, Dennis, you fraudulent parasite? Same sources that had you dropping Dennis’s Daily Deuces, claiming American women, blacks, and Latinos were going to rise up and crush Trump on election night?

      The same question arises after every single one of your Dennis Drops A Deuce posts here:

      Given that any shred of credibility you ever had was destroyed by your lies long ago, and you hosting your personal blog inside of Professor Turley’s hasn’t changed one person’s mind here… what personal reward do you get from your daily use of Professor Turley’s blog to be the site for your daily lies?

      The only way you can get a feeling of self worth? What is it?

    2. Thank you sooo much Suzie Sunshine for coming here every day to spew out the latest DNC Talking Points! Because the DNC and the Legacy Media are such well-known and respected purveyors of the Truth!

      For example, Biden is as sharp as a tack!

    3. Actually that data taken from the Ohio Department of Job and Family Services says nothing about Trump’s tariffs. You are making things up. It could be equally said those jobs cuts are a direct result of Bidenflation, a much more reasonable assessment as Bidenflation is on-going whereas Trump’s tariffs have yet to be even implemented. Also of note, since Biden took office, corporate bankruptcies are at 2008 FC levels.

      1. It also means that he will be releasing his full report on the cases against trump and all the evidence to the public. By resigning early and closing out the cases he’s required to publish a full report which Garland could release to the public before Trump is sworn in.

        1. It also means that Jack Smith (and to bring you back on topic, please) as well as Mark Elias are quintessential political game-players, trying to go out with a bang instead of a deserved whimper. Enough. Let’s get back on topic. Thank you in advance.

            1. Granted, but did you see how I tried to rein you back in by pointing out the similar tactics between Smith and topic: Marc Elias? Your move.

              1. gYou tried. Similar tactic? Elias is a lawyer which requires he defend his clients. Smith was charged which investigating the allegations against Trump and he filed charges based on evidence. Both did what their jobs required.

                Trump and his supporters wrongly believe that doing their jobs was a crime. If that is true then those seeking to prosecute them and investigate them are also guilty of committing a crime. Irony or cognitive dissonance?

                1. neither, clown.
                  let me answer for her. Lawyers CHOOSE to represent their clients, and discuss with them the strategy and likelihood of success. “Doing their jobs” only refers to representation that has been accepted based on those terms. sluffing it off as a job requirement is as laughable as you are.

        2. Ooooh the evidence the evidence.

          You have had explained to you before the difference between evidence and allegation, yet your idiocy born of ignorance continues.

        3. It also means that he will be releasing his full report on the cases against trump and all the evidence to the public.

          Garland MIGHT do that – despite the effort to tilt the election via warfare lost. What Gigi hoped to skip past is that hurriedly resigning doesn’t provide criminal immunity to Jack Smith, Merrick Garland, or those who worked for him in his re-creation of his 2012 prosecution of Governor Bob McDonnell against Trump.

          Yes, Merrick Garland can do whatever he wants. Meanwhile, the incoming Trump Attorney General AND Senate, can then go through all the emails, messages, etc between both now citizen Jack Smith and citizen Merrick Garland. And their deputies and staff.

          All with a new Attorney General who won’t countenance Democrats like FBI Directors Comey, McCabe, and Wray repeatedly saying “I don’t remember” and deciding that subpoenas can be ignored if you’re a Democrat Attorney General like Eric Holder, a Democrat FBI Director like Wray, or any other Democrat lawyer in the DOJ.

          Gigi, what if the racist corrupt President Ten Percent tries to cover his ass by covering their asses with a claim of ‘Executive Privilege’ to prevent them being interrogated under subpoena?

          Biden can attempt that. Trump can then remind Biden that he declared that Trump did not have ‘executive privilege’ in legal matters, and Trump is now going to do the same for The Big Guy ex-president: declaring in the same way that President Ten Percent does not have ‘executive privilege’.

          Should Trump or the GOP congress choose, both Merrick Garland and Jack Smith could find themselves recipients of subpoenas ordering them to appear before the Senate and House to provide answers while under oath.

          And let’s not forget Lisa Monaco who Biden made Deputy AG under Garland. What a great choice Lisa Monaco was: Jack Smith’s partner in the 2012 prosecution of Governor McDonnell while both were working for Obama.

          Gigi – Special Counsel Jack Smith has direct ties to Joe Biden’s chosen Deputy AG Lisa Monaco! Special Counsels exist to ELIMINATE ties to the DoJ, not to be partners to the AG’s office.

          Talk about low hanging fruit for subpoenas as the person who probably picked her partner in the 2012 McDonnell prosecution to be the “unbiased and unconnected” Special Counsel Jack Smith, who did a template prosecution of Trump that was a cut and paste of his 2012 McDonnell prosecution!

          Sadly, none of this will ultimately be bad news for Gigi the Democrat Fire Ho Of Lies. Nor bad news for Jack Smith, Merrick Garland, Lisa Monaco et al.

          There is little chance that Trump will agree that bringing her cabal of Democrat criminal lawyers to justice is worth it, no matter how much they richly deserve it. Despite deterrence being needed to clean up a corrupt justice system, just as deterrence is needed if you want peace in the face of Iranian Mad Mullahs, Chicom and Putin military aggression.

          Trump will decide that with the next election just two years away, most of his focus and effort has to be delivering on his primary promises made to America and American voters. He has to succeed in the face of the obstruction promised by Soviet Democrats: losing either the House or Senate will make his last two years an exercise in futility.

          Forcing Jack Smith and Merrick Garland to answer for their malfeasance and crimes in the public eye as part of cleaning up the corrupt Biden DoJ they served isn’t going to take precedence over dealing with 20 million Guest Democrat Voter Illegal Aliens, Bidenflation, getting the energy industries back up and running, etc.

          Just as Trump didn’t bring Clinton, Comey, McCabe, Obama’s last two Attorney Generals, Robert Mueller, Marc Elias, etc to criminal account for the crimes they committed related to their illegal Clinton/Obama/Biden/DNC “Trump Russia Dossier”.

          Gigi will be able to chalk Trump not going after them (as she has claimed he would) up as a win.

        4. Those with malicious intent seem boundless in their actions. Despite repeated attacks, Trump has emerged unscathed, while efforts to reverse prior decisions unfold. Instead of discrediting him, Smith’s actions have elevated Trump’s status, casting him as a hero in the eyes of his supporters. Now poised to reclaim the presidency many feel was unjustly taken, Trump appears stronger than ever. This report will cause little harm to him, serving instead to further erode the standing of a Democratic Party whose reputation is already on shaky ground.

    4. * Treasury sec appt nominees such as Scott Bessant, another Paulson fellow etc work on a wholly different economic system that people are unfamiliar with generally. We’ll see.

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