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The Pocket Pardon Strategy and the Final Corruption of the Biden Administration

Below is my column in The Hill on the Biden pardon and how it might not prove as complete a protection for Hunter Biden — or Joe Biden — as the President had hoped. Ironically, the greatest protection for President Biden in continuing investigations in the influence-peddling scandal could prove that very case that he has denounced that recognized presidential immunity for matters that arise during a presidency. Nevertheless, the action confirms the suspicion that Hunter’s bizarre criminal defense strategy may have been based on the assumption that he had a pocket pardon as insurance against any losses in court.

Here is the column:

The most shocking aspect of President Biden pardoning his own son, Hunter, may be that it was not in the least shocking, given the history of the Biden family. This abuse of the pardon power was widely anticipated even by his allies as the president repeatedly denied that he would ever do such a thing as he ran for reelection. Indeed, it may be the single most premeditated unethical act in political history.

However, it may not achieve what President Biden most hopes for: a clean slate for his son and himself in this massive corruption scandal.

Roughly two years ago, I wrote about how Biden might suddenly withdraw from the presidential race in 2024 and pardon his son as a lame-duck president. “The pardon-and-apology approach might appeal to Biden not only as an effort to convert vice into virtue but to justify his withdrawal from the election as a selfless act,” I wrote.

I further noted: “Everyone in Washington would win — except, of course, the public: The Bidens would keep alleged millions in influence-peddling profits; Hunter would not even have to pay his full taxes; members of Congress and the media could avoid taking responsibility for burying the reports of corruption.”

I wrote about the pardon option repeatedly because none of Hunter’s bizarre (and ultimately unsuccessful) criminal defenses made sense unless he felt confident that his father would pardon him in the end. Hunter’s taunting Congress with open contempt of a subpoena and his ridiculous defenses in court were not the actions of someone who feared consequences from these investigations. They were the actions of someone with a pocket pardon.

NBC is reporting that Hunter’s pardon was being discussed in the White House for a long time, even as Biden and his staff were steadfastly denying that he would issue a pardon. As with his years of denying knowledge of Hunter’s business dealings and meeting his clients, Biden simply lied over and over again to the public.

The eventual pardon restored what was a sweetheart deal reached with Special Counsel David Weiss that would have given Hunter immunity to the immediate charges and any unnamed criminal charges. It collapsed in court when Judge Maryellen Noreika expressed shock at such a deal and asked the prosecutor if he had ever seen such a deal offered to any other defendant. He admitted that he had not.

Now, President Biden has recreated an even more sweeping immunity grant through his own powers by pardoning his son not only for the crimes of which he was convicted, but of any crimes committed between Jan. 1, 2014 to Dec. 1, 2024.

Think on that. It would cover anything from perjury to murder.

Now it makes sense why Hunter seemed to be engaged in what I described as a “game of chicken with himself.” As a criminal defense attorney, I noted that wild moves in and outside of the courts would make sense only if he knew that his dad would cover him in the end if everything went poorly — even as the president was assuring the public that he would never do such a thing.

In a final show of contempt for the American people, President Biden waited until a Sunday before an international trip to commit this unethical act. He brushed over his past lies by saying that “From the day I took office, I said I would not interfere with the Justice Department’s decision-making, and I kept my word.” What he actually said, over and over again, was that he would never pardon his son.

For many in the media who helped bury this scandal and showed no interest in pursuing the influence-peddling operation of the Biden family, the pardon was met with uncomfortable shrugs. It is a measure of what you can call “Biden ethics.” In the curious world of Joe Biden, a lie that no one believes is treated the same as the truth.

It is likely to work. There may be little interest in pursuing this corruption scandal with so much to get done in the new administration. However, it is not the absolute “get-out-of-jail-free” card that President Biden would like.

Hunter could still be called to testify before Congress or with investigators on the influence-peddling efforts. If he lies, it will be a new crime for which this pardon would not bar prosecution. He would no longer be able to count on a pocket pardon as an insurance policy.

Short of such continued investigation, the Bidens will have achieved something that would have made John Gotti blush. They were able to pull in millions of alleged influence-peddling proceeds. Hunter was showered with gifts and benefits, from a diamond to a luxury sports car. Various Biden family members reportedly received money from the operation. President Biden was himself accused of knowledge and possible benefits from the influence peddling. He will also be protected by this official act.

This is why I once wrote that the Bidens are the GOATs of influence peddling. While influence peddling is the most common form of corruption in Washington, this city has never seen the likes of the Bidens. The only thing greater than their appetite was their sheer audacity.

In this statement on the pardon before fleeing the jurisdiction for a foreign trip, President Biden notably stated that “in trying to break Hunter, they’ve tried to break me.” Indeed, this corruption scandal is as much about the president as it is about his son. And, as the president previously declared, “No one f—- with a Biden.”

Jonathan Turley is the Shapiro professor of public interest law at George Washington University and the author of “The Indispensable Right: Free Speech in an Age of Rage.”

 

165 thoughts on “The Pocket Pardon Strategy and the Final Corruption of the Biden Administration”

  1. I’m not sure if the POTUS can issue prospective pardons. Maybe some of the other lawyers here know. Here’s the langauage:

    Article II, Section 2, Clause 1 of the U.S. Constitution, provides:

    “The President … shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of impeachment.”

  2. FWIW, I have been watching Rod Blagojevich talking with Tucker Carlson, and there is a lot about Rod’s pardon by Trump. Good discussion:

  3. Biden still needs to close the circle of trust within the La Cosa Biden-Nostra by issuing pardons to all of the crime family participants. The brothers will assuredly get pardons but the rest of the family will need them to protect themselves from money laundering charges as they were recipients of the money sprinkling technique. Silence is only golden when the golden pardon is handed out like Halloween candy!

  4. For those illiberal progressives and resolute Biden apologists on this blog who are well known for their blubbering comments, Trump’s picks for his new Cabinet are “disastrous” with a capital D. Their howling and bawling is a last gasp before their world is turned upside down. An untamed band of brothers and sisters is coming to town that will require them to reimagine themselves despite themselves.
    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/12/trumps-wild-bunch-is-ready-action/

    1. Ron A. Hoffman,
      Well said. Hearing or reading in this case on the good professor’s blog brings a big ol smile to my face! As others have pointed out, Trump’s picks have all the right people upset!

    2. Ron A. Hoffman, I take it you are OK with cabinet picks who have serious sexual abuse allegations and alcoholism as permissible candidates.

      Never mind the lack of qualifications and genuine experience. Hegseth is already facing serious doubts from Republicans because Trump did a poor job vetting him. No wonder Trump wanted to skip the confirmation hearings. He tried to install loyalists without the consent and confirmation of the Senate per the Constitution.

      1. Allegations, one and all. I can allege that George kicks puppies and pisses on orphans in his spare time. Do we take all allegations as pure, unadulterated fact?

  5. There is no question this has been THE most corrupt administration the United States has ever seen, and there is no way that clown got 81 million votes given the *undeniable* clean sweep and relative numbers of this year. Do not tell me the Obama globalists did not very nearly seize our country, and thank the gods they failed in that endeavor.

    Not much any of us can do about this but let them know our eyes are open: wide, wide open. At least in this country, the sham the modern left has become, is done. May we lead the way for other people that are just now finding their courage and sense. We can have a world that works for everyone, but not with modern leftists on board. Let Bernie and his ilk start their own party and stop riding coattails – we’ll see how well that goes and how far they get. The thing they don’t seem to understand is that none of us give a sheet about their wealth or ‘celebrity’, it does not impress, and the time of despots is rapidly coming to a close on earth.

    If you are still defending any of this, get your head checked.

  6. To help us understand D McIntyre, Gigi, George, etc., I present this term from the Political Dictionary:

    Bomb Thrower

    A “bomb thrower” is used metaphorically to describe a person — often a politician or political operative — who uses provocative, inflammatory, or extreme rhetoric to disrupt the status quo or incite controversy.

    This term does not refer to any form of physical violence but is used to characterize the aggressive and often disruptive nature of the individual’s political discourse.

    A “bomb thrower” is typically known for making bold, controversial statements or accusations, often with the intent of drawing attention to themselves or their cause, or to provoke a reaction from their opponents.

    They may use sensationalism or even misinformation to create a dramatic impact.

    Their rhetoric is often designed to polarize, drawing clear lines between different political factions and fueling intense debate.

    The role of a “bomb thrower” can be strategic within a political context.

    By creating controversy or drawing attention to certain issues, they can shift the focus of public discourse, influence the political narrative, or galvanize support among their base.

    They can also serve as a distraction, drawing attention away from other issues or controversies.

    https://politicaldictionary.com/words/bomb-thrower/

    1. @Floyd: To help us understand D McIntyre, Gigi, George, etc., I present this term from the Political Dictionary:

      How about this very brief and accurate definition from the Common Urban Dictionary:

      Vicious pathological lying pieces of shyte.

    2. * There’s a trans bomb before SCOTUS today. What bomb is next. Should be a cluster bomb coming.

  7. My compliments to the several trolls, who continue to type endless, prolix posts after their Captain has scuttled the ship. Mind you render a salute as she founders.

  8. When Gigi shows pissed and foaming at the mouth today, while she include the usual insult “Turls, how much is Fox paying you to spew your MAGat lies?”

    Seems a fair question as I first read this in The Hill before seeing it here.

  9. For every leftist screaming (which is all that they do these days) so and so is a narcisist, a liar, a criminal, hundreds of thousands of children and American Jews held by Hamas (likely now dead hostages), scream for justice.

    A few days ago it was reported Hamas released the dead body of Cpt. Omer Neutra, an American Jewish hostage. Hamas has kept the dead hostages in their possession as bargaining chips, all which happened on Biden’s watch.

    Then there are the millions of immigrants who have paid thousands of dollars to “coyotes” to transport them to the US Border, only to take their money and abandon them….all which happened on Biden’s watch. The desperation of the immigrants is outdone by the desperation of the Bidens narcicism, esp Jill and Hunter Biden.

    If there is any justice, SCOTUS will move to hold Joseph Biden a traitor to America and deal with him and his accomplices as allowed by law.

    IDF says US-Israeli hostage Cpt. Omer Neutra killed on Oct. 7 and his body held in Gaza
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/after-over-a-year-idf-confirms-us-israeli-hostage-cpt-omer-neutra-killed-on-oct-7/

    ====

    President Biden, Where Are the Children?

    Over 300,000 unaccompanied migrant children who crossed the U.S. border during the Biden-Harris administration are unaccounted for. An internal Department of Homeland Security (DHS) report dated Aug. 19, 2024, confirms this alarming statistic, highlighting a profound failure in our duty to protect the most vulnerable.

    The DHS report reveals that Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) has lost track of at least 32,000 unaccompanied migrant children, with the whereabouts of up to 323,000 remaining unknown. Without a doubt, we cannot deny the fact that many of these children are now tools and victims of the human sex trafficking industry – a heinous trade that represents the worst of the worst.
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2024/12/04/president_biden_where_are_the_children_152036.html

    NB: sex trafficking does involve the worst of the worst but not to the likes of Hunter Biden’s father and step-mother.

    1. Someday it will be disclosed who in the federal government was paid by the cartels to look the other way while our borders were breached, and how much. To paraphrase, this invasion “has all the classic earmarks” of an internal smuggling operation.

  10. . . . the Bidens are the GOATs of influence peddling . . .

    They’re tied with the Clintons for #1.

  11. Jonathan: This is your second column this week about the Hunter Biden pardon. Why the obsession with the Biden family? I mean, Joe is leaving office on Jan. 20, 2025. But you have turned the Biden family “corruption scandal” into a cottage industry–but unfortunately for you with no results. Despite your many calls Joe Biden was never impeached. I suspect the real reason for you obsession with the Biden family is distraction–avoiding having to discusses DJT’s disastrous picks for his new Cabinet and his continuing violation of the Presidential Transition Act.

    In your column you admit the obvious: “There may be little interest in pursuing this corruption scandal with so much to get done in the new administration”. Not so. Jim Comer, the Chair of the House Oversight Committee, indicates to wants to continue to investigate the Biden family “corruption scandal”: “I look forward to talking to Attorney General [Pam] Bondi about this…”. Comer is jumping the gun by assuming Bondi will be confirmed by the Senate.

    Comer is in a bad position. He spent years going after the Biden family–and in particular Hunter. But when push came to shove Comer came up with nothing to implicate the Biden family in some vast “corruption scandal”. Despite all your columns attacking the Bidens, Comer could never produce any actual evidence to impeach Joe Biden–not one scintilla of evidence that Hunter was funneling money to his father.

    So, yes, Comer will spend much of the next four years still going after Hunter. He will probably call Hunter to testify. Kind of ironic because Hunter did offer to testify in open session in the last congress. Comer refused the offer because he was afraid of the truth coming out.

    What Comer will not do is investigate Jared Kushner and the billions he made while working in the Oval Office. Nor will Comer investigate how Jared pushed through the pardon of his father–corruptly using the pardon power in violation of pardon protocols. Comer won’t even investigate DJT’s continued violations of the Emoluments or his violation of the Presidential Transition Act. The “vast corruption” of the second DJT administration will be off-limits for Comer.

    One thing to remember. After Ford pardoned Nixon, the disgraced president went into peaceful exile at San Clemente. There was no congressional investigations of all his crimes. Do you really think Hunter Biden, who never held public office, deserves more scrutiny than Nixon got? Your column must be a joke. Right?

    1. Classic whataboutism. Distract, distract, distract. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. For once, just accept guilt and keep your mouth shut!

    2. Jonathan: This is your second column this week about the Hunter Biden pardon. Why the obsession with the Biden family?

      Professor Turley, your dear friend Dennis is obsessed with rage that you have reminded him yet again that he is a very minuscule cog (a poorly functioning one) in the Biden White House Crime LLC criminal syndicate.

      He’s further obsessed that you’re articulating in detail that all of this is is consistent with Soviet Democrat strategy with how they attempt to handle widespread Soviet Democrat party criminality:

      Please Don’t Believe Your Lying Eyes™

      Dennis McIntyre: on your subjects of “Do you remember” and “Your column must be a joke”.

      Do you remember that every day you are called out as a vicious, lying and abjectly cowardly cull without even a single speck of credibility?

      And that you’re regularly reminded that your very existence on this earth is considered to be your mother’s joke on the entire world?

      Dennis, you are a cheap fake perverted American. One who slimes this blog every single day because trolling and insulting your host is your only means of obtaining sexual gratification.

      2. It’s not hate. It’s just criticism. Which is to be expected and enccouraged by Turley if he truly believes in the idea of free speech. Once he pens a column he’s fair game for criticism, mockery, derision, and yes, even insults.

    4. Dennis, I perceive you are a democrat. What’s preventing prosecutors from going after Joe and forcing Hunter to testify as he has no 5th protection.
      I’m an Independent and believe both should be held accountable for their crimes. Trump is a moral degenerate and Biden has used his offices to generate wealth.
      It amazes me how someone in the House or Senate can get elected with no personal wealth yet be millionaires in a short period of time

    5. The good professor is no more obsessed with Hunter Biden than you are coming here everyday to spew your lies. The difference is, the good professor is pointing out the corruption of the BCF. The two tiered justice system. How the corrupt DOJ/FBI cover for the BCF, while prosecuting using lawfare against the BCF political enemies. You may want to read Lin’s comment at 10:07 AM. Lin, who is an actual lawyer, sums it up quite well while you have to delve into your usual lies.

  12. And to all those who thought that Biden’s obsession with pouring arms and money into Ukraine was actually about “saving democracy” — the great money launderer fooled you again!

    1. “the great money launderer fooled you again!”

      Biden is too stupid to fool anybody. Those idiots fooled themselves.

  13. The Hunter pardon is not at all surprising, especially after the scorched earth Roy Cohn esque slime campaign you and your cohorts directed at him in order to get to Joe, Turley.

    Did Joe go back on his word? Yes…, but not as much as he did in making the decision to run again…

    And face it, the pardon power, like impeachment and the prospect of legally holding a president accountable for their crimes has become a joke. Hell, Trump SOLD them in his first term in office.

    Love that you clowns on the right are trying the same double standards game that you’ve become accustomed to: R’s can do whatever they want while D’s can’t even wear a brown suit.

    Sketchy as it may be, at least a D is fighting back. Not fighting back is what has cost them votes. Glad to see the D’s waking the f#$k up.

    Now we can all turn our attention to trump’s drunken rapist nom at DOD. Or his Russian asset nom for DNI. Or k$h buddy at FBI. You know the star wars bar of it all.

    F#$k you, magats.

        1. “Trump sold pardons. That’s his business model. Full stop.”

          You are a Democrat liar. Lying is the one and only support pillar of the Democratic party business model. Full stop.”

          1. Look, I’ve actually done business with trump org. So I’ve seen the man at work.

            Just curious about your willfull blindness though…, and why you think what are the facts about Trump should be ignored in favor of your cartoon version of how he does business?

            Trump took millions in foreign bribes through his inauguration fund in ’16. He ran a hotel during his administration that further funneled foreign bribes to him and his family. His son in law walked off with 2 billion from the Saudis he’s done nothing to justify. Trump upped the antenna with sketchy fundraising after leaving office…

            It’s not that he’s even trying to hide what he’s doing…, yeah the mouth breathers like Miller and Homan really want immigrant concentration camps, but Trump just wants construction kickbacks from the building of the camps. Seems you’re the liar. To yourself, because trump is right out in the open with what he’s doing. Courts determined in his first term he massively violated around emoluments, there just weren’t any teeth in the law because no one ever violated the way trump has.

            1. “Look, I’ve actually done business with trump org. So I’ve seen the man at work. ”

              Look, the last time we were reading your claimed street creds, you were one of the 51 intelligence experts assuring us the Biden Bribery Laptop was “just Putin election campaign disinformation”.

              Yeah, you mouth breather birthing boys don’t even try and hide what you’re doing.

              So why are you here Anonymously… terrified Trump is going to send Seal Team Six to hunt you down if you posted with a username?

              Pathetic useless goof.

      2. Thing is Johnnie say, trump knows how stupid you are for thinking he wouldn’t sell pardons. His read on you is that you think he’s a bad businessman for not doing it. Boris got caught for shaking down cabinet picks…, newsflash…, it’s not that he was shaking people down in trump world that’s problematic. It’s that he didn’t kick it all down to trump.

        You’re a moron.

          1. To be clear farmer, Magats aren’t winning so much with Gaetz gone, Hegseth soon to follow. K$h buddy should go down, too. DEA guy gone. If Tulsi gets DNI, the heads of the agencies will run false intell by her knowing they can weponize it on the Russians. They’ll let her plan the Christmas parties.

            The first clue you obviously missed was the senate kicking Scott and Cornyn to the curb and installing Thune as leader. Next two years comes down to Thune and Jeffries working behind the scenes as trump grifts it out. And Jeffries isn’t going to bail Johnson out on gov’t shutdowns anymore.

      3. Tump dangled pardons to those who were willing to do the dirty work for him. Giuliani was relying on a pardon since he pardoned Stone and Manafort.

        Trump will offer pardons to anyone willing to break the law for his beneffit. Now that he cannot be prosecuted for “official” acts such as a pardon. I’m sure you’re not that naive John Say.

  14. Even the judge overseeing Hunter’s tax evasion case has called out Joe Biden for his dishonest mischaracterization of facts when granting the pardon. The judge noted that while the pardon may be constitutional, a president’s power to “rewrite history” is not found in the Constitution.
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/judge-in-hunter-biden-s-tax-case-blasts-joe-biden-for-rewriting-history-with-son-s-pardon/ar-AA1vegba

    Moreover, Joe Biden shoots himself in the foot by claiming that no one else who did what Hunter did was treated the same. (Remember that Judge Noreika in Special Counsel David Weiss’s proffered “sweetheart deal” –granting immunity to Hunter for not only the prosecuted charges but also any unnamed criminal charges– questioned the prosecutor if he had ever seen such a deal offered to any other defendant. He responded that he had not.) The deal fell through. Not to worry. Father Biden to the rescue with the pardon.
    Indeed, no other defendant seems to have been treated like Hunter –at least twice now–.

    2. The deal fell through. Not to worry. Father Biden to the rescue with the pardon.

      Indeed Lin. And what exactly is the difference, in substance, between this pardon and it’s initial version that failed? The massive, all encompassing Get Out Of Jail Free For Anything You’ve Done Up Until Now “plea deal” from prosecutors so very different than those hunting down J6 participant with every imaginable charge in hand?

      Any differences between the two that are significant?

      And does anyone actually believe that Merrick Garland, who Professor Turley has regularly lauded with respect, wasn’t asked for his approval by those prosecutors before that historical (in infamy) plea deal was offered?

      If that had gone before any of the judges who have presided over Trump trials, it would have gone through the courtroom to approval faster than shyte goes through a goose. A day or two of grumbling and outrage for the slap on the wrist accompanying sentence with minimal fines and no jail time “sentence”, and that would have been it. The Biden presidential legacy would have been saved (???) because Biden wouldn’t have had to pardon his son to keep him from jail.

      The fallback position to that was the expectation that Kamala Harris would win the election. Biden then left office with his son unpardoned – Harris would do that in her first days in office before he spent a day in prison.

      But both those saving mechanisms to shield Biden White House Crime LLC criminality failed. And so here we are today.

    3. LIn, you forget that Weiss was pressured by Republicans to charge Hunter for crimes that would never have been charged if his name were Biden. The judge can rail all he wants. But ultimately it’s still Biden’s prerogative as president to pardon for any reason. Trump exercised his pardon powers for similar questionable reasons. Trump supporters have been crying foul and clutching pearls while ignoring the mounting troubles if his cabinet picks. If they are already this problematic it does not mean it’s a good sign.

      1. Thanks, George: In addition to Trump’s nominees being unqualified, inexperienced, conflicted, and some of them just bad people–sexual assaulters, drunks, bullies, financial mismanagers, sympathetic to Putin and Syria, brain worm eaten–what’s interesting is the fact that Trump doesn’t seem to know any decent, qualified people who are willing to be named. I mean, aren’t there at least SOME generals or FBI professionals or physicians with public health experience out there that could be nominated? There’s talk about pulling Hegseth and replacing him with DeSantis. How many of these nominees talked trash about Trump in the past? DeSantis and Gaetz sure did. But, as others have acknowledged, the main qualifying parameter is unquestioned willingness to do whatever Trump tells them to do.

        1. George and Gigi: I now understand why you each eagerly support the other in confirmation bias, even when (regularly) devoid of fact.

          David Weiss REQUESTED his appointment as special counsel.
          He also blasted Biden’s claims of right-wing bias
          https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/appointment-special-counsel-2
          https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/16/politics/hunter-biden-special-counsel-response/index.html

          Please try to stick to the facts; it would save much wasted space on this great site.
          Thank you in advance.

          1. p.s. as you both know or should know, Weiss was approved by both Republican and Democrat senators. Republicans took umbrage only at Weiss’ proffered plea deal for Hunter, which failed. As Gigi likes to demand, please provide your support for the comment that Republicans pressured Weiss. Who pressured him and what charges were demanded? Your non-specific response will be construed as pure partisan opinion. thanks in advance.

            1. Lin,
              Well done! This is what it looks like when TDS hacks go up against actual real lawyers who bring facts to the table.

  15. I wonder how much of the $1 billion of US tax dollars Biden just “gave” to Angola will be kicked back to the Biden crime family. Don’t be surprised if we see Biden on a worldwide grand tour getting collections along the way before he leaves office.

  16. Turley’s closing line, quite apropos. And exactly what we were thinking. The real question for me has always been why Obama would choose to partner with Joe Biden who very obviously harbored great disdain for black folks in America, as evidenced for decades. Who would formulate such a collaboration, unless corruption itself were the goal? What exactly will Hunter tell us, having forfeited the Fifth?

    1. “why Obama would choose to partner with Joe Biden who very obviously harbored great disdain for black folks in America”

      You don’t think that Obama has every bit as much disdain for ordinary black folks, or as little care for the disastrous consequences of his actions to those people, as long as he gets his way, as Biden? Think again.

      1. Everything. Biden’s America is outrageous, and it is understandable why ewe would object to be reminded of how awful Joseph Biden’s presidency has been. But facts matter, and NYC is a hell hole thanks to George Soros DA Alvin Bragg

        1. This will be a very long comment section, indeed, if we start to include every piece of news in “Biden’s America”. Besides, professional ‘hit jobs’ (and it looks like that this shooting was just that) have been going on in NYC well before you were born and had nothing to do with Biden

  18. Is the presidential pardon valid if the president is determined to be medically incompetent at the time the pardon was granted or, alternatively, must the vice-president invoke the 22nd amendment first?

    1. Talk about hypothetical. Do you really think Joe would would step down now do to incompetence (actually a Harris advisor suggested this) thus jeopardizing his pardon? Or do you think that Kami would have Joe removed under the 25th (assuming it could even be done in 6 weeks) thus exposing her (and Obama’s) knowledge that Joe has been incompetent for sometime?

      Maybe you envision there is some SWAT team of government medics that will then swarm in before 1-20-25, do an assessment and then complete their report to Congress in time? Of course you realize that such a report will end their bureaucratic careers as the first thing that will be asked: ‘You did not have this suspicion from observation before?’

      The pardon is a done deal. Live with it in the context of reality.

    1. Diogenes, back then the communists were marching for Britain and the US to stay out of the war and the very next day they were marching to have Britain open up the second front. The left has always been USEFUL IDIOTS for the commies and they will always chose whatever harms the west the most. See “climate” marches against only the west, just as we had anti-nuke marches against only the west.

    1. Upstate: Good one!
      –And Vincente’s 10:03 comment (supra) about Biden’s massive contribution to Angola could add a third trophy to his legacy: Bidenola!

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