Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., is under fire for her statement to Joy Reid on MSNBC explaining why Luigi Mangione allegedly murdered UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson. Warren explained that this was a “warning ” that “you can only push people so far.” After a public outcry, Warren walked back her statement. Yet, the statement captures the growing radicalism on the left, particularly among anti-capitalist, Democratic Socialists, and other groups. It is also notable how many of the same political and media figures who were apoplectic and unrelenting over the false claim about Trump’s “fine people on both sides” statement are largely disinterested in this and other extreme comments on the left.
Reid has long been criticized for racist and extremist commentary. Warren seemed eager to play to the far-left audience after first noting that “Violence is never the answer,” but then adding the warning to others that “you can only push people so far, and then they start to take matters into their own hands.”
The senator explained that
“the visceral response from people across this country who feel cheated, ripped off, and threatened by the vile practices of their insurance companies should be a warning to everyone in the health care system.
Violence is never the answer, but people can be pushed only so far. This is a warning that if you push people hard enough, they lose faith in the ability of their government to make change, lose faith in the ability of the people who are providing the health care to make change, and start to take matters into their own hands in ways that will ultimately be a threat to everyone.”
The comments came after various pundits and citizens celebrated the killing, including the former Washington Post journalist Taylor Lorenz, who expressed “joy” over the murder (only to walk that back like Warren). Some have defended Lorenz and explained how, while they may not express joy, they understand where “she is coming from” in celebrating the murder of a healthcare executive.
Wanted posters have appeared throughout New York with the images of other CEOs (and of Thompson with a red X across his face).
It is the same moral relativism that we have long seen in higher education on the left where violent rhetoric against conservatives or capitalists is common.
As previously discussed, such statements include professors writing about “detonating white people,” abolish[ing] white people, denouncing police, calling for Republicans to suffer, strangling police officers, celebrating the death of conservatives, calling for the killing of Trump supporters, supporting the murder of conservative protesters and other outrageous statements.
We also discussed the free speech rights of University of Rhode Island professor Erik Loomis, who defended the murder of a conservative protester and said that he saw “nothing wrong” with such acts of violence. (Loomis, who has written for the New York Times, was later made Director of Graduate Studies of History at Rhode Island).
It is unclear if Mangione’s anti-capitalist views brought him into contact with known violent groups on the left, including Antifa. Just days before the murder, I wrote about how a liberal media site was selling Antifa products in celebration of the anti-free speech, violent group.
The different treatment given the statements of Trump and Warren are striking. Notably, the false claim received endless coverage and is still reported by the media despite being debunked. The Charlottesville controversy occurred at the start of Trump’s presidency and showed how the media was not interested in whether stories were true in the shift to open advocacy journalism.
What was evident to many of us listening was that Trump was referring to the debate over the removal of controversial historical statutes and noting that there were “very fine people on both sides.” As Snopes belatedly recognized years later, “while Trump did say that there were ‘very fine people on both sides,’ he also specifically noted that he was not talking about neo-Nazis and white supremacists and said they should be ‘condemned totally.'”
None of that mattered (or continues to matter to some) in the media because the narrative was better than the facts. Many in the media did not even acknowledge that Trump denied the spin given by his opponents and said that he was referring to the underlying issue of the protest. The statement was treated as demonstrably and unequivocally endorsing violence. It is the same reason why the statement of Warren and many on the left have not been given the same level of public condemnation even in the face of an actual murder. It does not fit the narrative.
Many celebrated Warren’s warning and the implied rationalization for the murder. Others praised her gutsy take.
The far-left publication The New Republic reported the Warren statement in positive terms in an article titled “Senator Elizabeth Warren had an awfully real reaction to the shooting of the UnitedHealthcare CEO.”
TNR has been one of the promulgators of this story and attacked Trump in 2024 in what it called a “new” defense over his comments despite the fact that he has always maintained that he was referring to the overall protest over the monument. TNR also attacked Snopes for its fact check and “helping Trump.”
As I discuss in my book, “The Indispensable Right: Free Speech in an Age of Rage,” politicians use rage rhetoric to ride waves of public anger and garner supporters on the extremes of our political system. The same motive has led some Democratic leaders to embrace Antifa in the past. However, these establishment figures often find that being embraced as a revolutionary today often means that you are viewed as a reactionary tomorrow by the same radical allies in these movements.
Jonathan Turley is the Shapiro Professor of Public Interest Law at George Washington University. He is the author of “The Indispensable Right: Free Speech in an Age of Rage.”
Inside each of these liberals* beats the heart of a college sophomore with no life experience, no wisdom, no judgment, no value for human life, and no practical abilities. They try to be grown up, but they leak. For Sen. Warren in particular, her latest leakage has been to support, in her professorial way, murder.
*We used to say “bleeding heart liberal”, but they really prefer others to bleed.
Is she trying to normalize violence?
Whatever gets her elected. It’s just more pandering, which is something at which she excels.
How about she’s making a point taht non-political? Who hasnt had to deal with the healthcare system and been at the least frustrated, if not f-ed over.
Just because Warren said it, you as radid Rep, have to attack her?
What if Trump mouthed that?
(politicians use rage rhetoric to ride waves of public anger and garner supporters on the extremes of our political system. ) Why is this rhetoric reminding me more and more each day of 11789 and 1914?
1789 (not quite done with my coffee yet – pardon the typo
…And again, another part of the deep state lies in an attempt to destroy the credibility of Pete Hegseth, appointed as Secretary of Defense by Donald J. Trump. The left and Democrats will stop at nothing to gain power and remove the rights and liberties of anyone in their path.
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Tom Cotton calls on West Point to investigate reports it lied to the press
West Point said the discrepancy on Hegseth’s relationship with the school was because of an “administrative error” but that a further review confirmed that he was accepted into West Point in 1999, but did not attend the university.
Republican Arkansas Sen. Tom Cotton on Wednesday called for the U.S. Military Academy at West Point to conduct an internal investigation into allegations that it repeatedly lied to a member of the press about Defense Secretary nominee Pete Hegseth.
A reporter at ProPublica claimed that an official at the school told them on the record twice that Hegseth was never accepted into the military academy, and had lied about his relationship with the school. Hegseth claimed that he was accepted to the school, but did not attend, which the academy has since confirmed.
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The reporter didn’t bother to write about the lies provided by West Point.
https://justthenews.com/government/congress/tom-cotton-calls-west-point-conduct-internal-investigation-reports-it-lied?utm_source=daily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter
S. Meyer: I did not hear anything about West Point and Hegseth until today, but what I DID hear and see about him is disturbing–multiple people who worked with him quoted as saying he is chronically drunk. There is a police report that he sexually assaulted a woman There’s the video of him throwing a hatchet in Midtown Manhattan, taking out a West Point drummer. There are several videos of interviews with him saying that women don’t belong in combat positions, that there are too many minorities in the military, and he straight up lied about the military lowering standards to let in women. All of that aside, he has NO significant experience in leading any kind of complex organization. And, one of his many tattoos is also used by a white supremacy group.
So, apparently the MAGA media spin is to take whatever error West Point made and use that as an excuse to overlook all of the other disqualifying reasons to vote against him.
Gigi: Seth Meyer is correct.
Because this is OT, I will not expand further except to refer to my general disdain for partisan, dishonest media, and the shrug by the likes of you to dismiss its significance as, “whatever error West Point made.”
Kinda like Omar’s dismissal of 9/11, n’est ce pas?
“S. Meyer: I did not hear anything about West Point and Hegseth until today, but what I DID hear and see about him is disturbing–multiple people who worked with him quoted as saying he is chronically drunk. ”
Gigi, neither of your comments has any meaning regarding Pete Hegseth’s qualifications. Instead, your comments show that you lack critical thinking skills.
1) You are not hearing about West Point, which demonstrates that you are unaware of the day’s events and comment without knowledge.
2) “people who worked with him quoted as saying…”
Did you ever hear of the hearsay rule? Hearsay is not used in court for obvious reasons. Do you know why? No. That is above your skill set.
Let me explain it to you in simple terms. People who are around you are quoted as saying you are a prostitute. That is a true statement based on your logic. Should we believe it?
The next statements require proof, but let me inform you that Pete is not the perfect man. No one is.
I’ll take one of those statements requiring contextual understanding. “videos of interviews with him saying that women don’t belong in combat positions”
I understand why you object to that statement. You believe men and women are identical and think men should be permitted in the girl’s dressing room naked so they can get stimulated by naked ten-year-olds. Your beliefs are perverted in our culture but you have no concern over other people, even children.
“you can only push people so far.”
According to the Left, capitalists are oppressors. So Mangione is not a murderer. He’s a liberator who acted out his “lived experience.”
Thank you Leftists. And thank you UPenn for creating another anti-capitalist monster.
I thought you had indicated a while ago that you are a free market proponent. Capitalism thrives and works best in a free market. Any government interference in markets distorts capitalism; blatant, heavy-handed interference sometimes does so beyond all recognition. The healthcare and healthcare insurance rackets, ah, businesses in this country are a truly unholy marriage between government and non-government entities, and are just about as far from the ideal of a free market as it is possible to get without outright government control of the entire apparatus. In fact, if possible, what we currently have, thanks to diligent and dedicated a-holes like Obama, might manage the difficult feat of being even be a worse atrocity than pure, unadulterated, Marxist socialized medicine. Your criticism of Warren is well justified, but I must challenge your characterization of the healthcare insurance business.
“I must challenge your characterization of the healthcare insurance business.”
I didn’t characterize it as anything. I merely summarized the Left’s argument for rationalizing murder.
Turley is joining in on the faux outrage wagon, I see. Everyone, including the mainstream media, is condemning the murder. However, It also exposes a truth that even most Republicans hesitate to admit. There is minimal sympathy for the CEO’s demise. Because after the murder, it became pretty clear why. Insurance companies have been using AI to deny claims at an unprecedented level, and that new ‘tool’ is highly profitable.
Now, I see some trying to lay blame on former President Obama for the anger and the healthcare system, but these kinds of tactics were common even before the ACA was enacted. Let’s not overlook that it was the Republicans who diluted the regulations to such an extent that insurance companies are now free to operate in ways we’re just beginning to uncover. It’s already evident in Medicare Advantage, where private companies are denying claims at a much higher rate than Medicare proper, and there is already a push to privatize Medicare entirely. Medicare is more efficient and cost-effective than private health insurance, and certain Libertarians and conservatives in Congress don’t like that. Anything that performs better than in the private industry must not be allowed to operate according to their views.
If the ACA retained all of its original provisions, none, very little of the problems we have in healthcare now would be present. For example, the simple idea of letting government negotiate drug prices is opposed because it will undermine the insane profit margins of big pharmaceutical companies. That does not mean they shouldn’t be allowed to make a profit. Like with anything else, prices should be able to be negotiated. That’s how every other government worldwide operates and maintains a better healthcare system than ours. Healthcare is right. If you think there is a right to life, then there is undoubtedly a right to maintain it. Republicans treat it as if it were a privilege and the best if you can afford it. That’s wrong, and that’s why some consider what happened to the CEO unsurprising and have the tiniest sympathy.
I take it that George doesn’t drive because if he had ever dealt with the DMV he would be struck with terror with the thought of those same bureaucrats controlling his health care system.
Whimsicalmama,
Just scroll past. It’s comments are not worth the time to read.
Sorry, George, you have merely demonstrated the validity of Prof. Turley’s point: You claim to have “little sympathy” for the murder, because “Insurance companies have been using AI to deny claims at unprecedented levels.” No cite. And, “if you think there is a right to life, then there is undoubtedly a right to maintain it.” Say what?! If you can’t avoid having to pay for your breast reduction surgery, you think murder should be legal? Nice.
“If you can’t avoid having to pay for your breast reduction surgery, you think murder should be legal? Nice.”
Ah the absurdity of oversimplifying an example. I’m sure you know there are more complicated medical issues than breast reduction which is a an elective rather than a necessary medical procedure.
I’m sure you have the mental agility to find out for yourself if some of my statements have some merit. I hear Google is very helpful. Professor Turley is engaging in a mild smear of Senator Warren because of what she said even after she clarified what she meant. He used the statement to whine and groan about the “dangers of the left” or the “violent left”. He’s pandering to your gullibility and hes very good at it. You didn’t notice?
George is priming himself for a big day of multiple posts filled with lies: Turley is joining in on the faux outrage wagon, I see.
“George” may be the username of Jonathan Gruber, posting yet again to channel his own sins and evil on Republicans. Remember him?
Remember when George was promising everybody “If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor; if you like your health care plan you can keep your health care plan”? That wasn’t Republicans.
Remember “Under Obamacare, the average family will save $2,500 a year!” That wasn’t Republicans.
ACA Architect Jonathan Gruber: ‘The Stupidity Of The American Voter’ Led Us To Hide Obamacare’s True Costs From The Public
https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2014/11/10/aca-architect-the-stupidity-of-the-american-voter-led-us-to-hide-obamacares-tax-hikes-and-subsidies-from-the-public/
Would there also be “minimal sympathy” if we learned that some similar psycho discovered who George was and murdered him in the exact same manner because George/Jonathan Gruber was lying about Obamacare and their health had suffered due to Obamacare?
@George
People say it every day: you are an idiot. And it should be very clear at this point that no one is listening to your ilk, and nobody cares. 2026 is going to be even worse for you folks, the way you are tripling down on your foolishness. Enjoy your hate and your vitriol all by yourself. Your money can’t buy you love, and that is a fact. The vast, vast majority of the rest of us are moving on, the best we can after the dumpster fire you have created.
Under Liz Warren’s paradigm J6 defendants can say, “yes, what I did was wrong, but that election pushed me too far”.
Isn’t that what we are supposed to think about hunter biden???? or for that matter any spouse that kills their other etc. etc. etc…. But if you think about it; that is exactly the reason toddlers use when they are caught.
Hullbobby, and they were also held accountable because what they did was wrong. Even if most Republicans cheered and supported them. Right?
George is relieved that as one of the violent mobsters that participated in the day long assault on the White House a few months before J6, he was never held accountable for participating in that riot and his repeated attempt to murder Capitol Police by throwing Molotov Cocktails at them.
George knew that attempting to get into the White House to murder Trump ans his family wasn’t actually wrong – the Trump family deserved it just like this CEO who was murdered in such cowardly fashion.
That’s about right, George? One standard equally applied to all?
Hullbobby, and they were also held accountable because what they did was wrong. Even if most Republicans cheered and supported them. Right?
50 Secret Service agents injured in White House riots as Donald Trump is taken to ‘terror attack’ bunker
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11752998/trump-secure-bunker-friday-george-floyd-protests-white-house/
Even with the childish lies and double standards, George has all the character and appeal of a used condom laying in the dirt of a back alley.
The very first comment I encounter this morning is a terrible comment from yet another “anonymous” saying in effect that denial of reimbursement by an insurance company is justification for murder. I am appalled at this, yet people on the political left and Democrats are fine by it.
I don’t know that the specifics of any denial of coverage by the company that allegedly motivated Mr Mangione, but one immutable characteristic of people is that they believe they are entitled to unlimited spending by third parties for their needs. Healthcare spending is especially prone to this because people are enormously irrational and ignorant about their health. If there is to be any health insurance market at all, or any market of any kind, that market has to be able to make rational decisions about all aspects of the business, but mainly spending. Not all medical decisions are made with pure intentions. There is “health care” that is not care at all. Gender affirming care comes to mind. There is credible research that one-third of health care spending is unneeded and quite a bit is actually harmful. The only way for stability in a system of third-party payers, irrational customers, and a professional health care community with a wide variety of motivations and not possessing perfect knowledge, is to place some limits on claims — sometimes through exclusions and outright denial of some claims.
Democrats would prefer a world in which they could make decisions ad hoc so that the perfect solution to all problems would be achieved. We have all seen or read about such worlds. None of us would want to live in them.
Probably my comment. I stand by it, but your response dosen’t fully address the issue.
Outright denial? So the industry gets to decide who to let die and who not?
Is your live not worth something?
Could you not, for instance, also claim that if a bank denies a mortgage to a homeless person then that homeless person is released from the charge of murder if he assassinates the bank official that denied his application? That is just insane to contemplate allowing the individual the decision as to whether something is a crime or not. This sounds very much like the blather from some faculty lounge out of touch with reality.
Bank = healthcare. Apples and oranges. You rfesponse is truly whimsicalmama.
#1-please provide some significant examples, undisputed, that withholding payment led to deaths.
#2-Health care costs are up by a factor of 2.43 over the past 25 years. That works out to a compound rate of 3.6%. Not exactly price gouging. The Federal budget is up 3.84 times over the same period. That’s a compound rate of 5.5% annually. The cause of that is an immature population expecting others to pay for them in all manner of things, combined with opportunistic activists and politicians.
Those things having been said. I am not a defender of insurance company policies. I had two drivers get into a collision in the oncoming lane toward me last August. In order to replace my car, I got a so-called market payment on which I had to pony up an additional $5,000 to just replace my car. I wrote a detailed complaint to my insurance commission pointing out the biased process leading to the underpayment, plus insurance company not doing what they promised, and telling fibs in a couple of ways in writing. It’s an official complaint that may even lead to changes in the way appraisals are made. What have you done, yourself, to help the situation besides “poor us”?
That having beed said, what was the underlying cause of my loss and underpayment? Well, that would be two immature and irresponsible drivers. Thank goodness I got what insurance adjustment I did.
Lets see if I got this right: you can only push people so far. Based on that, is that not how the USA originated? Suffering under a depostic monarch?
Fast forward, the 2024 election. Trump won because people were pushed too far with leftist ideology. If Trump mouth something like that, its acceptable. If a fake democratic indian mouths it, it evil.
People, think. If you can.
Beneath the rhetoric of Warren and the Democrat machine, there is contempt for anyone in opposition and a sick approval of those who use violent means and criminality to fulfill their lust for power.
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Comer sets two new targets: evidence of Democrat money-laundering and Biden-protecting bureaucrats
Comer revealed to Just the News that the Biden Treasury Department has told Congress it has more than 400 suspicious activity reports — money laundering alerts — involving the ActBlue fundraising platform connected to the Democratic Party.
House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer is taking aim at two new accountability targets, revealing that he will soon review more than 400 Treasury Department money laundering reports that raised alarm about the Democrat fundraising platform ActBlue and is already passing information to the next leaders of the Justice Department to punish bureaucrats who tried to impede investigations of the Biden family.
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https://justthenews.com/accountability/political-ethics/comer-seizes-two-new-targets-democrat-money-laundering-evidence-and?utm_source=daily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter
Cheating isn’t limited to specific individuals. It appears to be a pandemic affecting the entire bureaucracy. Trump has to deal with this, and this is why Musk and Ramaswamy’s mission is so important: to reduce the size of government and pull in costs.
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Capitol Police top cop caught cheating on timesheets, got promoted anyway
House investigators have opened a sweeping review into Capitol Police’s ability to monitor or discipline its ranks.
A sweeping congressional investigation into the Capitol Police’s ability to police its own ranks has turned up a stunner: One of its top executives was caught a decade ago cheating on timesheets and still got promoted. …..
The whistleblower accused both Gallagher and Pittman of failing to properly supervise the intelligence operations in the USCP. He or she argued that both of these senior officials possessed intelligence information that would have provided the necessary justifications to deploy National Guard and extra resources to prevent the storming of the Capitol Building.
In the letter, the whistleblower also accused Gallagher and Pittman of exploiting the events of January 6 in order to engineer their own career advancement at the expense of other departments and the USCP leadership.
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If one doesn’t excise the rot it spreads everywhere else.
https://justthenews.com/government/congress/holdcapitol-police-top-cop-caught-cheating-timesheets-escaped-serious-0?utm_source=daily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter
It’s people like Warren, especially the elected ones who get so much attention by legacy media, who “push” evil people to see everything from an anti-capitalist (and/or racist) perspective. Push them to rage against and destroy all with which they disagree.
Which is exactly what you are doing here.
When I heard what Warren said, I wondered if she had considered that she is in the public eye and certainly many people disagree with her positions. Does that make her fair game? She really ought to think before she opens her mouth. Good advertisement for term limits.
It’s a shame that Mangione, who obviously had such a bright future, couldn’t figure out a more constructive way of resolving his issues. Whether drugs will prove to be a factor, I’m sure that his family is horrified at seeing him take such a wrong turn. Certainly he is innocent until proven guilty, but it looks like there’s a lot of evidence against him. NYPD did a great job. Condolences to the Thompson family.
Term limits might be helpful. But also, the voters have to educate themselves on who is representing them and not be afraid to “lose power for their state” by voting out a long-term representative. we ended up with her because our CommonWealth is so blue that it is almost purple. A republican can’t be too conservative.
Certain aspects of the assassination were undeniably amateurish, but much of it seems a little too well-planned for just some surfer-dude yoga-loving social media narcissist, no matter how wealthy. Somehow the cowardly poseur knew exactly when and where to go to ambush his target and crossed multiple state lines to do it. Where did he come by this knowledge?
As far as the absurd Elizabeth Warren, she is simply a stupid person whose greatest strength is knowing how to lie on a job application to get a job. She remains in her position because an obedient useful idiot in the Senate is too good to lose. Expectations of decency or common-sense accidently emanating from her brain are unrealistic.
I’m torn on this one. We call for criminal prosecution of murder/genocide, even internationally, when a so-called despot murders its people, same for domestic mass murders . Now when a corporation, a health insurance, Inc. denies or refuses coverage and someone his harmed or killed by that decision, its considered, well, healthcare. Then sue the dammed Inc..Who has the means to sue an Inc? One can argue that poor people are victims of greedy corps. Mostly our government does nothing to protect us from greedy corps.
Always believed in Karma, goodwill, fairness towards people. But in this case the man got what was coming to him. You reap what you sow
Anon: Your feelings are understandable but wrong. Murder is not a proper response to the injuries you suggest and describe. Private health insurance, as practiced in this country, is a model of help and efficiency. The plans are required by law to publish detailed, informative brochures and booklets to advise policyholders on what they are entitled to have reimbursed. When there is a dispute, the matters are reviewed and often settled in the policyholder’s favor. Let’s compare the private sector with the public sector; some would like to see the healthcare industry take over from cradle to grave. Last year alone, HHS reported losing $100 billion in fraudulent and corrupt payments. Also, last year, the U.S. Postal Service reported losing $6.5 billion while its private sector cousin, FedEx, reported a profit of $4.3 billion. You can easily verify these figures. I’m not making them up. And despite increases in ridership and equipment, Amtrak continues to report about one billion dollars a year in operating losses that it now claims is a “perpetual” loss. The simple fact is that the government cannot compete with the private sector in health insurance, travel, courier service – or anything else. The founders planned for government inefficiency to give the private sector an edge. Other nations that have not figured this out are stuck in weak economies and frustrated citizens seeking the impossible from the incapable.
If you push people too far … You call it murder, but was it? Seems one reaps what they sow.
But to belive that healthcare in this country is what all countries should aspire to, then I say, you are wrong, I lived in the BRD, experienced it first hand – everything was covered and nowadays that still holds true.
Those broschures stipulate coverage. All well and good… how would you justify having care denied for a loved one who by not fault of their own, is refused because their policy states its not covered? Just buy a supplemental policy that covers the defect and then be denied additional coverage because of an existing sickness? How much it that persons life worth?
Fact is, corprations take advantage of the masses with the help of the federal governmant.
“Those broschures stipulate coverage. All well and good… how would you justify having care denied for a loved one who by not fault of their own, is refused because their policy states its not covered?”
Imagine that!!!! An insurance policy – coverage whether for health, auto, home – specifies what is not covered. And then a loved one wants their loss due to one of the things not covered paid for anyways. And the only excuse the insurer has is they are denied because their policy already told them what they want coverage for is not covered!!!!!
How outrageous is that! What was that person’s motorcycle, ATV, house, boat, crops, life worth to these evil corporate monsters who have exclusions within the insurance policies we buy from them!
Instead of that back operation, Unitedhealthcare forces a wheelchair and a lifetime supply of pain killers on the policy holder. Fair? What about quality of life? If that operation could get that person back into a life, continue working etc. Instead of being a ward of the so called healthcare system. Na, save the 100k, distrubute that among the shareholders and execs. But that human, now forcibly wheeelchair bound could have contributed a lot more in $’s and whatnot to society. Na, better the emplpoyees profit off someone malady that save a human life.
Moral of the story: If pushed, distraught, because of loss of wife, child, parent that could have been helped, I just might take take that step. It depends.
The health insurance industry was created in response to the failed government policy of wage and price controls in WWII.
The history is that when the US went to war in WWII, it created domestic labor shortages. To compete for workers companies had to increase wages sharply. That caused an inflationary spiral. The government responded to inflationary pressures by enacting wage and price controls..
Those government imposed wage controls prevented unions from negotiating higher wages for their members. So they demanded non-wage concessions. One of the perks they negotiated was for health insurance.
Providing health insurance to employees was very popular. Not only did companies agree to provide it to their union workers, but now white collar workers and even non-union employees expected it as part of their compensation package.
Within a few years almost all employers or at least the biggest and best who were competing for the best talent – had to provide health insurance to competitive for workers.
So the whole “health insurance” mess that exists today is the direct result of the government instituting wage and price controls during WWII. And organized labor finding a clever way to extract value to appeal to the greed of their members.
Anonymous 10:12 AM Well said and a good summary of history of health insurance
Communists of the world unite! “But in this case the man got what was coming to him. You reap what you sow. Now when a corporation, a health insurance, Inc. denies or refuses coverage and someone his harmed or killed by that decision, its considered, well, healthcare.”
Yes, if it’s capitalism, your healthcare plan must cover EVERYTHING you demand of it. Breast augmentation to make you the hottest thing on Tinder. Elective birth control abortions about once a year for those Tinder dates gone wrong.
And with an army of slip and fall ambulance chasing tort lawyers eagerly offering you their services if your tummy tuck doesn’t leave you looking as svelte as you hoped, those healthcare doctors better be practicing lots of pro-active defensive extra testing, procedures, etc to have a defense that predicts all directions those slip and fall lawyers of yours might come at them from.
Remember when this country thought it was a good thing to kill commies? Good times, huh?
Sachem Warren is the ultimate progressive. Rile up people claiming they have a “right” to everything while ignoring basic things like scarcity. Instituting regulations that make goods and services more scarce. Finally demanding socialism to solve the scarcity problem.
Let’s not forget, this white woman used affirmative action to get her job at Harvard. That was a slot for a minority, but progressives abuse the system they created.
The ends always justify the means for progressives, they are dumb and pathetic.
It’s time to give the left a little breathing room. Their worlds were destroyed beyond repair last month, and they are just coming to grips with the fact that things will not be as they hoped and planned. Luigi Mangone epitomized the dreams of the left to destroy private health insurance and give the government a monopoly to run as well and as efficiently as the post office and Amtrak. They tried to convince voters of their sincerity by floating a false, DNC-paid story about Trump and Russia and even got the FBI and CIA to cooperate in publicizing it. When crackhead Hunter forgot his laptop in the repair shop and evidence of wrongdoing was found on it that incriminated not only Hunter, but his dad, Joe Biden, and his uncle, Jim Biden, the CIA conjured up 51 intelligence experts to support the theory that the laptop was Russian disinformation. Yeah, right.
Several state and federal indictments against Trump either fell apart or were revealed to be politically motivated and run from the White House. Even an assassin’s bullet couldn’t stop the left’s nemesis. He just kept coming, and the public loved watching the show put on by the left. For the left, it began as a comedy and ended as a tragedy. For the rest of us, it was an apparent reinforcement of the wisdom of the founders who gave power to “we, the people.” Remember the old saying that first, they laugh at you, then they ridicule you, then attack you, and then you win. Poor Warren, a career premised on forged ancestry, is ending in a vile and embarrassing way. The Trump “revolution” will re-ignite the spark of liberty that started this great nation in Massachusetts, and she will soon be tossed out. The founders’ spirits will rise to move Warren’s successor and others to see the light before they feel the heat.
JJC,
Great comment.
@jjc For the left, it began as a comedy and ended as a tragedy.
Quite possibly the best sentence that will be posted anywhere on the Internet today.
Stolen.
jjc-Superb
We know that he is a recent (defective) product of an Ivy League education. He used the term “lived experience” during his rant, a buzz word.
I suspect that in the near future, we will discover that he is a product of the radical university culture,
This is not a far stretch when considering the so called student “protesters” who side with terrorism.
We will discover that he was radicalized as he views the leader of United as the oppressor “the man” and the patients as the oppressed. Classic Marxism.
Elizabeth, another Radical Lib Dem, like Bernie Sanders, focuses on social causes, a women of the people but she and her husband are very wealthy, just like Pelosi/Canton’s etc. They talk a good game and pretend then they return to their Estates. She has a history of pretending to be of the people such as pretending she is of American Indian heritage, due to her high cheek bones, 1% or when she announced she was running for President, she grabbed a beer out of the frig while her husband turned his nose down on a beer. She is a a $3 dollar bill. A Lib during the day and a Elite at night. Simply a ambulance chasing lawyer.
Canton’s should read Clinton’s sorry auto correct did it again
The rapid jump to the conclusion that this Murderer (alleged) committed this crime because of Economic injustices by Insurers is completely unsupported by the current evidence. He stalked his victim and targeted him. His rankings (written and vocal to this point) have indicated a radicalization. He “was” a serial killer in the making. The same BS “he killed him because of back pain” stories are also a fabrication of the MSM. His court filings will tell a story soon enough. So all the DNC’s glorification of this killer will end.
“The same BS “he killed him because of back pain” stories”
True enough. Frankly, the target if that were true would presumably be those directly responsible for his treatment and outcome. It would also appear (unless I missed some vital info on this story) that Mangione would probably not have been 100% reliant on medical insurance coverage, since it is pretty clear that his family had access to beaucoup bucks. I fell into some of the initial motive speculation myself on zero actual evidence; I’m not going to repeat that mistake.
The killing of Thompson is misplaced rage, the true architects of terrible healthcare in the US are pelosi and obama.
Moreover, these idiot leftists need to understand that human rights end where the labor of others is required. How they figure the opposite is shear madness. Mad dogs should be put down, for everyone’s sake.
“The killing of Thompson is misplaced rage, the true architects of terrible healthcare in the US are pelosi and obama.”
Meh. You are assuming motive, but even if your assumption is correct, I don’t entirely accept your conclusion. Corporatism is an amalgam of government and business that distorts market outcomes. As much as I despise health care meddling by Obama and other politicians (he was worst, but not the first), I don’t think that those who took advantage of that to make a huge financial killing are themselves blameless. It is government interference in a free market that mitigates toward amoral or immoral nongovernmental players seeking and gaining fortunes, but it does not absolve those players of blame for their absence of morality.
Thompson did nothing anyone else in his position wouldn’t do, he is not accused of anything unethical or illegal. He is simply a cog. Had he done his job for $1, Mangione’s health outcome would not have changed.
These crazed people have the expectation that their health care is a basic human right paid for by your sweat, based on obama’s lies. It was obama telling the country everyone would have great and affordable healthcare – that’s what the people expected (I’m still waiting for my $1200, what happened to that?). That system was never built and the people who were promised the most, the working poor, got screwed the most.
I do agree with your allusion to pre-obama harming of the health care system, goes back to the 60s, from what I am told.
Healtcare IS a basic human right. You think it’s a privilege only for those who can afford it?
“Healtcare IS a basic human right.”
And if healthcare should become unavailable to you because your insistence that it is a basic human right and must be supplied to you whether you can afford to pay or not ultimately results in a drastic reduction in the number of qualified individuals who are willing to practice medicine for the available compensation, what do you plan to do for medical help then? Your need is not a claim on anyone else’s ability.
Politicans next? Um …