After the election, liberal pundits and media have attempted to rally the public in a shift from X to Bluesky, a smaller site that is viewed as a safe space for the left. I have been critical of the move as a retreat deeper into the liberal echo chamber after an election that showed how out-of-touch many of these writers were with the majority of voters. They would be better served engaging with a broader swath of public opinion. Today, one of the top Bluesky officials embraced Canadian-style speech controls and rejected more robust views of free speech as the model for the site.Bluesky has long been criticized as a site built on the concept of “safe spaces” in higher education for those triggered by opposing views. Many of those leaving Twitter long for the “good ole days” of when all social media platforms engaged in extensive censorship to exclude or marginalize opposing voices.This week, Aaron Rodericks, the head of trust and safety at Bluesky, confirmed the worst fears of the site. Bluesky has been hammered with complaints from conservatives and libertarians that they have been subject to not only death threats on the site but also blocked from posting.Some have demanded even more aggressive measures to block or suppress conservative or libertarian views deemed threatening or demeaning. Liberal pundits have heralded the site as allowing them to “breathe again” without hearing the type of opposing views allowed on X.
Rodericks espoused the type of anti-free speech rationalizations that are addressed in my recent book, The Indispensable Right: Free Speech in an Age of Rage.” He insisted that there are alternative views of free speech than the type of “absolutism” supported by figures like myself.
Rodericks juxtaposed what he called “free speech absolutism” against the more enlightened Canadian model, adding, “I think it just comes down to philosophies of free speech.”
He explained:
“Being Canadian shapes a lot of my perspective. There’s enough of the American perspective in the world on a day-to-day basis. For example, in the Canadian constitution… you have rights and freedoms, but they’re not unequivocal.”
It was a chilling reference for many in the free speech community since free speech is in a free fall in Canada. As we have previously discussed, there has been a steady criminalization of speech, including even jokes and religious speech, in Canada. The country has eviscerated the right to free speech and association.
Yet, that is apparently the model for Bluesky. Rodericks repeats the doublespeak of the anti-free speech movement in claiming that he just wants to create a space where all are welcomed but excluding those who are not welcomed:
“I’m glad that [critics] consider it a safe space and ideally it can be a safe space for them as well. The whole point of Bluesky is for it to be safe and welcoming to all users. I think the issue is some people are defining their identity by opposition to others and how well they can harass others and deny their existence. Bluesky may not be the right place for them.”
Not surprisingly, Rodericks used to work at trust and safety for Twitter before he was fired by Elon Musk. He has also sued Musk over a tweet. At issue is Musk’s response to the criticism of his firing Rodericks’s team by noting, “Oh you mean the ‘Election Integrity’ Team that was undermining election integrity? Yeah, they’re gone.”
That would seem clearly protected opinion under the First Amendment, but, of course, for the former censors of Twitter, it should not be allowed.
We have previously discussed the censorship standards at Twitter. For example, former Twitter executive Anika Collier Navaroli testified on what she repeatedly called the “nuanced” standard used by her and her staff on censorship. Toward the end of the hearing, she was asked about that standard by Rep. Melanie Ann Stansbury (D., NM). Her answer captured precisely why Twitter’s censorship system proved a nightmare for free expression.
Navaroli then testified how she felt that there should have been much more censorship and how she fought with the company to remove more material that she and her staff considered “dog whistles” and “coded” messaging. She said that they balanced free speech against safety and explained that they sought a different approach:
“Instead of asking just free speech versus safety to say free speech for whom and public safety for whom. So whose free expression are we protecting at the expense of whose safety and whose safety are we willing to allow to go the winds so that people can speak freely.”
Rep. Stansbury responded by saying “Exactly.”
The statement was reminiscent of that of former CEO Parag Agrawal. After taking over as CEO, Agrawal pledged to regulate content as “reflective of things that we believe lead to a healthier public conversation.” Agrawal said the company would “focus less on thinking about free speech” because “speech is easy on the internet. Most people can speak. Where our role is particularly emphasized is who can be heard.”
The same standard seems to be at play at Bluesky as controversial figures like Rodericks decide which views are deemed harassing or amount to a denial of the existence of others. They will be shown, Canadian style, why “Bluesky may not be the right place for them.”
Jonathan Turley is the Shapiro Professor of Public Interest Law at George Washington University. He is the author of “The Indispensable Right: Free Speech in an Age of Rage.”
weird how some people enjoy being lied to
democrats are fascists… it can’t be denied!
Interesting that the people who are fleeing to Bluesky are still coming here to make comments similar to what conservatives wouldn’t be able to make on Bluesky. I think it’s good that progressives have their own “safe space” where they can be isolated from the majority of the country (as the election showed) and can continue in denial of reality so conservatives can continue winning elections.
Bluesky should be looked at as a leprosy colony.
Turley is ridiculing civility as “safe spaces,” which is quite amusing since he advocates for civility in the context of free speech. He has already expressed his disappointment regarding the toxic comments and personal attacks that occur on this blog. Naturally, it’s all part of free speech, but Turley critiques the prevalent “age of rage” language that is loved by conservatives and libertarians. They often gripe about leftists and the woke and insulting those who attempt to engage in meaningful conversation. Turley refers to moderation as “censorship,” yet his blog practices moderation, such as deleting openly racist comments. Why? Because it’s offensive? Is that an invasion of the ‘safe space he created for his readers? What about the use of foul language? Why should it be censored here? Is it a safe space from foul and offensive language? After all, it is also a part of free speech. However, Turley seeks civility, which is what Bluesky is enforcing. It’s odd that Turley is mocking a platform that upholds a standard he actually prefers.
Ignorance.
@George: Turley is ridiculing civility as “safe spaces,”
George, you have a serious, terminal problem. You are ridiculed here for the Democrat performative political theater you drop here multiple times each day in your sophomoric deuces for your fellow Marxist Useful Idiots..
Being mocked, laughed at, and jeered shouldn’t be confused by you with having finally found credibility here.
George, what self-gratification do you achieve by preferring to be an abject failure here, when you would be a wild success story over at the Democrat Bluesky Borg?
Old Airborne Dog
Bluesky Has a Death Threat Problem
https://www.thefp.com/p/jesse-singal-bluesky-has-a-death-threat-problem
Seems Bluesky is not a very nice or safe place. Sorry if you cannot read the entire article as the rest of the article is behind a paywall.
Once again NotReallyaFarmer, the “former” Marine, has graced us with his presence today.
He is here all day every day making his inane comments.
Who is taking care of the livestock today????
Tell us about your livestock.
Are they in the room with you now??
Get a paid subscription to The Free Press, see the screen shots taken by the author, Jesse Singal and read for yourself that Bluesky seems to have a moderation problem. How inane is that? And I bring a lot more to the good professor’s blog then you childish comments.
MAGA, winning!!!
NotReallyaFarmer
You still haven’t told us who is taking care the livestock while you spend all you time here today and every day.
At this time of year don’t you have to put out feed for them.
As a “former” Marine you must have a strong sense of duty to make sure your obligations are fulfilled.
Maybe your imaginary “former” Marine buddies are taking care of your imaginary livestock on your imaginary farm.
Ach du lieber Gott!!! What a night! There I was, working at The Adolph Hitler Immortality Lab, where we discovered that turtles could be mutated into human clone bodies for Hitler! Hitler showed up to select the best turtle for the project, and all the little turtles were auditioning for him! Anyway, I digress.
Well, of course, our colleagues on the Left will migrate to a safe space. They have recently experienced multiple instances of disconfirmation, with the victory by Trump, the blatant lying about the pardon by Biden, and the revelation that “No, the Poor Widdle Trans Kids won’t self-delete if we don’t butcher their bodies after all, Joe and Mika going to Mar-A-Lago, Mayor Adams siding with Trump on the illegal aliens, more Blacks voting for Trump, more Hispanics voting for Trump, more Womyn voting for Trump, more young people voting for Trump – I mean, these are some pretty heavy body blows to their psyches!
Thus, the noise, the disharmonic din, the cognitive dissonance is on a long-term crescendo! They have to get away from it, or they might have to admit that they are stupid, and wrong. They would have to let it all go. And, they just can.not.do.it.
The farther along this cult of progressivism endures, the closer it comes to all the other fanatic religious cults throughout history. While this sad crew may, for the most part, claim atheism as their creed (there are many hapless pseudo-christians/jews in their midst who have strayed too far from their original doctrines) they behave very much as cultists. They have an unwavering belief in their creed, they will not tolerate apostasy, they will destroy all that stands in their way of fulfilling whatever promise is at the end of their particular “rainbow” and they only seek the company of their own as they do not have a rational system for debating their stance – only hateful denying of “the other”. Bluesky is now their madrasa where they can commune with the other cultists.
It’s very simple. Avoid Bluesky. It’s obviously just former Twitter radical’s little playground.
The Eagles’ Hotel California would be the perfect theme song for such a “safe space” as Bluesky.
If someone has a broken mind they should always have a calming place to bask in their fantasy and temporarily retreat from reality before it slaps them in their face.
Issue is, these people spend so long in their private ‘safe spaces’ that they now see it as their civic duty to push their version of ‘safe’ on everyone else, and they have no limits on how much they will lie, cheat, and steal to make it happen.
– NightScroller
I prefer the left choose to be isolated! If we want we can join Bluesky and stalk but not comment- it”s always good to know the opposing opinions! And those that choose to leave X are too fragile to grasp some opinions are different, or even that they are just opinions and not the law.
Sort of like those afraid to watch anything not Fox News or conservative radio. Fear on both sides!
Conservatives are inundated with liberal messaging all day long. For decades the major purveyors of information – MSM, the education establishment, Hollywood and the rest of the entertainment industry, government agencies, and higher education – have been captured by the Left. There’s no way we can avoid it. But that does create a market for an alternative voice, one that does not strike us as insane or in denial of reality. Hence the success of the few conservative outlets like talk radio, Fox news, or the handful of conservative newspapers such as the NY Post or Washington Times. These provide balance but that does not mean we’re in an echo chamber given that at least half of everything we consume is inevitably coming from the other side. Parenthetically this situation also gives us an advantage because unlike liberals who do have the option of shielding themselves from any contrary thought, we’ve had years of experience hearing the opposing point of view and reasoning through why it is wrong.
OldManFromKS,
You have a point there. As I have stated in the past, NPR was a daily staple in our house hold from first light till dinner time. You could dismiss the obvious leftist bias and still get the news. Then 2016 happened and they went all in, advocacy journalism to the point it was so nauseating I quit listening. Matt Taibbi did a great article about how far NPR had fallen and everything was about race or gender. If this was a private company I would not care. But they get some funding from our tax dollars. The upside is they are losing listeners like the rest of MSM is losing viewers/readers. I do wonder what the future news media landscape will look like.
Not long ago I was discussing media with a friend. I equated legacy media to a paint store that sold only black, white, and a few shades of grey paint. Their customers were loyal – when they needed new paint, legacy supplied them with what they were used to seeing.
Then a new paint store opened next door called ‘conservative’. This new store also supported paint in black, white and all shades of grey paint but… they also stocked every other color in the spectrum, as well. The new paint store had immediate success with new customers and their return business. Many legacy paint store customers sampled the new business and switched. Color paint? Who’d a-thunk it! Business BOOMED for the new entry into the paint market. As word spread, this new store with every color availble to anyone who wanted to buy it, well, the legacy paint store started to lose more and more business. But rather than add color paint to their inventory to attract some of the customers they lost, the legacy store stopped selling many shades of grey. The continued loss of even more legacy customers to the new paint store – which has grown exponentially into locations everywhere – only befuddles the legacy stores owners and employees.
My friend writes for a publication that believes the Department of Education is better than sliced bread and canned beer. So you can probably see where that conversation went.
@oldmanfromkansas: Hence the success of the few conservative outlets like talk radio, Fox news, or the handful of conservative newspapers such as the NY Post or Washington Times.
A fairly accurate post from your experiences I think. But given my exposure to Fox here in Montana via the radio news clips provided by the private radio station here, KJJR, that provides something similar to public broadcasting, you would have a hard time convincing anyone that Fox is supposedly the Trump/conservative news media the Woke Democrat trolls here claim were instrumental to Trump beating the Border Czar DEI Hire.
Whoever selects the wording to for news clips about Trump, Illegal Aliens, nominees like Pete Hegseth, etc is definitely not a Trump/conservative supporter. They would have to fight to prove they were that CNN “fair and balanced” thing given the wording they choose.
Simple things like “Donald Trump admitted that…”, when if it were Biden they were talking about, that would instead be “President Biden confirmed that…” Just a few changes of choice of words here and there is all it takes.
I moved well beyond choosing Fox or any of the other 15 second attenton span news media even before Trump and I suspect many others have as well. Long form journalism is still available in America in various forms including what is called The New Media, and that is a far better choice if you want actual information instead of a confirming environment of similar reproving voices and chorus of agreement without critical inspection.
Where we choose to get our news and the variety we make in those choices does a lot to make us who we are.
Old Airborne Dog
Somehow someone thought that I was a democrat/progressive and I started getting emails continually since 2023 that were “facts” sent to me to convince me how evil Trump and his MAGA people were. I never disabused them of this thought but continued to read the lies that they posted daily trying to elicit donations for their progressive movement. It was both hilarious and damnable but do not think that those on the right of the political spectrum do not know the depth of pernicious, erroneous, and false narrative that spews from the left. If you are not up on the actions of your enemy, you cede the advantage to them. Just how dumb do you think the right is? As dumb as the cult of the progressive toddler?
Turley refers to moderation as “censorship” because Bluesky has more stringent moderation policies compared to X. He overlooks the fact that Bluesky is a private company, which has the right to operate as it sees fit. Additionally, Turley fails to mention that X is losing subscribers while Bluesky is gaining them. This suggests that more people prefer to express their opinions and views in an environment free from harassment and trolls who focus on personal attacks, insults, and mindless trolling—issues that are becoming increasingly common on X.
Apparently, Turley missed the point in a statement he cited,
…” I think the issue is some people are defining their identity by opposition to others and how well they can harass others and deny their existence. Bluesky may not be the right place for them.”
Moderation on Bluesky is stricter for those trying to disrupt conversations just to attack liberals. Turley falsely claims this is targeted censorship against conservatives and libertarians, but that’s not true.
Anyone joining Bluesky, including conservatives, must follow the rules they agreed to. Complaining about “censorship due to their political views” is just a convenient and dishonest excuse for their misconduct, which results in punishment or removal. Bluesky has the right to manage its platform as it sees fit, and it offers a more appealing alternative to X. Advertisers are steering clear of X because it has become associated with bigotry and conspiracy theories.
Bluesky is gaining popularity among former X users and it’s set to surpass X soon. Threads and Mastodon also have gained subscribers while X keeps losing more. That’s not a good sign for X. Bluesky ‘tweets’ are mentioned more and more in media and than X.
Turley’s posts on X are largely overlooked due to the platform’s increasingly toxic environment. He ridicules the idea of a “safe space” for liberals, despite often criticizing the bad conduct and trolling on his own blog. Civility is a core principle for him regarding free speech, yet it’s rarely practiced on X. Conversely, Bluesky enforces civility, but he mocks it instead. It seems he prefers posting on X to avoid seeming like he’s abandoning free speech, even though the platform is filled with toxic behavior, rather than engaging in meaningful discussions on Bluesky where civility prevails.
Can you please give me an example of what you would consider a toxic environment? Let’s take, this as a starting point –
Gregor, a stupid liberal, says that Poor Little Trans Kid are being denied the right to affirm their gender –
What would YOU consider to be some “toxic replies” to Gregor?
Thx!
Turley refers to moderation as “censorship” because Bluesky has more stringent moderation policies compared to X. He overlooks the fact that Bluesky…
@George: When it comes to overlooking facts… why do you come here every day to troll, attack and insult your host with lies and your meandering Bull Shyte narratives? Oblivious to the community around you here?
You would find a far more welcoming venue to host your seething hatred of Trump and Republicans and conservatives in general over at Bluesky.
You get exactly zero support here; at best most just roll their eyes at seeing your name and then scrolling past.
Others mock and jeer at your blatant ignorance while attempting to defend and justify the Democrats and their policies like Woke – and of course their Bluesky.
There is something broke inside that childish brain of yours that you tag team with Dennis McIntyre and the execrable Gigi in coming here each day with insults and attacks on your host to satisfy some emotional need you have.
Go heal yourself over at Bluesky George! Do not worry that somebody here will miss the daily deuces you drop here of Democrat Bull Schiff.
Old Airborne Dog
@George: When it comes to overlooking facts… why do you come here every day to troll, attack and insult your host with lies and your meandering Bull Shyte narratives? Oblivious to the community around you here?
Old Airborne Dog
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Lil Slavering Bow Wow, “Why do you come here every day to troll, attack and insult your host [and his public] with lies and your meandering Bull Shyte narratives?”
You should seek help; you are approaching a full psychotic break?
Lil Slavering Bow Wow, You should seek help; you are approaching a full psychotic break?
Well, that’s an interesting comment from you, mewling little Airsoft Gravy Seal Team Six Sniper from the Chairborne Commando.
It would appear that psychiatric help provided you after you got one of those “Hunter Biden Resignation Pardons” from the military after you were caught molesting the the little boys among the base brats hasn’t done much to return you to being a trustworthy, contributing citizen.
Leading once again to the question: Do you post every day’s attack as a cowardly Anonymous with no username to track because you’re fearful your probation officer will find you are violating that probation by using the internet?
Inquiring parents want to know, pudgy little Chairborne Gun Bunny.
Turley is obviously clear that Bluesky is privately owned. Turley is simply pointing out that Bluesky attracts fragile leftist who have issues with insecurity. So fragile that they need an environment where people will reinforce their beliefs. I believe Turley describes it as an Echo Chamber. In the half an hour I spent on the Bluesky site I have to agree with Turley’s assessment.
It is interesting that you took the time to visit Turley’s site to complain about the free speech, but took advantage of it to try and attack the free speech this site offers. This is typical Hypocrisy from the very people who don’t want others to enjoy the freedoms our creator gave us.
Thanks for your invaluable example of what Turley was speaking to in this blog.
So, in other words, you approve of censorship when it works in your favor? You seem to miss the point, but that’s not surprising.
@George
X user base has increased by 47% since 2022. How is it losing members? Or are you taking a super short timeframe with no statistical value?
Bluesky – 6.4 million users.
X – 540+ million users.
You never say anything of value, but wow. Today you may have really taken the cake!
Wrong, Bluesky has 25 million users. X 560 million, but that’s 6% less and dropping.
By the way X user base has not increased 47%
Turley refers to moderation as “censorship” because Bluesky has more stringent moderation policies compared to X.
What a magnificent display of self-aggrandization coupled with a rejection of reality!
@George: why do you think engaging in your performative Democrat political theater by Speaking Your Democrat Truths in your daily trolling of Professor Turley with your lies and insults gives you credibility?
You serve no other function than being the equivalent of a used condom serving as a wind sock to indict the magnitude and direction of the shyte storm of Democrat Bull Schiff.
Why do you prefer to serve here as the equivalent of one of Gigi’s discarded condoms, rather then being celebrated and admired over at Bluesky?
Old Airborne Dog
George
As is typical of left wing nuts
You want to play we word games
What you miss is that manipulating words does not change reality
If you wish to live in an artificial reality bubble
Have fun
But you do not get to compel the rest of us to live in there with you
I have zero concern or interest in Bluesky
I doubt it will survive
But I am fine if it does
What is dangerous is when force can be used to disconnect people from reality
And that is exactly what was done in the past decade
Again
Live in your bubble
You are not entitled to force the rest of us to live in your bubble You are
George
Bluesky can do as it pleases
Turley and the rest of us are criticizing and laughing because of how badly Bluesky is managing with it’s own standards
Also at how transparent Bluesky is in pretending that its preferences are actual principles
No it is not morally acceptable to have standards different based on who rather than actual conduct
Luigi is a murderer he is not a hero
That would be equally true if it was some right wing nuts You want killing Biden or Harris
But it is not
Few on the right resort to unjustified violence
Even the idiotic claims regarding j6 are violence against the state
Not against private individuals
Bluesky in practice is rules for thee but not for me
That is morally repugnant
Hypocritical
And laughable
But as you note Bluesky is private
Like X it can do as it wishes
It is when you go from waxing lyrical about Bluesky to pushing to have government
The US UK Canada.. to make everything into Bluesky
Bluesky is freedom for left wing nuts
Bluesky everywhere is the worst form of tyranny
“Turley’s posts on X are largely overlooked . . .”
He has 852,000 followers. His recent post on the Jan 6 IG report has 796,000 views.
You are a pathological liar. Anyone who believes a word you say deserves what he gets.
They want their safe spaces, have at it. Never to hear from them again. Oh, darn. The owners want to censor views, good to know.
Bluesky is the The Truman Show of social media.
Bluesky has about 25 million users
truthsocial has about 2 million users.
Does your reasoning make truth social the sh-t show of social media?
Nope. Truth Social was a response to censorship on Twitter. Bluesky is a response to free speech on X. Therefore the reasonable comparison would be the 588 million on X to Bluesky’s 25 million.
But hey, you go right ahead and believe whatever makes you feel the safest.
@Anonymous Does your reasoning make truth social the sh-t show of social media?
Reasoning would lead you to ask yourself this question: why do angry hurt Democrat Anonymous cowards like myself come here to post our bitter Bull Schiff? Instead of hanging out in the far more welcoming and nurturing environment of the Democrat Bluesky Borg?
Because Bluesky does not allow you to cowardly post Anonymously and requires you to post with a chosen username?
Old Airborne Dog
LOL. 25 Million users, Zero diversity of thought, except the trolls laughing their asses off at the lefty morons
Your data is wrong
This has been spread before
Bluesky is about 1/4 the actual size of truth when you compare equals to equals
Both are dwarfed by twitter by several orders of magnitude
Truth is no more censorship free than Bluesky
Which is fine
Truth deliberately markets itself as family friendly
Bluesky sells itself as a safe space for left wing nuts
There is a market for both
Truth has established that it meets the wishes of its market
So far Bluesky is just something to laugh at
But if it manages to thrive
And left wing nuts really want to live in a truth free bubble
That is fine
What is not fine is trying to make the world into their bubble
How to exactly is anyone supposed to trust the numbers you claim in a world where what we are told is controlled ?
:-):-):-)
Well played, Olly!
“free speech is in a free fall in Canada” and over in England it has fallen and cant get back up. Check out the Online Safety Act of 2023
“The Online Safety Act 2023[1][2][3] (c. 50) is an act of the Parliament of the United Kingdom to regulate online speech and media. It passed on 26 October 2023 and gives the relevant Secretary of State the power, subject to parliamentary approval, to designate and suppress or record a wide range of speech and media deemed “harmful”.[4][5]”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_Safety_Act_2023
@RadioGenoa tweeted that a “British man writes on social media that he doesn’t want to see Palestine flags in his neighborhood and British police raid his house at 4 am to arrest him”
within days of the election leftists were fleeing X and headed to Bluesky. Over at Bluesky the platformed received over 3000 requests for censorship per hour. In 2023 they received a little over 300,000 such requests for the entire year. Leftists only want to hear their own voices chattering. G*d forbid that they see something that contradicts their beliefs.
Requests for moderation regarding “censorship” are essentially appeals to manage posts that violate the platform’s rules, particularly those that involve harassment. When users engage in trolling, insults, or personal attacks, it is within the platform’s rights to address these behaviors by removing such comments or revoking posting privileges. This situation is akin to an unwelcome stranger interrupting a private conversation with the intent to disrupt and insult, which would be intolerable in a face-to-face interaction.
Requests for moderation regarding “censorship” are essentially appeals to manage posts that violate the platform’s rules
In George’s fascist Marxist world, all the censorship demands from Democrat politicians to censor dissenting voices and news while Twitter and Facebook were the propaganda arms of George’s Democrat army were just responses to clear violations of those platforms’ rules.
George claims there were no political objectives or animus to be found anywhere in the censoring of the Biden bribery laptop on those platforms! Other than the fact the owners of both Facebook and Twitter confessed to doing exactly that.
And if you hurt one of George’s fellow Democrat fascists’ feelings with an opposing opinion or rebuttal of them Speaking Their Truths? Clearly, as George points out, you were engaging in trolling, insults or personal attacks.
George would of course deny that his daily visits here to troll, insult, and attack his host Professor Turley is nothing other than self-gratification by way of trolling, insults, and personal attacks.
George, why aren’t you posting instead in the collegial fraternity of the Democrat Bluesky Borg instead of here? Where your sophomoric Bull Schiff would reach a welcoming and equally sophomoric audience?
Why here instead, other than for a childish emotional craving to find self-gratification through your daily trolling and insulting your host Professor Turley?
Old Airborne Dog
It is within a platforms rights
It is not within the legitimate powers of government to have the slightest involvement
You can not have self government if a select few decide what you can know
Bluesky can do as it pleases
And we can laugh at them
In England or Canada you can not laugh when the censors embarrass themselves
You can not even know
Atleast not out loud
Over 1 million persons worldwide were covertly blacklisted, harmed, destroyed and likely suffered premature death over 20 years ago. It had a near 99% failure rate based on terrorism-convictions. No due process whatsoever.
This is called an “Orwellian Memory Hole” – history simply erased from the history books.
It still exists today. Both parties ignore that truth!
I love headlines….
“Trump sues Iowa pollster, newspaper for ‘interference’ in US election”
https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20241218-trump-sues-iowa-pollster-newspaper-for-interference-in-us-election
What an ASS.
and why shouldn’t he sue? the poll was highly inaccurate and prejudicial. it showed Harris leading just a few days before the election when in fact Trump had a large lead in Iowa polls. This was an effort to influence the election
Just because. . . .
Funny how you justify a blatant disregard for the constitution when it fits your biases, but if Biden or Obama says/does something you don’t like it is the end of the earth.
Give me a break, this will be thrown out of court faster than than trumps attempt to get his sexual abuse settlement.
Give me a break, this will be thrown out of court faster than than trumps attempt to get his sexual abuse settlement.
Hey! That’s EXACTLY what George Stephenopoulos said after he was sued for lying about Trump?
And the EXACT SAME THING CNN said when their talking heads defamed that veteran who was going into Afghanistan to rescue the Americans and our allies Biden and Harris deserted over there.
While you’re showing your eager commie belief that lawsuit against Trump will survive once it leaves the nurturing environment of the New York justice system, do you think the lawsuits against Stephenopoulos and the current one against CNN that DIDN’T get thrown out as they hoped are going to prevail?
Funny how commie Democrats throw that word ‘constitution’ around as though they actually respect anything within it.
Trump has stayed with the constitution as scotus has defined post FDR
Biden and Obama have not
I think scotus should eliminate defamation as a tort
But so long as it remains trumps defamation claims are far better than those against him
The big deal on the IA case will be was it simple error or something more nefarious
The facts are shocking but enough to get to discovery
Which is why stephanopolis settled
The EJC case ixx as not even going to survive in NYS
A claim about events s 25 years ago with no date and no specific allegation even to a friend until more than a decade later
With a nuts and credulous plantif is not good ing to survive
All the cases against trump are garbage waiting for an unbiased court to toss them
Expect to have cases tossed slowly over time
re: PeterK
Anyone can file frivolous lawsuits. Trump has filed hundreds of lawsuits.
Polling is a calculated guess or estimation. If polling were 100% accurate, why have elections?
Not nearly as many as the spurious lawsuits filed against Trump
Polling is not a guess
It is a scientific prediction based on sampling and statistics
It has a well defined error bar absent fraud
The lawsuit is much more complicated
If this was just simple error trump’s lawsuit will die
But if this was actually an organized conspiracy then it maybe a tort it maybe illegal it may even be a crime
Regardless like the stephanolpolis lawsuit
I expect that what trump is after is exposing malfeasance
The money in the stephanopolis lawsuit is chump change
But the press as a whole is on notice that if they again lie egregiously they will be in trouble
Personally scotus needs the just end defamation as a tort
It is abused more than beneficial
But trump has a huge legal advantage now
Malice will not be hard to prove
Just think of BlueSky being a black hole. All liberal and progressive thought will head for the hallowed safety of BlueSky and then once they hit the event horizon they may have a transient feeling of “Oh No, I think I have just passed the point of no return and will never be able to get out”. Which would be a good thing for society. Is progressive thought a reality if there is no one else out there listening to it.
Or they may find themselves in the lowest circle of Dante’s Inferno with Satan ready to eat them, snuffing out all their thought for Eternity.
I would vote for either scenario.
Leftist propaganda and dogma can never withstand free speech.
Bluesky must have a very interesting conversation. You can only say what everyone else says. LOL
Now that Twitter/X stands in contrast to these others, the absurdity of their clownish behavior is very readily apparent. The levels of delusion necessary to even exist in the echo chamber or ‘safe space’ are quite stunning, these are children plugging their ears, and it is plain to see. Fine. We’ll move on without them. I predict Blue Sky will cease being a thing, eventually. Hopefully other Western countries find their courage and join us in sanity.