We have previously discussed cases (here, here, here, here, and here) of professors being fired or suspended for using offensive terms such as the n-word in discussions or tests. I have generally argued that such usage is protected on free speech and academic freedom grounds. Now, a federal judge has ruled against Ohio State University (OSU) in an important case involving former OSU Professor Mark Sullivan, who used the n-word in a class on dealing with offensive terms. Ironically, the class was called “Crucial Conversations,” but OSU was not particularly interested in what Professor Sullivan had to say.
Sullivan taught the “Crucial Conversations” course to help train students how to communicate productively about difficult topics. Here is how the court described the background facts:
“Crucial Conversations” used a practical, action-based pedagogy. Students begin by critiquing video vignettes of bullying and eventually escalate to simulating difficult conversations themselves in one-on-one and group exercises. Some of these simulations involved mock conflict—complete with intentionally triggering, provocative, disrespectful, or shocking language. Sullivan warned his students in advance that the exercises would involve such language. The theory behind this pedagogy is that a classroom role play provides a low-stakes environment ideal for honing conversational skills.
One role play scenario cast Sullivan as Whitey Bulger (the late Boston based organized crime boss) and a student as a law enforcement officer trying to obtain Bulger’s cooperation. The purpose of this simulation was to teach students how to engage with offensive language (Bulger’s words as recited by Sullivan) while keeping the conversation on track to productive purposes (obtaining Bulger’s cooperation). During the actual simulation, quoting a real statement Bulger made to law enforcement, Sullivan said,
I don’t want to be placed in a prison cell with a bunch of [n-word]s. You make sure I’m in a place with my kind and I’ll talk about who was behind that job of killing [X].
Sullivan hoped for a student response such as,
“I understand you have strong feelings about the kind of cell mates you will be assigned to live with. We will want to listen more carefully to what matters to you as we also work with what is acceptable under prison rules and regulations.”
Sullivan performed this simulation all 49 times he taught the course, without incident for the first 48.
Sullivan taught “Crucial Conversations” for the 49th time in the Fall 2021 semester. After conducting the Whitey Bulger role play in September, a student in the course reported Sullivan for being racially insensitive and offensive. Defendant [Robert Lount, Chair of the Management and Human Resources Department at OSU] informed Sullivan on September 30 that the Business School’s HR Department required Lount to investigate Sullivan and his course…On the substance of the investigation, Sullivan pleads only one detail: a phone interview, during which Lount communicated that he understood Sullivan to be performing his duties responsibly. Despite this assurance, at some time unknown to Sullivan, Defendants (and other unknown individuals) deliberated and decided not to renew Sullivan’s contract….
The court explored whether Sullivan could shoulder the burden of establishing that (1) he engaged in protected speech; (2) Defendants took an adverse action against him; and (3) there is a causal connection between the protected speech and the adverse action.
As we have previously discussed, the threshold question turned on the standard under Pickering-Connick and whether Sullivan was speaking on “a matter of public concern.” If so, the court asks whether his interest in speaking on that matter is greater than OSU’s interest in “promoting the efficiency of the public services it performs.”
Judge Michael Watson (S.D. Ohio) wrote:
Classroom instruction generally implicates a matter of public concern “because the essence of a teacher’s role is to prepare students for their place in society as responsible citizens.” … Sullivan’s purpose, as alleged, was not just to trigger his students. He triggered them for a separate, ultimate purpose: teaching them to converse productively despite having been triggered. The context—the general mission of the course—renders that purpose plausible….
[I]n Hardy v. Jefferson Cmty. Coll. (6th Cir. 2001) …, the Sixth Circuit held that a professor’s use of the n-word implicated matters of “overwhelming” public concern. Hardy involved a community college that declined to renew an adjunct professor’s contract after he said the n-word (among other offensive words), prompting a student complaint. The adjunct uttered the offensive words during an in-class lecture on language and social constructivism, part of a course called “Introduction to Interpersonal Communication.” The lecture examined how language (like the n-word) can marginalize and oppress. …
The “academic context” here is materially on all fours with that in Hardy. As was true for the adjunct, Sullivan’s in-class use of the n-word was allegedly germane to an academic purpose. The lessons were not identical, of course. The adjunct’s lecture abstractly reflected on racially charged language, whereas Sullivan’s exercise pragmatically trained students how to respond to it. But, at bottom, both the Hardy lecture and the Sullivan exercise relate to race and power conflicts in society-matters of overwhelming public concern. By force of Hardy, Sullivan’s in-class utterance of the n-word likely implicates race relations-a quintessential matter of public concern.
Beyond just race in general, Sullivan’s speech, as alleged, also addresses the specific matter of whether using the n-word in class can have worthwhile pedagogical value. This matter is undeniably one of public concern. This debate entered the zeitgeist most prominently as grade schools considered banning classic books that contain the n-word.
The court noted that Sullivan was “taking a side” in the long-standing debate over the use of such language and “his whole ‘Crucial Conversations’ course was allegedly a monument to the view that hearing charged language in a classroom is pedagogically worth it.”
Judge Watson found that the balancing test of Pickering “favors Sullivan” and that his language falls squarely in “the robust tradition of academic freedom in our nation’s post-secondary schools.”
It is a very strong opinion supporting both free speech and academic freedom. It is also a compelling reason why Ohio State University needs to have its own “Crucial Conversation” on how it treats free speech.
The case is Sullivan v. Ohio State University.
Jonathan Turley is the Shapiro professor of public interest law at George Washington University and the author of “The Indispensable Right: Free Speech in an Age of Rage.”
It seem that there are some ‘franchised words’ should never be spoken aloud or written.
And may only be used by the Disenfranchised Group for their advocacy.
Holocaust, purely a Jewish franchised term,
N _ _ _ _ _ , purely a Black franchised term,
Honky/Cracker/Redneck/Hillbilly, purely a White franchised term,
Spic, purely a Latino franchised term,
Sand N _ _ _ _ _ , purely a Mid Easterners franchised term,
Dot Heads , purely a Hindu franchised term,
The list can go on & on….
It’s getting so ridiculous. That we don’t care anymore of what We think of each Other.
It’s time that ‘Advocacy’ takes a backseat to the underling ‘Problem’ at hand.
What is the real cause of the disparaging ‘Rage’.
“Holocaust, purely a Jewish franchised term,”
Another idiot.
Holocaust: A genocide against a specific people, killing about half the population. Over six million were murdered.
Not to forget:
Gypsies: up to half a million killed.
Disabled: a quarter of a million killed.
Then we get to other groups, including many different types of civilians in the millions.
You are a sick and ignorant excuse for a human being.
Uhm during WW2 the Holocaust referred to the extermination of the Jews.
But then again you have the word genocide.
Rwanda is one example.
Care to remember a few more of the Genocides? Like Armenia?
-G
What happening right now is a “Holocaust ©” – up to 1,000,000 estimated casualties during the Russian invasion of Ukraine till mid-September 2024. Add to that the Gaza totals, but still not a Holocaust © according to you.
Your the one franchising it here, So just what is the quota of dead that needs to be met in order for it to be called a Holocaust ©?
Yes, specifically it was against the Jews, but many others were picked out for extermination. We should not forget any of them. Nor should we forget the mass exterminations of many people over the centuries.
You mention two, but what about Biafra, Chinese in Indonesia, Cambodia, the Holodomor, Bosnia, Sudan, and Yazidis,
WWII
Country Total Civilian and Military Deaths
Soviet Union 24,000,000
United Kingdom 450,700
United States 418,500
Yugoslavia 1,000,000
————————————————-
Total Deaths 25,869,200
Jewish Deaths – 6,000,000
========================
Gentile Deaths 19,869,200
Six million Jewish casualties in the Shoah.
The word has been ‘Franchised’ by the people of the Hebrew faith and is used to define their victimhood. It is abundantly used in the advocacy of Jewish rights and claims. They own it, just like the Blacks own the word N _ _ _ _ _ . It’s their ‘Franchise’ and it is used for their advocacy of rights and claims. Etc. Etc. …
My original point was that we should forget about ‘coining’ these words (franchising them) and focus on the Problem(s). They create a distraction and sideshow the real work needed to be done.
e.g.: Nix the advocacy and let’s get down to working on the problems.
Which is a reflection of what Jonathan’s post addressed.
Nonetheless, the n-word is insulting to a great many people, and out of deference and decorum it should be avoided. Now you can get in trouble for mentioning it. Similarly, I don’t like being called a white supremist. It is insulting. I’ve worked hard for all I have. Now, it is used all the time, and no one gets in trouble.
You seem so conflicted, so afraid. Is it unconstitutional in the land of the free and the home of the brave to hold a personal preference? That seems a bit odd. One is free, but one cannot make one’s own choice and favor one particular entity over another. Where do you find that in the history of mankind or the Constitution of the United States? I think you’ve been duped. There may very well be quantifiable differences that may engender a preference in the minds of many.
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“Research on group differences in intelligence: A defense of free inquiry”
ABSTRACT
In a very short time, it is likely that we will identify many of the genetic variants underlying individual differences in intelligence. We should be prepared for the possibility that these variants are not distributed identically among all geographic populations, and that this explains some of the phenotypic differences in measured intelligence among groups. However, some philosophers and scientists believe that we should refrain from conducting research that might demonstrate the (partly) genetic origin of group differences in IQ. Many scholars view academic interest in this topic as inherently morally suspect or even racist. The majority of philosophers and social scientists take it for granted that all population differences in intelligence are due to environmental factors. The present paper argues that the widespread practice of ignoring or rejecting research on intelligence differences can have unintended negative consequences. Social policies predicated on environmentalist theories of group differences may fail to achieve their aims. Large swaths of academic work in both the humanities and social sciences assume the truth of environmentalism and are vulnerable to being undermined. We have failed to work through the moral implications of group differences to prepare for the possibility that they will be shown to exist.
– https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/09515089.2019.1697803#abstract
For fun, type the N Word into search, and read the wiki article on the word. Very interesting.
So thats how you waste a day huh. Numbskull.
Try it! It is a long piece, and full of info. I can not link it here because of the word press filter.
How is it spelled? Niger?
No, the word has two “g’s”. If you still can’t figger out how to spell it, do a search on “LBJ” and “we’ll have voting for Democrats.” It should pop up there. 🙂
From the finest philosopher of American jurisprudence that I can actually quote from memory, Lenny Bruce: “If you can’t say “Fu(que)” you can’t say, “Fu(que) the government.”
I really, really hope universities are on the chopping block. This has all gone waaaaaay past too far. ‘Safe spaces’ = equals toxic to the mentally healthy. Inmates running the asylum? You betcha. Stop pretending there is anything inherently remarkable or redeemable about anyone because their job happens to be at a college and in the six figures, or that a modern ‘degree’ means anything other than money was spent.
They got lawyers and fat endowments. Nothing will change. Just more liberl zombies enter into society.
Here’s a tangential spin.
We all need to lighten up. Snowflakes need to melt. I would have loved to attend one of Sullivan’s classes; BRAVO to Judge Watson! Instead, while I was still in school, this played out in a famously funny skit on Saturday Night Live (SNL):
(In the skit, Chevy Chase is a white job interviewer and RIchard Prior is the job applicant. To feel out Richard’s ability to blend in, Chevy suggests playing a little “word association” game. This is how it goes:
(Start several paragraphs down, where it begins:
“The first words are innocuous enough. Chase says ‘dog.’ Richard says ‘tree.’ Fast/slow, rain/snow, white/black, bean/pod, then:”
((I’ve tried to copy the text three times, using *s in verboten words. WP is still blocking, so you will have to PICK UP THE TRANSCRIPT FROM HERE…..)) (located several paragraphs down. Easy to find because of the columnized text reiterating the “word association.”
https://www.salon.com/2013/11/03/saturday_night_live_and_richard_pryor_the_untold_story_behind_snls_edgiest_sketch_ever/
Hope you all get a good laugh.
The n-word is boorish language, not dissimilar to profanity. Typically, the purveyors are simply ostracized. If people enjoy a constitutional freedom of speech, they must be allowed to do so. Good people should simply ignore and exclude those who insult as a moral and ethical consideration. The problem is that profanity and unpleasant behavior are becoming more acceptable every day.
1-Well, I commend the court for their lucidity and decision.
2-I commend Professor Turley for making his point. He does not need to use the n-word in his column today because we all know what it is and likely have heard it on many occasions and he is not teaching us how to deal with foul language in interpersonal relationships. So being a polite individual he is not using the VALDEMORT WORD.
3-I condemn Ohio State for this unseemly case and their actions. Being in the same area and conference as Ohio State I respect them as an Outstanding University and certainly this unseemly action would generally have been thought to be nonsense and beneath them.
4-I Condemn the student for knowing what the course was all about and having been given all the information and warnings and then turning around and complaining about the Professor doing what he said he would do. It’s like going to gym class, being warned it is a swimming course in water and one might get wet and then screaming that’s he/she got wet and it ruined their hair for the day. Frankly I think the student should have to pay the expenses of the case and give an apology to the professor up in front of the class. That would be a new role-playing scenario entitled “how to eat crow in public” and learn humility.
5-the numbers are here so George can follow each point and not get lost and get off message or off topic.
For enigmainblackcom. You complain of about white people all the time directly, indirectly and by innuendo. It actually becomes quite tedious at time. Sort of rhymes with “One Trick Pony”.
If this is the standard that OSU wants for academia, where will that leave such spewers of vitriol as Lawrence tribe should white American students start filing lawsuits. The affinity for the indoctrinated whiners to sue at the drop of a hat can turn and bite them in the behind. I find almost all of tribes speech offensive.
It’s funny that there is a word that can not even be spelled out in a conversation about free speech. And that some people are offended by the actual word but not when the actual word is referred to as the n- word which has the same meaning. Make sense?
It cannot be typed on this blog and it’s a free speech blog. Saying the N-word here is an automatic censorship. According to Turley it shouldn’t be censored at all.
Typing or saying the “n- word” is no different than the actual use of the word itself.
Free Speech? Censorship? Meh. Unless if youve disappeared by Chat GPT, you dont know censorship
Congratulations to Professor Turley or “Lord Voldemort –he who must not be named”
Who’s Afraid of Jonathan Turley? ChatGPT, for On
If you ask ChatGPT, “Who is Jonathan Turley and what role did he play in the Trump impeachment?” or simply, “What can you tell me about the attorney, Jonathan Turley?” you will get the same reply every time: “I am unable to produce a response.” No amount of rephrasing the question, begging, or cajoling will get the bot to say a single word about the man. Turley is ChatGPT’s equivalent of Lord Voldemort –he who must not be named.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2025/02/04/whos_afraid_of_jonathan_turley_chatgpt_for_one_152300.html
Interesting.
ChatGPT considers Turley to be a pedophile. Allegedly. That’s it won’t mention him by name.
Just as I suspected, even here, you can’t use the N-word, even on the “free speech is constitutionally protected” Turley blog.
Turley has been unusually quiet about Trump’s ongoing fiascos over the past two weeks. This includes ignoring Elon Musk’s control over government funds and payment systems. An unelected, unconfirmed individual, who is an African immigrant, is making decisions that fall under the authority of Congress.
He is suing companies because they allegedly “colluded” to boycott X, which is their right to exercise free speech by choosing not to spend money on his platform. Turley has remained silent about this as well.
Additionally, Trump is being outmaneuvered by Mexico and Canada regarding his threats of tariffs. Mexico’s president announced that they would deploy 10,000 troops to the border to help stop immigration, a strategy they employed during Biden’s administration without any threats of tariffs. Canada also announced measures to reinforce their border, which was previously planned back in December.
Trump’s empty threats have led to significant market shocks, costing investors a lot of money. It’s becoming increasingly clear that Trump doesn’t know what he’s doing.
So how is all this supposed to lower the cost of groceries and inflation? That’s what Trump promised to do.
Plus, he’s alredy releasing immigrants back into the public because there isn’t room to hold them, big surprise. These fiascos will continue to get worse and worse. The worst disaster involving aircraft has occurred under Trump’s watch after forcing the resignation of key FAA officials and blaming DEI….wow.
Then there’s FEMA, Trump wants to get rid of it because…he has no idea how it works. Getting rid of FEMA will harm Red states a lot more and they will not be able to handle disasters on their own. Good luck with that.
Then there’s this little gem that got a bit of attention. Trump, because he’s an idiot, ordered the release of bilions of gallons of water from two California reservoirs to ‘help with the fires’. Problem is none of that water will reach the southern part of the state. He esseentially squandered water they will need in the summer if drought hits AND caused farmers downstream to deal with flooded fields. Let’s take a moment to remember that Trump ran 6 companies into bankruptcy. Looks like America is next.
Your first sentence is relevant. The rest has nothing to do with the post. Is it that hard to stay on point?
George is our resident Ed Buck
“ LOS ANGELES – Edward Buck, a businessman and long-time figure of West Hollywood politics, was sentenced today to 360 months in federal prison for providing fatal doses of methamphetamine to two men who died at his apartment after he injected them with the drug.
Buck, 67, was sentenced by United States District Judge Christina A. Snyder. A restitution hearing in this case is scheduled for May 16.
At the conclusion of a nine-day trial in July 2021, a federal jury found Buck guilty of two counts of distribution of methamphetamine resulting in death, four counts of distribution of methamphetamine, one count of maintaining a drug-involved premises, and two counts of enticement to travel in interstate commerce for prostitution.”
https://www.justice.gov/usao-cdca/pr/ed-buck-sentenced-30-years-federal-prison-providing-methamphetamine-two-victims-who
George cannot himself. What a mess of a comment.
Huh? George cannot himself? what a nonsensical comment.
Numbskull.
Nobody stays focused on the main point. The discussions often drift to off-topic issues every day. Have you noticed that?
Turley has been notably quiet about the chaos and failures that are happening now with Trump’s presidency, despite being quick to highlight alleged problems when Biden was in office.
It seems Turley suffers from the same issue that many Republicans do when it comes to Trump: they are hesitant to criticize and denounce the clear violations of law and the Constitution because they are afraid of the retribution that comes with it.
There is some pretty absurd stuff happening out there, while Turley seems “preoccupied” with mundane issues related to colleges and free speech and do not involve criticizing the President. I accurately anticipated he would make excuses and avoid direct criticism of Trump and his administration. Fox News has been struggling to defend Trump’s irrational decisions and resulting failures, and this is only week two.
As Trump’s second term fumbles on, Turley can no longer just blame Democrats for the issues arising from Trump 2.0. This shift is why you’re noticing unusual topics related to colleges and sporadic references to a Trump policy he has “polished” for his MAGA audience.
More nonsense from george.
Take the meds, Jungle George. Come back in 4 months, once they kick in, and re-evaluate the situation and your statement. Undoubtedly, your bias will still be there but the frivolity of your simpleton approach will be evident.
Turley has been unusually quiet about Trump’s ongoing fiascos over the past two weeks.
You could not be more irrelevant. For at least 8 years, this blog has given you a platform to persuade readers to your point of view. And for 8 years, you’ve managed to prove why the Democratic party should be rejected en masse. Not even another name change would help you hide who you are. And that actually is a good thing. Your presence is a daily reminder of the evil this country faces. Thanks for being you, Mr. Irrelevant.
Olly, it’s also a free speech blog where everyone including you have been posting nonsense. It’s perfectly fine. It also keeps this site from becoming a stale echo chamber. Turley supports diversity of opinion, right?
I don’t hide who I am unlike the anonymous posters who spew obscenities and personal attacks because they cannot articulate a cogent defense or a rebuttal.
Ignorance is not a virtue. What call “evil” is merely your lack of understanding due to ignorance.
I only point out the obvious regarding Turley and criticize his views because he’s fair game once he makes his views known. All part of his cherised free speech principles. There are far more serious free speech issues that beg to be discussed by Turley, but the problem is it comes from Trump and his administration or Elon Musk who Turley defends often. Like many Republicans, Turley is afraid to directly criticize Trump. I’ve seen how fast his MAGA readers turn on him. The cultish behavior rears its ugly head the moment there is a hint of criticism on Trump.
OLLY,
Well said. That is why I just scroll past. Not worth the time to read. And, irrelevant is right.
George……take two qualudes, and call me in the morning!
LOL a Trump, Turley, and liberty hater
Speech Police, Offensive language to some? Free Speech and if you don’t like it Tuff Luck. too many sensitive people. OSU and all Universities, Gov’ts should clean house of all the DEI, Touchy Feely Woke Left Wing policies and staff. Grow Up.
Hmm, maybe Ohio State should not fire Ryan Day but instead clean house in the HR departments/DEI offices all across campus. Could maybe save enough money to pay some of those NIL deals.
Go Bucks
Go Krogering!
You wouldn’t get that reference unless you remember the Earl Bruce years!
-G
“Sticks and stones may break my bones but words are violence, you racist fascist.”
To someone learning English, can it be explained to them what the “n-word” means without actually uttering the term that rhymes with “bigger?” If not, will the next step be the woke purging of all such rhyming terms? Must an increased size differential have to be described only as “larger” and the firing mechanism on a gun described as the “weapon actuator?” Where does this linguistic lunacy end?
“can it be explained to them what the “n-word” means without actually uttering the term that rhymes with “bigger?””
Hopefully, any exploration of the word that rhymes, whether for students learning English ,or those already fluent in it, would explain that the word is a corruption of the word “negro”, which is itself the Spanish language word for the color black. The negative connotations for the word are contingent on a societal attitude of prejudice against persons that is solely based on black (or black-ish) skin color, and/or the ancestry that produced that attribute. That attitude in our society may not have not been entirely eliminated, but imo has diminished to the point that it only marginally exists at all. I note that many organizations and movements that advocate for and are run by African-Americans use the word “black” in their identification. I also note that it is fairly common for African-Americans to use the rhyming word in conversations (mainly, but not exclusively, with other African-Americans) as a neutral general slang reference for themselves. That is a very wordy way of questioning whether or not use of the word should continue to be considered such an important issue.
Like I said earlier, the word has negative connotations, but also positive connotations and descriptive connotations. If white people say it, it’s bad and if black people say it to each other, it’s no big deal. And, finally, it is a word that describes a particular kind of black person (a feral sociopath according to Taleeb Starkes), the same way that “white trash” describes a certain class of white person.
When you see a video of black people looting a store, or doing one of those group grabs at a Neiman Marcus, which would be a better word to describe them:
a) black people
b) the N word
I think the N word is better, because it narrows down the perps to a subset of blacks, as opposed to limning the whole race in America.
I agree that it is a rude term, and I was taught as a child to never call a black person by that word, because it was rude, and it would hurt their feelings – and because they couldn’t help what color they were, and that God loved them just as much as he loved white people.
I think you call that censorship.
What’s the over/under on when enigma makes his first showing in this comment section? On other topics, he’s typically slow to engage, if at all.
What’s with him? Every time I see one of his comments, he seems to be whining about white people this, white people that, like it is still the Jim Crow era or something. He reminds me of those inmates who serve their term, and get out of prison. Then, they commit another crime so that they can go back to prison, because they can’t handle freedom, responsibility and being their own person. They need the structure of somebody taking care of them, and not having to make decisions.
So flyod, you’ve been in prision? Your analogy is stupid at best. You watch to many silly movies.
Hello Floyd, I can’t think of an instance where I complain about white people, perhaps you could provide an example? I talk about individuals and their actions, policies that may disproportionately benefit white people (or harm minorities). I talk about a whole range of topics not involving race at all but whining about white people is what you need to believe I do in order to dismiss what I’ve said.
You said, “I talk about individuals and their actions, policies that may disproportionately benefit white people”
Uh, er, ummm, ain’t that kinda what I said?
No, it isn’t what you said. Reading with comprehension isn’t one of your spiritual gifts.
Are you certain that he isn’t George/Gigi/Dennis Mc/Wally/Oliver Reed (et al) faking pigmentation?
Hello Olly, I didn’t realize I was missed. I engage on topics that interest me or when I find the premise so ridiculous something needs to be said. There used to be people here that I might disagree with but still have an interesting conversation. Those includes Paul Shulte, and mespo who is still around but not as much. I could even enjoy a conversation with old George who did have a better handle on some historical facts than many of you.
As far as this topic. Context is everything and there is a time and place including potentially a college classroom where the full word is appropriate. I don’t use it myself often but in a recent story I wrote, I used it spelled out a number of times.
I suppose the other reason I’m slow to engage is the poor quality of trolls I’ve acquired. John Say is just exhausting, if I write a paragraph he may respond with twenty. Old Airborne Dog must cut and paste the same lengthy response no matter what the topic. If the topic and my response have nothing to do with race, the comments to me invariably do include racial comments. If I ask a serious question, all I get is deflection so why bother?
https://williamspivey.substack.com/p/four-ways-to-call-someone-a-nigger
Perhaps you need to up the quality of your comments, and be less predictable? Time marches on. I am 71 years old now, and things have changed a lot, and not for the better. Back when Affirmative Action first came out, I thought it was wrong, as a matter of principle, but I could also see where we probably should hire more blacks when possible. Because there was a history of unfairness. But how long should those programs go on? Ten years? Twenty years, max maybe? But crap, now it has been going on 60 frigging years. Enough is enough, already.
But you know, I could have been persuaded to go on beyond twenty years, if there had been some obvious improvement happening in the background. But there wasn’t. In fact, things have been getting worse in the black “community.” Unwed births are now in the 80% range. Black crime has destroyed inner cities and whole cities, in some cases. Black culture has become toxic and dysfunctional and degenerate and stupid. A stupid little mugger, Trayvon Martin, got what was coming to him as he was pounding a man’s head into a concrete sidewalk. Guess what? Trayvon became a hero. Schools and roads got named after him. And, Michael Brown. And, George Floyd. And, what’s-his-name in Baltimore who got bounced around the back of the paddy wagon. And, that black chick in Kentucky(?) who was shacking up with a drug dealer, and had a dead body in her trunk, and got shot by the police.
And, welfare. Know what? I couldn’t care less how many single black mothers got financial aid, welfare, food stamps, whatever – IF, If they actually did a good job of raising their kids, and making sure they got good grades. You could see some light at the end of the tunnel, if that was happening. But, it ain’t happening. After 60 years of affirmative action, it morphs into DEI. There is no end in sight, and frankly, I think more and more white people are getting to the Scott Adams Level, where they are – to hell with black people – just stay away from them.
That is sad. Understandable, but sad. The only bright spot I see in race relations, is the fact that more and more black people are getting sick of the mess, too – and they have started youtube channels. Some are conservative, and some are not. But there seems to be more and more of them, and they are saying the same things that I am. Or maybe, I am saying the same things that they are. That black culture has to change.
I wish that you could get on board with that.
Friend of Enigmainpratt? Seems to fit the profile
Florida Democratic Party official arrested on child pornography charges
ORLANDO (TNND) — The U.S Attorney’s Office for the Middle District of Florida filed child sex abuse charges earlier this month against Orange County, Florida Democratic Party official Matthew Inman.
Inman, 39, serves as Orange County Democratic Party treasurer. He is accused of receiving and saving multiple videos of “child sexual abuse material,” according to prosecutors. The videos allegedly depicted adults sexually abusing young children.
https://khqa.com/news/nation-world/florida-democratic-party-official-arrested-on-child-pornography-charges-orange-county-florida-democratic-party-treasurer-matthew-inman
You’ve revealed so much about yourself in just a few paragraphs. Please continue.
I said what I had to say to you. I hope you think about it.
Your comments were quite clear and revealing.
Floyd’s comments were revealing. He believes in color blindness and you believe in the blind promotion of color.
The really sad thing is that such a “very strong opinion supporting both free speech and academic freedom” was even necessary for a Court to deliver. It should have been obvious from the start.
Time to kick all these snowflakes out of school.
Its not just a simple, you can’t say that here, argument. It’s ideological. The case is about about neutralizing leftist ideology in universities. One step at a time.
OMG, somebody said the N word, which is only about the most common term of endearment in the black community.
What a bunch of silly crap!
More stupid from flyod.
You just don’t get it do you?
You lack a modicum of intelligence.
@Anonymous
That’s the issue: Floyd makes salient points; it all falls apart when he reveals those points only apply, in his mind, to white people. 🤷🏻♂️ Impossible to take seriously, just like you.